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- 0:03Speaker 1: From the Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Claire Harvey.
- 0:06Speaker 1: It's Tuesday, February tenth, twenty twenty six. Taxpayers are funneling
- 0:13Speaker 1: seventeen point three million dollars per annum to unions, a
- 0:17Speaker 1: figure that's more than doubled since Anthony Albanzi came to power.
- 0:21Speaker 1: The Australian's revealing today a fifty million dollar federal grant
- 0:26Speaker 1: for unions to explain Labour's own workplace reform laws. That's
- 0:30Speaker 1: an exclusive live now at the Australian dot Com dot
- 0:34Speaker 1: a U one nation is on the rise as the
- 0:40Speaker 1: coalition struggles to find its way, but Pauline Hanson's party
- 0:44Speaker 1: has no chance of forming government. If an election were
- 0:48Speaker 1: held now, that's the takeout from a news poll exclusive
- 0:51Speaker 1: to The Australian. One Nation would have received just twenty
- 0:55Speaker 1: nine percent of preferences from Coalition, Greens and independent voters
- 0:59Speaker 1: and would struggle to win seats from Labor. Japan's about
- 1:06Speaker 1: to change everything in our neighborhood, electing a prime minister
- 1:10Speaker 1: who wants to end eight decades of pacifism and massively
- 1:14Speaker 1: increase its defense spending and intelligence capabilities. Today North Asia
- 1:19Speaker 1: correspondent Jonni Bishan joins US from Tokyo, where voters have
- 1:24Speaker 1: overwhelmingly endorsed Sunai Takaichi, the politician famous for picking a
- 1:30Speaker 1: fight with China. At the end of World War Two,
- 1:44Speaker 1: the ancient warrior Society of Japan ended with abject humiliation, surrender, disarmament,
- 1:50Speaker 1: and occupation, an.
- 1:52Speaker 2: Unforgettable ceremony marking the complete and formal surrender of Japan
- 1:57Speaker 2: in the Bay of Tokyo itself.
- 1:59Speaker 1: For more than eight decades, Japan has stuck to its
- 2:02Speaker 1: own constitutional guarantee it would have a self defense force
- 2:05Speaker 1: only not a real military, and would be incapable of
- 2:09Speaker 1: repeating the catastrophic overreach of the nineteen thirties and forties. Now,
- 2:14Speaker 1: Japanese voters have elected a prime minister who wants to
- 2:18Speaker 1: arm them to the teeth, Snai Takaichi, who said it's
- 2:22Speaker 1: time for Japan to have a proper military, just like
- 2:24Speaker 1: everyone else. Jonni Bashan is The Australian's North Asia correspondent.
- 2:41Speaker 1: Yoni Let's start with Snay Takaichi. Who is she?
- 2:45Speaker 2: Well, she's very different from the safe great suits of
- 2:47Speaker 2: Japanese politics. Firstly, this is a historic win for Japan
- 2:51Speaker 2: and for Takaichi. She's the first woman to be elected
- 2:54Speaker 2: prime minister, although her popularity really seems to come down
- 2:58Speaker 2: to her straight talking style. And this is something the
- 3:00Speaker 2: voters on the street kept reinforcing to me whenever I
- 3:03Speaker 2: fox popped them through Tokyo over the weekend. I'm here
- 3:06Speaker 2: to Botford there like, you know our parudition, who marches
- 3:12Speaker 2: my like a sinking and you know my idea. So
- 3:16Speaker 2: she's traditional, she's conservative, she opposes same sex marriage, she
- 3:20Speaker 2: doesn't agree with the idea that women should keep their
- 3:23Speaker 2: surname after marriage. And then of course there's China, to
- 3:27Speaker 2: whom she refuses to bow, so to speak. And while
- 3:30Speaker 2: that's worried a cohort of the Japanese public, it's evidently
- 3:34Speaker 2: resonated not just widely, but wildly with the electorate. And
- 3:38Speaker 2: it's why they've delivered tuck Age. She and her coalition
- 3:40Speaker 2: this historic supermajority in the lower House of Parliament on Sunday.
- 3:45Speaker 2: That's cool.
- 3:49Speaker 1: Yeah, she's now got an undeniable mandate to go about
- 3:51Speaker 1: reforming Japanese society. What's going to be her first move?
- 3:55Speaker 2: Well, at the same domestic issues will probably take precedence.
