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- 0:24Speaker 2: M and A Media m and A pending big, big
- 0:27Speaker 2: deal Warner Brothers Discovery. It's in discussions and accepted bids
- 0:31Speaker 2: from Paramount, sky Dance, from Netflix, maybe even Comcast. Now,
- 0:37Speaker 2: I guess we wait and see what happens. But this
- 0:39Speaker 2: is when this deal crosses a tape, it's going to
- 0:40Speaker 2: be a big deal. It's gonna have enterprise value of
- 0:43Speaker 2: north of ninety billion.
- 0:45Speaker 3: I can't wait for them to make a limited TV
- 0:46Speaker 3: series about this parting process.
- 0:48Speaker 4: Yes, it's gonna be great.
- 0:49Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly right, coming to Netflix on soon. Keitha rang
- 0:53Speaker 2: Andathen She covers the media space for Bloomberg Intelligence as
- 0:56Speaker 2: the media analyst there Ethan. What's the latest on Warner
- 1:00Speaker 2: Brothers Discovery. I guess the question now is that BIS
- 1:02Speaker 2: has been accepted. What are next steps? Yeah?
- 1:06Speaker 5: Next steps, Paul is that these were just first round bids.
- 1:10Speaker 5: They're non binding bids. You know, as far as the
- 1:12Speaker 5: news reports go, it looks like all three companies that
- 1:16Speaker 5: were in the race, Paramount skuy Dance for all of
- 1:19Speaker 5: Warner Brothers, and then Netflix and Comcast for just the
- 1:22Speaker 5: studio and streaming assets, have all placed their bids. This
- 1:25Speaker 5: is going to be a very long drawn process, so
- 1:27Speaker 5: we're going to have multiple rounds.
- 1:30Speaker 6: You know.
- 1:30Speaker 5: We've had some conflicting reports actually on what Paramount sky
- 1:34Speaker 5: Dance was offering. There was something earlier this week but
- 1:36Speaker 5: suggested they were offering something north of twenty eight dollars
- 1:40Speaker 5: per share. They came out refuted that report, and the
- 1:44Speaker 5: latest reports seemed to suggest that it might be it's
- 1:48Speaker 5: definitely going to be something much lower than that, probably
- 1:51Speaker 5: something above twenty five, but still below twenty seven. But
- 1:54Speaker 5: let's remember David Zaslav has publicly said that he wants
- 1:59Speaker 5: something north of thirty dollars per share, So this is
- 2:02Speaker 5: going to play out for quite a while.
- 2:04Speaker 3: I think, yeah, that is a pretty big gap between
- 2:07Speaker 3: what David Zaslov wants and what the reporting indicates Paramounts
- 2:10Speaker 3: Guidance is likely to pay. So if this is going
- 2:12Speaker 3: to be a long drawn out process, does that benefit
- 2:16Speaker 3: Warner Brothers Discovery or these bidders, who comes out ahead
- 2:18Speaker 3: in that kind of scenario.
- 2:21Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, the long drawn out processes is really
- 2:23Speaker 5: not good, I think for for Warner Brothers Discovery. But
- 2:27Speaker 5: having said that, let's remember that they do have another
- 2:30Speaker 5: plan B in place, and the Plan B is that
- 2:33Speaker 5: they are going to go ahead and split their company
- 2:37Speaker 5: into two parts, so you have the TV Networks business
- 2:39Speaker 5: and the streaming and studio business. And the good news
- 2:42Speaker 5: for them is that the studio turnaround, which was you know,
- 2:45Speaker 5: kind of in progress, is now really kind of taking shape.
- 2:48Speaker 5: We're seeing some really tangible, you know, growth come out
- 2:52Speaker 5: of both streaming as well as studio. And so worst
- 2:55Speaker 5: comes to worst if nothing you know, materializes from all
- 2:58Speaker 5: of these bids and from all of this same chatter
- 3:00Speaker 5: and buzz, they are still on track to separate their businesses,
- 3:04Speaker 5: and who knows, maybe that would be the better path
- 3:06Speaker 5: for them going forward. So all is not lost even
- 3:09Speaker 5: if you know these bids don't work out.
- 3:12Speaker 2: KEITHA, I know you've done the work. What do you
- 3:13Speaker 2: think the entire company is worth?
