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Weekend Recap with US Open, Devers trade, Matt Rudy recaps the US Open & a confusing Connor McCaffery tweet · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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All right, good afternoon. Welcome to Miller and Condon on
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a Monday, the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
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For the next couple of hours, Trent Condon and Ken Miller will
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talk sports with you and we appreciate your starting your
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afternoon here with us. Here's what's coming up on our
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program. We will start at the bottom of
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the hour. Only guest in the first hour of
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the program is Matt Rudy, long time golf writer.
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He will help us take a look back at just AI thought a phenomenal
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4 days of golf. I really did on Thursday.
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I would have bet a lot of money JJ Spawn's not going to be
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there. But wow, what a tournament.
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We'll get into that. And listen, I get into studio
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and there's the Coward Show's playing in my ear.
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And he starts his show by saying there's no juice in the US Open.
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Were we watching the same event? I mean, my God, I thought it was
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phenomenal theatre and there were no big names, but just
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completely glued. Anyways, enough about him.
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We'll talk to Matt Rudy at 12:30.
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Matt Snyder continues the mat theme today.
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We'll talk to Matt Snyder, CBSSports.com.
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He covers Major League Baseball. What a trade.
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The seemingly came out of nowhere yesterday.
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Rafael Devers, who you could see it coming, you know, going back
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to spring training when he didn't want to be the DH.
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He's third baseman despite the fact the American League's goal.
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Glovers now a member of your team.
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He was digging in his heels. Now he'll do so in San
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Francisco. So we'll talk baseball with Matt
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Snyder and then Alec Bussey on Iowa State.
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The latest on Iowa State, do some recruiting.
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I'm not sure it was a positive tweet I just saw on X from Evan
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Jacobson and how well the Notre Dame visit went to Yikes.
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So buckle up. We'll see.
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Obviously, he's a good player. Good players are going to have
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options. We'll see where Iowa State
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remains as far as bussy. Other topics as well with Alec
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when he joins us coming up about 130.
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Trent will make some plays. Circus Sports will sponsor those
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who've got a Game 5 tonight in the NBA series knotted up at 2
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apiece. Big number Thunder favored by 9
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1/2. Seems like a lot of points, but
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we'll hear from Trent on what he's going to do later on the
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program. But we'll hear from him right
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now on other things. Good to see you.
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How was Father's? Day it was good, busy a lot
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going on but made it through the weekend.
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Legs are a little sore head. Oh, you brought?
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A bike that's. Right, had the bike ride I only
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made about half the way compared to the rest of the guys I would.
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Have taken the under. Yeah, yeah, 15 miles.
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That's good for the fat man. So we we persevered, we battled
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and we got work to do before next year's tour.
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Deloitte. So that was Saturday.
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That was Saturday. Remind me of the weather was
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sunny. It was hot, wasn't it?
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It was warm, yeah, it was sticky.
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That lost a few LB's on the bike but made it.
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Through we gained it back on Father's Day.
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Absolutely, had some steak yesterday, had a good time and
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for the first time got the dessert of my choice as opposed
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to my father in law's who usually gets and.
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What did you choose? It was like a chocolate cake.
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It's called better than sex cake.
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Oh, it's incredible. Sounds good.
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Very, very good. So I was happy with that one.
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And away we go, back-to-back to normalcy.
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Now back to real life. Yeah, for the next 364,
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absolutely. Well, let's let's start.
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We got a lot of ground to cover. Obviously baseball news.
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We got it. I got it.
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We got to bring up the WNBA from Saturday.
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Just remarkable theater truly was a television ratings are not
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out. I hope you didn't fall.
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Some of you fall for the erroneous number that was posted
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on X. That's a fake tweet that we're
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not 20 million people tuned in to watch the game as it as a
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tweet from what looked like the Indiana Fever account would want
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to lead you to believe. But I'm guessing that a lot of
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people did despite the fact it was round three, the US Open.
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But the golf tournament yesterday, Trent, I thought it
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was remarkable theater. I truly did.
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I mean, coming down the stretch, what do we have?
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Four or five guys tied for the lead.
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All of them, none of them rather under par, All of them even or
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worse guys that within, you know, a shot or two.
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Scotty Scheffler's hanging around.
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I logged on to my Twitter account 'cause I wanted to bet
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somebody in the final round of the tournament yesterday and I'm
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going through the odds and I'm price shopping.
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As you know, Scotty Scheffler was 60 to 1 and I couldn't pull
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the trigger and in hindsight, I'm glad I didn't.
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I bet Hatton, so I got to run for my money.
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But 60 to 1 and there he was, you know, making it interesting
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at the very least. But hats off the Spawn, a dude
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who bogeyed five of his first six holes is able to win a
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major. It was great theater and the
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putt that he made will be one of those all.
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Timers, absolutely, it'll be remembered for a long time.
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A 64 footer, what do you need to in that environment on those
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screens, how different they were playing compared to what you
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dealt with basically all week long with all the water in
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there, you just don't know. And just to absolutely nut that
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thing. How?
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Far past the hole was it going if he.
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That is a great question. I wish I would have saw like an
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analytic thing. Yeah, on that if it.
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'Cause it looked like it had some giddy up behind it, didn't
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it? Absolutely.
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And all of a sudden, Bobby Mack, Robert McIntyre, What?
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Have you had it 99 to? 1 I did that would have if it
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would have got to that point, yeah, it would have been hedging
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a little bit more. Makes it 9:00 to 1:00.
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Bobby backs the guy that play a lot.
