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080 // The Secrets of T4 to T3 Conversion · Health with Hashimoto’s - Thyroid or Immune Education for Autoimmune Thyroid Disease

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  When you have hypothyroidism or Hashimoto's, sometimes it feels like you have
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  absolutely no energy, none.
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  And one of the reasons for that is maybe not your thyroid.
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  Maybe your thyroid is producing enough thyroid hormone, T4, but it's not getting
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  converted to the type that your body can use, the T3.
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  If you're short on T3, you're going to be short on everything that relies on
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  that little ignition switch for the cell, like energy.
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  So today I'm going to answer that question of what stops T4 from converting
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  to T3 or what can I do to help my body convert T4 to T3 again?
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  Welcome to the Health with Hashimoto's podcast.
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  I am Esther. I am a registered nurse. I'm a holistic health educator and I'm a mom of four.
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  I live in the country and I have a whole bunch chickens.
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  The weather right now, it's really weird.
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  I'm recording this, you know, in the middle of winter, except the weather doesn't know that it's winter.
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  And therefore my chickens don't know that it's winter either.
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  So the roosters are just crowing a ton. I do have a little sound shield around
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  my microphone, so hopefully you won't hear them, but it's about every three
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  seconds I can hear the roosters crowing.
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  So I hope that you don't hear them. And if you do, I hope it just makes makes you smile.
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  So on this episode, we're going to talk about T4 to T3.
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  And just like always, I'm going to give you simple, sustainable strategies,
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  because I always want you to leave knowing that you can do something for your health.
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  I posted a picture on Instagram the other day, and it was basically like,
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  don't wait for a diagnosis.
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  People wait, or they're seeking a diagnosis on average for four years before
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  they find out that they have Hashimoto's or even they have hypothyroid.
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  And then it takes longer to find out that that's caused by Hashimoto's. And it
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  all of that time during those four years and those four different specialists,
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  which is on average, you can be doing things for your health.
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  Like let's just take the very basic things, sleep.
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  We all need sleep and that's what our bodies heal and restore and renew. So we need sleep.
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  You can be doing that. You can be prioritizing that all the time,
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  not just after you get a diagnosis.
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  You know, cutting out processed foods, we can be doing that all of of the time,
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  not just after we get a diagnosis.
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  It's easier sometimes to be looking for ways to help after you have a diagnosis
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  because you know more what you're attacking.
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  But then of course, there's also a lot of situations where you'll get a diagnosis
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  of Hashimoto's or hypothyroid, and you don't know what caused it.
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  So you don't know how to fix it. You don't know what those root causes are.
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  And that's why I created a workshop to help you figure out what your root causes
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  are so that you know exactly what to do.
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  So head down to the show notes. There's a link or you can head over to healthwithhashimotos.com
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  and you can sign up for that free workshop so you can figure out what your root causes are.
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  But today, let's talk about T4 to T3 conversion.
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  Now, you might need a quick refresher. That's okay.
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  Episode three is all about your labs and what the different things do.
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  But essentially, you need to know this. Every single cell needs a little spark
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  plug in order to start to activate that cell, right?
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  And it is your T3 that is that spark plug.
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  However, your thyroid creates T4, and then that has to be converted in order to be able to be used.
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  Sometimes the T4 gets converted to the brakes instead.
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  You know, it's like a parent giving giving their overtired kid a nap instead of caffeine.
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  They're like, no, you want more energy, you want to do stuff,
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  but I know that you need a nap because you are exhausted and I'm not going to give you this caffeine.
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  That is kind of what reverse T3 is. It's the T4 getting converted to the brakes system.
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  It's to help you slow down so that you have to prioritize rest and healing.
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  And really what we all want is T3 is more energy, the ability to continue do,
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  do, do, do doing because we have a lot to do.
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  We are very busy. We have a lot of different things on our plates.
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  So naturally, we want to maintain our energy. We want to build that energy so we can get things done.
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  So let's talk about why T4 to T3 conversion doesn't happen.
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  And the main place that T4 is converted is your liver.
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  So obviously, one of the things that we're going to focus on is our liver health
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  and helping our liver to not be congested.
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  Episode 69 is primarily about estrogen, but estrogen has to do with the liver
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  because the liver processes estrogen.
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  So I talked a lot about liver health. I gave you a lot of tips in episode 69.
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  I do have the link to that episode down in the show notes, but basically you
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  want to help your liver to do what your liver is supposed I hear people,
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  especially in the medical world.
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  Talk about your body as if we were like 200, 300 years ago.
