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Is RHOSLC the BEST housewife show? The FINALE recap · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Rain Drops.
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  Speaker 2: Reality with the King podcast is back on tour and
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  Speaker 2: my first stop is in Atlanta, Georgia on Monday, February third.
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  Speaker 2: Carlos King and married to medicine star doctor Heavily.
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  Speaker 1: This is a show you do not want to miss.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality the King.
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  Speaker 2: It's me Carlos Kings, the King of Reality TV and
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  Speaker 2: one of the most sought after executive producers in reality
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  Speaker 2: television with over ten years of production experience. Twice a
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  Speaker 2: week on Reality with the King, we'll sit down with
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  Speaker 2: my friends across the entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality
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  Speaker 2: shows and revisit unforgettable moments that we are still talking
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  Speaker 2: and tweeting about. Hey, rain Drops of today's episode of
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  Speaker 2: it up, y'all for Jack Peterson.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks for having me back.
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  Speaker 4: I love coming on here now.
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  Speaker 1: You are so fun to talk to.
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  Speaker 2: But before we get to the craziness of life, what's
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  Speaker 2: been happening in the world of house how are you?
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  Speaker 1: You're in La?
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  Speaker 2: The wildfires just have been you know, not the best
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  Speaker 2: way obviously to start the new year, especially for a
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  Speaker 2: lot of my California friends. But my listeners want to
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  Speaker 2: know this, and I'll be remiss not to ask you,
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  Speaker 2: although we already know personally, But how are you?
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  Speaker 3: Love?
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  Speaker 1: Everything's okay with you?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm good.
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  Speaker 3: I live next door to Runyan Canyon. It caught on fire,
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  Speaker 3: so that was a lot. I was actually watching The
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  Speaker 3: Housewives and Running Canyon was on fire next to me,
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  Speaker 3: and I didn't know, because you know, I have a Patreon.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, let me watch Housewives and prep for
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  Speaker 3: my Patreon. I had the blinds closed, I wasn't looking
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  Speaker 3: at the news. And then I get a call and
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  Speaker 3: he's like, hey, you know, look outside your window and
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  Speaker 3: it was a blazing inferno. But you know, I'm fine.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Australian, like I can deal with it. There's a
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  Speaker 3: lot of people here in LA that are like fleeing to,
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  Speaker 3: you know, their holiday home in Palm Springs because they're
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  Speaker 3: scared to breathe the ash in the air. It's like, girl,
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  Speaker 3: calm down, like if you didn't lose your house, Like
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  Speaker 3: you're fine, So we're good.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I'm happy to hear that you're good. Speaking
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  Speaker 2: of you being Australian. I was in Sydney for.
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  Speaker 4: A week no way what fall.
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  Speaker 2: So a friend of mine, her and her husband were
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  Speaker 2: there because he used to He's not Australian, but he
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  Speaker 2: used to live there, and they were going on like
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  Speaker 2: a trip and they're gonna see his parents. And I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna pronounce this wrong, so don't like, don't make fun
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  Speaker 2: of me, Jock is it adelaide?
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  Speaker 4: Adelaide?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, lady, Okay, I was close.
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  Speaker 2: I was close, at least I was close. So his family,
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  Speaker 2: his parents lived out there. So they went to Sydney
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  Speaker 2: for like a week, and I like bummed along and
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  Speaker 2: I love australly.
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  Speaker 1: Sydney is so gorgeous.
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  Speaker 2: I was there back in twenty ten for work but
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  Speaker 2: I didn't get a chance to, like, you know, like
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  Speaker 2: enjoying myself.
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  Speaker 1: But my love, you and all of the off seas
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  Speaker 1: are just amazing.
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  Speaker 3: I love it's kind of like a clean La Sydney.
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  Speaker 1: It kind of gave you that.
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  Speaker 2: And it's funny because it kind of gave that city vibe,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And the I mean, listen,
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about all this shit, but like the.
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  Speaker 1: Food, how do you.
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  Speaker 3: Job?
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  Speaker 1: The food is amazed.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like I'm addicted to American food now. Last night, girl,
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  Speaker 3: I had California Pizza Kitchen. Then I got the Lana
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  Speaker 3: del Ray shake from Mels drive in delivered. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I had a few gummies, so I had the munchies.
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  Speaker 4: So you know, I'm loving the American food. It's gonna
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  Speaker 4: put me in an early grave, but you know, it
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  Speaker 4: is what it is.
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  Speaker 1: Well, no, we don't want you to die of jock.
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  Speaker 2: We need you and your opinion to be around for
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  Speaker 2: a very long time. So look, let's get auto to
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  Speaker 2: like the Housewives Housekeeping for the week.
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  Speaker 1: You are catching up on Potomac.
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  Speaker 2: I unfortunately am so behind Potomac, but I kind of
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  Speaker 2: know what's going on, So we know that they tipped
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  Speaker 2: the reunion.
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  Speaker 1: Karen wasn't there. She's in a recovery center.
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  Speaker 2: Her manager released the statement, we're hearing that there is
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  Speaker 2: some big moment happening that's going to happen. Excuse me
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  Speaker 2: on the season finale? What is going off with Potomac,
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  Speaker 2: Jock that you can tell us and share with us,
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  Speaker 2: because I, unfortunately have been so busy in Australia, I'm
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  Speaker 2: behind on a lot of episodes.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I love Potomac this season, and I almost feel
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  Speaker 3: like I'm the only one. I mean, I thought you
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  Speaker 3: were my sister in Potomac standing, but now you're not
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  Speaker 3: even up to date with it.
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  Speaker 2: But not because it isn't good. Not because it isn't good.
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  Speaker 2: I okay, it's it's listen. This is what's so sad about,
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  Speaker 2: Like the holidays coming around, you travel, you're on vacation,
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  Speaker 2: you're busy.
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  Speaker 1: So that's the only reason.
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  Speaker 2: But I am your sister in Potomac because I love
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  Speaker 2: the show and I'm loving this season. And so what
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  Speaker 2: are people saying about this season that they're not loving
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  Speaker 2: so much? Besides Mia storyline, which I have a lot
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  Speaker 2: to say about that.
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  Speaker 3: Well, everyone hates Mia so much and hates her story. Look,
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  Speaker 3: it's getting a little crazy. I've been on the you know,
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  Speaker 3: I feel like people kind.
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  Speaker 4: Of overreacting a little bit to me as stuff.
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  Speaker 3: I think sometimes when a season isn't as dramatic that
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  Speaker 3: then people kind of like tend to latch onto things
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  Speaker 3: and like blow them up and make them bigger than
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  Speaker 3: they really are. I'm just like kind of having fun
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  Speaker 3: watching that. People seem very triggered by Mia, But I
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  Speaker 3: will say the last episode between her and Jacqueline like
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  Speaker 3: it was getting a little much because it's like every
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  Speaker 3: single episode now they're talking about you know, remember years
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  Speaker 3: ago when Jacqueline first came on the show, they caught
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  Speaker 3: her and Mia in the shower together famlessly. Well, they
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  Speaker 3: keep like every episode there's a new revelation about like
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  Speaker 3: them having sex with each other or sharing men, or
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  Speaker 3: Mia got a man ready for Jacqueline and then she
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  Speaker 3: finished him off, and then it goes like like.
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  Speaker 2: A madam getting getting a man ready for Jacqueline like
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  Speaker 2: that sense.
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  Speaker 3: Well, no, they went out and they picked up a
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  Speaker 3: guy and apparently Jacqueline was a little nervous or something,
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  Speaker 3: so me it was like, let me warm him up
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  Speaker 3: for you and like, you know, get you in the mood.
