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Speaker 1: Hello. I'm Mark Anderson, US correspondent for UK Column, and
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Speaker 1: welcome to state Side. State Side is a thoughtful, though
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Speaker 1: at times irreverent, compendium of some of the most significant
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Speaker 1: and pivotal US based news developments. As circumstances permit, I
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Speaker 1: cover key events virtually or often in person, and talk
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Speaker 1: to Americans directly about matters of drum oral interest to
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Speaker 1: everyone here and abroad. In the UK column tradition, I
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Speaker 1: go beyond the headlines to peer into the mechanics of society,
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Speaker 1: to better understand its workings and seek solutions whenever possible.
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Speaker 1: So here we are heading into July of twenty twenty six,
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Speaker 1: and I'm recording this first state Side at that time,
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Speaker 1: and here's some of the things that are happening. Do
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Speaker 1: we have a data center invasion on our hands? Well,
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Speaker 1: it sure appears so, doesn't it. At any rate. I've
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Speaker 1: been traveling recently in the Midwest. I traveled through northwest
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Speaker 1: Indiana recently, and I started seeing all sorts of signs
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Speaker 1: in farmer's yards say no to data centers to that effect,
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Speaker 1: And there were a few, and then there were a
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Speaker 1: few more than I realized. I was seeing dozens of them.
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Speaker 1: As I made my way from Texas to Michigan and
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Speaker 1: that was in May, and come to find out much
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Speaker 1: is happening in southwest Michigan and across the Great Lake
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Speaker 1: State as well with regards to data centers, and it's
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Speaker 1: pretty significant. You probably could call it a data center invasion.
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Speaker 1: In Laporte, Indiana, they're saying happy days have arrived in
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Speaker 1: the form of both temporary construction and presumably long term
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Speaker 1: data center operational jobs, jobs for actually operating these things.
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Speaker 1: And that's what local officials believe anyway, that's what they're
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Speaker 1: being told in laport Indiana. It's about sixty miles outside
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Speaker 1: of Chicago and northwest Indiana. To hear the South Bend
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Speaker 1: Indiana Tribune newspaper and city officials tell it, Lady Prosperity
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Speaker 1: is literally smiling upon this region. What could possibly go wrong?
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Speaker 1: While jubilant laport officials are laying out the red carpet
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Speaker 1: in welcoming what is a actual Microsoft data center to
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Speaker 1: their city of twenty two thousand residents. To its credit,
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Speaker 1: Microsoft is not seeking a tax abatement where a sizeable
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Speaker 1: chunk of property taxes are forgiven in exchange for the
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Speaker 1: company setting up shop and bringing jobs and long term
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Speaker 1: tax revenue to the community. So Microsoft apparently is opting
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Speaker 1: not to take the tax abatement or reduction and paying
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Speaker 1: the full taxes upfront, and that's how it's going to
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Speaker 1: stay credit given where credits du still looking at the
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Speaker 1: bigger picture, a Gallup study showed a majority of Americans
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Speaker 1: in fact, seventy one percent of those polled basically oppose
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Speaker 1: having these data centers in their communities. Only seven percent
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Speaker 1: get that seven percent strongly favor having them built in
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Speaker 1: their areas, and attorneys general in at least fifteen states, meanwhile,
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Speaker 1: are demanding more info and more accountability on data centers.
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Speaker 1: Electrical and water demand often opaque contract deals, and the
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Speaker 1: companies establishing these data centers oftentimes enter into non disclosure
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Speaker 1: agreements with local governments, keeping the paying public out of
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Speaker 1: the loop. The attorney's general are also probing the use
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Speaker 1: of what are called unbundled renewable energy certificates, under which
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Speaker 1: data center companies claim there's that word, claim that they
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Speaker 1: run their data centers off of green energy while actually
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Speaker 1: behind the scenes drawing from the regular so called fossil
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Speaker 1: fuel grid. A bit deceptive sounding isn't it thereby causing
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Speaker 1: both grid and energy costs instability for everyday consumers. And
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Speaker 1: we're talking public policy, but what does the public have
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Speaker 1: to do with public policy? That's often the brick wall
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Speaker 1: we run into, isn't it? At any rate? At the
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Speaker 1: federal level, the Trumpster Donald Trump, for good or ill,
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Speaker 1: has signed four executive orders, that's four of them to
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Speaker 1: speed up data center development. The Trumpster just can't get enough,
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Speaker 1: it seems. These executive orders were issued three of them,
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Speaker 1: that is, on the twenty third of July last year,
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, meaning that mister Trump decided to relax
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Speaker 1: regulations and establish fast track permitting for these centers very
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Speaker 1: early on in the process. In May of twenty twenty five.
