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The IU Report with Grant Shouse & Mike Hutsell: NFL Draft Recap (Guest: Michelle Garmon, 2.248.2) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

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[SPEAKER_03]: you are listening to the iU report with grant shots and my cuttle and this week guest Michelle Garmin of the tip interview and L. McCulley.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So guys, iU report grant shots, my cuttle, Michelle Garmin, a little bit of off-season stuff to talk about here, especially after last week, and Indiana's historic presence
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[SPEAKER_01]: In the NFL draft, no introduction really needed for Fernando Mendoza who went number one overall.
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[SPEAKER_01]: in the draft to the Las Vegas Raiders.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Omar Cooper was the 30th overall pick in the first round to the New York Jets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: On day two, DeAngelo Ponds was selected 50th overall by the Jets as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: K-line black went in the third round, 90th overall.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He'll be headed out to Stanford, Cisco.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a play for the 49ers and then on date, three Elijah Serrat in the fourth round, 115th overall pick to the Baltimore Ravens.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Riley Noah Caleski was picked in the fifth round, a hunt overall by the Pittsburgh Steelers, probably going to be a full-back Titan kind of guy like he was at IU.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Pat Cougan, the 194th overall pick to the Tennessee Titans in the sixth round and then Aiden Fisher was selected in the seventh round.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 200 and third overall.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to the Houston Texans.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Start with Mike here, your reaction, your initial reaction to Indiana's very known presence within the NFL draft last week.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Obviously you're excited.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, you have eight guys get picked in the NFL draft in Indiana football.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, that was like almost a decade for Indiana football.
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[SPEAKER_05]: As recently as three years ago,
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[SPEAKER_05]: But at the same time, you know, I'm a parent and I want to see my kids go out and do great things in life and you don't want to see them fall in with a bad crowd and you've got Mendoza's going to be with the Raiders, you know, two guys go into the jets, poor keylon black.
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[SPEAKER_05]: If you play for the 49ers, your credit goes down 60 points just by being associated with San Francisco.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So I was hoping for better situations for some of these guys.
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[SPEAKER_05]: you know, everybody's going to an AFC rival.
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[SPEAKER_05]: The cults apparently are allergic to drafting Indiana players, which I don't quite understand.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And we knew when does it was going to be a writer.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You were hoping like hell that you didn't get a guy go to the jets.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We have two guys going to the engines.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So I hope nothing but the best for these guys if they turn it around and and get some of these more bound just absolutely dog franchises going in the right direction.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That would be great.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's going to make Indiana look even better.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And then, Sarat go into the Ravens, not too many better organizations you can go to, not one of my favorite teams, but you got one of the best quarterbacks in the league that he's going to be playing with.
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[SPEAKER_05]: The Ravens have just been a model of consistency through the years and I really, really feel like that was a steal for that team and that franchise.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So all around, great moment for Indiana football,
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[SPEAKER_05]: I think it's going to be even bigger next year, perhaps with three first rounders that you could name off the top of my head, but a great moment as a fan to a great sense of pride in your program to watch that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll agree with you on that Mike.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really think the guy, because I was surprised to fill to as late as he did, but I think the guy that will surprise and win into perhaps the best situation is, Aiden Fisher.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to, it's Lexus, and he's going to go play for a coach who is an all pro linebacker.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I don't know that he could have really asked for a better situation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's really smart and, let's get the, yeah, hi IQ.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's a great situation for him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Mendoza, I tell you, he's going to make the rate, he's just going to make the Raiders better.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was listening to a clip from somebody else's podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They were interviewing the Raiders GM today, and he was just talking about the pro-day that Mendoza won them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it was that day, they knew for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They were absolutely taking him with the first pick and it had nothing to do with how well he threw the ball that day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll say this with Riley Noah Calsky, going to the Steelers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know about you guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That just seems like the most Pittsburgh Steelers pick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It does.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He could say, I'm gonna fit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, this is a guy that I'm gonna hate him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, well, this guy that, you know, played a little bit of fullback scored as a fullback in the national championship game to touch down a couple.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Couple other times, you know, you put him in the back field to kind of be your fullback and then you can line him up at tight in now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: on the first game of the season or really all year long bargaining is a team's demon though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I agree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's a guy that
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[SPEAKER_01]: is really flying under the radar.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He had 32 catches last year, 300 and 87 yards, two touchdowns.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this feelers loved to utilize their tight ends in the passing game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's one of those things there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a it's a perfect situation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Michelle, you mentioned eight in Fisher a moment ago, going to the Texans.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I don't know how long
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[SPEAKER_01]: eight official play in the league he could play a really long time or not really have a long career but I'll say what when he's done playing that guy is going to be a heck of like a defensive coordinator for some good team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: His IQ I think translates from college to the NFL naturally and I think that
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[SPEAKER_01]: given the opportunity again, another one is guys like, no, a Calstya, he may not be a day one starter, but his IQ will move him up the death chart and into the lineup, I think, on game days.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The thing is with Omar Cooper and DeAngelo Ponds, you're getting two huge playmakers, I think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we saw the kinds of plays that Ponds at Omar Cooper, you know, could make this past season
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I think that hopefully that'll translate over to the next level.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's why you draft guys like that because they can make big plays.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we saw them do that last season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just feel bad for Omar Cooper because he's going to team that really doesn't have a quarterback and has not had a really good offensive system for a long time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, ponds.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the jets have been known.
