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Ken Rosenthal/Jim Bowden: “Vintage” Stroman, Ohtani’s rule, Boston’s Bregman, Arenado’s status, Pivetta’s deal, Rendon’s run · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Nick Pavetta and his agent made a huge mistake. They
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  Speaker 1: were offered twenty point nine million on a one year
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  Speaker 1: contract and they rejected it.
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  Speaker 2: It's the Inside Scoop with FT senior insider Ken Rosenthal. Ken,
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  Speaker 2: great to have you on a lot to get to
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  Speaker 2: him and get right to business, and happy Valentine's Day
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  Speaker 2: to you and your family.
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  Speaker 1: So on that.
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  Speaker 2: Note, of course, of course, on that note, Ken, you
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  Speaker 2: know what's funny? Marcus Stroman shows back up to camp
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  Speaker 2: a day after all kinds of drama in Tampa because
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  Speaker 2: they wanted him to be there, and he alluded to
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  Speaker 2: Valentine's Day being part of the reason why he shows
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  Speaker 2: up for camp. Do you believe that? And what's going
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  Speaker 2: on here?
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  Speaker 3: I don't really think anything's going on other than Marcus
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  Speaker 3: being Marcus. He's kind of an individualist, he always has been.
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  Speaker 3: And I guess Todd and Eric could tell me better
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  Speaker 3: whether this kind of thing causes a ripple in the clubhouse.
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  Speaker 3: He is not technically late, as he pointed out, and
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  Speaker 3: he's still well ahead of the mandatory date as well
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  Speaker 3: as the first full workout. So I kind of thought
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  Speaker 3: this was a big nothing. It's only a something in
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  Speaker 3: my opinion, because he is a different personality, and because
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  Speaker 3: also he is someone that the Yankees probably will trade,
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  Speaker 3: or at least we'll really try to trade. They're trying
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  Speaker 3: to do that right now. So there's some stuff swirling
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  Speaker 3: around about him. He's got a vesting option that kicks
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  Speaker 3: in at one hundred and forty innings, and that's why
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  Speaker 3: he said this morning, I want to start.
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  Speaker 1: Duh.
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  Speaker 3: It's worth eighteen million dollars. If he gets to one forty,
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  Speaker 3: he gets the eighteen. So I don't expect he's going
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  Speaker 3: to be a Yankee opening Day with all the pitching
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  Speaker 3: injuries that are certainly inevitable in this sport. Before that
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  Speaker 3: day comes, there's going to be some team that I
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  Speaker 3: think the Yankees can offload him to and maybe create
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  Speaker 3: some room to get another infielder.
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  Speaker 4: There's a way he's handled this, because you said he's
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  Speaker 4: an individual, and you know there's different things that he
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  Speaker 4: does differently than other people. The way he's handled this,
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  Speaker 4: does this make him untradable or not much value?
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  Speaker 3: I guess the question, Eric is if his personality is
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  Speaker 3: a turn off to other teams to the extent where
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  Speaker 3: they're thinking, you know what, we're not going there. But really,
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  Speaker 3: for the most part last season, he was an entirely
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  Speaker 3: good citizen and there was no problem with Marcus Stroman.
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  Speaker 3: Remember when his role was reduced for the postseason, he
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  Speaker 3: was fine. He didn't cause a stir So I'm not
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  Speaker 3: saying the reputation is overblown. The reputation is there for
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  Speaker 3: a reason. But I remember writing last year at this
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  Speaker 3: time that the Yankees felt that they could absorb him
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  Speaker 3: and Verdugo and some of the other different guys that
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  Speaker 3: they had and that it would not be a problem.
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  Speaker 3: And it really wasn't a problem. So he's a guy
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  Speaker 3: who at this point in his career is not a
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  Speaker 3: top of the rotation starter. But can he give you innings?
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  Speaker 3: Can he be confident? Yeah, he's shown that repeatedly, and
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  Speaker 3: I would not say he's a bad teammate. He's just
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  Speaker 3: a different guy.
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  Speaker 5: Alex Bregman signed a big deal there with the Red Sox.
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  Speaker 5: Now we leaned towards an Alan Arnado still got some juice.
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  Speaker 5: Laft a really good third basement. As we know, a
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  Speaker 5: couple of things here. Is there anything flowing with him
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  Speaker 5: moving to another team? And how are the Cardinals fielding
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  Speaker 5: rice now? Are they frustrated or are they upset? Like,
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  Speaker 5: what do you think the mood is over there in
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  Speaker 5: Cardinal lamp.