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He's had some success when Scottish Open and then went out
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and played really well the British.
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Didn't he? Wasn't this the cat who won the
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Canadian Open with his dad on his bag?
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I think you're right. Yeah, like 3 years ago.
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Two years ago. And I remember we're thinking
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just because it's a father son moment, you know just how
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special that must have been. I'm pretty sure it was John
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Rom's in the hunt. Victor Hovland couldn't make a
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putt yesterday to save his life. We got introduced to Carlos
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Ortiz. We've been around periodically,
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but never to this point. But I'll tell you one of the big
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stories that comes out of the yesterday.
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And and yes, JJ spawned remarkable the USGA rules
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officials. They misinterpreted the rule by
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all accounts on Sam Burns. That's a that's that's that's a
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go ahead and move it club length.
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That's relief. You can get relief all day long.
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And did you see the video the ex Kyle Porter is it was with one
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of the big. Golf.
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He used to be CBS from CBS. Right and then got laid off and
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opened up his own thing. He went back after the
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tournament was over and found the spot that he hit from and
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and obviously didn't have a club, but he just put his foot
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down where burns. His feet would have come to rest
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when or when he was setting up to hit his ball.
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And as soon as his foot touches where it does, I mean, water
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comes squishing out of the ground, though you don't have to
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be able to see the water to gain relief.
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And that's right in the rules. And not one, but two USGA
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officials ruled against him. And you knew it was coming.
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You knew it was coming because that's in his head that he just
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got screwed. And sure enough, the the shot
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was it was bad. It was nowhere near he made, I
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think did he make double or bogey?
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I might have made double on that hole, but just it was 15.
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He made double. He made, he made 6.
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Just really unfortunate because he was having an unbelievable
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tournament up to that point, but it got between his ears.
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During the delay when they were playing the 2008 USA Rocco
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versus Tiger, did you stay with it?
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In and out, yeah. I took Jed out and then I came
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back and it was still on man it. Was just fun watching.
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Yeah, it was, it really was. It is in his at his peak, right.
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It was, it was good, but. Doesn't feel like that was 17
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years ago. I know you never thought of it
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like that, but yeah. 17 years ago.
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Jesus, time flies. That was a long time.
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I. Was doing a little math and just
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sit there like, oh boy, that was, yeah, that was a while.
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Back. Well, hats off to them for
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having that ready to go, right? Yeah.
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I mean, I know that they can look at the weather forecast and
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they can see what potentially is coming, but I thought it was.
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I thought it was and there was no.
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I mean, give me the big name. And towards the top, it's worth
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the top. We really didn't need one, did
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we? No, I mean, Hovlin would be, I
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guess the probably, but he's not an American, no.
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So still incredibly young, you know, And this year has not been
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outstanding. Bobby Mack.
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Tyrell Hatton. Hatton's just known 'cause he's
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a loose camp. Yeah.
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And that was the reason he was crossed off my list.
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I didn't have anywhere because I'm like this course with his
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personality and his temperament. Well then it got to him what it
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was on 17 on that on that. I mean spawns drive on 17 was
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maybe one in the golf tournament.
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Had a shot to had a putt to make eagle made birdie goes to 18
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with a one stroke lead, puts his drive right down where it needed
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to be a second shot. Yeah, was on the green, but you
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know, maybe a little further than he wanted 2 putts to win
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it, but he only needed one. Adam Scott, it was one of the
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saddest things is they're showing spawn.
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He's in there, takes that deep breath as he's going through his
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scorecard, and then they cut back.
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Oh yeah, Adam Scott's still out there on the course, so they
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just have a shot of him hitting into ET.
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They're like, you gotta feel bad.
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I mean, it's terrible weather. Everybody's done, everybody's
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finished up and you, no, you got finish around and still got a
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top 20. Out of it.
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But, well, how about that mean The final pairing in the US Open
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shot 78 and 79, burned 78, and Adam Scott was 79.
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Scotty Sheffer never felt like, yeah, he's kind of flirting
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with. It'll mean time for seven.
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Right. Yeah, time for. 7th just goes to
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show you just how good this cat is, right?
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Even when it's seemingly to us he's not having his best
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tournament, there he is. Top ten finish for Scotty
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Scheffler. And you kind of, you mentioned
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Jon ROM, that was a guy that I had circled this week.
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That was one of my bigger ones. It just what could have been for
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him. You look at a couple of late,
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late round scenarios in Rounds 2 and 3 proved to be the
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difference. He was right there.
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His game is ready, Yep, And I think he's a guy you definitely
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need to when we get to the British.
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He's a guy definitely needs to be in there because seems like
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he's figured it out again. He's back on the right track.
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He's too talented to struggle like he has.
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And yeah, the live is obviously a part of that, but feels like
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that's a guy that's going to be in contention now going.
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Forward. No, absolutely.
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So that was, I thought, terrific theater.
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I did. Anxious to see how the
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television numbers come out on that one because again, there's
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no big name per SE, but I have to believe that it was going to
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be very well received. And with the delay, it pushes it
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into prime time and you'd anticipate that would help or.
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And a lot of people just checked out at that point.
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It's a leader blinder, right? Yeah.
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Leader board I don't care about. I don't know hardly how.
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Long was the delay. Was it an hour and 40 minutes?
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I think it was about an hour, hour 35.
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People got, you know, maybe dinner plans that night, things
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like that. So yeah, you get the prime time
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element of it. However, how many people had
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already said, well, I've seen enough today and went that
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direction, but that'll be interesting and intriguing.
