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- 0:15Hey, Lou, did we have an incredible busy weekend?
- 0:21So much fun. It was filled with so much, let's
- 0:27call it performance art this weekend. Loaded.
- 0:30Yes. Like a delicious baked potato. And it was
- 0:36really a mashup of the entire community. So we
- 0:43started our weekend with the Ballet X Young Patrons
- 0:48relaunch. It was at the Bach building. I don't
- 0:52know how we did it, but we had the parking gods
- 0:54on our side. We did 15 minutes in. Well, yes,
- 1:00but then they always come our way. They're like,
- 1:03oh, we're about to give up. Nope. We're staying.
- 1:06And did you even see in the comments? Some people
- 1:08were like, we were on our way. We couldn't find
- 1:11a part. We were circling. Yeah, we went home.
- 1:14Yeah. We were here for it. OK. And it was an
- 1:17amazing time. And we got to see some amazing
- 1:19people. Shout out Eli. Shout out Kilian. Shout
- 1:23out all of our new friends. Shout out to me joining
- 1:27as a young patron. You're welcome. Shout out
- 1:32you, Robert. Highlights included seeing Marquis
- 1:39of the Philadelphia Chamber Music Society and
- 1:44Alexa of Pi Gallery. They were both there. There
- 1:48were also moments in the performance where the
- 1:53women caught each other's eyes and it was just
- 1:56so clear that they were having a ball and dare
- 2:00I say they like each other? Yeah, yeah. Offline,
- 2:05if they're listening, they're like, duh. There
- 2:09were moments where Ballet X met the needs of
- 2:12the audience. For example, I caught Keelan grabbing
- 2:16seats for a standing elderly couple. Yeah. That
- 2:21was sweet. Super cute. Yeah. And you joined the
- 2:24Young Patron Circle. It was super simple to sign
- 2:28up. I... joined a program for like 10 bucks a
- 2:32month, and I'm able to get the discounted tickets,
- 2:35I'm able to join in their membership programming
- 2:38throughout the year. And I think it's going to
- 2:41be an amazing community to navigate with them
- 2:45this year. Tell us the age threshold for those
- 2:50too old to join. Robert's a pro on this as he
- 2:55so eloquently informed me Friday night. Caps
- 2:59out at 40. The tickets are easy enough, accessible
- 3:07enough to fit into most budgets. Definitely.
- 3:13Moving on to Saturday, Philadelphia Ballet, but
- 3:15back up because earlier in the week, Sterling
- 3:20Baca posted an Instagram. The first slide was
- 3:27himself and Sydney rehearsing with like kind
- 3:32of a line of spectators behind them. And you
- 3:36see him kind of roll his ankle. The reaction
- 3:41shot from the spectating dancers is how you know
- 3:45it was serious. And he was out of commission
- 3:49for Carmen Bolero. I'm assuming next week with
- 3:54Evening of Horror. Yeah. Sending best wishes
- 3:59for Sterling's recovery. 100%. Yes. Conductor
- 4:05Beatrice presented an award to Martha the pianist
- 4:09for over 50 years of work at a Saturday performance.
- 4:14It was insane. 53 seasons she's up to now. How
- 4:20incredible. Beyond. Could you imagine doing this
- 4:25podcast for 53 years? Huh. I read she doesn't
- 4:37just work with the Philadelphia Ballet, but she's
- 4:41worked with Opera Philadelphia amongst other
- 4:43performing arts companies. The Philadelphia Ballet
- 4:47just had Carmen only two years ago as the season
- 4:49opener. Do you remember that? Yeah, it was great
- 4:53that he garcon at the time fell asleep before
- 4:57the spice year scenes and of course, I was pregnant
- 5:01with baby do at that point He did not fall asleep
- 5:06before the spice year scenes this time. Yeah
- 5:10Whoops Now I cannot speak to whether there was
- 5:14one of these on that most recent Carmen But you
- 5:18know what I caught on the program this time around
- 5:20There was an intimacy coordinator credited. They're
- 5:25doing it right. They're making sure everybody
- 5:28is heard and that they feel comfortable, which
- 5:32is awesome. We all know the story about Carmen
- 5:35and also sidebar Robert. Did you know that circa
- 5:412000 or 2001 Beyonce was in a MTV television
- 5:48movie? called Carmen, comma, the Hip -Hopera.
- 5:55No, what? Where she played the title character.
- 5:59I think I only watched it as background noise,
- 6:03but I couldn't help but go back to one of Beyonce's
- 6:07earlier film roles during the performance. I've
- 6:13got a mini rapid fire for you. Okay, ready? Okay.
