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Jags Drive Time: Wednesday, January 2 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Jaguars. Did you do Jack, Jack Warris, did you know
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive Time? Ryan Sex steps that John Actually Jaguarris
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Speaker 1: Drive Time starts right now. All right, Welcome to the
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Speaker 1: final Jags Drive Time of the two thousand eighteen season.
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Speaker 1: From this point for where, I think we decided we're
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Speaker 1: gonna do Tuesdays, right, But I don't think we've decided
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Speaker 1: on a time. Maybe we'll stay a thirty. Maybe we
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Speaker 1: should do a little later. What are you thinking like
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Speaker 1: ten o'clock? I think like that. I think the viewers
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Speaker 1: would like a later Do you think so? And left?
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Speaker 1: It's bad luck. You have to make some changes. As
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Speaker 1: you can see, we're a tight ship here. We've got
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Speaker 1: our act together and are going forward in the same direction.
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Speaker 1: Maybe we'll start the show at a thirty and and
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Speaker 1: then you can come in at ten. I don't know
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Speaker 1: what time I'll be down John Deal, who knows uh
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Speaker 1: hetro Fortnato is here. We'll talk with him Stone Colds
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Speaker 1: in the other room. He may shed a tear see
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Speaker 1: end of the season. I think yeah, I think I'll
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Speaker 1: probably make it through. Uh lots to talk about. The
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Speaker 1: first thing is um even though there's a little bit
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Speaker 1: of a lull here. Now for the Jags, well, you know,
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Speaker 1: we wait for the playoffs to play out. Um, they
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Speaker 1: didn't waste a whole lot of time on Monday making
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Speaker 1: some changes. We'll talk about that in big things, UM,
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Speaker 1: but it was kind of interesting. I don't know what
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Speaker 1: you guys saw all access on Monday night. Uh, Calais
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Speaker 1: Campbell was told coming back, which is not really a surprise,
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Speaker 1: but when you consider her salary cap number, um, that
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Speaker 1: they didn't wait, that they said you're worth what we're
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Speaker 1: paying you. He's back. Well, think about what a That
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Speaker 1: might sound very obvious too if there's a faction fans
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Speaker 1: who don't follow the NFL that closely for a long
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Speaker 1: and time. Most of them do. But you know, for
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Speaker 1: somebody his age to basically play at such a high level,
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Speaker 1: even beyond all the good things that he brings off
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Speaker 1: the field, all the intangibles, to play at such a
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Speaker 1: high level where they realize that it's not even an
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Speaker 1: offseason decision considering how many cap decisions they have. It's uh.
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Speaker 1: I don't know that he's a Hall of Famer, but
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Speaker 1: it strikes me that it's too bad for that conversation
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Speaker 1: that he didn't play in this scheme his whole career. Well,
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Speaker 1: you know, Jeff Logeman said the other night that he's
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Speaker 1: still playing at all pro level. Yeah, he didn't get
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Speaker 1: the recognition because the team wasn't as good. Um, well,
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Speaker 1: he has Doug that on Friday about and I think
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Speaker 1: he is playing at the same level we did last year.
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Speaker 1: He had what tennant f stas compared to fourteen how
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Speaker 1: many how much more do they play with the lead
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Speaker 1: last year? Probably the same year in terms of pass
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Speaker 1: rush and from what Doug said, Brian a better year
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Speaker 1: in terms of against the run. Yeah, it shows how
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Speaker 1: important he is. That it wasn't, like you said in
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Speaker 1: a season decision that it was handled the first day
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Speaker 1: brought into the offense said hey, you're coming back. That
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Speaker 1: it was the first thing almost that they addressed, right,
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Speaker 1: And and I don't know that they're going to do anything.
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Speaker 1: They don't have to announce it and they don't have
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Speaker 1: to say anything about what they're gonna do with this contract.
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Speaker 1: But I wouldn't imagine that he's a guy that would
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Speaker 1: take less. He doesn't have to write, because I think
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Speaker 1: it's I don't even know that you can argue it.
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Speaker 1: Although I guess you could say Jalen Ramsey. I thought
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Speaker 1: he was your best player if you're ranking one to
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Speaker 1: fifty three. He was either one or two all season long,
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Speaker 1: and he was more consistent. He didn't have that Indianapolis
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Speaker 1: game like Jalen did, so I would put him number one. Well, yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's why I asked Doug on Friday. It's, uh, you
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Speaker 1: see great players in this league. It's rare to see
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Speaker 1: a guy who plays at the consistency level that he does,
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Speaker 1: who you can tell is prepared and motivated and uh
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Speaker 1: able to fight through injuries the way he did, and
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Speaker 1: so it was remarkable. He really wasn't on the injury
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Speaker 1: port a whole lot. I think it was after the
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Speaker 1: Miami loss. Mike Daroco and I were over by his
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Speaker 1: locker and I Mike asked him about his injuries, and
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Speaker 1: Claius didn't really talk about it, sort of laughed and
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Speaker 1: started going down the list of things had been bothered him,
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Speaker 1: and he and kind of half mentioned something he goes
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Speaker 1: but that's bothered me for a years. I mean, he
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Speaker 1: played through a lot and to do that at his
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Speaker 1: age and to still look like a twenty five year
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Speaker 1: old player. You don't see it very often, and you
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Speaker 1: can go ten fifteen years in this league without seeing
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Speaker 1: it on a team. You're covering thirty five consecutive games
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Speaker 1: for him since he signed here as a free agent,
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Speaker 1: thirty five consecutive for it an over thirty past rushing,
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Speaker 1: run stuffing, defensive ent. And and while we're speaking about
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Speaker 1: that line, calais incredible professional in the locker room. You know,
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Speaker 1: during the losing streak, he was one of the not
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Speaker 1: the first guy that would speak in the locker room.
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Speaker 1: And and you have never been at a post in
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Speaker 1: locker room. To most of our our viewers and listeners,
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Speaker 1: it is not an easy place to be because guys
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Speaker 1: don't want to talk. They don't want to explain what
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Speaker 1: they did wrong with the team did wrong, why they
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Speaker 1: lost second, third, fourth, seventh game in a row. Um,
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure he enjoyed doing it, but he did
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Speaker 1: it consistently every week. It got to the point where
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Speaker 1: you pitied him, he felt bad, you didn't want to
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Speaker 1: go up to him again. But I'm telling you he
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Speaker 1: did it every week. So talk about consistency now, flip side.
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Speaker 1: I don't think any of us expect that Millie Jackson
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Speaker 1: is going to be back. They haven't announced that, but
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Speaker 1: Maligal all but announced that he wouldn't be back. He
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Speaker 1: knows he's not back. Total professional as well, UM top
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Speaker 1: player for two of us three years. This last year
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Speaker 1: he did not have as good a year, and it
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Speaker 1: struck me because he played next to Klis and looked
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Speaker 1: up to Calais and even though they were peers in
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Speaker 1: terms of salary and stature and all of that. UM,
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Speaker 1: I would expect that wherever he lands, if he can
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Speaker 1: still play at a high level. Who knows, maybe there's
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Speaker 1: an injury we don't know about that, he would find
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Speaker 1: a way to get back to that level. But I'll
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Speaker 1: miss the professionalism of Maleek Jackson in the locker room
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Speaker 1: because on Sunday after a loss or win, but a
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Speaker 1: loss in particular, and on Monday and on Wednesday and
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Speaker 1: on Friday, he was a guy, a go to guy
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Speaker 1: in the locker room. From the post three years, we
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Speaker 1: talked about Calais and what he's meant to this franchise
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Speaker 1: on the field and off UM Malik is equal well
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Speaker 1: and don't underestimate um. Leek Jackson when he signed was
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Speaker 1: the top free agent free agency and signed with Jacksonville
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Speaker 1: at a time where most observers wouldn't have believed that,
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Speaker 1: and they were coming off what five and eleven, three
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Speaker 1: and something. I think, uh, whatever it was wasn't good.