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But we're watching. No phenomenal loved it, loved
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every minute of it, happy the JJ spawn just sink of that putt the
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way that he did. This was the leader on Monday
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made although you mean he putted his you know what off on not a
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Monday on round one on Thursday. Didn't think he'd be there in
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the end, but there he was 4.3 million and and the, the, the
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history of this guy, the, you know, the stick to itiveness
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that he had to do and a lot of guys are this way.
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Yeah, just a fight to earn your card.
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I mean, this first year on tour and it was not on this tours.
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On the Canadian tour he made 11,000 yes, $1,011,000 in his
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first year, lost his card, got a break because of the COVID year.
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They didn't take the card away from him and he was able to hang
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around, but wow. He.
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Not rufric dude like that? Absolutely.
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And he's wearing the red, white and blue.
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Or will be during the Ryder Cup. 3:00 AM.
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Goes to CVS. Great.
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Glad you brought. It up pick up some medicine for
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his kid. I was out there on Father's Day,
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does that, his wife saying to his older of the two, Daddy
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won't. Yeah, that was great.
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It really was that was. Great.
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And to do it I I. Because apparently after Daddy
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finishes the the daughter looks at Mommy all the time.
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Did daddy win? So she was able to say Daddy won
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before she. So yeah, that was pretty,
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especially on Father's Day, right?
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They I don't know if you saw the cut to the clubhouse and the
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kids came in and they were giving him a hug and one of the
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two was hugging his caddy. No, you got to figure it, you
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know, and it's life changing for him too.
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They they, what does he get a medal?
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The caddy, is that what they gave?
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I don't know. I didn't stick around.
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I was there, I was watching it and I didn't know if it was AI
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think it was a medal. Daddy got it.
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But regardless, he thinks he's 5.
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Percent. I mean, you're on a beg for JJ
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spot, right? What are you making?
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Peanuts, you know? Not even expenses, probably.
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I was going through and I was explaining it to my
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father-in-law and my sister-in-law who are not golf
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fans. Like he made $4.5 million for
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this and during his career, I think his career earnings were
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like $14 million. That sounds great, right, $14
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million over a decade. And you're paying, you're an
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independent contractor, you're paying for your hotels, you're
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paying for your transportation, you're paying for your caddy,
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you're paying for your agent. You're paying all these fees on
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top of it. That money goes pretty quickly.
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Hell yeah, I mean. And then look at the golf.
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Course, did you see his euphoria with me because he got paid?
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Hey, before I forget to ask you this, there was a caddy from
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Indianola. Do you remember this?
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I don't know. Neither do I don't know how much
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you did. No, there's a guy that.
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Was not a bag for a long time, yes.
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And a Brad Bunting, if you're listening.
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He'll help us out. He.
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There there was a local caddy because I remember we had him on
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after his guy won an event and for the life of me because he
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because he told me how much he made.
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Can you find it? Let's see a couple of names.
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The PGA Professional down there, his name is Jason Marvelli.
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No, it wasn't him. This guy was a caddy.
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OK, I've been 60s and 70s raised in Indio Steve spray.
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Name's not familiar. I mean, the only one that jumps
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to mind for me is Michael Greller.
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Yeah, sure, but he's a Northwest.
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Iowa guy. No, this, this was a this I
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think he was from Indian, OK. And I don't know if we were
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doing the show from Indian all at the time, which would have
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been back around the turn of the century.
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I don't, I think it was after that.
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But there was a local guy I'd love to know because because I
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remember he he, he kind of, you know, peeled back the curtain
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when it comes to how much these guys make, how much they, you
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know, if your golfer wins, what does that mean for you type of
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thing? And I can't for the life of me
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pull it out of my you know what? But someone will help me when
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maybe Troy is here. Troy, how are you?
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Thanks for listening to Troy. Do you know who I'm talking
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about or did you call for a different reason?
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Yeah, Casey Kellogg was the professional caddy from Casey
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Kellogg Simpson College. Yeah.
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I'm getting a bunch of texts right now.
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Thank you, Tom Mullenbrook. Thank you, baseball Benny.
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So do you. So he was from Indianola?
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Right. Yes, Indianola.
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And he played baseball and football in high school and he
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was, he played baseball exception with Brad Rose and
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that really good team, those really good teams, Brent Clark.
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OK, Yeah, yeah, he's more famous for his daughter.
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He. Got a text from Tom Mullenbrook.
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He was a student assistant at Simpson, Cal.
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Do you know Tom Mullenbrook? I certainly do.
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Tom's a good friend my. RA his his his roommate was AI
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don't know how many times decathlon winner Drake kept
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their jandrin. How about that?
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He won a bunch of him. I remember that.
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Hey Troy, thanks. Who and who did he caddy?
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Who did Kellogg caddy for when he when he had that windfall or
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seemingly when his guy won? Do you remember that part?
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Ryuji Amato was the one and Casey was a great guy and
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unfortunately he passed away so God bless Casey Kellogg and his
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family. Thank you for the Intel, Troy.
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I appreciate the call. Yeah, good stuff, Casey Kellogg.
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Passed away 2 summers. Ago is that right?
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Yeah, 15 and and Ruigi Amata. I remember the name.
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What did he win then we would have gone that Casey Kellogg
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would have got 15 minutes of fame.
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I don't know for being a caddy, but but good stuff anyways.
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I don't recall what they actually meant.
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It's 5% sticks in my brain, but phenomenal, phenomenal theater.
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All right, so was Saturday afternoon, 2:00 on ABC, man, I
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mean, what more can you say? You run out of superlative.
