Latest / Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation / NFL Week 6 DFS Takedown Breakdown | October 14, 2024 | DraftKings DFS Lineup Review and Analysis
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- 0:01Speaker 1: All systems gone clear the lift.
- 0:31Speaker 2: What's up everyone?
- 0:32Speaker 3: Tyler Tambaline here aka Totag and Tambo back for another
- 0:36Speaker 3: edition of the Takedown Breakdown here on the ship Nation
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- 0:41Speaker 3: way in. It helps us out. We keep all these
- 0:43Speaker 3: shows free for you out there. We can review, go
- 0:45Speaker 3: through everything that we're going to talk about on this show.
- 0:47Speaker 3: We've got five fifty five Millionmaker winner RBX won his
- 0:50Speaker 3: fourth million Maker only five entries in it. We're gonna
- 0:52Speaker 3: break that down. Congrats to him. We got our guy, Kenny.
- 0:55Speaker 3: Shipping Nation member had a huge legendary Day one about
- 0:58Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty five thousand cash more than that
- 1:00Speaker 3: because he came third or fourth, I can't remember what
- 1:03Speaker 3: he came, but at the Fantasy NASCAR Championship he was
- 1:05Speaker 3: live at that too. But the NFL day is what
- 1:07Speaker 3: we're going to be talking about, including him winning an
- 1:09Speaker 3: FFWC seed. We're gonna break down the twenty dollars million maker.
- 1:12Speaker 3: Everyone's wondering how that guy. I've had cheating allegations, everyone
- 1:15Speaker 3: bringing up anything with that lineup.
- 1:17Speaker 2: So we'll get to that.
- 1:18Speaker 3: I'll show you one of my lineups that I played
- 1:20Speaker 3: in the one to fifty that you guys, if you
- 1:21Speaker 3: watch yesterday's show, heard me talk about, and I made
- 1:24Speaker 3: a big mistake in it. I went to get something
- 1:26Speaker 3: I said on the show. My own fault could have
- 1:28Speaker 3: cost me. I think probably around forty k we'll see
- 1:31Speaker 3: when we get there. And I got my guy Naid's
- 1:32Speaker 3: here with me as always going to break down everything
- 1:34Speaker 3: as we go throughout, aids.
- 1:35Speaker 2: What's going on? Man? Week six? Really good week for
- 1:38Speaker 2: the nation. But that's only so far.
- 1:39Speaker 3: We still got tonight Buffalo New York Jets will be
- 1:42Speaker 3: breaking that down just two hours from now here on
- 1:44Speaker 3: this channel with whop title in myself.
- 1:45Speaker 2: What's going on man?
- 1:46Speaker 4: Yeah, was a great Week six. Was on all the
- 1:49Speaker 4: right plays, just had them kind of spread out throughout.
- 1:51Speaker 4: Still overall, had a pretty good day and had a
- 1:54Speaker 4: nice sweat going on. Last night neiled the Tyrone Tracy
- 1:57Speaker 4: play there, and I mean that game overall was ugly.
- 1:59Speaker 4: I wish I had hours back of time I spent
- 2:02Speaker 4: watching that game. But nonetheless, it's been a great Week
- 2:05Speaker 4: six so far. A couple close calls, a couple near misses,
- 2:08Speaker 4: but hey, if I'm not getting all the way to
- 2:10Speaker 4: the top. At least we had the community to get
- 2:12Speaker 4: there in many places, and that means means the most,
- 2:16Speaker 4: right when when you're doing content, when you building the
- 2:18Speaker 4: community like we have over here at the Nation, it's
- 2:20Speaker 4: always fun to see other guys winning and gals winning
- 2:25Speaker 4: if it's not yourself, right, Yeah, certainly.
- 2:27Speaker 2: What it's all about.
- 2:27Speaker 3: And that's the fun in it, right, It's not always
- 2:29Speaker 3: just you know who myself title you rio etcept. For
- 2:31Speaker 3: the rest of our team, it's you know, we got
- 2:33Speaker 3: everybody out there that's putting their time in and trying
- 2:35Speaker 3: to find their way around the stone.
- 2:37Speaker 2: Just an incredible tool. We're going to go review that
- 2:39Speaker 2: as well. Just have a look.
- 2:40Speaker 3: Our stack rankings had the New Orleans Tampa Bay game
- 2:43Speaker 3: as the top two in the stack rankings. The sneaky
- 2:46Speaker 3: game on our stone was the Buccaneers Saints, and sure enough,
- 2:50Speaker 3: when you see a lot of these winning lineups, it's
- 2:51Speaker 3: going to involve that and that's how other people found
- 2:54Speaker 3: the top. But where do you want to start today?
- 2:55Speaker 3: I think we should probably start with the twenty dollars
- 2:57Speaker 3: million maker. Everybody wants to have a look at that one.
- 3:00Speaker 3: Like I said, there's literally cheating allegations around it. People
- 3:02Speaker 3: are saying they're, you know, not believing that this could
- 3:05Speaker 3: be a real thing, and it is a very interesting
- 3:09Speaker 3: just getting some feedback there. Naid's on your side, but
- 3:12Speaker 3: good unmuted, Yeah, yeah, we're good. Yeah, you got me now, okay, cool,
- 3:18Speaker 3: all right, I'm gonna bring it up Joe nip one
- 3:20Speaker 3: sixty six. I already looked it up there, so he
- 3:22Speaker 3: actually only played this lineup. So first of all, there's
- 3:25Speaker 3: at least something to be said about that. I think
- 3:27Speaker 3: where uh, you know, the setup of if you are
- 3:30Speaker 3: playing one lineup, we talk about all the time, what's
- 3:32Speaker 3: your strategy. Sometimes it's just to gamble it up and
- 3:35Speaker 3: see if you can hit the nuts and win a
- 3:37Speaker 3: million bucks. In this case, not much better ROI that
- 3:39Speaker 3: you can receive than twenty dollars into one million. But
- 3:42Speaker 3: I'll let you run through at Aids and what you see.
- 3:45Speaker 3: Just break down the lineup first and then talk to
- 3:47Speaker 3: me a little bit about what you see from your angle.
- 3:50Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, first things I see looking at this
- 3:53Speaker 4: lineup is he was probably sitting on the john in
- 3:55Speaker 4: the morning and hand plugging players, right. I don't know
- 3:59Speaker 4: he or she or who whoever this person is, but
- 4:01Speaker 4: it definitely seems like a handbuilt here. The Jordan Love play.
- 4:04Speaker 4: I was on Jordan Love. He was on one of
- 4:06Speaker 4: my main teams. I like that spot. I said it
- 4:08Speaker 4: was flying under the radar, like last week. Do I
- 4:11Speaker 4: go in there and play naked Jordan Love? Absolutely not,
- 4:13Speaker 4: probably not. Usually I'm double stacking him, But I mean,
- 4:17Speaker 4: I think he played a lot of good plays. He
- 4:19Speaker 4: or she played a lot of good plays here. Obviously,
- 4:21Speaker 4: Henry in a great spot. Pivot off of Lamar, pivot
- 4:23Speaker 4: off of Lamar, Andrews. If you can't get all the
- 4:25Speaker 4: way up to Lamar Henry in games that you win, right,
- 4:28Speaker 4: you drop that tidbit. He's significant. I think he averages
- 4:31Speaker 4: like right around twenty three Fantasy points in games they win,
- 4:34Speaker 4: and he's like twelve points if they lose games yesterday. Yeah, yeah,
- 4:40Speaker 4: so his average. I mean, if you think that the
- 4:42Speaker 4: Ravens win or any team he's on right that they win,
- 4:46Speaker 4: he just significantly scores more Fantasy points there. So overall
- 4:49Speaker 4: that's a good play. The Sean Tucker play, there's just
- 4:52Speaker 4: I mean, he might have been one of like three
- 4:54Speaker 4: lineups in the tournament that had Sean Tucker. Is it
- 4:57Speaker 4: a good spot? Yeah? Absolutely, it was a good spot.
- 4:59Speaker 4: That's why Irving was fifty percent owned, which I thought
- 5:02Speaker 4: he would have been higher. I mean, we're gonna get
- 5:04Speaker 4: to that rant here in a second. But I mean
- 5:08Speaker 4: it's always you get these kind of spots, right where
- 5:10Speaker 4: these value running backs get thrust in the starting role
- 5:12Speaker 4: in a great not matchup, and then guys always want
- 5:16Speaker 4: to go and play the backup, right, Like, oh, if
- 5:18Speaker 4: I'm not playing him, I have to play Sean Tucker,
- 5:20Speaker 4: I have to play you name it, insert the name, right,
- 5:23Speaker 4: It's just not the case. Did it happen for him? Yeah? Absolutely?
- 5:26Speaker 4: But I mean Tampa Bay ran for over two hundred
- 5:29Speaker 4: and fifty yards on the ground and Bucky scored eighteen points.
- 5:31Speaker 4: Like there's there's so much more. I know we're gonna
- 5:34Speaker 4: hit on that than in a second there. But the
- 5:36Speaker 4: Godwin I just saw Satz right with Baker. I mean,
- 5:41Speaker 4: Baker's been a top five quarterback or top ten quarterback
- 5:43Speaker 4: in fantasy scoring all but one week, so Godwin's always
- 5:46Speaker 4: the guy there. Obviously, no lottam more coverage there in there,
- 5:49Speaker 4: So I mean he basically went in here and picked
- 5:51Speaker 4: all good plays that he thought right, like he liked
- 5:54Speaker 4: or whatever, whatever the thought process was. I mean, cheating
- 5:57Speaker 4: allegations and things like that. I think that's just ludacrous,
- 6:00Speaker 4: be honest. I think it's just hand plugging good plays.
- 6:02Speaker 4: He probably filled in. Oh Jordan Love, I remember Jordan Love.
- 6:06Speaker 4: Oh Derek Henry. I like him. He's a good play, right,
- 6:08Speaker 4: and then just found some pieces that fit. And Sean
- 6:11Speaker 4: Tucker he probably was, I mean, probably landed on Sean
- 6:14Speaker 4: Tucker or had some sort of ideation that, Hey, Bucky
- 6:18Speaker 4: Irving's gonna be mega chalk. Hey maybe I'm just playing
- 6:22Speaker 4: one mine up. I'm just gonna hey, Bucky Irving goes out,
- 6:24Speaker 4: rolls in ankles something like that. Sean Tucker is in
- 6:26Speaker 4: the exact same spot, right, So overall, nothing more to
- 6:30Speaker 4: be said. Joe Mixing coming back, Obviously he was a
- 6:33Speaker 4: workhorse in that offense before he came back. He's not
- 6:36Speaker 4: having any of the passing plays, right, the Tank Dells
- 6:39Speaker 4: of the world, the Stefan Diggs, the CJ Shrouds that
- 6:41Speaker 4: were getting ownership there going to a Joe Mixon. So
- 6:44Speaker 4: that's kind of how I interpret it. I don't look
- 6:47Speaker 4: at it and say, cheating allegations anything like that. It
- 6:49Speaker 4: just looks like a hand picked some good plays and
- 6:52Speaker 4: then fill in whoever fits around that kind of thing.
- 6:55Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna go through this yere. So we're gonna
- 6:58Speaker 3: talk about a couple things. We're definitely gonna spend time
- 6:59Speaker 3: on Buckey Irving as well. Certainly I thought the best
- 7:02Speaker 3: chalk of the entire season. And one of these things
- 7:04Speaker 3: is obviously that Sean Tucker. I know, go collect just
- 7:06Speaker 3: out of here. Tucker took all the ceiling. We'll spend
- 7:08Speaker 3: some time on that. The answer was zero. So shout
- 7:10Speaker 3: out to my guy Billy hit me up yesterday with
- 7:12Speaker 3: chat about him on the show. Does a ton of
- 7:14Speaker 3: good work around the industry, have been able to meet
- 7:15Speaker 3: him and see him and stuff. But this is, you know,
- 7:18Speaker 3: not true as well because he doesn't have the money
- 7:19Speaker 3: left over. Trey Tucker was forty two hundred. So look,
- 7:23Speaker 3: nobody is gonna let anybody validate this lineup no matter what.
- 7:27Speaker 3: And I get it, and I'm not going to try to.
- 7:28Speaker 3: I would never build a lineup like this. It is
- 7:31Speaker 3: a one build out of the entire tournament, but on
- 7:34Speaker 3: paper and just to go to it I know we
- 7:36Speaker 3: usually start with the perfect lineup, but we're going with
- 7:38Speaker 3: the maybe the most imperfect of all time to win
- 7:40Speaker 3: a Millie because zero points, zero percent getting the job done.