- 6:18Carmen. Harpie opportunist or just emotionally
- 6:22damaged and therefore unavailable? Harpie opportunist.
- 6:29Don Jose, sucker in love or homicidal idiot?
- 6:34Homicidal idiot. Anything else about Carmen?
- 6:38What do you have? I loved how the company in
- 6:45both pieces have had their time to really start
- 6:50to lean into it and hit every single beat. It
- 6:54was beautiful. It's you've really got to see
- 6:59that they had worked together on this in multiple
- 7:03variations to really make sure that it shined
- 7:08and for moving into Bolero. a little bit yeah
- 7:14let's move into Bolero perfect to have the live
- 7:18orchestra this time for Bolero was hands down
- 7:23an amazing experience last time they didn't have
- 7:26it last time they did not have the orchestra
- 7:29last time so this is the time that they had the
- 7:31orchestra and so they had practiced and practiced
- 7:35and rehearsed every single beat was so well done
- 7:40together It I mean it just builds and builds
- 7:43and builds it was it was great and We got to
- 7:48have a great party afterwards, too. I Postmated
- 7:53myself McDonald's on the way home, but back to
- 7:56Bolero You know, I had the kids with me yeah
- 8:02Big kid was asleep By the time we got through
- 8:08Carmen the little one Bebedou, one and a half
- 8:14years old, mesmerized by what he was seeing in
- 8:18Bolero, just sitting on his dad's lap, gazing
- 8:22ahead from RoCC. Thank you very much. Yeah, yeah.
- 8:28That might be your future dancer. That might
- 8:31be. And, you know, I think what is one of the
- 8:35most remarkable things about this production
- 8:38that everybody in the company is in this production.
- 8:44And I know we've said it before, but you are
- 8:47looking at the future of not just Philadelphia
- 8:51Ballet, but I think the future of ballet in the
- 8:54United States because, you know, people move
- 8:57on and they go to different companies and maybe
- 8:59they come back. I always think about this while
- 9:02I'm watching these type of performances and productions,
- 9:06who in the core do you just know is going to
- 9:11be promoted in a few years to soloist, principal
- 9:16dancer, et cetera? Any predictions? Mine is Juan.
- 9:21I think he stands out. I think he's a very powerful
- 9:24male dancer that has stood out in the last years
- 9:30of production as well and is even coming through
- 9:34to this season as another shining star. My money
- 9:40is on Isaac Hollis. Oh nice He was one of the
- 9:49bandits in act two of Carmen also sidebar Did
- 9:53you notice that the bandits did not join the
- 9:56rest of the cast for curtain call? I digress
- 10:01And also I so clearly remember him during dance
- 10:09card, just looking like he was having the best
- 10:13time ever throughout that. Last thing we have
- 10:19to touch on. Do we have to acknowledge the new
- 10:23PMA identification? It's always going to be the
- 10:28same to me. On to the conversation? On to the
- 10:33conversation. This is Robert Marsh, and you're
- 10:47listening to Philly Has Hard Podcast. In this
- 10:50podcast, we sit down with artists, gallerists,
- 10:53educators, curators, and other creatives who
- 10:56comprise the Philadelphia art world to discuss
- 10:59upcoming performances, exhibits, and other events
- 11:02and initiatives that are not to be missed. The
- 11:06art scene in Philadelphia is so rich that it
- 11:09can seem daunting. Consider this your weekend
- 11:12cultural recommendation. With me always is my
- 11:15producer Lucinda Dyerland. Hello. Hello. And
- 11:18today we have with us Arthur Haywood, muralist,
- 11:22artist. We are happy to have you today. Thank
- 11:25you so much for having me. I'm really looking
- 11:26forward to talking to you both. Yeah, this is
- 11:28great. This is great. Arthur. Let us know a little
- 11:32bit about your journey. How did you come into
- 11:39muralism, as well as art in itself? Yeah, I really
- 11:42got more into art as a teenager. I took a graffiti
- 11:45class downtown with an artist named Pose2 at
- 11:47the Hawthorne Community Center. And I actually
- 11:50got the opportunity because on the TV show, Trading
- 11:52Spaces, with my neighbor, the kid Trading Spaces,
- 11:55he had his room decorated into a skate park.
- 11:57And the artist posed to decorate his room graffiti.
- 12:01And one of the prizes for me, you know, as his
- 12:02friend, was to get the graffiti classes. So that
- 12:05was about maybe 13, 14. And I took graffiti classes
- 12:09continuing even through high school with his
- 12:11artist name posed to his real name is Daniel
- 12:13Hopkins. Yeah. And so that got me more into sharing
- 12:15my art publicly, you know, because graffiti is
- 12:17also a form of mural making and public art. Right.
