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- 0:02You're listening to the Play Therapy Parenting Podcast
- 0:06with Dr. Brenna Hicks.
- 0:09Hi,
- 0:09I'm Dr. Brenna Hicks,
- 0:10The Kid Counselor.
- 0:11This is the Play Therapy Parenting Podcast
- 0:14where I give you insight,
- 0:15awareness,
- 0:15and enlightenment about your parenting
- 0:17and your relationship with your kids.
- 0:19In today's episode,
- 0:20we're continuing the Parent Companion series
- 0:23and we are diving into the seven most common
- 0:27presenting concerns and or behaviors
- 0:30for which children
- 0:32are part of the
- 0:34child-centered play therapy process.
- 0:36And I want to look at each one individually in a
- 0:39separate episode so that I can kind of unpack a little bit
- 0:44what it looks like in the playroom,
- 0:46how CCPT will address these concerns,
- 0:49and what is actually taking place while the
- 0:51child works through some of these issues.
- 0:55So,
- 0:55the first one we're going to tackle is anxiety.
- 0:58And this is something that
- 1:01has always been,
- 1:02I've been doing this for almost 21 years.
- 1:05Anxiety has always been a pretty consistent reason
- 1:09that parents seek child-centered play therapy.
- 1:12Interestingly,
- 1:13since COVID,
- 1:15There has been,
- 1:16I would argue,
- 1:17maybe a
- 1:18500% increase,
- 1:201,000% increase.
- 1:22The volume of calls for children struggling with anxiety in the last five years
- 1:27has skyrocketed.
- 1:29And so,
- 1:30I think that this has become a more pervasive issue
- 1:33and more common concern.
- 1:35And so we're going to start with that one because it's
- 1:39the reason why many,
- 1:40many parents are seeking therapy.
- 1:42So one of the things that we know about anxiety
- 1:46in children.
- 1:47is that there's often a predisposition for it
- 1:50related to personality.
- 1:52So,
- 1:52let me kind of paint the picture of anxiety as a whole,
- 1:55and then we'll dive into CCPT specific
- 1:58addressing anxiety.
- 2:00What we understand is that most of the time,
- 2:04children that end up very anxious at some point in childhood,
- 2:08they have a predisposition or a likelihood because of their personality.
- 2:12And we can argue that some of that is genetic.
- 2:15We can argue that some of it is just God-given personality.
- 2:18But essentially a child is born
- 2:21with either
- 2:22a little bit of an anxious bent
- 2:24or
- 2:25a little bit of a fearless bent.
- 2:26And so
- 2:27it's rare,
- 2:28if ever,
- 2:29that a child develops
- 2:31anxious behaviors or anxiety becomes a pressing issue
- 2:35if there hasn't always been an undercurrent of anxiety.
- 2:39So it's
- 2:40actually very uncommon for a parent to say,
- 2:43I've never seen any evidence of anxiety in my child until now.
- 2:48It's almost always under the surface where it's managed and controlled
- 2:54and tamped down to a degree.
- 2:57And then something happens
- 2:59that causes it to shoot up
- 3:01and then it's very,
- 3:02very difficult to get it back to that undercurrent surface level again.
- 3:08And so we know that there's likely a long running history
- 3:12of anxiety
- 3:14when kids are dealing with
- 3:16unmanageable levels of anxiety at some point.
- 3:19We also know
- 3:20that as children become more and more anxious,
- 3:23they start to fear the fear.
- 3:25So let's unpack that for a second.
- 3:27Kids,
- 3:28and this is true of all humans,
- 3:29this is not unique to just children.
- 3:31So if you have struggled with anxiety,
- 3:33you will understand what I mean with,
- 3:35you start to fear the fear.
- 3:37What typically happens is
- 3:39a very
- 3:40natural,
- 3:40organic,
- 3:42random scenario takes place.
- 3:44So,
- 3:45child chokes on a piece of food.
- 3:48It was a one-time thing,
- 3:49a random experience,
- 3:51an outlier,
- 3:52if you will.
- 3:53But
- 3:54that one moment
- 3:56is a catalyst
- 3:58for a lot of anxiety
- 4:00to increase after that.
- 4:02Sometimes a child
- 4:04goes through something pretty traumatic.
- 4:06So they get into a car accident,
- 4:07they
- 4:09experience a house fire,
- 4:10they
- 4:12Get injured pretty significantly and end up in a cast or something like that.
- 4:15So,
- 4:16isolated,
- 4:17unique moments in a child's history
- 4:20that are just natural and random,
- 4:22that becomes the starting point
- 4:26for anxiety to grow.