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[SPEAKER_00]: for their defense, and they've had great DBs through the year, you know, you have Revis, they're all in, hey, the colds traded for Soss Gardner.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I think for Ponds, the situation is fine, I hate it for Cooper because, you know, the offense just sucks.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You're not, you're not, you're not enthused about the genosmith to a connection there in New York, or the reunite in with genome, baby.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You need to be in a good friend for genome because of what he can do if you can get the pulling his hands and because he is really good after the catching, but no, I just, I have no faith in the jet's offense when they drafted Cooper.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was happy that he was a first round draft choice, but I hated it because that's the last place.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted and I you player to end up, especially, and I you often, player.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, and Michelle, I think you were on the cold group chat that we were texting last weekend and Ponds going to the Jets.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Obviously, he's playing for a really good corner bag and Aaron Glenn was an all pro corner when it has a player in the league, but do you remember the stat that I threw out at the last
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[SPEAKER_05]: the jets intercepted a pass rory macaroid did not have a green jacket yes and now rory macaroid has two green jackets and the jets haven't picked off a pass anytime in between those two green jackets that's just pathetic man so we can only make that defense better because
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[SPEAKER_05]: you can't be worse than than what they put out their last year defensively.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And he's just an absolute dog on defense.
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[SPEAKER_05]: He's one of one of my favorite players that's come through IU maybe ever.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So I'm really excited to watch him man did he have to go to the freaking jits.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell you guy got a good gig was black to get drafted by the 49ers and I know a lot of people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I had to reach in everything, but I think the winners, because he can catch the ball out of the backfield, but he's a tank and I think they're tired of Christian McAfrey getting banged up all the time and now they have they have a really good strong running back for those short yardage situations where you can take McAfrey out and put black in.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And it's not a popular pick among Pondens.
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[SPEAKER_05]: They really feel like that was a reach.
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[SPEAKER_05]: He went in the third or how many didn't even get invited to the combine, but all of us sitting here know how good that guy actually is.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And I think Grant, you and I talked about him at in-depth on our last pod about how we really, really expect to be on black to have a good pro career.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But he's going to a good situation.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Kyle Shanna and one of the best offensive coaches in the league if not the best.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Definitely one of the best running game coordinator.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I guys in the league is as Shayna hands.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So I'm excited for him, not a 49er guy whatsoever, but he's joining a lot of other familiar faces without you out there.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Curtis Rorks there, CJ West is out there.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And they also signed Mikhail Kamara and the Undirected Free Agent Pool.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So little IUS team going on out there but unfortunately it's with the 49ers and all their fans or all their fans are on parole.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and it's real interesting with K-line black because this is a guy that, you know, had to work his way back into the lineup this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he, he lost his spot in the rotation last season in 2020.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's back in the lineup this year and shows what he can do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Roman Hmbee was really good and Roman Hmbee did his job.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that because Roman Hmbee was so good that a lot of, I think, other teams forgot about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: how good Kaylon black could be and he'd be kind of I think he kind of became a little bit of Indiana's bell cow back in a way you're go to guy that is probably stronger than him be a little more physical than Roman him be and and he really put himself on display which is why he got drafted in the third round now it is kind of remarkable that the guy
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[SPEAKER_01]: did get drafted after not being invited to this is something you just don't really hear of.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so black, I think is an excellent fit there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Another really good fit for him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think would have been with like Kansas City, or maybe with Seattle, a team like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, he's still walking into a really good situation out there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: in San Francisco.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Another guy I wanted to talk about Elijah Serrat this year went fourth, went in the fourth round 115th overall.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think a lot of us thought that he's probably going to be a day to guy and just didn't work out that way and that's fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the more I keep thinking about it in the last week or so, Elijah Serrat just seems like the most Baltimore Ravens kind of guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: out there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You hear the name Elijah Serrat, you're like, that guy definitely plays for the Ravens.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how to explain it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why I think that, but he's going to the Ravens, and hopefully you put him in a good situation with little Marjax and out there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think?
