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- 0:12Speaker 1: He's out.
- 0:12Speaker 2: Let's get the latest.
- 0:13Speaker 3: I'll make Utah Jazz with former Jazz assistant coach Gordion Chiasa.
- 0:17Speaker 2: He's forgotten more about the NBA than any of us
- 0:20Speaker 2: will ever know.
- 0:21Speaker 1: Let's not get crazy. Come for the.
- 0:22Speaker 4: Hoops talk, stay for his list of the day and
- 0:25Speaker 4: listen today here's o C with Basketball sob on Gordon
- 0:29Speaker 4: Chiasa on the Shan O'Connell Show.
- 0:34Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Shan O'Connell Show.
- 0:36Speaker 3: Welcome in Gordon Chiasa, our resident NBA guru.
- 0:40Speaker 2: By the way, it's a National Bagel day.
- 0:42Speaker 3: Head down to NATO's Bagels, six sixty eight East Union
- 0:45Speaker 3: Square in Sandy, Utah, the old stopping grounds of yours,
- 0:48Speaker 3: truly God's country. I like to call it authentic New
- 0:52Speaker 3: York Babel bagels and New York Bagels sandwiches, as the
- 0:57Speaker 3: owner likes to say, we would call them sandwiches. You've
- 1:00Speaker 3: heard his commercial. He says sandwiches. They are incredibly authentic.
- 1:04Speaker 3: Down at NATO's Bagels, six sixty eight East Union Square
- 1:07Speaker 3: in Sandy.
- 1:10Speaker 2: We were talking about this off air.
- 1:11Speaker 3: Gordy, obviously you could tell by his accent, knows the
- 1:15Speaker 3: thing or two about a New York bagel.
- 1:17Speaker 1: Yes, I do, Hi, Sean very much.
- 1:19Speaker 4: You know, bagels are part of the culture back in
- 1:22Speaker 4: New York in New Jersey absolutely, and people argue over
- 1:25Speaker 4: who is the best bagels. Yes, whether it's the guy
- 1:28Speaker 4: from Midtown Manhattan or the guy from Cliffside Park, New
- 1:30Speaker 4: Jersey or the guy from Brooklyn. And it's an art form.
- 1:34Speaker 4: And yes, I know, I've had many bagels in my life.
- 1:38Speaker 4: As a matter of fact. You know, my family relatives
- 1:42Speaker 4: sometimes when they're in New York City, they get up
- 1:44Speaker 4: at five thirty in the morning to order the bagels.
- 1:47Speaker 4: So they walk into the bagel shop on say, fifty
- 1:50Speaker 4: seventh Street in Midtown Manhattan. They get to order right
- 1:54Speaker 4: away as the owner throws the order at them and
- 1:57Speaker 4: they have to catch it in mid air and then
- 1:59Speaker 4: go to work that day.
- 2:01Speaker 3: So when you talk to people from back East and
- 2:04Speaker 3: New Yorker specifically about well, come on, because you got
- 2:08Speaker 3: to be skeptical if you're not all the way, if
- 2:10Speaker 3: you're not indoctrinated to it, right, Like, Okay, I get it,
- 2:13Speaker 3: your bagels are the best, but why should they be better?
- 2:16Speaker 3: Are you using different flour? A lot of them will say, no,
- 2:20Speaker 3: it's the water. It's the New York water.
- 2:21Speaker 2: Whatever.
- 2:22Speaker 3: What theory do you prescribe to Gordy that separates New
- 2:26Speaker 3: York bagels from the rest of our mortal bagels?
- 2:31Speaker 1: Love?
- 2:31Speaker 4: Okay, it's the love of the of the baker, the
- 2:35Speaker 4: love of it. He's it's a recipe that he's perfected,
- 2:39Speaker 4: usually generational, and that's why it's great. And so if
- 2:43Speaker 4: you're in New York and New Jersey, iight, the three
- 2:45Speaker 4: things that are absolutely cultural bagels, pizza, and New York
- 2:50Speaker 4: style cheesecake. Oh those three people have arguments what's better?
- 2:57Speaker 4: Who has the best pizza, cheesecake or bagels in the city?
- 3:02Speaker 4: And to a metro New Jersey, New York end of
- 3:05Speaker 4: a fight, and it's.
- 3:07Speaker 3: Got to be a you gotta be able to be
- 3:08Speaker 3: ordered by the slice. If we're talking about New York pizza.
- 3:11Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, he gets right, and it's a whole pie.
- 3:13Speaker 2: Come on, what are we talking about not New York.
- 3:15Speaker 4: And a New York style cheesecake? Oh my, that is
- 3:20Speaker 4: a whole different thing.
- 3:21Speaker 2: Are you a cheesecake guy? Yeah? I try.
- 3:23Speaker 4: I tempted my enthusiasm, so I have it. Usually on average,
- 3:27Speaker 4: I don't want to exaggerate only three times a year.
- 3:29Speaker 4: And that's by design, all right, by design only, otherwise
- 3:33Speaker 4: I get the whole thing.
- 3:35Speaker 2: I know that portion control problem.
- 3:37Speaker 3: You heard what we were talking about, Gordy before we
- 3:39Speaker 3: brought you in about the I guess the hierarchy of
- 3:42Speaker 3: importance and where and I effectively payroll fits.
- 3:47Speaker 2: And you've been.
- 3:48Speaker 3: Around pro sports a long time, you've been watching college
- 3:50Speaker 3: basketball since before most of us were born, and you've
- 3:53Speaker 3: seen all these changes.
- 3:55Speaker 2: So where would you put it?
- 3:57Speaker 3: Like the NIL the spending, the ability to provide from
- 4:02Speaker 3: a financial standpoint for college athletes specific, and then we'll
- 4:05Speaker 3: get into how it's different or the same in the
- 4:08Speaker 3: NBA and another pro sports. But your payroll from an
- 4:11Speaker 3: NIL endorsement perspective, however you get that money, how much
- 4:17Speaker 3: should that be contributing to your ability to win? If
- 4:19Speaker 3: it can't be the most important thing in my mind,
- 4:21Speaker 3: but it's darn near the most important thing.
- 4:23Speaker 1: Yeah, very much so.
- 4:24Speaker 4: The way I listened right now would be one by
- 4:26Speaker 4: far is coaching absolutely, Because coaching in those close games,
- 4:31Speaker 4: whether it's football, whether it's basketball, whether it's baseball, et cetera,
- 4:36Speaker 4: is that coaching absolutely. The little things the nuances why
- 4:40Speaker 4: players overachieve and why they win close battles. Second, now
- 4:45Speaker 4: in this generation, as it will say twenty twenty one,
- 4:49Speaker 4: is by far nl money because you need talent, and
- 4:52Speaker 4: so now private equity is involved. And it's only the
- 4:54Speaker 4: beginning of it. We've only touched the first basis of it,
- 4:58Speaker 4: and it's going to get much further and further and
- 5:01Speaker 4: further out. Three is culture, and part of culture when
- 5:04Speaker 4: you walk in that building and or a practice facility,
- 5:07Speaker 4: there is a certain amount of respect and discipline that
- 5:11Speaker 4: the winning programs have. And the last one is is
- 5:15Speaker 4: player development. Is that so you get so your coaching
- 5:19Speaker 4: is good, you have a whole bunch of money, the
- 5:21Speaker 4: culture is good, and now those guys that are underdeveloped
- 5:25Speaker 4: as far as usually physically and you get them stronger, quicker,
- 5:30Speaker 4: and more athletic, and then you work on their skills
- 5:32Speaker 4: and you're able to become major contributors or absolute difference makers.
