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NFL Week 13 MNF Showdown | Browns @ Broncos | DraftKings DFS Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All systems going clear the lift.
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  Speaker 2: What's Up?
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  Speaker 3: Ember one?
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Tamberin here aka Totagg and Tambo back for another
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  Speaker 1: edition of the Monday night Football Showdown. Show Here on
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  Speaker 1: the Ship at Nation YouTube station got Hoopster back from
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  Speaker 1: a quick piss title with me as always, I'll set
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  Speaker 1: the role, bring it in for you guys, gonna break
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  Speaker 1: it all down. We'll go through Captain's ownership, roster construction.
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  Speaker 1: Got the Jerry Judy Revenge game. My boy Dwayne was
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  Speaker 1: on the Takedown breakdown earlier. Shout out NYG fan fifty
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  Speaker 1: six minded us jamis at altitude. That's interesting. You know
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  Speaker 1: that could go one of two different ways, I think,
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  Speaker 1: but Hoopstar just emptied the bladder. It looks like on
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  Speaker 1: his way back in What's going on? My friend? How
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  Speaker 1: you doing?
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  Speaker 4: Went a little longer than anticipated. Usually I have time
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  Speaker 4: as soon as you hit that button to go and
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  Speaker 4: come back, and you know, I was a little little
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  Speaker 4: tight on time.
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  Speaker 3: But we're here.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 4: Pretty interesting game yesterday, I mean, big day in the
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  Speaker 4: end or in the community. A lot of massive wins.
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  Speaker 4: The tweet went out and some of those some of
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  Speaker 4: those numbers were very, very impressive. One hundred dollars into
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  Speaker 4: one hundred thousand was the highlight of the day yesterday,
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  Speaker 4: but a lot of other very solid.
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  Speaker 3: Wins and you know, the content was on point.
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  Speaker 4: People were able to parlay that into you know, solid
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  Speaker 4: solid in some cases probably life changing money, which.
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  Speaker 3: You'd like to see.
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  Speaker 4: And we're going to keep that momentum going tonight. I
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  Speaker 4: mean it's you know, low ish total, but I think
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  Speaker 4: in terms of showdown, it's rather appealing this game. I
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  Speaker 4: mean that's the thing with these Browns games, even if
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  Speaker 4: they're underdogs or not projected to a lot. You know
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  Speaker 4: what you're getting from our boy, Jamish. So we'll talk
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  Speaker 4: through it all and you know, get you can get
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  Speaker 4: back in the Winter circleit here tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was a good one to call out.
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  Speaker 1: Like you said, that's the thing. It's not really about
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  Speaker 1: the game or the score, the team totals. All that's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be a result and product of what we see
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  Speaker 1: the winners and people end up on hopefully us in
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  Speaker 1: our community. But it's a fun one for fantasy for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Any time you got Jamison at the helm title, bring
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  Speaker 1: you in man, what's going on, my friend? How you
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  Speaker 1: doing doing?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I just cannot stop thinking about how I did
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  Speaker 5: throw it over to me about Russell Wilson, I say, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: that man doesn't have no four hundred yard upside. Buddy
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  Speaker 5: drops four hundred in the mouth.
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  Speaker 2: So come on.
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  Speaker 5: That's why we always talk about, like, come on, anyone
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  Speaker 5: that thinks they know what's gonna happen ver attends they
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  Speaker 5: know ahead of time, Like this dude is the guy today,
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  Speaker 5: not this guy. That's why we preach find a process
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  Speaker 5: all that. My process was dust yesterday. I got to
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  Speaker 5: maybe make a little tweaks, but yeah, I mean, fun
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  Speaker 5: day of football, and shout out Evan Ingram and the
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  Speaker 5: rest for not ejecting them. But man, that was a
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  Speaker 5: dirty hit for shouting for stepping up for his teammate.
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  Speaker 1: Hare Bois Shaloup went back into the vault and found
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  Speaker 1: another video that same dude like elbow. It was like
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  Speaker 1: different game obviously, and Rochan wasn't even in the game,
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  Speaker 1: and this guy hops up buy of the huddle and
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  Speaker 1: just elbows him in the face. And the same dude
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  Speaker 1: that does it again. So just hate to see that.
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  Speaker 1: One time outside with him, it's like, buddy, don't don't
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  Speaker 1: any grand scheme, overview anything else you want to add
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  Speaker 1: there for this slate before we get into it.
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  Speaker 4: No, as I said in the opening, you know, we've
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  Speaker 4: had some some crappy showdown games, but like this is different,
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  Speaker 4: even with a low total. I think there's a lot
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  Speaker 4: to digest, a lot of you know, playable pieces. We
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  Speaker 4: have one big injury news with Tillman being out. He's
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  Speaker 4: kind of been wide received for one or not not
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  Speaker 4: necessarily one or maybe one A with Jerry Judy, so
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  Speaker 4: he's out, and I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I like this slate quite a bit, to be honest
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  Speaker 3: with you.
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  Speaker 4: I like what I seen from the Broncos, pretty easy
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  Speaker 4: to predict what they want to do. And then with
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  Speaker 4: with the Browns and Jamis at the Helm, a lot
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  Speaker 4: of different options, So excited to talk through this one.
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  Speaker 1: Jamis Jamari stacks as the Browns thrash the Broncos. Is
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  Speaker 1: what's that?
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  Speaker 3: So it might have to bring that puppy back as well? Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I had a terrible I had a terrible run out yesterday. Terrible.
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  Speaker 1: What was your runout? Hoop tell us?
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  Speaker 4: I had, you know prior to that? So I was winning.
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  Speaker 4: It wasn't like I was. It was top ten in
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  Speaker 4: the MILLI, but it was in everything else. It was
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  Speaker 4: like winning the slant thing. I was winning all the
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  Speaker 4: secondary non Milli maker contests before. It was right before
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  Speaker 4: the Bryce Young march down the field situation. So if
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  Speaker 4: that game just ends, I would a had a massive day.
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  Speaker 3: And of course he goes down gets the job done.
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  Speaker 4: And it was crazy because I had a ton of
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  Speaker 4: hit like way over the field on Bryce Young talked
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  Speaker 4: about on the show.
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  Speaker 3: But you know it's pretty dirty.
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  Speaker 4: You go from winning a ton to breaking even that's
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  Speaker 4: not a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 3: But the name of the game the nut worse.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, when that happens to the runot, someone said, I
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  Speaker 1: want that hat that's there as well. You go shop merch.
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  Speaker 1: You're good to go. But let's get into it title.
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  Speaker 1: I'll kick it over to you. Whop He gave his
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  Speaker 1: grand scheme overview, and you know, I think it's a
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  Speaker 1: fun one too. I always say I like her or
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  Speaker 1: hate a slate. I definitely love this one. I think
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of different ways you can go, and
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  Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be very common roster constructions that
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  Speaker 1: we can try and exploit. So I'll kick it to
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  Speaker 1: you first. What's your sort of grand scheme over here?
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  Speaker 1: You know, bo Nicks has really been dealing too, and
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  Speaker 1: now you get bo Nicks back and forth with Jamis Winston.
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  Speaker 1: So how do you see this thing playing out?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited.
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  Speaker 5: What I love most about it for DFS is just
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  Speaker 5: the plus thor of options at a lot of these
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  Speaker 5: positions on both sides. Like right away you look at
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  Speaker 5: the Browns chubbing forward to that. Depending on the game script,
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  Speaker 5: you can see complete different usage. Judy Elijah Moore obviously
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  Speaker 5: great plays no sed or Tillman, So it looks like
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  Speaker 5: Thrash he was the one that took over for Tillman
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  Speaker 5: when he went down. Looks like he's gonna be wide
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  Speaker 5: receiver three. But at the end of the day, who
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  Speaker 5: knows for sure? I mean, Tilman got hurt a little
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  Speaker 5: late in that game. The guy played twelve snaps. That's
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  Speaker 5: how I'm gonna go about it. That's how the industry
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  Speaker 5: is going to go about it. But who knows at
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  Speaker 5: the end of the day about that tight end. Both
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  Speaker 5: the Djoku and a Kins on the field run some
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  Speaker 5: twelve personnel, plenty of options right there brown side Broncos
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  Speaker 5: there might even be more all three of those running backs,
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  Speaker 5: estimate McLoughlin. Javonte get work, Sutton Ballet, Mims, Lil Jordan,
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  Speaker 5: Troy Franklin, all those dudes get work. Just Reynolds might
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  Speaker 5: be back today, so good luck in that. And then
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  Speaker 5: tight Ends they run three of them as well. So
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  Speaker 5: what I love is there's not just some of these
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  Speaker 5: spots like the Falcons. Kyle Pitt, Ray Ray Mooney, Bijon Drake,
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  Speaker 5: move on with it. Both these offenses have a lot
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  Speaker 5: of different ways, and I think, how do you think
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  Speaker 5: the game script goes, especially with the chubb Ford stuff
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  Speaker 5: will dictate roster construction and builds that way.
