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Jeff Legwold joins Moser, Lombardi and Kane 3-19-26 · Jeff Legwold ESPN Broncos Reports

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  Speaker 1: Alright, let's set that to ramos Law hotline car accident.
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  Speaker 1: by Jeff Legwaald of ESPN dot com.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, Leggy Fallas.
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  Speaker 3: Why do you come on to the show all smiling
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  Speaker 3: like Mona Lisa? What do you what?
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  Speaker 4: You's got something?
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  Speaker 2: I'm always ready, I'm always ready for the day.
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  Speaker 3: Come on, I think you got something going on.
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  Speaker 2: Hey?
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  Speaker 1: Are you honored to know?
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  Speaker 3: Leggy?
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  Speaker 1: At some point Nelly told me you are a participant
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  Speaker 1: in our drop tournament.
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  Speaker 4: Do you know that?
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  Speaker 2: He just told me that? Yeah, yeah, does he know?
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  Speaker 4: Have have you picked five teams?
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  Speaker 2: Or no?
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no, no, he's got a drop
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  Speaker 1: in our tournament.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're doing the radio thing.
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  Speaker 3: I was gonna say, Jeff, all the years you've been
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  Speaker 3: on this program, I don't think you've ever said anything stupid.
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  Speaker 3: You got a really good track record, but that that
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  Speaker 3: was a good one right there.
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  Speaker 2: No, I've I've got plenty of stupid on my list.
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  Speaker 4: I got I got stupid. Let me start this and
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  Speaker 4: this is more of a media qualm than anything else.
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  Speaker 4: These uh, these zoom press conferences are now being held
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  Speaker 4: in sports especially you know the Broncos love doing them.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no, no, I know I'm preaching to the
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  Speaker 4: choir here, Jeff.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah no, You're really gonna limit your Super Bowl chances
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  Speaker 5: if you let a guy hold up.
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  Speaker 2: I know, I listened.
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  Speaker 4: I listened to the Wattle one, and I think Wattle
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  Speaker 4: is great and tremendous. But doing these these zoom press
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  Speaker 4: conferences is the biggest waste of time and the biggest
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  Speaker 4: joke and the biggest affront to what we try to
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  Speaker 4: do in this business. And the fact that these continue
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  Speaker 4: is I don't know what to say. I I don't
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  Speaker 4: participate in them because they're dumb. They're dumb. There's I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I what what is your Have you talked to anybody
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  Speaker 4: about this?
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  Speaker 2: Why do we still do this?
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  Speaker 5: I've talked more than anyone else, and in the local bar.
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  Speaker 5: This is one of my my hills.
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  Speaker 2: I will charge up every time.
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  Speaker 5: So but yeah, they it's more of a a Sean
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  Speaker 5: Payton result of he he likes doing it. He doesn't
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  Speaker 5: want to do in person on Mondays, so he does
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  Speaker 5: it that way. So that's how they do uh. And
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  Speaker 5: the only reason they did waddle is because it was
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  Speaker 5: a trade. It was significant, and people were going bananas
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  Speaker 5: to get something. I mean, hey, they haven't done anything
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  Speaker 5: with a free agent they've signed in the Sean Payton era.
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  Speaker 2: I remember.
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  Speaker 5: I mean Mike McGlinchey told me he had bought a
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  Speaker 5: suit for the press.
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  Speaker 2: Confidence that never was so uh so there you go.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I I don't get it, but that's you know,
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  Speaker 5: they don't really ask me my opinion.
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  Speaker 2: There.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'm telling you, I'm telling you it matters.
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  Speaker 4: It matters you may.
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  Speaker 5: I will say the players would prefer a moment sure
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  Speaker 5: when they sign or are traded, when they arrive. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: that's a that's a great let's be your best moment,
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  Speaker 5: other than like if you win a super Bowl with
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  Speaker 5: a team. I mean, that's a that's a big moment.
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  Speaker 5: A lot of guys are just signing their first real
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  Speaker 5: mega deal. Why not celebrate that. Let him bring his
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  Speaker 5: family and sit in the front row and take pictures
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  Speaker 5: and take a tour of the facility and all those things.
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  Speaker 5: But you know, again, I'm just one guy, but I
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  Speaker 5: I fight for it all the time. I prefer in person.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think anything should be zoom. But you know
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  Speaker 5: I text with one finger too, so I'm not exactly
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  Speaker 5: a techno marble.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Legwald joining us on the Ramasla hot line and
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  Speaker 1: all conversations with Leggie I brought to you by the
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  Speaker 3: Start with a job and with a career.