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Speaker 1: Most observers wouldn't have thought that, even had you paid
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Speaker 1: the top free agent that that they would come to Jacksonville.
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Speaker 1: He sort of set the tone and helped to sort
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Speaker 1: of make it okay for that next free aging class
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Speaker 1: boy A Campbell, you know, that week. I don't think
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Speaker 1: they had the year they had last year, and I'm
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Speaker 1: not sure he was a big part of of changing
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Speaker 1: that perception that nobody would come to Jacksonville willingly, kind
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Speaker 1: of like Reggie White once did for Green Bay. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and I don't overplay it. I mean they paid him
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Speaker 1: a lot of money. They paid class a lot of money.
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Speaker 1: They paid boy. If they hadn't paid him the most,
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Speaker 1: they probably wouldn't have come. But it's sort of started
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Speaker 1: that turnaround of oh, good players will go to jackson
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Speaker 1: Well they can land those guys. We'll see what, We'll
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Speaker 1: see what comes with this. But first big thing one
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Speaker 1: the people changes reportedly made on Monday night to four
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Speaker 1: assistant coaches with the Jaguars riding back coach coach, Wheatley,
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Speaker 1: Perry Fuel, Pat Flaherty in defensive line coach, and Mary
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Speaker 1: and Hobby. These changes come after Monday when coach Maron
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Speaker 1: said that he would make changes for all the right reasons. Again,
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Speaker 1: that we're going through that right now, you know, um,
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Speaker 1: meaning that we're gonna talk about it. Make sure we're
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Speaker 1: all on the same page. Make sure I'm not making
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Speaker 1: any decision that hasn't been well thought out, making sure
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Speaker 1: that it's not on emotion, making sure that you know, uh,
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Speaker 1: it's for the right reasons and not just a reaction.
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Speaker 1: So he said that Monday afternoon, and then we saw
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Speaker 1: all the changes Monday night. Yeah. Um, those are things
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Speaker 1: that are expected this time. In fact, I asked him
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Speaker 1: in the news conference. And then afterwards, all of a sudden,
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Speaker 1: you've got eight head coach openings, which means eight offensive coordinators,
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Speaker 1: a quarterbacks coaches, every position likely to come open. It's
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Speaker 1: going to be a hot market. In other words, you
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Speaker 1: better get into it and get into it fast if
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Speaker 1: you want to get your offensive coordinator. And you looked
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Speaker 1: acause you know it's that way every year. Um, I
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Speaker 1: don't know that you have eight every year. But they
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Speaker 1: have four openings reportedly now on their staff plus the
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Speaker 1: offensive coordinators, so five. That means the next couple of
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Speaker 1: weeks you're gonna be very busy instead of very quiet
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Speaker 1: on the coaching side. I get the idea that I mean,
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Speaker 1: when Doug talked about the coordinator on Monday, he said
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Speaker 1: it will go quickly and it and he sort of
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Speaker 1: said it not within the context of an answer, but
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Speaker 1: like right after an answer he goes, and it'll go
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Speaker 1: quick I think he's got his guy in mind. I
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Speaker 1: would guess, knowing Doug, he's got a pretty clear idea
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Speaker 1: in mind where he wants to go on all four
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Speaker 1: coaching changes, or he wouldn't have made him. He didn't
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Speaker 1: strike me as the guy who makes change for the
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Speaker 1: sake of change. Excuse me? And Uh. It's funny when
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Speaker 1: there's position coach change, sometimes fans look at it and say, well,
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Speaker 1: the offensive line was injured, the defensive line was Uh
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Speaker 1: was your best unit? Um? The coach head coach has
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Speaker 1: an idea of whether the most is being gotten out
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Speaker 1: of a position, even if it's performing well, And there
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Speaker 1: are often reasons beyond us whether a unit is perceived
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Speaker 1: as a certain kind of unit on why these things
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Speaker 1: are changed. So I was thinking about it and the
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Speaker 1: story obviously with running back is Leonard for net season,
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Speaker 1: t J. Yeldon was not much better. Although they were
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Speaker 1: injured up front, they didn't get a strong season from
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Speaker 1: Andrew Norwell. On the defensive side, Davin Bryant didn't appear
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Speaker 1: to make a whole lot of progress. When they moved
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Speaker 1: him inside, he played much better, but even on Sunday
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Speaker 1: there were a couple of moments where he was free
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Speaker 1: to the outside and one he hit his knees. Um.
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure that that he progressed that same way.
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Speaker 1: In the secondary, it was an issue. Yeah. In the secondary,
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Speaker 1: Bury Church was released, went from being a key contributor
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Speaker 1: last year to being released from the starting lineup and
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Speaker 1: then outright released out the two years. Even last year,
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Speaker 1: there were many many breakdowns, big plays. It was a
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Speaker 1: topic at the end of last year. It was a
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Speaker 1: topic if he recalled her in training camp, them talking
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Speaker 1: about wanting to reduce those. It never did get reduced.
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Speaker 1: Bright the play in the secondary in particular, you could
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Speaker 1: point to boy A who did not have a very
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Speaker 1: good season, or Bury Church. The reality of it is
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Speaker 1: is that these guys are often released based on a
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Speaker 1: decision based on the season that a particular player has
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Speaker 1: or doesn't have. The expectations are there, so it's a
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Speaker 1: tough group to deal with. Now, I mean both groups
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Speaker 1: are tough. Uh. Jalen made great strides, I thought in
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Speaker 1: his professionalism, But Jalen Sean Ramsey, I mean, Sean Gibson,
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Speaker 1: a j boy, a lot of egos and it's not
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Speaker 1: easy as a coach dealing with those egos. Well, consider
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Speaker 1: Unique and Gonkway, who is a terrific player twenty nine
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Speaker 1: and a half sacks in three seasons, but is mercurial.
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Speaker 1: There was a moment on a Sunday during the game
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Speaker 1: where he came off the field and he was hot
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Speaker 1: about something, and he'll get in guys faces. No, in fact,
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Speaker 1: I'm often surprised at how he gets in Calais his
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Speaker 1: face and is seriously yelling at him about something. And
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Speaker 1: Kalais is the perfect person to be able to the
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Speaker 1: guy that you think is a developing young pro was
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Speaker 1: good in the locker room with us. On the field
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Speaker 1: and the heat of the game can be a pain
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Speaker 1: to deal with. So we'll follow these coaching openings five. Now,
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Speaker 1: on the on the staff. I would imagine if they
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Speaker 1: were more coming, I would I wouldn't imagine there are
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Speaker 1: more coming. Yeah, I think I think Todd's safe, Todd
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Speaker 1: Wash And I wonder if, if if Todd won't have
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Speaker 1: more of an influence and a serious discussion with Doug
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Speaker 1: on the direction the defensive line coach would go. Um,
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Speaker 1: I don't know that he can be more involved with
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Speaker 1: his coordinator role. I do know that the defensive line.
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Speaker 1: After on Monday, when the players were being asked about
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Speaker 1: Todd Wash, Avery Jones, unique guys and that's my guy. Um,
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Speaker 1: he's still probably the best option to coach those guys
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Speaker 1: in terms of their fundamentals. Uh So you wonder if
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Speaker 1: he won't have some influence over who is brought in
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Speaker 1: to coach them. That would make the most sense, you
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Speaker 1: would think. We'll certainly find out a big thing too.
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Speaker 1: Big thing too is the plan more disciplined and more involved.