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  Speaker 1: Man, I forgot. You just reminded me of my enemy
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  Speaker 1: is on this slate those help trees in the building,
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  Speaker 1: so oh no, I got to think of it. I
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  Speaker 1: might have to jam his acid captain and I just
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  Speaker 1: see how that looks and hope to get some payback
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  Speaker 1: on it. But who that's your boy, right l J.
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  Speaker 1: This is the spot to play. I'm it showed it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred percent of it is. And I can't
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  Speaker 4: wait to chat about him this afternoon. And it's the
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  Speaker 4: one situation where I'm gonna be able to talk about him.
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  Speaker 4: You guys aren't going to be able to make fun
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  Speaker 4: of me and you know, ban his name from conversation,
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  Speaker 4: so it feels good.
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  Speaker 1: No, the title was already poking a few holes saying
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  Speaker 1: what if we get Reynolds or anything like that. So
• 9:40
  Speaker 1: shout up to our guy Takedown always in here, appreciate, says,
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  Speaker 1: I'll be doing my Christmas shopping on the site. People
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  Speaker 1: ask me at the gym what is shipping? I tell
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  Speaker 1: them money making machine.
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  Speaker 4: Website like that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just a print fest. A printer so love
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  Speaker 1: to see that. I don't have any extra thoughts to
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  Speaker 1: what you guys are bringing up, but I do think
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  Speaker 1: that's what this slate interesting, as there is different ways
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  Speaker 1: to go. Like you said to Judy stuff and then
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  Speaker 1: thrash stuff on the brown side at the running backs title,
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  Speaker 1: I thought you made a huge point there, which we'll
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  Speaker 1: get to that position of like Ford still has to
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  Speaker 1: be in the mix at five thousand less than Chubb,
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  Speaker 1: but we also still have been waiting for the big
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  Speaker 1: Chubb game, if there's gonna be one coming back and whatnot.
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  Speaker 1: And then on the other side with the Sutton stuff, right,
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  Speaker 1: I want to see how that goes because he's just
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  Speaker 1: been so popular even on main slates. I can only
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  Speaker 1: imagine it's gonna keep creeping up when it gets to
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  Speaker 1: a showdown slate like this, and I think he's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be pretty popular up top. And then we got the
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  Speaker 1: stone up you can see the grades. I mean, one
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  Speaker 1: of the interesting things to me is the Browns have
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  Speaker 1: not been very good against the run. It is in Denver.
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  Speaker 1: They are home favorites. You know, there is that opportunity there.
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  Speaker 1: And if it's gonna be bon Nicks and Courtland Sutton
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  Speaker 1: up top and we're going into captains in a second anyway,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I have to have some interest in these
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  Speaker 1: running backs. I know it's split up a little bit there,
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  Speaker 1: but I think there is still gonna be interest for
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  Speaker 1: me on that side. But hoop, I'll start with you
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  Speaker 1: talk to us about your captains, man, what are we
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  Speaker 1: doing here?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: So, I mean bon Nix has been really good, there's
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  Speaker 4: rushing upside. The probably the one thing on the slate
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  Speaker 4: that the pricing is very soft. I mean the most
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  Speaker 4: expensive guy is Sutton at ten two, so bone Nicks
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  Speaker 4: comes in at ten and Jameis Winston at ninety six.
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  Speaker 4: So I am I'm definitely interested in Jamis potentially playing
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  Speaker 4: from behind and Bonnick. So to me, both quarterbacks are
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  Speaker 4: going to be in play for me today. Sutton has
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  Speaker 4: been really really good with Nicks, very steady with upside.
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  Speaker 4: He's been twenty one, twenty six, nineteen, fifteen thirty, been
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  Speaker 4: one of the more consistent wide receivers all season long.
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  Speaker 4: Andy's showing the upside, so I want to be there,
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  Speaker 4: you know, the ninety six for him or ten, ten
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  Speaker 4: to two for him. But after that it gets somewhat difficult.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, Jerry Judy, I'm cool with at nine K.
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  Speaker 4: He's been relatively solid, He's flashed some upside as well
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  Speaker 4: coming off you know, he's been study too, I mean
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  Speaker 4: thirteen fourteen as a twenty nine fantasy point game and
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  Speaker 4: fourteen and a half. But after the quarterbacks, after Sutton,
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  Speaker 4: after Judy, it gets a little bit difficult for me
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  Speaker 4: in terms of guys that I potentially want to play.
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  Speaker 4: You know, maybe in Djoku at eight four I think
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  Speaker 4: is in play a little bit, big upside, multiple touchdown upside,
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  Speaker 4: can can certainly get there. Interested in him. If I'm
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  Speaker 4: gonna go anywhere else, it would potentially maybe be some
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  Speaker 4: of these other Browns wide receivers. I gotta see like
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  Speaker 4: when I go in and build. But for me, the
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  Speaker 4: ones that definitely stand out with the quarterbacks, Sutton, Judy,
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  Speaker 4: you know, maybe can make the case for Javonte Williams
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  Speaker 4: but really hasn't had like a big game, maybe just
• 12:39
  Speaker 4: one big game all season. McLaughlin gets some work, is
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  Speaker 4: he what's what's his price?
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  Speaker 2: Teg?
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, he gets some work as well, So it
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  Speaker 4: does take away from Javante. So for me, my main
• 12:54
  Speaker 4: focus is going to be the quarterbacks. It's gonna be Sutton,
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  Speaker 4: it's gonna be Judy, and then I might take a
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  Speaker 4: look at some of these other Brown's pass catchers, maybe
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  Speaker 4: in Djoku potentially Elijah Moore. But the it's like a
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  Speaker 4: core four for me, and then I'm going to see
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  Speaker 4: when I build, like do I need to add on
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  Speaker 4: do I need to add more pieces? And then that's
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  Speaker 4: when I'll start introducing some of those other guys, and
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  Speaker 4: I'd probably go to the Browns past catchers first. So
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  Speaker 4: it's kind of my initial thoughts at the position. But
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  Speaker 4: I really really like bo Knicks and I really like
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  Speaker 4: Courtland Sutton. I'm guessing they're probably gonna get a lot
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  Speaker 4: of ownership though, so man so we're saying Bonnicks at
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  Speaker 4: twenty six percent captain ownership. Yeah, I mean the reason
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  Speaker 4: that's there is because the salary is very very soft
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  Speaker 4: ten K. It's easy to play him up there. You know,
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  Speaker 4: Winston only at ten, so maybe that makes sense, like
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  Speaker 4: getting overweight on Winston where we know a lot of
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  Speaker 4: people are going to be going to bo Nix.
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  Speaker 3: I don't I guess.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe this valet or vellet valet how I don't know,
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  Speaker 4: you know the pronunciation.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure someone in the chat has it.
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  Speaker 4: Probably don't mind him either, Like he's actually been pretty
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  Speaker 4: solid and.
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  Speaker 3: You know, Nicks has been looking to him quite a bit.
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  Speaker 3: Just wanted to pull it up.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, nine targets last game, So yeah, he's a guy
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  Speaker 4: I could throw in there. Well, it's gonna be the
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  Speaker 4: quarterbacks and pass catchers thoe for me.
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  Speaker 3: Long story short.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll go to you in a second time. I
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  Speaker 1: will say just a couple thoughts leading off of that,
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  Speaker 1: because I'm gonna do what I usually do and try
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  Speaker 1: and look for ways, like you know, I just go
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: against the grain because it's they make perfect sense. Everything
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: Whop just said is the reason these are the best
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: plays on the slate, I will probably have to be
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: underweight on Nix and Sutton. I'll use it to get
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: overweight on Winston. And I'm actually gonna play and advocate
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: for this today. Playing Broncos D and Will Luttz will
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: both be a captain for me today. I just think
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be a day to get unique at captain
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: for me. I talk about this in my slate plan
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: over at ship at Nation when I'm doing this stuff,
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: and the amount I can come down on bo Nix
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: and Sutton and even Judy if he can tell again
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: he's not showing steam right now, but I feel like
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: it's gonna just get steamed up a little bit. I'm
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: fine with those being popular for good reason, but I'm
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: gonna try and move it around to some of these
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: other spots. And I think, you know, Broncos D at home,
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: it's it still makes sense they're a six point favorite.