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  Speaker 3: Todd, My guess is the Cardinals were upset when he
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  Speaker 3: rejected the trade to Houston, because that would have solved
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  Speaker 3: this whole problem. And by waiting what happened, he lost
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  Speaker 3: his most desired landing spot Boston, and now there seemingly
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  Speaker 3: is nowhere for him to go. John Mozaia, like their
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  Speaker 3: president of Baseball Operations said yesterday telling reporters, hey, he's
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  Speaker 3: got to expand his list of teams that he would
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  Speaker 3: be willing to play for or else. We're really kind
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  Speaker 3: of at a crossroads here, at a roadblock, So I
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  Speaker 3: don't know what's going to happen here. Obviously, injuries could
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  Speaker 3: create a need elsewhere. We know the Cardinals were willing
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  Speaker 3: to pick up a significant amount of cash, but he's
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  Speaker 3: still signed for three more years. And even if you're
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  Speaker 3: getting him in three years, say forty five million, which
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  Speaker 3: is about what the Astros obligation would have been, it's
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  Speaker 3: still a good amount of money for a guy who
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  Speaker 3: has had pretty sharp offensive declines the last two years.
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  Speaker 3: Do I believe no one Arnado is still a really
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  Speaker 3: good player. Yeah, I do, and I think he can
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  Speaker 3: come back and be more towards what we've expected of
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  Speaker 3: him in the past. But he hasn't shown that, and
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  Speaker 3: that's really the biggest thing that to me is a
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  Speaker 3: problem here, besides the fact that he only has a
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  Speaker 3: limited number of places he wants to go, so at
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  Speaker 3: the moment, it looks like he'll be a Cardinal opening Day,
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  Speaker 3: but you never know what might transpire in the weeks ahead.
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  Speaker 4: Who does this hurt the most, Aeronauto or the Cardinals.
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  Speaker 4: Cardinals have young guys that they want to come bring up.
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  Speaker 4: Obviously they don't want to pay the money, but they're
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  Speaker 4: gonna be eating some of this they're getting to me.
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  Speaker 4: Eronato's a draw. I get it. He's not the MVP
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  Speaker 4: candidate that he was, but he's still Gold Glove candidate.
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  Speaker 4: So who's hurt the most here?
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  Speaker 1: Both.
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  Speaker 3: Arnado's hurt because he wants to go to a place
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  Speaker 3: where he can win. The Cardinals they haven't spent a
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  Speaker 3: single dollar in major league free agency this winter because
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  Speaker 3: they are taking this approach where they're going to retool
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  Speaker 3: a little bit. Now, it's interesting to me, if you're
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  Speaker 3: going to retool trade Hellsley, trade some of your players
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  Speaker 3: with value. But they're not doing that. They are in
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  Speaker 3: the last year of Mozealac's tenure here seemingly trying to
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  Speaker 3: put a presentable product on the field, which is fine.
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  Speaker 3: I have no problem with that, but they're kind of
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  Speaker 3: caught in between. And in this sport we've seen time
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  Speaker 3: and again you don't want to be caught in between.
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  Speaker 3: You want to be either going forward or kind of
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  Speaker 3: retooling and pushing for the future. So Arnado's hurt because
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  Speaker 3: he's not with a team that is really going for it.
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  Speaker 3: And the Cardinals are hurt just for the reason you said, Eric.
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  Speaker 3: They want to go forward, they want to save some money, right,
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  Speaker 3: maybe get a prospect back for Arnauto, and they want
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  Speaker 3: to play guys like Donovan and others at third base,
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  Speaker 3: and now he is kind of blocking that path for them.
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  Speaker 5: I want to move a little bit north to Tito Francona.
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  Speaker 5: I want to tell her about Reds a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: This guy has been phenomenal. We know about the health scares,
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  Speaker 5: we know about all the surgeries. He is living a
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  Speaker 5: different life as you've said before, and as you've said
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  Speaker 5: here and as you got quoted, talk a little bit
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  Speaker 5: about Tito and what we're going to look forward to.
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  Speaker 5: Is it going to be the same guy, fiery guy,
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  Speaker 5: or you know, just talk a little bit about him,
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  Speaker 5: you know, because listen, the Reds needed a manager to
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  Speaker 3: Health Wise, Todd, he's the same guy. Personality wise, he's
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  Speaker 3: never going to change. He's Tito and that personality is
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  Speaker 3: maybe the main reason he's been such a successful manager.
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  Speaker 3: And I was in their camp two days ago and
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  Speaker 3: pretty much everyone there is saying it's a different vibe now.
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  Speaker 3: Not that it was a bad vibe under David Bell,
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  Speaker 3: but David Bell was a first time manager who didn't
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  Speaker 3: have success. There's going to be a natural tension there
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  Speaker 3: as he tries to win and tries to kind of
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  Speaker 3: build something. Tito has been there and done that. He's
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  Speaker 3: one two World Series, nearly one third. He has seen
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  Speaker 3: it all, done it all, and has a way about
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  Speaker 3: him that enables him to specially connect with players, and
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  Speaker 3: that is his magic to me, the way he connects
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  Speaker 3: with guys and kind of keeps them going. It's not
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  Speaker 3: that he is totally a player's manager and just haha
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  Speaker 3: that guys just go out and play. But he is
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  Speaker 3: kind of firmly confident. If that's the right way to
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  Speaker 3: put it. I don't know that it is. That's not
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  Speaker 3: a great phrase necessarily, but he's firm in his convictions.