- 3:59Speaker 2: The end is weak, inflation high, and so is the
- 4:01Speaker 2: bond market, which means investors basically don't feel entirely comfortable
- 4:06Speaker 2: or secure lending the government money, so she'll have to
- 4:08Speaker 2: fix that. She's already promising tax cuts, which everyone loves
- 4:11Speaker 2: and everyone wants. Of course, the lower hanging fruit in
- 4:15Speaker 2: Japan is going to be her promise on immigration. She
- 4:17Speaker 2: wants to introduce language tests for foreign residents. This foreign
- 4:21Speaker 2: resident business seems to have partly captured the politics of
- 4:23Speaker 2: the election here, even though immigrants comprise a fraction of
- 4:26Speaker 2: the population, many of them from China, from Vietnam, and
- 4:29Speaker 2: to a lesser but prominent extent Kurdish people. And then
- 4:32Speaker 2: the big one, of course, are the changes that Takehi
- 4:34Speaker 2: has promised to the constitution, which stand to depacify Japan
- 4:38Speaker 2: and constitutionally recognize that it does in fact have an army,
- 4:42Speaker 2: not a self defense force. And that's something which breaks
- 4:45Speaker 2: nearly eight decades of illegal fiction that's existed in this country,
- 4:49Speaker 2: this idea, dating back to the nineteen forties after Japan's
- 4:52Speaker 2: defeat in the war, that it was committed to nonviolence,
- 4:55Speaker 2: while at the same time and since then building up
- 4:57Speaker 2: one of the most sophisticated militaries in the region.
- 5:03Speaker 1: The thing that rocketed Takaichi to global attention was that
- 5:06Speaker 1: she picked a fight with China, which you don't see
- 5:08Speaker 1: people in Asia doing very often. It means, back at
- 5:12Speaker 1: your regular home in Beijing, you presumably can't order Japanese
- 5:15Speaker 1: fish at your local restaurant. What was that all about.
- 5:19Speaker 2: So that happened about one month after she assent it
- 5:23Speaker 2: to power here in Japan, back in September, so just
- 5:26Speaker 2: a few weeks after she takes a job as Prime Minister,
- 5:29Speaker 2: she stands up in parliament and breaks long standing convention
- 5:32Speaker 2: by talking about Taiwan and contingencies. And what she declares
- 5:36Speaker 2: in the National Parliament is that in the event that
- 5:40Speaker 2: China decides to attack or invade or conduct any style
- 5:43Speaker 2: of adventurism in Taiwan, Japan would view it as an
- 5:47Speaker 2: existential crisis for itself and may have to militarily interven.
- 5:50Speaker 2: Now that's a lot of diplomatic language, but what it
- 5:52Speaker 2: basically says is Japan would do something if China and
- 5:55Speaker 2: Taiwan went at each other. And Beijing didn't like hearing
- 5:59Speaker 2: that one bit straight away, A fur or erupted. There
- 6:03Speaker 2: were bands on seafood, the Chinese instructed their tourists to
- 6:07Speaker 2: stay away from Japan. There were bands on where earth
- 6:10Speaker 2: exports going into Japan, and essentially like a mini Cold
- 6:13Speaker 2: War erupted between these two nations, and that persists for
- 6:16Speaker 2: the moment most if not for it spelled it now.
- 6:21Speaker 2: It's something that when you're speaking to voters on the
- 6:23Speaker 2: streets of Tokyo, there will be a cohort of people
- 6:25Speaker 2: who will say, this is not something that we wanted
- 6:27Speaker 2: for Japan. We did not want to pick a fight
- 6:30Speaker 2: with our largest creating partner. This is not what the
- 6:32Speaker 2: country needs right now. On the other hand, you have
- 6:34Speaker 2: this enormous cohort in Japan, and clearly they exist because
- 6:37Speaker 2: they've voted her into power so comprehensively, this enormous cohort
- 6:41Speaker 2: who have said, we do need a spine in the region,
- 6:44Speaker 2: we do need more defense spending, and we do need
- 6:46Speaker 2: to assert ourselves militarily in a region where China has
- 6:50Speaker 2: the power to exert economic sanctions on us at the
- 6:53Speaker 2: drop of the hat.
- 6:56Speaker 1: Sana Aitekiichi presumably doesn't actually want to have a war
- 7:00Speaker 1: with China, which is the most powerful military in the world,
- 7:04Speaker 1: probably by the United States. There's a certain, obviously domestic
- 7:08Speaker 1: resonance to what she said. You know, she has got
- 7:11Speaker 1: herself re elected with this resounding mandate because in part
- 7:15Speaker 1: of talking tough like this, how much do you think
- 7:18Speaker 1: she actually wants to provoke China in the way that
- 7:21Speaker 1: she obviously has.
- 7:22Speaker 2: There's no doubt that Sanae Take she does not want
- 7:25Speaker 2: to provoke China into any further economic sanctions or at
- 7:28Speaker 2: worst some kind of military conflict. That's not what she wants.
- 7:31Speaker 2: It's not what the Japanese public wants. That's clear when
- 7:33Speaker 2: you speak to anyone on the street and when you
- 7:35Speaker 2: speak to the pundits in this country. However, there is
- 7:37Speaker 2: a view that kowtowing to China is appeasement, and Sanaei
- 7:40Speaker 2: Take she is pushing back against that idea, and it's
- 7:43Speaker 2: why she's so forceful about displaying some backbone with the
- 7:47Speaker 2: military and having the army entered into the constitution formally.