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: It's Jameis Winston on the road like this could be
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: a bad scene. So I'm actually usually not for that
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: starting the show off bad hoop. I apologize, but that's
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: one time I feel like it's actually welcome, and like
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: I said, it's weird. You don't see the Broncos d
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: getting any steam today, especially up top. It's like two
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: percent and haven't seen it anywhere get talked about really
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: so title. I'll kick it to you on that note,
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: but probably not as high on the main three captains
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: as everybody else tonight. I'm gonna look to get different
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: via the captain spot.
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm more like I like the Browns a lot
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: more than the Broncos captain. Seeing bo Nix and Sutton
• 15:28
  Speaker 5: at these ownerships, I'd so much easier to get overweight
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: on Jamis, Judy Elijah Moore. I'm definitely playing David Njoku.
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: I'm definitely playing Jamis can sling it everywhere like the
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: more priced day you can put.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: In the Judy Captain, drop Judy down to more et cetera.
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: So the Nick Chuff stuff I've been debating last time
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: there on the showdown State on Thursday, it was Hoop
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: and I it was the Steelers, an awful matchup. He
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: was literally looking at the same ownership like two percent,
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: really good rushing d Chuff hasn't been great, fell in
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: the box twice and was on the winner. They were
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: underdogs in that game too. If you flip it and
• 16:03
  Speaker 5: just like the Browns beat the Steelers. If the Browns
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: beat the Broncos today. Nick Trubb at two owner three
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: percent own at captain second best touch on prop on
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: the slates twenty rushing or twenty rushing attempts in the
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: past two I believe two percent like I get five,
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: I can get double.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: So I think I'm gonna be playing Chubb. I know
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: I will be playing Javonte Williams.
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: He's one of my favorite captains on the slate leverages
• 16:25
  Speaker 5: Bonnicks leverages, Courtland Sutton best touch on prop on the
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: slate at plus one thirty.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: And I was looking at like Blea two.
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: I mean Jamonte's receiving receptions two and a half juice
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: on the over Balle three and a half the same juice.
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: So if I'm getting a running back that'll touch the
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: ball more on the ground, has similar reception upside according
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: to the props, I think he can get there in
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: a variety of different ways. Again, could catch the ball.
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: His best touch on prop on the slate at plus
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: one thirty. And finally, we've seen the last two weeks
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: he has, I mean dominated the rushing room because the
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: other guys in the Glofflin's still working in estimate, still
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: working in but he's doubled up both of them. We're
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: thirty eight to twenty on the Gloughlin finally playing over
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: fifty percent of snaps. Again, it's not a true who
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: do we talk about, like Hollared without spears and some
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: of these running backs, Chase Brown we talked about it's
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: no trades Brown usage, But fifty five percent at this
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: ownership with all the leverage it gets me. I absolutely love. Yeah,
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: I don't even know if I'm gonna go Villa because
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: I like so many of these other guys. I think
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: he's totally fine. But when we get to that wide
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: receiver room again, Lil Jordan's gonna get it on the field,
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: Troy Franklin, Marvin Ninz, we have to be on the
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: lookout of Josh Reynolds gets activated as well. So long
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: story short, love, jamis love, Javonte Williams, Judy.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: Moore in a joke, who will be overweight?
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: And I think I'm gonna be under on bow and
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: Ston just because I think that's over owned on a
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: slate where I could see so many of these guys
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: getting there. So yeah, similar to you, but Yeah, you'll
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: get one percent on on defense and Kicker, I won't
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: be doing.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: It, but I get it.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, LUTs at home could just be booting him in
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: our guy Jordan and says what if it's five, that
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: can happen too. Yeah, so you never know how the
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: game's gonna go again. I'll be building for a couple
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: of different scripts myself, but I really like your call and
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Javonte and busting out the props to match it. You know,
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: that always gets me excited. I know Hoop was talking
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: about yesterday he was taking some from you, Getting some
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: from you when we got those makes me feel even
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: better about it. And I like being Joku call like
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: I'm with you know, the Judy the more the Winston
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: stuff more than the Nick Sutton stuff. But yeah, go
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: to Ndjoku why not? And I think you know, Lee
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: does a great job explaining this here, Hoop, I'll come
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: back to you. But it's all the value right when
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: you got a guy like Thrash, Do you have the
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: dry run, Hoop? Maybe or I can pull it up
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: if you want to talk about it.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I did it, I pulled I got it here.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Let me Yeah, sorry about that. I meant to have
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: it up early. But if you got I was just
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: gonna say that is well, you're pulling it up. That's
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: to Lee's point. Once you have a guy like Thrash
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: making everything else work, that's where you're gonna just have
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: it natural that it's gonna make it even more likely
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: that Nix or Sutton or one of those guys is
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: gonna end up up top. But I just need to
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: have one of them fail and have it be a
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: little bit more balanced build and then I can get
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: you know, good stuff up top that way too. So
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: and how I actually think the game's gonna play out?
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: Go ahead? Yeah, so it's what, Yeah, I kind of
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: what you expected.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: Like sixty you got sixty three percent bon Nicks and
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: then twenty percent Sotton, So all but seventeen percent of
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: ownership is going.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: To those two guys.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: So now seeing this like to me, like for what
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: I want to do tonight, probably more Brown's passing game
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: and hope that's it. Maybe you know, more Jamis more
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: in Djoku, more Judy, more Elijah Moore is.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: Kind of the route that I'll probably be looking to go.
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna play Nix, I'm gonna play Sutton but getting
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: overweight on those sort of guys, to me makes sense.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: Let's go to the flex and see forgetting anything crazy.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: So Sutton eighty percent obviously, Judy Williams, Nick Winston, Knicks,
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: Broncos D thirty two. So this is pretty straight up
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: nothing crazy. Where's the Thrash dude? Yeah, so Thrash is
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: only showing up fifteen percent, so you're able to get
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: whatever the hell you want. So this tells me immediately,
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: I want to be looking to leave a lot of
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: salary on the table today. For one reason, we're able
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: to get the highest priced captains on the slate at
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: eighty five percent, and we go to the flex and
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: nothing crazy is in here. There's not like a four
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: hundred dollars guy that's showing up at like seventy percent.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: This is very straight up.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: So if you are playing Nicks, if you are playing Sutton,
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: leave a lot of salary the table. Even if you're
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: playing the other guys, you probably want to look to
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: leave a lot of salary on the table. This just shows,
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: like the main thing, the main takeaway for me for
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: this dry run is how easy it is to build
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: very good teams tonight.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: It's very easy.
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: You're not sacrificing basically any positions at all to get
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: the two highest priced captain, So that means everything is
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: going to be very easy. If you go with the
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: cheaper captain. That doesn't mean they're going to be different
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: because all those teams are going to look the same.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: If you go a cheaper captain, you're going to get
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: Nicks in there and you're going to get Sutton in
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: there with ease, So you need to be looking to
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: do things differently. It's just a very softly priced slate tonight.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which I like that I call though, because that's
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: a you know it well, you are kind of going
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: to a similar type build. That's where you you what
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: you're hoping for. At least for what we all three
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: of us just talked about is that the Knicks Sutton
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Captain owners are disappointed when they're only needed in the
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: flex and it's still a similar build. But it's like,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: oh it ended up being Elijah Moore Captain or in
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Djoku Captain. We got it all fitting in that way,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: left some money whatever it might be, So lots of
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: different ways you can get unique with it. I saw
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: in the chat, Like Jordan mentioned, you could do stuff different.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: If you do want to play someone like Nick's up top,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: you don't, you don't play them without Sutton in the
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: flex and instead go to like maybe throws one to
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Javonte the kicker, the d are involved and in the
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: other way. So lots of other things that you can
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: do with that title. Did you have anything else you
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: want to add at captain? If not, take us into
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: some quarterback and then if nothing else to add there,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: based on the same conversation, you can go to running back.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: No, I think Hoop's last point about like the chief
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: captains not really needing it as much, and there's just
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: a plethora of options that are mid tiered to cheap
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: that I don't think like we're starving for value on
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: like a Covey SLA or stuff like that, So I
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: don't love it as much.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: The cheapest I would go is Vlay. I think that's
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: how you pronounce it. I hope that's how you pronounce it.