- 7:43Speaker 3: I will just say again I would never build a
- 7:45Speaker 3: lineup like this, But to break it all down, Tucker
- 7:49Speaker 3: is the direct backup to the chalkiest guy in the
- 7:51Speaker 3: entire slate. If you're not playing Bucky Irving and you're
- 7:55Speaker 3: playing Sean Tucker, you're assuming that they probably smashed.
- 7:58Speaker 2: So at least two things to.
- 7:59Speaker 3: Me are correct. Again, I'm not building like this, just
- 8:02Speaker 3: trying to validate what I see here. If you're playing Tucker,
- 8:05Speaker 3: what can make some sense of it would be that
- 8:07Speaker 3: it's a blowout.
- 8:08Speaker 2: They smashed. They put off fifty one points.
- 8:10Speaker 3: Okay, he didn't just play Tucker instead of Bucky Irving
- 8:13Speaker 3: and move on. He played Tucker Godwin, who's a PPR guy,
- 8:16Speaker 3: doesn't really require Baker Aughton, like I always talk about,
- 8:20Speaker 3: just filling out the tight end slot and then Buccaneers defense,
- 8:23Speaker 3: that's gonna they must be smashing if Tucker's in the game,
- 8:25Speaker 3: smashing like this to me at least made sense. Next
- 8:28Speaker 3: big game on the slate where I'm gonna go out, Okay,
- 8:30Speaker 3: Henry and Zay Flowers. I'm playing two guys from the
- 8:33Speaker 3: Baltimore game. If I'm not playing five thousand dollars even
- 8:37Speaker 3: Ferguson as the chalk, I'm playing five thousand dollars tolvert
- 8:40Speaker 3: Our guy Kenny who will review later, who won the Thunderdome,
- 8:43Speaker 3: a bunch of other contests, and an FFWC ticket with
- 8:45Speaker 3: the same lineup. He had that same move. I'll show
- 8:47Speaker 3: that one off as well. Mixon is an interesting leverage
- 8:51Speaker 3: play on the slate because he was injured almost leading
- 8:53Speaker 3: up and Nico Collins completely out. So while people are
- 8:55Speaker 3: trying to figure out Dell who had ownership or digs
- 8:59Speaker 3: or whatever, Listen, do I think Joe Nip had the
- 9:02Speaker 3: secret sauce and you know, just new to play all
- 9:04Speaker 3: this game theory and put it all together that way.
- 9:06Speaker 3: Probably not one lineup, I get it, but again, nobody's
- 9:09Speaker 3: gonna validate it. I'm never gonna build like this. But
- 9:11Speaker 3: Jordan Love really hard to decide between Wis Dobbs coming back, Watson,
- 9:17Speaker 3: read Craft, literally everybody. Jacob's in a better spot. So
- 9:21Speaker 3: if you are gonna play him and just say, look,
- 9:22Speaker 3: he's around the same price as Baker. He's a mobile quarterback.
- 9:26Speaker 3: He's gonna spread it out. I don't know what it's
- 9:27Speaker 3: gonna be, but I think he could outscore him. That's
- 9:30Speaker 3: how you land there, I guess. But yeah, all timer
- 9:33Speaker 3: that we've got here, I think you know the all
- 9:36Speaker 3: those bucks and Baker again, I'm not gonna validate that
- 9:38Speaker 3: he knew what he was doing with this, but I
- 9:40Speaker 3: literally think that's the best way you do it. If
- 9:42Speaker 3: you're not playing Baker, he's playing the backup. And instead
- 9:45Speaker 3: of just playing the backup and getting away with it,
- 9:47Speaker 3: he's saying the reason the backup's in is because the blow.
- 9:50Speaker 3: The reason the blow it happened is because the defense
- 9:52Speaker 3: and Tucker and Auton just fills the slot at cheap.
- 9:55Speaker 3: And Godwin doesn't need Baker. Godwin is a type and
- 9:58Speaker 3: when I get to my mistake later on, it's about
- 10:00Speaker 3: a quarter about a wide receiver.
- 10:01Speaker 2: I thought needed his quarterback.
- 10:03Speaker 3: And I've talked about this plenty in the last couple
- 10:04Speaker 3: of weeks with Chase with Burrow and things like that,
- 10:07Speaker 3: but Godwin most certainly does not need to have You
- 10:10Speaker 3: could always see a game out of him where it's
- 10:11Speaker 3: the pretty much the same game. You could have seen
- 10:13Speaker 3: an eleven one twenty five and zero and still had
- 10:16Speaker 3: a huge score for Godwin, but not had the two
- 10:18Speaker 3: touchdowns that obviously linked to Baker.
- 10:21Speaker 2: So again, hard to validate it. I get it.
- 10:23Speaker 3: I'm just saying I do like that if going that route,
- 10:26Speaker 3: that Tucker wasn't just play Tucker and Bill elsewhere he
- 10:30Speaker 3: said Tucker's in because it's a smash. Let me get
- 10:32Speaker 3: the smash to fill out the rest of the lineup.
- 10:34Speaker 3: There's any secondary thoughts, I'll run through the chat there too, but.
- 10:38Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean no secondary thoughts. I mean now that
- 10:41Speaker 4: you see it even more right with basically I mean
- 10:44Speaker 4: the two team parlay for ninety percent of the lineup,
- 10:47Speaker 4: right with the Ravens and then the Buccaneers, makes sense,
- 10:51Speaker 4: Like Ross says in the chat, if he did play
- 10:54Speaker 4: a little bit more correlation aspect, that makes a little
- 10:57Speaker 4: bit more sense plugging in Baker Mayfield, I mean even
- 11:00Speaker 4: dusted the field even more, and that would have less
- 11:02Speaker 4: people would have like said, oh, this lineup is horrible. Right,
- 11:06Speaker 4: he just went the onslaught stack of the Buccaneers, right,
- 11:10Speaker 4: and hey, they get it done through the air with
- 11:13Speaker 4: Godwin in autumn and Bucky Irving is they get pulled
- 11:17Speaker 4: right because they're smashing him, the defense does good, and
- 11:20Speaker 4: Shaun Tucker just gets thrusted. No running back in the
- 11:23Speaker 4: league all season long is ever going to get one
- 11:25Speaker 4: hundred percent of the snaps regardless, right, So I mean
- 11:29Speaker 4: playing the backup in one of the best matchups in
- 11:31Speaker 4: the slate makes some sense. But again I mean overall,
- 11:35Speaker 4: had he played Baker, I think a lot less people
- 11:37Speaker 4: would talk about cheating allegations and no, tell.
- 11:39Speaker 2: You we know he didn't cheat. First of all, it's
- 11:42Speaker 2: a joke, right, Like obviously people are just saying that.
- 11:43Speaker 3: But the takeaway is what you just said, if he
- 11:45Speaker 3: just left the hundred bucks on the table, not only
- 11:47Speaker 3: would he have scored more points, like there was a
- 11:49Speaker 3: spot here where he could have came second. And that's
- 11:51Speaker 3: what people really would have been laughing, Like you would
- 11:53Speaker 3: have cost yourself nine hundred grand by not correlating it
- 11:56Speaker 3: for one hundred bucks. Less to just run the five
- 11:58Speaker 3: man onslought and say Bake got there with Godwin and
- 12:01Speaker 3: Auten because they were smashing so hard, the d got
- 12:04Speaker 3: there and Tucker got in. Let me slam in two
- 12:07Speaker 3: Ravens who I think are gonna smash at home, and
- 12:09Speaker 3: again not like Zay needs. Look at that that he's
- 12:11Speaker 3: the exact example of what I was just talking about
- 12:14Speaker 3: with Godwin nine for one hundred and thirty two in
- 12:16Speaker 3: the bonus, but did not need Lamar, and that's because
- 12:19Speaker 3: Lamar would get eaten up a little bit by Henry.
- 12:21Speaker 3: So Mixon is just a good play off of Dell
- 12:25Speaker 3: and Nico Collins not being there and Tolbert's fine at
- 12:27Speaker 3: the exact same price holding out a wide receiver position
- 12:30Speaker 3: as opposed to Ferguson chalk at that if he just
- 12:32Speaker 3: played Baker, nobody would say shit. If he had two
- 12:35Speaker 3: lineups that had Baker and then said, well shit, if
- 12:38Speaker 3: I got the hundred bucks left, I'm just gonna go
- 12:40Speaker 3: to love in a second one and ran forty dollars
- 12:42Speaker 3: worth of lineups, nobody would say shit. And he actually
- 12:44Speaker 3: would have came first and second. So it is interesting
- 12:47Speaker 3: but always fun to see stuff like this. It just
- 12:49Speaker 3: shows that anything can get there. I do think that
- 12:51Speaker 3: the you know, the Tucker play if you're going to
- 12:53Speaker 3: it was much more interesting in an onslaught build, So
- 12:56Speaker 3: at least he had that going for him. Would love
- 12:58Speaker 3: to find Joe Nip one sixty I know we do
- 13:00Speaker 3: all these things out there on X and people post
- 13:02Speaker 3: around the world about certain topics. I was at a
- 13:04Speaker 3: bar tonight and met this person. If you know who
- 13:07Speaker 3: they are, and then it goes viral. If anybody in
- 13:09Speaker 3: the DFS space knows Joe Nipp one sixty six, link
- 13:12Speaker 3: me together with Joe nipp I'd like to talk to
- 13:14Speaker 3: Joe nip and see if we'd get him on a
- 13:15Speaker 3: show chat a little bit about their thought process on
- 13:18Speaker 3: this lineup. And again, he could have just left on
- 13:21Speaker 3: hundred bucks. Nobody would have said anything. So definitely, like
- 13:23Speaker 3: Ross said, it would have been better if he had
- 13:25Speaker 3: to play Baker, So move off this one. I think
- 13:28Speaker 3: it is at least somewhat interesting. It was worth talking
- 13:30Speaker 3: about just so we could go in and see it.
- 13:32Speaker 3: I am going to pull up and just see out
- 13:33Speaker 3: of curiosity here what the perfect lineup was for yesterday.
- 13:38Speaker 3: Obviously Sean Tucker did he almost have it Geus, look
- 13:41Speaker 3: how close he was Naid, He's like, this is the
- 13:43Speaker 3: perfect lineup?
- 13:43Speaker 4: Is Baker?
- 13:44Speaker 3: Sean Tucker, Godwin A couple of different spots obviously, but
- 13:47Speaker 3: mix in Zay and Derek Hassel one two, so he
- 13:50Speaker 3: didn't have Baker, but he could have won one, two, three, four,
- 13:54Speaker 3: five of the actual plays. Shout out Mark Andrews making
- 13:57Speaker 3: a perfect lineup. That's crazy, baby, he's back. But this
- 14:02Speaker 3: is the perfect lineup. I don't think we really need
- 14:03Speaker 3: to go through it because it's almost similar to what
- 14:05Speaker 3: we talked about. But it really was just targeting. Funny enough,
- 14:08Speaker 3: it landed on three guys from the Tampa game, three
- 14:11Speaker 3: guys from the Baltimore side, and then it had the
- 14:14Speaker 3: secondary stack with Pop Douglass and Joe Mixon. And if
- 14:17Speaker 3: you're not playing that big Dallas Detroit game, why not
- 14:20Speaker 3: get the Detroit D against it? And I did see
- 14:23Speaker 3: some sharper players get to that yesterday. I let that
- 14:26Speaker 3: one slip last week. I don't think I had very
- 14:28Speaker 3: much of them, but I think that was another interesting
- 14:30Speaker 3: one that was sort of just penciled in there two
- 14:31Speaker 3: hundred bucks more.
- 14:32Speaker 2: Obviously the Tampa Bay Chalk D got there. But any
- 14:34Speaker 2: thoughts on this perfect lineup?
- 14:36Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the Lions D makes a lot of sense, right,
- 14:39Speaker 4: I mean, you knew Dak was coming in with tons
- 14:41Speaker 4: of ownership. You knew Tober you knew obviously, Ceedee Lamb
- 14:44Speaker 4: that that Hogue. Everybody said, this is I mean the
- 14:47Speaker 4: game of the year, right, is that Lions and Cowboys game?
- 14:52Speaker 4: Why couldn't a team with a good defense, mind you,
- 14:54Speaker 4: I mean rest in peace, Aiden Hutchinson, But I mean
- 14:57Speaker 4: you still have the best defensive player, one of the
- 14:59Speaker 4: best defense players in the league on that team. That
- 15:03Speaker 4: can rank Greek Havoc and Dak just looks lost half
- 15:06Speaker 4: the time out there. Right, He's not a good quarterback.
