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Feminists Around the World: Episcopal Bishop Mariann Budde · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Steffan never told you protection by her.
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  Speaker 1: Radio and for our activists around the world. I thought
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  Speaker 1: we would extend from our Monday MANI and if you're
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  Speaker 1: listening chronologically, which would be amazing and you deserve an award.
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  Speaker 1: This will make sense if not take a minusica listen
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  Speaker 1: to it. But we are talking about Bishop Mary and
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  Speaker 1: Edgar Buddy, her work. It's always been about activism and
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  Speaker 1: though our conversations about Western religion is not good, we don't,
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  Speaker 1: we're not, we're not, We're not a fan. Yeah, Typically,
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  Speaker 1: we definitely wanted to take the time for those who
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  Speaker 1: do what they are called to do and actually speak
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  Speaker 1: up and speak out and love their neighbors. So we
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  Speaker 1: wanted to take the time to talk about Bishop Buddy
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  Speaker 1: and her works. Thus far so Bishop Buddy seems to
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  Speaker 1: be as someone who's been about action and not just words,
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  Speaker 1: which we appreciate. Since becoming the first woman bishop at
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  Speaker 1: the Episcopal Diocese of Washington, where she started, she's done
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  Speaker 1: a lot beforehand. She'd been a parish priest in Minneapolis
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  Speaker 1: for around like eighteen years. She has gone to school
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  Speaker 1: for theology and has been doing this work for a minute.
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  Speaker 1: So Some of her work includes removing of images of
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  Speaker 1: Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson from the church cathedral
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  Speaker 1: windows and replacing it with the image of African American
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  Speaker 1: civil rights activists and their struggles, which we love. Help
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  Speaker 1: in the presiding of internal services over the ashes of
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  Speaker 1: Matthew Sheppard, which his family were fearful of doing due
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  Speaker 1: to anti gay activists and what they would do, but
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  Speaker 1: his remains are now there, safely guarded at the National Cathedral.
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  Speaker 1: She stood up for those who are protesting the murder
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  Speaker 1: of George Floyd when National Guards and police were sent
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  Speaker 1: in so that Trump could have his you know, Bible
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  Speaker 1: hold photo op upside down. No, that was not true.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that. I thought that. I went and looked
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  Speaker 1: at Apparently it was not true. I was gonna say,
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was like so true. I thought so too.
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  Speaker 1: It may have been like rich like maybe adsual, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so I thought so too. I thought so too because
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  Speaker 1: I was like wait upside and then then they're like no, no,
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  Speaker 1: So I was like, ugh, no, I'll give him that.
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  Speaker 1: They someone fixed it for him. And to give more
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  Speaker 1: detail about her involvement with honoring Matthew Shepherd. Here's a
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  Speaker 1: bit from them dot US quote. In twenty eighteen, Buddy
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  Speaker 1: played a significant role in LGBTU plus history when she
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  Speaker 1: oversaw the determine of Matthew Shepard's remains at the National Cathedral,
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  Speaker 1: the same building in which she would address Trump nearly
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  Speaker 1: seven years later. Shepherd was murdered in nineteen ninety eight
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  Speaker 1: and what is still one of the most high profile
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  Speaker 1: hate crime cases in US history, but his parents helped
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  Speaker 1: onto his ashes for twenty years out of fear his
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  Speaker 1: gravesite might be vandalized. Shepherd's remains were interred in the
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  Speaker 1: cathedral's crypt following a memorial service on October twenty six,
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  Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, over which Buddy and openly gay Reverend Ve J.
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  Speaker 1: Robinson presided. So they continue with a quote from a
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  Speaker 1: bishop Buddy saying, there will be young people from all
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  Speaker 1: across the country having tours here and being educated here.
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  Speaker 1: Buddy told mourners at the time, when they pass by,
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  Speaker 1: they will see a plaque in his honor. They will
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  Speaker 1: see that this is a church that has learned from
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  Speaker 1: the example of violence, that we need to stand and
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  Speaker 1: be counted as among those who work for justice and
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  Speaker 1: the full embrace of all God's children. And with all
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  Speaker 1: of that, she was one of two hundreds Christian leaders
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  Speaker 1: and scholars who called for quote preservation of plurist democracy
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  Speaker 1: and opposition to authoritarian rule, citing it was an imperative
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  Speaker 1: of the Christian faith. And that's from her Wikipedia page.