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: He's the cheapest i'd go, and I don't necessarily love
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: him because again we're gonna get to receiving room with
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: the Broncos. I'm not confident in how that rotation's gonna
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: go outside of sting. But yeah, more of the story
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: is I like spending up more at captains and I
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: think those Browns guys or I'm going to be attacking
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: most with Javonte Williams.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: You said to take us into running back.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Well, I was gonna say two things. First, because who
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: dipped out so we made it twenty two minutes and
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: he had to go again. So first out, there's that.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Second of all, he can hear us probably, so that's
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: good news. Second of all, you just said something there,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: But I don't want to lead into it. I want
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: to get the chat. So let us know what you think.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: The final score of this game is the who wins?
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: What the score is? Start throwing your numbers in the chat. Yeah,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: take us into running back there title go ahead?
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, running back.
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: So Brown stuff is really easy in the fact of
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: when they're playing from ahead and it's early bounds and stuff.
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: They want to get Nick Chubb involved. When they're and
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: the Broncos are up two touchdowns or something, it's Jerome Ford.
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: If you look at last week, Nick Chubb out snapped
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: them thirty eight to twenty. They were leading that game.
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: They beat the Steelers week prior Jerome Ford out snapped
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: Chubb forty one to twenty two. They lost that game
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: thirty five to fourteen. Week prior Ford to thirty six
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: Chub twenty eight. They lost that game by a good
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: amount twenty seven to ten. So I feel very confident.
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: If you do think Browns win or they cover and
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: it's a close game, I lean into Chubb Moore if
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: you think the spreads are out right Broncos lead more.
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: I leaned into four at the end of the day
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: looking at it though, twenty nine percent flex for Chubb,
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: fifteen percent forod I think it's easy to get overweight
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: on both of them and just you pick your game scripts.
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: I don't love playing them both together, but because of
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: the price that showdown, any random stuff can happen, so
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: I'm not gonna exclude that rule. But the rune back
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: room for the Browns both of them under thirty percent,
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: and it feels it's clear depending on which way the
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: game goes, I'm definitely gonna be playing that. And then
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: you look into Chubb stuff even more price really close
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: to Winston, Knicks, Portland Sutton as well.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: That'll keep him as a low owned piece up top.
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: Everyone's gonna prefer both quarterbacks or Sutton other side with Broncos,
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: I like Javonte, I pointed that out.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: The thing with Estimate McLoughlin is, I mean they got
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: to do something.
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: They are up there by the kickers, the defenses, as
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: you see in the Flex ownership.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: It does keep their ownership down, or it will keep
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: their ownership down.
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: McLoughlin's my lean, just because he got twenty slaps last
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: week to Esimate's five, which was a change the week
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: prior to Estimate out snap McLoughlin.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: So I'm just gonna hope that trend continues at the
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: end of the day.
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: Though though I don't like either of those guys much
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: and it's pretty much gonna be chubbed Ford Javonte, but
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: I do like all three of them in the Flex.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Do you see anything for weather at all?
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: Title I did not, let me look at you old
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: just really cold, uh low wind so nothing nothing crazy,
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: just cold weather, no precipitation or anything.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Before I go to hoop on running back, he already
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: came through and let the chat. No, it was a
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: little just too much chug into the water after the gym,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: So that's good. Keep yourself happy, but so title you
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: set a point before I go to hoop on running back,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: you said like something that led to me thinking like
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: the game flow and the game script of it, and
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: I feel like this is the case, and this just
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: proved it. Now like two people have the under everybody
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: else has fifty plus points in this game. I just
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know about that. I really starting to like
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: this slate a lot more than you know. If it
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: is twenty seven twenty four, there's lineups that can still
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: get there. When that happens, that's means points got scored
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: and guys can start to add up. But we definitely
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: could get a game that's like seventeen to ten or
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: something here, Like it's still Thursday night football. It's still
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: too it's still the Browns in the Broncos. Anything can happen,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: And I think that's a little bit interesting. Who do
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: you have any thoughts on that or you know, anything
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: you want to add there before you go into running back.
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: I think people are thinking, you know, we saw the
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: weather game last night, and we know this is like
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: a colder, you know, part of the country. So people,
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: you know, we saw the bills put up like thirty
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: what do they score thirty five real life points, it
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: could go either.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, Like get a lot of people.
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: Are saying the over it's either like one extreme or
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: the other, like way over or way under. I mean,
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: who the hell knows, Like it's not gonna I don't.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: I have no strong lean in regards to the over
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: under on this game.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: So do you do anything with your builds? I know,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: like we talk a ton offline obviously, but like I
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: guess for this specifically. You know, I talk about it
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: all the time building in sets, right, and I think
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: you go back to like PGA dfs where it's like
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: when you know there's a weather edge one way, but
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: it's like it could get delayed, so sometimes you'll build
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: for both sides. Would you build anything for the under tonight,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: just because you know a lot of people are looking
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: at the over, because that's where I think my lineup's
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: with Broncos D or the kicker or even like a
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Chubb or someone could start to make a little bit
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: more sense if the game is a little bit lower scoring.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't hate that move.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: I mean, I mean that's something that you'd have to
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: obviously do handbuilding or if you're building in SUTs like
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: you kind of build in SUTs. So if you're gonna
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: take you know, twenty lineups or whatever and build for
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: low scoring.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah you're gonna want some deef hunt is in there.
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: Maybe these running backs where if they find the end
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: zone once, it's good enough to be on the winner.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: So that sort of thing. So if you're handbuilding or
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: building in sets, you can certainly do something like that
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: for sure.
• 27:11
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• 27:13
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• 27:15
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• 27:18
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• 27:21
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• 27:23
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• 27:28
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• 27:30
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• 27:32
  Speaker 1: know for showdown and be able to get yourself set
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: up for success there. So I just want to show
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: that off.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: Go ahead, hoop uh Yeah.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: In terms of the running back, Nick chubbed to me
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: is the worst play on the slate. So if people
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: are looking for the hoop, it worked at the worst
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: game of the slate yesterday.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: They worked out quite well.
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: These calls have been pretty on point recently, like you
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: did not need Seattle, you did not need the Jets.
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: I said, you can take the whole team. And that's
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: going to be the hoop shit on Play the Day today,
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: it's going to be Nick Chubby freaking say, it's just
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: not good twenty rushes last time, and I get the
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: Steelers defense is good.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: He did end up on the winner, fell in the
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: box twice.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: It was two plays I remember where It's just like, okay,
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: it's Nick Chubb inside the five, obviously there and give
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: it to him.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: He sucks. I'll have zero Nick Chubb tonight, and I
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: feel really good about it.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: But I will say, if you are playing a meno
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: title kind of liked him a little bit, and that's fine.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: If you are playing him, I think the best way
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: to play him is just put him in the captain
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: and hope he gets one hundred and two touchdowns.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: For me personally, like I just have zero interest in Chubb.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: I like the ownership, I don't necessarily like him.
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: Gone to my head, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, But
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: he's gonna get He's gonna get a chunk in the
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: flex for sure, Like people are gonna play him in
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: the flex, I mean probably over thirty percent. So for me,
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: you just I would rather just get the ultimate leverage
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: just playing in Captain. Hope he falls into the bucks twice,
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: because that's the only way he's gonna be.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: On optimal tonight.
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: I mean, he fell in the box twice last game
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: and got nineteen Fantasy points, like fifty nine total yards.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: Two touchdowns. He's dust man. He's just not very good,
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: can't move, so fade for me.
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: That being said, like if I don't like him that much,
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: I have to like Ford, and I do like Ford.
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: A very good price tag on him at forty four,
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: so I'll be way overweight on Ford and fading fading Chubb.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: The Denver stuff, though, to me, is tricky.
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: I mean it's they use three guys now, Javonte Williams,
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: McLoughlin Estimas. It's difficult and the price is down on Williams.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: I mean, sixty eight hundred is cheap. But I'm not
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: gonna be forcing any of those guys in. Like these
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: are gonna be plays if they get in my lineups,
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: and it makes sense, I'm gonna play them. I'm just
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: not forcing into any of the Denvers. So for me,
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: by far, my favorite running back play is Jerome Ford
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: and it's not even close. Like to me, Jerome Ford
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: is in a tier of his own in terms of
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: like how I'm looking at these running backs and how
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: much I'm gonna play them Jerome Ford and then like
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: all those Denver guys, and then Nick Chubb in the
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: garbage can at the bottom.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: The garbage can at the bottom is that Nick Chubb
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: is just not good. Who brother, those could be your
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: last words has not.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: Been Guess what I got?