- 5:36Speaker 4: And the last point about it is that all the
- 5:39Speaker 4: above is that the first four things and the last
- 5:43Speaker 4: thing you do need is what a thing called chemistry.
- 5:47Speaker 4: So you can have everything going fear, But the star
- 5:49Speaker 4: players think they're stars and affects all the group, and
- 5:54Speaker 4: so chemistry is this most underrated thing in sports. And
- 5:58Speaker 4: when the different makers are team orientated, wow, your team
- 6:04Speaker 4: can be champions at every level.
- 6:06Speaker 3: The chemistry thing is actually for me one of the
- 6:08Speaker 3: most important as we're in this nil era, because I
- 6:12Speaker 3: don't know how you maintain elite team chemistry and a
- 6:16Speaker 3: college program when there's guys who are making nothing, which
- 6:20Speaker 3: is not the case in pro sports, like truly zero
- 6:23Speaker 3: beside their scholarship, and I guess for walk Ons they
- 6:26Speaker 3: got zero zero. And then you've got guys like Dante
- 6:29Speaker 3: Moore is making the seven and a half million bucks,
- 6:32Speaker 3: like those dynamics I think would be hard to coach.
- 6:38Speaker 4: Yes, all right, so now comes down to individual respect
- 6:45Speaker 4: for your teammates and floormates. Basketball is floormates, in football
- 6:50Speaker 4: is fieldmates, and other sports and your teammates are there,
- 6:54Speaker 4: so that you've got to respect your teammates as equals,
- 6:58Speaker 4: even though you're getting paid more money. And that's when
- 7:02Speaker 4: you get them involved as far as decision making. You
- 7:05Speaker 4: got your way to really talk to them about things
- 7:08Speaker 4: on the field and off the field, and generally speaking,
- 7:11Speaker 4: you're sincere about their interests even though you're the highest
- 7:15Speaker 4: paid performer in the locker room, you really have an
- 7:18Speaker 4: interest in everyone else. And that's part of it, because
- 7:20Speaker 4: you're a leader. Leadership is not only on the field.
- 7:24Speaker 4: It's twenty four to seven, and that's why it changes.
- 7:26Speaker 4: And we see in the NFL right now, I'm assuming
- 7:29Speaker 4: Sean that most of those quarterbacks and the final eight
- 7:32Speaker 4: teams in this weekend, those guys are all leaders, both
- 7:35Speaker 4: on the field, in the locker room, above sea level
- 7:38Speaker 4: thirty five thousand feet on a charter plane, and also
- 7:42Speaker 4: when you're when you're entering the bus before a game.
- 7:45Speaker 4: And these are all things that we lived this life,
- 7:47Speaker 4: so that we've seen it firsthand how white teams have
- 7:50Speaker 4: chemistry and why they don't, or it's slipping because so
- 7:54Speaker 4: and so thinks the more important than the group.
- 7:56Speaker 3: Dramatically, it's inter I used to work in bars and
- 8:00Speaker 3: clubs downtown while I was in college and stuff, and
- 8:03Speaker 3: the jazz would come through, right. I got to see
- 8:06Speaker 3: some of these guys in their young years when they
- 8:08Speaker 3: were out clubing and partying and things like that, and
- 8:10Speaker 3: I never I didn't really put much thought into it
- 8:13Speaker 3: at the time other than, wow, that's a big bar
- 8:15Speaker 3: tab that guy's picking up. But it was customary, it seemed,
- 8:18Speaker 3: at least for the biggest star who happened to be
- 8:22Speaker 3: at the club that night to pay the tab. That
- 8:26Speaker 3: the guy who was the highest compensated or the highest
- 8:30Speaker 3: profile player when he and his friends were hanging out
- 8:33Speaker 3: and ordering bottle service to the table, that's the guy
- 8:37Speaker 3: who we brought the bill to. And when you think
- 8:40Speaker 3: about it from this perspective, it's that that wasn't just
- 8:43Speaker 3: to flex and say I'm the highest paid guy, I'm
- 8:46Speaker 3: the rich guy. I guess if you're the highest paid dude,
- 8:48Speaker 3: you want to treat your teammates so that they know
- 8:51Speaker 3: that it maintains a respectful atmosphere and it's not something
- 8:55Speaker 3: that you're lording over them necessarily, but you're allowing them
- 8:59Speaker 3: to benefit from you or contract as well.
- 9:01Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, very much.
- 9:02Speaker 4: Also, Hey, in the NFL, we've all seen stories about
- 9:05Speaker 4: the star quarterback. He pays money to the lineman. Yeah,
- 9:09Speaker 4: but he buys them extra, unbelievable gifts. He buys their
- 9:12Speaker 4: wives or girlfriends or others gifts as far as that.
- 9:15Speaker 4: Because thank you for protecting me, for sure, thank you
- 9:18Speaker 4: to backup left tackle, I appreciate it. Thank you that
- 9:22Speaker 4: you are diligent about your job. Your footwork is a superior.
- 9:26Speaker 4: You're not gonna have it holding penalties. Thank you for
- 9:28Speaker 4: my blindside. I appreciate it, so does my loved ones.
- 9:31Speaker 2: There was actually I think it was Joe Burrow.
- 9:33Speaker 3: There was a great story a couple last week, a
- 9:34Speaker 3: week ago, maybe two weeks ago, that Joe Burrow brought
- 9:38Speaker 3: his lineman over and he collects fossils, and he said,
- 9:40Speaker 3: you guys can each have a fossil, which for me
- 9:42Speaker 3: would be one of the coolest gifts I imagine for
- 9:45Speaker 3: all them that someone We're like, why would I want that?
- 9:47Speaker 3: But kind of neat. We got to take a break.
- 9:50Speaker 3: The hot lunch is coming. Gordon's gonna hang out with
- 9:52Speaker 3: us for the whole hour. We're gonna have some fun.
- 9:54Speaker 3: We haven't even gotten into the Jazz or the NBA
- 9:56Speaker 3: really yet. But when you have a guy who's been
- 9:58Speaker 3: around sports as long as already has, you pick his
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- 10:44Speaker 2: We show our.
- 11:00Speaker 3: Number two, Gordy Chiasa here brought to you by a
- 11:04Speaker 3: Latin Industries or Utah Vlux dealer, Gordy. Before we get
- 11:08Speaker 3: to the NBA All Star Game in a changed format,
- 11:11Speaker 3: let's talk a little Utah jazz.