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  Speaker 3: He wants the game played a certain way. He has
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  Speaker 3: a confidence about him because he's been there and done that,
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  Speaker 3: and yet at the same time, he's one of the
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  Speaker 3: funniest guys we all know, and he conveys that to
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  Speaker 3: the players as well his self deprecating style that endears
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  Speaker 3: him to guys. So I don't know if they're going
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  Speaker 3: to be a playoff team this year, but they have
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  Speaker 3: the ability with Matt McClain coming back with some of
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  Speaker 3: the additions, to at least compete for a wild card,
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  Speaker 3: and we will see again how much a difference maker
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  Speaker 3: Kona can be. He's been that guy in the past.
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  Speaker 2: And if you want Ken's take, first of all, great
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  Speaker 2: to have Tito back. If you want Ken's take on
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  Speaker 2: Bregman and Paveta, he was all over it on Fair
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  Speaker 2: Territory with Lana Rizzo. I know some of you were
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  Speaker 2: asking about it. So the episode's out, you can go
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  Speaker 2: check that out later on because there's two more things
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  Speaker 2: I want to get to here, Ken number one show.
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  Speaker 2: Hey Otani, I know you touched on that briefly in
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  Speaker 2: fair territory. Does anyone think it's unfair that the rule
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  Speaker 2: was tweaked specifically for him? We did a segment on
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  Speaker 2: him the other day. Obviously, Dodgers fans lost their minds
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  Speaker 2: and say we hate the Dodgers, blah blah blah. But
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  Speaker 2: is it fair to change a rule based on a
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  Speaker 2: player's injury projection here and say now it's eligibility for
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  Speaker 2: the two way status for two years instead of one.
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  Speaker 3: Well, first of all, this rule was created essentially for Otani, right,
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  Speaker 3: the two way player rule, which enables a team to
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  Speaker 3: carry an extra picture because that player is not designated
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  Speaker 3: as a pitcher. So the Dodgers once so Tani can
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  Speaker 3: pitch again, we'll be able to carry fourteen pitchers instead
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  Speaker 3: of thirteen. That is an undeniable advantage. So that's where
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  Speaker 3: this started. Now, this rule was changed, I believe at
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  Speaker 3: the start of twenty three, and it was changed for
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  Speaker 3: a variety of reasons. I'm not exactly sure exactly why,
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  Speaker 3: but I don't think it was necessarily stemming from his injury.
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  Speaker 3: They had an idea to go back to the way
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  Speaker 3: it was supposed to be originally. When you have two
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  Speaker 3: years previous, if you can hit those standards, the twenty
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  Speaker 3: innings pitched the twenty starts as a position player with
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  Speaker 3: at least replayed appearances per game. If you do that
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  Speaker 3: in the two previous years, either of the two previous years,
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  Speaker 3: you're good. You're qualified as a two way player. So
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  Speaker 3: I don't know that we're gonna hear any squawking about this.
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  Speaker 3: This rule was in place. The only reason this even
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  Speaker 3: came to light is because MLB dot com on their
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  Speaker 3: website had not adjusted what the previous rule had been.
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  Speaker 3: It had been the original rule. So that's the only
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  Speaker 3: reason I knew about this in the first place. One
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  Speaker 3: of our producers pointed it out to me and said, hey,
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  Speaker 3: look at this. There was a tweet about it, So
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  Speaker 3: I asked about it, and Fabi and Ardaia and I
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  Speaker 3: did a story yesterday about it. But I don't know
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  Speaker 3: that you can say this is any more in favor
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  Speaker 3: of Otani than the original rule was they want to
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  Speaker 3: encourage two way players. That's why this rule is in place.
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  Speaker 4: Is there anything that you have to add on the
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  Speaker 4: whole Rendon hip surgery thing now that we're hearing possibly
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  Speaker 4: he could think about retirement because of how extensive a
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  Speaker 4: hip surgery is.
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  Speaker 3: First of all, he's not going to retire with money
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  Speaker 3: due to him. Players never do that. They just stay
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  Speaker 3: on the da or the eyel, I should say, And
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  Speaker 3: that's how they finished their careers. If indeed that's where
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  Speaker 3: this is headed. So he has two years left, He's
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  Speaker 3: not retiring at the end of the season. He's not
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  Speaker 3: walking away from that money. No player does that. He
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  Speaker 3: would not be the first in that situation. Now, will
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  Speaker 3: he ever play again? That is something that I think
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  Speaker 3: we all have doubts about. Probably Anthony Rendon has doubts
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  Speaker 3: about that. So the Angels were never planning on him
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  Speaker 3: being a big part of what they were going to do.
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  Speaker 3: I think we talked about this the other day they
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  Speaker 3: signed Mankata. They knew that Rendon, even if this hurt
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  Speaker 3: surgery had been avoided and had never came to pass,
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  Speaker 3: that he was not a guy who had played a
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  Speaker 3: lot the last few years. So that's why they signed Mankata.