- 15:08Speaker 4: He's a business decision. Was he in a good spot? Absolutely,
- 15:10Speaker 4: But if you're not playing that, why not slide in
- 15:12Speaker 4: a good defense? He's produced all year at twenty eight hundred.
- 15:15Speaker 4: That's also a pivot off the chalk here twenty six
- 15:18Speaker 4: hundred defense for the Bucks. Who Yeah, they did get there,
- 15:21Speaker 4: But not only that, you're less than the Eagles, You're
- 15:23Speaker 4: less than some of those other defenses, right that were
- 15:25Speaker 4: picking up a ton of ownership there as well. So
- 15:28Speaker 4: that play overall makes sense. Pop Douglas, I know he
- 15:30Speaker 4: popped in our stack. Rank he's a little bit over here.
- 15:34Speaker 4: Was I getting to him or Joe Mixon? Probably not?
- 15:36Speaker 4: But I mean, obviously this dude, Joe Nip right was
- 15:39Speaker 4: almost perfect, or it could have been damn near perfect
- 15:42Speaker 4: right on his line up there too, But yeah, Pop
- 15:45Speaker 4: Douglas is like right there, eighth or ninth, right.
- 15:48Speaker 3: Yeah, we had a lot of this stuff here. I mean,
- 15:50Speaker 3: if you were I mean, Zay obviously worked. You weren't
- 15:52Speaker 3: playing this, you played Derrick Henry zach Ertz was a
- 15:55Speaker 3: nice little secondary stack in some of the higher stakes
- 15:57Speaker 3: lineups that I saw that got there, Tony Paul, if
- 16:00Speaker 3: you weren't going to this passing game, bijon, if you
- 16:02Speaker 3: weren't going to this passing game, but most certainly loved
- 16:05Speaker 3: Tampa Bay and New Orleans at the top of our
- 16:06Speaker 3: stack rankings at the latest update yesterday. And then also
- 16:10Speaker 3: if you go here, the same thing over on the stone.
- 16:14Speaker 2: Pink is the sneaky game.
- 16:17Speaker 3: Go down here the sneaky game obviously if you're looking
- 16:19Speaker 3: for leverage and we're gonna have the Bucky Irving chat
- 16:21Speaker 3: here in just one second, I will say, just the
- 16:23Speaker 3: last thing on a couple things perfect lineup. So two
- 16:26Speaker 3: thing one, it's not a mis click, the mis click
- 16:30Speaker 3: to go to love if he just hadn't done the
- 16:33Speaker 3: right click is what you're I'm assuming you're saying to
- 16:35Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield, he wins by more so, he didn't misclick
- 16:37Speaker 3: into it.
- 16:38Speaker 2: He misclick.
- 16:38Speaker 3: He could have misclicked himself out of it if you
- 16:40Speaker 3: were building standard like an onslaught with Baker Mayfield.
- 16:43Speaker 2: So he was winning the money no matter what.
- 16:45Speaker 3: It's just people are going to be mad about it
- 16:46Speaker 3: because he didn't build it with the quarterback in that spot.
- 16:48Speaker 3: I think it's how I would have built it is
- 16:50Speaker 3: with Baker Mayfield, of course, if I even got there.
- 16:53Speaker 3: But I think a lot of the other concepts and
- 16:54Speaker 3: stuff still you can make an argument for them whether
- 16:56Speaker 3: we believe it or not.
- 16:57Speaker 2: I'm not going to try and validate it, but I
- 16:58Speaker 2: certainly will bring up.
- 17:00Speaker 3: The other thing I'll say is when we do look
- 17:01Speaker 3: at some of these lineups here later on these ten
- 17:04Speaker 3: games slates, which when there's the London game, the by
- 17:06Speaker 3: game next week. By the way, Week seven has the
- 17:08Speaker 3: double Monday game again with a London game, so there's
- 17:11Speaker 3: you know, it's the same thing again, I think ten
- 17:12Speaker 3: or eleven games with the buys and stuff. But just
- 17:14Speaker 3: to say it, when there's clearcut spots. We talked a
- 17:17Speaker 3: lot about this on yesterday's show this week in general
- 17:19Speaker 3: last week we saw it the same. When there's only
- 17:22Speaker 3: three games or four games that you even have interest in,
- 17:24Speaker 3: you could just build your lineups around that and then
- 17:26Speaker 3: find ways to get different within it. I think the
- 17:27Speaker 3: perfect lineup is a prime example of if you're on Tampa,
- 17:31Speaker 3: No Bucky, you're on Baltimore, you pick another game, and
- 17:35Speaker 3: then you just land on the defense against one of
- 17:36Speaker 3: the big games. That's all it sometimes takes. And we
- 17:39Speaker 3: saw a lot of lineups like that yesterday. I know,
- 17:41Speaker 3: Hoop had a couple good runs, our guy Hoopster in
- 17:43Speaker 3: the millies, both the twenty and the five fifty five
- 17:46Speaker 3: where it was like three Arizona's three from this side,
- 17:50Speaker 3: and you're really just building like those three game parlays
- 17:52Speaker 3: of lineups like we talked about. There's certainly some upside
- 17:55Speaker 3: to that, and a lot of it makes sense because
- 17:56Speaker 3: it truly does correlate when you go through it.
- 17:59Speaker 4: So yeah, line I fan, good luck with this. I mean,
- 18:01Speaker 4: we said the same thing in Green Bay for forever,
- 18:04Speaker 4: So I don't think that's going to happen. I mean,
- 18:06Speaker 4: I think you just got a bunch of stuff brewing
- 18:09Speaker 4: there in Dallas. But yeah, I don't think this is
- 18:12Speaker 4: going to happen anytime soon.
- 18:13Speaker 2: All right, let's go. I agree with you. And it's
- 18:16Speaker 2: a sad scene there, obviously.
- 18:17Speaker 3: I know they were showing Verable at like a volleyball
- 18:19Speaker 3: game or something yesterday, saying like why does this guy
- 18:21Speaker 3: not have a job and some of these coaches do.
- 18:23Speaker 3: I mean, I could go on and on these guys
- 18:25Speaker 3: kicking field goals down thirty points, like it's literally I said,
- 18:28Speaker 3: in the real world, if you're already screwing up at
- 18:31Speaker 3: a job the equivalent of a football game, you're just
- 18:34Speaker 3: playing like shit or multiple bad weeks, or you're sucking,
- 18:36Speaker 3: you're not getting your team to perform at a high level,
- 18:39Speaker 3: and then you double down and make a huge mistake.
- 18:41Speaker 3: So at work, you're not doing good at your job,
- 18:43Speaker 3: your boss isn't happy, and then you go double down
- 18:45Speaker 3: and make another mistake.
- 18:46Speaker 2: I just don't see how you ever move on.
- 18:48Speaker 3: But these guys continue to keep these jobs and they're
- 18:50Speaker 3: good to go. I loved by the way in the
- 18:52Speaker 3: Ravens game yesterday, it's not easy in that spot, and
- 18:56Speaker 3: the commanders know that it's just no good field goal
- 18:58Speaker 3: is no good, we have to go for this, and
- 18:59Speaker 3: they got the touchdown and they stayed in the game
- 19:01Speaker 3: and gave themselves a chance.
- 19:02Speaker 2: And I'm a Ravens fan right the raven right there there.
- 19:05Speaker 3: But I'm saying, like the setup is, that's how you
- 19:08Speaker 3: got to do it, win or lose, whatever it is.
- 19:10Speaker 3: That's the way to give yourself a chance, and that's
- 19:11Speaker 3: how you should be playing. That to me, should get
- 19:13Speaker 3: rewarded much more than some of the other stuff. But
- 19:16Speaker 3: to move on, we got other lineups to talk about.
- 19:17Speaker 3: I want to get to all of them today because
- 19:19Speaker 3: I think there's lots of good things to talk about.
- 19:20Speaker 2: My mistake that I made yesterday.
- 19:22Speaker 3: I want to talk about the RBX stuff with the
- 19:24Speaker 3: fivety five, but I do want I have the Bucky
- 19:26Speaker 3: conversation real quick, and only because it came up so
- 19:29Speaker 3: much in our discord that I wanted to clarify, and
- 19:31Speaker 3: I'm sure it came up in others. I'm sure other
- 19:33Speaker 3: players are wondering this or thinking about it or discussing it.
- 19:36Speaker 3: I have never seen a better chalk play all season,
- 19:38Speaker 3: and I don't understand again, all the top players, if
- 19:41Speaker 3: you go to the five fifty five million will show
- 19:43Speaker 3: you the exposures later. They all had pretty much forty
- 19:46Speaker 3: five to eighty percent they were at the field or
- 19:48Speaker 3: above on this play. It's slate dynamics. I think this
- 19:52Speaker 3: is where people get lost in the mix. Is he
- 19:54Speaker 3: going to be the chalk of the slate? Is there
- 19:56Speaker 3: ten games? Is there so many other running back plays
- 19:58Speaker 3: that can get there. Yes, but people are acting like
- 20:00Speaker 3: we had all the value in the world to make
- 20:02Speaker 3: all the other stuff work, and we did not. Bucky
- 20:04Speaker 3: Irving was already taking Rashad White and taking his work
- 20:08Speaker 3: and eating his lunch. They'd already talked him up heavy.
- 20:11Speaker 3: This was a great spot. The matchup was, you know,
- 20:14Speaker 3: not the best on paper, but the price point was fine.
- 20:16Speaker 3: And we know that he can catch balls, he can
- 20:18Speaker 3: get the red zone, end zone work, he can get
- 20:20Speaker 3: a ton of carries in a spot like this here,
- 20:22Speaker 3: So I was fine with it regardless. I've never seen
- 20:25Speaker 3: our optimal this season be so high on somebody. And
- 20:28Speaker 3: it takes into consideration all of that stuff, with the
- 20:30Speaker 3: slate at hand, the simulation of.
- 20:31Speaker 2: The projection we have for him, which was low.
- 20:34Speaker 3: So when people were like, oh, he didn't even get
- 20:36Speaker 3: his medium projection came you know, he was already only at.
- 20:38Speaker 2: Fifteen point six.
- 20:39Speaker 3: It's not like you needed him to get you the
- 20:41Speaker 3: thirty five or something like that. But if he did,
- 20:43Speaker 3: we thought there was the ceiling there. As go Collect
- 20:45Speaker 3: mentioned earlier, Tucker took his ceiling. But that's again, it's
- 20:50Speaker 3: everyone always wants to look at the result or as
- 20:52Speaker 3: it's broken down, It's all you want to do is
- 20:54Speaker 3: did you get in get did you get your money
- 20:55Speaker 3: in good?
- 20:56Speaker 4: Aces?
- 20:56Speaker 3: Lose to Kings in poker all the time? Are you
- 20:59Speaker 3: gonna say, Ah, shouldn't have played that. I knew it, man,
- 21:01Speaker 3: I knew Kings were gonna get me on this one.
- 21:03Speaker 3: That's what people are essentially saying, Oh, I knew the
- 21:05Speaker 3: Kings were gonna this guy's chalk, he's the Kings. He's
- 21:08Speaker 3: gonna bust because of that. I knew that this was
- 21:10Speaker 3: gonna beat me.
- 21:11Speaker 2: No, you didn't.
- 21:12Speaker 3: You got your money in good. Lots of other players
- 21:14Speaker 3: that are the best in the game got their money
- 21:15Speaker 3: and good with him, and he did end up working
- 21:17Speaker 3: out in a lot of winning rosters. But just to
- 21:19Speaker 3: say the fact that there was that many points out
- 21:21Speaker 3: there for the running game in this one is what
- 21:23Speaker 3: you should be happy about even though you didn't get
- 21:25Speaker 3: your ceiling at a Bucky Irving again, stop focusing on
- 21:29Speaker 3: the result, Focus on the process what you did up front,
- 21:32Speaker 3: and that was the Bucky Irving take. But I all
- 21:33Speaker 3: you talk about it a little bit where I was
- 21:35Speaker 3: all the Bucky bailout.
- 21:36Speaker 2: It was called things like that. It's just not true.
- 21:38Speaker 3: He just it's a good play. You got it in
- 21:40Speaker 3: good If it worked out, great. If it didn't work out, fine,
- 21:43Speaker 3: But I'm always get my money in there. I'm Bucky
- 21:45Speaker 3: in that spot with the slate at hand.