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You truly do. There's only so many.
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Ways she's one of one. To come back in that environment
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against that team and to put together that kind of
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performance, what was it? The 17 up and run, culminating
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with another deep 3. The way she looks, the way she
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carries herself. Brianna Stewart and her going
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back up the court after Caitlin just buried one over Stewart.
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I mean, Stewart just best player right now, considered the best
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player to ever play in the league.
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And looking at the air parent, you know, it's just there is
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one's back pedaling. Jaden Court.
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AJ Wilson probably in the hunt. Yeah, yeah.
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In the conversation. But it was, it was just
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phenomenal. It really was watching that and
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the building itself and just what she means for the game,
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because we saw the television number, not just the Fever
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numbers, the leak numbers they had.
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Down 50%, right, 50%. Look, I'm guilty.
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Did you watch any? I didn't.
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We watched that first game just to see how they.
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Looked. They looked different, right?
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Right. But I didn't watch the whole
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thing. No, but we weren't turning on
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the the aces and whoever the Phoenix we were, we were just
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checked out like most like half of the country that follows it.
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But my, my good God, just jaw-dropping is what it was.
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And you know what I really liked about it afterwards or it was
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either yesterday in a press conference or following the
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game, Stephanie White criticizing her a little bit,
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coaching her. You know, I'm going to introduce
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you to she passed up one of her teammates to try and make an
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improbable pass that was a turnover.
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But you know, just coaching Caitlin up and yeah, she's
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really good, but she needs to get better type of thing.
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And she's getting better on TV. Have you noticed her
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commercials? Oh yeah, they're getting better.
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She's 'cause she's got a little actress in her now.
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Those first statements, they were rough.
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They were rough. Yes, put it mildly.
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But now that logo when she's sorting the socks or whatever
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the you've seen that commercial. Wow, you've seen that.
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Commercial yeah, that was you got me on that one is what are
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we going to get her shoe. Oh, it's already was announced.
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It wasn't. It's coming Christmas.
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Christmas. Yeah, OK.
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It was either gonna be back to school, yes, or Christmas.
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And we, I mean, everybody was all over that.
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That's when they're gonna wait, but they're gonna wait till
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Christmas. Her something is coming out in
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November and the shoe very quickly after that, but in time
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for Christmas. It's like we said before, it's
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going to be this year's Cabbage Patch Kid.
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I know it's good luck finding them, no?
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It's going to be under the tree at the Condon house.
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I'm sure we can find it. Yeah, I'm sure it is probably 2
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pairs. Yes, because Jack loves Caitlin
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Clark. Too.
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Who doesn't? Yes, little kids love Caitlin
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Clark. Great, great theater.
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Really was. So the Raphael Devers trade just
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real quick on baseball. I'm not surprised that this
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happened. I kind of surprised by the
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timing now. I mean, Boston was starting to
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play well. Yeah, well, it goes back to
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something we talked about coming on the heels of a last week,
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another Sunday night baseball game with the Red Sox and
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Yankees. But you had the intrigue that
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led into it with the starting pitcher that was called out.
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The Yankees and and Red Sox played well there.
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They'd been a disappointment. I didn't think they were going
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to be a 95 win team. No, but I thought they were
19:04
going to be an 85 win team. They're going to be in wild card
19:07
contention and they weren't playing at that level.
19:08
I thought that they were trending toward the second best
19:11
team in the American League East, which probably is going to
19:13
get you into the playoffs. It was, I mean, what, a 5-6 week
19:17
stretch where they were just playing bad baseball and you
19:20
have to anticipate that the Devers headache had to be a part
19:22
of it. I mean we get a malcontent like
19:24
that day in and day out. It won't take the owners calls
19:27
he's. Right.
19:28
You have that component and here comes this new staff, this new
19:31
GM, new front office, they ask you to move to DH.
19:33
No, not going to do it. But hang on a second you we just
19:37
signed the Gold Glove third baseman and he's better than
19:40
you. Didn't care, you know, take one
19:42
for the team. This doesn't diminish your.
19:43
Paycheck. You know what?
19:45
There's all of a sudden there's not going to be a zero
19:47
disappear. And temper's still hitting.
19:49
Yeah, he's doing well. I mean, it's OPS is over 900.
19:53
He's going to be excellent. And it's great for the Giants.
19:55
I mean, they tried to spend for the last two off seasons and
19:58
they just haven't got many people certainly high level
20:00
freeze instead of wanting to sign.
20:02
So you get your kind of top ticket type of guy.
20:05
You get rid of the headache if you're the Red Sox and.
20:08
How about the staff? A little bit, Yeah, It's a hole
20:11
in your lineup now. You don't lose an offensive
20:13
player like that and not be impactful.
20:16
I think they're threats. I mean, if you're a Red Sox fan,
20:18
your team kind of waves the towel seemingly at this point.
20:22
Real quick, Ohtani pitches tonight.
20:24
What do you what do you expect? Is there a prop as far as
20:27
strikeouts for him? Because how many is he on a
20:29
pitch count? Have you seen that?
20:30
I have not. So I just saw speculation that
20:33
they were anticipating maybe 2-3 innings at the most.
20:35
This was supposed to be a bullpen game and now it's
20:38
Ohtani. But if he goes out there, 30
20:42
pitches, Max 40, I mean something in that range.
20:45
Don't anticipate anything more than that, but that's what it's
20:47
going to be. But it's June 16th.
20:50
I did not think we were going to see him pitching in the middle.
