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- 0:46Speaker 1: Now the Monday Morning Quarterback with Mike hom Grin and
- 0:49Speaker 1: Hugh Millin.
- 0:50Speaker 2: Here's Chuck and Buck.
- 0:54Speaker 3: Welcome back to the chuck'm buck in the Morning Show.
- 0:56Speaker 3: It is the time that everybody has been waiting for.
- 1:00Speaker 3: It is the time when we get to talk to
- 1:02Speaker 3: the one and only Hugh breedlove one. You know that
- 1:05Speaker 3: your middle name is coming up whenever I'm the one
- 1:07Speaker 3: driving the bus, right all good.
- 1:09Speaker 4: It's all good.
- 1:10Speaker 3: It's the coolest middle name in the history of middle names.
- 1:14Speaker 2: I'm not kidding. I don't know about that.
- 1:17Speaker 4: I didn't like it as a kid, but but it's
- 1:19Speaker 4: my uh my grandma on my dad's side, Grandma Grandma
- 1:24Speaker 4: Grandma Jean was a breed Love. So yeah, but pull
- 1:27Speaker 4: family name. It's a great cool It almost sounds like
- 1:30Speaker 4: a native it does you know a Native American?
- 1:33Speaker 2: Yes, breed Love sitting Cloud. Yeah, yeah, I could. I
- 1:39Speaker 2: could see that. I could be with you guys.
- 1:40Speaker 3: Good, good to have you, brother. I obviously, uh Seahawks
- 1:46Speaker 3: end up pulling out the w right. Any any win
- 1:49Speaker 3: in the NFL is is something that you just say,
- 1:51Speaker 3: all right, we'll chalk that one up. And yet it
- 1:54Speaker 3: was different than what you don't make predictions and give scores,
- 1:58Speaker 3: and understandably so because it's I don't think anybody really
- 2:01Speaker 3: knows what the heck they're talking about when we do that.
- 2:03Speaker 3: And yet I didn't think it was going to end
- 2:05Speaker 3: up being as close. General thoughts that you got that
- 2:08Speaker 3: you took away from it, considering you went against what
- 2:13Speaker 3: is now one in ten team and you came it
- 2:15Speaker 3: came down to whether or not they're getting an on
- 2:17Speaker 3: side kick and you maybe start sweating it a little
- 2:19Speaker 3: bit overall.
- 2:20Speaker 4: Tops well, I think you touched on it. I think
- 2:23Speaker 4: that you get a win on the road in the NFL,
- 2:26Speaker 4: you stay healthy. You know, think of on a golf
- 2:29Speaker 4: on a score court, there's an index for every hole,
- 2:32Speaker 4: the handicap on the hole, right, and and and so
- 2:36Speaker 4: you look on a seventeen game schedule, this these Titans,
- 2:39Speaker 4: this was.
- 2:40Speaker 2: The easiest hole.
- 2:41Speaker 4: This is a short par four with a wide fair
- 2:43Speaker 4: way and a really relatively accessible green. Right, and now
- 2:49Speaker 4: the difference breaks down. You say, well, I would expect,
- 2:51Speaker 4: you know, try and birdy that. But you know, in
- 2:54Speaker 4: football it's you know, it's like par or not par,
- 2:57Speaker 4: win or not win, right, So you get your par.
- 3:01Speaker 4: What if you like to maybe played the whole little better? Fine,
- 3:05Speaker 4: but you know, I think it's real a couple things
- 3:09Speaker 4: for me. That was a really emotional game last week
- 3:13Speaker 4: against the Rams. So now you're you're flying across the country.
- 3:17Speaker 4: The Seahawks have been great, going to three time zones,
- 3:20Speaker 4: playing at ten am.
- 3:23Speaker 5: There.
- 3:23Speaker 4: Their inability to you know, to step on the throat
- 3:29Speaker 4: of inferior teams has not been a problem. Think of
- 3:32Speaker 4: the nor NaNs games, think of Jacksonville, think of Arizona.
- 3:36Speaker 4: You know they they have been about as good as
- 3:39Speaker 4: anybody in that regard. So if if I told you
- 3:42Speaker 4: before the season, the Seahawks are going to win all
- 3:44Speaker 4: their games against the poor teams, but one of them,
- 3:49Speaker 4: you know, you're going to get a late touchdown less
- 3:51Speaker 4: than a minute. I don't know, did they backdoor cover?
- 3:54Speaker 4: What was the spread? I sah, yeah, it was like
- 3:56Speaker 4: thirteen and a half, right, okay, so so they backed
- 4:00Speaker 4: or cover under a minute? You know, I I just
- 4:04Speaker 4: don't think it's a problem. I think that uh what
- 4:08Speaker 4: if it would you you like to be a little better? Yeah,
- 4:11Speaker 4: But I don't think it. I don't think it's one
- 4:14Speaker 4: of those things where you say, this is really a
- 4:19Speaker 4: phenomenal job of keeping your your throttle down, and so
- 4:25Speaker 4: it's they're worthy of praise. I don't think they're worthy
- 4:28Speaker 4: of criticism. I just think it's kind of one of
- 4:32Speaker 4: those It wasn't the best job, but it was, Uh,
- 4:36Speaker 4: it was sufficient. And in the NFL, you just pick
- 4:39Speaker 4: up your ball and you go to the next hole.
- 4:41Speaker 2: Yep, No, I'm with you. I'm not one.
- 4:43Speaker 3: I mean, you got to give credit where credit's due.
- 4:45Speaker 3: It still is an NFL team. It's not like they
- 4:46Speaker 3: were playing you know, wasn't u c l A No
- 4:49Speaker 3: exactly exactly.
- 4:51Speaker 4: The NFL equivalent of the Bruins.
- 4:52Speaker 3: Man that was that was that was ugly. We'll get
- 4:55Speaker 3: into that maybe a little bit later as well, Hugh.