- 21:47Speaker 4: Yeah, a couple things too. Number one, the biggest point
- 21:50Speaker 4: there that you made is right, even when Rashad White
- 21:53Speaker 4: was in there, I mean he was already eating into
- 21:56Speaker 4: his workload already, right. They liked this guy. He got
- 21:59Speaker 4: work always. So that was number one. But number two
- 22:02Speaker 4: you also look at the running back position. Right, Tony
- 22:05Speaker 4: Pollard was the next guy. Okay, you need six hundred
- 22:07Speaker 4: dollars to get up to him. Guess who else was
- 22:09Speaker 4: down below six k? That was even semi service bowl
- 22:13Speaker 4: really nobody, right, So at the position, not only that
- 22:16Speaker 4: you talk about value at receivers, there was no value
- 22:19Speaker 4: at receivers Sean Tucker was one of the best value
- 22:23Speaker 4: quote unquote value plays on the slate, and he had
- 22:25Speaker 4: Aidan O'Connell throwing him the football, right, and so or
- 22:30Speaker 4: trade Tucker? Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, trade Tucker. So like,
- 22:33Speaker 4: that's what I'm saying from a value standpoint, It's not
- 22:36Speaker 4: you don't need Bucky Irving to go out there and
- 22:38Speaker 4: get you thirty points. That's why a lot of people
- 22:39Speaker 4: want a lot of money yesterday with a fifty percent
- 22:42Speaker 4: of player scoring eighteen, right, it is because what it
- 22:46Speaker 4: did for the rest of your lineup. And not only that,
- 22:48Speaker 4: I mean just the opportunity cost there, right, I mean
- 22:51Speaker 4: he was going to get the receiving work, he was
- 22:53Speaker 4: going to get the carries, right, did I mean did
- 22:57Speaker 4: you expect him to score eighteen points when the Buccaneers
- 23:00Speaker 4: shattered for fifty plus? No? But I mean it was
- 23:03Speaker 4: still the play. So I mean the opportunity costs was there,
- 23:06Speaker 4: but also the roster and the value in that range
- 23:10Speaker 4: was just non existent, right, So it was just so value,
- 23:13Speaker 4: right exactly.
- 23:14Speaker 2: And it wasn't gonna kill you. Everyone else was playing them.
- 23:16Speaker 3: The other thing was too when people forget this, I
- 23:18Speaker 3: talked about it directly on the show yesterday. We didn't
- 23:21Speaker 3: have the stone up because obviously it's for members, and
- 23:23Speaker 3: when we get to a certain number of likes, we
- 23:24Speaker 3: always bring it up based on good engagement, just to
- 23:26Speaker 3: help out and.
- 23:27Speaker 2: Try and pass it along. But we talked about this.
- 23:29Speaker 3: It was definitely a sneaky game, and you were allowed
- 23:31Speaker 3: to play Baker with Bucky. Lots of the best players did.
- 23:33Speaker 3: We'll see that here in a minute. But the point
- 23:35Speaker 3: was there was other ways to get different with him.
- 23:37Speaker 3: You could play the Baker stacks, the Godwin, Auton Mayfield
- 23:41Speaker 3: and get other running backs in there like Henry and
- 23:43Speaker 3: Pollard and whoever else you wanted to fit in that
- 23:45Speaker 3: made sense. Or you could play Baker with Bucky and
- 23:48Speaker 3: Godwin and Auton and that's where we'll go next. So
- 23:50Speaker 3: I certainly think it was a bit of a conversation
- 23:52Speaker 3: on a rant, but wanted to make sure. But sure
- 23:54Speaker 3: enough RBX eighty eight. Those that don't know, he is
- 23:57Speaker 3: a three time million Maker winner. He's been Lulls and
- 24:00Speaker 3: some of the other DFS shows around the space, but
- 24:02Speaker 3: certainly one of the best to ever do it. And
- 24:04Speaker 3: this guy came out and got had another Millie his
- 24:07Speaker 3: fourth he only had and I know this always going
- 24:10Speaker 3: to do this to me.
- 24:10Speaker 2: But I don't even care. I'll refresh it on my own.
- 24:12Speaker 3: Here, go to the contest dashboards, change it to five
- 24:15Speaker 3: fifty five for the MILLI. Lots of people one hundred
- 24:18Speaker 3: and fifty lineups in it. This was just to show
- 24:21Speaker 3: the running backs and stuff like that. With certain guys
- 24:24Speaker 3: like McLevin. I think he had fifty four percent. You
- 24:28Speaker 3: Deicao was at forty nine percent, Peter Gibbons forty six percent.
- 24:33Speaker 3: Shout out to our guy Ddraw he went underweight. Actually
- 24:36Speaker 3: bk Ryder seventy percent. A lot, just a lot of
- 24:39Speaker 3: good players there that had it. But just to show it.
- 24:41Speaker 3: And to go back now to the ROI here RBX
- 24:43Speaker 3: just five lineups in this tournament, so to win his
- 24:46Speaker 3: fourth million maker, and he's just playing at light picking
- 24:48Speaker 3: his five teams. It shows that you can do that.
- 24:50Speaker 3: You can apply that down.
- 24:51Speaker 2: Everyone's hell. But he has the bankroll to play twenty
- 24:53Speaker 2: five hundred bucks. You could apply it down.
- 24:55Speaker 3: Play five lineups in the twenty dollars for your hundred
- 24:58Speaker 3: bucks instead of playing in the twenty dollars five man,
- 25:00Speaker 3: instead of playing five lineups in the MILLI maker and
- 25:02Speaker 3: start there and build up your bankroll and be able
- 25:04Speaker 3: to get better at the game that way. But I
- 25:06Speaker 3: do think, you know, just to show it, he went
- 25:09Speaker 3: the Onslaught right. This was a two hundred and eight
- 25:11Speaker 3: point line up. Next up was one ninety six, so
- 25:14Speaker 3: twelve points better than the field. And this is what
- 25:17Speaker 3: I'm talking about. You wouldn't have I mean, Sean Tucker's
- 25:19Speaker 3: not in this Onslaught, but Baker, Bucky Godwin aut in
- 25:23Speaker 3: Tampa Bay. He had Tank Dell filling in for Nico Collins,
- 25:28Speaker 3: with Nico Collins out, I should say, Zay Flowers as
- 25:31Speaker 3: a piece of that Baltimore game, Bijon Robinson as a
- 25:33Speaker 3: piece of that Atlanta game, and landed on Naji Harris
- 25:37Speaker 3: at fifty eight hundred.
- 25:38Speaker 4: So nay.
- 25:41Speaker 3: Thoughts on this lineup. I am just a little bit
- 25:44Speaker 3: interested though here because I don't know it's all good.
- 25:46Speaker 4: It was.
- 25:46Speaker 3: It was correct both those games where I was gonna say,
- 25:48Speaker 3: there's no way he did that, But yeah, Bijon and
- 25:50Speaker 3: Nase in the afternoon slate, So get your thoughts on
- 25:52Speaker 3: this lineup.
- 25:53Speaker 2: But obviously another million dollar win.
- 25:54Speaker 3: He had it in some other tournaments as well, one
- 25:56Speaker 3: one hundred k, all that stuff everything from there.
- 26:00Speaker 4: Yeah, so I looked at his contest exposures a little bit.
- 26:02Speaker 4: He had two Baker teams, one Jordan Love team, one CJ.
- 26:06Speaker 4: Strol team, and then one Jayden Daniel's team. So the
- 26:11Speaker 4: whole thing of yeah, you can apply this down. If
- 26:13Speaker 4: you're playing twenty five bucks in a slate, why not
- 26:16Speaker 4: play instead of playing one dart in the million maker
- 26:19Speaker 4: and a five dollars single entry, you can throw five
- 26:21Speaker 4: lineups and apply a similar process to our listener league, right,
- 26:25Speaker 4: our our ship nation, the big Guy contest. Right, that's
- 26:28Speaker 4: still twelve hundred and fifty dollars the first place, right,
- 26:30Speaker 4: so you can still apply that. He obviously did this
- 26:33Speaker 4: and picked his spots. The onslaught stack, I mean, makes
- 26:37Speaker 4: a lot of sense. We already talked about it. It's
- 26:38Speaker 4: also he's going against five thousand lineups versus one hundred
- 26:41Speaker 4: and seventy or two hundred thousand lineups as well, So
- 26:44Speaker 4: building for your contest, we talk about that all the time. Right,
- 26:48Speaker 4: when you're building a lineup like this, you're saying, Tampa
- 26:50Speaker 4: Bay smashing, why not throw in the chalk defense. It's fine,
- 26:53Speaker 4: because you also know you have four other pieces with
- 26:56Speaker 4: that chalk defense in Baker Mayfield's sub five percent, right,
- 27:00Speaker 4: know that that makes a lot of sense grabbing Zay Flowers,
- 27:02Speaker 4: who is basically the Chris Godwin on I mean Jay
- 27:05Speaker 4: Flowers is game script independent there in Baltimore. I mean
- 27:09Speaker 4: it's the only receiver really Lamar trust and has right, Yeah,
- 27:12Speaker 4: Bateman's in there, likely and Andrews, but realistically, Jay Flowers
- 27:16Speaker 4: is always check number one if it's not done on
- 27:18Speaker 4: the ground with with Derrick Henry and Lamar zave followers.
- 27:22Speaker 4: Is just he can rack up all those catches, all
- 27:24Speaker 4: those PPR points. You can't spend the money to get
- 27:27Speaker 4: up to a Henry in a build like this, or
- 27:29Speaker 4: to get up to a Lamar like this, So still
- 27:31Speaker 4: grabbing a piece that has a four ceiling combination there.
- 27:34Speaker 4: I like that a lot. Tank Dell I thought was
- 27:36Speaker 4: a really good play yesterday. He expected Houston to pretty
- 27:39Speaker 4: much roll in that game, and everybody's been trying to
- 27:43Speaker 4: make Tank del work for forever, right, and now no
- 27:46Speaker 4: Nico Collins in there in the game that they should roll.
- 27:49Speaker 4: I thought that was a great play. And then obviously
- 27:51Speaker 4: Bijon was one of the best values of the slate yesterday.
- 27:54Speaker 4: I'm actually surprised he came in. I mean, obviously he's
- 27:58Speaker 4: he's higher owned in this content because it's less entries
- 28:01Speaker 4: and it's a sharper field, But in some of the
- 28:03Speaker 4: main stuff, I mean, he was like twenty something percent owned,
- 28:05Speaker 4: which I thought was crazy against Carolina. But I think
- 28:09Speaker 4: that's just a tale of everyone writing Vijon off right,
- 28:12Speaker 4: all this guy sucks at football. He's terrible because he
- 28:14Speaker 4: didn't get there the last three times I played him, right,
- 28:17Speaker 4: But now he's still got the nut match up in
- 28:18Speaker 4: the game where everybody was stacking up Kirk Cousins, they
- 28:21Speaker 4: were stacking up Ray, Ray McCloud, Drake London like Darnell Mooney.
- 28:25Speaker 4: So it's also an ownership pivot off of the passing
- 28:29Speaker 4: game that that was the quote unquote biggest chalk game
- 28:32Speaker 4: of the slate going into into lock.
- 28:35Speaker 2: Yeah. I was just trying to see too. I know
- 28:37Speaker 2: that where's he here?
- 28:40Speaker 3: I was how many points did Deontay Johnson score nineteen
- 28:45Speaker 3: point eight?
- 28:45Speaker 2: Yeah, this is another thing too.
- 28:47Speaker 3: I know that the tank Dell could have just left
- 28:48Speaker 3: the hundred bucks and had a secondary stack if you
- 28:51Speaker 3: wanted to go that route, but it would have been
- 28:52Speaker 3: more ownership. And that's all I wanted to bring that up.
- 28:54Speaker 3: That was gonna be my next talking point here. So
- 28:56Speaker 3: I'll answer Daniel's question in a second, but just to
- 28:58Speaker 3: show it, h two things. One the constant theme we've
- 29:02Speaker 3: seen naids and I'll get to it when I go
- 29:03Speaker 3: through my lineup later. But these four guys under ten percent,
- 29:06Speaker 3: even in the higher stakes, he had Baker Mayfield three
- 29:09Speaker 3: point four, Nause six point two, Godwin under ten, and
- 29:13Speaker 3: tank Dell under ten. Well, the secondary stack works better
- 29:16Speaker 3: there and doesn't necessarily work better would have got him
- 29:19Speaker 3: like a one point one more, but it makes sense
- 29:20Speaker 3: for how some building just makes their life a little
- 29:22Speaker 3: bit easier. He would have been much higher on Deontae
- 29:25Speaker 3: was much higher owned than Tank Dell in this contest.
- 29:27Speaker 2: So there's that. So I like that.
- 29:29Speaker 3: Also, the true definition of it's not who you play,
- 29:31Speaker 3: it's how you play him fifty three, sixteen, eighteen, thirty one, thirty.