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  Speaker 3: They go forward in that sense, And whether Rendon plays
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  Speaker 3: again or not, I guess in some way it will depend.
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  Speaker 3: I guess it always depends on this, on his desire
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  Speaker 3: to do that after all this surgery that he's had,
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  Speaker 3: after all the different physical issues, and that will be
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  Speaker 3: on Anthony Rendon.
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  Speaker 2: Ken there's no better way to finish your segment today
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  Speaker 2: than to talk nicely on being sarcastic about your favorite
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  Speaker 2: friend who's not here today, AJ Prizinski. So on Valentine's Day,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to actually present you something AJ said the
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  Speaker 2: other day that I highly highly debated him on and
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  Speaker 2: contested him on. He didn't like the Kenley Jansen signing
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  Speaker 2: for the Angels because he feels like Ben Joyce should
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  Speaker 2: be the guy in the ninth and I could see
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  Speaker 2: them holding him back. That helps them in arbitration with
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  Speaker 2: a young flamethrower and all of that, But also Kenlly
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  Speaker 2: does give them more depth in the bullpen. It's not
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  Speaker 2: like you can't have multiple high leverage relievers, and if
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  Speaker 2: they're not good, they can get something for him at
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  Speaker 2: the trade deadline. So would you like to be on
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  Speaker 2: my side here? When Aj can't defend himself.
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  Speaker 3: I am on your side and I don't understand why
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  Speaker 3: AJ would oppose getting another good reliever. That's what the
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  Speaker 3: Angels are doing here, and Kelly Jansen also offers the
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  Speaker 3: intangible of being able to groom Ben Joyce into this role.
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  Speaker 3: This is not an easy role. We all know that,
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  Speaker 3: and Ben Joyce will learn from Kenley Jansen. Kenlly Jansen's
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  Speaker 3: a great teammate. He is one of these players who
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  Speaker 3: is willing to share his wisdom. And the Angels, as
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  Speaker 3: screwy as they are, and they are a little bit screwy,
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  Speaker 3: they are not conceding here. They have done some things.
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  Speaker 3: Kokuuchi was one, Jansen's another, and there have been a
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  Speaker 3: few mews in between with the goal of and they
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  Speaker 3: brought in some players that they feel are highly professional,
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  Speaker 3: Travis Darnault, Jorge Solaire, and they believe that they're going
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  Speaker 3: to be a better club. How good we'll see. But
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  Speaker 3: that's what the Angels are doing here. They're not trying
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  Speaker 3: to finish last again. They want to compete. They want
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  Speaker 3: to be as good as they can. We can debate
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  Speaker 3: whether they will be good and whether their moves are
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  Speaker 3: been the right kinds of moves. I get it. And
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  Speaker 3: we can also say why don't they just trade tro
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  Speaker 3: out and start over. That's a good question too, but
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  Speaker 3: this is the path they're taking, and if you're taking
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  Speaker 3: that path, Kelly Jansen makes perfect sense.
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  Speaker 2: There we go see beautifully beautifully stated poetry to our
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  Speaker 2: friend AJ and a great way to finish the segment
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  Speaker 2: here on Friday, Ken, thank you for the time. I
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  Speaker 2: of course wholeheartedly agree with you. Enjoy the weekend and
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  Speaker 2: the camps.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Happy Valentine's Day to AJ. I hope he's having
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  Speaker 3: a great day.
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  Speaker 4: Beautiful nice.
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  Speaker 3: We will clip that.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, Ken fair tear Tory part of the FT
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: Network Fresh episode yesterday. A good chunk of time on
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  Speaker 2: that Alex Bregman signing, so go check it out. And
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: then they talked about the uniqueness of the Nick Pavetta
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  Speaker 2: deal as well. I mean, come on, that's fire Front
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  Speaker 2: Office unfiltered. It is Jim Bowden joining us. You'll see
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: him for the most part every week here on FT
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: as our FT resident GM. We're super pumped to have
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: you here. The Foul Territory logo behind you looks absolutely great.
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  Speaker 1: JB. How you doing I'm doing great, you guys, how
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  Speaker 1: are you good? Good?
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  Speaker 2: Great to have you here. And you know it's kind
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: of like the bat phone for you too. When we
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: see a story pop up, we're like, we need JB
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  Speaker 2: on this. So we gave you the late call because
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: we were like, Okay, Marcus Stroman dominates the storylines in
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: New York yesterday for not showing up as quickly as
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: everyone else technically not late. So give us your experience
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: in this kind of deadline with players and if you've
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: come across this one with anyone else. And the next
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: layer of this JB is, can Marcus Stroman get his
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: wish to be traded because we know that's what he wants,
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: or would you be like, I'm not touching this situation
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: with a ten foot poll based on a player not
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: showing up like this and becoming a distraction.