- 4:57Speaker 3: I mean to me, if there was a an amount
- 5:01Speaker 3: of criticism that I would give, it would pretty much
- 5:03Speaker 3: go up to and stop at. There's a recipe that
- 5:07Speaker 3: you try to come up with, right all week you're
- 5:09Speaker 3: thinking about it, what do we need to do to
- 5:11Speaker 3: beat this team? The recipe that they had I don't
- 5:16Speaker 3: feel would probably beat a superior team. Let's just go
- 5:21Speaker 3: back a week against you know, Matthew Stafford. If you
- 5:24Speaker 3: allow an opponent to go six for seventeen and third down,
- 5:28Speaker 3: which isn't horrible, but five for seven or four for seven,
- 5:33Speaker 3: I keep mixing that. I believe it was five for
- 5:34Speaker 3: seven on fourth down. You're probably not going to win
- 5:37Speaker 3: that game. Now, again, you don't get to fourth downs
- 5:40Speaker 3: unless you're They're not going to go for it seven
- 5:43Speaker 3: times unless you're ahead by multiple scores, and so it
- 5:46Speaker 3: kind of plays into that. So just reading the whole thing.
- 5:49Speaker 3: It just felt like, okay, if you get if you
- 5:52Speaker 3: jump out to a lead, then I want you to
- 5:54Speaker 3: put somebody away. And yet that's not it's not necessarily
- 5:59Speaker 3: something that needs to be overly criticized, like you're saying, right.
- 6:01Speaker 4: I know you're yeah, you're up by two touchdowns with
- 6:04Speaker 4: forty seven seconds to go in the game. One of
- 6:06Speaker 4: them was a ninety yard punt return. So the defense
- 6:12Speaker 4: until forty seven seconds to go had yielded ten points.
- 6:16Speaker 4: And you know, look they backed off the gas more
- 6:19Speaker 4: than they had in those other games that I mentioned.
- 6:21Speaker 4: So so yeah, you know, there's also some guys that
- 6:26Speaker 4: were playing that that are not you know, Ernest Jones
- 6:32Speaker 4: wasn't playing that. That's a big factor. So some of
- 6:35Speaker 4: the mistackles we saw. We saw some really good play
- 6:40Speaker 4: by by Patrick O'Connell when he was playing in a
- 6:44Speaker 4: phone booth, but when he had to play out in space,
- 6:46Speaker 4: he showed some of his his limitations. Although I thought
- 6:49Speaker 4: he played a pretty gay game. You know, when when
- 6:51Speaker 4: it was up, when you're up thirty to ten, okay,
- 6:55Speaker 4: they hit you for a post on a post wheel
- 6:57Speaker 4: concept up the right sideline. Well, the flat defender he
- 7:04Speaker 4: has what's called CFW, a curl flat wheel in that
- 7:06Speaker 4: in that coverage, well, you have him to the flat
- 7:09Speaker 4: and what's the W part of that wheel? You got
- 7:11Speaker 4: to take him up the sideline. Well that was in
- 7:13Speaker 4: a zone blitz with boy Mafey off in the flat.
- 7:17Speaker 4: He's not going to cover a wheel. So you know
- 7:19Speaker 4: that the good on them. They they hit you on
- 7:21Speaker 4: that time. Third and and and then there was a
- 7:25Speaker 4: time where they played Cover two and I mean I
- 7:28Speaker 4: had to watch it like four times. I'm like, wait
- 7:30Speaker 4: a minute, that's a two deep five under the middle
- 7:32Speaker 4: guy that's that's what you call him the Michael linebacker.
- 7:35Speaker 4: That was Josh Joeb Like, what the hell is I
- 7:38Speaker 4: haven't seen Josh Joe play the the hook zone in
- 7:42Speaker 4: cover two the entire season. Uh, you know there's a scramble.
- 7:46Speaker 4: And by the way, cam Ward, I've studied this guy
- 7:48Speaker 4: a long time. My son started against him twice in college,
- 7:53Speaker 4: so I've seen him live a lot. He played for
- 7:55Speaker 4: the Cougars. I studied a ton of them in Miami.
- 7:58Speaker 4: The thirty third team asked me to present him a
- 8:02Speaker 4: few weeks back. I've watched a ton of cam Ward.
- 8:06Speaker 4: That guy he doesn't have elite athleticism. He has very
- 8:09Speaker 4: good athleticism, but he has I would say borderline elite
- 8:13Speaker 4: feel in the pocket. Now, sometimes he's late and he
- 8:17Speaker 4: doesn't have elite anticipation by quarterback standards, but when he
- 8:21Speaker 4: starts playing that that off script game, you know, I mean,
- 8:26Speaker 4: his his ability to feel open spots in the pocket
- 8:31Speaker 4: is his next level. And he didn't have a great
- 8:34Speaker 4: team around him, but but he kind of burned the
- 8:36Speaker 4: Seahawks I thought. I thought that was a big factor.
- 8:39Speaker 4: A number of times, his his kind of instincts in
- 8:42Speaker 4: the pocket was tough to defend. I mean, there was
- 8:45Speaker 4: a time where he uh he he scrambles forward on
- 8:50Speaker 4: his own coverage and and and that was the one
- 8:55Speaker 4: with Josh Job over the middle, and and he does
- 8:58Speaker 4: a no look pass on third and five. I'm like, what,
- 9:01Speaker 4: I mean, who's doing no look passes other than Patrick Mahomes.
- 9:05Speaker 4: And and then and then there's an intensity. I mean,
- 9:08Speaker 4: he has a scramble touchdown and you look at guys
- 9:13Speaker 4: were playing so tall and just kind of catching blocks.
- 9:17Speaker 4: You would almost think the whistle blew and the Seahawks
- 9:20Speaker 4: just stopped playing. There was just a noted lack of intensity.
- 9:25Speaker 4: But the score was thirty to ten, and uh, you
- 9:28Speaker 4: know Patrick O'Connell missed. You know, he's he's not in there.
- 9:31Speaker 4: And then twenty three. I always want to call him,
- 9:36Speaker 4: it's de Anthony Bell. So they had guys in there
- 9:39Speaker 4: that are hardly ever in there. Those guys were the
- 9:42Speaker 4: ones at the point of attack. So I think I
- 9:44Speaker 4: just think it was a lot of different factors. I
- 9:50Speaker 4: don't expect it to carry over. And I'll tell you
- 9:51Speaker 4: what I bet you Mike McDonald on that plane was
- 9:55Speaker 4: driving back or driving back, flying back and saying that's
- 10:00Speaker 4: perfect because we won the game. We stayed healthy as
- 10:06Speaker 4: far as I know, we don't have any additional injuries.