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: I got some free reign because my calls, I add
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: like five straight on these calls, So take it for
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: what it's worth.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The other thing you had yesterday you forgot about
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: the remind me on the takedown breakdown earlier, was you
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: also said I never played Bryce Young. This is the
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: first time in forever. And we always talk about you
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: taking someone that you that nobody plays or is no
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: good and then making them into something. He's on the
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: winning five point fifty five million maker yesterday and obviously
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: had a really good day at forty seven hundred bucks.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: So yeah, that was also has been good Terry McLaurin yesterday,
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: I and the calls have been spot on, so take it.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: Take it for what it's worth. With the nick chum,
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: I get it if you like him playing, but I
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: think he's an awful play.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: And it's what you said. I kind of like you.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: You framed it up, you had you had every angle
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: covered for what your process is of. If this then
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: that you're like, if it's gonna be him, you bet
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: you may as well just try him in the in
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: the captain if that's for you, because he could just
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: fall in twice and get one hundred yards.
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: You know that.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: But why weigh thirty percent in the flex is what
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: you're saying. And then if I'm not doing that, then
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: why not get overweight on the guy that's five grand
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: cheaper on the egg exact same team. And here's Billy gableman,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: my boy stat atl what he say. Chubb has no
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: pass game work, he doesn't score, He's useless. Some recent
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: running back results against Denver Jon sucked, Hunt sucked, Tchuba sucked.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: They all sucked. Kamara breeze, there you go.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: I like that.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: Thanks for backing me up on that, so you know me,
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: it's like all eye test stuff. I don't really have
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: like numbers to back this shit up. And now no,
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: my my boy Billy came with the with the receives,
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: so I like that.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Back up Billy on the lot on uh titled you
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: got some some different thoughts. You said, I like the ownership,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: but you weren't going as far as saying Nick Chubb sucks.
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: But go ahead, No, I talked right, Mack, But I
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: just had to be honest. Someone brought it up like
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: three percent Chubb in December, like to be honest. When
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: he did on Monday, it was the same thing who
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: hated Chubb.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: I like Chubb.
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: I'm not gonna take the victory lap. But it literally
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: it could be the exact same flex captain ownership. They
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: were like this exact Dogs, the total was similar, Like
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: it's the exact same thing. But what Hoop said, he
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: does have to fall in the box if you think
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: this game goes under though, like that Steelers game was
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: a little under and he does fall in the box twice.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: That's what we saw. Like his nineteen twenty was captain
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: winner because of that.
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm gonna play it, but I agree with
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: who my favorite running guy play is ford at price.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: For I mean, if it trails, he gets more snaps,
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: you can leave four K, three K.
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: Like, I'm definitely the agreement there, but I could see
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: him getting a little steam. And I just I think
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: Chubb has to be low owned due to his pricing
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: and who's around him.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't know much to add it. I
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: think you guys both covered it well, so I'll save
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: it for wide Receiver. Were going to a second. But
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: to Ross's point, this is certainly correct. But I mean
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: we're talking about Elijah Moore, Jamuri Thrash Lil Jordan Humphrey
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Vlay Like, it's not like we got these, you know,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Murderer's robe.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: Wide easy easy, Now, come on easy.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Marvin Mims Junior, Like, come on, these are you know
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Sutton Judy.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: I get it.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: There is thought process around. Somebody brought it up earlier,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: like certain on Judy they said this is a little
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: bit too deep in the weeds, but they said he
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: knows the hip moves from practice. I'm gonna know exactly
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: what way and really shut him down. That one's a
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: bit a bit out there, but he knows how he
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: moves his hips. So you know, I'm sure, he dreams
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: about it every night and then he just waited for
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: this one game and that's the moves that he remembers
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: the most. But I don't know, we'll have to have
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: to wait and see. But title, I'll stick with you.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Let's talk wide receiver here.
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: I was actually hoping you're going to hoop because it
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: sounded like he had some hot takes on this Bronco
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: stuff that I definitely don't, so could we switch it up?
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: And who talked me to? Some of these dudes?
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I like them all, you know that. I mean,
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: there's no hot takes.
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: And to me, this is like perfect when you look
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: at the price tags, you look at everything on the sleigh,
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: we're talking about leaving money on the table, probably like
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: big chunks of money on the table, Like this is
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: a spot I want to be And I love all
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: these guys on the Denver side. Sutton Veley, I'm just
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: gonna call it Vley. I don't know, I'm sure it's wrong.
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: Mims I'm good with and you guys know, I mean,
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: I finally get to say my guy his name, and
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: I'm not shamed. Will Jordan at we should start calling
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: him Big Jordan because he is. Actually he does look
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: pretty big out there, to be honest, but he looks
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: he looks bigger out there when you if your name's
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: Lil Jordan, right, like, I want to look at that
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: person be like, dude, yeah, this guy's little. It makes
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: sense like he's not necessarily little. He looks somewhat bigger.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: So Big Jordan we're calling him bj hit thirty two
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: hundred definitely in on him. You got Troy Franklin at
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: three K you got yeah. So there they mix in
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: a lot of different guys. So that's why I like
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: these bow Knicks teams. It's going to be easy. Not
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: easy to get like unique, but to get something a
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: little different. You can leave money on the table, have
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: five different wide receivers that you can potentially play, and
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: you know, all jokes aside. You know, Big Jordan Humphreys
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: the sort of play you want on the showed on slates.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: He gets looks down the field. I mean he gets looks.
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: He's gotten them all season. Unfortunately, the only one he's
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: converted this year cost our guy the live final seat
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: because he's every single one basically all year, all year round. God,
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: but he gets the looks down the field, so definitely
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: a guy that I want in those Knicks Captain's teams,
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: and then Cleveland. I mean, you know what you're getting
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: with with Jamis throwing the ball. I mean all these
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: guys upside Judy Moore and Thrash at one thousand flat.
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: I mean, Thrash is a guy though if you do
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: start building these teams, he's gonna start showing up pretty
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: often because of the savings at one k.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: So I am just in on all these guys. I
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: prefer these guys over the running backs.
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna be wide receiver over running back almost across
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: the board, with the exception of Jerome Ford, who.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: I really like.
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: I just I think all these guys are our clear
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: solid plays. No one you look at them like, oh,
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: this guy's like super overpriced or anything. I think they're
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: all appropriately priced playing all the all the wide receivers today.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, don't want to play a guy that you can
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: just drop a letter and call him trash in his name,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: because you can already see the posts on x and
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: in discords around the world about that. But just laughing
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: my ass off over here at some of these like reddits.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: I looked up little Jordan Humphrey. I was trying to
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: find some stuff out and it's his real name, first
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: of all, but then it's like one of the dumbest
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: names I've ever seen. Can you believe it? And another
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: person's like, contrary to what you may think, it's not.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: It's somewhat of a contradiction. At six four two and
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: twenty two pounds, he is not what most would call
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: him little.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: We got to call him big. Yeah, six four.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he got it. He doesn't deserve that. He does
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: not deserve big big.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: He got there for my guy, Frankie f J Born
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: in a big way that day. He took me out.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: But I will tell a quick little story about that
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: because I know frank You lot know him from the
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: DFS streets.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: F J.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Bourne. He's a really good dude. Man met a bunch
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: of finals and we were texting back and forth about it,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: and I said, you're a sick oh man, Like that
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: is so sick. He's like, just so you know, he goes,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: I feel bad, but I haven't made it to the
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: NFL Live finals for the last four years and he goes,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: and you know how much which I play in those qualifiers,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: So I don't feel as bad, and I said, no,
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: I hear that because it's expensive man, chasing those seats
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: and so you never know when your turn is gonna flip.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: But that makes it, you know, feel a little bit better.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: On the other side, he's been going through the same
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: bad beats and hits along the way, so it happens, right,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: It's part of the game. But back to these wide receivers,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: title over to you. We got the the hohopot takes
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: is that basically all we got out of him is
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: that little Jordan should be called big, but go ahead
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: not according to Ross, I do.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: Like this one.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I was about to say. It's in
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: the fants and uh yeah and tut fg Bourne. Yeah.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: I always love seeing his dopball.
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: I don't love seeing him lose money as down swing grass,
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: but yeah, is one of the few to actually.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Post transparent guy.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, to post that insane of the swings and stuff.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: So that's the GPP life for you.