- 3:17Speaker 5: So, Paul, you know, it all again depends here on
- 3:20Speaker 5: who's making the bid for what parts of the business
- 3:22Speaker 5: they're making. But so as we kind of look at
- 3:23Speaker 5: it right now, I don't think David Zaslav is far
- 3:27Speaker 5: off when he says he wants thirty dollars per share
- 3:30Speaker 5: for all of the company. We think majority of that
- 3:33Speaker 5: value will actually rest with the studio and streaming network.
- 3:37Speaker 5: So we when we kind of crunch the numbers, we
- 3:40Speaker 5: get twenty five to twenty eight dollars just for the
- 3:42Speaker 5: studio and the streaming business. But at the end of
- 3:45Speaker 5: the day, Paul, it all comes down to synergy. So
- 3:47Speaker 5: if you look at you know, combining the entire corporation,
- 3:51Speaker 5: all of Warner Brothers Discovery with all of Paramount for instance,
- 3:54Speaker 5: and they both have you know, substantial linear network exposure,
- 3:58Speaker 5: they both have studios, they both have streaming assets. You know,
- 4:01Speaker 5: we're looking like something like at about four or five
- 4:03Speaker 5: billion dollars in synergies, which you know, then then adds
- 4:07Speaker 5: to the deal value.
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- 4:31Speaker 3: A column that I read this week really resonated because
- 4:33Speaker 3: it hits upon three key themes that we're seeing across
- 4:36Speaker 3: the markets. Retail earnings, tech forward companies, and people worried
- 4:41Speaker 3: about losing their jobs in this AI era. Beth cow
- 4:45Speaker 3: It is a Bloomberg opinion columnist, and she's written a
- 4:47Speaker 3: story about Walmart and it's masterclass and reputation rehab. But
- 4:50Speaker 3: it really rests on this idea that Walmart invested in
- 4:53Speaker 3: its workforce and its treatment of workers at a time
- 4:56Speaker 3: when it was being criticized for not treating its workers well,
- 4:59Speaker 3: and this is paid off in many ways. Beth joins
- 5:01Speaker 3: us now in our bloom Work Interactive Brokers studio. So Beth,
- 5:04Speaker 3: just take us back a couple of years to when
- 5:06Speaker 3: Walmart decided that it was going to spend on its workforce.
- 5:09Speaker 3: It was going to invest money into the workforce, and
- 5:11Speaker 3: investors did not like hearing that.
- 5:13Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, it's hard to think about this now,
- 5:15Speaker 8: but a decade ago, Walmart was one of the most
- 5:18Speaker 8: reviled companies in America. Right it was being criticized for
- 5:21Speaker 8: paying its employees low wages. For wiping out mom and
- 5:25Speaker 8: pop retailers for basically creating a culture of disposable consumerism.
- 5:31Speaker 8: So it really was getting hit from a lot of
- 5:32Speaker 8: different angles. And rather than just ignore the bad press
- 5:37Speaker 8: or army, you know, hire an army of pr people,
- 5:39Speaker 8: it decided to do something about it. And Doug McMillan decided,
- 5:42Speaker 8: we're going to invest in our people and two point
- 5:45Speaker 8: seven billion dollars over a couple of years, and we
- 5:47Speaker 8: now know this really paid off.
- 5:50Speaker 2: So I mean, for Doug McMillan, I mean to me,
- 5:53Speaker 2: after reading your article, this could be one of his
- 5:55Speaker 2: as he's stepping down, could be one of his lasting
- 5:58Speaker 2: legacies at the company.
- 5:59Speaker 4: I really think so.
- 5:59Speaker 8: I think I think that you know, he's been at
- 6:01Speaker 8: the company now more than a decade. I think this
- 6:03Speaker 8: will be amongst the most enduring things that he has done.
- 6:07Speaker 8: I think this. I'm not sure that the company would
- 6:10Speaker 8: be in the place it's at today if he had
- 6:12Speaker 8: not really addressed this.
- 6:13Speaker 3: And let's be clear about what exactly he did with
- 6:16Speaker 3: that two point seven sharing dollars. Pay increases, there is
- 6:19Speaker 3: training and really just attracting a better quality worker.