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[SPEAKER_05]: I think it's a good fit for him because there's definitely a need for that type of receiver in Baltimore.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Baltimore has always been, you know, tight end reliant.
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[SPEAKER_05]: They still have Mark Andrews running around there.
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[SPEAKER_05]: They've lost Isaiah likely now, so they've lost a little bit of that physical over-the-middle presence that they have, so they need an out, a receiver who can catch contested passes.
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[SPEAKER_05]: They flowers as a really, really good receiver, but he's more of a,
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[SPEAKER_05]: speed twitchy type of guy runs reverses runs screens behind the line type receiver.
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[SPEAKER_05]: They don't really have the guy that you just throw it up and he bullies of corner into going and getting it and they've tried several different options there.
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[SPEAKER_05]: They've dawned the Angelo Hopkins.
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[SPEAKER_05]: maybe in the later stages of his career.
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[SPEAKER_05]: They've had Rashad Bateman type receivers over the years, but there's definitely a need for that physical in the red zone, back shoulder kind of guy with Baltimore, and I think you're not going to find a better prospect to fill that role in this draft than Elijah Surat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with you there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really thought, I really thought the Steelers were going to take him because he's
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[SPEAKER_00]: If Aaron Rodgers wasn't going to be the quarterback this year, they don't have a good one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's he's in a better situation with Baltimore, but you talk about a stealer's guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He kind of fits that he's such a good run blocking receiver, the back shoulder, great in the in the red zone, but I think Baltimore got a steal and I think they drafted.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Didn't they draft another receiver ahead of him?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I'd have to go back and look, um, but I think he's going to be there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's going to be the guy that they go back and look at and say, oh, man, for where when we ended up taking him, he's going to be our best.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's value.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And Greg, we'd be remiss if we didn't mention that only didn't even have the eight drafties.
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[SPEAKER_05]: They have four guys also headed to camp that are familiar names.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Obviously, but we talked about Camara with the Niners.
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[SPEAKER_05]: E.J.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Williams is going with Mendoza to Oakland, or excuse me, Las Vegas, man, my age is showing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was rumming into the Oakland Raiders in my mind too.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Roman Himmby also, and then Devon Boykin is a stealer.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So all of those guys are going to get an opportunity.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And you look at scenarios where you can make a team.
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[SPEAKER_05]: The Raiders don't have a lot.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So if you can go in and show out and camp, you're going to have an opportunity to make the final roster there.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Boykin stealers DB is not exactly a strength.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So that's a good opportunity for him.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Come on, I was probably going to the the hardest spot playing defense and San Francisco, there's a lot going on, you know, a lot obviously a lot of talent there, CJ West included that we talked about.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So I feel like these four undrafted guys, three of them could realistically make a final roster based on the situations they went to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, don't forget the punner, McCarthy got to draft it, too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Our got signed a free agent and drafted free agent.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I didn't even realize I knew you had a punter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, but when he was in there, he was actually pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't have to pun a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the, that's the one thing.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So the Maytag repairman of college football, punter and IU.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Another guy that got drafted here, Pat Kudigan as well, going to Tennessee,
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[SPEAKER_01]: this year was a two or three years starter at Notre Dame before he came to Indiana.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He probably could have gotten drafted last year at a Notre Dame and got in the portal and came to IU.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is the guy that we knew was going to be an NFL player one day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That needs just huge.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That guy just having football center.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a guy that really
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[SPEAKER_01]: was the captain of the offensive line this year really showed leadership and and I think the Titans are getting a good one with them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Lord knows they probably need all they can get on the offensive line and hopefully that hopefully Pat Cougan will be able to provide that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: for tennis and tightens.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We got to include Greg and our conversation here.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Let's break down the Ottawa Red Black selection of Geordano Vicaro from Purdue with the number one pick.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Is that the in the Canadian football league draft?