- 29:37Speaker 3: But no one's playing the five bucks and the Baker
- 29:39Speaker 3: three percent slices into all of that, so it's anyone
- 29:42Speaker 3: who's playing Baker is likely playing Godwin and Aughton or
- 29:46Speaker 3: Baker Bucky Godwin or Baker Bucky Oughton or something like that.
- 29:50Speaker 2: They're stopping and not going all the way.
- 29:52Speaker 3: They don't feel comfortable plugging the d in, they don't
- 29:54Speaker 3: feel comfortable plugging a fifth man in. They're trying to
- 29:57Speaker 3: leverage up or go down. And so this one made
- 29:59Speaker 3: perfect sense to me the way you're doing it. Obviously
- 30:01Speaker 3: the main million maker we looked at the twenty dollars lottery,
- 30:04Speaker 3: that was the same idea. If he had to just
- 30:05Speaker 3: played Baker over over Love, but it would have made
- 30:10Speaker 3: you more sense than a two hundred thousand person field
- 30:12Speaker 3: to maybe get Tucker in there and say, okay there
- 30:14Speaker 3: at least I understand it better.
- 30:15Speaker 2: But the Onslaught ended up making sense.
- 30:17Speaker 3: And if you're not playing Atlanta Carolina for the passing game,
- 30:20Speaker 3: get bije On in even at ownership already doesn't matter.
- 30:23Speaker 2: If you're not playing much of the Baltimore Washington.
- 30:25Speaker 3: Game, get Zay Flowers in and Nase you just got
- 30:27Speaker 3: the job done at fifty eight hundred. So I mean,
- 30:29Speaker 3: this is a great lineup all around, some key components
- 30:32Speaker 3: to it. I thought this one made a lot of sense.
- 30:34Speaker 3: Anything else you have to add on this one before
- 30:35Speaker 3: we keep going.
- 30:37Speaker 4: No, not only that, I mean the Naja Harris was in.
- 30:39Speaker 4: I mean he was in a good spot, right, I
- 30:41Speaker 4: mean overall, I'm still running back one there. I know
- 30:44Speaker 4: Jalen Warren and stuff like that was coming back. So overall, yeah,
- 30:47Speaker 4: but nothing more to add there.
- 30:49Speaker 2: All right, Let's get a guy Hoopster up here quick.
- 30:51Speaker 3: He's a twenty first place in this one. And this
- 30:55Speaker 3: is again just having to look at it. I don't
- 30:56Speaker 3: think again as as people always talk about with Hoop
- 30:59Speaker 3: and you know his line ups, maybe a little bit
- 31:01Speaker 3: more chalking them, but still three nine, ten. Maybe he
- 31:04Speaker 3: could have went one more spot deep. But again, it's
- 31:06Speaker 3: not who you play, it's how you play him. When
- 31:08Speaker 3: you're going with Bucky, with Baker, with Godwin, when you're
- 31:11Speaker 3: running three Atlanta Falcons without Kirk Cousins, Drake London, Ray mcclod, Beijon,
- 31:17Speaker 3: I mean, it's not that far off from someone you know,
- 31:19Speaker 3: it's what somebody else is doing.
- 31:20Speaker 2: He's putting the d in with it.
- 31:21Speaker 3: So it was a four with a three, and then
- 31:24Speaker 3: he got Pollard and Jake Ferguson in there, and it's
- 31:27Speaker 3: unique it's up there in the top two. I mean
- 31:29Speaker 3: the end of the game they got Algier in. They
- 31:31Speaker 3: had two different drives that they could have scored on.
- 31:34Speaker 3: He only missed the.
- 31:35Speaker 2: Top five by eight points, and the top completely, I
- 31:38Speaker 2: mean maybe not getting to RBX, but a top three
- 31:41Speaker 2: finish if they had a went.
- 31:42Speaker 3: I mean, he had three guys covered down in that
- 31:44Speaker 3: end zone and they just kept going to Algier. So
- 31:46Speaker 3: it's the way it goes sometimes. But in general, just
- 31:48Speaker 3: thoughts here in NADS because this was what I talked
- 31:49Speaker 3: about earlier, where it was almost like the Tampa Bay
- 31:52Speaker 3: with the Baltimore stuff.
- 31:53Speaker 2: He just would have.
- 31:54Speaker 3: Did it with the Tampa Bay with the Atlanta but
- 31:56Speaker 3: still got to Ferguson and Pollard, two really good plays
- 31:58Speaker 3: on paper onate going in.
- 32:00Speaker 2: Obviously Ferguson did not work out.
- 32:02Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, there's a lot of chalk in this lineup.
- 32:05Speaker 4: But he built it differently. He went in basically in
- 32:07Speaker 4: the two team parlay right Tampa in Atlanta two target games.
- 32:10Speaker 4: He built them differently. How many people are playing Drake London, Raybray,
- 32:14Speaker 4: mclown and Bijon together in the same team. Not many?
- 32:17Speaker 4: And then how many people are playing four bucks or
- 32:21Speaker 4: three bucks with the defense not many, and then you
- 32:23Speaker 4: just rounded out with two plays regardless of their Chalky,
- 32:26Speaker 4: they're two of the best plays going into the slate
- 32:28Speaker 4: on paper right with Jake Ferguson and Tony Pollard. He
- 32:31Speaker 4: knows he's fine because the way he overall constructed the
- 32:34Speaker 4: lineup is going to be unique. So overall it's a
- 32:37Speaker 4: great build. And it goes back to you need less
- 32:39Speaker 4: things to go right when they go right in a
- 32:41Speaker 4: script like this. In a build like this, you're saying, hey,
- 32:43Speaker 4: Tampa goes out and rolls them. It's done through Bucky
- 32:45Speaker 4: on the ground and in the receiving game, Chris Godwin
- 32:48Speaker 4: is just the PPR monster. Baker, like I said, outside
- 32:51Speaker 4: of Week three, has been a top five quarterback, top
- 32:53Speaker 4: three quarterback every other week for five weeks straight. You
- 32:57Speaker 4: know he's going in low own despite everybody wanting to
- 32:59Speaker 4: play some of these these these plays on the Tampa side.
- 33:03Speaker 4: And then hey, Atlanta rolls Carolina, one of the worst
- 33:06Speaker 4: teams in football, right, and you got all their guys.
- 33:09Speaker 4: Drake London also dropped a touchdown or got a touchdown
- 33:12Speaker 4: hit out of his hand right as well. Ray Ray
- 33:17Speaker 4: Ray McCloud has been been the checkdown guy, the possession guy,
- 33:20Speaker 4: the Wandelle Robinson if you will, of the Atlanta offense,
- 33:24Speaker 4: and then Bijeon right in a smash spot. So overall,
- 33:26Speaker 4: great bill. Despite the chalk, he built and used the
- 33:29Speaker 4: chalk differently, so it's not it's again not who you play,
- 33:32Speaker 4: it's how you play them. He used a lot of
- 33:34Speaker 4: chalk here, but he built it unique and I'm pretty
- 33:37Speaker 4: sure there was nobody else that had a lineup the
- 33:39Speaker 4: same as that in this contest.
- 33:41Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a more argument.
- 33:43Speaker 3: Well, I would expect to see cousins there, not really
- 33:45Speaker 3: when you get all those bucks in there.
- 33:46Speaker 2: So it's kind of like.
- 33:47Speaker 3: Could have went either way and moved a couple of
- 33:48Speaker 3: dollars around here and there. But at least it was
- 33:50Speaker 3: two and two combined, whereas the other one the other side,
- 33:52Speaker 3: we didn't see any Green Bay guys, for example, in
- 33:54Speaker 3: that twenty dollars million maker.
- 33:55Speaker 2: Another note, Bijon second highest right.
- 33:59Speaker 3: When it came to the the optimal on the stone,
- 34:01Speaker 3: it was another thing.
- 34:02Speaker 2: It was do or don't. We don't care about the ownership. Obviously.
- 34:04Speaker 3: He was even higher on in a five to fifty
- 34:05Speaker 3: five million maker. People caught onto this pretty quick. But
- 34:08Speaker 3: the point is the tools are covering it and they're
- 34:10Speaker 3: having it covered there.
- 34:11Speaker 2: It's not about the result. It was the opportunity all
- 34:13Speaker 2: of that.
- 34:13Speaker 4: Like if Valgierre gaun in there too, Los London's right
- 34:16Speaker 4: there massive as well.
- 34:17Speaker 3: Right, yeah, this is where I think again Hoop was
- 34:19Speaker 3: fine going with this stuff.
- 34:20Speaker 2: Obviously it was a great spot.
- 34:21Speaker 3: The other thing I kept talking about all week is
- 34:23Speaker 3: how it made things work. That was the key, So
- 34:26Speaker 3: you know it let you get all the other pieces
- 34:28Speaker 3: in there that you wanted to off the slate. When
- 34:30Speaker 3: you are, you know, down to a few games and
- 34:31Speaker 3: just targeting two or three games. That's a way that
- 34:33Speaker 3: you can get the job done by finding the spot
- 34:35Speaker 3: and then just stacking over top of it. Lead you said,
- 34:37Speaker 3: just a really big parlay that he built that was
- 34:39Speaker 3: like really three games, give or take.
- 34:41Speaker 2: So let's move on.
- 34:42Speaker 3: Let's go to our guy Kenny, Like I said, legendary
- 34:44Speaker 3: week from him, this was the Thunderdome.
- 34:46Speaker 2: Obviously, you need a lot.
- 34:47Speaker 3: Less to win the higher dollars, smaller stakes, more chalk
- 34:50Speaker 3: involved than anywhere else. Guys like Bijeon seventy percent Bucky
- 34:53Speaker 3: eighty percent. Like people worried about these plays and the
- 34:55Speaker 3: higher stakes, you can get away with this. He's still
- 34:57Speaker 3: won by over ten points. He won a hundred twenty
- 35:00Speaker 3: five thousand cash with this lineup, and then he won
- 35:03Speaker 3: the FFWC seat on top, so it was a two
- 35:05Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars on paper day but one hundred and
- 35:07Speaker 3: twenty five thousand dollars real money and then the ticket
- 35:10Speaker 3: on top. He also won another twenty five or thirty
- 35:12Speaker 3: K in the Fantasy Racing World Championship. He made it
- 35:15Speaker 3: to the live final there for NASCAR. Just an absolute
- 35:17Speaker 3: beast across all sports. I was just with them and
- 35:20Speaker 3: Rio when those guys were both in the MLB Live
- 35:23Speaker 3: Final in Chicago. So he's just killing it across all
- 35:25Speaker 3: sports and awesome, you know, lucky to have him in
- 35:27Speaker 3: our discord.
- 35:28Speaker 2: But this was his lineup. Dads, and I really liked
- 35:29Speaker 2: this one.
- 35:30Speaker 3: I know you had one similar, so talk to us
- 35:32Speaker 3: a little bit about this build. I thought it was
- 35:33Speaker 3: very sharp, especially for the higher stakes.
- 35:36Speaker 4: Yeah, especially for higher stakes. And I built, like I said,
- 35:39Speaker 4: I built very similar. So going back to our tools, right,
- 35:42Speaker 4: you look at Baltimore's path the defense and the F
- 35:44Speaker 4: on the report card. Thinking back to school, f's not good. Right.
- 35:47Speaker 4: He's also on the other side of that game, right
- 35:50Speaker 4: where people are going to Lamar, people are going to
- 35:52Speaker 4: Derrick Henry Right, So going to the Jayden and Daniels
- 35:55Speaker 4: with rushing upside cheaper than Lamar going against an F
- 35:58Speaker 4: rated pass defense, right in a game where you're expecting them, right,
- 36:02Speaker 4: Ravens are at home, they should be winning this game.
- 36:03Speaker 4: You're expecting Jayden Daniels to have to throw through there?
- 36:06Speaker 4: Who's he gonna throw to Zach Ertz, who's also a
- 36:08Speaker 4: pivot off of Jake Ferguson there, right, for much cheaper.
- 36:12Speaker 4: And if he wasn't going to Jake Ferguson, right, he's
- 36:15Speaker 4: still correlating in that Dallas game with Jalen Tolbert, who's
- 36:19Speaker 4: the same price. And then David Montgomery right, just got paid. Right,
- 36:23Speaker 4: If you're not going to a Monro Jamison Williams go
- 36:27Speaker 4: off all of those pass casters, why can't it just
- 36:30Speaker 4: be David Montgomery on the ground right, can get you
- 36:32Speaker 4: the two touchdowns, which he did. And then on the
- 36:35Speaker 4: other side, Jalen Tolbert right, dealing with injuries, right, No,
- 36:38Speaker 4: Brandon Cooks, Jalen Tolbert's been a huge part of this
- 36:40Speaker 4: offense despite whatever people want to say, Oh, the Cowboys
- 36:43Speaker 4: offense has been bad, but Tolbert's getting all the snaps,
- 36:46Speaker 4: he's getting a ton of targets, and he was five
- 36:47Speaker 4: k as a direct leverage right off to that same team.