- 6:24Speaker 8: Yeah, and the way he did this was right. It
- 6:26Speaker 8: was pay increases, but more than anything else, it was
- 6:29Speaker 8: creating not low paying jobs, but a career.
- 6:32Speaker 6: Right.
- 6:33Speaker 4: There was now a path.
- 6:34Speaker 8: For people who started at Walmart to move up the ranks,
- 6:37Speaker 8: and that was really important, right to attracting more ambitious employees,
- 6:42Speaker 8: to getting them to stay, and I think that that
- 6:45Speaker 8: shifted the whole culture of the company.
- 6:48Speaker 2: So what's the company saying about AI? Because there's a
- 6:52Speaker 2: lot of answer just in the overall economy about what
- 6:55Speaker 2: the impact AI will have upon jobs. One could look
- 6:58Speaker 2: at big box stores as industry that might be at
- 7:01Speaker 2: risk because.
- 7:01Speaker 7: They do employ so many people.
- 7:03Speaker 2: What does Walmart say.
- 7:04Speaker 8: Walmart's taken a very different approach, I think than some
- 7:06Speaker 8: other big employers, and it has embraced a EYE. Let's
- 7:10Speaker 8: be clear, Like there's a AI is throughout embedded throughout
- 7:13Speaker 8: the company, but it has not used a EE to
- 7:16Speaker 8: have some of these mass layoffs that were justify some
- 7:19Speaker 8: of these mass layoffs that we've seen at other companies.
- 7:21Speaker 8: And I think part of that is this history, like
- 7:24Speaker 8: it knows how important these entry level workers are and
- 7:29Speaker 8: that they need a path, they need this workforce to
- 7:32Speaker 8: sort of grow the company. So it said AI will
- 7:36Speaker 8: change every job. It knows that, but it is trying
- 7:40Speaker 8: to get every worker through to the other side, so
- 7:44Speaker 8: whether that's retraining, finding new rules, rules for them. So
- 7:47Speaker 8: it's just a very different outlook, I think than what
- 7:50Speaker 8: we're hearing from others.
- 7:51Speaker 3: And you've noted as well that the last ten years
- 7:53Speaker 3: at Walmart has led to tremendous return for shareholders, but
- 7:57Speaker 3: also it's become a case study at heart Heard Business
- 8:00Speaker 3: school on how to on how an experiment on paying
- 8:05Speaker 3: your workers war or investing your workers can pay off.
- 8:07Speaker 4: Absolutely.
- 8:08Speaker 8: I mean we you mentioned this at the beginning, but
- 8:10Speaker 8: Wall Street hated this plan. I mean the company lost
- 8:14Speaker 8: tremendous value, about that much tremendous value when they announced it,
- 8:18Speaker 8: and now you know, we have the receipts a decade later,
- 8:21Speaker 8: and the I think the market gap has tripled. The
- 8:24Speaker 8: stock has returned more than four hundred percent. So they
- 8:28Speaker 8: really took a gamble on this and stuck with it,
- 8:30Speaker 8: and it really has it has paid off for them.
- 8:33Speaker 2: I mean, every time I look at the dees screen
- 8:36Speaker 2: on the Bloomberg terminal for Walmart, had just blown away
- 8:38Speaker 2: by the fact that they have two point one million employees.
- 8:42Speaker 2: What's the retention of those employees. I'm wondering if there's
- 8:46Speaker 2: like I would think in the warehouses it might be
- 8:48Speaker 2: really really high.
- 8:48Speaker 7: I'm not sure about the stores. How is retention sure?
- 8:50Speaker 8: So they've actually increased retention by ten percent since twenty
- 8:53Speaker 8: fifteen they when they started this plan. And another thing
- 8:57Speaker 8: is that they've some of the more management len roles.
- 9:01Speaker 8: Seventy five percent of those are hired from with it.
- 9:05Speaker 8: So this pipeline is really critical for them. And so
- 9:08Speaker 8: that's why I think that they are so focused on
- 9:10Speaker 8: creating a place where people stay.
- 9:13Speaker 4: That's key.
- 9:14Speaker 3: And you only have to look at the outgoing CEO
- 9:16Speaker 3: and the NTO, right, Both Doug McMillan and John Ferner,
- 9:19Speaker 3: the successor, are Walmart lifers. They started off as hourly
- 9:23Speaker 3: workers there.