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[SPEAKER_04]: What a wrap.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Lula Faye loves to pick,
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[SPEAKER_00]: always hated the raiders in the past, but I'm sorry, I'll be watching him a lot every chance I get this year, and I will actually probably as long as Mendoza's behind center, I know I'll be rooting for him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's a great situation, too, because Tom Brady has really become more involved this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One, I figured he would because he hates to lose.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not going to own a team and continue to let them lose.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's in a great situation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, uh,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just think the Raiders may move before he got there to make it a better fit for him and to protect him.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And I'll piggyback off what Michelle just said there because I agree with one thing, since they've moved to Las Vegas, especially the raiders have been just an absolute train wreck when it comes to head coaches.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And this offseason, they got rid of the star power.
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[SPEAKER_05]: They stopped trying to win the press conference and get the biggest name.
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[SPEAKER_05]: They could possibly put in that spot and they got a young bright offensive kind of guru.
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[SPEAKER_05]: and Clint Kubiak who has had superbowl level offenses in his coaching career, and that's who Mendoza's going to be learning from in the league.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Com Brady, it's great that he's involved, but I mean, let's face it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: He's not even there on game day.
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[SPEAKER_05]: He's doing games for Fox.
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[SPEAKER_05]: This is, this is Kubiak getting his guy in place, a new coach, a general manager,
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[SPEAKER_05]: you know, trying to build, you know, the core that way, this is a Raiders franchise that's gone out and dusted off John Grouden, Josh McDaniels who got fired because he skipped a Halloween party from the owner Pete Carroll.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Come on, Pete Carroll.
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[SPEAKER_05]: God love the guy.
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[SPEAKER_05]: He was a good coach and Seattle for a while.
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[SPEAKER_05]: but he was way past his prime and he brought in genos and through he'd already talked about.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Don't forget Antonio Pierce, who was an interim coach who got the job for one season, but probably was way in over a set.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So for the first time,
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[SPEAKER_05]: this franchise since it's gone to its location in Las Vegas, they've got the coach, they've got the GM and now they have the quarterback, they're all tied in together and it'll be really interesting to see how this shakes out.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Now one thing I do want to ask you all, I live in Louisville, I talk about this a lot,
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[SPEAKER_05]: ever since he's gone there.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Ravens games are played every Sunday on a local radio affiliate.
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[SPEAKER_05]: If a indie radio affiliate picked up picked up Las Vegas Raider games every Sunday.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Would you listen, probably not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, personally, no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, Windows will play for the
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[SPEAKER_01]: when they're on like I won't go on my way to watch it to be honest, but that's me personally.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right guys, I just want to put in my two cents as a Purdue fan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think every one of these guys is going to have a good NFL career.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think Mendoza was a product of the system.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think you guys are going to be disappointed in what he does, but the rest of them I would take in a heartbeat as a cult's fan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and even down to Pat Cougan and Chalem Black, all those guys, Elias Serrat 4th round come on, give me a break and I felt, what are you looking at?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Every one of those guys I'd love to have on my team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, before we go, I think we need to talk about the Sours be scandal and does it affect IU and your thoughts on that started with Brandon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... it does not affect i u as far as i know right now if it does okay vacate the four winds from twenty twenty two it's it's bad like it's a serious problem that a lot of people are faced in some glad he's getting the hell
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, as long as it doesn't affect what's taking place in the last two years, and I don't imagine why it would, you guys might know more about it than I do, but yeah, so what you vacate 2022 and 2023, trust me, we already forgot about all those, so I think it's funny.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure you guys saw it, or I sent it to you, but like, I saw the picture
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he was like almost to the diamonds and it says Brendan source be betting on Indiana in 2022.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you haven't seen that, then go look at it or go find his all over Twitter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's crazy is that guy played for like a horrible team just an absolute horrible football team, a horrible product every Saturday and little did he or anyone else know what was about to happen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it sucks for him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully he can get it figured out, but just not a good look.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just not a good look for him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what will really happen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, if they do vacate 2022 or 2023, I don't really care as long as you don't vacate anything from 2425.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know about you, Mike, but I would be surprised if they made IU vacate those wins because he does he bet only bet in games he did not play in that year and he only played in one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I would be a little bit surprised on that if they did, but I'll tell you what, now we know why he was after trying to get as much money as he could in the NL, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, you know, does it affect Indiana?