- 10:09Speaker 4: And yet we got some lessons. We can talk about focus,
- 10:12Speaker 4: we can talk about breakdowns and in ways that you
- 10:15Speaker 4: couldn't in some of you know, the Commanders, the Jaguars,
- 10:19Speaker 4: the Cardinals, the Saints, all of those total blowouts, it's
- 10:23Speaker 4: harder to get the team's attention about, hey, this is
- 10:26Speaker 4: a breakdown here. We got to fix this. And so
- 10:28Speaker 4: they'll be able to point to some things and be
- 10:30Speaker 4: able to fix them.
- 10:31Speaker 3: Right, well, what would need to be fixed when it
- 10:35Speaker 3: comes to our quarterback. I mean Sam Darnold good game,
- 10:37Speaker 3: decent game, two touchdowns, no picks. It wasn't There was
- 10:41Speaker 3: a couple balls that probably could have went the other direction.
- 10:45Speaker 3: But coming off of this game that he had last
- 10:47Speaker 3: week and all of the stuff that came down after that,
- 10:50Speaker 3: people were, you know, second guessing this, that and the other.
- 10:53Speaker 2: How he rebound to you, I thought he looked real good.
- 10:57Speaker 4: I think, you know, they're not to say he didn't
- 10:59Speaker 4: have any minuses on his sheet, but but he cranked
- 11:02Speaker 4: up the big plays. He was productive. He you know,
- 11:05Speaker 4: he navigated the pocket. I mean, I know we're gonna
- 11:09Speaker 4: be talking about those JSN touchdowns here in a minute
- 11:11Speaker 4: and some of his progress. But but his uh, his
- 11:16Speaker 4: his reads were for the most part good. I think
- 11:18Speaker 4: there was a couple of times, you know, he had
- 11:21Speaker 4: he threw that out route down in the red zone
- 11:24Speaker 4: off to his left. The js N was a little
- 11:26Speaker 4: too high for him. Uh that was a press coverage
- 11:29Speaker 4: what's called oki route. That's that's kind of hard against
- 11:32Speaker 4: press coverage. Had he worked the combination on the front side,
- 11:37Speaker 4: he had Cooper cup wide open. Uh, might have been
- 11:42Speaker 4: a walk in touchdown on a little choice route where
- 11:44Speaker 4: he broke inside. So I think his recognition on on
- 11:50Speaker 4: that and and a couple other plays where he you know,
- 11:54Speaker 4: I think he predetermined some routes. It looked like he
- 11:59Speaker 4: pre determined to throw to Rashid Chihat on that post
- 12:03Speaker 4: where he got hit. So I would I would, I
- 12:06Speaker 4: would dig him for his pocket awareness in the pre
- 12:09Speaker 4: UH determination. But I think they're still working on Resid
- 12:12Speaker 4: Shaheed and trying to get him because when when they
- 12:16Speaker 4: were acquired Rashid Shaheed, it felt to me like, Okay,
- 12:21Speaker 4: that's just kind of a luxury acquisition. I don't quite
- 12:25Speaker 4: feel that way now. I feel like it's a little
- 12:28Speaker 4: bit more of a necessity with UH, with Tory Horton's injury,
- 12:33Speaker 4: and and while Cooper Cup has been a great addition
- 12:37Speaker 4: in terms of in the building and how he's impacted others,
- 12:41Speaker 4: notably JSN and and everybody, so I think it's almost
- 12:45Speaker 4: like you acquired a coach, but it has not been
- 12:48Speaker 4: productive on the field.
- 12:49Speaker 2: So I think that.
- 12:50Speaker 4: Rashid Shaheed was more of a necessity. That's my opinion today,
- 12:55Speaker 4: more so than it was on November fourth when he
- 12:57Speaker 4: was acquired. And and and so they're still trying to
- 13:01Speaker 4: work like they had a wrap route where they had
- 13:03Speaker 4: a j barner kind of sit and try and hold
- 13:06Speaker 4: the cheese for the linebacker and then you're gonna he's
- 13:10Speaker 4: at the short level barner, and then you're gonna get
- 13:11Speaker 4: an inbreaking route with Shaheed coming in behind it. Well,
- 13:16Speaker 4: Sam Donald reads there's a Initially at the snap of
- 13:21Speaker 4: the ball, he sees a safety to his left. Okay,
- 13:24Speaker 4: this'll be Sam Donald. We're in shotgun. We see the say, okay,
- 13:28Speaker 4: safety's over the apparently over the top of of Jackson
- 13:32Speaker 4: Smith and Jigba to double him over the top. But
- 13:35Speaker 4: we have to confirm that on post snap and then
- 13:39Speaker 4: and then now post snap, the safety comes down to
- 13:43Speaker 4: play in what's called the hook zone. So think of
- 13:45Speaker 4: in this defense it was' I've referenced it to now baseball,
- 13:50Speaker 4: infeld and outfield. So imagine the guy, the guy who's
- 13:54Speaker 4: ultimately going to be in the shortstop position that's the
- 13:57Speaker 4: hook zone defense on the left, but he starts kind
- 13:59Speaker 4: of left center. Got me sore. Pre snap, he's in
- 14:03Speaker 4: left center. Now he drops down and he's he's your shortstop.
- 14:07Speaker 4: Well Donald sees that and he wants to hold him
- 14:11Speaker 4: up because the uh to carry out the analogy, Rashi
- 14:14Speaker 4: chi hed Is is going over the top of this
- 14:17Speaker 4: end behind the second baseman, going right over the middle
- 14:20Speaker 4: of the field, right over the top of second base.
- 14:22Speaker 4: But you gotta worry about the shortstop coming over who
- 14:24Speaker 4: came down from left center. So Donald sees the coverage,
- 14:27Speaker 4: he's trying to hold him up, but Rashid chih he doesn't.