- 12:20And so it was all legal. You know, the most legal
- 12:23thing I've done, you know, was with a marker
- 12:25on the sidewalk, you know, a washable marker.
- 12:28Right. You're living on the edge. Right. So my
- 12:32dad made sure once I got into graffiti, he's
- 12:34like, you know, you're not going to get arrested
- 12:35for this. So but it really excited me. The colors,
- 12:39you know, the character designs. It was just
- 12:42a way of expressing. and a way for me to let
- 12:45out emotions and also collaborate with other
- 12:47artists to share different ideas, to lift people
- 12:53up. Art is another way of enlightening people
- 12:56in terms of reassuring them, in terms of whether
- 13:01it's a mural or art about the environment, or
- 13:05even if it's just expressive. mural or expressive
- 13:09graffiti piece, you know, that can really brighten
- 13:11someone's day. And for me, I feel like the first
- 13:13time I ever got like thanked for creating a piece
- 13:16of art was like through doing graffiti or murals,
- 13:19you know, every other time you submit something,
- 13:21people like, you know, it's in the invoice. Right.
- 13:23It's pretty much like in the interaction, fairly
- 13:25transactional. Yes. But I found through mural
- 13:28making and graffiti that there was an interaction.
- 13:31with the public and people could, it was accessible
- 13:33and that people could see themselves or art in
- 13:37their own space on a daily basis because it's
- 13:39free, it's accessible in their own space or their
- 13:41own city and that really inspired me in terms
- 13:44of how I wanted to share art. I was also very
- 13:47into illustration and a lot of that also became
- 13:49from the accessibility of it. That you can share
- 13:52art with so many people because it's in printed
- 13:55format. And me being an avid reader, I was really
- 13:59into fantasy, Harry Potter growing up. And that
- 14:02really inspired me to be able to share my own
- 14:04art with other young readers in that same way
- 14:06to inspire them to read the story just from the
- 14:08cover. It's like a preview to the book. And having
- 14:11parents who were very involved in literacy, my
- 14:13father is State Senator Heywood. So he's organized
- 14:16reading camps. My mother's been president of
- 14:18the school board as well too. So growing up,
- 14:20I would hear them having meetings and that really
- 14:23showed me the importance of reading and literacy
- 14:24and how we can open up opportunities for young
- 14:26people. And, you know, especially me being an
- 14:29avid reader myself who loves stories, you know,
- 14:30it's fun. Right. And I really ended up just combining
- 14:33the two things that I love, you know, fantasy,
- 14:35art and stories to present it to young people
- 14:37who can connect with it, whether through illustrations,
- 14:39book covers or mural making for a school of public
- 14:42schools to encourage them to read. And so putting
- 14:45those two things I love together, I share it
- 14:46with an audience that can connect with it. gratified
- 14:50that they've been also been able to grow from
- 14:53that experience as well for the places I've done
- 14:55the art at internationally you know I was usually
- 14:58after I finished you know doing the graffiti
- 15:00classes in high school I went to Art College
- 15:02at the Maryland Institute College of Art for
- 15:04Illustration. And from there, I was doing another
- 15:09some more training after that to get more into
- 15:11the realistic painting of foundations. And so
- 15:14I went to a school here called Cambridge Street
- 15:15Studios in Philadelphia for about a year or two
- 15:18years. And that school shut down. And then I
- 15:21went to another school for additional painting
- 15:22in New York called Grand Central Atelier that
- 15:24really was based in classical foundation and
- 15:27training. Oh, wow. And then so I got more of
- 15:29a step by step process. been breeding on tradition
- 15:32since Da Vinci and Michelangelo in terms of how
- 15:36they develop portraits to make the illusion of
- 15:39portraits appear real. And so I really incorporated
- 15:42that into my art making, also combined with the
- 15:44idea of the messaging of human potential being
- 15:47limitless. So that's why I incorporated more
- 15:49of the stars in the background or fantasy subject
- 15:52matter to show that we are. limitless in our
- 15:55potential and just another way to visualize it
- 15:57is that through imagination. And then from there
- 16:00I was doing some murals in Philadelphia with
- 16:02the mural arts. I've been interning with them,
- 16:06because originally from the graffiti class, I
- 16:08interned with the artist named Nose Go. He has
- 16:09Goodwin as his real name. So that was when I
- 16:11was about a teenager, I met him. And then while
- 16:14I was in college, I was helping out with some
- 16:16murals as well, too, with mural arts. And then
- 16:18once I finished studying at Grand Central Atelier,
- 16:20that was in 2018, I ended up being an assistant
- 16:23artist on a mural with artist Wale Oyechide.