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: I don't like distractions. I like a happy culture. I'll
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: move the player if I can make a trade that
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: makes the Yankees better. That's my quick answer. I mean,
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: look for Marcus Stroman to stop following the Yankees on
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: social media. And then he's living in Tampa, he's in shape,
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: he's been working out at Legends, and then you're not
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: going to show up with the pitchers and catchers for
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: a couple of days because you want to make a point, Like, really,
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: in this day and age, you want to do that.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, I can't stand the mandatory
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: reporting date because it gives the players that flexibility to
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: come whenever they want up until that date. I think
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: the Players Association should come with the clubs and say, look,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: let's have every pitcher and catcher report when the team
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: wants them to report. Let the position players report when
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: they want to report, and make it consistent. Did I
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: like that he did this? No? What did Brian Cashman
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: say today? Oh that's vintage Stroman, which is what he
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: is right now? Look, I like him, right, He's a
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: good guy. He has always had a chip on his
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: shoulder because at five seven, no one thought he could
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: pitch in the big leagues. And he's been a very
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: consistent thirty start, ten win guy. I get that. But
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: he wears out as welcome. He did in Toronto, he
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: did in Chicago, and he's going to do the same
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: thing here. You know, as a former GM, I can
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: tell you I want guys that want to win. I
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: want guys that will accept whatever role the manager of
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: the team thinks you need to be in to win.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, the Dodgers have ten frigging starters. Not one
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: of them are complaining whether they start or in the bullpen,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: or whether it's a five man rotation or a six
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: man rotation. So my initial answer to that is it
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: discuss me. It's terrible move the player. That's what I
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: would do if I can. But at the same time,
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: I want to And Marcus Stroman is the sixth best
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: starting pitcher of the Yankees have and if they were
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: to have an injury, which you know they will because
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: everybody does, they're going to want to have Stroman. So
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: it makes it a difficult situation.
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: I can understand how it is as a player seeing
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: another player not showing up and you're like, okay, you
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: have a feeling. As a GM, what are the steps
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: that you have to go through to handle it from
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: talking to the player, talking to the manager, talking to
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: the team. Do you just allow that? Do you if
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: you're the if you're in cashman shoes, do you just
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: let Boonie take care of all of this and you
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: just talked to Boonie and that's it?
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Or where does it go No, I talked to the
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: players directly. I'll give you a story. I signed Kevin
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Mitchell as a free agent when I was GM at
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Reds, and I called Kevin because he had
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: a history of not showing up on time, and so
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: I called him. I said, Kevin, look, I went on
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: a limb. I made a big trade to get you.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Will you just do me one favor and show up
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: in the position players report? Will you just please do
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: that for me? I asked him ahead of time, and
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: he says to me, Jim, absolutely, I will. Don't worry
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: about it. And then the reporting date came and guess
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: who wasn't there? Kevin Mitchell. And then I called the
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: next day and the next day and the owner's calling me.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: The owner's upset you traded for this guy who doesn't
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: want to be It was so annoying. So I finally
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: get a hold of Kevin and I said where are you?
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: And he said to me, wait a minute. You didn't
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: hear the news. My cousin got shot at the salon
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: in San Diego. And I said, Kevin, that's the same
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: excuse you used last year. You can't do it again
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: this year. And he just kind of laughed. But yeah,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: it's annoying. It's just annoying because as a GM I
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: want all my players there on the first day of
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: pitchers and catchers, in the first day of position players,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: or I want them their early working. You're building a culture,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: you're building togetherness, you're building a team, and honestly, from
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: a front office perspective, it's an important part of it.
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: I want to talk a little bit a little bit
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: about Alex Pregman, and he brought up the situation where
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: putting Bregman at third base and moving a couple other
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: pieces around. He got a lot of different offers too.
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: I mean, he turned down one of the biggest offers
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: that he had with the Tigers. And you saw what
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: Scott Harris had to say about the whole situation and everything,
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: and that talk a little bit about Bregman, and you
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: know what made him kind of sway his way. What
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: do you think was the possibilities because one sixty one
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: is no slouch of change right there.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not tough. But here's the thing. He got
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: one twenty over three years and he can opt out
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: after any single year of this contract whenever it's best
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: to opt out, and so three years at one twenty
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: is way better than six years at one seventy one
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: that the Tigers offered, or six years at one fifty
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: six that the Astros offered. He's gonna absolutely beat that.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Let's just say he stays in Boston for the three years.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: All he would need to do is get twelve million
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: a year the next three years to equal what Houston
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: had on or fifteen million a year for three years
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: to beat what Detroit had. So Alex Bregman's gonna beat
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: this by signing this deal. That's number one. Number two.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: I thought Todd the two best places for Alex was
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: either go back to Houston number one, where he succeeded
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: in that ballpark, or number two. I thought Fenway Park
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: was the next best spot because of the Green Monster.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: He's a poll hitter and they needed the balance. And
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: I think Boston is a great fit for him. It's
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: got a chance to win. I think a better chance
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: to win in Boston than Detroit, Houston, and even Chicago
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: for that matter. So I liked it from that perspective.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: I think the part that's going to be fascinating to
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: me is where are you going? To play him.
