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Calls For Howard Lutnick To Resign Grow Louder After His Congressional Testimony (5/17/26) · The Epstein Chronicles

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Epstein Chronicles. Listen. There are a few things in life
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  that are a sure thing death taxes and Trump administration
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  officials lying about their relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. And last
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  week we heard from Howard Lutnik about his so called
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  relationship with Jeffrey Epstein and how every single meeting between
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  the two of them was inconsequential and now it had
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  no meaning whatsoever. But he doesn't recall what they talked about,
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  but he knows for a fact that it was inconsequential
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  and meaningless. And you know what, if you would have
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  just been honest from the very beginning about your relationship
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  with the dude, my guess is things would have went
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  a lot easier for you. But instead you had to lie.
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  You had to make pretend that you had no relationship
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  with a guy whatsoever, when everybody in the world knows different.
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  And you know what else is wild that this dude
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  didn't even go under oath before he gave his statement
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  to Congress. I mean not that I blame. Would you
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  want to be under oath if you were telling falsehoods
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  about your relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. Probably not, But I
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  have a hard time believing that Howard Lutnik was being truthful.
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  I mean, look at the way he reacted about the mask.
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  What do you mean, I don't have a goateee, I
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  have a couple of pieces of hair that can't be me.
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  I mean that was literally his excuse. And look, I'm
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  not saying that the mask is Howard Lutnick, but I'm
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  saying that it's a question that's valid considering everything we
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  know about Jeffrey Epstein, about Jeffrey Epstein's friends, and about
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  how Howard Lutnik has lied. So today we have an
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  article from CNBC and the headline DEM's demand Lutnick resigned
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  over Epstein interview. You lied. This article was authored by
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  Kevin Bruneger. House Democrats on Thursday demanded Commerce Secretary Howard
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  Utnik's resignation, alleging he publicly lied about his relationship with
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  notorious sex offender Jeffrey Epstein and refuse to come clean
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  during a subsequent closed door interview. Well, I think that
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  that's true. I think that Howard Lutnik has done nothing
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  but sell us a bunch of bs. And of course
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  the question becomes why, what are you hiding? What are
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  you so worried about being exposed? I would think at
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  this point that people would understand that come and clean
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  and being honest is the right way to go about this,
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  because the more you double down, the more you lie,
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  the more people are going to think you have something
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  to hide. The facts are clear. You lie to the
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  American people and attempted to conceal your relationship with Jeffrey
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  Epstein in your public statements. The House Committee on Oversight
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  and Government Reform, Democratic minority said in a letter to Lutnik,
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  your lack of candor demonstrates that you're unfit to perform
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  the duties required of you as Secretary of Commerce, and
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  you must step down immediately. Read the letter, signed by
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  all twenty one of the panel's Democratic members, and listen.
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  There sure is a lot of politics at play. Anyone
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  denying that is lying, but that doesn't mean the Democrats
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  are wrong here to demand this. Howard Lutnick's a liar,
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  and I don't believe a word he says. Lundnik claimed
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  in the interview last year following a visit to Epstein's
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  Manhattan mansion shortly after he moved next door to him
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  in two thousand and five, he decided that I'll never
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  be in the room with that disgusting person ever again
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  until he was so, I was never in the room
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  with him socially, for business or even philanthropy, Lutnick said
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  in that interview. If that guy was there, I wasn't
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  going because he's gross. That all turned out to be
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  a lie. So why were you lying, Howie Lutnick? What
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  were you hoping to gain from your lies? Oh? That's right,
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  some distance, and make no mistake. There is a reason
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  that Marjorie Taylor Green is no longer in politics. There's
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  a reason that more money has been raised against Thomas
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  Massey than anybody ever. And there's also a reason that
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  Donald Trump just turned on Lauren Bobert. I'll let you
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  figure out what that reason is. And anybody that still
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  supports Donald Trump, I don't even know what to say
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  at this point. Honestly, this goes so much further than
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  owning the Libs or whatever it is you're thinking you're doing.