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  And they're like, your liver, of course, it's the primary detox organ and it
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  can do what it's supposed to do. Why are you talking about liver health?
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  Why are you talking about supporting the liver? Why are you talking about liver congestion?
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  Well, it's because we live in the 2020s where we are surrounded by different
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  environmental chemicals and toxins that our bodies have to process and deal with.
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  These are things things that nobody was exposed to even 50, 60, 70 years ago.
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  There are more and more put on the market every single day.
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  It's kind of scary to look up the statistics of how many different chemicals
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  are put into our world, are created every single year. It's absolutely crazy.
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  So we want to support our livers.
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  I'm not going to go through all of those things because that That was pretty
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  much an entire podcast episode in episode 69.
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  So head back there and I will tell you about liver health there.
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  The second thing is if you are not converting T4 to T3 well,
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  it could be because you don't have the ingredients.
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  You need selenium. Selenium helps your body convert T4 to T3.
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  And when I first started looking into thyroid stuff, that was the first thing I read.
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  Or one of the first things was like you need 200
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  oh shoot I don't know if it's micrograms or
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  milligrams it's 200 of selenium every day
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  which is approximately two brazil nuts every single day well that's pretty easy
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  to do right if you like brazil nuts a lot of supplements also have selenium
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  in them especially the thyroid supplements because selenium is required for
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  that conversion For your body to convert the inactive form, the T4 to T3,
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  you have to have selenium and you have to have enough selenium.
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  So I gave you liver congestion. That's the biggest problem in this conversion.
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  And selenium is like the easiest one to tackle. So I gave you both ends of the spectrum.
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  Now let's go towards the middle. So another huge thing that can inhibit that
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  conversion, it can stop the conversion or slow the conversion of T4 to T3 is stress.
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  It's specifically your stress hormone, the cortisol, and we have talked about that before.
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  But when your cortisol is up, it has this like negative feedback loop.
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  So, you know, it just keeps going round and round and round and it's not good.
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  It slows your T4 to T3 or it stops it.
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  It makes your body say, nope, we're going to convert it to reverse T3 because
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  we need to put the brakes on.
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  So addressing our stress levels and addressing are adrenals,
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  which are the little glands that put out the stress hormones.
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  That is really important.
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  Another problem of increased stress is when your body is in that stressed mode,
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  it can cause your cells to be less receptive to those thyroid hormones.
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  So even if you are making an FT4 and then you're converting it to T3 adequately.
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  Your actual tissues, shoes, your actual cells might be less sensitive.
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  And so then you can still feel like you have hypothyroid.
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  So there's so much going on. And when I was doing the research for this episode,
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  I was just struck over and over, like everything I would read,
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  it would remind me that everything is related.
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  You really cannot work on just one thing.
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  Your body just doesn't work that way. Your body, mind, spirit,
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  diet, environment is all connected.
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  You are a whole person. That's why I have that five-petaled flower in my logo, because you're whole.
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  Each of those is connected, and yet it goes deeper.
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  Like, you know, selenium is something that you eat.
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  It's related to your diet, of course, but then that impacts how your body converts
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  T4 to T3, and when you're stressed, that impacts it.
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  But then there's so much more. I took notes.
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  I actually had to have chat GPT do this one for me, which is just funny.
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  I read it like three times and it was making sense in my head,
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  but it's like, oh my goodness, I am just tired and I just want this in simple terms.
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  So I told chat GPT, like put this in simple terms for me.
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  And basically what What this research article said was that thyroid hormones
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  and then minerals in things like iodine, selenium, iron, copper, zinc,
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  calcium, magnesium, they all play a role in tons of things, including the thyroid.
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  And then it went on to say how all of these different things were related to
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  something else, which was related to something else.
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  And then that closed the circle.
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  And then then those impacted autoimmune
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  thyroid problems. It was this like really long convoluted thing.
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  And maybe I will do a future episode about all of these things because it was a fascinating article.
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  I just had to read it a couple times and it's still at that high level where
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  obviously if I had to put it into chat GPT, like I can't explain it super simply
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  yet, but I will get there. I
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  Anyway, that article, it was super fascinating because what they ended up saying,
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  oh my goodness, this is maybe going to drive you as crazy as it drove me crazy.
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  They said, we don't have a medicine for this yet.
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  So we're going to have to keep working on looking at how to give your body a
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  boost with all of the other things and putting them all together.
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  And that's not how medicine likes to work. Medicine doesn't like to say you
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  need a whole bunch of things.