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Speaker 1: We already saw a coach Coughlin have more discipline on
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Speaker 1: this team after the Lennon from Now and c J
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Speaker 1: yeld In situation on Sunday, my own stress on Monday
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Speaker 1: making it known that he wants full involvement out of
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Speaker 1: all of his team in this offseason. You need availability
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Speaker 1: and coach ability. The other thing, the last thing that
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Speaker 1: we we talked about was o T as. We know
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Speaker 1: that they are um not mandatory except for the mini camp,
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Speaker 1: but if you want to build a team and you
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Speaker 1: want to be close, and what's proven, a proven fact
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Speaker 1: is when you're working with teammates and you're competing against him,
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Speaker 1: all right, you will perform higher than if you're not
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Speaker 1: with them. That's been the case since the beginning. So
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Speaker 1: we talked about participation. You know of our players all right,
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Speaker 1: when they come back in phase one, Phase two you
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Speaker 1: know obviously, and obviously the o T s in the
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Speaker 1: minicamps mandatory. The overriding theme here is that they're not
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Speaker 1: just going to get better players to play quarterback or
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Speaker 1: wide receiver or offensive tackle or whatever the position that
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Speaker 1: you choose. They're going to ask the players that they have,
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Speaker 1: even the top line performers, even Jalen Ramsey, to play
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Speaker 1: better and to prepare better. And that was the gist
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Speaker 1: of the message from Doug Moron. Yeah, and I don't
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Speaker 1: know that REALISTICY is gonna get a hundred percent because
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Speaker 1: I don't think realistically twenty is going to be in
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Speaker 1: town that time of year, wouldn't he'd be with his
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Speaker 1: dad working out in Nashville. But the I think the
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Speaker 1: overriding point that Dougs making is Keith. He can't say
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Speaker 1: except you jail, but um, there were Jalen wasn't the
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Speaker 1: only guy. And overall, you need most Like I said
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Speaker 1: when I was in Indianapolis, Marvin Harrison was never there
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Speaker 1: for O t s Well, he's wearing a gold jacket.
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Speaker 1: It's okay, you know it's not ideal, but you can
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Speaker 1: put up with it. Um, most players a need to
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Speaker 1: be here and the overall, uh foundation of the team
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Speaker 1: needs to be here. Meaning okay, one or two missed
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Speaker 1: for personal reasons. Yes, if you if you're just coming
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Speaker 1: in for two or three, you know, you know for
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Speaker 1: two weeks out of the four, it's tougher. You can gotay.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it was Sunday or Monday. Was
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Speaker 1: talking about how that's when the foundation will start, that's
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Speaker 1: when the cultural will start with the lifting, before the
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Speaker 1: voluntary stuff even starts. Um, this was before Doug had
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Speaker 1: stood up on the podium on Monday and talked about it. Uh,
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Speaker 1: I don't know if if it's been conversations from players,
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Speaker 1: from coaches, from Todd and Unique talking, but clearly Unique
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Speaker 1: was already talking about this thing is going to start soon,
16:21
Speaker 1: and it's not going to start necessarily when they say
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Speaker 1: it's going to start, when they tell us it's going
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Speaker 1: to start when there's some you know, league year date start. Uh,
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Speaker 1: it's gonna start when it's hard, when nobody's watching. I
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Speaker 1: thought it was encouraging. You mentioned Unique earlier. Unique talked
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Speaker 1: on Monday about I want to see on my chest
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Speaker 1: next year. Now. I don't know if he'll get it
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Speaker 1: or not, but the fact that he wants that, uh.
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Speaker 1: In tandem was saying that. He also said I'm one
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Speaker 1: of the problems with the defensive personal foul. He didn't
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Speaker 1: say it like that, but he said, I I've done
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Speaker 1: that too much. I've had too many in sports, and
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Speaker 1: like I need to cut that out. Strikes me that
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Speaker 1: there's some change going on from within from a leader.
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Speaker 1: That's important. I think that's very notable self awareness. And
17:09
Speaker 1: you talk about last off scene. We won't always talked
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Speaker 1: about Cam Robinson being in this building every single day.
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Speaker 1: It was like he almost never left in the year
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Speaker 1: and it's unfortunately got an injury, but more people acting
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Speaker 1: like that when no one's watching being in this building
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Speaker 1: in February. I agree with you, Jalen is not going
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Speaker 1: to be the guy who's going to be here, although
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Speaker 1: for all the progress that he made in the leadership
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Speaker 1: side of things and the professionalism side of things, maybe
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Speaker 1: he should be here some even if it's just a
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Speaker 1: day or two a week. Uh. We talked about him
17:36
Speaker 1: becoming the Calais Campbell kind of guy, and certainly if
17:40
Speaker 1: they end up paying him twenty million dollars a year,
17:42
Speaker 1: they're going to expect that kind of stuff. That that's
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Speaker 1: just a side. The point that I wanted to make
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Speaker 1: is that Tom by Slinsky said to me before O
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Speaker 1: t S began last year that these guys can afford
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Speaker 1: once they start to get into shape, they can afford
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Speaker 1: about two weeks of rest before they've to get right
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Speaker 1: back at it or they will lose the progress that
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Speaker 1: they've made. So when you talk about its starting before
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Speaker 1: a date on the calendar or some mandated league year,
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Speaker 1: I expect that you'll start to see players in here
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Speaker 1: at the end of January because they can't afford they're
18:15
Speaker 1: going to work at at home, or they'll go to
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Speaker 1: you know, a gym somewhere around them and not come
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Speaker 1: down here because they want that clear break from being
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Speaker 1: in the building. But it won't be long before they'll
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Speaker 1: be back here if they're serious about it, because they
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Speaker 1: can't afford to fall off. There's not a lot of
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Speaker 1: time there. And the difference between going to an l
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Speaker 1: A Fitness I'm sure and coming here is drastic. I
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Speaker 1: would think, yes, well, and because you and John and
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Speaker 1: I can go to l A Fitness yea or not.
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Speaker 1: A lot of these guys have, uh people that they
18:44
Speaker 1: go to work with. Jalen is high profile manis he
18:48
Speaker 1: works with his dad. Um. A lot of guys that
18:51
Speaker 1: I know, boy and Aaron Colvin work with a guy
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Speaker 1: in Houston and uh, forgive me for not knowing the name,
18:57
Speaker 1: but they're guys in Arizona right. A lot of them
19:00
Speaker 1: to what they feel like our specific position oriented workout facilities.
19:07
Speaker 1: Blake again gets a lot of publicity for going to
19:10
Speaker 1: Tom House in California, But there's different positions like that
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Speaker 1: for different things. So it's not necessarily always a negative
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Speaker 1: to be away. It's just within the context when you've
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Speaker 1: got sixty guys and then ninety guys on the full roster.
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Speaker 1: To have fifteen or twenty people doing their own thing
19:24
Speaker 1: doesn't work. To have a few guys who do their
19:27
Speaker 1: own thing if they're that highly motivated type, can work.
19:31
Speaker 1: But as Doug said, the overriding majority need to be
19:35
Speaker 1: here because most people can't do it on their own. Right,
19:37
Speaker 1: Let's wrap up big things. Big thing three is the process,
19:40
Speaker 1: the schedule in the timeline. This is now the scouts
19:43
Speaker 1: time to shine their busy season. They'll be in the
19:45
Speaker 1: building quite a lot, and then the coaches are working
19:47
Speaker 1: this week. We'll probably have some time off and then
19:49
Speaker 1: your future. But you talked about the availability the five
19:52
Speaker 1: coaching positions now open. It is busier for them at
19:55
Speaker 1: this moment. It doesn't. It doesn't slow down for very
19:58
Speaker 1: long because you're gonna send your entire coaching staff over
20:02
Speaker 1: to Mobile for the Senior Bowl. Scouts will be at
20:05
Speaker 1: the East West Shrine game and then they'll be at
20:07
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. Um. There are so many you know,
20:11
Speaker 1: notches in the calendar here coming up that you know,
20:15
Speaker 1: the combine. It seems like a long way way and
20:17
Speaker 1: you guys are both going to Indianapolis at the end
20:19
Speaker 1: of February. It's not that far thanks. Um. Yeah, and
20:25
Speaker 1: the I know, uh, free agency begins March thirte so
20:32
Speaker 1: the work on that begins. I think the coach will
20:36
Speaker 1: be off next week and be back the following week.