- 36:50Speaker 4: So overall, amazing secondary stack there with the Jaden Daniels,
- 36:54Speaker 4: mclaura and zach Ertz running back with Zay Flowers because
- 36:57Speaker 4: you can't get up to Henry, you don't have the salary.
- 36:59Speaker 4: You're just taking the possession guy there and then plugging
- 37:02Speaker 4: in the chalk right, Bucky in Tampa as blockers in
- 37:05Speaker 4: a field that is thirty thirty percent or thirty people, right,
- 37:09Speaker 4: you know, right, ninety percent on the field is going
- 37:13Speaker 4: to have Bucky. So you just plug him in. He's
- 37:15Speaker 4: a blocker, and you're throw in Tampa and just because
- 37:17Speaker 4: it fits, it fits the build, right. So overall, amazing
- 37:21Speaker 4: build I've built, very similar and Kenny, congratulations on a
- 37:25Speaker 4: huge day.
- 37:26Speaker 3: Yeah, another thing too, to go back to the stone
- 37:27Speaker 3: you talked about it, but I mean, I love using
- 37:29Speaker 3: our tools to show this off because it was what
- 37:31Speaker 3: you said, like Jaden McLaurin ertz going against a pass
- 37:35Speaker 3: F you're going the other way, it's it's a pass
- 37:37Speaker 3: B plus. But who really care, You're just getting the
- 37:39Speaker 3: run back and so you can afford some of the
- 37:40Speaker 3: other stuff really good optimal on Zay Flowers.
- 37:44Speaker 2: What was the other stuff?
- 37:45Speaker 3: You go Obviously we talked about Bucky being the highest
- 37:47Speaker 3: we've got all week, so I mean he made sense.
- 37:49Speaker 3: The Bucks were the highest defense we had all week,
- 37:51Speaker 3: regardless of ownership. It's how he put it together.
- 37:53Speaker 2: Then you go down.
- 37:54Speaker 3: He had Bijon, who we talked about being right there
- 37:56Speaker 3: behind Bucky and you land on the last game, and
- 37:58Speaker 3: he wanted a piece of this very clearly. If you're
- 38:01Speaker 3: not going to the ferguson absolute chalk, why not go
- 38:04Speaker 3: to Tolbert at way less. Ownership still had a decent
- 38:07Speaker 3: enough optimal score was you know turquoise for us, which
- 38:10Speaker 3: is gonna be there's upside there, what you know what
- 38:12Speaker 3: it is? It could be the score that he got,
- 38:14Speaker 3: which was an eight point three, But he came in
- 38:16Speaker 3: as only like I think only one or two people
- 38:19Speaker 3: in the whole tournament played him. And then on the
- 38:21Speaker 3: other side, Montgomery not as good as Gibbs, but five
- 38:23Speaker 3: hundred bucks less on the optimal stuff, but a very
- 38:25Speaker 3: similar projection, very similar low ownership, and realistically it's a
- 38:30Speaker 3: C plus rush defense, a C plus pass that's good
- 38:33Speaker 3: for Tolbert and for Montgomery. It's all how you round
- 38:36Speaker 3: it out, and I thought that was the key. Jaden
- 38:38Speaker 3: McLaurin ertz run back with a get a nice secondary
- 38:42Speaker 3: stack with Bucky and the d get the other good
- 38:44Speaker 3: running back spot in the Atlantic Caroline. He covered all
- 38:46Speaker 3: the good games of the two biggest totals on the slate.
- 38:50Speaker 3: He had one, two, three, four, five six. Keep it simple,
- 38:55Speaker 3: especially in the higher stike, smaller fields. This works well
- 38:57Speaker 3: in satellites as well, So if you're taking something from
- 38:59Speaker 3: this satellites, this can really work well. In the other
- 39:02Speaker 3: game we all loved was Atlanta Carolina. Once you go
- 39:05Speaker 3: to that with Beijon, let's see where it lands me. Oh,
- 39:07Speaker 3: it's on the best play that everybody on the slate
- 39:09Speaker 3: is playing that We've just spent enough time on the
- 39:10Speaker 3: show already. And the defense, Yeah, it's chalk, but I'm
- 39:13Speaker 3: just gonna plug it in with it. In a field
- 39:14Speaker 3: like this, you can get away with a whole lot more.
- 39:16Speaker 3: I thought this was an incredible build.
- 39:17Speaker 2: Shut up.
- 39:18Speaker 3: The Kenny deserves everything and more that he received, so
- 39:20Speaker 3: congrats to him on a huge day.
- 39:22Speaker 2: I thought that was good.
- 39:23Speaker 3: I want to go back for two seconds, Daniel, when
- 39:26Speaker 3: you go to Fantasy Labs under NFL contest dashboard is.
- 39:30Speaker 2: Where you can find this stuff.
- 39:31Speaker 3: And then when we go to the Perfect Lineup, I
- 39:33Speaker 3: don't have it up anymore, but it's line star app
- 39:35Speaker 3: dot com, and then you can just go under NFL
- 39:38Speaker 3: and find perfect lineup that's free as well to go
- 39:40Speaker 3: and check out.
- 39:41Speaker 2: So hopefully that helps you. Scary. You're always here supporting.
- 39:44Speaker 2: We appreciate you as always. I know you and I don't.
- 39:46Speaker 3: Always agree, but we have fun and we're it's all
- 39:48Speaker 3: in good fun. I would just say that we're joking
- 39:51Speaker 3: about it. The people there is it's sad. In the
- 39:53Speaker 3: year twenty twenty four, almost twenty twenty five, there's people
- 39:55Speaker 3: out there to think that's possible or it's legit, but
- 39:58Speaker 3: it's more just they don't understand and how that could
- 40:00Speaker 3: be truly possible. We went through how it's possible. There's
- 40:03Speaker 3: no cheating going on, it's just the facts. It is
- 40:06Speaker 3: what it is there's other cheating going on, I think,
- 40:08Speaker 3: but I'll say that for another day, but not that
- 40:11Speaker 3: type of a cheating that we're talking about there where
- 40:12Speaker 3: people think he got some ability to edit the lineup
- 40:15Speaker 3: after Meanwhile, the game that was in question was also
- 40:18Speaker 3: the first game, one of the first set on the slate.
- 40:20Speaker 2: How did he change it after that? It's just nuts
- 40:22Speaker 2: to me. So all right, Nate's I am going to
- 40:25Speaker 2: go to this.
- 40:26Speaker 3: We got lots of time, but just to make sure,
- 40:27Speaker 3: I want to get this one in. I want to
- 40:30Speaker 3: show off one of my teams. I guess I'll start here.
- 40:33Speaker 3: Bad day for me with the DAK lineups. I played
- 40:36Speaker 3: a ton of DAK, but I just want to show
- 40:37Speaker 3: again portfolio management.
- 40:39Speaker 2: DAK was my main core. I played him a bunch
- 40:41Speaker 2: here with my fifty dollars single leture. I couldn't.
- 40:43Speaker 3: I had it in a bunch of places, big cues,
- 40:45Speaker 3: all that stuff. It failed miserably. This was the lineup
- 40:48Speaker 3: I'm willing to take on a lot more risk when
- 40:50Speaker 3: it comes to that, even though the ownership was there.
- 40:53Speaker 3: I'll tell you how I got away with it on
- 40:54Speaker 3: this one and sort of was okay with it versus
- 40:57Speaker 3: the next one. I think it was a big mistake,
- 40:58Speaker 3: and I'll get to that in a second. But overstacking
- 41:01Speaker 3: Dak right the dak overstack, if you will Dak Ferguson
- 41:06Speaker 3: Lamb run it back with Jamison Williams talking about that
- 41:09Speaker 3: plenty on the show. If I was playing Jamison Williams,
- 41:11Speaker 3: I wanted him involved in those stacks. I think he
- 41:13Speaker 3: speeds up the game. I was trying to get to
- 41:15Speaker 3: a little Cavante Turpin here, hoping he would have a
- 41:17Speaker 3: better day. I knew he would cut into this ownership
- 41:20Speaker 3: along with Jamison Williams quite a bit. I wasn't sure
- 41:23Speaker 3: if Eckler would actually get that high being in the
- 41:25Speaker 3: same place as Bucky. So the move I tried to
- 41:27Speaker 3: pull here was played both of them together, get the
- 41:30Speaker 3: secondary stack and kind of following the footsteps of my
- 41:33Speaker 3: guy Kenny there where Dak Eckler two, let's just do
- 41:37Speaker 3: the numbers. Three, four, five, six, seven plays of the
- 41:41Speaker 3: nine were from the two biggest totals in the slate,
- 41:44Speaker 3: and then landing.
- 41:44Speaker 2: The Bucky Tampa Diee slot.
- 41:46Speaker 3: I was okay with it because Turpin alone the other
- 41:49Speaker 3: setup of how I had I wasn't sure what other
- 41:51Speaker 3: guys would get.
- 41:51Speaker 2: To but this was my main, one of my main
- 41:53Speaker 2: lineups and did not come through.
- 41:55Speaker 3: But I still managed to have a profitable day and
- 41:57Speaker 3: I got three tickets to the ultimate, the thirty three
- 42:00Speaker 3: to thirty three. So now if the four tickets in
- 42:02Speaker 3: that for the end of December were two million bucks
- 42:04Speaker 3: up top. I'll show more on that in a second.
- 42:06Speaker 3: But you see what's going on here, right, n I
- 42:08Speaker 3: don't think gonna spend too much time on it, but obviously,
- 42:10Speaker 3: yeah makes sense.
- 42:13Speaker 4: Yeah, overall makes sense. Just the oversack right of Dak.
- 42:17Speaker 4: You knew people were pretty much going cutting it off
- 42:20Speaker 4: at Lamb or or Tobert and Ferguson, right, they weren't
- 42:24Speaker 4: adding that fourth piece in Turpin who is involved overall?
- 42:28Speaker 4: So yeah, overall good breed. And then yeah, I love
- 42:30Speaker 4: the Jamison play, Right, how does Jameson get there a bomb? Well,
- 42:34Speaker 4: what happens when he catches a bomb for a touchdown
- 42:36Speaker 4: or two bombs for a touchdown? Dak's got to come
- 42:38Speaker 4: back and sling it through the air, no doubt or
- 42:40Speaker 4: none of that, zeke, none of that crap on the ground, right,
- 42:42Speaker 4: And you got three pass catchers, they only three pass
- 42:45Speaker 4: catchers basically in that offense left. So overall good good,
- 42:49Speaker 4: good for sure.
- 42:50Speaker 3: And I just brought up the fifty dollars singlender because
- 42:52Speaker 3: it easier to find, and this morning Labs was down
- 42:54Speaker 3: on something like right now, it still doesn't have the
- 42:56Speaker 3: twenty dollars million maker where you can actually see Joe
- 42:58Speaker 3: nip one sixty six as the winner, so I just
- 43:00Speaker 3: brought it up here. Obviously played this in satellite's higher
- 43:03Speaker 3: stake smaller stuff, I like it better for that. I
- 43:06Speaker 3: will add one point the Turpin thing, like, I don't
- 43:08Speaker 3: think there's enough leverage in it for every tournament. Sometimes
- 43:10Speaker 3: I'll just throw it in. I mean, it's only forty
- 43:12Speaker 3: five hundred. I think it was enough that it could
- 43:14Speaker 3: still get there, especially if that big game stack went off.
- 43:16Speaker 3: But obviously I like this a lot more in the
- 43:18Speaker 3: higher dollars smaller fields because I knew Turpin and Williams
- 43:21Speaker 3: were enough to set it off. It still just hit
- 43:23Speaker 3: the main spots that I thought could go off for
- 43:25Speaker 3: the day. And obviously Detroit did put up forty seven points.
- 43:28Speaker 3: Unfortunately the dak side and the Dallas side just did
- 43:30Speaker 3: not come along. So just to note that it was
- 43:33Speaker 3: just where I found it for the purpose of this video.