- 11:14Speaker 2: What'd you make of the performance last night?
- 11:18Speaker 4: Legendary masterpiece show was alluding to right now, Bryce Censerball
- 11:23Speaker 4: who scored forty three points, including twenty one points in
- 11:26Speaker 4: the first quarter, which is a record, and shown the
- 11:30Speaker 4: former record that Bryce broke last night was done was
- 11:33Speaker 4: done by a guy named Lance Stephenson and Shawn. His
- 11:37Speaker 4: nickname was Born Ready. Now of course it was self annointed,
- 11:43Speaker 4: of course it was but Born Ready Lance Stevenson. Where
- 11:46Speaker 4: Lance scored twenty points in the first quarter on January fifth,
- 11:50Speaker 4: twenty twenty two, and when Bryce did. He came into
- 11:53Speaker 4: the game and right away Impactville quickly, and his the
- 11:56Speaker 4: metrics fifteen for twenty two from the field, five to
- 11:59Speaker 4: ten from three, these five rebounds and two assist in
- 12:02Speaker 4: thirty four minutes and his forty three points for the
- 12:07Speaker 4: game is also, as we speak right now, the most
- 12:10Speaker 4: off the bench performance this year by an NBA player. Unfortunately,
- 12:15Speaker 4: the Jazz lost in a really hard Ford game one
- 12:18Speaker 4: twenty eight to one twenty six, and the Jazz didn't
- 12:22Speaker 4: play some of their guys. Again without objectively I'm trying
- 12:26Speaker 4: to be objective, is that if usif Knirkerche were to have
- 12:28Speaker 4: played Nick Vussevich, we all like he had thirty five
- 12:31Speaker 4: points when he got those points in his rebounds, and
- 12:34Speaker 4: so they missed use of Nurkriche they missed him badly
- 12:38Speaker 4: on the boards.
- 12:39Speaker 1: They also didn't play uh. They also didn't play his illness.
- 12:43Speaker 4: As far as Larry marketing, he did not perform as
- 12:46Speaker 4: far as playing and it set him back some. So
- 12:48Speaker 4: tonight the Jazz played tonight in Dallas. Dallas lost last
- 12:51Speaker 4: night at home to the unbelievable Denver Nuggets, who are
- 12:55Speaker 4: playing shorthanded also and now so the Jazz are going
- 12:58Speaker 4: to play tonight in hoop of flag showing last night's
- 13:02Speaker 4: sprained ankle during the game, so we'll see if he
- 13:05Speaker 4: placed tonight versus the Jazz. Last night Jazz loose. Hopefully
- 13:09Speaker 4: they can turn around tonight and get a win tonight.
- 13:12Speaker 3: Let it be a lesson to you, Dallas Mavericks, do
- 13:14Speaker 3: not do not commit a flagrant foul on Bryce Sensiba
- 13:18Speaker 3: early in the game, or he's going to go off
- 13:20Speaker 3: for forty three points.
- 13:22Speaker 2: Yes, we saw that against the Bulls.
- 13:24Speaker 3: All right, go back, they reevaluate, ends up, the foul
- 13:29Speaker 3: gets upgraded like who was it ended up pulling on
- 13:31Speaker 3: his shoulder a little bit.
- 13:32Speaker 2: Yeah, could have been a dangerous right.
- 13:34Speaker 3: You don't want to create that top heavy angle on
- 13:37Speaker 3: guys when they're airborne, so they upgrade it flagrant.
- 13:40Speaker 1: Won.
- 13:40Speaker 3: Bryce Sensiba goes off after that, So be careful what
- 13:44Speaker 3: you wish for with Bryce.
- 13:45Speaker 4: Very much, and also be careful you wish for is
- 13:48Speaker 4: also County George, who's playing tremendous. So as Bryce had
- 13:51Speaker 4: this outrageous first quarter, Chiunty had a masterpiece as far
- 13:56Speaker 4: as in the fourth quarter, where he scored fifteen points,
- 14:00Speaker 4: including fifteen points, which added to his twenty eight point
- 14:03Speaker 4: performance last night. Eight to seventeen from the field, and
- 14:06Speaker 4: he had he had seven assists, and so it's a
- 14:10Speaker 4: it was really a really good performance. The Jazz shot
- 14:13Speaker 4: fifty five percent for the game and loss, so that's troubling. Well,
- 14:17Speaker 4: the bull shot fifty one percent and they won. Now
- 14:20Speaker 4: the Jazz now tonight's game quickly. As far as a
- 14:24Speaker 4: segue to it is that the Jazz beating the Mavericks
- 14:27Speaker 4: right now twice, they're ready to share.
- 14:29Speaker 1: So the two and zero.
- 14:30Speaker 4: The Jazz played tonight in Dallas and also Saturday afternoons
- 14:34Speaker 4: shown again in Dallas, So they're going to be in
- 14:36Speaker 4: Big D for the next three days. And I don't
- 14:39Speaker 4: mean Dallas Cowboys either.
- 14:41Speaker 2: Uh.
- 14:42Speaker 3: There were a couple of possessions consecutively where Keyante was
- 14:47Speaker 3: just you're kind of playing hero ball early in the game. Now, look,
- 14:51Speaker 3: he's been incredible. I'm not trying to pile on a
- 14:55Speaker 3: guy who obviously is really having a sort of I
- 14:57Speaker 3: don't know if you'd call it a renaissance here, but
- 14:59Speaker 3: it's a breakout year at least. How do you coach
- 15:03Speaker 3: a guy who's been hot wants to stay hot when
- 15:06Speaker 3: he's he's giving you a couple of kind of really
- 15:09Speaker 3: bad possessions in a very very winnable game. You don't
- 15:12Speaker 3: want to smash his confidence, I imagine, but you also
- 15:16Speaker 3: I mean there were three trips down the floor where
- 15:18Speaker 3: as soon as the ball touched it touched his hands,
- 15:21Speaker 3: he was a ball stopper. He was just like, I'm
- 15:22Speaker 3: keeping this and he was giving up. You know, he's
- 15:25Speaker 3: putting up these off ballance shots and things like that.
- 15:27Speaker 3: It has been uncharacteristic and all of them were missed
- 15:31Speaker 3: and they were rebounds for the bulls the other way.
- 15:34Speaker 3: It's a little microcosm, but how do you snap somebody
- 15:37Speaker 3: out of that or how do you coach him out
- 15:39Speaker 3: of that?