- 16:25He did some art for... Black Panther, I believe,
- 16:29for the movie, the costume designings. And so
- 16:31he did a mural for, I think, the 52nd Street
- 16:33Library, the Lucian Blackwell Library. We did
- 16:36work on that with another others. And while I
- 16:38was developing my own portfolio, I was creating
- 16:40a book about the Library of Alexandria at the
- 16:41same time. So I was working on my own art and
- 16:43illustrations. Oh my gosh. And ended up being
- 16:45able to have, you know, a... portfolio foundation
- 16:48for them to be able to receive other mural opportunities
- 16:52as well too, just based upon not only assisting
- 16:54other artists from that experience, but also
- 16:56seeing what my vision was artistically in terms
- 16:58of my own art. You're busy. Yes. I have a question.
- 17:03How much coffee are you drinking? Oh, I actually
- 17:05don't drink coffee. I actually used to work at
- 17:07a coffee shop. Sorry, do you go on? I'm sorry
- 17:09to interrupt. But you know, very fortunate to
- 17:12have support and opportunities throughout this
- 17:13whole process. So when I was doing the murals
- 17:16in Philadelphia and had my portfolio to enhance
- 17:20as a platform to enhance opportunities and to
- 17:23find opportunities, I did a mural in Harrisburg
- 17:25for the Sprocket Mural Festival. And then from
- 17:28there, I did some some other art for assisting
- 17:30artists like Amy Sherald for shooting the mural
- 17:33at the Target here in Center City. So I worked
- 17:35on that with two other artists, Keanu Jean and
- 17:39Emily White as well too. And from all those experiences,
- 17:44I ended up having more to my resume to submit
- 17:47to artist residency applications. And I was very
- 17:49fortunate, I got a residency in Paris. It was
- 17:52called from the Harry Hale Woolley Scholarship.
- 17:54And there I was continuing the same theme of
- 17:57painting students at this high school inside
- 18:00of their favorite stories, whether Star Wars
- 18:02or Narnia or even Harry Potter. And it was very
- 18:08much a coincidence is one of the project managers
- 18:11from Mural Arts connected me with her teacher
- 18:14that she studied with in high school when she
- 18:16grew up in France. So I was able to, you know,
- 18:19have the connection with the teacher there and
- 18:21the school. And Corfuva is like the small suburb.
- 18:23right outside of Paris, where I did these murals.
- 18:27And from there, the residency was initially nine
- 18:29months. And I was learning French while I was
- 18:31there. And I got an opportunity afterwards to
- 18:34continue at that same youth center right next
- 18:37to the high school I was working with to do some
- 18:38more murals for them for another nine months.
- 18:41And then I fortunately got a residency in Tulsa,
- 18:43the Tulsa Artist Fellowship. It was amazing because
- 18:45it's fully funded residency for two years. Wow.
- 18:48Where they cover the cost of living, a studio,
- 18:50and they give arts a stipend, a monthly stipend
- 18:52as well, too. So I was really able to focus on
- 18:54creating a body of work, still focused on the
- 18:56same theme, showing students the side of their
- 18:58favorite stories and decorating its entire high
- 19:01school dance studio, some other schools in Tulsa
- 19:03as well, too. And so when I came back to Philadelphia
- 19:06now, that was in January, I was able to get this
- 19:10opportunity with the Cobb Street Golf Course
- 19:11and the same project manager. connected me with
- 19:16the Cops Creek, who's the project manager. He
- 19:19got me to go to school in Paris. The same project
- 19:22manager connected me with this opportunity in
- 19:24Cops Creek to decorate their golf course. So
- 19:26it really is a very fortunate connections I've
- 19:30been able, people I've been able to meet and
- 19:32also grow with as people, but even professionally.
- 19:35Oh my gosh, yeah, 100%. Oh my gosh, your portfolio
- 19:39must be, I mean. I was gonna say, it must be
- 19:46sick. Yeah, I actually bought some pictures of
- 19:49it. Okay! I love that! Through all that experience,
- 19:53I've been really able to develop my portfolio.
- 19:55Well, I did want to mention the project manager
- 19:57who connected me with the school in Paris was
- 19:59Nessanelle Portier, and she was the same project
- 20:02manager who came to me with the Cops Creek. Oh,
- 20:03wow. Your opportunity when I came back and returned.
- 20:05Oh, my gosh. The new network. One of my dad's
- 20:09friends always says, you know, the person with
- 20:10the biggest network wins. You're all connected.