- 9:24Speaker 8: Right, They know the importance of that and having worked
- 9:26Speaker 8: their way up, that needs to be something that continues.
- 9:28Speaker 2: There is this something that you think the new CEO
- 9:31Speaker 2: is as committed to as the prior CEO.
- 9:34Speaker 8: I would think so because he has the same background.
- 9:36Speaker 8: I mean, I think he knows the importance of emerging technologies.
- 9:40Speaker 8: He's really focused on that. But I think because of
- 9:43Speaker 8: his history and he's worked very closely with McMillan for
- 9:47Speaker 8: a long time, so they must be aligned on this.
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- 10:13Speaker 2: Jody Lori joints us here in our Bloomberg Interactive Broker
- 10:16Speaker 2: studio in the Big Town.
- 10:17Speaker 7: How about that, Jody.
- 10:19Speaker 4: We love your coverage.
- 10:20Speaker 2: You covered from the credit perspective, all the fun industries
- 10:25Speaker 2: like hotels, like cruise ships and all that kind of stuff.
- 10:27Speaker 2: I know, you guys put out a survey talking about
- 10:30Speaker 2: how people are spending their vacation money.
- 10:33Speaker 7: What'd you learn?
- 10:34Speaker 9: So we do the survey every half a year, and
- 10:37Speaker 9: so we just got the results out for the most
- 10:39Speaker 9: recent one that we ran last week. And what's interesting
- 10:43Speaker 9: is that we're seeing more people planning on keeping their
- 10:46Speaker 9: budgets the same.
- 10:47Speaker 4: But what's more interesting is.
- 10:49Speaker 9: That if costs succeed, budgets fewer people than last year.
- 10:53Speaker 4: So they'd increase their budget.
- 10:55Speaker 9: And that's on the back of them knowing that inflation
- 10:58Speaker 9: is a much higher risk for them for their portfolio.
- 11:01Speaker 3: So in other words, people are making room for time off,
- 11:04Speaker 3: but they're going to have to scrimp more in order
- 11:07Speaker 3: to make it happen because their money is not going
- 11:11Speaker 3: to take them as far as it used to correct.
- 11:13Speaker 4: And Scarlett, I mean, I think to piggyback on that.
- 11:16Speaker 9: If you look the eating out, anticipation of spending is
- 11:21Speaker 9: higher this year than last year, and I think that's
- 11:23Speaker 9: lesser reflection of people wanting to eat out, but more
- 11:26Speaker 9: that they're expecting eating out is going to be more expensive.
- 11:29Speaker 9: And so even though we're seeing people want to spend
- 11:32Speaker 9: on paid activities and experiences, which could bode well for
- 11:35Speaker 9: the cruise lines and the theme parks, at the end
- 11:39Speaker 9: of the day, when cost succeed budgets, more people this
- 11:42Speaker 9: year over last year are planning on cutting and looking
- 11:45Speaker 9: at free options. So going to the free museums, going
- 11:48Speaker 9: to low cost.
- 11:49Speaker 3: Options, well, now that the government is open DC is
- 11:51Speaker 3: an option once again. How about in terms of destination,
- 11:55Speaker 3: maybe staying closer to home, maybe not going quite as
- 11:58Speaker 3: far internationally, Yes.
- 12:00Speaker 9: And staying closer to home is very very much key
- 12:04Speaker 9: if we see the data, the international trend is to Canada.
- 12:09Speaker 9: Canada bumped up to the second spot. So we saw
- 12:12Speaker 9: that in the midyear, and it was pretty curious for US,
- 12:15Speaker 9: particularly because when you look at it the opposite way,
- 12:18Speaker 9: and we did this announced a few months ago. Canada
- 12:21Speaker 9: is not coming to the US. They don't want to
- 12:22Speaker 9: come to the US. It's too expensive for them, they
- 12:25Speaker 9: don't really like the current government situation, and on top
- 12:28Speaker 9: of it, I think they're scared about crossing the border
- 12:31Speaker 9: and what it means for immigration. So we're seeing Canadians
- 12:35Speaker 9: not come to the US, and we're seeing a lot
- 12:36Speaker 9: of companies comment on that.
- 12:38Speaker 4: But we are seeing a lot of Americans go to Canada.