- 14:30Speaker 4: He's flying like a bat out of hell into the
- 14:32Speaker 4: next window and and in zone. That's Those are the
- 14:35Speaker 4: type of things where where you see JSN just intuitively,
- 14:39Speaker 4: he just knows. He's just like I know exactly how
- 14:42Speaker 4: to be quarterback friendly. I'm gonna turn my full numbers.
- 14:45Speaker 4: My quarterback wants to see my front number, my front
- 14:48Speaker 4: jersey number, as opposed to my side jersey number, which
- 14:53Speaker 4: he would see if I was screaming through. And so
- 14:55Speaker 4: I'm gonna show him my front numbers that I'm idling
- 14:57Speaker 4: down in boom and then you get an easy completion.
- 15:00Speaker 4: But for them to have missed on that play, Eliza
- 15:06Speaker 4: Royo man, I had done my homework last week about
- 15:10Speaker 4: all the second round tight ends, where the hell is
- 15:12Speaker 4: the list? But you're getting nothing out of Eliza Royo
- 15:18Speaker 4: so you know, there's some things I would have liked
- 15:20Speaker 4: to have worked on for Sam Darnold, But so I
- 15:24Speaker 4: think those are still a work in progress, and hopefully
- 15:27Speaker 4: before you tee up the RAMS on December eighteenth, you
- 15:30Speaker 4: can still develop these things.
- 15:32Speaker 3: Right, and there is time for that. I mean, we're
- 15:33Speaker 3: getting close to it. But I do want to ask
- 15:35Speaker 3: one thing. When you're talking about being familiar, right, you
- 15:38Speaker 3: were talking about Rashid Jaheed and they're trying to figure
- 15:41Speaker 3: that out.
- 15:42Speaker 2: I think Arroyo might fall into that same category. Right.
- 15:44Speaker 3: He was just drafted and he had training camp versus
- 15:47Speaker 3: you see the picture before training camp where Jackson Smith
- 15:51Speaker 3: and Jigbu and Cooper Cup and aj Barner and it
- 15:55Speaker 3: wasn't I ain't know Barnell was there too, where they're
- 15:57Speaker 3: all getting balls thrown to them by Sam. So how
- 16:01Speaker 3: I mean, we don't have much time, but how how
- 16:03Speaker 3: easy is it to acquire that familiarity?
- 16:06Speaker 4: Uh? It takes a while, the precisions in the details.
- 16:10Speaker 4: Some guys are easier to read. There's more of a
- 16:13Speaker 4: cohesion early on with guys, there's a mesh. Obviously, Sam
- 16:16Speaker 4: Darlng came in and he could just read JSN like
- 16:20Speaker 4: like Braille right, others guys, it takes longer Rashichi, he
- 16:24Speaker 4: doesn't is not as instinctive. But uh, and here's my
- 16:27Speaker 4: list of my kind of my beef. Now, Uh, the
- 16:31Speaker 4: way I works sometimes, you know, I have I have
- 16:34Speaker 4: kind of a theme. Maybe I'm gonna take the kg
- 16:36Speaker 4: A radio oka I'm gonna get I'm gonna give you
- 16:38Speaker 4: Bucky a window into my thoughts. And I say, wait
- 16:41Speaker 4: a minute, I've watched some tape I've got. I got
- 16:43Speaker 4: a little hunch, I got a little feeling in my gut.
- 16:46Speaker 4: Let me see if I can find some facts to
- 16:49Speaker 4: kind of support my my hypothesis. And and then I
- 16:53Speaker 4: come and usually if I can find those facts, I
- 16:55Speaker 4: come in you know, blazon on that take right candidly,
- 17:01Speaker 4: my my, the facts didn't support my hypothesis as much
- 17:05Speaker 4: as I had thought it does to some degree. And
- 17:07Speaker 4: here's what I thought. I looked at Eliza Royo coming
- 17:10Speaker 4: into He's on the pace for twenty coming into this week.
- 17:14Speaker 4: Now it's uh, it's a slip because he didn't have
- 17:17Speaker 4: anything yesterday, but he was on the pace for twenty
- 17:20Speaker 4: four catches two hundred and ninety six yards. I said,
- 17:22Speaker 4: I'm gonna look at Trey McBride second round. They're both
- 17:25Speaker 4: second round pick. Trey McBride was the fifty fifth pick.
- 17:28Speaker 4: Arroyo was the fiftieth man. I bet, I bet Trey
- 17:31Speaker 4: McBride and his rookie year just smoked it. Well, not really.
- 17:34Speaker 4: He only had twenty nine catches for two sixty five
- 17:37Speaker 4: almost so. But and then Pat Fryarmouth for the Steelers, Ah,
- 17:43Speaker 4: he had sixty catches for four ninety seven. Cole Comet
- 17:47Speaker 4: twenty eight catches. The big guy, the big guy, if
- 17:51Speaker 4: I wanted to really bring it, is Sam Laporta. You know,
- 17:54Speaker 4: he had eighty six catches for eight hundred and eighty
- 17:57Speaker 4: nine yards. So I think that's a little bit of
- 17:59Speaker 4: a mixed bag. But for the most part, I'll hold
- 18:01Speaker 4: to my my take, which is that you're not getting
- 18:06Speaker 4: enough out of Elijah Royal to as of today to
- 18:11Speaker 4: have justified using the fiftieth pick on him. There's a
- 18:15Speaker 4: lot of time to advance. As we said, Trey McBride
- 18:18Speaker 4: certainly vaulted from year two and beyond, so so we'll see.
- 18:22Speaker 4: But I'm just looking and saying, how the hell are
- 18:25Speaker 4: we gonna beat the Rams? That's not necessarily what Mike
- 18:28Speaker 4: McDonald's thinking. He probably has it in the back of
- 18:30Speaker 4: his mind, like we got to keep getting better. That's
- 18:33Speaker 4: one thing I learned on Don. You'd learned a lot
- 18:35Speaker 4: from your high school or college baseball coach. I learned
- 18:38Speaker 4: a lot from Don James's you have to keep getting
- 18:41Speaker 4: better during the season. He would repeat that over and over.