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: I know Alex Cora has come out and said that
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: he thinks he can win a Gold Glove at second base.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: You know what, maybe he can. I think he'd be
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: a plus plus defender. But I can tell you, if
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at the Red Sox, the best the Lignement
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: is going to be Pregnant at third base. Move Devers
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: to first base, and open up a pathway for Christian
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Campbell to play second base, and let Tristan casss dh.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: That's gonna be the best alignment. Not that they can't
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: win with Devers at third and Bregnant at second and
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Casses at first, because they can. But you're gonna be
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: watching that team all year and you're gonna say to yourself,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: you've got two guys that are out of position out
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: of the four. That's what you're gonna say. It's gonna
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: be the same thing we said about the Padres, and
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Bob Melvin was running them right, and he had Bogarts
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: at short and Kim at second, and we all kept
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: looking on the field going no, no, no, no. Kim
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: needs to be a short and Bogarts needs to be
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: at second. Mike Schilt comes in aligns it that way,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: and they end up last year, what being the second
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: best team in baseball to the Dodgers. So I just
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: think it's important that Alex Corr calls in Rock the
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: old Devers and does the best way of convincing him, Hey,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: we need you to go to first base, not just
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: short term, but long term. It's gonna be the best
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: position for you. That way, we get pregnant to won
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: the Gold Glove, gets to stay at his position at
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: third base, and gives us a better chance to win
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: and helps our pitching staff.
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: You need to listen to Jay because JB was on
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: here for if you haven't seen you, if you haven't
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: seen JB on here as a fan, he said before
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: Bregman's either going to go for one of three things,
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: and the one thing hit on perfectly. He made the
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: forty million dollars.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: I get it.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: Someone has deferred all that stuff. It's a record, And
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: so if you want to listen to who knows what's
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: going to happen. JB's the guy. But I have to
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: ask you a question. Did you ever have a celebration
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: after signing somebody like this type of celebration that John
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: Henry had and what was that moment? Because John Henry's
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: wife posted a picture of him with his cigar that
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: we talked about yesterday on Instagram. Did you ever have
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: a moment like this?
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: No, I never did this cigar thing. The only time
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: I ever smoked a cigar was when we won the
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: World Series in ninety and I got into the waterfall
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: at the Park fifty five hotel in San Francisco. We
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: had swept the Oakland A's and I got in the
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: waterfall with lou Penella and was smoking cigars. That's the
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: only kind of celebration with cigar. But I will tell
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: you when the King Griffy Junior trade went down, there
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: was champagne popping everywhere, and yeah that included being poured
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: on my head. That was the only time I ever
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: really celebrated a move. Nice. There you go.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Okay, I got a few other things to hit with JB.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Let's take us to the other big signing that got
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: really overshadowed but would have dominated the headlines at least
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: for a day or two. Nick Pivetta signs with the Padres.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Were you surprised that the Padres not only were able
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: to do an addition after there was so much talk
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: about the budget constraints, but that they were able to
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: talk him into such a unique contract structure that really
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: pays him pebbles for what he could be worth to
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: the rotation in year one and it's kind of deferred
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: to year two.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: So once they got the control person settled by Major
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: League Baseball in Peter Sidler's brother was named the control person.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: That allowed him to be able to go forward with
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: AJ Preller and give him some freedom to add a
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: little bit of payroll. And of course AJ had to
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: get a little creative and three million dollars signing bonus
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: one million up front on the fifty five million dollar
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: deal to help them for this year. So he got
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: creative to get it done, and the ownership gave him
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: that freedom. Look, Nick Pivetta and his agent made a
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: huge mistake. They were offered twenty point nine million on
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: a one year contract and they rejected it. How did
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: world you reject that? And now he's going to pay
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: the price. I mean, now the AAD is what you know,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: just ten or eleven million a year, and you could
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: have had twenty in the front year and then gone
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: back in the market next year. That was a big mistake.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: So anyway, Pavetta did the right thing, which is you
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: gotta pivot, You gotta admit you made a mistake. You
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: can't cry over the mistake. You got to go out
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: there and get the best possible deal you can get
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: for the most money because you're turned down twenty So
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: he did that and he's gonna end up Okay. He's
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: in a good spot for the rest of his life. Here.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Now for the Padre, they get a back of the
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: rotation starter. They're not gonna have Joe Musgrove all year,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: So he becomes that fourth guy, right, Dylan Cease one,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Michael King two, you Darvis three. Now Nick Pavetta becomes
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: the fourth guy. And he's a guy that can win
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: double digits. He can pitch one hundred and sixty to
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty innings, which extremely important this day
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: and age, and he's going to do it at a
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: good value. No, I'm being told that although the Padres
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: listened the entire offseason on offers for Dylan Cease and
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Michael King, I'm being told they never got an offer
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: they liked. They never got an offer that they were considering,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: and that now they're ready to go and try to
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: you know, win the division or win a wild card
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: and try to get back to the playoffs. And look,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: this is something they can revisit in July if things
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: go south and all of a sudden they're not a
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: playoff team, they can sit there and talk trade at
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: that point. But for now, it looks like that's going
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: to be the rotation to start the year in San Diego.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: I love everything about that.