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  Speaker 3: So she got him started, so then Jacqueline could come
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  Speaker 3: and finish the job.
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  Speaker 4: And it's a lot of TMO, a lot of TMI.
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  Speaker 4: And then the last episode.
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  Speaker 3: I watched, which was last week's, was that Ashley, who
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  Speaker 3: was kind of open about being bisexual, and I think
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  Speaker 3: she and Michael were having threesomes and doing all kinds
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  Speaker 3: of crazy shenanigans during their marriage with.
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  Speaker 4: Men and women, you know.
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  Speaker 3: Every flavor in that world. Allegedly. Actually this scene, like
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  Speaker 3: Jacqueline's getting ready in the bathroom, Ashley walks in and
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  Speaker 3: she's like, you know, you know that I'm into women,
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  Speaker 3: Like why don't we kiss? And Jacqueline's like, and they
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  Speaker 3: had this whole conversation about how they've had like a
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  Speaker 3: thing for each other, and Jacqueline's like, yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I've been feeling you too.
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  Speaker 4: I think you're really beautiful, but I don't want Maa
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  Speaker 4: to get jealous, and.
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  Speaker 5: As she's like, let's just try it, and then they
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  Speaker 5: make out, and then they go to dinner later that night,
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  Speaker 5: and then it comes up and then like me is
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  Speaker 5: getting all jealous, and then.
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  Speaker 4: Ashley and Jacqueline are like making out again.
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  Speaker 3: At the table and I'm like, Okay, this is like
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  Speaker 3: Jocelyn Yes in front.
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  Speaker 2: Of a Wait, wait, hold on, because I love Joscelyn
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  Speaker 2: Hernandez from Love and Hip Hop and Josin's Cabaret on
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  Speaker 2: zeus is comical? Is the best show on zeus? You're
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  Speaker 2: telling me it's not a Joshin's cabaret?
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  Speaker 1: Is giving what.
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  Speaker 3: Karen's cabaret, Giselle's cabaret? Something's going on Ashley's cabaret. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: these girls are like cooking up with each other and
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  Speaker 3: it's it's a lot, but I like it. I think
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  Speaker 3: the show had the necessary shift that it needed. It's
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  Speaker 3: a lighter energy, Like, yes, it's messy, but it doesn't
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  Speaker 3: feel like really dog and twisted. But I did see
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  Speaker 3: an interview and I can't remember who it was with,
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  Speaker 3: but they think that like Mia and Jacqueline have like
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  Speaker 3: making everything up, that they're like conspiring together to be
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  Speaker 3: like let's come on camera and then start talking about
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  Speaker 3: doing all these outrageous things together and it's going to
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  Speaker 3: get us attention. But like, I don't know, I'm very confused.
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  Speaker 3: I'm I don't know. I like it.
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  Speaker 1: Listen.
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  Speaker 2: I think I love me. I'm a Miya Stan. That's
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  Speaker 2: never going to change. I think that's who Mia is
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  Speaker 2: and that's who Jacqueline is. I don't I can't see
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  Speaker 2: two women who have a history of friendship.
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  Speaker 1: And when Jacqueline came on her.
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  Speaker 2: First season two seasons ago, and you saw her visibly
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  Speaker 2: upset when her and Mia got into it, you can't
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  Speaker 2: fake that chemistry, you can't take that friendship. I don't
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  Speaker 2: see them making up, cooking up with men with each
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  Speaker 2: other as the way of getting attention, because it doesn't.
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  Speaker 1: Make them both look great in the eye of the public.
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  Speaker 2: And Jacqueline, listen, I think the owns everything that she
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  Speaker 2: can remember. That's why I called her mea be Lyon.
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  Speaker 2: But I think Jacqueline is a little bit more And
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  Speaker 2: this may sound strange, but Jacqueline today gives me a
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  Speaker 2: little bit more conservative and I just don't think she
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  Speaker 2: would be making stuff up either.
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  Speaker 1: I believe everything they're saying.
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  Speaker 2: I think, listen, we all to look back in our
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  Speaker 2: twenties and be like, to our best friend, we did
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  Speaker 2: some crazy shit, and I think these two women did
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  Speaker 2: some crazy shit, and Mia is willing to put it
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  Speaker 2: out there, and I'm willing to watch it because it's
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  Speaker 2: real reality.
• 10:36
  Speaker 3: It's a good season. It's underrated. Karen skipping the reunion,
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  Speaker 3: so when that news came out, I was like, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: well she's getting fired. But then it came out that
• 10:49
  Speaker 3: she's going to rehab, and that seems to be the
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  Speaker 3: one that seems to be the one way you're able
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  Speaker 3: to skip a reunion. If you say you had to
• 10:55
  Speaker 3: go to rehab, that seems to be the clause. Because
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  Speaker 3: I think Luanne did that. I think him did that.
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  Speaker 1: It's a good it's a good doctor's note.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, so I think probably we'll see Karen back.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, I feel like the show has just got
• 11:11
  Speaker 4: its juice back. Stacey's fantastic.
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  Speaker 3: I think Stacy's the most her best new edition of
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  Speaker 3: the year, along with Bronwyn and Yeah, fans were behind
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  Speaker 3: it a bit more.
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: Well, listen, you and I and the fans are behind
• 11:26
  Speaker 2: the real house about the Billy Hills. This season, it's
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  Speaker 2: been a fantastic season. This past episode where Sutton is
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: clocked in and the fact that can we talk about
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: the fact that she brought up Mauricio's infidelity in front
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: of Kyle and and doubled down on it. I took
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  Speaker 2: that as listen, nine to two one zero is a
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: small town in the grand scheme of things, right, it
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: appears that the rumor of Mauricio cheating for the first
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: time even for me and I want to get your
• 12:09
  Speaker 2: thoughts on the job. But for the first time in
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  Speaker 2: this episode, I was like, could there be some validity
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  Speaker 2: to this because Sutton's bravery of bringing it up in
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  Speaker 2: a way that she felt like, well, Kyle, you kind
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: of let us know at the reunion, and it's kind
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  Speaker 2: of an thing. You guys are divorcing, so they we
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  Speaker 2: really have to keep this a secret anymore. Did you
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  Speaker 2: Did you get that sense from that too?
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  Speaker 3: No, I think you're almost giving someton too much credit,
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  Speaker 3: being like her bravery like bring It's like girls, Sutton
• 12:41
  Speaker 3: and Garsel are both a hot mess and they will
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  Speaker 3: bring up anything to throw anybody under the bus for
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  Speaker 3: a storyline and a moment as long as it won't
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  Speaker 3: be on them. So I will say that, well, because
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  Speaker 3: it happened twice actually this episode, which we'll get into,
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  Speaker 3: but when Gaso, when if you want to be a lesbian,
• 12:58
  Speaker 3: be a lesbian to Kyle and then and Sutton's moment
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  Speaker 3: was the infidelity. I was howling laughing when Sutton brought
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  Speaker 3: up the infidelity and Kyle's reaction. Kyle's like, who had infidelity?
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  Speaker 3: And She's like, you did, No, I didn't.
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  Speaker 4: What do you mean?
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  Speaker 3: I watched?
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  Speaker 4: I watched the after show and very interesting.
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  Speaker 3: Kyle kind of breaks the fourth wall in the after
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  Speaker 3: show with that moment about the infidelity and the moment
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  Speaker 3: when Garcel said, if you want to be a lesbian,
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  Speaker 3: be a lesbian. Kyle was on the after show going, look,
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  Speaker 3: they wanted to get a reaction out of me. They
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  Speaker 3: wanted to get a moment out of me. That's why
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  Speaker 3: they brought those things up and said it on camera.