- 20:13Yes. And there's so much in common. It's just
- 20:15a matter of being able to see it. So I really
- 20:18believe a lot of our interactions are just reactions
- 20:22to our actions, and sometimes we just have to
- 20:24present. are what we have to offer for people
- 20:27to decide if they want to interact with it. How
- 20:29do you start that process with your subjects?
- 20:34Normally the process is involved through doing
- 20:38a student survey at the school for what their
- 20:41favorite books are, in particular whether it's
- 20:43popular titles or favorite genre of books. When
- 20:45I was doing the residency in Tulsa, I shifted
- 20:47the theme more towards just genre in general
- 20:49so I can make original artwork as well too. And
- 20:52so I do a survey amongst the students, and then
- 20:55once I get into the most popular books or genres,
- 20:57I create some designs from those themes. Five
- 21:02different designs based on the most popular books,
- 21:05and then the students voted. on which ones were
- 21:08their favorites, which one they connected with
- 21:09the most. So the most popular three, you know,
- 21:11I was doing the residency in Paris and in these
- 21:13other schools that I've done murals at, they
- 21:16voted on their most popular and that became the
- 21:19design, you know, the composition for the final
- 21:21painting. You know, from there, I'd go back to
- 21:23the school and take pictures of the students
- 21:25that are going to be inside of the painting.
- 21:27You know, normally the teacher has to decide
- 21:29for me because at one time I was doing one for
- 21:31elementary school, some students were crying
- 21:32because they couldn't be depicted. But there's
- 21:36an element. of the project, too, where students
- 21:38can help paint on the borders of the mural. Students,
- 21:40even if they're not depicted, they can still
- 21:41participate. Oh, that's great. So that's how
- 21:44the process unfolds. It's a way of engaging young
- 21:46people in the excitement of literacy and learning,
- 21:48because it's fun. It's an escape. And so some
- 21:52kids say they don't read. It's shocking, because
- 21:55it's a movie in your mind. Yes. Oh, that's so
- 21:57true. And you guys think about it more deeply.
- 21:59It's social commentary. You're interpreting every
- 22:01thought. that a character has. And it becomes,
- 22:04in a way, whether meditation, social commentary,
- 22:07there's so many important ideas. Like, imagine
- 22:09a world where you could not even reflect, you
- 22:12couldn't think. Right. You're working on a mural
- 22:14that's being installed at the Cobbs Creek Golf
- 22:17Course Learning Lab, a project for the Tiger
- 22:20Woods Foundation. And we've read that this is
- 22:22the second learning lab for the foundation itself.
- 22:25Philadelphia was selected as a tribute to his
- 22:28mentor, Charlie Sifford. How much of the creative
- 22:33was left up to you and what were your inspirations
- 22:37for that creative portion? Definitely. So I love
- 22:40this process that we had. It was very collaborative
- 22:42in terms of some students that take classes at
- 22:45the Learning Lab were involved in terms of, you
- 22:47know, taking a survey, but it was more so we
- 22:49did a workshop. Nice. Where they did a photo
- 22:51collage of some of their favorite celebrities
- 22:53that they wanted to see. in the mural. So I printed
- 22:56out a number of celebrities. The people on the
- 22:59committee for Cobbs Creek had mentioned some
- 23:01other ones, I thought, too, that were from Philadelphia.
- 23:04And they organized collages based on five or
- 23:0710 people that they wanted to see in the final
- 23:09mural. Nice. And so that influenced the final
- 23:1310 that we selected to be painted. And the theme
- 23:17for the mural that presented was stars of Philadelphia.
- 23:20These people are from Philadelphia shining their
- 23:23light. in their own way so you see in the mural
- 23:25painting they're all surrounded by like these
- 23:28star halos around them to show them we all shine
- 23:32our light in our own way and to never dim our
- 23:34light for anyone was a message you know to share
- 23:36with these young people that take classes at
- 23:38the Cobb Street Learning Center so the final
- 23:40ten that we ended up selecting you know we're
- 23:43Eve, Questlove Patti LaBelle, Will Smith, Tina
- 23:48Fey. So we had a section of entertainers. Oh,
- 23:51that's great. And then we had a section of athletes.
- 23:54So Charlie Sifford, Will Chamberlain, Kobe Bryant,
- 23:59Dawn Staley, and Johnny McDermott. another golfer,
- 24:03were the final 10 that they selected. So a lot
- 24:06of the committee was involved in selecting that
- 24:07final 10. Originally, they weren't trying to
- 24:09make me paint like 20 people. Given the time
- 24:12frame and budget, I could only paint a limited
- 24:14number of people at a time. So 10 was a number
- 24:17that we selected. That's excellent. That's incredible.