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  This is just beyond the pill. And no president, no politician,
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  should ever demand complete an utter loyalty from anyone. But
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  that's what Donald Trump does, and all these people out
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  here there are more than willing to go along with it,
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  and these people think they're the patriots. That's the craziest
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  part of all of it. Breaking news. If you think
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  Gulayne Maxwell should be pardoned and you think Jeffrey Epstein's
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  a hoax, you are not a patriot. But after the
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  Department of Justice release of the EPSO related files showed
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  continued ties between the two men years later, Lutnik admitted
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  in a Senate hearing that he and his family had
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  lunch on the Disgrace Financiers private island in twenty twelve.
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  It was just an hour. It was inconsequential. Who goes
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  to a private island and has lunch for an hour,
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  brings his nannies, brings some friends, brings his wife, brings
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  his kids. But I had no idea what Jeffrey Epstein was.
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  And that's a whole less other conversation. Right, You mean
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  to tell me the city of New York didn't let
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  people know that there was a registered sex offender living
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  next to them, and didn't Jeffrey Epstein live next to
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  a school, Like, what's even going on in New York?
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  That's another question that needs to be asked because remember,
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  the prosecutors in New York argue that Jeffrey Epstein should
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  be labeled a lower level sex offender. So this is
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  something that's been happening in New York for quite some time.
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  And that's why I just don't believe what Lutnik has
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  to say about Jeffrey Epstein and not knowing what Epstein was.
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  Everybody knew, at the very least, everybody knew that he
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  went to prison or jail back in two thousand and eight.
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  Everybody knew that. But Lutni's gonna get up here and
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  act like nobody knew, like it was some big state secret.
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  I'm sorry, but that just proves he's lying. Epstein pleaded
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  guilty in two thousand and eight to state level charge
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  of solicitation of a minor for a prostitution, which required
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  him to register as a sex offender. He died in
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  New York City jail in twenty nineteen while facing federal
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  sex trafficking charges. His death was ruled a suicide. I
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  like how the author here says it was ruled the suicide,
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  because that's what it was ruled the suicide. We don't
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  know definitively one way or the other. Democrats wrote in
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  Thursday's letter that lutnex claim in the twenty twenty five
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  interview was demonstrably false. During your transcribed interview, you are
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  presented with clear evidence that you corresponded and physically met
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  with Epstein on multiple occasions prior to his arrest in
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  twenty nineteen, including the private island lunch. They wrote, and look,
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  why would you lie even about the most basic thing?
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  And that's what really gets me with all these people, like,
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  stop lying about everything, if you just be honest about it,
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  come forward and be like, hey, I knew the dude.
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  I had no idea that he was up to what
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  he was up to. But even though I don't think
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  I know anything, I'd love to talk to the FBI
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  or whoever's investigating and tell them what I know. I
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  might have seen something. None of these people have done that. Instead,
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  they've all wished it to go away. But obviously that's
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  not going to happen, no matter how many stupid little
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  shiny objects they dangle in front of us. It's not
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  going away. Now. We might talk about other things, we might,
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  you know, look at other stories or whatever, but this
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  is always going to be burning right in the background.
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  And until there's justice, until there's real transparency and or
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  real investigation, nobody's moving on, at least nobody that understands
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  the score and understands the true scope of what's happening here.
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  Given the opportunity to come clean during the interview, you
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  instead offered implausible distinctions and semantic games, the lawmakers wrote.
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  A Commerce Department spokesperson, in a statement to see NBC
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  called the letter another failing attempt by Congressional Democrats to
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  distract from Secretary Lutnik's historic work at the Commerce Department.
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  What does that even mean? What historic work? The tariffs
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  being you know, rolled back, and we have to pay
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  taxes on those two. Where is all this historic work
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  I keep hearing about? In a voluntary appearance before the
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  House Oversight Committee, Secretary Lutnik answered nearly four hundred questions
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  from members and staff, ending only when members said they
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  had nothing more to ask. The spokesperson said, well, that's cool,
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  and it's true, but his problem is that he lied.