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  Speaker 3: And I know they wanted me to react and I didn't,
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  Speaker 3: And that's why you do see that weird reaction from
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  Speaker 3: Kyle where she kind of clams up and she's like,
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  Speaker 3: who had infidelity? No?
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  Speaker 4: I didn't, and then like.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of like moves on from like a robot, and
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  Speaker 3: she sweeps it under with Garcell as well.
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  Speaker 4: She like changes the subject. So look, I think.
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  Speaker 3: It's very interesting watching Kyle not be the queen Bee
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  Speaker 3: for once and not have the power over that group
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  Speaker 3: that she once had because when you saw that scene
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  Speaker 3: of her going to visit Bows while Bows was sprawled
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  Speaker 3: out in bed looking like a queen with her hair
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  Speaker 3: and makeup done after the fibroid surgery and strategically laid
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  Speaker 3: out in that bed is so glamorous and stunning, and
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: Kyle kind of saunters in and is trying to give
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  Speaker 3: her her side of the dere feud. I'm like, oh,
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: Kyle's like scrambling. Kyle is on the bottom of the
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  Speaker 3: pile now and now she's got to go around try
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  Speaker 3: and like rally the troops onto her side, and it's
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  Speaker 3: not working. And she's like hanging out now with garcel
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  Speaker 3: and Sutton because she has nobody else but Garcela and
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: Sutton are like throwing her under the bus every five
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  Speaker 3: seconds and then talking shit about her in their confessionals.
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  Speaker 3: But Kyle like has to hang out with them because
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: she's not really clicking with the So that's someone's interesting
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  Speaker 3: thing to me.
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing, listen.
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  Speaker 2: I agree with you in the sense of Kyle is
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: running out of friends quote unquote on camera TV friends
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  Speaker 2: to film with. Lisa Renna is gone, and despite Lisa,
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  Speaker 2: Renna and Kathy getting into it. Kyle appreciated what Lisa
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: Renna brought to the show, and in my opinion, I
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: never looked at her. I'm sorry, I never looked at
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: Kyle and Lisa's friendship as like, oh, this is just
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  Speaker 2: for TV.
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  Speaker 1: I think they really enjoyed each other.
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  Speaker 2: And I think Kyle knew that Lisa Renna is doing
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: her job and I can't be mad at it, which
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: is why she had her back in Amsterdam over her sister.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: Kims like, that's that Erica. You would think would be
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  Speaker 2: second in command to a real friendship. But Erica was like, no,
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: I really do like Drea and and Erica are the
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  Speaker 2: best duo of the show this season and who I
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  Speaker 2: love and can take.
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  Speaker 1: You're one thousand percent right.
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  Speaker 2: Kyle has no real friends on this show, or should
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  Speaker 2: I say any friends. To be honest with you, that's
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: and that's what you can see this season.
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  Speaker 1: I love Kyle.
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  Speaker 2: And I know you do too. I'm gonna be honest.
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  Speaker 2: I don't like.
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  Speaker 1: That Kyle is in being honest about things. When you're
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: the queen Bee of the.
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  Speaker 2: Show, like a Nini Leeks of Bethany Frankaul Right, sure,
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  Speaker 2: you get a pass with certain things. You do, you
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean, just out of the your the
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: senior already that you have. But Kyle has two major storylines.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: She's allegedly in a lesbian relationship with Morgan and number two,
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  Speaker 2: you're going through a separation because they're not they're not
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: going through a legal divorce at this point, So a
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  Speaker 2: legal separation with the man that we were introduced for
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  Speaker 2: fifteen years ago.
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  Speaker 1: Who we like and we believe in the love.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't like it personally when the cast is like, oh,
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: she wanted to, I'm not going to give it to her,
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  Speaker 2: and it's like, it's less about giving Sutton a moment
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  Speaker 2: or guardsella moment, It's more about giving the show a
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  Speaker 2: moment of real conversation. So I would have preferred if
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: Kyle to been like, you're pushing it.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: Stop. I know what you're trying to do, and I
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: don't like it.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: And the way Kyle isn't being as forthcoming I listen,
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: I love her to pieces. I'm not feeling it this
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: season because I want more from her and the worst
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: of Lisa Vanda pump Heavy is the head that bruhs
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: the crown and when you are the Queen Bee of
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: the show. The crown is heavy and you have to
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: wear it and you have to own it.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and when you just said that the way she
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: should have responded to Sutton, It's like she had that
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: response on the after show.
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: It's like, girl, why are you.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: Giving that to the after show on YouTube instead of
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: giving it to the cameras for the main show. And look,
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: everyone knows that I'm no fan of Sutton and Girl.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: I mean, I just say right through and I have
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: from day one. But the thing is like, when you're
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: a reality stop. I heard someone say this. It might
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: have been La La, but they said, your job as
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: a reality start it's actually to one speak your mind
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: and be unfiltered, but also to react to things. It's
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: like if something look, sometimes something happens to us in
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: real life, right, and it might annoy us, but we'll
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: just brush it aside and be like, you know what,
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: it's not worth it. But like, if you're on a
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: show being paid this money and there's cameras, you have
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: to have that reaction to it and be annoyed. And
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: you can't just be like, I'm not going to give
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: you a moment, because not only okay, I get that
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: you don't want like to give this life. But it's like,
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: that's what you're being paid for, and that's what the
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: fans want to know, and we want to see you
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: address it, even if the way that you're addressing it
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: is how Erica Jane addressed it a few years ago
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: when she went.
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: Off on everybody.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean, Like, Erica Jane wasn't like
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: I'm just going to be quiet and not give you
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: a moment. She was like, fuck you, like you know.
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: He shut the yes to such, shut the fuck up
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: literally and literally said which I was like, Erica, that's
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: not great to say, but hey, you're honest.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: And and but that's why I love, I love and
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: stand for Erica Jane.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: When she said what about me? Like what? And Kyle's like,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: don't say that.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: That's indefensible, And it's like, but that's her reality and
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: that's her truth. Then why are we being mad at
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: someone's truth. You could disagree with it, don't get me wrong,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: but don't shut her. Don't shut up somebody who's telling
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: you their truth. And and and that's the only thing
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: that I'm not liking this season with Kyle. However, it
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: goes to show the cast. All of you women underestimated
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: the power of the read. The read telling everybody including
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: the milkman that p K is an.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Alcoholic and she's smoking in the car.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Speaking of interviews, Erica Jane did the interview recently and
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: she said, we are new to re smoke and she
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: smoked for years, but I was shot she did it
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: on camera. I think there has no fus the gift
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: and we're all rallying for the red because she's giving
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: us real and I need these other women to carry
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: that torch that she has right now.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, I do think that there are a
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: couple of scenes that I've seen where I'm like, Duried's
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: keeping it real, but she's also like amping it up
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: for television purposes.
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: But it's also like that's your job.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Like I don't think she's I don't think she's here's
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: a difference. I don't think Darida is fabricating something out
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: of thin air. It's an issue that she had and
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: then she's heightening it for television purposes. But it's still
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: a real issue. So even though maybe she's gone a
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: little over the top in some points, like it's real
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: as opposed to some people to come on and just
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: make something up out of thin air. So Durida is
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: absolutely killing at her and Bose's friendship is my favorite
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: thing ever.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: Like, I just love watching her and bows.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: I pray that they remain friends for seasons to come.