20:39
Speaker 1: I would assume. I don't know that for sure, but
20:41
Speaker 1: once that happens, their schedule starts to become four hours
20:46
Speaker 1: a day where you look at but your team, your
20:50
Speaker 1: position group, and and I really dig down deep in that.
20:53
Speaker 1: And then for a while it's four hours a day
20:55
Speaker 1: on on our perspective free agents. Once that's clear, it's
20:59
Speaker 1: it's the game schedule, preparing for next year, putting in
21:02
Speaker 1: game plans, meeting about how you're gonna approach things next year.
21:05
Speaker 1: And then it becomes four hours a day on our
21:07
Speaker 1: prospective rookies. So it's, um, the calendar is so speed
21:15
Speaker 1: it up. Because of the time that free agency is
21:17
Speaker 1: that there's really not much time off for these guys,
21:20
Speaker 1: probably not enough, to be honest with they probably overdo it.
21:22
Speaker 1: But I don't think Doug's gonna stop that anytime. I wouldn't.
21:26
Speaker 1: Part of the business part of what they signed on for.
21:28
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Speaker 1: us in, scribbling on me. He likes to mess with.
23:52
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that we can't entertain you. All right, go ahead,
23:57
Speaker 1: you tossed over to Jeff. Nobody can do this yet,
24:02
Speaker 1: some not even trying to see if they can't hit
24:07
Speaker 1: that magical moment where they say here is that. That
24:11
Speaker 1: was good. Now, now with all that said and the
24:16
Speaker 1: season being over, I got nothing that's unbelievable entertained. Look,
24:23
Speaker 1: we talked about Calais's consistency in the locker room. How
24:26
Speaker 1: about your consistency. Every week you were able to come
24:28
Speaker 1: up with a song that not only entertained but amused
24:31
Speaker 1: and delighted us. Yeah it was. I think after the
24:33
Speaker 1: Dallas game, I realized it was going to be tough,
24:37
Speaker 1: but you kept fighting. Yeah, it was good. You were
24:39
Speaker 1: willing to come in every week and have something. So, so,
24:41
Speaker 1: at what point in the off season are we going
24:44
Speaker 1: to realize we have Klais Campbell locked up? Is that
24:49
Speaker 1: a trick question because they're gonna like, you know, oh,
24:51
Speaker 1: he's got two more years on his deal. Uh, the
24:55
Speaker 1: deal this year is it's how he goes from like
24:57
Speaker 1: seventeen he's he's actually dropped down to fourteen and a
24:59
Speaker 1: half off this year and the next year goes back
25:02
Speaker 1: to seventeen and a half. Yeah. I think he's asking
25:04
Speaker 1: if they'll be like a news day, like a press
25:06
Speaker 1: release where it comes out with him. There really doesn't
25:09
Speaker 1: have to be, uh, because he's under contract, so there
25:13
Speaker 1: would be no big announcement. It's not like you're going
25:16
Speaker 1: to resign him and say you resigned. I was going
25:18
Speaker 1: to say he's staying. Yeah, I mean there might be
25:22
Speaker 1: there might be a news report from a national type
25:26
Speaker 1: guy saying the Jaguars have restructured, if they even do it.
25:30
Speaker 1: But I think him staying it the other night, that
25:32
Speaker 1: he'd be back and be told he to be back.
25:34
Speaker 1: The only news would be if he's not. At this point,
25:37
Speaker 1: can you play DJ for a minute and hits, you know,
25:41
Speaker 1: special request. My favorite, Hey Joe, song of the year
25:44
Speaker 1: was a shouldn't we playing Gabbert kind of like the
25:51
Speaker 1: Christmas That wasn't true plane, And then we wrote any
26:09
Speaker 1: other favorites that is, no, that's not song. Magic yeah,
26:16
Speaker 1: strange magic yeah, off of Oh, I forget the name
26:20
Speaker 1: of the albums, the one with a Telephone Line, which
26:22
Speaker 1: was a great song that was Yeah, I'm blanking fascinating,
26:30
Speaker 1: I got nothing. I was gonna say it was the
26:32
Speaker 1: album with the spaceship from the cover. They were all
26:34
Speaker 1: the albums. Yeah, yeah, it's true. If you ask her
26:39
Speaker 1: what what does E l O stand for, it's electric
26:45
Speaker 1: light orchestras. Uh. I was not going to guess that
26:48
Speaker 1: they were a actually a violin oriented rock band in
26:52
Speaker 1: the seventies, which uh. And they were actually quite good,
26:55
Speaker 1: very good stuff though you got one I like flexed out,
26:59
Speaker 1: very top of cool. We could made prime time, we
27:03
Speaker 1: could be primetime game, but we're web that time in
27:12
Speaker 1: our lives so long ago. God, it was so naive,
27:17
Speaker 1: so young, hurt by the way. They were all good, Joe,
27:20
Speaker 1: why don't you play your favorite my favorite? That's his
27:24
Speaker 1: wife saying, there you go Johnny, you're a good joke.
27:38
Speaker 1: I don't call him the best player by playing man
27:40
Speaker 1: in the business for nothing. You if you need him
27:45
Speaker 1: to be Selam al right here, we're not gonna do
27:50
Speaker 1: it again, So we're not playing that song twice. I
27:52
Speaker 1: don't think we can buy by license. I can't play
27:56
Speaker 1: twice in the same show. So let's hit it with
27:58
Speaker 1: the one snapshot John from Jacksonville writing into yourself again,
28:02
Speaker 1: I see happy new year, John. A lot of talk
28:05
Speaker 1: about moving on the fans on to movem on after
28:07
Speaker 1: a bad stretch with Tom Coughlin, and how did that
28:09
Speaker 1: work out for us? The Steelers, on the other hand,
28:11
Speaker 1: seem to opt for stability in coaching, and I would
28:14
Speaker 1: trade our win lost record for their's, wouldn't you. Yeah,
28:18
Speaker 1: this is is. It's such a tough topic because if
28:22
Speaker 1: if you follow this league for a long time, you
28:25
Speaker 1: realize stability is is always or not always most of
28:31
Speaker 1: the time, it's better, it's what you want. Over all,
28:36
Speaker 1: the franchise probably would have been better off had they
28:39
Speaker 1: had they ridden it out, figured out a way to
28:41
Speaker 1: move forward with Tom. This is back, you know, oh
28:43
Speaker 1: two or three, I get that, but I disagree though, well,
28:48
Speaker 1: as a coach. I mean, you know, if you change,
28:51
Speaker 1: we'll go ahead. You say what you're saying, then I'll
28:52
Speaker 1: tell figure a way to change the dynamic. But it's
28:56
Speaker 1: so tough because like Adam Gaze this year for Examp
29:00
Speaker 1: gets fighting for seven and nine to seven and nine seasons,
29:04
Speaker 1: So they're gonna you know, I'm not criticizing the Dolphins
29:07
Speaker 1: for this, it's it's most franchises to do it this way.
29:10
Speaker 1: Now you're gonna go out and get the next Adam
29:11
Speaker 1: Gaze or the next defensive version of Adam Gaze when
29:15
Speaker 1: you probably weren't that far to begin with. You liked
29:18
Speaker 1: the guy for a reason, Steve Wilkes, all of a sudden,
29:21
Speaker 1: you can't coach um. But there is such enormous pressure
29:26
Speaker 1: if you don't make the playoffs to change something, and
29:29
Speaker 1: and the thing you can change is the head coach.
29:32
Speaker 1: So usually what happens is the stability you want comes
29:36
Speaker 1: from winning. Winning brings you stability, and it it sort
29:41
Speaker 1: of cycles through when what you would love to have
29:44
Speaker 1: is the three four years to establish it and then
29:48
Speaker 1: get it going. But you'll never have that anymore. They
29:51
Speaker 1: try to hear with guys, yeah, it didn't work out
29:52
Speaker 1: because they didn't find the quarterback that would change things,
29:55
Speaker 1: and so the best model of stability the extreme stabilities
29:59
Speaker 1: the Steelers. In nineteen sixty nine, they hired Chuck Noll
30:04
Speaker 1: and drafted Terry Bradshaw shortly thereafter. And since then, which
30:08
Speaker 1: is fifty years, they have hired Chuck Noll. Chuck retired,
30:12
Speaker 1: They hired Bill Kawer. Bill Kawer retired, They hired Mike Tomlin.