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  Speaker 1: So to the Wattle acquisition we've talked about on this show,
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  Speaker 1: like what do you define as a number one wide
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  Speaker 1: receiver and what entails that and all that stuff, like
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to Waddle in Sutton, the nice thing
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  Speaker 1: is they're two completely different wide outs with different skill
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  Speaker 1: sets that you have to worry about, but ideally seventeen
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  Speaker 1: games he stays healthy. What do you think the target
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  Speaker 1: number looks like for Jalen Waddell? Does he get six
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  Speaker 1: a game? What do you see in the distribution between
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  Speaker 1: the White Outs now and specifically him in Sutton.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, he played a different offense in Miami
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  Speaker 5: for a little different but they ran the ball a
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  Speaker 5: lot in that offense, and for several of the years
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  Speaker 5: he had Tyreek Hill in the lineup, and his lowest
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  Speaker 5: target total in Miami.
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  Speaker 2: Was eighty three.
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  Speaker 5: So that's his lowest, and I think he was at
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  Speaker 5: least one hundred in every other season. So he's a
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  Speaker 5: high volume player. It's just you know, how often are
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  Speaker 5: the Broncos gonna throw the ball where? You know where's
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  Speaker 5: it going to go. I don't think you worry about
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  Speaker 5: the targets more than what it does. You know, if
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  Speaker 5: he's not getting the ball, he's this guy will still
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  Speaker 5: impact every single thing a defense does on a pass play.
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  Speaker 5: You can't push Cortland to the boundary anymore and just
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  Speaker 5: gang up on him. I mean, look at Sutton's targets
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  Speaker 5: the last two games of the regular season and in
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  Speaker 5: the playoffs. Uh, you know people were punishing the Broncos
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  Speaker 5: because they didn't have options to go away from him.
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  Speaker 2: That's not the case.
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  Speaker 5: Now, you know this is a this is a high
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  Speaker 5: volume player with it with who is a high end
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  Speaker 5: route runner, Like he doesn't have a route where a
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  Speaker 5: defense can say he doesn't do that as well as
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  Speaker 5: he does the other three. Now, this is a high
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  Speaker 5: end route runner, very meticulous. He's in the right spot.
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  Speaker 5: It will take about a third of a practice for
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  Speaker 5: bow Knicks to realize he can be confident putting the
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  Speaker 5: ball toward him on any route, because he's gonna be
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  Speaker 5: where Bo expects.
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  Speaker 2: Him to be.
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  Speaker 3: Well, if you look at those number of targets around
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  Speaker 3: these parts the last decade, I'll get you a statue
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  Speaker 3: in front of the dang stadium.
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  Speaker 2: I mean that would be that would be awesome.
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  Speaker 3: That being said, they still have some work to do
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  Speaker 3: and I know that you've been on the tight ends
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  Speaker 3: for quite some time. Is that solvable in the draft
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  Speaker 3: at all? And do they have another move coming their way?
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  Speaker 5: Well, another move will take some you know, they're they're
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  Speaker 5: kind of squished against the salary cap a little bit. Uh,
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  Speaker 5: they're trying to position for next year and all those things.
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  Speaker 2: So a move would require some some bookkeeping.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm not sure there's a player at that position
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  Speaker 5: I would think is worthy of a significant move, especially
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  Speaker 5: surrendering draft picks. I mean, they went from nine picks
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  Speaker 5: to seven and the Wattle deal, so I don't I
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  Speaker 5: don't think you want to go much lower than that.
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  Speaker 5: When now you have a roster full of large signed
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  Speaker 5: extensions and bo Nix's contract is coming at some point,
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  Speaker 5: you're gonna need a lot of draft picks and a
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  Speaker 5: lot of young players coming in or you're gonna have
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  Speaker 5: a big salary cap problem. So I think any deals
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  Speaker 5: that require them to surrender picks are not a.
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  Speaker 2: Great idea for them right now.
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  Speaker 5: And there are tight ends in the draft they can
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  Speaker 5: find and have some immediate impact as a receiver, you know,
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  Speaker 5: that huge impact. You might have to move up in
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  Speaker 5: the second round to find a little of that. But
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  Speaker 5: one of the reasons sort of the the draft pick
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  Speaker 5: total the Dolphins gotten the Wattle deal was higher than
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  Speaker 5: a lot of people in the league thought was okay,
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  Speaker 5: was the Broncos did not want to surrender any twenty
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  Speaker 5: twenty seven picks. They have a lot of picks in
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  Speaker 5: that draft and right now, I mean, anything can change,
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  Speaker 5: but right now that draft projects to be pretty awesome
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  Speaker 5: days one through three. So that was some of the reasons,
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  Speaker 5: and they gave up a little more this year on
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  Speaker 5: the board to get Wattle.