- 4:27And what happens is kids start to
- 4:31say,
- 4:31oh no,
- 4:32what if that happens again?
- 4:34And the oh no what if
- 4:36becomes a running dialogue for children.
- 4:39It's a running dialogue for adults too,
- 4:41but
- 4:41it's even more prominent for kids because
- 4:44kids are not rational.
- 4:45They're not cognitive.
- 4:46They can't think their way through things.
- 4:48So they're going to feel very deeply
- 4:50and feeling
- 4:52the fear
- 4:53of,
- 4:53oh no,
- 4:54what if becomes all consuming.
- 4:57So what we see often
- 4:59is that kids start to try to control
- 5:02things over which they have control
- 5:04as an antidote to the anxiety.
- 5:08In other words,
- 5:09when I feel anxious,
- 5:11I feel powerless.
- 5:12When I feel anxious,
- 5:14I feel out of control.
- 5:16When I feel anxious,
- 5:17the world is scary.
- 5:20It's unpredictable.
- 5:22It's not governable.
- 5:23I hate that feeling of vulnerability.
- 5:26So therefore I'm going to start grasping at control wherever I can.
- 5:31So we almost always see
- 5:33anxiety and control
- 5:35hand in hand.
- 5:36The fancy word for that is comorbidity.
- 5:39So we see a lot of comorbidity in children of high levels of anxiety,
- 5:43high need for power and control.
- 5:45And it makes sense because whatever happened
- 5:48to cause the anxiety,
- 5:49the child felt powerless.
- 5:52So I'm going to take power where I can because I don't ever want to feel that way again.
- 5:57So that's something else we need to keep in mind.
- 5:59And
- 6:00now let's talk about what happens when we have a
- 6:03child in
- 6:04CCPT.
- 6:06More often than not,
- 6:08anxious kids are slow to
- 6:12engage in the process.
- 6:13They're slow to get into their work.
- 6:16Their resistance is very high.
- 6:19And this would be true for even children that are not participating in play therapy.
- 6:24They are tentative.
- 6:26They're hesitant.
- 6:26They're timid.
- 6:27They don't dive in.
- 6:29They don't do anything quickly.
- 6:31There's just this cautious hesitance
- 6:34for almost everything that they do.
- 6:37And that's true in the therapy room as well.
- 6:39So,
- 6:39it takes them a while to build trust with the therapist.
- 6:42It takes them a while to get into work.
- 6:44And in the midst of that,
- 6:46when we go back to the phases,
- 6:47and if you're new to the podcast,
- 6:49first of all,
- 6:49welcome.
- 6:50So glad you're here.
- 6:51And if you are listening to this maybe as your first episode,
- 6:54and you've not listened to season 3 from the start,
- 6:57I would encourage you to do that.
- 6:59Obviously,
- 6:59season 1 and season 2 are there for your listening pleasure as well.
- 7:02But we are in an entire series for season 3.
- 7:06And we talked about the stages and phases
- 7:09and how the child will work through things in,
- 7:12in order,
- 7:12if you will.
- 7:14So,
- 7:14when we think about them moving through those phases,
- 7:17we know resistance is one of the four.
- 7:19And anxious kids' resistance is huge,
- 7:22and I'm sure if you have an anxious child in therapy or not,
- 7:26you have seen
- 7:27huge levels of resistance.
- 7:29Absolute refusal.
- 7:32Meltdowns,
- 7:33tantrums.
- 7:34I'm digging my heels in the sand,
- 7:35and you will not budge me.
- 7:37And it's seen as defiance,
- 7:39and it's seen as disobedience,
- 7:41and it's seen as rebellion and all of these things.
- 7:44None of those are actually at the root of what's going on.
- 7:47They're scared to death,
- 7:49and they're grasping at control.
- 7:52So we have to understand that that is a
- 7:54normal part of the process in child-centered play therapy.
- 7:57Everything is a little bit slower.
- 7:59Now,
- 7:59once they get into the work phase,
- 8:02they start tackling stuff and they're rolling and they
- 8:04get in their groove and they find their rhythm.
- 8:07But until then,
- 8:08there's a slower,
- 8:11more cautious pace,
- 8:12and we have to honor that and understand that the child will do
- 8:15what they need to do in their way and in their time.
- 8:18What do we see in sessions?
- 8:20Well,
- 8:21almost always with an anxious child,
- 8:23we see at some point fear facing behavior.
- 8:27And it's not,
- 8:27this isn't an interesting anecdote,
- 8:30because sometimes the fear facing behavior has nothing
- 8:33to do with the child's actual fear.