30:16
Speaker 1: Tom is still there. They all won super Bowls through
30:20
Speaker 1: and Tomlin three coaches through some seasons that other franchises
30:26
Speaker 1: would have parted with. You have to and with Chuck
30:28
Speaker 1: in the eighties, there were a couple of seasons there
30:30
Speaker 1: where it wasn't going well, So you had to see
30:32
Speaker 1: that one through now to Tom. Uh The reality of
30:36
Speaker 1: it with with Tom as the head coach and the
30:39
Speaker 1: personnel boss here was something had to change. He had
30:43
Speaker 1: way too much power, way too much control, and you
30:45
Speaker 1: couldn't say to him in two thousand and two going
30:48
Speaker 1: into two thousand three, hey you're no longer in charge
30:51
Speaker 1: of personnel anymore and have him just coach. The dynamic
30:54
Speaker 1: with his personality wasn't going to work. He went off,
30:57
Speaker 1: set out a year, then went to New York, where
31:00
Speaker 1: as a human being he evolved, as a coach evolved.
31:02
Speaker 1: He's a great coach, and he became the best version
31:07
Speaker 1: of himself, the coach where he just coached. They gave
31:10
Speaker 1: me El Manning. He took that team and in two
31:14
Speaker 1: years that they were wild cards, won the Super Bowl,
31:16
Speaker 1: which tells you what kind of Hall of Fame coach.
31:19
Speaker 1: But I don't think that naturally we would have seen
31:22
Speaker 1: that here if nothing changed here. I think the adversity
31:26
Speaker 1: that he faced in that year two thousand three changed
31:29
Speaker 1: his approach slightly and he became the best coach. I
31:33
Speaker 1: don't agree that if he had stayed we would have
31:35
Speaker 1: just seen super bowls here. I think he would tell
31:38
Speaker 1: you himself in his own words, that he became better
31:41
Speaker 1: at what he did by only focusing on what he did.
31:44
Speaker 1: He was the coach in New York, not the personnel boss,
31:47
Speaker 1: and he was at his best when he just coached.
31:50
Speaker 1: The stability factor. Again, it is why, particularly Doug Marron,
31:54
Speaker 1: I think keeping him as the right move. Again, it
31:58
Speaker 1: goes back to he was four minutes from the Super
32:02
Speaker 1: Bowl and I thought did a magnificent job last year.
32:05
Speaker 1: I all of a sudden, he's forgotten how to do it.
32:09
Speaker 1: You know, in one year I was a saying he's
32:10
Speaker 1: a bad coach. So I am glad that he is
32:17
Speaker 1: getting another chance to write this ship and to do
32:19
Speaker 1: it right, because I just think overall, too many coaches
32:24
Speaker 1: get fired far too quickly in this league, and it's
32:27
Speaker 1: it's only getting worse. Someone and I wish I had
32:31
Speaker 1: someone tweeted out shortly after Lincoln Riley signed his extension
32:35
Speaker 1: the last few days with the University of Oklahoma Banks
32:38
Speaker 1: NFL and meaning eight guys fired guys on you know,
32:43
Speaker 1: first second, third year of their deals, let go. So
32:49
Speaker 1: I do think that you're going to see some bright
32:50
Speaker 1: coaches with stability in college stay because why jump into
32:55
Speaker 1: this you know, fire pist for what it is. But
32:58
Speaker 1: I did think to ask you this, if Doug Moron
33:01
Speaker 1: had been fired on Sunday night or Monday morning, would
33:04
Speaker 1: he be interviewing for any of these other eight jobs?
33:06
Speaker 1: I think so, without a doubt he would have. If
33:09
Speaker 1: not this year, hed have certainly been back in the
33:12
Speaker 1: rotation this year. I think he would have been in
33:14
Speaker 1: this year. I've had some people that I've talked to
33:16
Speaker 1: around the league the last two days who said if
33:18
Speaker 1: the Jaguars had let Doug Maron go, he would have
33:20
Speaker 1: a job this year. That's how highly regarded he is,
33:23
Speaker 1: despite the fact that this year was a bit of
33:25
Speaker 1: a dumpster fire. Well, here's the absurdity of it. And again,
33:30
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to pick on the Dolphins. I'm just
33:31
Speaker 1: using it as an example because I read this um
33:36
Speaker 1: Adam Gaze gets fired. I saw a tweet very I
33:40
Speaker 1: think it was from Schefter. Basically the wording was Adam
33:47
Speaker 1: Gaze interviewing for his next head coaching job in and
33:52
Speaker 1: I think, uh, wherever it was. It was funny. The
33:55
Speaker 1: wording assumed that he's gonna go credit he didn't coach
34:00
Speaker 1: somewhere else. He's been linked to Arizona and Cleveland already. Right, Well,
34:05
Speaker 1: I thought you couldn't coach. I thought he's terrible. Well,
34:09
Speaker 1: and that's what you're getting way too much of. And again,
34:13
Speaker 1: a lot of it is I understand why owners do
34:16
Speaker 1: it because at some point after two or three years now,
34:20
Speaker 1: you can't sell it. Well, you can't do that, and
34:23
Speaker 1: that comes into play, and that's where you want to
34:25
Speaker 1: get to. That's where this franchise and it's fan base
34:28
Speaker 1: should want to be don't make football decisions based on
34:32
Speaker 1: selling tickets. But realistically, two thirds of the league has
34:35
Speaker 1: to do it. You can you can name on one
34:37
Speaker 1: hand that the teams that truly don't have patriotically as
34:42
Speaker 1: patriots can do it because they've won Patriots. But if
34:45
Speaker 1: they right back to right. But well, but at some
34:48
Speaker 1: point you turn that on. I think serious the only
34:50
Speaker 1: team that really does it well. I don't think the
34:52
Speaker 1: Packers do. The Broncos never did they do now though
34:56
Speaker 1: both of them, I mean they're going through my water. Now.
35:00
Speaker 1: Think the Giants hired or fire or you know, I
35:05
Speaker 1: think there are a dozen teams the Eagles do it. Yeah,
35:11
Speaker 1: I think there's half a dozen teams that don't have
35:13
Speaker 1: to read he was winning. But you have to be
35:16
Speaker 1: one of those franchises. And it's the people in charge
35:19
Speaker 1: really could drive this thing in the fan base too.
35:22
Speaker 1: You don't want to see them throw out a coach
35:25
Speaker 1: because of ticket sales or hire a coach because of tickets.
35:30
Speaker 1: What let me ask you this question and then we'll
35:32
Speaker 1: move on to the next one. What if they had
35:34
Speaker 1: signed Tim Tebow at the end of the little run,
35:37
Speaker 1: Because it'll sell tickets. Where would they be now? It
35:40
Speaker 1: wouldn't sold tickets for very long, right, he's been out
35:43
Speaker 1: of the league. Every team has had a chance to
35:46
Speaker 1: sign him every year for the last five years and
35:48
Speaker 1: none of them have. But if the Jaguars had signed
35:50
Speaker 1: him for tickets, it would have been an absurd decision.
35:53
Speaker 1: Don't make decisions as best you can based on selling tickets,
35:58
Speaker 1: because people will buy the tickets if you make the
36:00
Speaker 1: right decision for football reasons. And that's what you have
36:03
Speaker 1: to realize. And again, I think shot as much as
36:06
Speaker 1: possible for still a relatively young on I say young.