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  Speaker 4: Can I ask you about the future of Marvin Mims.
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  Speaker 4: What does this mean to Mims? Because I don't understand
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  Speaker 4: why Mims wasn't embraced more in this offense because he's
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  Speaker 4: the same size as Wattle. I understand he's not as.
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  Speaker 2: Proven as Wattle.
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  Speaker 4: I get it, but we've seen him on the field
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  Speaker 4: in key situations and he thrives. What do you do
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  Speaker 4: with him?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I'd surely like to see Mems with one hundred targets
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  Speaker 5: and see what that looks like. Yeah, you know, we
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  Speaker 5: may be talking about the same numbers. Frankly, I you know,
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  Speaker 5: people can disagree with my draft evaluation, but I have
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  Speaker 5: thought Marvin Mims was an impact player from the moment
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  Speaker 5: he walked in, and it's been one of the biggest
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  Speaker 5: I've had a lot of questions over the years in
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  Speaker 5: my time as a beat writer, but why Mims can't
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  Speaker 5: break through is one of the biggest I've ever had
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  Speaker 5: here in terms of personnel usage.
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  Speaker 1: Is it blocking?
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  Speaker 5: You know, I've asked everybody. I've never gotten an answer
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  Speaker 5: that's really says it all. I don't get it. I
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  Speaker 5: probably will never get it. But this, I think this
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  Speaker 5: impacts his snaps the most. I'm going to be intrigued
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  Speaker 5: to see how they do this. I mean, you know
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  Speaker 5: they made this move. This is kind of you know,
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  Speaker 5: button your button heads with yourself on this. They've used
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  Speaker 5: four draft picks in the last three drafts on wide
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  Speaker 5: receivers and then they make their most significant trades Russell
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  Speaker 5: Wilson on a wide receiver. So now you've done both things.
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  Speaker 5: You invest a huge in the draft and you've made
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  Speaker 5: a significant trade at the position. So uh, they're either
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  Speaker 5: saying they didn't get it right, or didn't get enough,
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  Speaker 5: or should have drafted you know more. I don't know,
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  Speaker 5: but they are sort of, you know, stacking on top
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  Speaker 5: of themselves and they're the young players they picked in
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  Speaker 5: the draft are are going to have their snaps cut
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  Speaker 5: because Jayalen Watnell's gonna play and he's gonna.
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  Speaker 2: Play a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Just to follow up on that, you know, when you
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  Speaker 1: make a move like this, this is pushing your chips
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  Speaker 1: to the middle of the table. Was this something in
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  Speaker 1: your estimation that you know? We talked to Luca Evans
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  Speaker 1: at the Post yesterday and he had an article where
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  Speaker 1: he heard that the Broncos had a hard cap on
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  Speaker 1: numbers for guys in free agency. It was ten million
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  Speaker 1: dollars a year for a running back. They were not
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  Speaker 1: willing to go higher. It was six million a year
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  Speaker 1: for a tight end. They were not willing to go higher.
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  Speaker 1: Is that because they knew something like this was going
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  Speaker 1: to happen? Do you think is that why no, okay.
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  Speaker 5: No, that that's their numbers. They approached the draft the
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  Speaker 5: same way. There's a height, weight speed parameter on all
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  Speaker 5: positions on their draft board.
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  Speaker 2: That's UH.
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  Speaker 5: They will divert from in rare cases, but for the
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  Speaker 5: most part, they live by the metrics they've studied. And
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  Speaker 5: they didn't just pick those numbers. Those are They've got
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  Speaker 5: a pretty high end analytics department that has looked at
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  Speaker 5: decades worth of information about how much you should pay
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  Speaker 5: each position compared to the output you get. Again there
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  Speaker 5: they would always be an outlier. But that's why they
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  Speaker 5: got out of the Uh. The Shane Travis, you know,
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  Speaker 5: we called them atn for years until they finally told
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  Speaker 5: people how to say his name. But that's why they
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  Speaker 5: got out of that bidding. It went beyond that they
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  Speaker 5: were out, they exited the process.
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  Speaker 4: I just got worded by the way we're talking about
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  Speaker 4: Marvin Mims and I can't wait to talk to him.