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  They like to say this is one problem with one solution.
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  Looking at it and seeing there is one problem, and you're going to need a blend
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  of iodine, selenium, zinc, magnesium, decreased stress, all of this stuff in
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  order to attack one problem.
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  Well, that's not how medicine works. So the article, or sorry,
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  the research paper, they sounded fairly frustrated at the end,
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  like basically saying, we don't have a medicine for this, so we're going to keep on working.
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  And yet everything they had talked about in that article were things that we
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  know that we can address.
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  For example, one of them was oxidative stress.
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  When your cells are working, just like a car, when it's working,
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  it puts out exhaust, right?
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  Your cells kind of put out exhaust that when they're working,
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  they create what are are called free radicals.
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  And those, just like your exhaust, it causes pollution.
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  And the pollution in your cells is just like a browning of a banana or rust
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  on a car. It's oxidative stress.
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  And we know that we can clean it up.
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  I talk about protandum NRF2 a lot because research, like multiple dozens of
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  research studies have shown us how it helps.
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  Protandum NRF2, it decreases your oxidative stress by 40% in 30 days.
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  And this article is like, yeah, oxidative stress is one problem and we need
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  to work on it, but we don't have a medicine for it yet.
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  Well, no, because herbs help.
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  Protandim NRF2 is a blend of five herbs and they're very common herbs.
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  And in fact, in NRF2, in that activator, they're in really small quantities
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  and medicine doesn't like that that either.
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  Western medicine is like, go big or go home.
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  Well, sometimes you don't have to go big. Sometimes small, simple,
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  sustainable things are what works.
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  Anyway, back to T4 and T3. I got myself all fired up. All right.
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  So I was talking about stress.
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  Because stress is related to everything. Stress, you know, makes your tissues
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  less receptive to the thyroid hormones. It also stops the conversion.
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  So what can you do about your adrenals and about the stress?
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  I have a bunch of episodes, but today I will tell you specifically about episode
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  24, because I did talk about your adrenal glands in 24.
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  I have other episodes about stress as well, but episode 24 is about your adrenals
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  and chronic stress, and I can give you some tips in there.
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  Most likely, I also reference the other stress episodes I've done because there's a bunch.
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  One thing that I have not mentioned on the stress episodes is something I pinned
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  to my Instagram or saved to my Instagram the other day.
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  I need to do a reel or a post about it, and it's reading books,
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  reading fiction books, like, you know, not fact books, but fiction stories.
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  It decreases your stress and it helps your overall health.
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  So I love to read. I absolutely love to read. It is like my go-to.
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  I don't watch TV very much. I don't watch TV hardly at all, but I read books
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  almost every single night.
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  I am tucked in my bed reading until I fall asleep or until I get tired and I
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  put my book down because I know that I will stay awake as long as the book is
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  open. So I do close the book.
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  Anyway, books can help you lower stress and I don't think I've talked about
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  that in any of the the stress episodes.
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  My goodness, I am all over today. So back to T4 to T3. We're decreasing stress.
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  We're focusing on our adrenals. We're focusing on our liver.
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  We're eating Brazil nuts or making sure that we get enough selenium.
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  And then here's something that you cannot change, and that is genetic mutations.
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  You might have heard of the MTHFR gene mutation.
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  There's a lot lot more talk about that. But there's another genetic mutation, and it is really long.
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  The best I could find for a name, it's THR92ALADIO2 polymorphism.
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  It's super long, right?
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  Basically, if you have this genetic mutation, which according to one study I
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  read, one in five people has it, you might not be able to adequately convert
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  T4 to T3. So what does that mean for you?
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  Well, it means you don't have to go get genetic testing to figure this out.
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  Maybe you want to, and that's okay.
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  But if you feel like you've been taking T4, if you've been taking levothyroxine,
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  synthroid, things that are just T4,
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  and you're not feeling like you have enough energy, or you're taking it and
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  you get your blood drawn and you see that your free T3.
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  Free meaning it's available in your blood for your cells to like reach out and grab.
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  If your free T3 is still low, then your body might not be converting and you
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  can address it with the other ways that I've talked about, but you might just need T3.
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  And so that would be armor or that would be some blend of T4 and T3 or it's
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  taking a T4 and then adding a different T3 with it.
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  Now T3 has a bad rap in the medical world because back I think in the 1980s it was used wrongly.
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  It was used by people who wanted extra energy and who wanted to lose weight.