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  Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know, but you know it's validated.
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  Speaker 1: But with all of her work, she has made herself
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  Speaker 1: quite a target. After her speech and prayer during the
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  Speaker 1: inaugural service, many accusing her of using the sin of
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  Speaker 1: empathy take a listen to our Monday Mini and criticizing
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  Speaker 1: her denomination in general as a quote politically motivated religion.
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  Speaker 2: Interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Moving on in her speech, she says this, so we're
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  Speaker 1: going to give a little portion of what she said
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  Speaker 1: that infuriated people.
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  Speaker 2: Quote.
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  Speaker 1: Unity is relatively easy to pray for on occasions of
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  Speaker 1: great slomity. It's a lot harder to realize when we're
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  Speaker 1: dealing with real differences in our private lives and in
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  Speaker 1: the public arena. But without unity, we're building our nation's
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  Speaker 1: house on sand. And with a commitment to unity that
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  Speaker 1: incorporates diversity and transcends disagreement and with the solid foundations
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  Speaker 1: of dignity, honesty, and humility that such unity requires, we
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  Speaker 1: can do our part in our time to realize the
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  Speaker 1: ideals and the dream of America. Let me make one
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  Speaker 1: final theme, mister President. Millions have put their trust in you,
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  Speaker 1: and as you hold the nation yesterday, you have felt
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  Speaker 1: the providential hand of a loving God. In the name
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  Speaker 1: of our God, I ask you to have mercy upon
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  Speaker 1: the people in our country who are scared. Now. There
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  Speaker 1: are gay, lesbians, and transgendered children in democratic, Republican and
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  Speaker 1: independent families, some who fear for their lives. And the people,
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  Speaker 1: the people who pick our crops, clean our office buildings,
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  Speaker 1: who labor in poultry farms and meat packing plants, who
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  Speaker 1: wash the dishes after we eat in restaurants, and work
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  Speaker 1: the night shifts in hospitals. They may not be citizens
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  Speaker 1: or have the proper documentation, but the vast majority of
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  Speaker 1: immigrants are not criminals. They pay taxes, and our good
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  Speaker 1: neighbors that are faithful members of our churches and mosques,
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  Speaker 1: synagogues and temples. I ask you to have mercy, mister President,
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  Speaker 1: on those in our communities whose children fear that their
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  Speaker 1: parents will be taken away, and that you help those
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  Speaker 1: who are fleeing war zones and persecution in their own lands.
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  Speaker 1: May God grant us the strength and courage to honor
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  Speaker 1: the dignity of every human being, to speak the truth
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  Speaker 1: to one another in love and while humbly with each
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  Speaker 1: other and our God, for the good of all people,
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  Speaker 1: the good of all people in this nation and the world.
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  Speaker 1: So this speech was given on January twenty first of
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, and she has had both support and
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  Speaker 1: of course hate. Nowhere in that speech is she telling
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  Speaker 1: them gay people are right or wrong. No where is
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  Speaker 1: this speech saying that this is a sin or not sin.
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  Speaker 1: All she is asking for is humanity, and people lost
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  Speaker 1: their damn minds some people. So she has received thousands
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  Speaker 1: of letters in positive response, I think like twenty thousand
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  Speaker 1: at one point. But she also has had an onslought
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  Speaker 1: of threats and violence aim toward her, so much so
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  Speaker 1: that many women leaders have seen threats towards them within
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  Speaker 1: the church. In fact, this is from baptistnews dot com Wingfield. Wingfield,
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  Speaker 1: who I reference in a Monday many wrote this in
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  Speaker 1: a completely different article. He says conservative outrage over Episcopal
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  Speaker 1: Bishop Maryann Buddies appealed to President Donald Trump to show
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  Speaker 1: mercy is symptomatic of the heresy afflicting the Southern Baptist Convention.