- 18:44Speaker 4: We have to improve, we got to be better, keep going,
- 18:47Speaker 4: keep and so I think as we sit there and say, Okay,
- 18:50Speaker 4: what can what can how can Sam Donald be better
- 18:53Speaker 4: against the Rams? It's some of those things. A better
- 18:55Speaker 4: feel was shed say maybe Eliza Royo poppin h but uh,
- 19:00Speaker 4: you know, right, but let's not do anything to detract
- 19:03Speaker 4: from what's going on with JSM Right.
- 19:05Speaker 2: Well, we're going to dive into that. I'm excited.
- 19:07Speaker 3: That was one of the things last night that I
- 19:09Speaker 3: was I can't wait to hear what you think about this.
- 19:13Speaker 3: How you can give us some insight of the tricks
- 19:15Speaker 3: of the trade that this guy obviously has.
- 19:17Speaker 2: We'll dive into Jackson.
- 19:19Speaker 3: Smith and Jigba in the record breaking game that he
- 19:21Speaker 3: had yesterday on the other side of the break stick
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- 19:46Speaker 4: But really a great asset that they brought in Starnold
- 19:50Speaker 4: with time going up top for Jackson Smith and Jack drops.
- 19:53Speaker 5: It at the bucket. How he woke backpedal for a touchdown.
- 20:00Speaker 3: So that is Jackson Smith and Jigba. I am Bucky Jacobson.
- 20:03Speaker 3: That's Ashley Ryan and we are joined for another better
- 20:07Speaker 3: part of two hours. Here another five segments with the
- 20:10Speaker 3: one and only Hugh Millan. Hugh that catch yesterday. I
- 20:14Speaker 3: want to dive into that a little bit because I
- 20:16Speaker 3: think you can give some insight. I'm watching it and
- 20:20Speaker 3: there's something about the recognizing the ball and I know
- 20:24Speaker 3: I've heard you talked about this before.
- 20:26Speaker 2: You can dive into it further, like.
- 20:28Speaker 3: How quickly Jackson Smith and Jigba seems to recognize where
- 20:32Speaker 3: the ball is actually going to come in relation to
- 20:35Speaker 3: how fast he's running whereas defender is because to me
- 20:37Speaker 3: it looked like he almost slows up, shields him off
- 20:40Speaker 3: with his body, then accelerates a tiny bit, puts his
- 20:43Speaker 3: hand out just not a push off, but just a yeah,
- 20:46Speaker 3: that's as close as you get, and then it drops
- 20:48Speaker 3: it in the bucket. I mean, is there are you
- 20:50Speaker 3: seeing the same things that I'm seeing? Or am I
- 20:52Speaker 3: imagining something when it comes to this dude's ball skills?
- 20:55Speaker 4: Yeah, well you know this from outfielders. You know how
- 21:00Speaker 4: they have to you know, track the ball right off
- 21:02Speaker 4: the crack of the bat. You know that's that's a
- 21:05Speaker 4: key component. I mean, if it takes you a split
- 21:07Speaker 4: second longer and you take a bad first step on
- 21:10Speaker 4: an angle, then you can make a play in the
- 21:13Speaker 4: gap look really difficult or not make the play. Whereas
- 21:16Speaker 4: if you know somebody who just has that in eight sense,
- 21:19Speaker 4: they just kind of glide over and they make it
- 21:21Speaker 4: look routine.
- 21:22Speaker 2: Right.
- 21:22Speaker 4: Well, on that play third and six at the minus
- 21:24Speaker 4: thirty seven, here's a a couple of key points. It's
- 21:28Speaker 4: the Seahawks are on a trip right, trip's right, and
- 21:30Speaker 4: the defense would call that the JSN was like he
- 21:33Speaker 4: motioned over. He lines up as number three counting outside in,
- 21:36Speaker 4: so he's the inside guy out of three, he's going.
- 21:40Speaker 4: They were able with the motion and everything in the coverage,
- 21:43Speaker 4: they were able to match up against a safety number
- 21:46Speaker 4: thirty seven, a Moni Hooker. So hooker is in outside leverage.
- 21:51Speaker 4: He has the coverages man and man. There's a post
- 21:54Speaker 4: safety deep, but because they're only rushing four instead of five,
- 21:58Speaker 4: there's also a shallow hole player. So think of it
- 22:01Speaker 4: like a deep free safety in center field and then
- 22:03Speaker 4: a shallow free safety in the in the UH in
- 22:06Speaker 4: the low middle. So he's he's trying to funnel any
- 22:10Speaker 4: in breaking route and he has outside leverage on an
- 22:12Speaker 4: outbreaking route. So as as Jaysn goes up the field
- 22:16Speaker 4: based on that, Now I just described the outside leverage.
- 22:19Speaker 4: That's a horizontal UH relationship I'm describing. And there's also
- 22:24Speaker 4: what's called the high shoulder or the low shoulder. If
- 22:26Speaker 4: he were to get excessively the defender excessively on the
- 22:30Speaker 4: high shoulder, meaning way down the field, you could JSN
- 22:34Speaker 4: could cross his face and and flatten it. But because
- 22:38Speaker 4: he was more or less even, Jasn says, okay, we're
- 22:42Speaker 4: even I'm leaving. I'm going over the top. I'm taking
- 22:44Speaker 4: a high angle. But from a quarterback perspective. You say,
- 22:47Speaker 4: wait a minute, that I got. I'm trying to throw
- 22:50Speaker 4: an outbreaking route and the defenders on the outside leverage
- 22:53Speaker 4: and JSN does not have elite long speed against a corner,
- 22:57Speaker 4: but it's against the safety, so he has a step.
- 23:01Speaker 4: And then now it's what you're talking about. Donald throws
- 23:05Speaker 4: the ball high. It was the NFL measured it at
- 23:08Speaker 4: forty three air yards. That's from the line of scrimmage.