- 24:21We note that you work primarily with a medium
- 24:25that can withstand the elements, right, out inside
- 24:28in the murals. And this, we have a series of
- 24:31like some questions for you. So many questions
- 24:35about murals. Yes, we absolutely love it. What
- 24:38kind of paint or coating do you use for the murals?
- 24:42Yeah, so this is refreshing in the sense it's
- 24:44an interior mural, so I could more or less just
- 24:46treat it like a regular painting. You know, I
- 24:48use oil paint for the portraits because it's
- 24:49easier to blend with oil paint that dries more
- 24:52slowly, the acrylic paint dries within about
- 24:54a minute. So it's harder to blend and get the
- 24:56smoother transitions with acrylic paint. an interior
- 25:00mural, I don't have to worry about weather conditions.
- 25:02It's inside of the restaurant. So I really just
- 25:04use oil paint for the portraits. I use acrylic
- 25:06paint for the backgrounds. It's a larger space,
- 25:08more flat areas, and I have to worry so much
- 25:10about the blending, being smooth. And it also
- 25:13saves a lot of expenses as well, too, to use
- 25:16acrylic paint for the background. And so I just
- 25:19use Gambar. It's a varnish that they use on a
- 25:21lot of paintings in museums, in terms of a protective
- 25:24coat for the parts that are painted in oil paint.
- 25:26And I use this exterior Varnish caught from Nova
- 25:29color for the parts of running acrylic So I just
- 25:32combined those two together to get the final
- 25:34varnish and it should be a protective coat I
- 25:35mean, I mean, I'm sure like somebody spill like
- 25:37spaghetti on it right here. Probably wipe most
- 25:40of it off They do have some barges are like an
- 25:45inch or two inches deep Wow, but they're just
- 25:47a lot more expensive it's pretty much like you
- 25:49might as well get some glass And then what kind
- 25:56of coating do you use for exterior? Yeah, so
- 25:59for the exterior work that I do, I normally use
- 26:02the Nova color. They have either the exterior
- 26:05varnish, but there's also some other varnish
- 26:08that Nova color also makes that's more sustainable.
- 26:12I forget the actual title of it, but we use that
- 26:15on the Amy Sherrill mural because it's exposed
- 26:17to a lot of elements outside and they could afford
- 26:19it. That always plays a part though, right? And
- 26:24you know, it's funny because we did I have Meg
- 26:28Seligman on earlier this year. And yes, she's
- 26:33absolutely incredible. Yes. And it's crazy that,
- 26:39you know, the mural has to live on and the mural
- 26:42has to be like repainted every couple of years
- 26:47just to make sure that it stays and the elements
- 26:49don't just destroy it. Do you find yourself being
- 26:53part of that? kind of preservation side of your
- 26:58murals? Or do you paint your mural and then you
- 27:02step away? Yeah, for me personally, I create
- 27:05the mural for the interaction, the engagement
- 27:07with the community, and also to add to my portfolio.
- 27:10You know, I hope that it would be able to stay
- 27:12in a preserved state, but at a certain point,
- 27:14you know, it's out of my control. Right. And
- 27:16most of what I'm sharing with people is a digital
- 27:18image at this point in terms of seeking other
- 27:20opportunities. Unfortunately, I have not seen,
- 27:23you know, any like vandalism, but at a certain
- 27:26point it's out of my control. You know, put the
- 27:28varnish on it and you just kind of, you know,
- 27:31do the best with the rest of the time I have
- 27:33on the earth. In all honesty, there's no priorities.
- 27:37Correct. And because I think even some of Meg's
- 27:41work that at least I pass on... the Schuylkill
- 27:44Expressway, right, over time has been graffitied
- 27:48on top of it. But now there's a project going
- 27:51on for one of those pieces that it seems like
- 27:54they have cleaned off the graffiti and then are
- 27:57repainting the mural to bring it back to life.
- 28:00Yeah, I'm really glad those efforts and initiatives
- 28:01are in place. Because even like paintings you
- 28:04see in museums, like they wouldn't be there unless
- 28:06the ones we see in museums are the ones that
- 28:08had the most preservation and conservation taking
- 28:10place on them. So I'm glad that same level. of
- 28:14engagement is being taken place with public art.
- 28:18In a lot of ways, public art is more accessible
- 28:20than what we see in museums. A lot of times,
- 28:23museums are expensive, so a lot of young people
- 28:25can't even get there. I mean, so many people
- 28:26who work in mural arts, they've never been to
- 28:28a museum. Expensive, far away, so it really is
- 28:31important to preserve a lot of this public art.
- 28:33Yeah, that's huge. Oh, I love that. I love that.