36:09
Speaker 1: He's been tries to give them the flexibility. He does
36:13
Speaker 1: everything he can with a young market and a team
36:17
Speaker 1: that's struggling to try to get to that model. It's
36:20
Speaker 1: very difficult, dude. If you're working to get to the model,
36:23
Speaker 1: whether you get there or not, you're doing the right thing.
36:25
Speaker 1: Do you have time for a rant here? Bring on
36:29
Speaker 1: this whole idea and I've talked about it before that
36:33
Speaker 1: the Jaguars don't put fans in the seats, right. Jaguar's
36:37
Speaker 1: last two Division games on the road when against Tennessee
36:40
Speaker 1: and Houston, in games where Tennessee and Houston has been Hey,
36:47
Speaker 1: I've been fighting for playoffs births. Tennessee didn't make it,
36:50
Speaker 1: but the time the Jaguars played him Houston the other day.
36:54
Speaker 1: It is fighting for a playoff spot or they're in
36:58
Speaker 1: it and they're fighting for the divis vision. Did you
37:00
Speaker 1: see the empty seats there? Everywhere? You see the empty
37:03
Speaker 1: seats in Tennessee. Look at the at the home side
37:09
Speaker 1: upper deck was almost entirely last week. What would the
37:14
Speaker 1: attendants out here on Sunday have been if the Jaguars
37:17
Speaker 1: had clinched the division title and we're playing for playoff
37:20
Speaker 1: seating against the Texans. Much greater, much great maybe sixty,
37:25
Speaker 1: but much much greater. So don't tell me that the
37:27
Speaker 1: fans here and this city doesn't support it. It is
37:31
Speaker 1: universal everywhere. There maybe four or five franchises late in
37:34
Speaker 1: the season, they're gonna be packing things now with TV
37:37
Speaker 1: whatever it is. Those two cities have much better reputations
37:41
Speaker 1: league wide for fans it And I'm not picking on
37:44
Speaker 1: Houston or Tennessee. It's it's a thing league wide. If
37:48
Speaker 1: you're not winning late in the season, you're gonna have
37:52
Speaker 1: problems putting people in the seats. But you can't tell
37:55
Speaker 1: me that the Jaguars had they had this team been better,
38:00
Speaker 1: There's no way that the seats would have looked like
38:02
Speaker 1: they looked in a Tennessee and Houston. I'm tired of it.
38:05
Speaker 1: It's making me angry, and I made us fall off
38:08
Speaker 1: my well, let me let me just tag one thing
38:10
Speaker 1: on and then we'll get a big thing, or we'll
38:11
Speaker 1: get to the second ozone. Miami is an embarrassment for
38:14
Speaker 1: a franchise that has the only and they were still
38:18
Speaker 1: in it, the only, the only modern era undefeated team,
38:21
Speaker 1: three super Bowl championships, a great stadium. That stadium, hard
38:26
Speaker 1: Rock Stadium renovated is fantastic. There was no if it
38:31
Speaker 1: looked like that. If Jacksonville in Week seventeen, competing for
38:37
Speaker 1: the playoffs had looked like Houston or Miami, it would
38:40
Speaker 1: have gone viral on Twitter without it, Oh look at
38:42
Speaker 1: the jack look at Jacksonville. It is Oh, that's why
38:50
Speaker 1: that's where I'm at this partially you, Joe, that's enough
38:58
Speaker 1: for John The next napshot? Please do you guys such
39:02
Speaker 1: the s h from jacksonvill makeup play for Antonio Brown
39:06
Speaker 1: if the Steelers are looking to trade him out of
39:08
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh or nah, I'm still wow. I bet the last
39:14
Speaker 1: I've been known to rant about that before. I don't
39:18
Speaker 1: think it happens because I think Antonio Brown can talk
39:21
Speaker 1: all he wants about wanting out of Pittsburgh. Um, I
39:25
Speaker 1: think the Steelers. My impression of it from Afar is
39:28
Speaker 1: that the Steelers sort of get what he's going to be,
39:32
Speaker 1: that this is going to happen, that there's going to
39:33
Speaker 1: be this stuff, and that he's way too good for
39:36
Speaker 1: them to let go. If if not, I just don't
39:39
Speaker 1: know that right now with the culture around here, that
39:42
Speaker 1: you bring another in, it's a problem. So Levan Bell
39:48
Speaker 1: is there great example. They did not cater to him,
39:52
Speaker 1: they did not give in, and they did not make
39:55
Speaker 1: the playoffs. They missed him this year. Antonio Brown over
40:00
Speaker 1: last six seasons averages a hundred and fourteen catches, fifteen
40:05
Speaker 1: hundred yards and twelve touchdowns. He's thirty, and he's making
40:11
Speaker 1: a really reasonable number twelve six this year, eleven three
40:15
Speaker 1: next year, twelve six, and nineteen then eleven three, then
40:19
Speaker 1: twelve five. If they would take something reasonable for him, sure,
40:24
Speaker 1: I would say do it in a heartbeat. And I'm
40:25
Speaker 1: the guy that generally says over thirty big cap number. No,
40:29
Speaker 1: but I'm telling you he's an exception. He would be
40:31
Speaker 1: the exception. I'm with you. There's no way they're letting
40:34
Speaker 1: him go on the heels of Levian Belt. And I
40:37
Speaker 1: wonder right now, with what they keep saying about culture,
40:41
Speaker 1: cultural culture, culture culture, that's a valid point. I just
40:44
Speaker 1: don't know if they would try to do that. Um,
40:49
Speaker 1: you another guy like that in your locker? Well, yeah,
40:51
Speaker 1: And I don't say like that because I've never covered Antonia,
40:54
Speaker 1: so I don't know what he's really like. I mean,
40:56
Speaker 1: there's a perception out there that Jalen is a bad guy.
40:59
Speaker 1: Leonardslee sort of not well, but I'm saying most people
41:03
Speaker 1: nationally would sit there and say, well, Jan Ramsey character
41:05
Speaker 1: issue all that, and I don't think he is. So
41:08
Speaker 1: I hate to say it about Antonio Brown when I
41:10
Speaker 1: don't really know him, but that's sort of the perception.
41:14
Speaker 1: So I don't know that you want to bring that in.
41:16
Speaker 1: Accept he's really really good, really really good, still good
41:19
Speaker 1: and reasonably prized, which is why they're not letting him go.
41:22
Speaker 1: But you need someone to throw to him. Well, I
41:24
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41:26
Speaker 1: next week show. All Right. The last zone of the
41:30
Speaker 1: last two that was neat Team drivetime, Stephen John The
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Speaker 1: Bordle's extension was intended to get the team to draft
41:38
Speaker 1: to find a quarterback. Now that the offenses and shambles,
41:41
Speaker 1: it appears that the timetable has just moved up a
41:43
Speaker 1: year or has it. Would it be a crazy idea
41:45
Speaker 1: to sign a guy for two years, or maybe trade
41:47
Speaker 1: for Tannehill and drafting the guy in and have him
41:51
Speaker 1: ready to go. Yeah, I just don't think, um, that
42:00
Speaker 1: you can keep waiting, keep kicking a bat, kicking a bat,
42:03
Speaker 1: kicking it back. Um, maybe something happens that changes that.