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Speaker 1: The fourth of those four executive orders that he signed
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Speaker 1: is about expanding nuclear production nuclear energy facilities to actually
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Speaker 1: even power these massive, often massive AI data centers. They
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Speaker 1: come in different shapes and sizes. Meanwhile, let's ask this question,
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Speaker 1: just how many data centers are currently planned or under
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Speaker 1: construction just in the US alone. The answer appears to
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Speaker 1: be fifteen hundred and Virginia and Texas seem to be
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Speaker 1: leading the nation, not far behind them. Are Georgia, Illinois,
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Speaker 1: and Arizona, and as I am finding out more and more,
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Speaker 1: Indiana and Michigan are right up there. Meanwhile, over in
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Speaker 1: Europe they're ahead of the US quite a bit, I'm told.
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Speaker 1: Apparently in Europe there are approximately five hundred upcoming data
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Speaker 1: center projects, but reportedly already hosts more than three thousand
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Speaker 1: existing data centers in all, so three thousand already, there
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Speaker 1: maybe another five hundred coming up in Europe. Overall, the
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Speaker 1: UK is said to have about five hundred and sixty
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Speaker 1: the operation data centers, give or take a little, and
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Speaker 1: apparently as the leader in Western Europe, and nearly one
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Speaker 1: hundred new UK data centers are planned. Some of these
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Speaker 1: numbers are preliminary, but this is how it's stacking up
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Speaker 1: now here in southwest Michigan. My original stomping grounds where
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Speaker 1: I know every nook and cranny, every side street. The
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Speaker 1: d'wajack Data Center. That's a town of about six thousand
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Speaker 1: people in Cass County. Duajacks an Indian name. I visited
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Speaker 1: there and they bought an existing building to put a
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Speaker 1: smaller data center there. I visited there the twenty sixth
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Speaker 1: of June and I drew the ire of a rather
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Speaker 1: jumpy security staff, as I found out, and they operated
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Speaker 1: on a hair trigger basis, and things got a little hairy,
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Speaker 1: if you don't mind the pun. The security officers apparently
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Speaker 1: were incensed, quite unhappy that I was there at all,
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Speaker 1: just taking short video clips what they call b roll,
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Speaker 1: and some still frames and just looking it over. And
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Speaker 1: I did mistakenly enter a no trespass zone that was
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Speaker 1: very poorly marked, if it was marked at all, and
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Speaker 1: I was only there for about four minutes within that
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Speaker 1: no tresspas zone, excuse me, unwittingly. And then as I
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Speaker 1: saw that security staff were coming out to greet me
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Speaker 1: in perhaps a very unpleasant way, I moved outside of
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Speaker 1: that property line and went to the main entrance rather
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Speaker 1: than this so called side entrance. And at the main entrance,
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Speaker 1: I was again well outside the property line, well outside
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Speaker 1: the entryway, and shot a little bit more video and
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Speaker 1: still frames, and still I could see them trying to
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Speaker 1: make their way out to confront me. So I finished
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Speaker 1: up my photo and video taking and sped out of there,
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Speaker 1: you might say, not too fast. Didn't want to get
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Speaker 1: a ticket, but got out of there. And there'll be
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Speaker 1: other times times and other opportunities to get more information
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Speaker 1: on that Duajack data center. And in fact, one of
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Speaker 1: the complaints of the public for that particular center in
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Speaker 1: southwest Michigan is the noise. And as I stood there
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Speaker 1: making the video clips and taking the photos, I could
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Speaker 1: hear a very discernible and steady hum and it wasn't
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Speaker 1: really super loud, but it was noticeably loud. This is
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Speaker 1: Mark Anderson with UK Colin News a short video segment
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Speaker 1: on the twenty sixth of June twenty twenty six in Duwajack, Michigan,
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Speaker 1: in southwest Michigan, Cass County.