- 7:51Speaker 1: China's in a state of flux at the moment. A
- 7:54Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, the head of the military just disappeared,
- 7:58Speaker 1: Shi Jinping. He talks a lot about China. He talks
- 8:01Speaker 1: a lot about Japan's war of aggression in the nineteen forties.
- 8:04Speaker 1: World War two, China flexes its muscle in the region
- 8:08Speaker 1: by building islands in the South China Sea, by sending
- 8:11Speaker 1: spy ships to surveil the coast of Australia. There's a
- 8:14Speaker 1: lot of flexing going on from China's point of view.
- 8:17Speaker 1: Do you think the election of a sort of strong
- 8:19Speaker 1: leader in Japan will shape how Shijinping thinks about invading Taiwan.
- 8:27Speaker 2: I suspect that broadly in China, there is going to
- 8:30Speaker 2: be a view that Sannai Takachi's brand of politics is
- 8:33Speaker 2: what one academic described to me an academic from China
- 8:36Speaker 2: as shadowy imperialism. So they seem to receive all her
- 8:41Speaker 2: muscular nationalism and talk of increasing defense spending and having
- 8:45Speaker 2: the military inserted into the constitution as of Japan that
- 8:48Speaker 2: is trying to harp back to the country. It was
- 8:52Speaker 2: China didn't want to see Sunai Takachi elected, although they
- 8:55Speaker 2: did see this result coming.
- 9:01Speaker 1: Coming up more of my conversation with Yanni Bishan. Until
- 9:25Speaker 1: this election result, the most Australians were hearing about Japan
- 9:29Speaker 1: was that they've had an incredibly tough winter that has yielded,
- 9:33Speaker 1: of course, amazing snow for the people who like to
- 9:36Speaker 1: go over to Japan to ski and snowboard. It's also
- 9:39Speaker 1: resulted in several deaths. Three Australian tourists and many many
- 9:43Speaker 1: people in Japan have died while doing things like shoveling
- 9:45Speaker 1: snow off their own roofs. It's a real natural disaster
- 9:49Speaker 1: in slow motion in Japan. Yani, you've spent the weekend
- 9:53Speaker 1: in Tokyo. Paint a picture for me. What's it like?
- 9:56Speaker 1: How cold is it?
- 9:57Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty cold. This is also very unusual for
- 10:00Speaker 2: this election. It was held in February. This is not
- 10:02Speaker 2: something that they traditionally do in this country decades since
- 10:05Speaker 2: there's been an election held in February. And there's a
- 10:06Speaker 2: reason for it. It's just very, very cold, and it
- 10:08Speaker 2: affects voter turnout because large parts of the country, particularly
- 10:12Speaker 2: up north, they get blanketed in snow and people don't
- 10:14Speaker 2: want to go out. And you see, unlike Australia where
- 10:17Speaker 2: we have compulsory voting, in Japan, you don't have to
- 10:19Speaker 2: go out and vote. It's entirely voluntary, and that's why
- 10:21Speaker 2: the voter turnout in this particular election, which was reasonably
- 10:24Speaker 2: high and reasonably high despite the snow, is quite impressive.
- 10:28Speaker 2: The other thing I'd say about Japanese elections, which is
- 10:30Speaker 2: really different to what we're used to, is that they're
- 10:32Speaker 2: just kind of not as lurid and not as chaotic
- 10:35Speaker 2: as we've come to expect in Australia. I mean, yes,
- 10:38Speaker 2: there are campaign ads, and there's core flutes and things
- 10:42Speaker 2: of that nature, but not like we have in Sydney, Melbourne,
- 10:45Speaker 2: Brisbane and Perth and the regions very very different over here.
- 10:48Speaker 2: I mean, we are talking about a society. This is
- 10:49Speaker 2: one thing that I noticed in particular. I mean, this
- 10:51Speaker 2: is a society where if you're crossing the street on
- 10:54Speaker 2: a busy road and there's no cars, there's no traffic,
- 10:57Speaker 2: you'll just have a large amount of people gathering at
- 10:59Speaker 2: street corners refusing to cross until the little man turns green,
- 11:02Speaker 2: and people from other countries, myself included, will just stand
- 11:05Speaker 2: looking around, going why isn't anyone crossing there's no cars, like,
- 11:07Speaker 2: we're free to do so, but they will wait. It
- 11:10Speaker 2: is orderly, it is civilized, and the election was thus
- 11:12Speaker 2: very Japanese. If you'll permit me to say, so you
- 11:15Speaker 2: walk around. There aren't core flutes, cable types every pole insight,
- 11:18Speaker 2: there aren't gigantic billboards of grinting candidates, and it didn't
- 11:23Speaker 2: feel as as in your face as we would have expected,
- 11:27Speaker 2: particularly given what we're used to back home.
- 11:29Speaker 1: You've had an incredible weekend, very busy weekend covering this election.
- 11:32Speaker 1: I hope you're going to find time to get some
- 11:34Speaker 1: Japanese seafood before you have to head back to Beijing.
- 11:37Speaker 1: Jodi Rashean, thank you very much.
- 11:39Speaker 2: Thank you