42:08
Speaker 1: If if a Folds or a Flacco, if they love him,
42:12
Speaker 1: I don't feel that. I don't know. Um. I think
42:15
Speaker 1: at this point you are in a situation now where
42:19
Speaker 1: you probably draft a quarterback every two years until you
42:24
Speaker 1: find your guy. You take your guy in the first
42:26
Speaker 1: round this year, play him two years if he's not
42:29
Speaker 1: the guy, it's so early in the process. Yeah. I
42:34
Speaker 1: watched Dwayne Haskins yesterday from Ohouse Date. I take that
42:38
Speaker 1: in a heartbeat, even if I have to trade up
42:40
Speaker 1: to Arizona at number one to get him. I would
42:45
Speaker 1: like to have that. I watched DeShawn Watson on Sunday
42:50
Speaker 1: in Houston, and I was remorseful for the Jaguars selection
42:53
Speaker 1: of Leonard for net. I thought, how much better this
42:56
Speaker 1: franchise would be with Deshaun Watson, who is a strong
43:00
Speaker 1: character guy, a strong football player, and a guy that
43:04
Speaker 1: you can build your future around. Everything I read about
43:09
Speaker 1: Haskins and what I watched says the same thing. If
43:12
Speaker 1: I have to trade up to get the quarterback, and
43:15
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43:18
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43:22
Speaker 1: wait any longer. I'm willing to give up something to
43:25
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43:27
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43:29
Speaker 1: some point, you gotta go get Did he seem remorseful
43:31
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43:34
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43:37
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43:39
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43:42
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Jack's Drive time. Just before we do
45:33
Speaker 1: the playoffs, Just back to the point you were talking
45:36
Speaker 1: about not waiting, you know, and getting on with it.
45:39
Speaker 1: And there are people that will look at the Jaguars
45:41
Speaker 1: decision could keep the core of their defense together, think, well,
45:43
Speaker 1: you gotta go get a veteran so that you can
45:45
Speaker 1: win now and take advantage of the salary that you're spending.
45:49
Speaker 1: But you look at the Shawn Watson, who essentially was
45:52
Speaker 1: still a rookie this year because he had not played
45:54
Speaker 1: a full season, and look what he has done. Despite
45:57
Speaker 1: the slow start, he took off and went There isn't
46:00
Speaker 1: anything to keep Ben Roethlisberger get Hall of Famer one
46:04
Speaker 1: eleven games as the starting quarterback as a rookie in Pittsburgh.
46:09
Speaker 1: I don't think you could afford to do the Kirk
46:10
Speaker 1: Cousins thing here, because all he did was get the
46:12
Speaker 1: Vikings to eight seven and one, and he had a
46:14
Speaker 1: big year well, in twenty nine touchdowns, a passer rating
46:18
Speaker 1: at ninety nine point seven four thousand yards. I understand
46:20
Speaker 1: the rookie quarterback fear, and I'm you know, I'm friendly
46:24
Speaker 1: believed the rookie quarter is gonna lose you a few
46:26
Speaker 1: games just because he's a rookie quarterback. Um. At the
46:28
Speaker 1: same time, five and eleven this year, we've gone over
46:32
Speaker 1: the numbers. You feel like, with a slightly better offense
46:36
Speaker 1: that they could have won four or five more games. Um,
46:38
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield comes to mind right now. Well, as bad
46:42
Speaker 1: as the offense was, even with the rookie quarterback, if
46:45
Speaker 1: they make fixes, is it going to be worse? No?
46:48
Speaker 1: I mean so, so, maybe you have maybe you have
46:50
Speaker 1: a reasonably priced veteran that bridges you too to the
46:53
Speaker 1: point that he's ready to go. But again, Baker Mayfield,
46:56
Speaker 1: this year, they weren't winning and then Mayfield all of
46:58
Speaker 1: a sudden, gut in there and Huge Jackson left and
47:00
Speaker 1: Greg Williams came in and they changed the approach a bit.
47:03
Speaker 1: But they were in the playoff hunt at the end
47:05
Speaker 1: of the rookie season, which is where you would like
47:07
Speaker 1: this team to be. He lost game, but want him
47:09
Speaker 1: a lot to no doubt, which is why you shouldn't
47:11
Speaker 1: be scared of a rookie quarterback. If the evaluation is correct,
47:15
Speaker 1: and we have seen not Yeah, it's not always not
47:17
Speaker 1: always correct. Okay, wild card time. Just to run through
47:19
Speaker 1: these real quick playoffs, he never misses it. Colts a Texans.
47:25
Speaker 1: Colts should have beaten them twice this year. They beat
47:28
Speaker 1: them soundly the last time they played. I really I'm
47:32
Speaker 1: not sure what to make of the Colts. I really
47:34
Speaker 1: like the Texans scheme right now. I think that DeAndre
47:37
Speaker 1: Hopkins is playing out of his mind. Uh did Dave
47:40
Speaker 1: and Clowney and J. J. Watt didn't wreck the Jaguars defense.
47:45
Speaker 1: But I'm sorry offense, but you know they're capable of
47:48
Speaker 1: doing it on any given day. I like the Texans here.
47:51
Speaker 1: Like the Texans, Colts just seem to be rolling nine
47:54
Speaker 1: straight wins. Have found their way. Well, they don't have
47:56
Speaker 1: nine straight, but I would think that they seem to
48:00
Speaker 1: have found their way. If I'm a team, I don't
48:01
Speaker 1: want to play the Colts right now. Yeah, and there
48:06
Speaker 1: they were one in five and one nine in the
48:09
Speaker 1: last ten. Lux the best quarterback in this game, and
48:13
Speaker 1: the Texans don't really have any sort of a hex
48:17
Speaker 1: over this team, um as any of the Colts winning.
48:22
Speaker 1: Moving right along. Saturday Night, Seahawks at the Cowboys. No,
48:31
Speaker 1: everyone's going back to that wasn't two thousand? What year
48:33
Speaker 1: was that six six? Or it was the O six playoffs?
48:36
Speaker 1: He bobbled the snap. Yeah, we think I like the
48:43
Speaker 1: Seahawks here, and I'm picking two road teams Jeans, I'm
48:47
Speaker 1: gonna lose one of them. I think the Seahawks are hot,
48:50
Speaker 1: They're back. I think they have become the modern day
48:53
Speaker 1: version of that sounds silly of what the Ravens have
48:58
Speaker 1: been for so long in the in the a f C.
49:01
Speaker 1: A team that has shown now that it can withstand
49:04
Speaker 1: massive personnel change and maintain. I thought they were going
49:09
Speaker 1: to be five and eleven this year, and so it'll
49:13
Speaker 1: be close. Um. I just kind of feel like the
49:16
Speaker 1: Seahawks somehow, with their defense and their running game. Uh,
49:22
Speaker 1: maybe I'm just leaning on the fact that the Cowboys
49:24
Speaker 1: using figure out a way to lose these in the playoffs.
49:26
Speaker 1: Like Russell Wilson a lot and I have been impressed
49:29
Speaker 1: with the way that they shifted from a defensive focused
49:32
Speaker 1: team to a quarterback centric team, and the switch was
49:37
Speaker 1: getting rid of some personnel. But it's Russell Wilson's team
49:41
Speaker 1: plays well on the road. I think that they win,
49:44
Speaker 1: They're still play into that formula because there's still a
49:46
Speaker 1: pretty good defensive team there. There's there Wilson centric, but
49:54
Speaker 1: their defense is brought in back this year. I mean
49:55
Speaker 1: they're back to that formula and he is throwing the
50:00
Speaker 1: ball to the back side of the backfield. That They've
50:02
Speaker 1: got a lot of different choices. They're based on the
50:04
Speaker 1: draft and the players that they've brought in, and he's
50:05
Speaker 1: a good coach. Um team that seemed to come out
50:08
Speaker 1: of nowhere kind of Seattle. We weren't talking about them
50:11
Speaker 1: a month ago, and you're going with, Okay, Sunday, here's
50:15
Speaker 1: another rookie quarterback. By the way, we talked about Baker Mayfield.
50:19
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson picked up a Ravens team that was floundering,
50:24
Speaker 1: and with his legs and his arm, he has made
50:27
Speaker 1: some things happened. This is an interesting one because the
50:29
Speaker 1: Chargers just laid down against these guys in a game
50:32
Speaker 1: that if the Chargers had won, they would be sitting
50:35
Speaker 1: off this week and they'd be by right. Instead, they
50:38
Speaker 1: have to go now and beat the Ravens in Baltimore
50:40
Speaker 1: lost by twelve points just two weeks ago. I'm going
50:43
Speaker 1: with the Chargers in this one. I'm going with Philip Rivers.