- 23:11Speaker 4: I calculated because I'm a nerd, and a a square
- 23:15Speaker 4: plus B squared is C squared if you calculate the
- 23:18Speaker 4: uh the hypot news, that's a fifty three yards in
- 23:22Speaker 4: the air Okay, from the hand of of of Donald
- 23:26Speaker 4: until it arrives at JSN. Now, as you said, here's
- 23:30Speaker 4: the part about JSN that has flat out elite as
- 23:34Speaker 4: good as as as any of the receivers who's ever
- 23:37Speaker 4: played this game. When he turns and and he's locating
- 23:43Speaker 4: that ball, as you said, he'll slow down, he'll he
- 23:46Speaker 4: use his body and and and he also it also
- 23:48Speaker 4: did it in the red zone. And maybe we'll have
- 23:50Speaker 4: time to describe that. But that hand fighting, he's just
- 23:55Speaker 4: totally immune to the distraction. And then the hand push
- 23:59Speaker 4: the Utah talked about. This is just the high IQ
- 24:03Speaker 4: Michael Irvin had it. I played with him where where
- 24:06Speaker 4: there's a subtlety to to It's like goldilocks in the porch.
- 24:10Speaker 4: Not too hot, not too cold. How much am I
- 24:13Speaker 4: going to push off on the defender? Not too little
- 24:16Speaker 4: because I won't get the separation to make the play.
- 24:19Speaker 4: Not too much, I'll get an OPI it's just right.
- 24:23Speaker 4: And it's always just right with this guy. And then
- 24:25Speaker 4: and then and then just the ability, the late hands ability,
- 24:30Speaker 4: it's like if it touches his hands, it's it's like
- 24:35Speaker 4: it's like he's got I don't know, flypaper. That sounds
- 24:37Speaker 4: like a week old analogy. But but he just refuses
- 24:41Speaker 4: to drop a ball that is remotely catch a ball,
- 24:44Speaker 4: particularly those deep ones. Tyler Lockett had a little bit
- 24:47Speaker 4: of that skill, but this guy, uh, just the but
- 24:52Speaker 4: he would.
- 24:52Speaker 2: Use his body.
- 24:54Speaker 4: This guy can and just got with guys, you know,
- 24:57Speaker 4: grabbing in his arms and knelbles and pushing and running
- 25:00Speaker 4: full speed and slowing down as you said, I mean,
- 25:03Speaker 4: it's just incredible. It's also worth noting, uh that ball
- 25:06Speaker 4: was it was held three three point zero seconds. Is
- 25:09Speaker 4: what the NFL had that the the offensive line because
- 25:14Speaker 4: it's third down. There was a to the outside of
- 25:18Speaker 4: of Abe Lucas was a what a five technique which
- 25:22Speaker 4: is outside the tackle, and then there's a nine technique
- 25:25Speaker 4: way out there. So the the Titans had widened their
- 25:29Speaker 4: defensive line what uh, in ways that you would never
- 25:33Speaker 4: do on first and second down. And so at the
- 25:36Speaker 4: snap of the ball, Gray's Abel he's blocking the three
- 25:39Speaker 4: technique outside the the right side of the line, Bradford
- 25:43Speaker 4: and Lucas are are blocking those guys, and the the
- 25:47Speaker 4: vision that opened up, you could see a thousand pass
- 25:51Speaker 4: plays you're never gonna see better, a better protection better.
- 25:55Speaker 2: Uh.
- 25:55Speaker 4: It was like it was like seven on seven for
- 25:57Speaker 4: Sam Darnold. There was no around him, nobody in his
- 26:02Speaker 4: vision and he was able to.
- 26:05Speaker 3: Uh.
- 26:06Speaker 4: You watch his steps and he takes three hitches on
- 26:11Speaker 4: the play because he thought he was going to a
- 26:14Speaker 4: shorter route. But he he's able to take three steps
- 26:18Speaker 4: and hold the ball and wait for all this to
- 26:20Speaker 4: develop because of how Tennessee played it in the pass blocking,
- 26:25Speaker 4: so a lot going into that. But JSN is just
- 26:28Speaker 4: next level at finishing. That's what I put on my notes.
- 26:32Speaker 4: How he can finish because you know, because one thing
- 26:34Speaker 4: to go, you know, unless you have a guy that
- 26:38Speaker 4: that can actually close the sale when the ball is
- 26:42Speaker 4: is right there to be caught, the rest of it
- 26:44Speaker 4: doesn't matter.
- 26:45Speaker 2: Right.
- 26:46Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I mean that's an awesome breakdown to the
- 26:49Speaker 3: We're gonna get a little bit more into that when
- 26:51Speaker 3: we have Homegun next hour, just because there's a part
- 26:54Speaker 3: of Greg Bell said, I'd felt like I saw like
- 26:59Speaker 3: glimpses of a Jerry Rice, and I just thought, oh
- 27:01Speaker 3: my gosh, that's a name to come up. But you
- 27:04Speaker 3: just said that his ball skills or that maybe it's
- 27:07Speaker 3: the finishing way in which he can finish is as
- 27:10Speaker 3: good as anybody.
- 27:12Speaker 2: That you've seen. So I would not go ahead. I'm sorry. Well,
- 27:16Speaker 2: I'm just saying we're going to get into that some more.
- 27:18Speaker 3: I'm gonna be able to have you and Coach kind
- 27:20Speaker 3: of go back and forth a little bit about JSN
- 27:22Speaker 3: when we get him on the air.
- 27:23Speaker 4: But Ice would not be my comp I'll just say
- 27:25Speaker 4: that I got a couple other ideas, but Rice would
- 27:28Speaker 4: not be my comp would be interesting to see what
- 27:31Speaker 4: Coach Holmgren says.
- 27:32Speaker 3: I would have a hard time thinking he's going to
- 27:34Speaker 3: say he's his comp either, even while he's given him
- 27:36Speaker 3: as many accolades as he deserves at this point, being
- 27:39Speaker 3: the all time leading Seahawks receiver for a single season
- 27:42Speaker 3: is pretty impressive when you have six games to go.
- 27:45Speaker 3: So on the other side of this, though, Hugh, I
- 27:47Speaker 3: want to get into a little bit about the college
- 27:50Speaker 3: coaching situation at this point in time. I get some
- 27:53Speaker 3: vacancies and whatnot. So listeners stick around and we'll be
- 27:56Speaker 3: back here at Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
- 28:00Speaker 4: Placement down.