- 8:35Sometimes it does.
- 8:36I've had kids with debilitating
- 8:39fear of eating
- 8:40to where they
- 8:42have
- 8:43been diagnosed with failure to thrive by pediatricians.
- 8:46They've lost weight.
- 8:47They can no longer play sports.
- 8:48They refuse to eat anything other than liquids.
- 8:51I mean,
- 8:51I,
- 8:52my very first session with a child that I began with
- 8:55came with an NG tube.
- 8:57taped to the back of his neck and in place because they were
- 9:00feeding him through his NG tube because he refused to eat anything.
- 9:03So,
- 9:04I mean,
- 9:04there are times when
- 9:06it's a really huge
- 9:08fear
- 9:09and it's creating crisis and it's,
- 9:11it's scary.
- 9:12So sometimes in that scenario,
- 9:14kids will play out food,
- 9:16which is actually their fear.
- 9:18But oftentimes fear facing behavior is not
- 9:21really related to the child's specific fear.
- 9:25They're just facing fear in general.
- 9:28And what happens
- 9:30in this fear facing play
- 9:32is kids learn that they're resilient.
- 9:34They learn to trust themselves.
- 9:36They learn that they can handle things.
- 9:38They learn to problem solve.
- 9:41They learn that they are capable and competent.
- 9:44And that what once seemed very scary and overwhelming
- 9:48is no longer because
- 9:50I have faced it and I've conquered it.
- 9:53We don't see that early on in the process,
- 9:55but we do see it later on in the process when a child feels ready.
- 9:59They are willing and able to face fear,
- 10:03and
- 10:03the playroom is a judgment-free zone.
- 10:06Playroom is a consequence-free zone.
- 10:09And so once the environment and the relationship are so safe for the child,
- 10:14they feel capable
- 10:16of actually diving in and facing some of those fears.
- 10:18So we see that pretty consistently.
- 10:20We also see a desensitization
- 10:23to
- 10:24the anxiety and the fear.
- 10:26So what that looks like is
- 10:28kids will play out a scenario
- 10:30repetitively.
- 10:31That's true across the board for all issues,
- 10:34but specifically for anxiety,
- 10:36a child will play out a storyline
- 10:39or a dialogue or a scenario,
- 10:42and what happens
- 10:43when you do it repetitively,
- 10:44week after week after week.
- 10:47You desensitize yourself to the emotion,
- 10:50to the charge,
- 10:51to the intensity,
- 10:53because if you can construct something again and again and again,
- 10:56even if there's something scary in the play,
- 10:59even if you feel vulnerable in the play,
- 11:01even if you feel out of control in the play,
- 11:03even if
- 11:04the
- 11:05environment is always unpredictable and scary,
- 11:08you do it enough times repetitively.
- 11:10And it becomes less overwhelming.
- 11:13So the child is effectively desensitizing themselves
- 11:16to what is going on
- 11:18for their anxious issues.
- 11:21And I think the most important connection that can be made.
- 11:25When we think about a child pursuing CCPT
- 11:29with anxiety as an issue.
- 11:32As I've already mentioned.
- 11:34We see a very strong connection,
- 11:36positive correlation for those of you stats people.
- 11:40Everyone's like,
- 11:41Brenna,
- 11:42you're the only stat person.
- 11:43What are you talking about?
- 11:43OK,
- 11:44fine.
- 11:44I'm,
- 11:44I'm that stat nerd.
- 11:45I,
- 11:45I do like stats.
- 11:47I think
- 11:48the why matters and having data in front of you,
- 11:51to me,
- 11:51that's very exciting,
- 11:52but I know that is not shared as a sentiment most of the time.
- 11:55But positive correlation,
- 11:57comorbidity,
- 11:58strong connection,
- 11:59whatever you want to say between
- 12:01high levels of anxiety,
- 12:02high levels of control.
- 12:04OK,
- 12:04we understand that.
- 12:05So here's what happens over time in CCPT.
- 12:10As
- 12:11anxiety begins to reduce,
- 12:13so does the need for power and control.
- 12:16As the need for power and control reduces,
- 12:19so does the anxiety.
- 12:21So those are kind of parallel tracks that we often observe.
- 12:25children
- 12:26work on reducing anxiety and work on reducing their need for power and control.
- 12:31And then on the flip side of that,
- 12:34we see an increase in two things.
- 12:35We see an increase in self-esteem.
- 12:39Very consistently,
- 12:41highly anxious kids
- 12:42really do not have a sense of who they are.
- 12:45So not only are they constantly decreasing anxiety,
- 12:48they are constantly increasing self-esteem.