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  So they falsely you know increased it and then they had side effects because
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  then you're going to have heart palpitations and you're going to have anxiety
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  and you're going to have all of these crazy hyperthyroid symptoms which are not good.
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  Your thyroid and your thyroid hormones need to be in the Goldilocks range.
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  So when people were using this T3 and using it wrongly, then it got this reputation
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  of being really harmful.
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  It's not harmful. It's harmful if it's used wrong and you might need it.
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  So there are pills of T3 and like I said, there's already combinations and there's
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  also like a cream and some people find that they do a cream better.
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  Now for that prescription, you might have to dig around for a different doctor
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  or a compounding pharmacy.
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  You might have to really be a patient advocate for that one because it's not as common.
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  But in the research and in the books that I have read, sometimes that cream
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  works better because T3 is a very fast acting.
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  So if you put it on a cream, then it absorbs a little bit slower through your
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  skin and it just is more sustained energy throughout the day.
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  That is something to have a conversation with your doctor about.
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  I am not your doctor. I'm not prescribing. I'm not recommending.
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  But I am empowering you to have information and knowledge so that you know what
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  to talk to your doctor about.
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  So the main things that stop T4 to T3 conversion would be number one,
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  your liver. Number two, your stress.
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  Number three, you don't have the ingredients like selenium. And then there's that genetic mutation.
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  So what can you do? will make sure that you're getting the ingredients.
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  Like vitamin A, it's essential for liver function and you can't get it if you're
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  doing a vegan diet. I'm sorry.
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  You can get beta carotene, which is converted to vitamin A, but to have adequate
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  levels of vitamin A, you do need some animal sources.
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  And that is why I believe that we are seeing
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  more and more thyroid problems in vegans in
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  people who follow a vegan diet for many years
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  often they will develop problems and
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  that is something really hard for people to hear because being vegan is usually
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  more about diet more it's about more than diet it's about you know how you feel
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  about animals and the environment and different things however being vegan means
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  that you might not be getting the exact nutrients nutrients that you need.
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  So vitamin A is one example of a nutrient that you need in order to have your
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  liver work, in order to convert T4 to T3.
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  Magnesium is another one. It is the number one deficiency in the Western world
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  and it controls like 300, over 300 different functions in the body.
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  Magnesium is a mineral. It's so important for everything.
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  And one of those 300 functions is conversion from T4 to T3. So we really need
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  to focus on getting everything.
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  Now there's a whole lot of forms of magnesium and usually when when you're supplementing
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  with magnesium, it's more than you can get in a multivitamin.
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  Most multivitamins or multinutrients do have some magnesium,
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  but not enough. It's one that you have to take extra.
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  I take mine at bedtime. I take a blend that has calcium and magnesium,
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  and then it has multiple kinds of magnesium in it. And it helps me sleep better.
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  I feel like my muscles are more relaxed when I take it. I started taking it
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  back when I was pregnant.
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  I've I've been pregnant five times. I have four kids, one miscarriage.
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  And you know that third trimester when you're giving so many minerals to your
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  baby as it's growing, like all of a sudden you have leg cramps and restless
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  legs and it is just horrible.
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  I started taking that blend when I was pregnant and it was so good.
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  My legs were fine when I was taking it. And so I've been a believer in that
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  one ever since, maybe even before.
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  Anyway, so the magnesium, you're going to take it at night if you choose to supplement it.
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  You just don't want to take it with your thyroid medications because there can be some interactions.
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  So that is what I have for you today. There are a lot of reasons why your T4
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  might not be converting to T3, but most of them are things that we've talked about before.
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  Your liver, your stress, and your nutrients.
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  And then of course there's that genetic mutation, which you can't do anything about.
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  You just have to observe and then take action and say maybe this is going on. Can we try this?
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  Or maybe you would say to your doctor or provider, I've heard that one in four
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  people has a genetic mutation and they cannot convert T4 to T3.
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  So do you think that I might be one of those one in five?
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  Do you think maybe we need to try a T3 for me? Would that help?
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  And hopefully your doctor or your provider is going to say, you know,
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  no, I hadn't considered that. That's a great idea. Let's do that.
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  And if they don't give you a positive response, then maybe it's time to look
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  for another provider, one who will work with you because we want you to always
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  be improving, to get the help that you need, to have the resources that you need.
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  I firmly believe that your provider should be fighting for you just as hard
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  as you are fighting for yourself.
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  Of course, you are the CEO of your own health.
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  You make the ultimate decision, but you want a really good team on your board
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  of advisors and your doctor is on your team.