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: I'm looking at your newest article. You wrote a list
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: of teams, best trades, best teams, best acquisitions, least improved teams,
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: and you got the Padres on there right now. Does
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: this sway your decision to change it a little bit,
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: or or that you're stuck with this you can't change
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: this anymore.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: No.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, look, I'm kind of disappointed, right. I mean,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: I thought that Hasung Kim was so important defensively a shortstop.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: I thought Jerk said Profar had that breakout year, you know,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: and obviously paid dividends, made his first All Star game.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: I would have liked to see them bring both of
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: them back. You know. I like the Padres, don't get
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: me wrong, but I think they're now the third best
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: team in the West. I think it's Dodgers, Diamondbacks, and
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: then Padres because I think the Diamondbacks signing Corbyn Burns
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: makes their rotation seven deep puts them in a good position.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: I think we'll see Corbyn Carroll have a bounce back year.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: I think by June, Jordan Lawler will be a third
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: base and Soarez will be d h and Lawler will
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: be an impactful guy down the stretch. So I just
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: like where Arizona is and I wanted to see San
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Diego do more. There's still time, right There's still time
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: for adjustments. But right now I see him as the
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: third place team in the West.
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: What do you know about the Rendon situation? Obviously we've
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: seen him play not play, but like there's so many
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: things surrounding for me that like he's now having hip surgery,
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: like like it just he didn't know that this was coming,
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: or he just did he just get hurt. Does a
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: team have insurance on his contract? Is that a normal
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: regular thing? Because we hear about the Strausburg contract. They
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: weren't able to get it, they still went through with it.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know why they haven't released the player.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: It must be Arty Moreno. Obviously, Perry Mansion didn't sign him.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: It was done by Billy Eppler before he got there,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: and Arty Moreno signed off on his player should have
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: been released two years ago. He can't play. He's done.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: He can't play when he's healthy. He can't play when
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: he's not healthy. It's been one of the biggest busts
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: of any free agent signing in this era. It's been
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: a total disaster. And I said this, and the people
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: in Washington and didn't like it when I said the
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Nationals shouldn't resign him, and they're like, how can you
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: say that. We just won the World Series. This guy
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: was a top five MVP because he doesn't like baseball.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: It's like JD. Drew. They don't love baseball. They play
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: because it's a job. It's worked for him, but there's
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: no incentive past that. Look, he could really hit in
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: his prime. He always had injury prone when he came
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: up with Seattley, he was injury prone when he was drafted.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: He did have a nice little snapshot of a career.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: But you know, you've got to be careful with these
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: guys that get into their thirties and you sign free
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: agent contracts because a lot of these guys don't work out.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: It takes a special work ethic and a special human
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: being to be able to keep yourself in top condition
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: throughout your thirties to be able to play late in
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: your thirties, And the way I look at Rendon, I
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: don't want to waste my time or voice or energy.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: I don't think we'll ever see him play a game again.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: I don't. If they want to put him on the
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: emergency IL and keep paying them, that's fine, they can
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: do that. I would release the player and just move on.
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: I'm so with you.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Ja Be been saying it for a while now, and
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: I'm like, if there's anything to karma, if you just
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: get the name off the roster, I feel like they
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: improve right away, you.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: It's just it's always a stain, and it's always something
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: that actually kind of dominates the headlines around the team.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: When you're like, can we talk about zach Netto, Can
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: we talk about Logano Hoppy? Can we talk about Trout
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: coming back? It's just negative.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna know what I learned. You know, I
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: learned Scott as a GM, and I learned it early
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: when you make a mistake as a GM or an
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: owner or or manager, whoever's making the personnel decision. If
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: you make a mistake, the worst thing you can do
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: is to keep looking at the mistake. Just move on.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: We're all going to make mistakes. Players aren't going to
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: live up to our expectations. That's going to happen. Or
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: you just made a bad trade or a bad free
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: agent signing and it's on you. Either way doesn't matter.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: You don't have to keep looking at it. And you know,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: sometimes an owner will sit there and go, wow, we
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: got to pay this guy X amount. Okay, but if
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: you can't before, we can't play. We made a mistake.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: We just have to admit to it and then move
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: on because your team will always be better the sooner
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: you move on from a mistake than looking at it.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: It's going to be better for the culture of the team,
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  Speaker 1: the performance of the team, and it's going to be
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: better for the player too.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: To be honest, right, sometimes I feel like the team,
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: you know, looks at the contract, looks at what the
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: player's done.