20:52
No, I didn't either. I thought this was going to be
20:54
like middle of July, late July type of thing, kind of gear him
20:58
up there. He's going to be able to.
21:00
He'll be fully back here by the time the trade deadline comes
21:03
and you're going to see sometimes guys coming off Tommy
21:06
John and for him a second Tommy John.
21:08
It takes a long time, but they're going to.
21:10
Err on the side of caution. Absolutely.
21:12
But well, in front of the trade deadline, is this a guy that
21:15
we're going to be able to count off from playoff time or do we
21:18
make him a bullpen arm? Is that something that makes
21:20
sense there? We augment our bullpen and now
21:22
we had no out. We have to go out and we have to
21:24
get maybe 2. Starting well, Glass now is
21:26
making his way back. I saw him on the field playing
21:28
long toss yesterday. So they're going to get him
21:30
back. Mets, despite getting swept over
21:33
the weekend, still have the best record in the National League,
21:35
then the Cubs, then the Dodgers. But if you're a Cubs fan today
21:38
and you just saw what happened yesterday, the middle of June,
21:41
are you thinking to Hoyer and company?
21:43
You know you don't have to wait until the end of July, right?
21:47
Let's get busy. All right, before we go to break
21:50
your thoughts on game #5 tonight.
21:53
I can't believe that A the Pacers gave it away.
21:56
Yes, and be the Thunder covered. Yes, they did.
22:00
I mean, that was as shocking as anything for it to happen the
22:03
way that it did. What, what do we think?
22:04
What do you think you're going to see tonight?
22:06
I just love this Pacers team, so I.
22:08
Need to I take the points all day long, Trent.
22:10
Just too many, don't you think? I.
22:11
Think so too. 9 1/2. From where we were when this
22:14
series began to where we are today, it is a completely
22:18
different conversation now. I think they lost the series on
22:20
Friday. I do too.
22:21
I think that was their opportunity.
22:23
I think we said as much. They had to get out to a three
22:25
one lead to win the series. Now you got to win two out of
22:28
three, at least one of them in OK C.
22:31
It is a tall hill, but the Pacers once again have dictated
22:35
the way this series is played. And those role players have been
22:38
outstanding. Now they're outstanding at home.
22:40
Now can you get one of these two games, 5 or 7 where you get
22:44
those role, one of those? There is a 7 to get.
22:46
And it's probably two of those guys step.
22:48
Do you feel they have to get it tonight that that they have to
22:51
clinch in Indiana? Yeah.
22:53
I think so. Yeah, so it's back to must win,
22:57
but they faced it when we said it in game three.
22:58
They had to win that one. They did they do it one more
23:02
time get and how how about the theater of that this young
23:06
talented deep Thunder team facing elimination on the room.
23:10
I'm rooting for the Pacers. How can you not in a big time
23:13
love the story. I want it to happen just for the
23:16
spectacle that will get Game 6, because if it is, that'll be
23:19
great in Game 6 and maybe we'll get a Game 7 force.
23:22
But it just feels like it changes the complete tenor of
23:24
this one. The Pacers somehow, someway,
23:26
again find a way tonight. All right, well, if this is a
23:29
yes or no, is there a game seven in either of the Winter Sport
23:32
Championship Series? Not in Hockey I.
23:34
Don't think so either. I'm not OK, I'm holding out.
23:38
All right, I like it. We'll take a break.
23:39
We'll come back. Matt.
23:40
Rudy Moore, U.S. Open conversation on the other
23:43
side. Miller and Condon were on their
23:44
way on a Monday. It's the Iowa Sports Radio
23:48
Network. I'm Millory Condon, welcome back
24:02
just past 1230 on a Monday. Coming up, our number 2, Matt
24:06
Snyder covers Major League Baseball for CBSSports.com.
24:09
Alec Bussey, Iowa State, Trent's plays of the day, circus sports
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sponsor. Let's talk some golf.
24:14
Let's talk more golf. Matt Rudy, long time golf
24:17
writer, helps us out with yesterday's U.S.
24:21
Open. Matt Trenton can thank you as
24:23
always. I can't wait to see the
24:25
television number. Yes.
24:26
There was no quote big name on it, but my God, that was
24:30
phenomenal theater, was it not? Plus, you even got to see a
24:34
little bit of vintage Tiger Woods playing in the middle of
24:38
it. You got a You got a Tiger bump,
24:40
too in the rain delay. Yeah, I definitely think it was
24:44
amazing theater. And I think it's cool when golf
24:48
tournaments come down to the end under different conditions, you
24:52
know, instead of, you know, having to hit hero shots here, I
24:56
think you got to see a lot of car crash shots mixed, mixed in
25:00
with a couple of hero shots at the end.
25:02
I mean, the shots that JJ spawned, hit on 17 and 18, the
25:05
driver right on the green. And then, you know, to make that
25:08
putt was, you know, the finish was incredibly dramatic.
25:13
And I think it rewarded the guy who persevered.
25:17
I would hesitate to say that he played the best the whole week,
25:20
but he definitely persevered. The best to go through the rain
25:24
delay and be able to reset yourself and come out and play a
25:28
back nine. They shot 40 on the front 9.
25:31
I mean, I can't remember a time when a PGA 2, never mind the US
25:34
Open, but a PGA Tour event period where someone could shoot
25:38
40 on the front 9 and win and win the trophy, that's that's
25:41
remarkable perseverance. Yeah, we what Tiger and the
25:44
masters would that be the only one that way back then, but
25:48
that. Yeah, I mean, that was in the
25:49
first, first round, exactly. In the final, in the final
25:52
round, 40 in the on the front 9 in the final round, even when
25:55
someone had a giant lead where it didn't really matter.