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  So hopefully you have a really good one and you can get what you need so that
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  your body can convert T4 to T3.
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  Now, as far as all of the minerals and everything, I think I've talked about
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  it before. what I choose to do is I take a multi-nutrient. And I know I'm already at 22 minutes.
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  I try to stop at 20, but I want to tell you about this.
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  There are so many different things in your body that all need different resources.
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  They need different nutrients. They need vitamins and minerals and they need
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  them in different levels.
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  And if you supplement with one, like then you're going to have a problem somewhere
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  else because they all have to be in balance.
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  So what I do is I take a multi-nutrient and
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  it's time wise that's not the name of the
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  product but it's created with time wise technology so
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  that I take it twice a day because in a multivitamin most multivitamins there
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  are things that counteract each other so you'll have one thing that like inactivates
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  another ingredient well the multi-nutrient that I take those are divided out
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  so in the morning I take the things that are going to be you know most beneficial
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  for my energy throughout the day.
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  And then in the evening, I take the one that has a little bit more mineral content
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  and nothing interacts and cancels out the other things.
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  I do feel like in the last five to 10 years, there are more and more multi-nutrients
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  and vitamins coming on the market that look at the balance of everything,
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  the synergy, how everything works together.
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  So I feel like there are more options now than there were 20 years ago when
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  I first had to start looking looking for a really good vitamin.
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  At the end, we didn't, I don't even think we knew about adaptogens.
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  Hopefully the multi-nutrient that you choose does have adaptogens.
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  Adaptogens is just a fancy way of saying nutrients that support like your stress response.
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  They help you adapt. They help your body adapt.
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  So the multi-nutrient that I take does have adaptogens.
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  You can find a lot of them on the market now.
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  And when you're looking, I mean, you could just take my word for it and head
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  down to the show notes. The one that I use is from LifeVantage.com.
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  They're the same company that makes ProTandem, the NRF2 that I was talking about.
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  And one nice thing about doing it that way is that the company expects that
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  you're going to use multiple products and they make sure that all of the products
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  are designed to go with all of the products.
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  So I know that I'm not going to, you know, get too much of something or I'm
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  not going to like break the synergy.
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  So that is why I use a lot of products from LaVantage.
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  Number one, they're the best on the market like they're the only place
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  that you're going to get that nrf2 activator so i
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  love that i can just you know add to my order everything comes on
• 24:35
  subscription i don't have to worry about it i get the nrf2 activator i get the
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  nrf1 which helps my mitochondria that's the energy production of your cell and
• 24:44
  i've talked about that before i get those multi-nutrients and it is the same
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  company that i talked about last episode where my husband got the fat burn which he is taking.
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  And like I said, in the last episode, it was a 16 week study.
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  So we're not 16 weeks into it. I can't tell you how his results are.
• 25:01
  I can tell you that he hasn't had any, like he doesn't feel weird or anything.
• 25:04
  I took one and I felt a little jittery. I'm super, super, super caffeine sensitive
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  and it does have some caffeine in it.
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  So I didn't need it. I just wanted to know like, what does it do for me?
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  So I'm not going to be taking it again, but it is super nice to have one company
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  where you can just log on, change your subscription, add things to it,
• 25:22
  subtract things to it, and you know that you're getting a really good foundation of health.
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  And that is one reason I love LifeVantage and that I will continue to talk about
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  their products because number one, they're amazing.
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  The NRF2 activator is different than anything else.
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  And I firmly believe that everybody should be on it because we all need less
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  pollution in ourselves. cells. We need to focus on our cells.
• 25:45
  And a multi-nutrient, if you don't already take something that is giving your
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  body the good variety that it needs of vitamins, minerals, adaptogens,
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  everything, then take a look at this one.
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  So head down to the show notes, click on the link, and you can just explore the store.
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  Like I said, I take the NRF2, NRF1, the TimeWise, I think it's called Rise AM
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  and Reset PM, the Brain Drink, the Axio, it helps my brain work,
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  which I absolutely need sometimes.
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  And then my husband is taking the fat burn. You can explore the store.
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  There's a lot of things in there that I absolutely love.
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  This has gone really long. Thank you for sticking with me. I hope that this
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  has been helpful in like helping you understand why your body might not be converting T4 to T3.
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  And hopefully now you have some extra questions that you can ask your doctor
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  or your provider and some extra things that you can do in order to help your
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  your body do what your body is supposed to do.
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  This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only.
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  Please be sure to discuss any concerns and plans with your trusted healthcare professional.
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  Music.