- 15:39Speaker 4: Well, at the moments I split second where you want
- 15:42Speaker 4: to be with ball confidence, but also you want to
- 15:44Speaker 4: have shared the ball. So what you do that is
- 15:48Speaker 4: that during the time out you would say to him,
- 15:51Speaker 4: we want you to be aggressive, but first move the
- 15:54Speaker 4: ball first. So instead of coming down and have no
- 15:58Speaker 4: one else touching the ball and you're going one on one,
- 16:01Speaker 4: we always tell the players, let's go organize one on
- 16:04Speaker 4: one where the ball swunk to you in space and
- 16:07Speaker 4: that's a great time. The defenses is sliding over the
- 16:10Speaker 4: lake getting there as far as in coverage, as far
- 16:12Speaker 4: as health defense, and you have a much easier chance
- 16:15Speaker 4: to get to the top of the basket. So you try
- 16:17Speaker 4: to get to his senses and calm him down. Usually speaking,
- 16:20Speaker 4: most young players showing play offense too fast and defense
- 16:24Speaker 4: too slow. So at that moment you're alluding to he's
- 16:27Speaker 4: playing offense way way too fast. Even though you love
- 16:29Speaker 4: his confidence and he did deliver a later run in
- 16:32Speaker 4: the game, you want him to play bit more U
- 16:34Speaker 4: measured at that time.
- 16:36Speaker 3: Talking NBA with Gordy Chiza here on ESPN seven hundred
- 16:39Speaker 3: and ninety two one FM, we've got Warriors Nicks on
- 16:42Speaker 3: the station. Tonight coverage starts at seven point thirty. Tip
- 16:46Speaker 3: off is at eight o'clock right here on ESPN seven
- 16:48Speaker 3: hundred and ninety two one FM. Jonathan Kaminga has demanded
- 16:52Speaker 3: a trade from the Warriors, so we talked about that
- 16:55Speaker 3: all offseason.
- 16:55Speaker 2: Gordy, what's gonna happen there?
- 16:58Speaker 3: Are they going to find the right I guess agreement
- 17:01Speaker 3: and that's gone sour.
- 17:03Speaker 4: Yes, it has very much. They try to have it
- 17:06Speaker 4: work out and it is not so Johnathan Kaminga, who's
- 17:10Speaker 4: really a major young talent. Remember they drafted him, and
- 17:13Speaker 4: so usually speaking to draft somebody, you don't want to
- 17:17Speaker 4: trade them. This is his fifth season in the NBA
- 17:20Speaker 4: and he was picking number seven back in twenty twenty one,
- 17:24Speaker 4: and this just shows you that it has not worked out.
- 17:28Speaker 4: So between now and the trading deadline, which is Thursday,
- 17:31Speaker 4: February fifth, they're going to trade him.
- 17:34Speaker 1: Now.
- 17:34Speaker 4: The problem is gonna be they're not gonna get equal
- 17:37Speaker 4: value for him, and so the Warriors are gonna make
- 17:40Speaker 4: a value judgment where addition by subtraction and his new
- 17:43Speaker 4: team will embrace him with open arms as far as
- 17:46Speaker 4: this guy that has talent, and usually speaking, we need
- 17:50Speaker 4: more scoring for lesser teams and that's what he's gonna
- 17:53Speaker 4: provide for them. So it has not worked out. They're
- 17:56Speaker 4: gonna try to move him, and I'm sure it's gonna
- 17:59Speaker 4: be a process.
- 18:00Speaker 3: Right now, who do you think are the biggest players
- 18:03Speaker 3: in the Jonathan Kaminga market?
- 18:08Speaker 4: Bulls Bulls could go after him as far as trying
- 18:11Speaker 4: to get him any the Magic could try to get
- 18:15Speaker 4: him also as far as try that. The Bucks also
- 18:19Speaker 4: will be a major player as far as the Bucks
- 18:21Speaker 4: right out over underachieving right now to seventeen to twenty three,
- 18:24Speaker 4: So they're gonna, they're gonna they're going to move players around,
- 18:28Speaker 4: and it's very possible that you know, Kyle Kuza could
- 18:31Speaker 4: be in play also, so it's possible you can make
- 18:34Speaker 4: a narrative with other players involved, also kaminga for Kyle Kuzma. Interesting,
- 18:39Speaker 4: you could, it's possible as far as the numbers working
- 18:42Speaker 4: out with other players involved.
- 18:44Speaker 2: You know, for Kusa, i'd like to see that.
- 18:45Speaker 3: I'd like to see him end up in the Bay
- 18:47Speaker 3: Area playing with that that Warriors team, if they could
- 18:50Speaker 3: make that work.
- 18:51Speaker 4: And the trading deadline, remember you need partners to trade,
- 18:54Speaker 4: so sometimes it might be a three way trade. Now
- 18:58Speaker 4: usually speaking now there's always an outlaw, but everyone's talking
- 19:01Speaker 4: all thirty teams, but only basically ten to twelve teams
- 19:05Speaker 4: are actively trying to trade in the off season. The
- 19:09Speaker 4: week of the NBA Draft, everybody's trying to trade assets
- 19:13Speaker 4: to move up in the draft. And so right now
- 19:17Speaker 4: some of these teams are really will make trades. And
- 19:19Speaker 4: we saw the first trade is ready with the Trey
- 19:21Speaker 4: Young being traded from the Lanta Hawks to the Washington
- 19:25Speaker 4: Wizards and sees the McCollum and Corey Kesper going from
- 19:28Speaker 4: the Wizards to the Alanta Hawks.
- 19:30Speaker 1: That's just the beginning. What about Jazz basketball and he trades.
- 19:36Speaker 4: I would say it's possible where the Jazz he's not
- 19:39Speaker 4: played this year yet, but he's shooting before games that
- 19:42Speaker 4: it's possible. George and Nyang, who's a good shooter, has value,
- 19:46Speaker 4: could be traded as far as an acid maybe a
- 19:49Speaker 4: second round pick to someone else.
- 19:51Speaker 1: As far as neath dingan shooter.
- 19:53Speaker 3: We just got the minivan back and then we could
- 19:55Speaker 3: send him out again.
- 19:55Speaker 4: That's I don't like that, but it's possible. These are
- 19:58Speaker 4: all different things that teams are gonna try to train
- 20:02Speaker 4: for a new model as far as the minivan. But
- 20:04Speaker 4: Jeorge ni Yang there's always value. You can never have
- 20:08Speaker 4: enough shooting as far as even off the bench because
- 20:10Speaker 4: Silma gets injured. So someone like George Niang on a
- 20:14Speaker 4: playoff type team, Sean, if he makes back to back
- 20:17Speaker 4: three point shots in game two of a playoff, here
- 20:20Speaker 4: hearing his whole sally hearing those there's two possessions literally
- 20:25Speaker 4: the events in the playoffs.
- 20:28Speaker 3: I could see it all right, let's talk about this
- 20:32Speaker 3: changed NBA All Star format. We've discussed it when they
- 20:36Speaker 3: announced that, Hey, we're gonna try to capture some of
- 20:39Speaker 3: this four Nations magic that we saw from the NHL
- 20:41Speaker 3: All Star Break last year.
- 20:43Speaker 2: Everybody, I mean.