- 12:40Speaker 9: And I am curious how much and this is going
- 12:42Speaker 9: to come in further reports. How much of the Canada
- 12:46Speaker 9: move is a reflection of the World Cup next year.
- 12:49Speaker 9: There's a lot of people going to Vancouver, for instance,
- 12:51Speaker 9: for the World Cup. I'll actually be there during the
- 12:52Speaker 9: World Cup, but not going to the World Cup.
- 12:55Speaker 7: Why we.
- 12:58Speaker 9: Might be doing a very family friendly cruise to Alaska.
- 13:01Speaker 2: Nice.
- 13:02Speaker 4: It just works out that that's the same time as
- 13:05Speaker 4: it was bad timing.
- 13:06Speaker 2: It's bad time, all right, talk to me. This is
- 13:09Speaker 2: when I go to Aruba, we go to an all inclusive.
- 13:13Speaker 2: How come I didn't know about this all inclusive thing
- 13:15Speaker 2: when I had four little kids.
- 13:17Speaker 3: I mean, were they were they a thing back then?
- 13:19Speaker 2: I don't know, but I mean I would get the
- 13:21Speaker 2: bill which would be five inches thick with like smoothies
- 13:24Speaker 2: and chicken fingers and all that kind of crap that
- 13:26Speaker 2: they'd eat throughout.
- 13:27Speaker 7: The day four kids.
- 13:28Speaker 2: Man if if I knew about the all inclusive, that
- 13:30Speaker 2: would have been a savior for me. What are people
- 13:33Speaker 2: doing when they are they willing to still pay it
- 13:35Speaker 2: for travel? Because I still here people going to Europe
- 13:39Speaker 2: and stuff like that. I mean, they're not going to Poughkeepsie,
- 13:41Speaker 2: They're going to Parish and things.
- 13:43Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean Japan is certainly a popular destination. Strong
- 13:46Speaker 9: dollar there, yeah, very much increased.
- 13:49Speaker 4: Italy has increased.
- 13:50Speaker 9: We're seeing among the upper income level, you know, Portugal
- 13:53Speaker 9: and Spain as popular destinations. And I think probably what's
- 13:57Speaker 9: even more interesting is onboard spending for cruises is still
- 14:00Speaker 9: continuing to have momentum.
- 14:02Speaker 4: At the moment, I.
- 14:03Speaker 9: Think where we're watching is when that onboard spending shifts
- 14:07Speaker 9: and then the cruise lines, for example, don't get that.
- 14:09Speaker 4: Gravy for cash flow.
- 14:11Speaker 9: And to your point, Paul, I mean, even though you
- 14:14Speaker 9: have something called all inclusives, even though you have the
- 14:16Speaker 9: cruise lines, that they all are considered these package deal
- 14:19Speaker 9: what every company is doing, and we're talking the rental
- 14:22Speaker 9: car companies. You know, Avius is doing this too, obviously,
- 14:25Speaker 9: the airlines is they're all.
- 14:26Speaker 4: Doing these premium products.
- 14:28Speaker 9: These you know, you do different tiers of products, so
- 14:30Speaker 9: the add on so you can get the base level,
- 14:32Speaker 9: which is really the skeleton package. But anyone from cruise
- 14:36Speaker 9: lines to you know, theme parks, to some extent, to
- 14:40Speaker 9: the all inclusives, to the airlines, to the rental car
- 14:42Speaker 9: companies are all segmenting to give you know, the lower
- 14:45Speaker 9: income consumer the ability to say that they traveled and
- 14:47Speaker 9: the higher income consumer the ability to travel luxury. And
- 14:51Speaker 9: in terms of the add ons, what are these add
- 14:53Speaker 9: ons are they? You know, things that they used to
- 14:56Speaker 9: offer for free and now charge.
- 14:58Speaker 4: You for for some of it.
- 14:59Speaker 9: It is so you know, a good example I have
- 15:02Speaker 9: is anecdotally, I know that some of the cruise lines
- 15:04Speaker 9: that used to not charge to get people into the
- 15:07Speaker 9: center of a city, say in Europe, you're on a
- 15:09Speaker 9: European cruise.
- 15:10Speaker 4: They used to give that for free.