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean Browns, it's I'm only going Judy
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: more thrash again.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: When Tilman went down, it was all thrash.
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: I'm not messing with any of those other guys, so
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: that's easy Procaco side. Definitely not easy, and yes I
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: mentioned a couple of times, but I am definitely on
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: the lookout for Josh Reynolds and if he's active today.
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: Not that I really necessarily want to play them, but
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: it would make me like all these dudes even less.
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: I'm unlike Hoop. I prefer the running backs over these
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: Broncos receivers. Now I have to play them because of
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: their price. They all will rotate, which is why I
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: don't like it a lot. I think i'd rank them
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: Franklin Lil Mims, and the reason for that is Mims
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: literally almost all of his targets are at the line
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: of scrippage and just like quick screens, and he has
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: to break it. He is explosive, but he also had
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: the least amount of snaps compared to him. It went
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: Sutting by far number one VLA two, which is why
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: I like him, But he's pricing his own tier. And
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: then it went Lil Jordan three, Franklin four, Mims five.
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna assume that continues, so I guess Franklin and
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: Humphrey are pretty close for me. It's just he's been
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: so bad outside of that one week and it's a
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: bit at this point. I can't say Lil Jordan, so
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: go Franklin, and I think he'll be a little lower owned.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: And yeah, I'm gonna maybe.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: Play a little okay, but you can't say well, but
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: you can say big no no.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Maybe if he wins me some cheese, I'll call him
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: big Men's.
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: I think if Reynolds is active, I feel like it
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: would hurt him most, but maybe not because a he's
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: only on the field like fifteen snaps a game anyway,
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: and some of them are like designed for him, so
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: maybe that would hurt little Jordan and Franklin Moore. Again,
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: it's a lot of guesswork. Hopefully he's not active. I
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: would like these guys a little more. But yeah, I
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: think we're gonna get to some of these tight ends
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: like Akins and Krol and stuff, and I'm gonna prefer them.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: I definitely prefer forward if.
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: I'm leaving under, kind of like when we're talking about.
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: The more we talk about, the more I am. I
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: think this game can play out on the ground a
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: bit kickers, I prefer, so Yeah, I'll be mixing them,
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: and I think MAXI one and I'm not in love
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: with it, and I'm gonna be underweight bow Knicks captain teams,
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: which I think, as who mentioned though, they are best
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: suited multiple of them when you are going bow Knicks
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: cap and so, yeah, I don't love it.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: I like brown stuff.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you on the brown side for sure.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say that right away. And then on
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: the other like this is the thing it's gonna be.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: You got Mims, Humphrey, Franklin all at the same price
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: pretty much give her take a couple hundred bucks, and
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: the thought of the Reynolds stuff coming back. So it's
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: like as Lee said in the chat, it just muddies
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: it up a bit more. It just makes it tricky.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: And you've still got Aikens who will get to in
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: a second, and you've got Krull who you mentioned on
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: this other side. And then also, like me, just comfortable
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: flipping the builds to have some of these mid range
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: captains or cheaper captains that you can get the Nixes
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: and Suttons of the world in the middle and leave
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: some money on the last receiver or something like that.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: So I don't know, I think it's gonna be tricky,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: but I feel like it's just gonna be straight up
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: for me. It's gonna be mostly Judy more Sutton, spin
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: the wheel on the Broncos side and probably try and
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: avoid the Browns backups and stuff like that. And I'm
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: kind of you know, the more the slate goes on,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: the more I see the chat, the more things get
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: talked about, I just start to like the builds that
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: will have like you know, money left over on the
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: table with the lower orange captain and try and play
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: it more straight up and maybe we see like a
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: seventeen fourteen type of game here or something like that,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: or someone twenty to fourteen or something along those lines
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: where I feel like I have a better chance getting
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: to it that way. And Sean called him out man
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: because Jordan Newan's came in. He said, he's I'm bigger there.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: You're bigger than six four. I don't know news. I
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: know you were hitting the gym and you were posting
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: those picks in the discord, but man, I don't know.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Six four to twenty two. That's a still a pretty
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: big boy man. So we'll have to see hoop anything else.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: Way in video who we need the way in video
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: from Jordan.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: Me and Title have been exchanging away in videos after
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: after our workout, so we got to get Jordan.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: We got to get a group chat with Jordan.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: So he came out of what do we got? Hoop
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: you were out busting the shirtless shoey. He has a
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: little bit of wasted.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, title saw that title saw it?
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: Any guests for who? How much you weis?
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: How much does whop way? I'll say one.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Money?
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: Any four dead on? I waived myself today one eighty
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: five point zero and what it is it?
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Six two six one? How tall are you?
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Six?
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: Six three six three?
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: Ring beans.
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: The way titles aass round titles trying to gain weight,
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: so Hoopster doesn't toss his ass around.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Listen, I'm I'm the shortest guy of the bunch. I
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: don't care. It's funny. I've been around who plenty of times.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: He the way he said six three means six two,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: But I just heard little Jordan was six four, so
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: I'm adding an inch to that thing. I'm six now,
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: he said. Just I'm getting up there. Uh, Title, what
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: were you in at? You're up to now? You're up
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: to one one seventy six I think was the video
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: picking it up steam boys titles.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: We putting it on.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Right six one six, So a couple of over there
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: you got breakdowns. Now, so I got, I got?
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: And what he he's talking to himself, what you got,
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: damn bogue.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Five nine on a good day. And what's my weight?
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: What's my weight at? Now?
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: You are.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: One sixty seven.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: No, you've been around me more than that.
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: I'm a bigger I'm bigger than that.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: Come on nice. It's trying to be nice.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: I like it says this, and he's like, oh, no,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: you look like you're thirty. No he knows she looks
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: forty two, but he called her thirty.
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: Just to be nice.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: No, that's all good. I appreciate. But I am down
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: right now. I'm at one eighty four right now, four
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: working it. We've been in the gym, we've been drinking
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: the waters like hoopster and eating right. So that's really
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: what it's all about. But we got our break in baby.
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: One eighty one point five point five.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: I had another one. I had one eighty six.
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: But then I start and I was gonna send it
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: to because I said, I I fluctuate, And the next
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: thing I said, one eighty four point two.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: I'm like, that's not what I wanted.
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: I get a new scale and nice. I think did
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: look nice.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: Though, five he says I'd put it on him. Though, Yeah,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: well we'll see about that.
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: He's bigger than a dude that's six.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: A bustling sounds like something Jordan's or Little.
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: Jordan's, big Jordan Newan's, they're both. Jordan's his whole picture.
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: He has some big arms in his picture.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: He got the all arms, but he's all arms.
• 44:22
  Speaker 6: Let's tighten the show back up. Let's tighten it up
• 44:25
  Speaker 6: with tight end and we'll move on with that segment. Hoop,
• 44:27
  Speaker 6: I'll go to you talked a little bit about njoku.
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: You know, title brought up Krawl on the other side.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Mayo's boy, my homie Mayo loves his little Lucas Krull.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: And then you got Aikens over on the other side
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: to trout Man. I mean, there's guys you can mention here,
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: but I think it's really gonna come down to in
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: joku and then what you do from there.
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: So go ahead, Hoop.
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: I knew, I knew Big Nads was gonna get so
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: excited about this conversation talking weight and muscle like man,
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: I can't wait to hear it. He has next He's
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: taking a shot at Jordan right out of the gate.
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: He's probably going for it.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: He's off the he's off the wagon right now. Anyway,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: he's in the discord every night. He got gummies and
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: wingstop and.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: And you name it.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: Man, we gotta get AIDS back on track here.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Man likely to go into.
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: AIDS in a different way class. But he's got muscle,
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: sound muscle. But like I said, and I tell him
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: every time, Coop will still toss his ass around, doesn't
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: matter how much muscle he has. Tight end is just
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: gonna be in Joku and Aikins. I'm not messing with
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: these other dudes, Like I want the wide receivers over
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: Kroll and Trout. Man, it seems like td or bus
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: type plays in Djoku Aikens way more volume. Aikins at
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: twenty four hundred, I think is really solid value, especially
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: if you think that the Broncos are playing from behind today.