25:58
Sure, 4040 is amateur territory. That's an amazing
26:03
accomplishment, especially on a par 70 golf course.
26:06
How far? I asked Trent this.
26:09
I haven't seen any analytics. If the putt doesn't drop, how
26:11
far past the hole is spawns? What would have been his putt
26:15
still to win for par on the final hole?
26:18
Do you have any idea how fast, how far that would have gone
26:20
past the hole? 4 feet?
26:22
5 feet? What did it look like to you?
26:24
I was talking to my friend Stan Utley, you know, the noted short
26:27
game coach. I was talking to him this
26:28
morning and he said that part was rolling.
26:32
It was remarkable not only for what he was able to do under
26:34
pressure, but that was perfect speed.
26:36
So in his in his assessment, perfect speed means finishing a
26:40
foot and a half doesn't go in. That's remarkable from 65 or
26:46
whatever it was 64 feet to, to roll it up like that, even
26:50
getting a preview like you did and your Victor Hovland was on
26:52
the exact same line. So even with that, there's so
26:56
much pressure. And when you think about how the
26:58
conditions had changed, you know, you have a green speed.
27:00
That's one thing. Then it pours rain and there's a
27:03
delay. Then you come out and it's a
27:05
crapshoot. Who knows what that green speed
27:07
is? So to be able to, to adapt and
27:10
to roll that ball under incredible pressure and, and do
27:14
it at a speed where you know, the, you know what, what's the
27:17
cliche? It rolled in like a putt.
27:18
Well, literally we rolled in like a putt.
27:21
It was that that was really impressive.
27:23
So you look at JJ Spawn, he's 5/8.
27:25
He's got a good club speed, but it's not a bomber.
27:27
This is not a guy you look at around the green metrics that's
27:30
high. How does he win this golf
27:31
tournament? I mean, a career journeyman.
27:33
How does it come together for four these four days with a guy
27:36
with his skill set? I think this was exactly like
27:40
the Open Championship last year, you know, like a Brian Harmon
27:43
kind of a tournament, you know, and, and you know, I think that
27:47
when when you can deal with the adversity of bad breaks, look at
27:51
what happened to him on Sunday on the 2nd hole, he has a really
27:55
good approach shot. It hits the flag and it bounces
27:58
50 yards off the green. I was at the British Open where
28:01
Sergio Garcia hit the flag in the playoffs and he came off the
28:05
course and did an interview and, and blamed what happened to him,
28:08
you know, on the golf gods having something against him.
28:11
So you can either have the mentality that when something
28:13
happens like that, you're, it's just not your day, or you can,
28:17
you know, make 5 bogeys in the front 9 like, like JJ Spawn did
28:21
and just decide that you're going to keep plugging along.
28:23
So the, the, the perseverance part, dealing with the elements,
28:26
dealing with the wind, dealing with the rain, that, you know,
28:29
that, you know, Brian Harmon played the Open Championship 2
28:32
years, two years ago, you know, in a full rain suit and, and it
28:35
didn't really change anything about the dynamics of his swing.
28:38
And he just kept doing what he did.
28:40
I mean, Zach Johnson's made a whole career on being able to do
28:43
things at places where people don't think he has the, the
28:47
physical tool set to do it, but just being determined to play
28:49
his game. If if, if laying up and hitting
28:52
wed shots into those par fives at Augusta Nationals, what he
28:55
needed to do, he did that. So I think that's what junior JJ
28:58
spawn did. You know, what are my strengths?
29:00
How do I keep doing things that set me up to hit shots?
29:02
I like to hit And the closer you can stay to what your game plan
29:06
is and and to and to hit those shots you like to hit.
29:09
I mean, I give him a tremendous amount of credit for getting a
29:12
short game lesson the week of the US Open.
29:14
He completely changed his his his short game approach and the
29:18
and the mechanics of his pitching and chipping to do that
29:21
the week of a major and to be willing to go and you know, you
29:24
know, put that into play, you know, the same week and haven't
29:28
worked so well. Number one, I'm sure it gives a
29:30
lot of business to the short game coach, but B the the
29:32
willingness to do it and trust it.
29:34
You know that that's some, that's some impressive presence
29:37
of mind and, and and faith and, and, and what you're doing.
29:40
I know Brian Manziel is a teacher that that you know, he
29:44
says that they got Sam Burns ruling wrong, that he should
29:48
have been given relief. It certainly affected Burns.
29:51
I mean, if he asked the first guy, the first official, the
29:54
nearest official, he said no. He said, can I get a second
29:57
opinion? They they also ruled against
30:00
him. By then, it was between his
30:01
ears. At least that's how I thought
30:03
because he'd been playing impeccable golf up to that
30:06
point. Did the USDA get it wrong by not
30:08
giving the leader at the time Sam Burns relief from casual
30:11
water? I don't know if by the letter of
30:15
the law they got it wrong. This is one of those rulings
30:17
where it's definitely an interpretation.
30:19
And when you when it's an interpretation, then it becomes,
30:23
well, whose interpretation is it?
30:24
Is it the player's interpretation?
30:26
Is it the officials interpretation?
30:28
And, you know, the actual rule is if you get into your normal
30:32
stance, if you see standing water, then it's you know,
30:35
that's when you can invoke the rule.