- 20:44Speaker 3: People watch that more than they watched the NHL regular season,
- 20:48Speaker 3: second only to the Stanley Cup Finals in terms of
- 20:51Speaker 3: the ratings there. And I applaud the NBA's flexibility and
- 20:56Speaker 3: willingness to keep try and keep there. They're All Star
- 20:59Speaker 3: weekend interesting and relevant, and so they've adopted the same format.
- 21:03Speaker 3: But it's it's kind of interesting because basketball from a
- 21:08Speaker 3: heritage standpoint has been very much an American thing. The
- 21:11Speaker 3: NBA especially has been an American sport. That is, gradually
- 21:15Speaker 3: we've seen more international influx, and I think that this format, Gordy,
- 21:19Speaker 3: might set us up for a situation where we're like
- 21:21Speaker 3: man in the NBA specifically, the international talent has now
- 21:26Speaker 3: taken over.
- 21:27Speaker 1: That's an understatement.
- 21:29Speaker 4: So Showan's talking about right now, He's quickly is that
- 21:33Speaker 4: today ended the voting by the fans. All right, So
- 21:36Speaker 4: the conference start is voted by the fans of fifty
- 21:39Speaker 4: percent of the voting twenty five percent by current NBA
- 21:42Speaker 4: players and twenty five percent by NBA accredited media to
- 21:47Speaker 4: the words, those three groups vote for the starters, and
- 21:51Speaker 4: then the seven reserves are voted by the NBA head coaches.
- 21:57Speaker 4: This year, it's going to be in the inter With
- 22:00Speaker 4: Dome in Englewood, California, home of the LA Clippers, is
- 22:03Speaker 4: on Sunday, February fifteenth. The broadcast partners are NBC and
- 22:07Speaker 4: Peacock Streaming. So if you're if you if you have
- 22:10Speaker 4: stock in NBC, Sean O'Connell is that NBC is doing
- 22:14Speaker 4: the All Star Game.
- 22:15Speaker 1: They're doing they're doing the.
- 22:17Speaker 4: Olympics in Italy, if for as far as Winter Olympics,
- 22:20Speaker 4: and most of all they're doing right now also the
- 22:25Speaker 4: Super Bowl. So they're having a batter year as far
- 22:29Speaker 4: as they're programming.
- 22:31Speaker 1: Now.
- 22:32Speaker 4: With that said, here should be the starters. This is
- 22:37Speaker 4: me just talking. Should be the starters. We'll just go
- 22:39Speaker 4: over the starters quickly, not the reserves, and then we'll
- 22:42Speaker 4: talk about the world the World team. The Stars of
- 22:44Speaker 4: East should be Kate Cunningham, Terse Maxi, Jalen Brown, Giannis
- 22:50Speaker 4: and Jail and Jaalen Brunson and for the first time.
- 22:53Speaker 4: It's not based on position, so that's good. So there's
- 22:56Speaker 4: not yet to have no centers. It's gonna be the
- 22:58Speaker 4: five best players as far as the starters, and then
- 23:01Speaker 4: the West starters should be Cha Jos, Alexander, luk At Dantage,
- 23:09Speaker 4: Nikolai Jokic, Anthony Edwards and Victor Wenbiyamba. That should be
- 23:15Speaker 4: the starters. Now he's gonna be the World for the
- 23:18Speaker 4: first time. They're having a round robin tournament where they're
- 23:22Speaker 4: gonna be three teams East Team, West Team and the
- 23:27Speaker 4: World Team. And so before this there's only twenty four players,
- 23:32Speaker 4: twelve in the East, twelve in the West. But Adam
- 23:35Speaker 4: Silva recently said that he might add some players to
- 23:40Speaker 4: make it twenty five and twenty six as far as
- 23:42Speaker 4: total all Stars. So with that said, he could be
- 23:45Speaker 4: the World Team All Stars and his round robin tournament,
- 23:48Speaker 4: which would be three teams of twelve games twelve minutes,
- 23:52Speaker 4: twelve of twelve minutes of each of each format. As
- 23:57Speaker 4: far as the NBA game, here we are of Canada schedules.
- 24:01Speaker 4: Alexander and Jamal Murray from Canadian from France, Victor Wenbiamba
- 24:08Speaker 4: from Slovenia, Luca Dantage from Greece, Giannis from Turkey, Alpha
- 24:13Speaker 4: run Chagoon from Serbia, Nikolai Jokic from Israel, Denny Avdya
- 24:20Speaker 4: from Finland, Larry Markining and from Cameroon Pascal Siakam. So
- 24:28Speaker 4: that is some crewe as far as for the World team.
- 24:32Speaker 4: And let's get back for one second about Larry Marketing.
- 24:36Speaker 4: He should make it. Should he should be voted by
- 24:39Speaker 4: the NBA coaches to be reserved.
- 24:41Speaker 1: He shouldn't.
- 24:42Speaker 4: If not, then Adam Silva mentioned four has the right
- 24:45Speaker 4: to add one or two players. And I'm assuming that
- 24:48Speaker 4: it's going to be either. It's gonna be if not
- 24:50Speaker 4: both either or Larry Marketing or Denny Avdya, who's having
- 24:55Speaker 4: a great year for the Portland Trailblazers.
- 24:58Speaker 1: He's been tremendous. As far as him performing this.
- 25:00Speaker 3: Year, How far away is Caante George from being an
- 25:05Speaker 3: NBA All Star the way he's playing?
- 25:11Speaker 1: Soon? Yes, soon, very much.
- 25:15Speaker 4: Yeah, within the next two to three years, that would
- 25:20Speaker 4: be right there. As far as knocking on, knocking on,
- 25:22Speaker 4: as far as him making him making the All Star
- 25:26Speaker 4: team because he has enough scoring your ability, and as
- 25:29Speaker 4: far as talent. So see Jamal Murray, we all love him.
- 25:33Speaker 4: This is his first time. Jamal Murray should make the
- 25:36Speaker 4: All Star team as a reserve. So as great as
- 25:38Speaker 4: he was, he's never made the All Star team. That's
- 25:41Speaker 4: how hard. It's not a question of he's not an
- 25:43Speaker 4: All Star type caliber. There's just so many guys that
- 25:47Speaker 4: are ultra talented and there's just few spots.
- 25:50Speaker 1: So example, C J.
- 25:51Speaker 4: McCollums showing his average twenty points a game for the
- 25:54Speaker 4: last nine years, never been.
- 25:55Speaker 1: An All Star. That's how hard it is to make
- 25:58Speaker 1: the team.
- 26:01Speaker 3: Kiante George, this is a press release from the Jazz
- 26:05Speaker 3: that just came across the desk here. Keyante George is
- 26:08Speaker 3: going to be honored by his old high school, Lewisville
- 26:13Speaker 3: High School, which I suppose it kind of depends on
- 26:17Speaker 3: the relationship you have with your early days and your
- 26:19Speaker 3: neighborhood and all that kind of thing.
- 26:22Speaker 2: For me, I peaked in high.