- 28:35If you could transition to any other medium and
- 28:39achieve the same success that you currently have,
- 28:41what would it be? Yeah, so this transition even
- 28:44to some of my other objectives and goals that
- 28:47I have is also collaborating with sculptors,
- 28:51architects, to create what is going to be like
- 28:53a fantasy Sistine Chapel, like a school space
- 28:55or library where you feel like you would be immersed
- 28:59in the world of a story. The paintings that I
- 29:01was doing in Tulsa for this dance studio was
- 29:03more inspired by that theme in a more limited
- 29:06format where I was decorating the walls with
- 29:08paintings of students inside of fantasy worlds
- 29:11to show them in a heroic light. And I like to
- 29:14expand that vision to a space where not only
- 29:18the walls are decorated, but also the floors.
- 29:24The ceilings, you know, are also painted, so
- 29:26you feel like you're within the world of fantasy
- 29:28story. That's how it feels for me to read, immersed,
- 29:31transported into that world in my mind. Where
- 29:34I'm in that environment, I'm involved with the
- 29:37characters, and this is a way to, you know, engage
- 29:40young people in an instant. into the world they
- 29:43can escape into. Right. And it's a way to do
- 29:45it visually. And also for young people that could
- 29:48collaborate in terms of helping paint on some
- 29:50of the borders or some of the simpler designs.
- 29:53So a medium I'd like to transition into is collaboration
- 29:55more with architects, sculptors, to more or less
- 29:58create this experience. Is there certain music
- 30:02or any background noise that you listen to when
- 30:05you're creating your art? Yeah, so when I'm painting,
- 30:08whether it's a portrait, it's more intense. I
- 30:11have to focus more on the transitions. Also to
- 30:13instrumentals like chill hop. on my headphones.
- 30:16But if I'm painting a background that's more
- 30:18general, or clothing that's more general, normally
- 30:20I listen to audiobooks, whether it's fantasy,
- 30:24romantic, or sci -fi audiobooks. That's pretty
- 30:27much what I listen to, to transition me to another
- 30:28space, but also to learn, to have stories to
- 30:31learn from. There's so much social commentary
- 30:33in fantasy, whether it's oligarchy, you can really
- 30:37view a lot of these things objectively, or relationship
- 30:39dynamics. You can really view a lot of these
- 30:41dynamics objectively. Where can the audience
- 30:44find you online and real life? Yeah, so I'm online.
- 30:48My website is ArthurHeywood .com. It's Arthur
- 30:50like the aardvark. We're going to link it in
- 30:53the show notes. We got you. Yup. A -R -T -H -U
- 30:57-R Heywood, H -A -Y -W -O -O -D .com. And my
- 31:00Instagram handle is ArthurHeywood as well too.
- 31:03So any other links, you know, whether Facebook.
- 31:06I still have a Twitter where I just came to X
- 31:08at this point. I don't really post on there anymore.
- 31:10But if you want to view some archive work, that's...
- 31:12into that from my website. That's great. That's
- 31:15great. I love that. Rapid fire questions for
- 31:18you. What is your favorite Philadelphia neighborhood?
- 31:21I think Philadelphia neighborhood, probably like
- 31:24the art museum district. There's so many museums
- 31:26on the Parkway. The Rodin Museum, the Philadelphia
- 31:28Art Museum. Calder Gardens. Just opened. The
- 31:31Mudder Museum. I don't think I'll go in there
- 31:33again because it was really graphic. I couldn't
- 31:36even handle like the ring. But there's so many
- 31:40amazing things to be inspired by. Oh yeah. And
- 31:43staying inspired is so important. Set the scene.
- 31:45We're going to assist you with a heist. Heywood's
- 31:48three. Forget Ocean's 11, okay? What piece of
- 31:52art are we stealing? Oh, what are we stealing?
- 31:56What do you want for your collection? I think,
- 32:00you know, a painting that I would really appreciate
- 32:02to look at, you know, like on a, you know, like
- 32:05on a daily basis, probably be the Birth of Venus
- 32:09that's in the Musée d 'Orsay. And Paris, you
- 32:12know, the painting is, um, you know, uplifting
- 32:16in terms of her and showing her, you know, as
- 32:18like a goddess, but other also like just the
- 32:21way it's painted, uh, you know, technically he
- 32:24really made her look like she's a shines like
- 32:25a pearl in terms of translucency of that brain
- 32:28application. And, you know, he's been one of
- 32:31the artists that I look at in terms of it for
- 32:32a technical base for making things appear realistic.