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: So I'm in, I'm in Joku Aikins. I'm gonna be
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: off on the out of Denver guys most likely, and
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: if I do play, the Denver guys will be very
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: very small percentage just to make it all work.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Takedown said, he's the guy and his AI avatar there next,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: he's the guy, and you know we always got the receipt. Sean,
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: That's that's what it's all about, man, Just having some
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: fun with the crew. It's the best community going. Just
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: get in there. Check it out ship nation dot com.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Get into the community. There's a lot of fun in there.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: But Nate's always posting the food channel what's been going on,
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: and he's out with the lady having these like big
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: ass steaks and glasses of wine and everything.
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: Surfing that surfing turf he posted the other day. Yeah,
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: he's in the he's in the eats now. He's on
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: the eat side.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: He has been in the winner circle a lot lately too.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: So you know, you get that money coming in and
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: rolling through. Next thing. You know, you're spending on the goods.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: You're making yourself, you know, reward yourself a little bit.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: So you love to see it. Nids, keep crushing my
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: man title tight end for you. You mentioned you mentioned
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: the crawl stuff, So give me the Lucas crawl thoughts
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: and then take us from there.
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I will say Nate is probably a bench
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: hoop and I combined. He definitely got some pipes on
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: when he gets.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: My one of my favorite stories of Naids and this
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: will be quick and we can get right back on track,
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: is when we first started at Shiping Nation.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: It was very early on.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: We did it.
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: We're doing a team meeting and it was on zoom
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: and you know, send everyone the link, and you know,
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: it was one of the first meetings for sure.
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: And you know, Big Neds couldn't be interrupted at a
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: gym session. He's in there.
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: He's in there doing his trisep pull downs, he's doing
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: the curls, he's got the cutoff on just so every
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: windows that.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: He's got, you know, the big muscles and whatnot. But again,
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: you know, long story short and Aids, I'll still toss
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: your rest around.
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, little Jordan will toss big Maid's ass and little
• 47:30
  Speaker 5: Jordan around too, But tight end the thing is Lucas
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: Kral and Troutman and all them like, do I love it? No?
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: But I could see like Carl's ownership compared to litl
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: Jordan compared to them in all that. Again, these guys
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: aren't really owned too much either, But he's cheaper. These
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: guys might be on the field relatively the same, and
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: again game log has been so bad. I five percent,
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: maybe six percent. Just who else is in his range
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: down there you were comparing him to, I mean, really
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: nobody down there. The thrash thrash is deaf better play.
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: But if you go throw pivot thrash to krawl or troutman,
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: that's the way you can get way, way different. It's
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: a really hard to make a case outside of like,
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: these guys are good, they get targets. Not really, they're
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: on the field and you need check downs. Brown side though,
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: I think Aikens is a great play, and so is
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: the Joku. Like they love Aikins. What was the snapch
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: last week? Didn't he fall in the box? If I'm
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: not mistaken on the showdown forty one percent? He had
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: a couple of goal line catches or got him down
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: there for a chubb.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: But maybe it was just that they use them.
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: He can high point the ball, He's athletic, He's right
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: in the range of little Jordan Franklin names all of them.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: I do like Aikens more than the rest of them,
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: so and I'll be playing.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: The joking Yeah, I like the call to the thrash
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: one like similar price point of your lineup. It's gonna
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: probably gonna make sense either way, just to roll it
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: to a guy like Krawl. And again, the reason I
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: like it, and that stood out to me, why I
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: want to get your take is because again I think,
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: for some of my builds where I'm building for the
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: lower score, what if it is just like two catches
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: and one of them for a touchdown. We haven't needed
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: that lot this season, but it's because we've also had
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: more score in these games, right, and we've had the
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: ability for these guys just to get there. So that
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: could definitely be a thing. Takedown. You always post the
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: receipts right in the NFL channel tag the boys up.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: We'll verify and let the people know if it's accurate
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: or if you're just you know, playing a guy a character,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: an AI character. But I believe you. I'll put it
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: on record. I believe you take down, So you throw
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: your receipts in there, we'll check them out. I got
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: nothing else to add it, tight end. I like the
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: Akins call twenty four undred and just made me think
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: two title when you said it, like if you have
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: Thrash and someone between Franklin Mims, Lil Jordan something like that,
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: and you flip it. You can have Aikins and crawl
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: and it's two tight ends. But it's a Again, It's
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: just you don't know for sure that these wide receivers
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: are gonna get there just because there's some injuries and
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: they're cheaper. It's these other guys could get there just
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: as well, So I certainly think that would be my
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: thought process on it. Anyway, Hoopster Kickers and D's, Man,
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: your favorite Kickers and D's. We got some good ones tonight, right, Yeah.
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I do think it's a situation though,
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: where the Broncos get get inflated again. I mean fifty
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: four hundred, they're favored by like six at home. You know,
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: Jamis is gonna throw the ball all over the place,
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: so there's opportunity for turnovers. And I think people do
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: realize that we're showing twenty one. I think it's going
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: to be closer to thirty. And the last show we
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: did it was you know, everything was shown thirty. We
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: thought it would get closer to forty, and I think
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: that was the case. So I'm guessing closer to thirty
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: for the Broncos. I'm gonna play them. I'm not gonna
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: fade them, but again, I won't be anywhere close to
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: what they actually come in at Browns. Yeah, if I
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: get some, I get some kickers. Watts Hopkins definitely prefer lots.
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: But the one thing is, you know this isn't altitude,
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: so there is some opportunity for some longer kicks. Do
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: you want to pull up and see how the boys
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: have been doing here. Let's was five for five last game,
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: so they're willing to take some kicks. Eighteen thirteen, sixteen,
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: so he's been thirteen or better four times this season,
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: So that's definitely something I'm interested in Hopkins. It's always
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: gonna be a little less interest in the road team.
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: Barely not anything for Hopkins this season. So he's got
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: a twelve, twelve and a thirteen, but he's had some
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: real stinkers along the way. They're gonna be if they're down,
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: they're gonna be aggressive. They'll be aggressive with Jamis, so
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: much prefer what's over Hopkins. The ownership difference we're showing
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: got Hopkins at fourteen, so we're showing like a five
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: or six percent ownership difference. I still like that's a
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: lot more than Hopkins. I'll get some Denver defense, probably
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: not as much as the field, and then you know,
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: whatever I get on the Browns defense, which I hope
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: is not a lot, I'll just roll with that.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and leaving some of that stuff behind almost goes
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: in with your Nick Chubb stuff earlier, like, yeah, it's
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: not like he's crazy home, but if he's thirty in
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: the flex and you're, you know, not as high on
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: Hopkins who's fifteen in the flex and Browns d just
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: gets played because people play it. And funny enough, the
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: other thing is like a Hopkins and Chubb probably won't
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: get jammed together as often because in most cases it's
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: gonna be like if the running back's doing the work,
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: they're not kicking all. So you could be alleviating yourself
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: from just a lot of situations you're not interested in
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: by doing that hoop. So I like that call out there, Lutz.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: For sure, I have interest Broncos I hate when they
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: get to because I think you're right and they're gonna
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: get to like thirty. That's why I said earlier, if
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: they're like thirty in flex but one or two in Captain.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: That's when I like those builds in my sets, just
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: to have some of those where I'm like, it's almost
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: like the Chubb thing the other way. Instead of just
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: wasting it in flex with everybody else, I'm trying to
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: get it up top.
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: Well, not a p break, but I'll be right back.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: All good title your thoughts Kicker and D agreement with who.
• 52:35
  Speaker 5: Mainly I prefer Broncos stuff both kickers defenses over brown stuff,
• 52:40
  Speaker 5: but little stuff like if I'm handbuilding. I don't love
• 52:43
  Speaker 5: like the Nick Chubb Broncos pairing as much as I
• 52:46
  Speaker 5: like Jamis Broncos pairing because when Broncos D fully gets there,
• 52:50
  Speaker 5: Jamis is slinging at almost every play They're playing from
• 52:52
  Speaker 5: behind close games, when they mix in the run more,
• 52:55
  Speaker 5: it does limit Broncos.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: Upside a little bit. You want them to pin their
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: ears back, So that was a little.
• 53:00
  Speaker 5: Thing I thought of, and then just broad slate like
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: both kickers are kickers are going to get some ownership.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: Broncos D definitely will.
• 53:08
  Speaker 5: And when you look at pricing, who's in the in
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: between all them, it's the running beats, it's Ford, It's
• 53:13
  Speaker 5: estimate it's McLoughlin, Like, that's a tier right.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: There that I like.