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: I do wonder though, like how.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: Much Bose really likes to read and how much was
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: just I don't know. I think Bose is a very
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: smart woman. I think she saw a lot was going
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: on around to read, and he played her cards.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Well, child, we are just getting started. This is reality
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: with the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: into the show.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Listen. What I will say is.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: You can see the genuine curiosity that I think Bowse
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: has with the reap, and I think a lot of
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: that had to do with Listen, I love to read.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: I think was very very.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Master mindful, if I could make up a word in
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: befriending Dery as hard as she has because obviously, you know,
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: she wanted the world to see like look, I like, everybody,
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: don't don't call me, you know racist whatever.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so befriending Bose because of what had happened
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: with Gossel.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think the moment she met her obviously,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: and listen, I think Dery was like, let me get
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: to know her more. And I think Bowse I listen.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: I think both liked refreshingly honest people. And I think
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: the moment Durit said Hey, I'm Derey, my husband's alcoholic,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: I have two kids, I think Boss was like, now
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: you're my type of chick, because no one else on
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: that cast is going to give that level of honesty
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: on the first meeting. And one thing that I constantly
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: see from Bowse is she isn't picking anybody side.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: She really is on the side of right.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: And that's the difference between her and the other friendships
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: we see on the show that I questioned both isn't
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: befriitting the read because she needs somebody.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: I think she really liked her and by default, like she.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Tells me, her business was not to like and when
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: it came to the other girls, she's like, but no,
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: that's what she said. She actually said that, Or like, well, Kyle,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: you text PK what that's not?
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Okay, what do you think about the text?
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: So what do I think of the text? Okay? Look,
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: I know that there was nothing. I know there's nothing
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: shady going on with Kyle and p K. I believe
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: that when they split, she just sent that one text
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: because they were already friends and stuff. But I understand
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: why it looks bad and now here's the thing when
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: you're and Kyle actually should know this because being on
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: the Housewives of Beverly Hills is like playing chess and
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: it's warfare and every little thing can be just sect
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: and spun into a storyline, and Kyle kind of should
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: have understood ahead of time, like, don't say that it's
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: just memes and then go and read the text out
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: on camera and it's not memes, because then everyone's going
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: to say that you're a liar and they're going to
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: blow this into something bigger than it really is. Like, really,
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: it's one text that you sent when the breakup happened,
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: and that's it. But now, of course it's going to
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: snowball into something. So I just think that she didn't
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: play very smart, maybe because she's just got a lot
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: on her Maybe she feels like her back is against
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: the wall and she's not used to being in this position.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: She's not used to being at the bottom of the pile,
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: and it's the first time that she's finding herself not
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: wielding the power, because definitely since Lisa vander Pump left
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: and she was able to successfully get rid of LVP,
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: Kyle has just sort of like rained over this show.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: And yeah, now I think it's like she's making mistakes.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: So instead of bottom of the pile, is the bottom
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: of the Kyle.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: That could be.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: For sure.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Actually I'm gonna make it that, So there you go.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: The thing is this.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: I would have preferred, And you're one thousand percent right.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Kyle isn't used to somebody on that show having the
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: balls to challenge her. And I think when it came
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: through the text, she was called off guard, and I
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: think she answered immediately without thinking about like, oh shit,
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: let me look back and see what I said to
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: this man before I just make shut up. I think
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: memes was like just a quick answer to shut everyone down.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Do I think how for a second is sending anything
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: inappropriate to pk A's a freaking litely not right, And
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: to be honest with you, I think KYLEYA was just
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: being like, oh, he's our mutual friend whatever, and me
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: and dere aren't great right now, so like it wasn't
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: a big deal. And I do think Kyle never ever
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: saw it being a big deal until she was approached
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: by it, so that's that. However, when she showed the screenshot,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: because Kyle's Kyle, I think she knew, let me show
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: this first before dere shows at the reunion to where
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: I will look like a liar. So Kyle had to
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: get in front of it before de Reed got it
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: from PK because.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: She is still playing small thing because I was saying
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: she's not and Minu it's like nor she is actually,
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: Oh oh, Kyle.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Smart, she knew, let me get in front of it
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: before the big revealed after reunion comes from de Rey saying,
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: you actually was not texting my husband the memes. You
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: was actually texting him whatever.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: Yea.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: I think Kyle had to get in front of it unfortunately,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: because she doubled down only being memes and it was
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: actually like a fucking word document text from chat GPT.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: It's just it doesn't look good and I think listen, Kyle,
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: if you're listening or your team is listening, I think
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: you have to understand that when you are the queen
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Bee and take this for somebody who worked with Nannie
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Leeks and Teresa Judais. One thing that I always encourage
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Nini and Teresa and it wasn't like they wouldn't do
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: it because they're naturally amazing and great stars. Is girl,
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: tell your truth before someone else does. And that's what
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Kyle has to do. This Morgan Wade shit, This Kyle split,
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: I mean Kyle Mauricio split and not the PK text
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: is too many clouds of doubt around it and Kyle
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: needs to learn that you have to get in front
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: of it and tell your own truth before somebody else does.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's like, why are you staying on this show?
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: Then after fifteen years or however long she's been on it,
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: If now you're not actually going to share about your
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: life yet? Know what?
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: Like you're making me.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: Look, I'm just watching the season and loving it and
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: actually loving everybody on it. Everyone's clocking in, I'm having
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: a good time, And now that I'm talking to you
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: and reflecting on it, I am a bit like, yeah, KRL,
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: what the fuck? Like girl spill or get out of here.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: And the thing with Kyle is to if she did
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: come through and she was look, if she was having
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: a let's mention it all season like deret is, the
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: audience would so rally around her and love her and
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: be so into it, Like can you imagine if Kyle
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: sat down had the conversation about here is my true
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: feelings for Morgan Wade and everything that happened, and here
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: is why Mauricio and I are separating. People would love
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: her and instead she's the most unpopular she's been in
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: a very long time. And Derete, who just a year
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: ago people saying needed to be fired because of microaggressions
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: or whatever, as suddenly like beloved and uh yeah, Kyle's
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: not playing it well. I'm actually curious how what is
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: Kyle next season gonna be? Like, So is Kyle gonna
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: see the reaction to this and go, Okay, I'm gonna
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: come into this open like DERI was. Or is she
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: gonna like could she walk away from the show?
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: One or two things have to happen.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: And I'm being very honest here, and this is coming
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: from a Kyle Richard's stand. Okay, if she doesn't want
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: because it's her choice. If Kyle doesn't want to enter
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: next season and give her honest to god truth about
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Morgan and Mauricio, she.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Should take the She should just leave.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: The show because it's I'm ana and this is this
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: is my my point. Imagine Teresa Judais saying to the world, Yeah,
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: I just do want to talk about Louie, like I
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: just I know you guys have all of these questions
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: about the videos and the stuff you've seen ex girlfriend
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: and the I just don't want to I want to
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: remain in my love bubble and I want to focus
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: on my four daughters. We would be like, excuse me,
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: you're the queen Bee of the show, like you, what
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: are we talking about here? And that's how we're all
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: feeling about Kyle. It's one of those things where we
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: didn't make.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Up Morgan Wade.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: We didn't pick her out of a cherry, picking out
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: of the garden.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Like you brought on the show.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: You showed us getting matching tattoos with this woman. You
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: brought Maurice on this show. You showed us you guys,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: you know, having fun. You give him a lap dance,
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: You're doing the splits at a white party, like these
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: are things you showed us. So when things aren't great,
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: you can't then choose to say, what's my personal life?
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: And it's like since when?
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: And you would think, listen, no one on that show
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: has ever in the history of the Real Housewives, and
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Billy Hills had a tough season like Erica Jane. And
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Erica Jane was herself and she was true and she
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: said things that we all were like, girl, know if
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: that's true? Girl is known like a blizzard Pasadena. Girl,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Like wait, what's going on?