- 26:23Speaker 3: School where were we Nothing cooler than to have my
- 26:25Speaker 3: old high school be like, hey, we're hanging your jersey
- 26:29Speaker 3: and the rafters or whatever just honoring you. I don't
- 26:32Speaker 3: know how it's gonna affect Kiante George and he's only
- 26:34Speaker 3: been out of high school for like, I don't know,
- 26:37Speaker 3: six years, so it's a little bit different for him.
- 26:39Speaker 3: But that's kind of a cool little honor.
- 26:41Speaker 4: Oh very much, absolutely, because that's your neighborhood, that's you
- 26:45Speaker 4: grew up and these are the loved ones that helped
- 26:47Speaker 4: you become an NBA player, whether it's your coach or
- 26:49Speaker 4: whether it's your teammates in high school.
- 26:52Speaker 1: And so it's a big thing.
- 26:53Speaker 4: And then Sewan even better than that, Sewan, you could
- 26:55Speaker 4: wear your lettuce sweater. Yes, yes, you know the lettuce sweater.
- 26:59Speaker 4: The young listeners right now, is that a badge of
- 27:04Speaker 4: honor is when you are able to go to school
- 27:07Speaker 4: and you get a letter sweater and these different stripes
- 27:10Speaker 4: on your sweater based on if you're varsity for how
- 27:13Speaker 4: many years? And it sounds so trivial, but when you're fifteen, sixteen,
- 27:17Speaker 4: seventeen years old and usually you you have pimples in
- 27:20Speaker 4: your face, that's a big, big thing as far as
- 27:23Speaker 4: having that, it was.
- 27:24Speaker 3: The coolest thing, right And I was born in the
- 27:27Speaker 3: wrong era because I don't it was probably not even
- 27:29Speaker 3: cool to care so much about your letterman jacket. By
- 27:32Speaker 3: the time I made it to high school, but man
- 27:34Speaker 3: making varsity as a sophomore and be ineligible for that
- 27:37Speaker 3: varsity letter when you're a you know, no, there was
- 27:41Speaker 3: only one two other guys in the grade that were
- 27:44Speaker 3: varsity in football, and so we were the only ones
- 27:47Speaker 3: who could get the letterman jackets. I was like, I
- 27:49Speaker 3: thought I was the king of the world. And then
- 27:51Speaker 3: what happens you graduate? You never get to wear it again.
- 27:55Speaker 3: I want a reason to wear it again. Well, I
- 27:57Speaker 3: might just wear it into the studio, just.
- 27:59Speaker 1: Absolutely sure and bring it in. Bring it in.
- 28:02Speaker 4: I want to see you a letterman jacket. I want
- 28:04Speaker 4: to see if you could be flexing with it.
- 28:06Speaker 3: I mean beautiful if beautiful gray leather sleeves. It's this
- 28:10Speaker 3: nice dark maroon for dear old Jordan High. I mean,
- 28:13Speaker 3: it's a beautiful piece of wardrobe and it's just been
- 28:18Speaker 3: collecting dust for twenty three years now.
- 28:20Speaker 4: But also add to that, that's a point of your
- 28:22Speaker 4: life in all players life for Kanty George, where again
- 28:26Speaker 4: there's so much of your formative years as far as
- 28:29Speaker 4: being an athlete, and that you're able to excel at
- 28:32Speaker 4: that level and that the people remember you where you
- 28:36Speaker 4: were and hopefully that you remember the people and be thankful,
- 28:40Speaker 4: and I'm sure he will be thankful of your coaches
- 28:43Speaker 4: and the principal and administrators there that helped you and
- 28:46Speaker 4: Showan you know right now, the most important person, though, Sean.
- 28:49Speaker 4: Usually speaking of a building in high school, you know
- 28:52Speaker 4: it is Sewan. It's the janitor, the custodian, because that
- 28:56Speaker 4: guy knows everything what goes on in the building more
- 29:00Speaker 4: than usually the vice principal and the principal, and then Sewan,
- 29:03Speaker 4: especially in its cold weather, that the janitor determines whether
- 29:07Speaker 4: in basketball practice you're practicing with heat in the building
- 29:11Speaker 4: as far as on the court or no heat. So Sewan,
- 29:14Speaker 4: when I was in my younger day showing I was
- 29:16Speaker 4: a college coach, I used to give the guy, the janitor,
- 29:19Speaker 4: on average, will say, four bottles a year of Cuddy
- 29:25Speaker 4: Shark to make sure that on Saturday, on our weekends
- 29:28Speaker 4: Satire Sunday, that the heat was on the gym no
- 29:31Speaker 4: matter what happens, at least two hours before we started practicing. Sean,
- 29:35Speaker 4: on average four times a year Cuddie Shark, gladly love it.
- 29:40Speaker 3: Let it be a less of all you folks out there,
- 29:42Speaker 3: just to you know, give a shout out maybe a
- 29:44Speaker 3: little gift or something to your high school janitor. They
- 29:47Speaker 3: keep things running. There's been a conversation this week about
- 29:52Speaker 3: the Memphis Grizzlies entertaining trade offers for John Morant, who's
- 29:58Speaker 3: obviously like he's the biggest star on that team, and
- 30:01Speaker 3: he's been one of the embattled stars recently in the NBA.
- 30:06Speaker 3: We facetiously were joking about send a guy like that
- 30:10Speaker 3: to a place like Salt Lake City where you can't
- 30:12Speaker 3: find the sort of trouble that he's finding himself in.
- 30:15Speaker 3: But realistically, what are the teams that might be in
- 30:18Speaker 3: the market for a star like John Moran.
- 30:21Speaker 4: He's a star, but he's also he's troubled. Here's his contract,
- 30:24Speaker 4: So you've got to find a team that's gonna move
- 30:28Speaker 4: a lot of assets to try to get him. So
- 30:31Speaker 4: here's his contract this year thirty nine point four million,
- 30:35Speaker 4: twenty six, twenty seven forty two point one million, and
- 30:38Speaker 4: twenty seven, twenty eight forty four point eight million. And
- 30:42Speaker 4: so I'm not saying that it's impossible to trade, but
- 30:45Speaker 4: it's it's unlikely right now.
- 30:49Speaker 1: As far between now and.
- 30:50Speaker 4: February fifth, there'll be more people that will be off
- 30:54Speaker 4: the books come July first, so he could be it
- 30:59Speaker 4: could you could trade him the right before the draft
- 31:02Speaker 4: and then announce it after July one of this year.
- 31:04Speaker 4: Where you get more, you get more bang for your buck.