30:37
Now the my quarrel with the rule is seeing the standing, the
30:42
standing water is not, you know, there could be a situation where
30:46
your feet, you see a little bit of that standing water come up
30:49
and it doesn't have much impact on what when you're hitting the
30:52
ball. But you could, or you could have
30:54
a situation like we saw, which was, you know, where he was
30:57
standing. You might not have seen the
31:00
standing water around his feet, but clearly when his club hit
31:03
the ground it behaved differently.
31:05
I mean, he had to catch that shot so much more perfectly than
31:09
quote UN quote normal because that water and that muddy kind
31:13
of situation that the ball was in was going to make the club
31:16
head turn over and do things that he could not predict.
31:20
Now, in my opinion, this is such a high precision event and the
31:24
demands on the shots you have to hit are so high.
31:28
The interpretation of the rules should be in the player's favor.
31:32
If the player says I am, you know, I am clearly in standing
31:35
water to me. That's you know, he should
31:37
consult with his playing partner, the other for the
31:39
player who is in the group with him.
31:41
They should be discussing that and that should be that should
31:44
be the players interpretation because so much of what this
31:47
game is is the players interpretation of what did they
31:51
intend to do. This is a place where the
31:53
players interpretation I think should have won out.
31:56
World #2 Rory McIlroy, his highlight of the week is
31:58
throwing a club that bounced back to him and that's your
32:01
highlight of a major championship?
32:02
Probably not a very good but now I guess he battled to make the
32:05
cut. Played better yesterday.
32:06
However, Rory going into Port Bush, that'll be the next time
32:09
out at a major. What did we learn from him this
32:12
week? It was certainly his game.
32:14
Does not appear to be what it was back in April.
32:16
What do we know about Rory now going into the final major?
32:20
Well, I think what you heard him when he started to talk to the
32:23
media again, I think you started to hear the self talk that he's
32:28
trying to pick up to, to get himself back in the right
32:31
headspace. He said, I definitely, I climb
32:34
on Everest and I, you know, I needed to find a different, you
32:37
know, some different kind of challenge.
32:38
And I wasn't really ready for the PGA and I wasn't really
32:41
ready for the US Open. But if I can't get ramped up for
32:45
an Open Championship in my own backyard in my own country, you
32:49
know, what else is, you know, what else could I possibly get
32:51
ramped up before? So I think that that's the
32:53
beginning of the self talk and the narrative to, you know, to
32:56
say, OK, now it's time to to kind of get back to where I was.
33:01
There's no doubt that when everything is turned on and
33:04
then, you know, in the right position for him, he's as good
33:06
as anybody. It's just, I mean, I think, I
33:09
think it's it took more out of them than we could know.
33:14
Not only winning that tournament.
33:16
Then have all of the stuff happened with the, you know, the
33:18
story being somebody leaking the story about his driver going
33:23
into non conformance. I think with all the things that
33:26
have been going on between the PGA Tour and with Liv, I think
33:29
everybody's hypersensitive to those kinds of leaks and feeling
33:32
like there's a some kind of surgical precision with how that
33:35
happened. And you know who they're aimed
33:37
at. And I think it can make you feel
33:39
kind of paranoid and make you wonder who to trust and who not
33:42
to trust. And and he just clearly had had
33:45
enough of that. So I think it's the outside the
33:48
golf course stuff and learning how to be in this new space that
33:52
just takes time to deal with. And I'm going to take him in his
33:55
word and say, you know, this is a chance to go play in a
33:57
tournament that means something to him.
33:59
And, and hope that he gets back to where he was because having
34:02
him at full flight and having Scotty Scheffler at flight and
34:06
nicely, Scotty wasn't at full flight at the US Open either,
34:09
just by grit. He kind of hung in there and
34:11
shot some good rounds. But to see those two guys in
34:13
full flight is would be really fun.
34:15
I know I'm betting him just by, but after what he said and what
34:18
you just repeated what he said, if he's said something about
34:22
motivation, if he can't get motivated for this, as you said
34:25
he won't, nothing will motivate. And missed the cut the last time
34:28
it was there. Did he?
34:30
Oh, there's another angle. So what do we make of the news
34:32
this morning? Is Jay Monahan, the commissioner
34:34
of the PGA Tours are being pushed to, they're calling it
34:37
their sunsetting Jay Monahan, whatever that means.
34:40
I guess we'll all get sunset at some point.
34:43
What does this mean is are they pushing him out?
34:45
There'll be a new commissioner by the sounds of things.
34:47
Is this based on the fact that the PGA and Liv couldn't get to
34:51
an agreement and seemingly now are further away than they ever
34:54
have? Well, if I were guessing in my
34:59
part of my world is writing kind of peak performance books for
35:01
leaders and you know, entrepreneurs and business type
35:04
folks. And from, you know, being in
35:06
that world versus being in the golf world.
35:08
What that kind of language usually indicates is actually
35:11
that there's some kind of deal coming.
35:13
I don't know that to be true. I'm not trying to break any news
35:15
here. But usually when they do that,
35:18
it's not because the deal didn't happen.
35:19
It's because the deal did happen, and they want to have
35:22
some kind of configuration in the future that takes away some
35:25
of of the, you know, the baggage that the people might bring to
35:28
the new relationship. And, you know #1 there's,
35:32
there's always, you know, kind of a shelf life to those jobs.
35:36
And, you know, the players themselves could be sitting
35:38
around saying, hey, man, this was really contentious.
35:41
You know, there are a lot of parts of this that we didn't
35:43
like. There's a lot of part of the
35:44
communication that we didn't like.