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Girl?
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: We were all questioning it, but it was her truth
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: and we all love her earth and she gained more
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: fans than haters when it was all said and done
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: because in the end she kind of is midicated, do
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean?
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: So I say this now, people love Erica Cup. People
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: are loving to read because they're like, wait, you smoke cigarettes? Girl? Okay, wait,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: what's going on with you in PK? Wait? Wait what's
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: huh you're coming for?
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: Wait?
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Wait what you're telling you're calling milk? The C word
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: is saying you want a moment. That's what Kyle should
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: have gave Son of Garcel. You guys want a moment.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: It's because your storylines is like read the girls, don't
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: sit things be like and get you know what I mean?
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: Like Ky actually went off, Sorry to cut you off now,
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: just like imagining, like if she snapped at something in
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: that moment and just went off with her, Like, girl,
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: you do this to everybody. You were kicking people when
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: they are down. You are always trying to bring people
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: stuff up, like let's talk about you, let's talk about
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: your drinking, let's talk about your and like throw it
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: back at her and just eviscerate her.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: I mean that would have been a moment instead of
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: just sitting there going what infidelity?
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: Who had infidelity?
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: No?
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: I didn't like no, no no no right no no
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: no no no.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: So again, the only way Kyle is going to win
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: in this game of reality television.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: In twenty twenty five, you gotta.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Follow the playbook of Teresa of Dread of aka Jane,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: and you have to give the truth. And if you're
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: not willing to do that, then fine, this is your
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: real life.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Then take a break from the show.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: But it's not fair for the audience who's been in
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: bed with you, no pun intended for fifteen years, and
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: we're being cheapened by that because when you have girls
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: like the Salt like city women who are hungry and
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: they are giving their blood, sweat, tears and text messages
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: to each other that's the kind of reality TV we
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: want like that segway.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: O.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: I was like, yes, call me, call me with you Goldberg, Hodeye.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: I am a great moderator, thank you, and this is
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: what my view. Okay, so here we go.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you something about me and my family.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: I'm teasing. Let me tell you something.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Hi Caroline Manziel, who, by the way, send me a
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: sweet text the other day.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: I mean a few weeks ago.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: Hi.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: No, I love Caroline Manzel. Hi Carolina Manzel, Happy New Year.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: Okay, Patre doesn't like her. Sorry to cut you off,
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: but I interviewed Patre the other day and I asked
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: her about Ultimate Girl's Trip, and she was saying it's
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: one of the best things they've ever filmed. She started,
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: I didn't even bring up Brandy because I was trying
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: to keep it very professional, not bring up anything too spicy,
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: and she brought up Brandy on her own and was
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: totally defending Brandy and saying how amazing Brandy is, and
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: that I think she called what Caroline did fictitious drama
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: or something like that. So she's very on team Brandy
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: and the whole cast, and very upset that the season's
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: not airing, so thanks for that, Caroline.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: If you're listening, oh well, listen.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: There's two sides of every story, and maybe one day
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: we'll hear both. Maybe maybe I will sign up for
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: that pay per view. Thank you so much, job. And
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: this is coming from me. Okay, the Real Housewives of
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Salt Lake City, and I'm gonna be very honest here.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: It's a show I did not want to like, and
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: I'm not a hater. I just I was sort of
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be very honest with you. So when the
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: show was person announced, I was like Salt Lake City
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: like whatever, like who you know what I mean?
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: It was very this is me like who cares?
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: I don't care because it was so many.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: Housewives coming from the guy that does shows in like
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: Huntsville and stuff. You're like, Scot like, even though you've
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: read this huge show in Huntsville.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: That's the perfect clap back. That is amazing.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: I have the biggest show, the number one show on
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: called Love and Marriage Huntsville, Pelabama, and here I am
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: like slig City, who cares?
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: So I was just like I'm busy, I don't have
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: time whatever? And then I saw gen Shaw and I
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: was like, well, she's interesting. Then I saw Mary Cosma.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: I'm like, well she's interesting, and then all of my
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: rain drops said carlos Ley, watch it. So I watched
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: season one before season two started it, I'm like, what
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: a bad show.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Then I watched season two.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Amaze, right, like amazing, and then long story short, I'm like,
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna watch anymore. Gen Shawn's going to jail.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna waste my time. So I didn't watch
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: season three a lot of it. Then season four happened
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: and Monica Garcia came on, and all the rains drops Jock,
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: including you and our friend a Liza Rosen was like,
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: you have to watch Salt Lake City. This Monica girl
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: is amazed. I started watching it, fell in love with it.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: Monica's gone from the show, so I'm like, I'm not
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: watching season five. I watched the first episode. I thought
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: it was performative. Once again, the rain drop set you
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: gotta watch it. This Brahm and the woman is everything.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: I'm like, leave me alone, I'm busy the real housewatch
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: is so City.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Is one of the best shows on TV.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: And I'm gonna say this without seeing the reunion so
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: I'm only gonna talk about this season. The Real Housewives
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: of Salt Lake City is tied with the Real Housewives
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: of Orange County as the best on Bravo.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: It's I I'm a.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Fan, and those women work hard and every Housewives franchise
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: that is New York City, Potomac.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Watch Salt Lake City. These women are hungry and they
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: want to be the best. And that finale was superb
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: tense across the board.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: And before I'll let you speak, Jock shout out to
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: the producer. Whoever came I don't think it was Heather,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: and I'm gonna say that on the record, I don't
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: think I don't think the Heather.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Came up with this.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Whoever came up with the idea of these women reading
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: the most vicious text they said about each other. That
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: is the most genius thing I have seen on the
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Real Housewives in the past five years.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: Okay, well, I have so much to say. I'm gonna say,
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: first of all, I do think Heather came up with
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: that game, because Heather is so obsessed with like Bravo
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: and pop culture, like to the point if you remember
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: on the really boring Thailand Ultimate Girls Trip, she even
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: read like Leah McSweeney's biography, like she'll read all the
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: Housewives biographies, like you know, she has her little Oscar
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: speeches were husted before. I mean that fucking speech that
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: she gave the end.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: But that's the reason.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: But Jock, that's the reason I was like, listen, Heather Gay,
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: I give props to due.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: She is so performative.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: But for some reason, I'm not every bad at it
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: because it provides something as amazing as that text.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: Well, go ahead, she She's fucking incredible, like the whole cast.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: And I will say that.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think Salt Lake City from seasons four
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: to five packaged together, it's I mean it's ascended Bravo,
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: Like it's literally like you could rank that up there
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: with like the if you're ranking all the best shows
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: that have been on TV, like Succession and like White
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: Lotus and all the HBO shows, like you can put
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: it up there like it is that fucking good. And
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: I also want to apologize because I was a hater
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: of Salt Lake for many years, like you were. I
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: never bought into the hype when Bravo rolled it out,
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: and I was kind of thinking about it because now
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: that I've been so obsessed with seasons four and five.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: I'm going back and I'm watching all these clips from
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: seasons one, two, three, and I'm like loving it. And
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: I think that like salt Lake came out at a
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: weird time, but think it premiered right as the pandemic
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: was hitting, and it was just like a big shift
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: in Bravo programming because one through COVID, the audience and
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: the social media exploded where it became all about the
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: Instagram and the memes, the and the blogs and the
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: podcasts and stuff. And I think the women were becoming
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: a lot more self aware across the board, and it
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: was just like Housewives as a franchise was entering kind
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: of a new era and there was some like teething pains,
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: and I think I just kind of took me a
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: minute to kind of like get what salt Lake was
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: and to understand the tone and the campiness of it
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: and that they are a lot more self aware, and yes,
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: it is like more produced, and now that I'm there,
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, I mean, it blew me away. And
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: I never thought they could top season four with Monica,
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: Like I thought the season would probably be pretty good,
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: but I was just like, how do you? And I
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: agreed with them getting I agreed with them getting rid
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: of Monica. I know that you didn't originally, but I
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: was like, no, they have to because like it's the
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: same with how they had to get rid of a
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: Lexus on Oc like love Alexis, love Monica, but like
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: you're just going to repeat the same shit again if
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: you don't remove this huge personality, Like you absolutely have
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: to do it. But I'm like, how can they even
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: like how could they even come close to season four?