- 31:07Speaker 4: So it's possible, but it's unlikely because of that because
- 31:10Speaker 4: of the numbers right now. It's like Anthony Davis also
- 31:12Speaker 4: the exact same thing. Remember a lot of times the
- 31:15Speaker 4: agents are talking, but the teams aren't see a lot
- 31:18Speaker 4: of it. So example, Rich paulsa recently of Clutch Sports,
- 31:23Speaker 4: which represents besides Lebron James, Anthony Davis and many many
- 31:27Speaker 4: other star players, he wants to be traded. That sounds
- 31:30Speaker 4: great in theory. But if I'm if I'm the Dallas Mavericks,
- 31:33Speaker 4: they're gonna do what's best for them because now Cooper
- 31:36Speaker 4: Flagg is the the the biggest star for them as
- 31:39Speaker 4: far as they're going through, and so they're not gonna
- 31:42Speaker 4: get You don't have to trade Anthony Davis right now,
- 31:45Speaker 4: you do not, and so they're gonna try to wait
- 31:47Speaker 4: and see you get the best deal for them.
- 31:49Speaker 3: What's the reaction in the locker room when somebody like
- 31:52Speaker 3: Rich Paul colors outside the lines a little bit and says, hey,
- 31:55Speaker 3: we should trade Austin Reeves for so and so or whatever.
- 31:58Speaker 3: And you a situation where Reeves is looking at Bron
- 32:03Speaker 3: and be like your best friend and agent is trying
- 32:05Speaker 3: to get me traded out of here, man, Like, how
- 32:08Speaker 3: does the locker room handle that?
- 32:09Speaker 4: The answer is it's a very very uh trippy about it.
- 32:13Speaker 4: As far as Lebron's quota is saying that I don't
- 32:16Speaker 4: my agent represents his own interests, not mine, as far
- 32:19Speaker 4: as this situation and that Austin Reeves we're teammates right now,
- 32:24Speaker 4: and also reads also guess what is a really a
- 32:26Speaker 4: talented player? And so how you handle it is that
- 32:29Speaker 4: you go to that player and explain to him and
- 32:31Speaker 4: hopefully with sincerity and be truthfulness. Is that that's my
- 32:35Speaker 4: agent talking, that's not me. And so that's why it's
- 32:39Speaker 4: so important to have it with with with each other,
- 32:41Speaker 4: an individual relationship that's based on a word called trust.
- 32:47Speaker 4: That when you break trust in a team sport, it's
- 32:50Speaker 4: hard to bring it back. And trust is everything besides talent,
- 32:54Speaker 4: and that's what we call this to be successful, Sean,
- 32:58Speaker 4: we called the three t's, trust, talent, and technique, and
- 33:03Speaker 4: all three are equal as far as.
- 33:05Speaker 1: In a team setting.
- 33:07Speaker 2: What's the list today, Gordon?
- 33:09Speaker 1: My list today?
- 33:10Speaker 4: We can never get enough of Victor Wen beyonda All right,
- 33:14Speaker 4: So the Jazz play the Spurs on Monday, Doctor Luther
- 33:19Speaker 4: King of Celebration Day in San Antonio. This list today
- 33:23Speaker 4: is the all time best retired or present French NBA players.
- 33:29Speaker 4: So French NBA players, it's the top ten. But show
- 33:32Speaker 4: me before I give you a list right now, I
- 33:34Speaker 4: just want to give you. I want to test you
- 33:35Speaker 4: knowledge of France. Oh okay, all right, Sean. What is
- 33:39Speaker 4: the capital of France?
- 33:41Speaker 2: Paris?
- 33:41Speaker 1: Correct? What's Paris's name as far as nickname?
- 33:45Speaker 2: The city of lights?
- 33:46Speaker 1: That is correct, Sean? Name for me?
- 33:51Speaker 4: Three out of the four French breads that there French
- 33:57Speaker 4: people eat three out of four?
- 33:59Speaker 3: Okay, croissant correct, baguette correct, you're.
- 34:09Speaker 1: Making us up.
- 34:11Speaker 2: Bread with chocolate. It's okay, croissants with the chocolate.
- 34:15Speaker 1: We'll give it.
- 34:16Speaker 2: I know what were the other two for you? Crepes? Oh, crapes,
- 34:22Speaker 2: and then like really really thin pancakes.
- 34:24Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 34:25Speaker 4: And then also James's favorite it's not really it's not
- 34:28Speaker 4: a bread, but it's also a dish. Right now, is
- 34:31Speaker 4: a cache and also so fla.
- 34:34Speaker 2: I'm a big guy.
- 34:35Speaker 1: I love a goodie and Sean. I'm impressed with Sean.
- 34:39Speaker 4: And also add to this, I know my job in
- 34:41Speaker 4: society right now, Seans try to help you come more
- 34:43Speaker 4: enlightened like that. That's my job in society. I appreciate
- 34:46Speaker 4: you get about coaching. Fair about that? Okay, Sean. Remember
- 34:49Speaker 4: the French Alps, yes, yes, And remember you love French cooking.
- 34:54Speaker 2: Yeah I do. I'm a big fan of most types
- 34:57Speaker 2: of cuisine.
- 34:59Speaker 1: Okay, So here we go.
- 35:00Speaker 4: So Sean has passed our annual test about French pastry
- 35:05Speaker 4: and cooking. As our list right now, the ten all
- 35:09Speaker 4: time best French players either retired or president. Number ten
- 35:13Speaker 4: he played for the Gonzaga Ronnie Tarrioff. He retired in two
- 35:16Speaker 4: entyd and fifteen had a ten year NBA Korea. Number
- 35:19Speaker 4: nine he plays in the NBA right now for the
- 35:22Speaker 4: Washington Wizards. He's a future All Star. He's an ultra talented.
- 35:26Speaker 4: His third year Bela Colabali, who's very very good. Number
- 35:30Speaker 4: eight nickname was Air France Michael Petrice. He played in
- 35:36Speaker 4: the NBA for eleven years. He retired back in twenty
- 35:40Speaker 4: thirteen number seven. Boris Diao retired in twenty seventeen. Fourteen
- 35:45Speaker 4: year NBA Korea number five Evan Fournier retired back in
- 35:50Speaker 4: twenty twenty four. Just recently, he had an outstanding twelve
- 35:53Speaker 4: year NBA Korea number five, two time champion for the
- 35:58Speaker 4: Florida Gators as an under graduate. He retired back in
- 36:02Speaker 4: twenty twenty With a thirteen year NBA creem. He was
- 36:05Speaker 4: a two time All Star and in twenty fourteen he
- 36:08Speaker 4: was voted Defensive Player of the Year. Yes Your King,
- 36:11Speaker 4: Noah number four. He plays for the Clippers. Right now,
- 36:15Speaker 4: all time best Frenchman Nick patun Is eighteenth season in
- 36:19Speaker 4: the NBA number three, former jazz Man, tremendous player heading
- 36:24Speaker 4: to the future Hall of Fame as far as an
- 36:29Speaker 4: NBA basketball Rudy Gobert, four time Defensive Player of the
- 36:33Speaker 4: Year back in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, twenty twenty one
- 36:39Speaker 4: and twenty twenty four. The second greatest NBA Frenchman player.