- 15:12Speaker 9: Now they say no, you have to be a part
- 15:13Speaker 9: of one of our you know, expeditions, one of one
- 15:16Speaker 9: of our excursions in order to get that for free.
- 15:19Speaker 9: Otherwise we charge you twenty dollars to get into the
- 15:21Speaker 9: Senate's colwn in you know, Czechoslovakia and not Checklisvokia, check Republic.
- 15:26Speaker 7: Stay with us. More from Bloomberg Intelligence coming up after this.
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- 15:47Speaker 2: Obviously, the theme this week, one of the things has
- 15:49Speaker 2: been Nvidian It's strong earnings. AI fight has been really
- 15:54Speaker 2: a driving theme for this overall market for going on
- 15:57Speaker 2: three years now, and Investor has been looking for your
- 16:00Speaker 2: privative ways to play that theme, and one of that
- 16:02Speaker 2: has been how do you get tompower all these data
- 16:05Speaker 2: centers out there? And that leads you to utilities, and
- 16:07Speaker 2: that leads you to our next guest, Calvin Butler, CEO
- 16:10Speaker 2: of exelon it is a publicly traded company. EXC is
- 16:14Speaker 2: the ticker of the stocks up about one percent today,
- 16:16Speaker 2: up about twenty two percent year to date, so certainly
- 16:19Speaker 2: performing well with the other utility stocks. Calvin, thank you
- 16:22Speaker 2: so much for joining us here. Again, when I look
- 16:26Speaker 2: at your industry, you guys are critical to the rollout
- 16:29Speaker 2: of AI because we've got to power this stuff, these
- 16:32Speaker 2: data centers.
- 16:33Speaker 7: How do you guys view it?
- 16:35Speaker 6: Yeah, Paul, thank you for having me and exactly how
- 16:38Speaker 6: you said it. We're critical to the development of AI
- 16:44Speaker 6: data centers and large load quantum and we take that
- 16:48Speaker 6: responsibility very serious. And from a standpoint of building that infrastructure,
- 16:54Speaker 6: protecting that grid, it's going to be the backbone of
- 16:57Speaker 6: all this. We always say that the energy in sector
- 17:00Speaker 6: there is five percent of the GDP, but we power
- 17:02Speaker 6: the next ninety five and we take that very seriously.
- 17:06Speaker 4: You take it seriously.
- 17:07Speaker 3: So walk us through some of the plans you're making,
- 17:09Speaker 3: how you're preparing for this transition, for this increase in demand.
- 17:15Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you, Scarlett. What we have done, We've done
- 17:18Speaker 6: a few things. Is one understanding for your listeners, excellent.
- 17:23Speaker 6: We are truly a transmission and distribution company, you know,
- 17:27Speaker 6: proud to have six utilities operating the electric gas side
- 17:31Speaker 6: through the pipes and wires. So having said that, being
- 17:34Speaker 6: the backbone of that, we're encouraging those data centers and
- 17:38Speaker 6: large developers to come into the states in which we operate,
- 17:41Speaker 6: and we put together a comprehensive plan to get them online,
- 17:45Speaker 6: up and running sooner rather than later. Speed is everything
- 17:49Speaker 6: for them, and so what it takes is a coordinated effort,
- 17:54Speaker 6: and we've worked very hard to move upstream to get
- 17:58Speaker 6: them online so they can do what they do, which
- 18:00Speaker 6: is on the technology side. Now, as we do that,
- 18:04Speaker 6: we have to keep in mind first and foremost the
- 18:07Speaker 6: affordability factor for all of our communities, and that's where
- 18:10Speaker 6: we're working with them to identify sites that are more
- 18:15Speaker 6: ready to put their equipment and their technology in place.
- 18:19Speaker 2: We had a couple of governor races recently in New
- 18:23Speaker 2: Jersey and in Virginia, and affordability was one of the
- 18:26Speaker 2: big issues. And in New Jersey the governor elect who
- 18:29Speaker 2: actually won, one of her number one issues was bringing
- 18:32Speaker 2: down electric utility bills. So this is an issue we
- 18:36Speaker 2: got to fund, We got to I guess create and
- 18:39Speaker 2: develop these data centers, but we got to do it
- 18:41Speaker 2: in a way that it doesn't cause.
- 18:43Speaker 7: Everybody's power bills to go up.