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: They talked season full? Season five was better, Like I
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: was shocked, like braun One, like Britney, like every.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: Honey and honey, Honey, Honey, honey honey, brahmin tance across
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: the board.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: Brittany.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: I love Britney ten because she's a this is the
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: compliment Brittany.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: In punching Bag and and kind of a whack of dude.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: But like in the best way possible. But I'm gonna
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: tell you who my favorite is. You're about to gag.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: Angie k is something I've never seen on TV. She
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: her facial reactions is priceless. The moment between her and
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: Mary where Mary, I mean, listen, Mary is the goat, right,
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: I love the whole Okay, Carlos, calm down, Calm down,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: go one by one, you're too excited.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: Calm down, girl. Okay.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: Look, Angie K is something I've never seen on TV before.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: I am obsessed with her.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: She is beautiful, she's funny, she's vulnerable, she can check you,
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: she reads the girls, she's shady. She the moment pything
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: her and Mary where she was like you changed my
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: life and I was like, what was happening? And I
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: believed it. I believed it. Mary crying about it.
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: It was.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, ANGIEK with a high body count, like and
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: I got a chance to meet her. Two jock when
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: I say to you, I met her at this Kathy
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: Hilton thing, and she's better in person in the sense
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: of like, that's who she is. I met all this
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: Tartlake City House wishs except Meredith and Heather. They weren't there.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: Lisa Barlow, Whitney, Angie K, Mary Cosby, and Broadwind. There
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: are exactly in real life who they are on camera.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: And this cast is stellar.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: And I have not been impressed with a full cast
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: where they're all a players.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Since Potomac Season.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: I think Potomac season five, where like I felt like
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: that entire cast was hungry and the clocked in Sallect City.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: They want it and they deserve it, and it's fantastic
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: and I'm so proud of them as a producer because
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: when I look at the Sallect City cast, it's the
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: cast that every producer dreams of having.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: Well, everyone is there to work and do their job
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: and bleed for the show.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's like the same way that Bane pom
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: Rules used to do in the early seasons, like yeah,
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: I'm going to give you everything, and it's so much
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: harder to get that out of you know, women that
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: are a bit older, that are established, that have husbands
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: that have you know, if you're young and drinking and
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: partying and you want to be famous, of course you've
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: got to put it all out there, like the banda
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: Pump people did, but like to get housewives to do
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: it is a lot harder and also storylines aside, and
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: the storylines are incredible. The comedy is incredible. I like
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: Salt Lake the best as far as the fashion, because
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: there's you've got high fashion girls on there, but then
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: you have this like campiness to it, where like you
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: know Mary will wear something crazy or Bronen will wear
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: something crazy or whatever, and you know Angie with the
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: big sunglasses. But then it's against these beautiful snowy backdrop.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: So they'll come out in like hot pink with the
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: shades and it's like popping against the white snow.
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: It's just like everything just.
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: Looks so beautiful and like it just has it has everything.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, even like with Britney, you know, she was
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: a friend of and like, you know, she had like
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: one of the best moments of the season when Jared
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: showed up to that when she was on the date
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: with the other guy, and I was just like everything
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: about it, and yes, that coming up with the game
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: at the end to like, let's read the nastiest thing
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: we've ever said about each other on our phone.
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: And I do believe that Heather came.
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: Up with that because I had the thing's like a
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: producer and Heather even like she doesn't even hide it,
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: Like she goes in press interviews and she's like, yeah,
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: like this changed my life, Like now I actually feel
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: like I'm somebody. And like when she went on that
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: Girl's trip, she was like fangirling overre like she was
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: like on there like a fan. So I believe that
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: she wanted to outdo last season, and I think.
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: She was little wheels in her brain, but how do
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: I do this?
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: And she came up with that whole speech at the end,
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: and it was so forced, but it.
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: Was like real as well, you know what I mean.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: Like it's not like she was saying stuff that's untrue,
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: just everything.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: So everything, let's get into it. The moment that.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: The moment that Angie k gave Brahm and her phone
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: to read the text. The reason why I love Bronwyn
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: is because she's real and she's natural and she and
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: like you said, she bleeds the cast bleeds, but her
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: the way she bleeves is very different because she wasn't
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: even able to read it, you know, because she was
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: crying just by, you know, peeking at exactly what Angie
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: said about her. I mean, the shit that Angie said
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: about I don't want to be a trumpy wife like her,
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: the fact that her husband has one foot in the
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: grape and another on a banana peel.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: Angie's so mean. Here's something that I've been saying for
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: a while is I love Angie by the way, So
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: this isn't even shade to Angie, but it's like Angie's
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: definitely letting the popularity go to her head and she
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: clearly has a very very mean side, and she's just
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: going to have a big fall from Grace at some point.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: Like that's a prediction, yes, And I also my other prediction,
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: and I think it's actually already starting to come true.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: But when the season started, everyone was hating Heather and
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: they were like, why does she have this thing against Bronwyn?
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: And now I think that we're getting towards the end
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: people asking how messy Bronwyn is. And I really think
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: the Head is going to be very vindicated in that
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: her original assessment of Bronwin kind of being calculated in
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: two faced, is going to prove to be correct. So
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: those are my two predictions.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: What is your prediction on Let me tell you something.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: I want Lisa Burlow on every show in the world.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: I listen the whole I'm listen, producer, Kaz all you
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: guys get a gold Star the whole, Like game of
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: everybody dressed up as Lisa was hilarious.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: The fact that.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: Whitney, by the way, Whitney, you are gorgeous, but baby
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: Aza Brunette stunning like gorgeous, right, but the.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: Fact that.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: Jock she kept a tag on her outfit and then
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: purposely walked away and Lisa immediately caught it. Let me
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: tell you someth about Lisa Barrolow and why Lisa Brallo
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: is amazing and a queen. The stuff that Lisa Bralo
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: says could be seen as like not problematic and the
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: like the consciousness, but more so like okay, girl, you
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: are beautiful, you are wealthy, but we don't talk about it.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: I want the fact that she's like, no, bitch, I'm
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: gonna talk about it. So the fact that she's dissing
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: Whitney and her status in the world, her businesses, talks
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: about how she has everything and when we get to
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: the dinner table and Whitney, which, by the way, great play, Whitney,
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: because you could have found a safer text the way
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: that Lisa found a safer text with Mayor, because Lisa,
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: I love you. But girl, by, if you think for
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: one second, that's the meanest shit in your text, girl
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: By anyways, Whitney was like I'm gonna get you, bitch,
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: one way or the other. The accusation that Lisa Barlow
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: is in some sort of like three summer relationship with
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: her husband and that there's things happening to where he's
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: getting This is an explicit podcast of mothers, fathers, Hi,
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: the kids.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: Put the HiPhones on the whole jerking off thing.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: I'm like, but Lisa Barlow's reaction to it, jock, are
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: you fucking kidding me?
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: And she was visibly.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: Upset, as I would be too if you're coming from
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: my husband and his reputation.