- 28:01Speaker 5: They're gonna fake it, throw it over the shoulder, and
- 28:03Speaker 5: the ball's gonna get picked up. Smclough Lee's off and
- 28:06Speaker 5: running hit the fifteenth. There he goes anually right side.
- 28:09Speaker 5: Oh it's mclough little go all the way his second
- 28:13Speaker 5: touchdown of the year, and the Washington Husky's taken intended
- 28:17Speaker 5: trick playing by u CLA and turn it into a
- 28:21Speaker 5: brewing disaster.
- 28:25Speaker 2: A bruin disaster hurts your heart, doesn't it.
- 28:29Speaker 3: Oh that's I don't think there's anything makes you happier
- 28:32Speaker 3: other than maybe a duck disaster.
- 28:33Speaker 2: You might like that more would make me really happy.
- 28:36Speaker 3: Oh boy, o boy, that was quite the butt whooping.
- 28:39Speaker 3: Welcome back to Sports Radio ninety three point three. KJRFM
- 28:42Speaker 3: is Chuck and Buck Show minus Chuck, but we still
- 28:44Speaker 3: got Ashley and we got the normal Monday morning quarterback
- 28:48Speaker 3: dose of Hugh Milling. Hugh, I wanted to ask just
- 28:52Speaker 3: the idea of college football, the college coaching, you know,
- 28:57Speaker 3: all these openings that are out there right now, general
- 28:59Speaker 3: thought on what's going on in that situation.
- 29:03Speaker 4: Well, I think it's unprecedented. All the movement we're going
- 29:06Speaker 4: to see. It's going to be a gigantic game of
- 29:08Speaker 4: musical chairs. And if you were to take out a
- 29:10Speaker 4: piece of paper and put on the top November twenty fourth,
- 29:14Speaker 4: and then proceed to say, okay, fill in all the
- 29:19Speaker 4: predictions for what coaches are going to go to what spots,
- 29:23Speaker 4: and then have a wildcard section for other jobs are
- 29:26Speaker 4: going to come open, because as guys fill these jobs,
- 29:29Speaker 4: other jobs are going to come open. I think that
- 29:32Speaker 4: if you were to read that in two months, me included,
- 29:36Speaker 4: we'd all be just like, oh my god, goodness, we
- 29:38Speaker 4: could have never foreseen this. Back on November twenty fourth,
- 29:42Speaker 4: I think Lane Kiffin is the He's the first domino,
- 29:46Speaker 4: and I was shocked by the release that Ole Miss
- 29:51Speaker 4: had look it up online. But essentially, it sure looks
- 29:57Speaker 4: to me like they are anticipating that Lane Kiffin's gone.
- 30:00Speaker 4: There's you know, let's talk about LSU possibly Florida, but
- 30:05Speaker 4: everything's gonna start shifting from there. And I did I
- 30:09Speaker 4: did note that that Dan Lanning. Uh, he was on
- 30:14Speaker 4: game day and he said, and I quote, he goes,
- 30:18Speaker 4: this is my spot. I'm gonna be here forever. Now
- 30:23Speaker 4: he's not bound to that. He could take the LSU
- 30:25Speaker 4: LSU job, and then he could turn around and say, well,
- 30:28Speaker 4: that's what I thought when I said it last week.
- 30:31Speaker 4: But then you know that was based on a set
- 30:33Speaker 4: of assumptions and and I got more money or or
- 30:37Speaker 4: you know whatever. And so, uh, these coaches are in
- 30:40Speaker 4: a tough position when asked by the media, and uh,
- 30:44Speaker 4: and they take different tacks. But you know, I'm gonna
- 30:47Speaker 4: be surprised if Lank Giffen is the coach at ole
- 30:50Speaker 4: Miss next year. And I think there's gonna be a
- 30:52Speaker 4: lot of surprises in behind it.
- 30:53Speaker 3: Yeah, it is nuts the way, And I don't, like
- 30:56Speaker 3: you said, I don't really fault the coaches. I well,
- 30:58Speaker 3: I felt ill the system, right, It's just and you
- 31:01Speaker 3: play the game that you play, and so if it's
- 31:04Speaker 3: one of those where you can get offered somewhere else,
- 31:07Speaker 3: then you have every right to go. It's unfortunate for
- 31:10Speaker 3: the kids that followed you there, and yet they have
- 31:12Speaker 3: the opportunity to follow you if you want to transfer
- 31:15Speaker 3: somewhere else. So very interesting, and yet there is a
- 31:18Speaker 3: ton of openings in the landscape of college coaches. Is
- 31:21Speaker 3: going to train change huge? I mean, you know, to
- 31:24Speaker 3: some degree, Jedfish tried to put those those conversations at Bay,
- 31:29Speaker 3: you know, a couple of weeks ago, with folks just
- 31:32Speaker 3: leaning into the idea of maybe you would be he
- 31:35Speaker 3: would be interested in moving and going somewhere else because
- 31:38Speaker 3: he has been a bit of a nomad. Soh, Jedfish,
- 31:42Speaker 3: is this a situation you're feeling good about him being here?
- 31:44Speaker 3: Should the should you dubb try to extend him to
- 31:47Speaker 3: keep him here at this point?
- 31:49Speaker 4: Well, first of all, Jedfish, he said what what is
- 31:55Speaker 4: appropriate to say? And he basically just said I love
- 31:58Speaker 4: it at Washington. He was not asked, nor should have
- 32:01Speaker 4: he been asked, nor would he answer the question, Okay,
- 32:04Speaker 4: you love it Washington, but how many schools would you
- 32:08Speaker 4: would you go to if given a contract that surpasses
- 32:13Speaker 4: your seven and a half million dollar contract here, So
- 32:16Speaker 4: we just don't know as for whether or not Washington
- 32:20Speaker 4: should engage in extending him. That's everybody's opinion. My opinion
- 32:26Speaker 4: is absolutely, unequivocally no. And for the following reason. There's
- 32:32Speaker 4: evidence that he's a good coach, yes, as a good
- 32:35Speaker 4: head coach. Is there evidence that he's a great coach.