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[SPEAKER_05]: No, I don't, I truly don't believe so has have I looked at things a little differently since this news is broken.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I went back and looked, Indiana was one in 11, one in 10 against the spread that year I think, one in 11, however many games it ended up being.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Does that kind of raise a red flag?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Maybe I'm not pointing any fingers.
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[SPEAKER_05]: My fear is is that Britain Sours be and this isn't just an Indiana thing.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's not a Purdue thing.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's I think this is a Realistically this is a tip of the iceberg moment to me.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I feel like Yep, it could possibly there's gonna be a lot come Just think a couple weeks ago we only thought Diana Rusini and Mike variables been a weekend together in Arizona
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[SPEAKER_05]: Once things got out, things really started getting out.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Now we're going back six years with those two.
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[SPEAKER_05]: How long is sports gambling been legal in the US?
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[SPEAKER_05]: So let's not also forget, sports is making these bets.
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[SPEAKER_05]: He wasn't of a legal age to do it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: When he was doing it in Vienna, but he was still somehow registered in on these sites to do it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So,
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[SPEAKER_05]: kids, they say, you know, they don't drink anymore.
24:20
[SPEAKER_05]: They don't party anymore.
24:20
[SPEAKER_05]: They don't do things anymore.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, they have other options.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And this is one of the other options.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And a lot more people are doing the online gambling thing.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And I think you're going to find as the years progress more and more of these athletes.
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[SPEAKER_05]: were going to find had some sort of financial stake in these games.
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[SPEAKER_05]: One where the other, they had money on the game.
24:42
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, there was hints of it last year with Oklahoma, John Metier, people finding Vinmo wagers where it looked like he was making bets on games and paying his bookie through Vinmo.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And they kind of just, you know, brush that off and say, oh, that was nothing.
24:58
[SPEAKER_05]: We looked into it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I was nothing.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Well,
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[SPEAKER_05]: eventually nothing turns to something.
25:04
[SPEAKER_05]: And so as be this looks like a minor offense.
25:06
[SPEAKER_05]: And then we find out, but even since this came out, he bet on one Indiana game that he didn't play in.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, now we found out he was sitting in the freaking great American ballpark live betting balls and strikes last year, while a quarterback at Cincinnati during reds games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can tell he started out and then it was become addicted.
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[SPEAKER_00]: to gambling, but I saw somebody write this and they should, it's time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: to really make these gambling people that run these apps because it says you're supposed to be so, but they don't do anything to prove it, they don't let them.
25:43
[SPEAKER_00]: And they said they need to start holding these guys at these gambling organization accountable, accountable.
25:50
[SPEAKER_00]: And I kind of agree with that, but I'm a firm believer, gambling does not belong.
25:56
[SPEAKER_00]: And college sports is only amateur anymore, but it does not belong at the college level
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[SPEAKER_00]: high school levels.
26:04
[SPEAKER_00]: I just think, just say no, I'm just think the NC, of course.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think the NC 2A has been terrible for years.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So well, and the other thing Michelle is like, if you're a player sitting in a state, it used to be, you couldn't bet you an LV in Vegas.
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[SPEAKER_05]: for decades, you couldn't bet a UNLV game in Las Vegas, because the kids are there, they're local.
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[SPEAKER_05]: They don't want the gamblers having any contact with the kids, so you couldn't bet on UNLV.
26:36
[SPEAKER_05]: You shouldn't be able to bet on Indiana football in the state of Indiana.
26:40
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't think.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't think Kentucky fans should be able to bet Kentucky basketball in the state of Kentucky.
26:45
[SPEAKER_05]: It's too tempting for these kids and these, you know, nefarious people, tech and get in their ear and be like, hey,
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[SPEAKER_05]: I've got 50k for you if you throw this and then he goes out and bets himself on the game.