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: I would have lost it.
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: But it's also like Whitney.
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: Whitney's so like he's very underrated and a lot of
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: people hate Whitney, and I used to be a Whitney
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: hated because she is like really annoying, But it's like
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: she knows how to to push your buttons. In certain moments,
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: she knew exactly what the fun she was doing, and
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: it was so funny. Also, of course you're obsessed with
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: Lisa because look, no shade, but you kind of gravitate
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: to a certain type of housewife that has a certain
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: type of personality disorder where they are utterly delusional and
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: they cannot apologize for anything or ever see even zero
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: point five percent of what they've done wrong, Teresaitnini Lisa Barlow. Now,
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: of course that is your favorite, the most difficult, just
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: insane person on the cast with an ego the side
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: of Mount Everest, so.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: Those listen.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: I love a girl who is very confident. She thinks
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: highly of herself, She's ambitious.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: I love the type of girl. I love Lisa Barlow.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: She she the self awareness of not there and I
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: fight it comical because we live in a world and
• 51:04
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• 51:13
  Speaker 2: as safe on TV, and I appreciate the fact that
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: she says things like being mad at seventeen c a
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: coach c on a forty five minute flight. A lot
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: of these girls will feel that way behind the scenes,
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: but we'll never talk about it on camera because it
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: sounds very much like girl be happy on a plane.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: So I love that about her.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: But do you think Lisa was overreacting when she read
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: Whitney's text message and did she forget what the game
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: was about?
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: No, because it's like it's one thing to shade me
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: over having tags and stuff. If you're on a fucking
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: television show and it's complete because I don't believe that.
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: That rumor is true at all.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: Me neither.
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're gonna bring that up on camera and
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: come for my marriage, like that's like a sacred thing,
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: Like you did not need to do that.
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: I mean, she didn't need to bring Angie into it.
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: Now, why am I in it?
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: Like she didn't need it Andie was about to fuck
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: her up like leap Andie's husband allow. I think it's
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: so rude at this point, but go ahead.
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: No, it's it's horrible. And they clearly have a good marriage.
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, yes, we all thought he's a little how
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: you doing, but like I don't know, they seem happy.
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: So no, shade.
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: He spends a lot of time on leg day. I
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: will say that he's not skipping leg day or glue day,
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: that is for sure.
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: But I can't.
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: The thing with Lisa Barlow though, and this is what
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: I predict will be Lisa Barlow's downfall. And I love
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: her and I interviewed her once actually and she was
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: very Okay, here's something I'll say a bit of a
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: bar but you know, I kind of thought it was
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: unfair that they had fired Jenny Neuwan or Jenny Wynn
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: or whatever. I would have rather they just addressed what
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: the issue was on the show. I don't think she
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: has as much money as she says, because it's like,
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: you know, people to talk about how much sex they have,
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: they're usually the ones that are getting at the least.
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: And I think that it's like the tag. There could
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: be some truth to the tag thing. That's why Whitney
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: did it. And I think at some point my prediction
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: with Lisa Barlow is that someone is going to get
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: some receipts on her that she has done something that
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: like you know, she's renting her home or whatever, or
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: like something that's going to like crack this facade that
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: she's built that she doesn't have all of the money
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: and all of the things that she claims to have.
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: And then I feel like she might.
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: In that egomaniac type of way, she won't be able
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: to take any accountability. She won't be able to and
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: or being cornered, and she might kind of like implode
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: a bit like Niini did, or like run off the
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: show like Lisa vander Pump did.
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: That is my Lisa Barlow one day prediction.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: Ooh, so you don't think that'd be Meredith, who likes
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: to leave.
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, I mean, I think now I like
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: that they'd kind of acknowledged that Meredith just rents a
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: house in Utah to film the show then goes back
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: to New York and it doesn't really seem to be
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: an issue. But I mean, I think if I was
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: thinking this season that if anyone's going to go, it
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: might be Meredith because she didn't have as much going on.
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: But then she has those kind of like pill popping
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: freekouts that go viral, and then everyone likes when she's
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: slurring and stuff, and it's like, I feel like she's
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: going to keep her snowflake just as long as she
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: has those meltdowns.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: No, the meltdown that she had the backseat of the
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: car with with Brittany if the hand I can watch
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: that a gazillion time is so funny and it's amazing.
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: But the thing is this, how do you feel though
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: about Whitney contacting Monica, Like did you feel like that
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: was sort of like a precursor to the audience of like, hmm,
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: maybe they'll bring Monica back next season, or do you
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: think Whitney was being shady and the doors closed with
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: Monica anyway.
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: I do not think the door is closed with Monica
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: at all, and I do not think that the door
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: is closed with.
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: Jen Shaw either.
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: As soon as Jenshaw gets out of prison, she is
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: walking back onto that show absolutely without a doubt, and
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: they keep reducing the sentencing. And sorry, I'm getting off
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: on a little bit of a tangent, but I was like,
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you, from the first premiere of The Salt
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: Lake City, I hated gen Shah and I was on
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: her ass. I'm like, this woman is lying, she's not
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: had this money or whatever, and I was cheering for
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: her going under and going to jail and prison and
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: all that stuff. And now that I've become like this
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: Salt Lake stand I'm like, now I'm rooting for the
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: sentence to be reduced.
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I need this.
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: Girl, I need this criminal back on the small screen
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: to watch. And yes, I definitely think that. I definitely
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: think they have the door open for Monica. But it's
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: also like they're not going to force it. It's gonna have
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: to be at a time when the group is ready
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: to have her back, and that it makes sense for
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: the show. But they're definitely keeping that open there, and
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: I think Monica knows it because Monica.
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: Has like.
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: I think she did a podcast with up An Adam
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: and then she was like refusing to talk about Salt
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: Lake City or to recap it on there and he's like,
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: I don't know, and then the podcast disappeared after like
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: three episodes or something, and I think she's like purposely
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: like not wanting to take that leap into like I'm
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: going to be like a Salt Lake recapper now, because
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: she is banking on getting back there, and I do
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: believe the producers told her just kill when the moment's right,
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: we're going to have you back on. But it's like,
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: I don't know how she's gonna get through Heather because
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: Heather is like not caan to have money go. Yeah.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: I think Monica.
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: Knows a lot about Heather, and I think Heather is
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: preventing her and having the cash joined in on her
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: allegedly to make sure that doesn't happen, because I think
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: I think heathern knows Monica knows shit and she does
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: not wanted to get out.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: But if you would have told me, I would have.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: Enjoyed this season as much as I did last season,
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: I would have called you a fucking liar, Camille, do
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Hey, Kyle, I would have
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: definitely been like, there's no way. I It's to the
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: point where I am even like shocked at myself for
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: how much I've enjoyed Salt Lake City, because I just
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: didn't think it would have what it takes. But it's
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: a testament to again, I like to always give the
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: cast and crew their props. It's a testament to the
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: cast and crew for delivering a seasons that they know
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: like we have to be a part of the conversation.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: And it reminds me of how Potomac used to be.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: Potomac was always in the shadows of Atlanta for obvious reasons,
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: and I just remember those Potomac girls being hungry and like, no,
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: we can stand on our own without being compared to Atlanta.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: And at one point they did do that, right. But
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: I think as of today, I think OC, you and
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: I both agree, had another amazing season and I have
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: to give the newbies of Salt Lake City, like it
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: really is becoming possibly the best Bravo show that I've
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: scene on air right now, tied with OC.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: It's that amazing. It really, it really is a great show.