- 43:35Speaker 3: But let's go to another lineup I had, and I
- 43:37Speaker 3: talked a lot about this on the show yesterday if
- 43:39Speaker 3: anybody watched it on Sunday morning. We talked about the
- 43:42Speaker 3: Atlantic Carolina game and how you could flip it, and
- 43:45Speaker 3: I spent tons of time mentioning that the Dalton side
- 43:48Speaker 3: just would not be as owned, and even got some
- 43:50Speaker 3: surprising ownership on Deontay Johnson. I didn't think maybe it
- 43:53Speaker 3: was the Q tag, maybe it was the other guys
- 43:55Speaker 3: in that range, but he ended up coming in even
- 43:57Speaker 3: lower owned than expected. And I'll bring the sign up
- 44:00Speaker 3: up because the good, the bad, and the ugly. Thirty
- 44:02Speaker 3: fifth place first was obviously one hundred k. It's the
- 44:05Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty dollars three Max. I love this lineup,
- 44:07Speaker 3: but Dalton, Deontae and Sanders was the way that I
- 44:13Speaker 3: could get to this game if Bijon got stuff going
- 44:15Speaker 3: on the other side. And obviously these low ownerships would
- 44:18Speaker 3: cut into the Cousins, the Moonies, the London's, the other
- 44:21Speaker 3: side of that game, McLeod the third and all that,
- 44:24Speaker 3: and so it did have a quarterback stack bring back.
- 44:27Speaker 3: It was Bijon, So I'm not sure why they're exiting that.
- 44:29Speaker 3: I would really to hit on all the sort of
- 44:31Speaker 3: stuff that I look at. But I'll note the mistake
- 44:32Speaker 3: in a second. But I was fine with flipping the
- 44:35Speaker 3: bill that way and just hoping there was no tremble.
- 44:37Speaker 3: I know they activated Ian Thomas, but I talked about
- 44:39Speaker 3: this directly on the show. I said at twenty six hundred,
- 44:42Speaker 3: I think it was actually our guy Billy from earlier
- 44:43Speaker 3: who had mentioned it, and I said, I'm fine with it.
- 44:45Speaker 3: I get what Billy was saying, and I didn't disagree.
- 44:47Speaker 3: I just said I'm still okay with it because it
- 44:49Speaker 3: flips the bill.
- 44:49Speaker 2: So I like that.
- 44:50Speaker 3: The Zay and Terry McLaurin, I think is fine. Obviously
- 44:53Speaker 3: a bunch of ownership on them. Bucky and the Tampadee
- 44:56Speaker 3: again for a smaller field. This one has thirty seven
- 44:59Speaker 3: hundred entries. I really thought I was good. In hindsight,
- 45:03Speaker 3: the mistake, the ugly is what I could have won.
- 45:05Speaker 3: The mistake the bad, I would say, is going back
- 45:08Speaker 3: to what I talked about earlier. You don't always need it.
- 45:10Speaker 3: There is no hard and fast rule, but you do
- 45:12Speaker 3: want to look for some leverage in your bills, and
- 45:13Speaker 3: because I had some of the higher chalk pieces in it.
- 45:16Speaker 3: The mistakes that I think I made two of them one.
- 45:19Speaker 3: I talked about this on the show, and I went
- 45:21Speaker 3: against my own rule just because I had the money
- 45:23Speaker 3: left over. I really didn't like Lamb yesterday as a
- 45:26Speaker 3: one off. I talked about this plenty at that price,
- 45:29Speaker 3: at that ownership. I'd said, it's like, it's basically like
- 45:32Speaker 3: Jamar Chase, can he get there? It's da, I mean,
- 45:34Speaker 3: it's ceedee Lamb. He can get you eleven catches for
- 45:36Speaker 3: one eighty and zero and still have a good day.
- 45:38Speaker 3: And then it's whatever. Its hindsight, but it was my
- 45:40Speaker 3: own take, it's my own process. I went against my
- 45:43Speaker 3: own process. I did not really want Lamb without having Dack,
- 45:48Speaker 3: and in this case, I still went to him just
- 45:50Speaker 3: because I had the money. In hindsight, what I would
- 45:52Speaker 3: like to do is I would like to chop him
- 45:54Speaker 3: down to like eighteen percent or sixteen percent ownership with
- 45:58Speaker 3: Derrick Henry, and I would like to move Zay Flowers
- 46:01Speaker 3: up to somebody else, whether it was Godwin or someone
- 46:04Speaker 3: else there that I could have played at seventy one
- 46:06Speaker 3: hundred I mean, how much was was aj Brown yesterday?
- 46:11Speaker 2: Was he seventy one hundred or was he eighty.
- 46:13Speaker 4: One seventy eight hundred? Davante Smith was sixty eight hundred.
- 46:19Speaker 2: Okay, here it is Reid. Here's an example.
- 46:21Speaker 3: So I wish and I don't know what that would
- 46:23Speaker 3: have cost me or made me, because Reid didn't do
- 46:24Speaker 3: as much as Zay, but obviously Derek Henry did more
- 46:28Speaker 3: than Lamb. I'm just saying, in hindsight, I would have
- 46:30Speaker 3: liked Henry with McLaurin and Zay flowers up to a
- 46:34Speaker 3: read or who else could it be?
- 46:36Speaker 4: Here?
- 46:36Speaker 3: Seven K Reader Godwin, I guess is what it would
- 46:39Speaker 3: have been, even DeVante Smith. I'm just saying I would
- 46:41Speaker 3: have liked to added the one more leverage piece that
- 46:44Speaker 3: not as many people were on. Reid would have had
- 46:45Speaker 3: similar but Henry would have significantly cut down on Lamb,
- 46:49Speaker 3: and I wish I followed that rule. It would have
- 46:50Speaker 3: been an even better day waiting for this lineup down
- 46:53Speaker 3: the stretch could have been a lot better. But this
- 46:54Speaker 3: did win me a couple tickets into the thirty three
- 46:57Speaker 3: thirty three Ultimate, So you know this is one of
- 46:59Speaker 3: my other main lineups. I talked about plenty on the show,
- 47:02Speaker 3: flipping the build and playing that side.
- 47:03Speaker 2: Any thoughts from you needs on this one.
- 47:05Speaker 4: Yeah, overall flipping the build, I thought that was a
- 47:07Speaker 4: great point, right, and it's you're not playing crazy off
- 47:11Speaker 4: the wall plays right Like people are expecting Kirk Cousins
- 47:15Speaker 4: in that Atlanta game to go crazy. How does that
- 47:17Speaker 4: game go crazy? Well, you got to expect Carolina's got
- 47:20Speaker 4: to score some points, right, Andy Dalton, Deontay Johnson, And
- 47:23Speaker 4: then I was on Jatavian Sanders. I thought he was great.
- 47:26Speaker 4: Not only did he flip the position right, but he's
- 47:28Speaker 4: still heavily involved in this offense. Right, and he's twenty
- 47:32Speaker 4: six hundred at a onesie position that you can just
- 47:35Speaker 4: punt off.
- 47:35Speaker 3: Right.
- 47:35Speaker 4: Has tighten been great? No, it's been the story of
- 47:37Speaker 4: the season all year. Yeah. Obviously Cole Comet and things
- 47:41Speaker 4: like that changed that yesterday, but overall, it's still a
- 47:44Speaker 4: onesie position and he makes sense in your stack, right,
- 47:47Speaker 4: He's still going to get targets, no tremble, Right, it's
- 47:50Speaker 4: Deontay Johnson Sanders in that offense that the Lamb play. Yeah,
- 47:54Speaker 4: does it suck to cost you forty grand?
- 47:56Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 47:56Speaker 4: But you also picked up two tickets into two million
- 47:59Speaker 4: dollars the first place contest. So hey, yeah, you might've
- 48:02Speaker 4: gave up forty grands here, but that could you could
- 48:05Speaker 4: make it up in tenfold, right, come come. That is the.
- 48:07Speaker 2: Benefit of playing the satellites.
- 48:09Speaker 3: I talk about the secrets of satellites and adding them
- 48:11Speaker 3: in is if it doesn't get you all the way there,
- 48:12Speaker 3: Like obviously twelve to fifty returned enough. You can only
- 48:15Speaker 3: put four fifty into this contest. So in this tournament
- 48:18Speaker 3: it was a nice eight hundred dollars return. Makes up
- 48:20Speaker 3: for some losses in the twenty dollars million maker, et cetera,
- 48:22Speaker 3: et cetera, and had a small profitable day cash wise,
- 48:25Speaker 3: but tickets wise picked up three between this lineup twice
- 48:28Speaker 3: and a Jaden Daniels lineup that got one for me.
- 48:31Speaker 3: And just to note it is I really think that's
- 48:34Speaker 3: the key too. This is a really good satellite line.
- 48:36Speaker 3: Like when people are saying like, oh, I don't know,
- 48:38Speaker 3: or like my mistake that I made and I'm owning it,
- 48:40Speaker 3: like Jordan says, that's the entire purpose of the show.
- 48:43Speaker 3: You know, what you learn from your mistakes. You'd be
- 48:45Speaker 3: able to move on and get better. But the take is,
- 48:47Speaker 3: is it like in a satellite when everyone's playing Cousins, London, McLeod,
- 48:53Speaker 3: who's the other guy, Mooney, et cetera, all those guys
- 48:56Speaker 3: you're flipping the bill to lower ownership in that you're
- 48:58Speaker 3: still getting some other guys, and you're usually playing against
- 49:01Speaker 3: one hundred people. If this is coming thirty fifth out
- 49:03Speaker 3: of thirty seven hundred in the fields, with two hundred
- 49:05Speaker 3: people or less in those satellites, fifty six up to
- 49:08Speaker 3: two hundred in these satellites, you can get away with
- 49:10Speaker 3: this team very easily, and that's how it wins you
- 49:12Speaker 3: two tickets because of that. So I just want to
- 49:15Speaker 3: note that scary creations brought up. This is true most
- 49:17Speaker 3: certainly they are guaranteed contracts, but just ask the raiders.
- 49:20Speaker 3: I think they owe like a lot of money to
- 49:22Speaker 3: Gruden and McDaniels and those guys. So the other thing
- 49:25Speaker 3: about is you can't win super Bowls with these coaches there.
- 49:27Speaker 3: So it's like, know how you make more money to
- 49:29Speaker 3: make up for the losses that you're having when you
- 49:31Speaker 3: do fire them, you win Super Bowls or get better,
- 49:33Speaker 3: and these teams aren't getting better. So that's sort of
- 49:35Speaker 3: the piece. Shout out to Philly Fantom. I did not
- 49:36Speaker 3: get to your lineup. I know you sort of posted
- 49:38Speaker 3: it there, but just with time and everything, I don't
- 49:40Speaker 3: think we're going to get to it today. Needs anything
- 49:42Speaker 3: else you wanted to talk about from yesterday or just
- 49:45Speaker 3: this review show. I think there was a ton of
- 49:46Speaker 3: good takeaways and just things that we're learning as week
- 49:48Speaker 3: goes on. But I got more final thoughts, but I'll
- 49:50Speaker 3: let you take your final thoughts first.
- 49:52Speaker 4: Yeah. No, overall, I think we talked through it right.
- 49:55Speaker 4: The bucket play, I think is the biggest talking point,
- 49:58Speaker 4: and learning is just what the nature of the slate
- 50:03Speaker 4: right in plays like that where right, we've had situations
- 50:06Speaker 4: right where backup running backs get thrust quote unquote backup
- 50:09Speaker 4: running backs get thrusted in the starting role. Right. Obviously
- 50:12Speaker 4: Bucky's been heavily involved in that, but there's also been
- 50:15Speaker 4: other good value running backs in those position spots like
- 50:18Speaker 4: we had what week two, Week three, stuff like that,
- 50:21Speaker 4: where there's two or three other running backs in a
- 50:23Speaker 4: similar salary range, right, that all cut into each other
- 50:28Speaker 4: or you can make a pivot there still makes sense.
- 50:30Speaker 4: So I think that was a huge talking point to
- 50:33Speaker 4: learn from there. And then again, I think the consensus
- 50:37Speaker 4: of all these shows is going in and keep it
- 50:41Speaker 4: simple stupid, right. I mean you go in on the
- 50:43Speaker 4: on the high total games, or you go in on
- 50:46Speaker 4: the good plays and have one or two differentiation pieces,
- 50:49Speaker 4: whether it's an overstack, whether it's an overstack from the game. Right,
- 50:52Speaker 4: you're grabbing five pieces or six pieces from a game
- 50:55Speaker 4: when when the common build is three or four, right,
- 50:59Speaker 4: So just adding that additional layer. I know you talked
- 51:01Speaker 4: about that on the Sunday Show yesterday. Right, most common
- 51:03Speaker 4: builds are cutting it off at Jade and Daniels, McLaurin,
- 51:06Speaker 4: Flowers or dak Ceedee, Lamb Ferguson or Drake London, Kirk
- 51:13Speaker 4: Cousins and whoever. Right, adding that that fourth and fifth
- 51:17Speaker 4: sixth piece sometimes makes a lot of sense for sure.