- 36:44Speaker 4: He plays with the San Antonio Spurs right now, fifty Wenbiyama,
- 36:48Speaker 4: he's only eight, twenty one again future NBA Hall of Famer,
- 36:54Speaker 4: generational talent. Before he retires, he'll be the MVP of
- 36:58Speaker 4: the league, he'll be First Team NBA, will be Defensive
- 37:01Speaker 4: Player of the Year and also in his world leading
- 37:04Speaker 4: the Spurs to many many NBA championships. The number one
- 37:08Speaker 4: ever great Frenchman. We all love him. Hall of Fame
- 37:12Speaker 4: inductee back in twenty and twenty three, he won four
- 37:15Speaker 4: NBA titles, He's an All Star player. He played in
- 37:19Speaker 4: one thousand, two and fifty four Korea Games NBA Finals
- 37:23Speaker 4: back in twenty seventeen. Yes, we all know and respect him.
- 37:28Speaker 4: Tony Parker. Thus that's my list today of the ten
- 37:32Speaker 4: greatest ever Frenchmen that have been in the NBA or
- 37:36Speaker 4: playing in the NBA as we speak.
- 37:38Speaker 3: Fun fact, Tony Parker, big fight fan. Yes, we've done
- 37:42Speaker 3: a few events over in France. Tony Parker's been to
- 37:45Speaker 3: a couple of them. Always very gracious with his time.
- 37:49Speaker 4: And also add to that, Tony Parker was picked number
- 37:53Speaker 4: twenty eight in the draft And Sean, did you realize
- 37:56Speaker 4: that I walked him out twice before the draft?
- 37:58Speaker 2: Really?
- 37:59Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh, absolute?
- 38:00Speaker 4: And he wanted to come state side right away and
- 38:03Speaker 4: at that time, unfortunately, there was a decision made by
- 38:07Speaker 4: ownership that we didn't want to go over the salary cap,
- 38:10Speaker 4: so we didn't draft Tony Parker. I should wait and
- 38:14Speaker 4: wedcted Lopez and uh, he was the marginal player, and
- 38:20Speaker 4: so I worked him out, showing him and my and
- 38:22Speaker 4: hey day with Jazz basketball. I worked out only two
- 38:25Speaker 4: players twice before the draft, twice usually twenty one time,
- 38:29Speaker 4: and both guys I worked out twice. We didn't draft.
- 38:33Speaker 4: We eventually got one. One was Tony Parker and one
- 38:36Speaker 4: was Carlos Boozer. Wow, that's it. So every team showing
- 38:41Speaker 4: has these stories like this. By the way, Tom Brady
- 38:44Speaker 4: was a six round draft pie and brock Party, mister
- 38:50Speaker 4: irrelevant brock Party.
- 38:51Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's it's it's old.
- 38:54Speaker 3: Now we're relying on him to get us past the
- 38:56Speaker 3: Seahawks this weekend with nothing in support.
- 39:00Speaker 1: Sean's speaking to Seahawks, who do you like?
- 39:02Speaker 3: Well, I'm a Niners guy, so I gotta say, even
- 39:05Speaker 3: when my head tells me it's an unlikely outcome, I
- 39:07Speaker 3: gotta say, Niners Bang bang, Niner gang.
- 39:09Speaker 1: All right, how about Bronco gang.
- 39:13Speaker 3: You know what, I I'm gonna give a shout out
- 39:15Speaker 3: to all my friends who are Bronco fans. I think
- 39:18Speaker 3: that they get past this one. You know, they earn
- 39:21Speaker 3: their right for the first round by I think that.
- 39:24Speaker 3: I think they're gonna pull it off. I think that
- 39:27Speaker 3: Bo Nixon company, the fighting Garrett Bowles is And by
- 39:31Speaker 3: the way, no NFL roster has more former youths. Yeah,
- 39:36Speaker 3: so because of that, I'm gonna say the Broncos get
- 39:39Speaker 3: it done.
- 39:40Speaker 1: Texans at New England, I still.
- 39:43Speaker 3: Don't believe in the Texans. Not it's weird because it's
- 39:46Speaker 3: not this group of guys. It is the franchise right
- 39:50Speaker 3: in New England and their coach, Mike Rabel, he knows
- 39:54Speaker 3: how to get past this.
- 39:54Speaker 2: He knows how to win in the playoffs. He knows
- 39:56Speaker 2: what he's doing. So I gotta go Patriots.
- 39:59Speaker 4: And a quarterback is steady, very good. And the last
- 40:02Speaker 4: one La Rams at the Bears, and we know the
- 40:06Speaker 4: Bears they're at the skin of their teeth.
- 40:08Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's their style.
- 40:10Speaker 3: You know, partially because our next guest who's joining us
- 40:15Speaker 3: in half an hour, won a Super Bowl with the Rams.
- 40:18Speaker 3: But I often defer to guys like our friend Eric
- 40:22Speaker 3: Weddle when he's talking about who's ready, who's built for it,
- 40:25Speaker 3: and who's not. The Bears feel like a team on
- 40:28Speaker 3: the rise that might be another year or two away.
- 40:30Speaker 3: The Rams are the opposite end of that spectrum. They've
- 40:33Speaker 3: got another year or two before they've got to turn
- 40:36Speaker 3: the page for Matt Stafford, and who knows what happens
- 40:39Speaker 3: after that. So I think that the Rams get this
- 40:42Speaker 3: one done. I don't think it's particularly close, honestly. If so,
- 40:46Speaker 3: I think it'll be the weather that factors in pretty aggressively.
- 40:49Speaker 2: But I think the Rams have this one all the way, and.
- 40:51Speaker 1: The weather is so important.
- 40:53Speaker 4: And also so think about showing you're talking about his quarterback.
- 40:57Speaker 4: There's no other position in Swart that's more important than
- 41:01Speaker 4: the quarterback, nothing in the team sport. So if your
- 41:06Speaker 4: quarterback is really good and he's seasoned and he's a
- 41:09Speaker 4: great leader, the chances of winning go dramatically, and every
- 41:13Speaker 4: team is trying to get the right quarterback. And in
- 41:16Speaker 4: basketball it's that Usually it's that it's that not point guard,
- 41:20Speaker 4: but it's someone that you could be a big guy
- 41:23Speaker 4: but have point guard skills. I just described right now
- 41:25Speaker 4: Nikolai Jokic of the Denver Nuggets, who are overachieving, and
- 41:29Speaker 4: so there's nothing like there's nothing regular about the playoffs
- 41:33Speaker 4: showing whether it's the NBA or whether it's the NFL
- 41:36Speaker 4: is so exciting and that's how players make their career
- 41:39Speaker 4: by advancing in the playoffs.
- 41:42Speaker 3: You could listen to those NFL playoff games right here
- 41:45Speaker 3: on ESPN seven hundred and ninety two one FM. Ordy,
- 41:48Speaker 3: you're the man. I always appreciate you giving us your
- 41:50Speaker 3: time and expertise.
- 41:51Speaker 1: Thanks Sean, peaceout