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  Speaker 1: But in this case, he hasn't done anything for you,
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  Speaker 1: So just move.
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  Speaker 2: On, you know, Like I think I think the Chris
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Taylor case is a little more interesting, and they gave
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: him a lot of leeway, and I think it could
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: come to a head in this spring training. I think
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Pahes should be on the big league roster. I don't
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: know if you want to jump in there, because I
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: do want to get to your article in a sect two,
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: but I think that's a little more delicate. I'm like
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: with Rendon, I don't get it. I know that he's
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: getting paid a lot of money, but the career's done.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: So I'm with you there, all right. Let me get
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: to your article if I can, because I wanted to
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: spend the last couple of minutes with you to show
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: everyone what you just put out in the Athletic. And
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: obviously they can get a lot more info there and
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: check out the article give it a click. But can
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: you give us at least you know one or two
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  Speaker 2: teasers in there that you really liked. I think we
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: have it if we can show it. So going over
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: some best case scenarios, four teams, best trade for one team,
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: best value signing, best and worst overall, I was looking
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: for the right words best and worst of this year's
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: MLB off season.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think what's kind of fun for
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: me to do is just kind of look at, Okay, well,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: what was the best trade for one team and what
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: was the best trade for both teams? Right? I mean
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: for one team. I really liked the Kyle Tucker trade
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: for the Cubs. Yeah, you gave up your first round
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: pick for this year and east soak paratus. Who has
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: some power, But to be able to get Kyle Tucker
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  Speaker 1: to be your right fielder when you have a chance
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  Speaker 1: to win the division, I thought that was a really
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: great trade for the Chicago Cubs. But trades are also
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: supposed to work for both sides, right, And I think
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: the trade that I thought was the best trade for
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: both sides was the trade the Chicago White Sox and
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: the Boston Red Sox made that sent Garrett Crochet to Boston,
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  Speaker 1: giving them a number one type starting pitcher and a
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: pitcher they controlled for two years and we'll have an
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: opportunity to sign him long term. But I thought the
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: White Sox and Chris Gets did a good job in
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: what they got in return. They got a long term
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  Speaker 1: solution to catcher. Kyle Teeal. I've seen a lot of them.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: I think he's a twenty home run thirty five forty
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  Speaker 1: double offensive catcher that's going to be very good at
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: calling games for the young pitching staff in Chicago. Braden
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Montgomery was the Red Sox number one pick this year.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: He's a right fielder. I got to spend a lot
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: of time with him during the draft last year. Love
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: his makeup, love the character. He's an athlete, and he's
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: got tremendous power and should be a long term solution
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: in right field for the White Sox when he gets there.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: And they got a couple of the mid level prospects too.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: But yeah, the article just basically looked at the off
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: season in a way of just kind of breaking down
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: all the different superlatives. I also have another article out
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: today that ranks all thirty teams in baseball as of today,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: including several surprises, like my take that the Texas Rangers
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: are the second best team in the American League right now. Oo.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: I like to lead it.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: Wow, I love that my leading. My leading was gonna
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: be about your your under the radar move. What's the
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: best under the radar move that you saw this offseason?
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: What was?
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  Speaker 3: What?
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Do you guys have? The article there, I forget with
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: I have it all.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: It was Jake Jake Berger move froh.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't hit it hitter.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Thinking of the Rangers, yes, I love that deal because
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: they didn't give up any top prospects. So the package
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: was mid level guys going back, and here's an upgrade
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: at first base with power.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: I was talking to Chris Young in September, right, and
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: he said to me, one of the things he learned
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: this year, of course he was brought up with pitching
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: in defense. He said, one thing I learned is you
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: gotta have power in twenty twenty four, twenty twenty five,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: you're gonna win. And he said, I gotta go out
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: there and find a way to add even more power
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  Speaker 1: to my lineup. So he makes that trade or Jake
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Berger didn't give up a lot, and that's a thirty
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: home run bat to sit there and plug in first
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  Speaker 1: base to replace Nathaniel Lowe as a fifteen home run bat.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: He also went out and got Jock Peterson, who, as
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: we know, against writing and pitching, he's good for another
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: twenty five home runs there. So I mean, this is
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: a team that just added fifty to fifty five homers
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: to the bottom of their lineup and really extended the lineup.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: And that's what you're gonna have. Langford's gonna be better
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: his second year, Evan Carter is going to be impactful.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: They're going to get Josh youngback. I mean, this lineup
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: and they're only a year removed from the World Championship
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: as we all remember, but this lineup is going to
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: be tough to navigate. And I thought the Burger pickup
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: was a really good under the radar move.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good one Berger and Jock. That's a lot
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: of extra thump. I'm a big fan.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, JB.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: Great to have you on everyone. Check out the two articles.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Our team behind the scenes got real fancy for you
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: on your way out too, So we're excited to have
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: you at Resident GM.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Jim Bowden, Yeah,