35:45
And even if J Mon handled the actual mechanics of the deal
35:51
correctly, maybe there's some kind of bad blood with how that
35:55
was taken by the players. And at some point, everybody
35:58
just says maybe it's better to have a fresh person who hasn't
36:03
taken some of the, you know, the arrows that other people have
36:06
throughout the process. You're going to have a new CEO.
36:09
If there's a deal coming, there's going to be a whole new
36:11
structure. And to be honest, there's going
36:13
to be all new challenges for a new person to deal with.
36:15
You know, there's new TV stuff and new.
36:17
Yeah. How do you, how do you handle
36:19
the the new business piece of it?
36:21
There's definitely going to be somebody who's got a more modern
36:25
skill set that can be better positioned to do that.
36:28
So full circle, we got to see Tiger 2008 and we haven't had
36:33
many of these questions this year talking with you about
36:35
Rudy, but it got my eyes going a little bit.
36:38
Masters 2026 Is that the anticipated return for Tiger
36:42
Woods? That would make the most sense.
36:44
I mean, I don't think there's any hurry.
36:46
He doesn't. He doesn't have anything to
36:47
prove. And I certainly I would be
36:49
shocked if he decided that the time to go prove something would
36:52
be to fly across the world and do it somewhere far away.
36:55
That doesn't make a lot of sense when he could prepare for what
36:59
will probably be a warm weather event and the one at a golf
37:03
course where he's really familiar.
37:05
That makes the most sense to me. I think what we'll all be
37:09
talking about is what the level of expectation should be.
37:13
And I think, and we've talked about this a lot on this show,
37:17
every time you go through one of these rehabs, every time you
37:20
have more surgery, every time that's I think it's just making
37:24
the odometer spin faster relative to other people of the
37:28
same age. You know, you can be incredibly
37:31
fit and be in your mid 40s and late 40s.
37:34
I mean, Adam Scott looks like he's a specimen.
37:37
He's, you know, we didn't even need to think about what it
37:40
would be like to be 45 or 46 or 47 years old.
37:43
You know, Justin Rose is kind of in that same age category.
37:47
Tiger has more mileage on the clock because of all these
37:50
surgeries. So it remains to be seen, number
37:53
one, what his body will let him do and #2 how much it'll let him
37:56
practice. If he can practice enough.
37:59
There's a whole lot of golf IQ that makes the Masters a
38:02
tournament that he can be a factor in.
38:04
But if his ball speed is diminished, if he just can't
38:08
compress the ball the way he used to, I mean, there's no
38:10
amount of wishing and hoping that can overcome 50 or 60 or 70
38:15
yards of space between your ball and the next guy.
38:17
Can't wait to talk about it, but we've got AUA, British Open and
38:21
a a Ryder Cup to get to before we get to that point.
38:25
Take 4 weeks off from the Miller and Condon Show.
38:27
We'll talk to you the week of the The Open Championship.
38:30
Thank you Matt Rudy, appreciate everybody.
38:33
Take care. Yup, see ya Matt Rudy as we take
38:35
a look at the US Open from a long time golf analyst and golf
38:40
writer with Golf Digest, etcetera, etcetera.
38:44
Now doing ghost writing on all of these books.
38:46
We'll take your time out, come back and finish our #1 Miller
38:50
and Condon are on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
38:54
Our final couple of minutes. First hour of the program drive
38:57
coming up at 2:00. Lucas and Sean this afternoon.
39:02
The duo from 2:00 until 5. Don't have a lot of time that's
39:06
not worth a ton of time, but I do want to get to it at some
39:08
point in the program. Connor Mccaffrey's tweet from
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over the weekend. The Sense deleted tweet.
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Did he delete it? Yeah.
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Try to rub me the wrong way? Absolutely.
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He's I've said many times, he's my favorite Hawkeye basketball
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player. Not skill, just I love the way
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he played right. He's always first into the fight
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and stuck up for his teammates. You should have some guys higher
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in that list. But I get I probably true,
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probably true, but I'm not the fan fan that, you know, the 99%
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of our audiences. I don't know why people tell you
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still yell go Hawks when they see me like no go dogs, go
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Quakers, go fever. What?
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What would is he hurt that dad got fired?
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That's that's it, right? Yeah, he's butt hurt and.
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But he knows as well as anybody coaches are hired to be fired.
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His dad got 15 years at a Big 10 institution.
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Millions and millions of dollars. $30 million in salary.
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He lived a life of. He was an athlete.
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Silver spoon in his mouth. The University of Iowa gave his
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family that opportunity. Yes, it didn't end the way that
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they wanted. The fan base had checked out
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right. It's the reality.
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He doesn't live in reality. He lives in his own reality.
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That is frankly dead wrong and I think he continues to show his
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true colors. That's too bad.
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It's it was, it was. I was disappointed to see that.
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You shouldn't be, though, because these things have been
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out there. And when he was initially fired.
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Fran OK, be a little. Hurt.
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Yep, Yep, Yep. Get over it.
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We're months past that. Right, Your dad's got another
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job. Yes, you've got a job, the
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families doing well. Grow up.
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Yeah, exactly. Girl girlfriend is the most
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famous female athlete in the world.
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We're doing fine. And he's had plenty of those a
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lot of bad looks from Connor Mccaff.
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That was really bad. I was disappointed to see.
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ANYWAYS, hour number two, baseball to kick things off Matt
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Snyder, CBSSports.com, Alec Bussey on Iowa State.
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Trent will make some plays of the day.
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Boy, 9 1/2. That's a lot of point I'm not
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trying to influence. You.
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I can hear you. Hour 2 coming up next, Miller
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and Condon are on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.