- 18:45Speaker 2: How do you think about that transition.
- 18:48Speaker 6: Paul, You're absolutely right. It was a race in both
- 18:51Speaker 6: New Jersey and Virginia, an issue, and we believe it's
- 18:56Speaker 6: going to be an issue in the twenty twenty six
- 18:58Speaker 6: elections because of affordability. Pocketbook issues are going to be key.
- 19:02Speaker 6: So let me tell you what we're doing from excellent perspective.
- 19:06Speaker 6: We are protecting our residential customers. You know, we serve
- 19:09Speaker 6: almost eleven million customers. So as as important as it
- 19:12Speaker 6: is for data center development, it's more important for me
- 19:15Speaker 6: to protect the other customers in this process. So we've
- 19:19Speaker 6: come up with what we consider a rather innovative solution
- 19:22Speaker 6: in creating a tear up a transmission security agreement. So
- 19:26Speaker 6: what that does is we require a letter of credit
- 19:30Speaker 6: or a cash deposit from these large developers speculating are
- 19:35Speaker 6: identifying what thir ten year revenue projections or cost projections
- 19:39Speaker 6: coming back to our utility is, and anytime that they
- 19:43Speaker 6: do not meet eighty percent of that load projections or
- 19:47Speaker 6: cash projections, we draw down from that deposit. And what
- 19:51Speaker 6: it does it protects the other customers on the systems
- 19:55Speaker 6: for the investments that we're making. So we're being very
- 19:58Speaker 6: intentional about protecting the other users on the system because
- 20:02Speaker 6: when it's done right, it should reduce the cost for everyone.
- 20:07Speaker 6: But when it's done haphazardly or piecemeal, it can have
- 20:11Speaker 6: ramifications that everyone else has impacted. But what you're seeing
- 20:16Speaker 6: not just from the capital investment. You're seeing the supply
- 20:19Speaker 6: costs go up. Supply costs are going up because of
- 20:23Speaker 6: the increased demand, and we have inadequate generation on the
- 20:27Speaker 6: system to do that. You use New Jersey as an example.
- 20:30Speaker 6: Let me give you a real example of what happened
- 20:32Speaker 6: to New Jersey customers last year. New Jersey customers average
- 20:37Speaker 6: residential customers bill rose thirty eight dollars thirty four dollars.
- 20:42Speaker 6: I'm sorry, thirty four dollars. Thirty eight dollars was due
- 20:45Speaker 6: to supply because they were reconciling our bill, our bill,
- 20:51Speaker 6: our cost the demand, the transmission and distribution part went
- 20:54Speaker 6: down four dollars, but the bill still went up thirty four.
- 20:58Speaker 6: That's how important it is to get this supply stack
- 21:01Speaker 6: right to help lower all customers' bills.
- 21:04Speaker 3: Kevin, let me ask you about nuclear because this week
- 21:07Speaker 3: the government announced it plans to buy and own up
- 21:09Speaker 3: to ten large new nuclear reactors that could be paid
- 21:12Speaker 3: for using Japan's pledge to fund five hundred and fifty
- 21:16Speaker 3: billion dollars of investments in the US. Of course, this
- 21:18Speaker 3: is part of a push to meet surging demand for electricity,
- 21:21Speaker 3: and nuclear is increasingly seen as a solution to this need.
- 21:25Speaker 4: What's your take.
- 21:27Speaker 6: I think it's critical. I truly believe in a all
- 21:30Speaker 6: of the above approach and that nuclear base load generation
- 21:34Speaker 6: is going to be critical to us meeting this effort.
- 21:38Speaker 6: As you know, again, we've always taken an approach that
- 21:42Speaker 6: every electron matters to help unaffordability, and that's why it's
- 21:46Speaker 6: so critical. I use an example the Crane Center that's
- 21:50Speaker 6: coming back online in Pennsylvania. That's critical because it's new
- 21:56Speaker 6: generation coming back online. A large Microsoft is paying for it,
- 22:00Speaker 6: and that billion dollar loan is exactly what we need
- 22:04Speaker 6: to encourage reopening of these former facilities to get more
- 22:09Speaker 6: electrons back on. And that was one of the best
- 22:12Speaker 6: operating nuclear plants prior to its shuttering.
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