• 53:17
  Speaker 5: If one of those, if you like estimate McLoughlin, Ford
• 53:20
  Speaker 5: will get a little more ownership. That looks like where
• 53:22
  Speaker 5: you can get different drop louts down to one of them,
• 53:24
  Speaker 5: drop Broncos D down to one of them, save some money,
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: you give up some projection. If that tells a game
• 53:30
  Speaker 5: script though that was Ford estimated McLoughlin. Looks like they
• 53:34
  Speaker 5: have to be relatively low owned and as a pivot.
• 53:38
  Speaker 5: So that's really all I got. I prefer Broncos stuff though,
• 53:40
  Speaker 5: LUTs and deef.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, don't forget that what you just said. The good
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: point there that I thought was really solid was don't
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: forget about playing Jamis at captain with the Broncos D
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: in the flex. That's the that's the one We've seen
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: it work out with other quarterbacks. It can definitely work
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: out with Jamis. I mean, that's the perfect spot. It's
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: not saying it's sneaky as much as just not forgetting it. Like,
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: that's certainly a thing that you can do to I
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: don't have too much else to add. I agree sort
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: of with what Hoop was saying. And then I think
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: also too. Just like I said, the only difference for
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: me is I mentioned earlier at Captain, I'll have some
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: builds that just flip it a little bit that way.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: Hoop is back. We'll get him to do the FanDuel segment.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: They said, did you have to go piss again? Or
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: was someone on your lawn?
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: No?
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: This is someone Yeah, so it is again. It's gonna
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: be a quick story about the lawn. So they remove
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: that tree in the front yard and it leaves like
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: a huge mound obviously in the front yard. So they're
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: here to remove the huge model and the problem is
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: the neighbor park right in the street right in front
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: of it. Man, I'd be tragedy if they can't get
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: this big mile.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: Uch.
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: She's moving her car. Yes, all right, we're good to go.
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: We're back on track. That's huge, huge, huge, huge, all right,
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: FanDuel pulling it up. Actually, is that where we're at, FanDuel?
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Fandel's good.
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: So the pricing is actually not super soft. I mean
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: bo Nick's sixteen to five, Jameis Winston fifteen, K Sutton fourteen, K,
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: Chubb thirteen, and joke O twelve. So considering what we're
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: see on some of these other slides. It's actually not
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: that bad in terms of the pricing. You know, Nix
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: is going to be very popular imagine up top, and
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: then I assume Jamis will be right behind him with
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: you know, the two quarterbacks that people want to play.
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: Something at fourteen K won't be as popular, but you
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: could kind of go a little you know, reversal.
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: I think you nailed it a few.
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: It was like on that RAM slate where you said,
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: you know, you kind of want those pass catchers at
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: top because no one plays them, and it worked out.
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: I think it ended up being Puka that you needed
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: off top.
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: So something's gonna be popular on DK, but probably not
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: as popular on FanDuel because of the price, the way
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: it's set up, and you know, people playing those quarterbacks.
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: I think he's somewhat interesting in that situation. You know,
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: Judy eleven k, more ten k, you know, the the
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: Nick Chubb stuff. I'm just probably gonna stick with it
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: on FanDuel. I would be more prone to play them
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: on FanDuel over DK at thirteen thousand flat, but I
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: still will be probably under on him in terms of
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: like cheap plays to your own floored at eight K.
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: I think he's very solid. Uh Broncos defense ninety five hundred,
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: they'll get some ownership aken seven k flat, I think
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: he's a really solid play. And I mean, I'm you know,
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: I have to obviously mention this our guy a little
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: Jordan all the way down at at six five.
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: Big Jordan's six.
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: ' five, like definitely in there thrash five five. So
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: we have a lot of cheap options here that are
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: in play. So but I'll say pricing, you know, I
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: think much better on FanDuel than on DK.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what about this title like Ford with Denver defense
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: as well? I think it's fine, right, Like he's just
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: gonna be a checkdown guy and then yeah, you already
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: had it there you go.
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I think that man on the YouTube.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: Chat, Yeah, so I was gonna bring that up. But
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: our current ownership just of note two does show that
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: Sutton's gonna still get the ownership and not Winston. But again,
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: this is the first run. We'll see how it actually
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: updates later. I think people still like to play the
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks no matter what to to hoops point, They're not
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: gonna feel good about Chubb. Yeah, not going to be
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: interested in the Denver running back, so I think like
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: it'd be you know, Sutton, Javonte, Jamis Winston, like I'm
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: fan to all those guys, I'd be fine with and
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: just moving it around that way. And if you want
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: to get Sutton up top there, I think if his
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: comes down and Winston goes up, you might find a
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: little balance in the middle. So another thing I've noticed
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: is doing a more of a deep dive, so I
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: don't just always have to say it sucks over there
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: is There has been more like sixty two K chops
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: and stuff lately. When I dig into it, it's it's
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: just lineups that make perfect sense, but leave like seven
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: grand on the table that right.
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: Massive amounts of money on the table, Like the guy
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: last night I think Solo shipped, and I don't know
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: exactly what it was, but he left a ton of
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: money played like Ray Davis played, Uh, I can't remember who, Yeah, yeah,
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: And then it was all like cheap dudes after that,
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: and then I think it's Solo shipped, which.
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: But it was like yeah, but it like last night,
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: I guess because it an injury slay, But even the
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: other one the other night, it was sixty two k
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: or something was all five guys that people were playing like.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: There was no like sneaky like diamond in the rough play,
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: but it was like it was a wide receiver captain
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: with a quarderback with another pass catcher on the team,
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: and then the other side had like a quarterback and
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: wide receiver four. And that's what left the money. Clearly
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: they instead of wide receiver four, They could have went
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: all the way up to wide receiver one, but they
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: just left the seventy five hundred on the table. So
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: the lineup made perfect sense if one person beats one
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: person and the rest of the night goes that way.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: And I know it's not easy to pinpoint it. I'm
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: just saying it looks like there's a lot of opportunity
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: for that. I think people with the pricing, even when
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: it's not soft like tonight, I agree with you, Hoop,
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: it's not super soft, but it's still easy to get
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: to a lineup that makes sense, right, Like you can
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: easily just fill your your money out and use it all.
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: I'm just reading these comments back about someone walker, it's
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: actually pretty true. It is someone fucking with my lawn. Essentially,
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: long story short, and we got to protect that shit.
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: So that's that's true, But I think that is the key.
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: Like when you build the if you're anywhere close to
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: the sixty thousand, uh, you're gonna be splitting in a big,
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: big way. You have to leave like massive chunks. And
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: it's not five hundred or a thousand. Like you gotta
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: leave a lot of money on the table on fandul because,
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: like you said, it's lineups that makes sense, but no
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: one's getting there because when you build, you're never just
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: gonna be able to push yourself to leave that much
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: on the table.
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: So I do I agree. I think there's opportunities on FanDuel.
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: The format is not ideal, but like it's clear people
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: that that solo ship or really limit the number of
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: duplications leave massive amounts on the table.
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which I And honestly, if that's the best part.
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: If you're playing one lineup and you just throw the
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: one in over there, it's perfect. Set it up to
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: make sense and leave money on the table. You're giving
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: yourself a better chance if you're still telling a story
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: and it makes sense to you, that's definitely the way
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: to play it. Then just to throw it in to
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: hit the winner and chop it up for seven hundred
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: bucks or a thousand bucks or whatever that might be. Title.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: Any extra thoughts from you or final thoughts on this
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: slate before we get out of here.
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: No, Yeah, you guys covered it well, And like I
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: could see bon Nicks.
• 59:50
  Speaker 5: It's hard fandom doesn't have historical data, which makes like
• 59:53
  Speaker 5: reverse engineering ownership harder. But like I could see bon
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: Nicks being fifty five percent today, Jamis being twenty five.
• 59:59
  Speaker 5: You play anyone but those two, you can get different
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: that way and then leaving money. Why can't Jerome Forward
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 5: outscore Nick Chubb today? And there's five k in the
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 5: game script? Why can't thrash outscore Elijah Moore? Like doesn't
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 5: happen often. No, but a wide receiver three or wide
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 5: receiver one, and the guy that's whole shift yesterday, he
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 5: can lose for years straight and still be in the green.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: When you win, how much do you win? So that's
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: all I got.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 5: It looks like also fan duel, the running backs will
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 5: be a little lower owned, just like DraftKings.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm excited for the slide. I think do
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: think it is a pretty good one.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that call too, this is the one
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: we tried to get to ten k on one K videos.
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• 1:00:54
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• 1:01:00
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• 1:01:01
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• 1:01:03
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• 1:01:04
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