- 12:51Why?
- 12:51Because if you trust yourself,
- 12:53if you like yourself,
- 12:54if you know yourself,
- 12:55if you believe in yourself,
- 12:57if you accept yourself,
- 12:58and I can go on and on.
- 13:00When a child feels better about him or herself and feels more capable and confident.
- 13:07You will naturally feel like you can handle anxious situations more effectively.
- 13:12So those are very
- 13:14tied.
- 13:15We have decrease in anxiety,
- 13:17increase in self-esteem.
- 13:19And we also have an increase in emotional vocabulary.
- 13:23Kids who are highly anxious
- 13:26almost always struggle with recognizing their emotions,
- 13:30identifying them,
- 13:31and communicating them.
- 13:33That's why they become anxious because they feel these big feelings
- 13:37and they have no idea what to make of them nor what to do with them.
- 13:41So as they build an emotional vocabulary,
- 13:44and that increases,
- 13:46now all of a sudden
- 13:47they start to go,
- 13:49oh,
- 13:49OK,
- 13:49I'm nervous.
- 13:51I recognize it.
- 13:53I identified it accurately and now I can make my needs known.
- 13:58Hey mom,
- 13:58I'm nervous right now.
- 14:00I don't want to go meet that new person.
- 14:03Well,
- 14:03if you communicate your feelings,
- 14:05someone can address your need.
- 14:08Someone can sit in the pocket of that feeling with you.
- 14:12Anxiety is a silent internal.
- 14:16Swirl
- 14:18When
- 14:19people experiencing anxiety share that anxiety with others,
- 14:22if they talk about it,
- 14:23if they make it known,
- 14:24if they process it out loud,
- 14:26it doesn't have the power.
- 14:28The anxiety monster is diminished
- 14:31when you actually discuss it
- 14:32and openly process it.
- 14:35What
- 14:35is the most devastating outcome of anxiety
- 14:39is it's almost always an internal working
- 14:42that's spinning around in your brain.
- 14:44Oh no,
- 14:45what if?
- 14:45I don't want that to happen.
- 14:46I can't handle that.
- 14:47No,
- 14:47I'm not going to let that happen.
- 14:48I'm going to do this instead.
- 14:50There's this real fast paced dialogue
- 14:52that is a swirl of fear.
- 14:55But no one knows that you're dealing with it because you're just quiet.
- 14:59And so as kids develop an emotional vocabulary,
- 15:02now all of a sudden they're able to communicate their needs,
- 15:06have them met,
- 15:07process things out loud.
- 15:08It takes away the power
- 15:09that anxiety once had over them.
- 15:12So that's kind of a big picture overview
- 15:15of anxious
- 15:16kids
- 15:17and anxiety as the root of why children are in CCPT
- 15:22and how it unpacks itself in the playroom.
- 15:25Hope that that gives you
- 15:27a new perspective on your child's anxiety.
- 15:29And even if your child is not in
- 15:31play therapy and or you're not pursuing it.
- 15:34My hope is that if your one of your kids is anxious,
- 15:38this will give you some insight into how to help them,
- 15:41how to understand what's going on for them.
- 15:43And you can relate to them differently as a result,
- 15:46because as we all know,
- 15:48and we say over and over again,
- 15:49it always comes back to relationship.
- 15:52So we want to meet our kids where they are.
- 15:54We want to become a student of our children.
- 15:57Learn what makes them tick.
- 15:59Learn what makes them scared.
- 16:00Learn what makes them upset.
- 16:02Learn how they handle things.
- 16:03What's their predisposition?
- 16:05Are they going to externalize or internalize?
- 16:07Are they going to
- 16:09withdraw?
- 16:10Are they going to pursue?
- 16:11Are they,
- 16:12how do your kids respond if one of your children
- 16:15responds with anxiety?
- 16:17You need to learn how to meet them where they are and help them through that,
- 16:22even if you are not partnering with a child-centered play therapist.
- 16:26So,
- 16:26I hope that was encouraging and helpful.
- 16:28If you would like me to answer one of your questions,
- 16:30I would love to hear from you,
- 16:31Brenna at the kidcounselor.com.
- 16:34And it is my hope that every week that we hang out together,
- 16:37that you are reminded of how incredible your kids are
- 16:41and how they are worth pouring into
- 16:43and the relationship is the most important component
- 16:47of being a parent.
- 16:48I love y'all.
- 16:48We'll talk again soon.
- 16:49Bye.
- 16:50Thank you for listening to
- 16:51the Play Therapy Parenting Podcast with Dr. Brenna Hicks.
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