- 32:36and how that can also transcend in terms of giving
- 32:38other emotions, you know, in terms of, you know,
- 32:40really painting her shining and glowing like
- 32:42a pearl. You know, that also gives a metaphorical
- 32:45interpretation as well, too. What is your favorite
- 32:47art museum outside of Philadelphia? Outside of
- 32:51Philadelphia, probably the Louvre. And Paris,
- 32:53you know, it's incredible historical and painting
- 32:56treasure trove. You never see it all in one day,
- 33:00but there's so many time periods and techniques
- 33:02of painting to explore within one space that
- 33:05for me, you know, the Louvre in and of itself,
- 33:10the paintings, the building, it's just the whole
- 33:13space is a treasure chest of inspiration. Love
- 33:16it. Love it. If you could commission any artist
- 33:18in history to produce a portrait of you, who
- 33:21would it be? You know, I really have been a very
- 33:24big fan of Rockwell in terms of the humanism
- 33:26he had in a lot of his work, in terms of portraying
- 33:29people, no matter their backgrounds, origins,
- 33:31you know, in a very, you know, characteristic
- 33:34way. And I really, I think it'd be honored, you
- 33:37know, to see how he would paint me. He does a
- 33:39lot, you know, sometimes exaggerating, sometimes
- 33:41more realistic, but seeing what his take would
- 33:44be in terms of that spectrum. Can you describe
- 33:46the Philadelphia art scene in one word? Yeah,
- 33:49I think it's innovating. Arthur, this has been
- 33:52great. Thank you so much for your time today.
- 33:55No, this is good. Is there anything else that
- 33:57you wanted to share with the audience? Oh, yesterday,
- 33:59thank you to you both for having me here, for
- 34:02the opportunity, as well as to the people at
- 34:04Muir Arts and Cobbs Creek who helped organize
- 34:06this project. I'm really fortunate and looking
- 34:08forward to sharing, you know, people at the students
- 34:11unveiling and people who attend, you know, how
- 34:13they can shine their own light in their own way.
- 34:15Excellent. You heard him, people. Excellent.
- 34:17Thank you so much. Thank you. He is absolutely
- 34:33incredible and his process is amazing. To be
- 34:38able to kind of pull in together, especially
- 34:40when he works with kids in schools, to be able
- 34:43to like pull those kids to his work was so collaborative
- 34:51that he really makes sure, and you know what,
- 34:56now that I'm even saying that, like, we're finding
- 34:58that a lot of muralists make sure that they collaborate
- 35:02with the community before they start to put paint
- 35:07on wall to begin with. And so that's, I think
- 35:12that's been a through line from the muralists
- 35:14that we have had on. Hence the public in public
- 35:18art. Yeah, yeah. They make sure to give them
- 35:22a voice. Alright ladies and gents we have some
- 35:28things for this weekend and a bunch of things
- 35:30for you to put in your calendar. We're gonna
- 35:33kick it off starting on Thursday but all weekend
- 35:36the Philadelphia Ballet's Evening of Horror from
- 35:39October 16th through the 19th. The Philadelphia
- 35:44Film Festival also starts on October 16th and
- 35:48runs through the 26th. The annual Barnes Art
- 35:53Ball is this Friday October 17th. The Philadelphia
- 35:57Orchestra's Children's Halloween Spectacular
- 36:01at the Kimmel Center is on October 18th at 1130
- 36:06a .m. Henry Rousseau's A Painter's Secrets opens
- 36:12at the Barnes on October 19th and runs through
- 36:15February 22nd. Friend of the Pod, Dominique Samarco
- 36:21is hosting a pioneer landscape workshop on October
- 36:2425th from 3 to 6. For a very accessible $28,
- 36:30all direction and supplies are included. In Philadelphia
- 36:34Ballet, we see your gala and raise you the Ballet
- 36:37X's 20th anniversary gala on October 28th. But
- 36:42you don't have to go to the gala to enjoy Ballet
- 36:45X's 20th anniversary retrospective running from
- 36:49October 29th through November 9th. There is A
- 36:53program and B program, so go to one or both.
- 36:58Young Friends of the Philadelphia Ballet Brunch
- 37:00at the Bar is November 9th from 11 to 1. Tickets
- 37:05are on sale now. False Dawn and Memory Loss at
- 37:09the Print Center is on exhibition through November
- 37:1322nd. And something to get on your radar for
- 37:16later this fall, tickets for the traveling exhibition
- 37:20Dreamworld Surrealism at 100 are available. The
- 37:25exhibit does not open until November 8th, but
- 37:28it will run until February 16th. And the PMA
- 37:32is the only United States venue getting a stop.
- 37:36End with that. Philly has art. And art!