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't tie it with OC though, I mean OC
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: is OC is my personal number one favorite, but it
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: OC that still felt like a top tier season of
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: Housewives Salt like felt like something different, Like it felt
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: like I was saying this shit should be on HBO,
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: Like this is kind of like a different level than
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: even what like Housewives is doing.
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: I want to get your take on two things.
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: I want to know where we go from here, and
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: but before that, I want to know, how do we
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: explain Mary being what she was previously to then this
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: season suddenly clocking in being vulnerable, being likable, being able
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: to just like do fun activities with Like it's like
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: a different person, Like she still had the same shade
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: and the same brutal honesty. Like I'm every episod I
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: was shocked of, Like, who is this Mary compared to
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: the insane person that I saw for years before?
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: The thing is this?
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: I think this, and this is why I always tell people,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: if you need to leave a season for your mental health,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: whatever you're going through, then then then you should do
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: what's best for you and your mental health.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: Right. I think Mary signed on to.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: Do the show, because who you know who? We're in
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: Salt Lake City. You want me to be on TV
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: as fun as whatever?
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: And I think I heard this and you may have two,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: that she was like the first person cast from.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: Salt Lake City. That's what I heard. I don't know
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: if it's true or not, but I heard that somewhere.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: And I think she never understood the power of this medium.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: And I think as we are seeing now with her
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: son being brave to talk about his addiction issues, I
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: think she was going through a lot of personal stuff
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: that she just couldn't handle. And I think the break
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: did her some good. I think, listen, there's nothing like
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: being missed and people begging for your return, right, And
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: I think she got it, but I think she needed
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: to be away from it for a year and missed
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: it again because when I look at her, I'm like you,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I love her more and she's she's so
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: good and I believe she likes ANGIEK.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's fake at all.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: And the scene with her and her son, that's when
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: I knew, like, oh, this is different Mary.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: I think Mary.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: Understood the power of the show, and I think that's
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: what's going on with her. To answer your second question,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: where do the cast and the show go from here?
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: And it's funny, souse. I thought about that.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: After I washed the finale and I said to myself, huh,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: where do they go from here?
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: Because how can you top this season?
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: And I don't have the answer right now in terms
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: of where they go, but I will say this, everybody
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: deserves a chance to come back. And I think when
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: it comes to Brownwin and g and Brittany as like
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: the newbies, I think there is an opportunity for those
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: women to really usher themselves, to be more vocal and
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: to give more to the show. Not that they haven't
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: given all to the show, but there's an opportunity for
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: like a shift in the hierarchy. I think at the
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: end of the day, we all know it is what
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: it is. I think there will always be heralded as
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: like the queen Bee of the show. I think, listen,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: even I can say that right with all the things
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: that I I feel about Heather being dangerous by blaming
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: a producer of The Black Eye, I would never like that,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: but I'm also honest and smart. She will always be
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: heralded as the queen Bee because those ladies, they see
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: her that way, and that was evident at the dinner
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: table in the finale. Nobody read a shady Heather at text,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like that's that's her. But
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: I think there's something there's and and again, there's something
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: magical about this brand Brittany, Angie and braun Win that
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: screens the opportunity to take a leap in terms of
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: a leader position, not the queen Bee, but a force multiplier.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: And I do think, I do think, I do think
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: bringing on somebody knew will make this show continue to
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: be the best house live.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: I'm rada, Yeah, I do think they need to bring
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: another new person in for sure to keep this going.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 4: I don't know where they go with Brittany.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: And I say that as a Britney stand It's just
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: like to me, Brittany is ten out of ten for
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: the season, but she was like ten out of ten
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: as a friend. I cannot see her being a full
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: time because she can't read at all and these girls
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: can read like she cannot read at all, like I don't.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: She almost doesn't even know how to go back and forth.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: And then a couple of times when she did try
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: to initiate a conflict. It felt contrived and she got
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: splattered because she tried it with Bronwin early on, where
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: she was like, are you attracted to your husband? And
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: Bronwin just like destroyed her and she looked bad. And
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: I also think she lies a lot. I think she
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: lies constantly.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 4: Love her and I don't.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: I think they're harmless lies, you know what I mean.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: It's not like anything crazy, but so she's not full
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: time material. And then I think about who could they
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: bring back. I do think next season we should get
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: a Monica cameo, even if it's not just even for
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: the trailer to make the trailer pop, Like I think
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: she's still yeah, And.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: I also think bring her back towards the end of
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: the season as like a you know, I agree with that.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think maybe she's still friendly with Mary,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: so maybe like she could just go over to Mary's
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: to have a conversation. Bam, you've got the Monica scene.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: I do miss Angie Harrington. I really liked Do you
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: remember Angie Harrington? She was one of the friends. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: and she had Lisa's number kind of early on because
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: I think it was in season two they got into
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: an issue where basically I think Lisa Barlow found out
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: that Angie was throwing like the first party of the season,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: and then Lisa Barlow got the caterers or whatever to
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: like pull out of Angie's party, and then of course
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: Lisa didnt was crying on camera and saying that she
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: didn't do it, and all it was like she clearly did.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 4: So I would like Angie Harrington back, but yeah, I.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: Think we need someone new, and yeah, I'm very interested
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: to see where it goes, and I want to see
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: if anyone gets demoted, because I do always wonder, like
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: with Meredith and Whitney, sometimes I do feel like they
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: get close to like maybe getting let go, And sometimes
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: it's one of those things where like sometimes a really
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: good cast member has to be let go, like an
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: Alexis Bollino for example, or a Montica Garcia, because it's like,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: you know what, we have to shift the energy. We
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: can't risk, like we just have to change up this
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: dynamic and make something new and fresh happen. And sometimes
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: someone unfortunately has to be a casualty and get tipped out.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: So it kind of wouldn't shock me if they actually
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: got rid of an OG just to shake it up.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: I think they will get rid of an OLG.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: I think an OG will either be demoted or get
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: you know, their walking papers. I agree with you one
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: thousand percent. I think Britney should remain a friend of
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: and I think that's fine. One thing Marlo Hampton I
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: talked about that I said on my own podcast, and
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: she shared this too recently. Marlow was actually a housewife
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: her first season four, but she turned it down and
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: she was a friend of And one thing she and
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: I always talk about is should she have remained a
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: friend to the show versus being a housewife, Because it's
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: so much pressure being a housewife that sometimes you have
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: to look at and say, am I better suited as
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: a friend.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: When I look at Britney.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: I see an amazing, top tier friend of, like a
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: Kathy Hilton. I don't want Kathy Hilton to hold a diamond.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: I want Kathy Hilton to come in and out and
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: that's it. And I look at Britney that way. I
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: don't think she's housewife's material. I think she will be.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: I think Brittany has the opportunity and the potential to
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: be the Marlow Hampton of Salt Lake an amazing friend
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: of that you bring in when necessary, shakes the table,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: gives you these whack the do moment that I love.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: And then and then she's on a cast trip and
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: is to go home.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, I agree, and I want to see
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: more of her relationship with Jared Osman. I think that
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: whole thing is interesting and that they went official writers.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: Obviously they're about.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: To cast for the next season, so I am wondering, like,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: is that real? Is that fake? I would like to
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: see the women actually talk about that. I would like
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: them to have that conversation because I think we're all
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: asking that question.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: Will bring it up for Yeah, sure.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: So I mean that's already juicy, so yeah, definitely bring
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: and look, give Britney the chance to prove herself that
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: she could be full time. Who knows. I mean, Angie
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: Kay started as a friend and I loved Angie Ky,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: but I kind of I don't think I expected them
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: to make her a full timer. And then she's just
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: gotten stronger with each season, so you never know. Some
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: people can surprise you.
• 1:08:53
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• 1:08:58
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• 1:09:00
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