- 32:39Speaker 4: I don't see it. I think that is yet to
- 32:42Speaker 4: be determined. And let me put a couple of comments
- 32:47Speaker 4: to that point. And there's more. But he's an offensive coach.
- 32:51Speaker 4: He's the offensive playmaker Washington has played. If you take
- 32:57Speaker 4: all of the power for teams and you say a
- 33:00Speaker 4: top thirty teams ranked in defense points allowed, Ohio State, Michigan,
- 33:07Speaker 4: and Wisconsin are in the top thirty. This is out
- 33:11Speaker 4: of sixty seven teams. These are Power four teams. Ohio State, Michigan,
- 33:15Speaker 4: and Wisconsin are in the top thirty. That's the Washington's losses. Illinois, Maryland, Purdue, UCLA,
- 33:22Speaker 4: and Rutgers are outside of the top fifty out of
- 33:27Speaker 4: sixty seven. So I'm just gonna summarize these as the
- 33:32Speaker 4: hard teams were the ones I said, the top thirty,
- 33:34Speaker 4: Ohio State, Michigan, Wisconsin. This is the defenses now, and
- 33:38Speaker 4: the easy teams were the other ones that I set.
- 33:40Speaker 4: So the typical let's go, let's go points per game. Now,
- 33:45Speaker 4: these are all Power four teams playing in conference only,
- 33:49Speaker 4: so sixty seven teams. You would expect that you would
- 33:53Speaker 4: points per game that you would drop against, you know,
- 33:56Speaker 4: from the easy to the hard, and in fact you do.
- 33:58Speaker 4: You go from twenty the rest of the power forward
- 34:00Speaker 4: goes from twenty eight point three to twenty point five,
- 34:04Speaker 4: a drop of seven point eight. Washington goes from forty
- 34:09Speaker 4: point two, which is seventh to seven point seven. They
- 34:13Speaker 4: instead of a seven point eight, which is the average drop,
- 34:16Speaker 4: they drop thirty two and a half. How about yards
- 34:18Speaker 4: per game? What's what? What is typical is against the
- 34:23Speaker 4: hard teams again, I'll start with the easy teams. You
- 34:26Speaker 4: go your three hundred ninety two yards game. Against the
- 34:28Speaker 4: hard teams, you're three thirty one, so you have a
- 34:30Speaker 4: drop of six to sixty one. Washington drops two hundred
- 34:34Speaker 4: and twenty six. Good. They go from four to seventy
- 34:36Speaker 4: to two forty four. They go from fourteenth place to
- 34:39Speaker 4: sixty second out of sixty seven the points per game,
- 34:43Speaker 4: they go from seventh to sixty fourth UH yards per
- 34:48Speaker 4: play a similar most teams drop point seven, the Huskies
- 34:51Speaker 4: drop two point nine. They go from seven point one
- 34:55Speaker 4: to four point two. They go from the seventh best
- 34:57Speaker 4: against easy teams to the sixty second best out of
- 35:01Speaker 4: sixty seven against the hard teams. So I just I
- 35:06Speaker 4: think I'm gonna need to see more as a Husky fan,
- 35:09Speaker 4: as an analyst. Matt Patricia the head the defensive coordinator
- 35:13Speaker 4: at at Ohio State, Wink Martindale, the defensive coordinator at Michigan.
- 35:16Speaker 4: Those are the guys who were NFL guys that absolutely
- 35:19Speaker 4: put the clamps on Washington's offense. And so so here
- 35:23Speaker 4: we're we here typically a lot of stats. Well, those
- 35:29Speaker 4: stats involved what you did against UC Davis, what you
- 35:33Speaker 4: did against Washington State, what was their other non Colorado State.
- 35:39Speaker 4: They also are the as I said, the five in
- 35:42Speaker 4: conference where they racked up all these yards and points.
- 35:46Speaker 4: Those were five teams that are in the lower than
- 35:50Speaker 4: fifty out of sixty seven teams. And so to me,
- 35:55Speaker 4: you don't really define yourself as as where you say,
- 35:58Speaker 4: wait a minute, you got a seven. Your contract. But
- 36:01Speaker 4: I'm dying to up you now. No, that would be
- 36:05Speaker 4: if I if I had seen evidence that he's a
- 36:07Speaker 4: great coach. I haven't seen it yet. All right, get
- 36:11Speaker 4: your two years into a seven year contract. What is
- 36:13Speaker 4: the What is the urgency? I just don't see it.
- 36:15Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I don't know for sure if it would
- 36:18Speaker 3: be worth the paper that it would be signed on right,
- 36:20Speaker 3: because he could still leave if something comes up.
- 36:22Speaker 4: Well, if you could, you could extend him, you know,
- 36:26Speaker 4: give him a lot more money, raise the buyout because
- 36:28Speaker 4: it's going to drop to six million on January tenth.
- 36:31Speaker 4: It's ten million today. It's going to drop so so
- 36:36Speaker 4: some people are talking about that. I don't have that
- 36:39Speaker 4: inclination whatsoever. I gave you some of the reasons. This
- 36:43Speaker 4: is the shorter segment. I've got more. But you know
- 36:46Speaker 4: that would that would be a place that I would
- 36:48Speaker 4: start where I'd say, hey, let's just see how things go.
- 36:51Speaker 2: I'm with him. There's no urgency.
- 36:53Speaker 3: I think most Husky fans probably would want to be
- 36:55Speaker 3: in a wait and see, not get him out of here.
- 36:57Speaker 3: That would be I think that would be premature. And
- 37:01Speaker 3: yet at the same time, let's just see how this
- 37:03Speaker 3: whole thing pans out. Well, I mean we got we've
- 37:05Speaker 3: had an hour of our Monday morning quarterback and getting
- 37:08Speaker 3: your insight, Hugh and your knowledge dropped in there. We're
- 37:11Speaker 3: going to uh, we're gonna continue that. We're gonna ad
- 37:13Speaker 3: a little wisdom in here with coach Holmgren coming up
- 37:17Speaker 3: next for the next hour. Stick around here at ninety
- 37:19Speaker 3: three point three KGRFM.