50:45
Speaker 1: I think they figured out on the road. Yeah, I'm
50:51
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the Ravens and what would be
50:52
Speaker 1: an upset. This is a huge game for Philip Rivers
50:56
Speaker 1: because the he's a he's a fantastic quarterback. But the
51:00
Speaker 1: narrative a little bit is, well, can't get it done
51:02
Speaker 1: in the playoffs fairly unfairly um and then they didn't
51:06
Speaker 1: look good. They've had a tendency to fade. They've been really,
51:09
Speaker 1: really good most of the season. They look bad against
51:11
Speaker 1: the team. There's a lot of pressure on him. They
51:13
Speaker 1: won big games on the road Sunday Night Football, Thursday
51:17
Speaker 1: Night Football, Pittsburgh, Kansas City. We'll see. That's the game
51:20
Speaker 1: he has to win Philip Rivers if you're him, which
51:24
Speaker 1: were not, and they'll wrap it up at Soldier Field
51:26
Speaker 1: on Sunday afternoon with the Eagles, who found their way
51:29
Speaker 1: into the playoffs against the Bears, team that has been
51:32
Speaker 1: consistently good this season. I don't know that they've had
51:35
Speaker 1: one of those games where you went, yeah, that it's
51:37
Speaker 1: not them. I usually like hot team in this situation,
51:39
Speaker 1: so I would usually go with the Eagles sort of
51:41
Speaker 1: put you know, playing that Jaguars role in nineties six
51:44
Speaker 1: where you you kind of sneak in. But I think
51:47
Speaker 1: the Bears are the are the most underrated team in
51:49
Speaker 1: the league, and uh, with their defense, I think they've
51:52
Speaker 1: got a chance to go all the way. I don't
51:54
Speaker 1: think they will, but I don't think it's as absurd
51:56
Speaker 1: as maybe that just sounded. But I think in this
51:59
Speaker 1: gaming it's a wild card team that's really beat up.
52:01
Speaker 1: I think the Bears went it was it was worth
52:03
Speaker 1: questioning how much they gave up for Colola Mac and
52:07
Speaker 1: now you wonder why other teams didn't step up the world.
52:10
Speaker 1: Their defense in the running game makes it easy for
52:12
Speaker 1: the quarterback, and Mattneggie has done a sensational job at
52:17
Speaker 1: getting this offense on track, finding the strengths of the
52:20
Speaker 1: quarterback and playing to it. I'm going with the Bears
52:23
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52:26
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54:22
Speaker 1: could do top tweets. I didn't. It was a big ask.
54:26
Speaker 1: It wasn't really big ask. But it's accomplished. I'm not
54:28
Speaker 1: lowering the bar, John. Top tweets is important. We got
54:30
Speaker 1: a lot going on what she did when she left
54:32
Speaker 1: the boards, which is fine. I was there. You have
54:36
Speaker 1: to wait, you were here, You were here. Sometimes they
54:39
Speaker 1: wonder you'll have to wait till next week. I know
54:41
Speaker 1: you'll be waiting anxiously. Not lowering the part. Only racing
54:45
Speaker 1: John are good pal Pete Frisco Steelers. In the Jaguars,
54:50
Speaker 1: two teams undone by players who think they are bigger
54:53
Speaker 1: than the game, and in some cases guys who don't
54:55
Speaker 1: care enough. This was definitely about Antonio Brown. Steelers wise, well,
55:00
Speaker 1: I think it was about leaving a Bell because the yeah,
55:04
Speaker 1: the Antonio Brown stuff was later in the season. It
55:06
Speaker 1: was it was Bell who didn't report and didn't give
55:09
Speaker 1: them a vital weapon, and Leondard Frenette who was here
55:13
Speaker 1: but it wasn't Yeah, it was um yeah, and the
55:18
Speaker 1: Levy on Bell. I don't know that that I brought
55:22
Speaker 1: down the Steelers as much as Connor's injury later in
55:25
Speaker 1: the season. You know, if you had both of those
55:27
Speaker 1: games like themselves and uh so, yeah, he's pretty accurate,
55:32
Speaker 1: PiZZ right. I don't know Bell well enough to know
55:35
Speaker 1: that that guy who doesn't care enough label fits. But
55:41
Speaker 1: to me, my impressions in my interaction with Leonard Frenette
55:44
Speaker 1: this year told me he didn't care enough about being
55:47
Speaker 1: a prosy if he If he does, it hasn't shown. Okay,
55:54
Speaker 1: all right, let's go to our guy. Jalen Ramsey New
55:56
Speaker 1: Year's Eve tweet be in the best year of my life.
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Speaker 1: I made a ton of mistakes. I learned from them all.
56:02
Speaker 1: Most importantly to me, I grew more than ever with
56:05
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56:07
Speaker 1: for it all. More blessings and more joy in two
56:10
Speaker 1: thousand nineteen. I'm claiming this to me underscores what we've
56:15
Speaker 1: been talking about since that Indianapolis game and how he
56:18
Speaker 1: has made great strides in the locker room as a person.
56:23
Speaker 1: I would like to see him smile his hashtag no smile,
56:26
Speaker 1: but I'm happy. Okay. Let you know, I'm thinking strongly
56:31
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56:34
Speaker 1: Jalen's wardrobe this year. I think I can pull it off.
56:37
Speaker 1: I think it's me. I think I can. I can.
56:39
Speaker 1: I can pull off the haircut. I think if there's
56:43
Speaker 1: no if you could off the haircut, I think I
56:46
Speaker 1: think that's the direction. I'm gonna consult with him, and
56:49
Speaker 1: he's gonna help me a little bit. Wardrobe not very cool,
56:52
Speaker 1: you're not, But I think I can be cool with
56:54
Speaker 1: many years resolution to please try the haircut. I bet
56:58
Speaker 1: we could get a pool going and people would throw
57:01
Speaker 1: money in week to week just to see how LA
57:04
Speaker 1: throw up. Yes, then we could use it to clean
57:07
Speaker 1: the carpet. I think that's a bad idea, John. Personally,
57:10
Speaker 1: I want the gold jack Remember the gold jacket from
57:12
Speaker 1: the Dapper Dan Gucci. Yeah, that's that's with the matching
57:16
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57:22
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57:24
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57:31
Speaker 1: only at the Salvation Army thrift store, all right, stein Mark, Yes,
57:36
Speaker 1: good store, good store, field Yates, Iron Men Eagle safety
57:40
Speaker 1: Malcolm Jenkins. Broncos and Jaguars linebacker Miles Jack were the
57:44
Speaker 1: only defensive players to play one of their team snaps
57:48
Speaker 1: in two thousand eighteen. It's impressive. I didn't realize that
57:51
Speaker 1: with I knew he had played. I understand it most,
57:56
Speaker 1: but obviously according to fields, he did it at all. Uh.
57:59
Speaker 1: I think saying Miles would tell you that he needs
58:03
Speaker 1: to take another step as middle linebacker. Um. There seemed
58:08
Speaker 1: to be times where he was still adjusting to that
58:12
Speaker 1: role of the vision and the angles that he was
58:14
Speaker 1: playing with. But overall I thought he was okay. This
58:19
Speaker 1: year recognition, yeah here in some Pro Bowl recognition participation.
58:26
Speaker 1: The first thing that comes to mind. Didn't he have
58:27
Speaker 1: a knee? Were we concerned about about a need for him? Well,
58:31
Speaker 1: the concern with the knee has always been a long
58:34
Speaker 1: term in treat But you're talking about a guy who
58:36
Speaker 1: I don't think he's been on the injury report all year.
58:37
Speaker 1: Now you're talking about a guy who last year played
58:39
Speaker 1: all year. I don't know if you played a percent
58:41
Speaker 1: of snaps, but he didn't. He didn't miss a game
58:43
Speaker 1: because of injury. As a rookie. He worked his way
58:45
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58:46
Speaker 1: played three seasons and being available every week with the
58:50
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58:52
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58:58
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