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  Speaker 1: According to social media influencer Megan Basham. As you can imagine,
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  Speaker 1: she is a conservative, right winged Baptist influencer. In response
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  Speaker 1: to buddies Tuesday sermon or Unity, in which she appealed
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  Speaker 1: to Trump to show mercy to immigrants and the LGBTQ community,
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  Speaker 1: Basham posted this, It cannot be said enough that we
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  Speaker 1: have men leading the Southern Baptist Convention who have actively
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  Speaker 1: worked to ensure we follow the same trajectory that led
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  Speaker 1: to this woman occupying a pulpit. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: they are wolves, but I know they are agents of destruction.
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  Speaker 1: I will never stop opposing them in strongest terms. What
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  Speaker 1: I want to know is why they have so little
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  Speaker 1: zeal for their father's house. A woman who has become
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  Speaker 1: a leader within a specific denomination is bashing women leaders,
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  Speaker 1: saying they are wolves. Possibly right what? And I know
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  Speaker 1: like there's a been a whole level of conversation, and
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  Speaker 1: in our future conversation with Molly, she references that hypocrisy,
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  Speaker 1: calling out hypocrisy does not work.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, because I'm what, ma'am, oh, just a least a man,
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  Speaker 3: if at least pretend to be a man, if you're going.
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  Speaker 1: To do this.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, this is an example of people opposing women as leaders.
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  Speaker 1: And we've talked about this. You talked about this specifically
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  Speaker 1: when we were talking about women popes and women leaderships.
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  Speaker 1: We talked about this with U. And then the religious
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  Speaker 1: trauma about why they won't allow for women to be
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  Speaker 1: pastors or the split that happened within churches and within
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  Speaker 1: denominations because of this conversation. Yes, this was specifically from
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  Speaker 1: a woman, and she used this conversation from but who
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  Speaker 1: only said please be nice, please me thought full, kind,
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  Speaker 1: please be human, to say to weaponize it and saying
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  Speaker 1: this is why women shouldn't leave, this is why women
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  Speaker 1: should be.
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  Speaker 2: A pastor, because women are susceptible to the sin of empathy. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: we might actually care about things are And of.
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  Speaker 1: Course Trump was not happy. Here's a quote from MPR
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  Speaker 1: about his reaction. Quote. Trump criticized Buddy's remarks, writing after
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  Speaker 1: midnight Wednesday morning on his Truth social platform. Quote the
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  Speaker 1: so called bishop who spoke at the National Press Service
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  Speaker 1: on Tuesday morning. Was a radical left, hard line Trump hater.
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  Speaker 1: She brought her church into the world of politics in
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  Speaker 1: a very ungracious way. She was nasty in tone and
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  Speaker 1: not compelling or smart. Why does he always have to
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  Speaker 1: end with that like.
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  Speaker 2: He's so he's such a child's Predictable's nasty.
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  Speaker 1: She is nasty. It's not smart.
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  Speaker 2: She doesn't like me.
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  Speaker 1: She's the worst thing. She didn't even really say. She
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  Speaker 1: even graciously says mister President, which I refuse to say. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But she has held fast to her words and does
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  Speaker 1: not offer an apology, she told NPR in that same article.
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  Speaker 1: Despite the backlash, Buddy told NPR that her remarks were
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  Speaker 1: sincere and she did not have any regrets in bringing
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  Speaker 1: them to the president's attention. I don't hate the president,
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  Speaker 1: and I pray for him, but he said, I don't
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  Speaker 1: feel like there's a need to apologize for a request
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  Speaker 1: for mercy. I regret that it was something that has
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  Speaker 1: caused this kind of response that it has in the
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  Speaker 1: sense that it actually confirmed the very thing I was
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  Speaker 1: speaking of earlier, which is our tendency to jump to
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  Speaker 1: outrage and not speak to one another with respect, she continued.
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  Speaker 1: But no, I won't. I won't apologize for what I said.
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  Speaker 1: So thank you to Bishop Buddy who offers that line
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  Speaker 1: of conversation, having the strength to do so in the
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  Speaker 1: face of those who criticize her, and she knew she
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  Speaker 1: would be criticized. She did it with grace, much more
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  Speaker 1: grace than I would. I think she took the high
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  Speaker 1: road for sure, but she was still able to speak up.
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  Speaker 1: So kudos to this activist and thank you for taking
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  Speaker 1: us stand.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and it was one that resonated with a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people. I got a lot of people sent me
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  Speaker 2: those the clips of that speech after it happened, So
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