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  That's the big issue here, and of course that all
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  falls right into the cover up. He explained repeatedly that
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  three encounters did not constitute a relationship, and the committee
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  adjourned without identifying any evidence to the contrary. Calls for
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  his resignation are baseless and politically motivated. Yo, straight up,
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  fuck your politics. Okay, I don't care. He should resign
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  because that's the moral right thing to do. That's why
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  he should resign. The White House said in February that
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  President Trump, who was also faced scrutiney over his past
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  friendship with Epstein, continues to stand behind Ludnik. Oh, I'm
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  sure he does. Birds of a feather and all right.
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  Lutnik testified before the House Oversight Committee behind closed doors
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  on May sixth. He told the committee that he was
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  participating voluntarily, though he had agreed to appear after Representative
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  Nancy Mace said she would issue a bipartisan subpoena to
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  compel his testimony. Now Mace is the last woman standing,
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  and you know Trump's going to go after her too.
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  Every single person that helped get this Transparency Act passed
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  has been attacked by Donald Trump. And it's not a coincidence, folks.
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  A transcription of the interview shows Lutnik saying he could
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  recall meeting with Epstein three times, including two thousand and
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  five and twenty twelve interactions. In twenty eleven, Lutnick set
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  Epstein's staff reached out, suggesting he had a reason to
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  get in touch with me. It was arranged that Lutnick,
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  while walking his wife and his dog on a Sunday afternoon,
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  would ring Epstein's doorbell to hear what he had to say.
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  The secretary said, why, I thought he was disgusting. I
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  thought he was reprehensible, and you'd never be in a
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  room with him again until you were. My best recollection
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  is I rang the bell, sat in the foyer with
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  my dog, waited for him to come down, heard what
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  he had to say, and left. As far as I recall,
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  it was about scaffolding. It was meaningless and inconsequential, he
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  told the committee. Under questioning, Lutnik denied that he had
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  been misleading about his relationship with Epstein, insisting that he
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  used the word I versus we was a crucial distinction.
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  I mean, wow, talk about word salad and thinking we're stupid,
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  because it was all of that, I was accurate. I
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  think I described it accurately. I don't want it to
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  be modified in any way I was. I would not
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  be in the room with them socially which I was not,
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  for business, which I was not, or philanthropic, which I
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  was not. So I believe that what I said was accurate.
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  I believe what I said was accurate when I said it,
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  and I believe it now. So I didn't say we
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  would never. I said I would never, he said. A
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  questioner replied, we all understand that you were in the
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  room with them in a social setting, but you have
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  insisted that this sentence is accurate. So I just that
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  does not make sense on its face. Lutnik later said,
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  I was never with them, meaning I was never in
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  a situation with them. I was with my wife, and
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  they were meaningless and inconsequential. Give me a break with
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  that shit. Tell me that wasn't rehearsed with a lawyer,
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  but contextually so people would understand I was never with
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  them in any other manner, I, Howard Lutnik, one person
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  was never in a situation, so you couldn't take it
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  out of context. I was never with them, the Democrats
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  wrote Thursday, no reasonable person would accept this account. A
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  cabinet secretary, most basic obligation to Congress is candor. Your
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  statements have a bearing on the lives of all Americans.
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  You used your congressional interview not for the not to
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  correct the record, but to perpetuate a false public narrative,
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  they wrote, and of course that should be punished. If
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  it can be proven, that should be punished. You contradicted
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  prior statements and stonewalled on basic questions. A secretary who
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  will parse the meaning of plain English to avoid acknowledging
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  his own words, claim no recollection of a documented visit
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  to a convicted sex offenders private eye land, and refused
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  to answer basic questions about his conversation with the president.
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  Cannot be trusted to serve as a leader in the
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  federal government. We therefore call on you to resign immediately
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  as Secretary of Commerce, they wrote, are they wrong? Well,
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  like usual, I'll leave it up to you. All the
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  information that goes with this episode can be found in
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