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  Speaker 4: He will be our pregame host prior to the Nuggets
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  Speaker 4: game Sunday at ball Arena. Cool and Uh, I'm interested
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  Speaker 4: in hearing from him what he thinks about his future
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  Speaker 4: in Denver because if I'm I'm like.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, if it's up to the Broncos, they want
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  Speaker 5: the best returner in football on their on their team.
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  Speaker 5: But I you know, I like Marvin and I again
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  Speaker 5: I I I would like to see one season where
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  Speaker 5: Marvin Mims gets a hundred targets and let's see what
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  Speaker 5: that looks like. But you're not going to see that here.
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  Speaker 5: But frankly, honestly, the best offenses don't spend a lot
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  Speaker 5: of time with that discussion. The best teams don't spend
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  Speaker 5: a lot of time. I mean, the Bengals have Joe Burrow,
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  Speaker 5: T Higgins and Jamar Chase and I always here how
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  Speaker 5: awesome it would be to have those three guys, but
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  Speaker 5: we don't see him in the playoffs because they constructed
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  Speaker 5: their team, uh improperly.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, Marvin.
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  Speaker 5: Mims will be on a very good team with the
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  Speaker 5: Broncos and they're gonna need him at some point in
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  Speaker 5: the season. But this does impact him, It impacts Pat Bryant,
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  Speaker 5: and it impacts Troy Franklin. But they're gonna run. You know,
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  Speaker 5: they were one already one of the high use teams
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  Speaker 5: for three wide last year, and this will only.
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  Speaker 3: Up the.
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  Speaker 4: Better team today.
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  Speaker 2: No, that's what I mean.
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  Speaker 5: You know, the good teams, the good the really good
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  Speaker 5: teams don't worry about who's w R one and who's
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  Speaker 5: getting the targets. That's just not a discussion on the
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  Speaker 5: good teams. And I I you know, it could be
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  Speaker 5: old thinking, like go paint your cave leg Waald, but uh,
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  Speaker 5: I think when you're spending a lot of time talking
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  Speaker 5: about a team and you're talking about who's getting targets
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  Speaker 5: and who's getting carried, that's fantasy football stuff. But the
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  Speaker 5: good teams internally don't really worry about that. They worry
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  Speaker 5: about when you get the ball, produce, when you're on
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  Speaker 5: the field, produce, That's what they worry about.
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  Speaker 1: Just quickly, here, Travis Etien's name is actually a chan Chane.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think that a chan from Miami's name is
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  Speaker 1: actually etn.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe that might be worth it might be worth
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  Speaker 5: checking out. But this hits hold with me because I
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  Speaker 5: always ask guys many times how to say it, how
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  Speaker 5: to spell it. It's one of my big things because
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  Speaker 5: I just remember when I first started, if you messed
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  Speaker 5: up a kid's name and a high school football story,
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  Speaker 5: you just the family never forgot it. So I mean,
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  Speaker 5: you just it always became the biggest thing to me.
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  Speaker 5: And it's amazing to me that he said he kept
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  Speaker 5: correcting people at Clemson and they just gave up, like
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  Speaker 5: all right, And I just can't imagine that you let
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  Speaker 5: somebody people this pronounce your name for years because you
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  Speaker 5: just got sick of telling them the right way.
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  Speaker 4: And Jeff, we called Brett greg for the first two.
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  Speaker 1: Weeks you did that.
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  Speaker 4: You did.
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  Speaker 2: So you've called me a lot of things.
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  Speaker 1: Lay Because you're featured in this drop tournament, in this
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  Speaker 1: matchups coming up? Do you want to stick around and
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  Speaker 1: hear your opponent in this?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 5: I you know, I I just still the week. I
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  Speaker 5: don't worry about my opponents. I worry about myself. Nobody
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  Speaker 5: is a bigger critic than I am.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, well, you're gonna you're gonna hear this match up live.
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  Speaker 5: I tell you that I take it one day at
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  Speaker 5: a time. I rise and grind. Uh I do I
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  Speaker 5: do a lot of these A lot of these things.
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  Speaker 2: Oh No, I keep I'm where my feet are? I
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  Speaker 2: uh I got.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, good talk. No, Patrick Cave like, well, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I just found. He told me he's
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  Speaker 1: not gonna be able to hear this anyway, so like,
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  Speaker 1: we'll let you know the results towards.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just you know, I pursue victory to pursue victory. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: but you're the best fifty next week, Thanks fellas. S.