26:58
[SPEAKER_05]: It's we open a box that we didn't necessarily want to open and a sad thing that I saw recently and grant you the youngest person in the room.
27:11
[SPEAKER_05]: You know a lot more people of a certain age than Michelle and I I guarantee it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But the average college mail
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[SPEAKER_05]: is leaving school.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Not only was student loan debt at this point, but gambling debt.
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[SPEAKER_05]: They're putting these wagers on sports games.
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[SPEAKER_05]: They're putting it on a credit card so that they have money in their account and they're losing this hundreds and hundreds of dollars.
27:36
[SPEAKER_05]: And all of a sudden, they're leaving college with gambling debts on a credit card that they can't pay back.
27:43
[SPEAKER_05]: And that's
27:44
[SPEAKER_05]: For all the debauchery and alcohol was this huge horrible thing in college for years, you drank on a weekend.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You felt like shit the next morning, you got up, you did it again the next day.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but you also, but it didn't impact you over the course of your life, the way
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[SPEAKER_05]: a general gambling problem can and it's almost like they just targeted these got the kids of a certain age.
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[SPEAKER_05]: They knew how to hook them with these free bets.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Hey, get in here.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's been $5.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We'll give you a $250.
28:21
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, five.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Anybody who's ever lost money at any sort of gambling, you don't just stop when you lose five dollars.
28:28
[SPEAKER_05]: Now, you keep going, you're gonna lose 500 to try to get that five back.
28:32
[SPEAKER_05]: And we've opened a whole new conversation.
28:35
[SPEAKER_05]: This isn't the Indiana Report anymore, but this is me on my soapbox a little bit.
28:39
[SPEAKER_05]: And I am on every one of these sites that we've mentioned.
28:42
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm not gonna lie, but you know what?
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[SPEAKER_05]: I can financially afford the habit that I have.
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[SPEAKER_05]: College students can't.
28:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the gambling in a way kind of ruins the purity of the sport in a way.
28:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it kind of ruins college athletics maybe not as much of the professional level.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you see so many gambling sites that are sponsors for so many things like quite
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[SPEAKER_01]: what was once like Fox Sports Network rebranded into Valley Sports Network, which is a casino brand or now it's like or it was you know fan dual sports network that that is one of those things where you know gambling and money is starting to come in and I don't want to change this subject and this kind of leads me into the next thing but and I really don't want to spend time talking
29:40
[SPEAKER_01]: But money is what drives everything and money is what's driving.
29:44
[SPEAKER_01]: The NCAA now to explain the 76 fricking teams in the NCAA tournament.
29:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Now starting probably next year, it's pretty much a done deal that it's going to be 76 teams in March Madness, which is a whole other subject for another day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to get anyone fired up because I'll get too fired up talking about it because it's ruining the purity of the game and it's unfortunate that it's happening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All because of some greedyness.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Grant, I'll leave it at this.
30:16
[SPEAKER_05]: This will be short.
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[SPEAKER_05]: The purity of the game will go out the window at noon on Tuesday, next March, when every freaking person who's pretending their pissed off about this is on their phone sitting in front of a television somewhere at a sports bar, and we're just going ballistic.
30:39
[SPEAKER_05]: because Kinosaw State is tipping off against North Akron in a 1616 matchup.
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[SPEAKER_05]: and the tournament started and we're fired up and all of a sudden we don't care if there's 300 and 76 teams in this damn thing the games are on and that's all that matters.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm pumped for it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see more games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It just sucks that it has to be like that and go to 76 teams but you're right.
31:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean we're going to get to the point no one gives a shit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So.
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[SPEAKER_00]: hey you know what somebody said today though they said to make more money because you know they've done the rise to the tournament that the Pryla Amazon or Peacock by the stream era one of those Netflix by the stream that very first round of games I don't think so let's go let's do it let's stop pretending this is college athletics this is an entirely separate
31:41
[SPEAKER_05]: Let's do it.
31:43
[SPEAKER_05]: Let's get rid of a few more women's tennis programs.
31:48
[SPEAKER_05]: Throw more money into football and basketball and let's just let's just go baby.
31:54
[SPEAKER_03]: These Central Indiana Sports Report is a product of ITG media and I love Susie.