- 51:20Speaker 4: So overall I think it was a great show and
- 51:23Speaker 4: great learning learning over the course of six weeks so far.
- 51:27Speaker 4: Looking to keep it, keep it rolling for sure.
- 51:29Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just as smaller the field, the more you
- 51:32Speaker 3: can get away with it.
- 51:32Speaker 2: Like again, you're kind of you know what you're going
- 51:34Speaker 2: up against.
- 51:35Speaker 3: Like Kenny who he shored earlier knows that he's going
- 51:37Speaker 3: up against more chalk, so he's just looking for a
- 51:39Speaker 3: slight way to flip it. For example, I don't know
- 51:41Speaker 3: if I still have it up here, I'll quickly go
- 51:43Speaker 3: and look. But zach Ertz was sixteen, Kotten was thirty six,
- 51:48Speaker 3: Ferguson was almost forty percent owned in the Thunderdome, and
- 51:51Speaker 3: he played Tolbert at twenty percent owned. Because again some
- 51:55Speaker 3: people did that flip, but it's half the ownership and
- 51:57Speaker 3: just slips the bill. David Montgomery six percent, zach Ertz
- 52:01Speaker 3: sixteen as opposed to people playing Kate Awton and playing Ferguson.
- 52:04Speaker 3: So he just did a couple of small flips and
- 52:07Speaker 3: he can get away with that in that tournament. So
- 52:08Speaker 3: it's just something to note the higher that and I
- 52:11Speaker 3: showed you like my Andy Dalton lineup. I think it
- 52:13Speaker 3: was still a mistake and something I'm learning from in
- 52:15Speaker 3: the one fifty three Max, not just because of the result,
- 52:17Speaker 3: just things I literally settled out and part of my
- 52:19Speaker 3: own process, I went against it, and that's fine, and
- 52:22Speaker 3: there's ways to get better out and I'll show that
- 52:23Speaker 3: in the second with my final thoughts. But I will
- 52:25Speaker 3: say that's kind of the one takeaway there as you
- 52:27Speaker 3: can get away with it. Yeah, that's I saw you
- 52:31Speaker 3: just pulled it up. I was gonna get to some
- 52:32Speaker 3: of this stuff. But yeah, we've got it for Showdown
- 52:34Speaker 3: for NFL and the Main. We've got it for Showdown
- 52:36Speaker 3: for PGA and the main.
- 52:38Speaker 2: MLB.
- 52:38Speaker 3: We've got it just for the Main. We just started
- 52:40Speaker 3: Showdown coverage this year. Obviously, we always contribute, continue to
- 52:44Speaker 3: improve and add on MMA. We've got the Stone, CFB,
- 52:47Speaker 3: We've got the Stone. NASCAR, it's coming for NBA, and
- 52:50Speaker 3: the NHL Stone has been on fire and Na's I
- 52:52Speaker 3: know you do NHL maybe you can talk about that
- 52:54Speaker 3: for a quick second, but the NHL Stone has just
- 52:56Speaker 3: been helping people a ton some really big, big wins
- 52:58Speaker 3: already to start the season.
- 53:00Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean not only that too, DraftKings is improved.
- 53:03Speaker 4: They're overall NHL product. I mean, there's a lot of
- 53:06Speaker 4: good tournaments going on tonight, even with NFL going on
- 53:09Speaker 4: for all players in all stakes and basically the NHL Stone.
- 53:13Speaker 4: You need to know nothing about NHL to have success,
- 53:16Speaker 4: right if you know how to play mbdfs, you go
- 53:19Speaker 4: to NHL Stone, you read the slight plan you go
- 53:21Speaker 4: to the matchup sheet and you literally all the players
- 53:23Speaker 4: are there. It's got the line matching on it, it's
- 53:25Speaker 4: got their salaries, it's got their time on my ice,
- 53:28Speaker 4: it's got all the shot and goals everything. So literally,
- 53:30Speaker 4: I mean, you don't need to know one player in
- 53:32Speaker 4: the NHL because we have it all here for you.
- 53:34Speaker 4: So I mean, the stone alone is worth the price
- 53:37Speaker 4: of admission to our site. Not only that, all the
- 53:40Speaker 4: knowledge everything else in the discord. And we're already the
- 53:42Speaker 4: cheapest all in rate in the industry for anyone. And
- 53:45Speaker 4: you got a promo code NHL fifteen right now to
- 53:48Speaker 4: get fifteen percent off any membership plan. So I know
- 53:51Speaker 4: NBA right, a lot of NBA players out there. NBA
- 53:54Speaker 4: is right around the corner. We'll have a stone for that.
- 53:57Speaker 4: But not only that. I mean, like I said, NHL
- 53:59Speaker 4: has massive contests throughout the season with Hunter k fifty
- 54:02Speaker 4: k up top in a lot of tournaments too, So.
- 54:06Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.
- 54:07Speaker 3: Shout out to a guy mi Ig Dwayne, hit me
- 54:09Speaker 3: up man, text me you're supposed to come on this show.
- 54:11Speaker 2: We're only a week six lots of weeks left. My
- 54:13Speaker 2: friend hop on the show with us. We want to
- 54:15Speaker 2: get you on one of these.
- 54:16Speaker 3: You're obviously one of the best players out there, and
- 54:18Speaker 3: on top of it, I know you know how to
- 54:19Speaker 3: break this stuff down. You're always reviewing your own stuff,
- 54:22Speaker 3: You're always talking about it here in the chat, supporting.
- 54:24Speaker 2: We appreciate you.
- 54:24Speaker 3: But yeah, his comment was definitely good there, but it
- 54:27Speaker 3: just you know, I didn't get there for yesterday. I
- 54:29Speaker 3: thought that was interesting, and my final thoughts were this
- 54:31Speaker 3: like new and stopped about.
- 54:32Speaker 2: It's a couple of things.
- 54:33Speaker 3: Final thoughts six weeks in and I took this from
- 54:36Speaker 3: PGA DFS, but it's not about pgadfs, but NFL is.
- 54:39Speaker 3: We all get so excited because it only takes one
- 54:41Speaker 3: week in NFL, one night really to change your whole life.
- 54:44Speaker 3: Like you can win a million bucks on almost every
- 54:45Speaker 3: state tonight, another five hundred camp top. We've seen plenty
- 54:48Speaker 3: of six figure winners, including our own Marley Rio other
- 54:52Speaker 3: people within the chat, just on these showdown slates where
- 54:54Speaker 3: they're winning six figures just like that. So sometimes even
- 54:57Speaker 3: like Marley's night was, I think one hundred and sixty
- 54:59Speaker 3: two bucks into one hundred and twelve k or something.
- 55:01Speaker 3: So keep that in mind. You can change your life
- 55:03Speaker 3: in just one night. But one thing I will say
- 55:04Speaker 3: from PGADFS classic slate super tricky. We always crush showdown slates.
- 55:10Speaker 3: Obviously we got the tools over here, like we talked about,
- 55:12Speaker 3: but we have data, right, we get stats. We can
- 55:14Speaker 3: go into it with NFL. It's the same way we
- 55:16Speaker 3: brought out the DVP rankings. They're not for everybody, even
- 55:19Speaker 3: myself included. I just use them as a piece of
- 55:20Speaker 3: the puzzle. But the thing is, the more data we get,
- 55:22Speaker 3: and I thought back to myself, even the last couple
- 55:24Speaker 3: of seasons, my King of the Beach success was always
- 55:27Speaker 3: after week eight, my two hundred K wins three actually
- 55:31Speaker 3: to run out of the season, I had a sixty
- 55:32Speaker 3: to a forty, but three wins two over one hundred,
- 55:35Speaker 3: one equivalent to one hundred at the end of the season,
- 55:37Speaker 3: all late in the season, after week eight. It's almost
- 55:39Speaker 3: like the more information you pick up now we would
- 55:42Speaker 3: all like to win it sooner. We can all apply
- 55:44Speaker 3: a lot of what we're talking about here sooner. But
- 55:46Speaker 3: I would say that is part of it as well.
- 55:48Speaker 3: So just looking for little trends, starting to see things
- 55:51Speaker 3: and put them all together, that's really what it is.
- 55:53Speaker 2: All about.
- 55:54Speaker 3: If you guys want more education free, you can go
- 55:57Speaker 3: to the site ship at nation dot com. Just sign
- 55:59Speaker 3: up your email the lesson one. It's a five day
- 56:01Speaker 3: email education course strictly related to nfldfs. It's the mistakes
- 56:06Speaker 3: that most NFL DFS players make. It talks about all
- 56:09Speaker 3: of it, reflecting and repeating what we're doing here on
- 56:11Speaker 3: this show. Some of the silly stats and stuff that
- 56:13Speaker 3: people use that I make fun of that. Again, it's
- 56:16Speaker 3: not really that they're bad, it's just some NIMES people
- 56:18Speaker 3: go on very small sample sizes. I like longer sample sizes,
- 56:21Speaker 3: like Derrick Henry who came through again yesterday on all
- 56:24Speaker 3: of his sample sizes over five or six years. DFS
- 56:27Speaker 3: streets the community ways to end up with some terrible lineups,
- 56:30Speaker 3: and we talk about that where you can be way
- 56:32Speaker 3: under the projection. And then how to use a DFS optimizer.
- 56:35Speaker 3: And that's gonna be my final thought. Right here you go,
- 56:38Speaker 3: ship demizer NFL. Someone talked about it today, and I
- 56:41Speaker 3: think people always get confused about this, like, Hey, you know,
- 56:44Speaker 3: I'm trying to play just five lineups?
- 56:46Speaker 2: Do I need an optimizer? You don't?
- 56:48Speaker 3: You don't You're playing five lineups. You can strictly handbuild
- 56:50Speaker 3: them and do it and go ahead. But what I'll
- 56:52Speaker 3: say is some of the stuff that you can do
- 56:54Speaker 3: with an optimizer. Let's say you know exactly what you
- 56:56Speaker 3: want to do, and you build it all out here,
- 56:58Speaker 3: and you build twenty lineups and then pick you're five
- 57:00Speaker 3: from that. That's the key. Maybe I wouldn't have got that.
- 57:03Speaker 3: Maybe I X out LAMB in my non DAK builds.
- 57:06Speaker 3: I set up a group where it's gonna be DAK
- 57:08Speaker 3: and LAMB, and if I get LAMB in those groups,
- 57:09Speaker 3: I should have done that, but it was it was
- 57:11Speaker 3: one of my smaller main entries, so I just went
- 57:13Speaker 3: with my own knowledge, my own experience, and I ended
- 57:16Speaker 3: up costing myself. So just to note that I went
- 57:18Speaker 3: against one of my own rules because I didn't follow this,
- 57:21Speaker 3: But it is we talk about all the time. Shifpteizer
- 57:23Speaker 3: is the optimizer designed to help you ship. If you
- 57:25Speaker 3: want to make sure you've got three to five plays
- 57:29Speaker 3: underneath ten percent owned in all of your lineups, you
- 57:31Speaker 3: can set up rules right in the bracketed ownership to
- 57:34Speaker 3: be able to set yourself up for success and at
- 57:36Speaker 3: least look at lineups and compare against those in your building.
- 57:40Speaker 3: So all the tools are there. It's easy to join.
- 57:42Speaker 3: Randy astabout that fift team ercent. We just use the
- 57:44Speaker 3: code NHL fifteen. It's any membership if you do all access.
- 57:48Speaker 3: Right now, we're already the lowest in the industry ninety
- 57:50Speaker 3: nine bucks including shifteviser for all the sports. Shifte Mizer
- 57:55Speaker 3: just does not come with CFB and NHL right now,
- 57:58Speaker 3: but when it does come out for those, you are
- 58:00Speaker 3: going to be able to get it for those sports
- 58:02Speaker 3: as well. Included no extra charge. The eighty five dollars
- 58:05Speaker 3: does lock in. And then if you want the football
- 58:07Speaker 3: only at sixty four dollars with NFL ship devisor you
- 58:10Speaker 3: still get college football the stone all of that fifteen
- 58:13Speaker 3: percent off and it locks in as well. So shout
- 58:15Speaker 3: out to Randy joining the nation. We appreciate you. That's
- 58:18Speaker 3: going to do it for this one guys, thank you
- 58:19Speaker 3: so much for joining us for naids for myself to
- 58:22Speaker 3: tag and tambo let ship it