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Speaker 2: This is one of the controversial data centers. As you
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Speaker 2: can hear, it does make considerable, considerable noise. There's a
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Speaker 2: June thirtieth meeting planned as I shoot this, a public
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Speaker 2: hearing at a public library to discuss the concern among
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Speaker 2: the public about the noise, some calling it very excessive
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Speaker 2: and constant noise. That appears to be the case, but
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Speaker 2: this is one of what appears to be dozens of
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Speaker 2: data centers sprouting up across Indiana, particularly Northwest Indiana, across
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Speaker 2: Michigan and beyond. So this just gives you an idea
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Speaker 2: of what a typical data center, at least in this
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Speaker 2: part of the world looks like. Recording to UK column News,
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Speaker 2: this is Mark Anderson.
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Speaker 1: At any rate. I later found that there's a noise
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Speaker 1: based lawsuit against the Las Vegas based company that's running
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Speaker 1: this data center all the way in Michigan. And that
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Speaker 1: company is hyper Scale Data and they have a sub
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Speaker 1: a subsidiary that is Alliance Cloud Services LLC, So all
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Speaker 1: the way from Vegas they're running this Michigan data center.
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Speaker 1: And then I determined there are two public meetings, not one,
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Speaker 1: but two coming up on this data facility. One is
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Speaker 1: actually later today as I shoot this video, the thirtieth
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Speaker 1: of June, and another is on the thirteenth of July,
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Speaker 1: both of which I planned to attend so I can
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Speaker 1: talk to residents there. The first one later today is
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Speaker 1: about a noise related lawsuit that I mentioned, while the
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Speaker 1: second one in mid July is a general protest meeting
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Speaker 1: that's going to be packed. They had to move it
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Speaker 1: from Dewajack City Hall to a middle school, concert center
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Speaker 1: or all purpose center, and it's going to be packed there.
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Speaker 1: Thinking and that's why they made that switch. And the
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Speaker 1: same thing happened late last year, as I understand it,
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Speaker 1: in Knox, Indiana spelled Knox, where a community center was
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Speaker 1: packed to the rafters with people complaining about planned and
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Speaker 1: existing data centers in Indiana and about noise and concerns
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Speaker 1: about electrical and water usage. But the tour d four,
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Speaker 1: the mother of them all so far, is going to
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Speaker 1: be built in Saline Township in eastern Michigan. This is
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Speaker 1: going to be a sixteen billion dollar, one point four
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Speaker 1: gigawatt data center just south of ann Arbor, which is
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Speaker 1: near Detroit. And it's named the Barn. It's nicknamed the
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Speaker 1: Barn of All Things, and it is allegedly the largest
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Speaker 1: economic project of any kind in the entire history of Michigan.
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Speaker 1: It's expected to have three, get that, three, five hundred
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Speaker 1: and fifty thousand square foot buildings with a two hundred
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Speaker 1: and fifty acre footprint. The project, as I'm learning, just
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Speaker 1: broke ground and will house components for Open AIS so
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Speaker 1: called Stargate project. Open AIS Stargate Project. And I believe
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Speaker 1: that Oracle is involved in this one too. I'm going
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Speaker 1: to find that out, but I'm going to be there
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Speaker 1: fairly soon to shoot photos of this place. And get
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Speaker 1: with UK column viewers an update on this mother of
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Speaker 1: all data centers, at least for the Midwest. They're talking
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Speaker 1: a twenty twenty seven completion. That's only next year for
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Speaker 1: such a huge layout. We'll see if they make it.
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Speaker 1: And they're claiming and they make these rosy claims in Laport,
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Speaker 1: Indiana that I talked about earlier, they're claiming twenty five
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Speaker 1: hundred union construction jobs and allegedly four hundred and fifty
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Speaker 1: permanent operational jobs. We're hearing that a lot as these
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Speaker 1: things are being built. The question is is will these jobs,
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Speaker 1: both short term and long term actually materialize. We're going
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Speaker 1: to find out. So that's the essential snapshot so far
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Speaker 1: of data centers in the Midwest. There's going to be
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Speaker 1: other ones Marshall, Michigan, Lansing area, I understand, down in
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Speaker 1: Texas and Harlingen near the Valley International Airport in Cameron County,
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Speaker 1: which borders the Gulf of Mexico or Gulf of America,
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Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. And so there'll be
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Speaker 1: much more, of course to report. But I'll be talking
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Speaker 1: to a lot of residents and looking into these lawsuits
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Speaker 1: and getting a lot of first hand photos and video
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Speaker 1: footage of these things. Just what are these monsters in
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Speaker 1: the open AI invasion, that is the data center invasion
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Speaker 1: that we're seeing open ai being a major part of
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Speaker 1: this at any rate. In other news, as Independence date
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Speaker 1: comes around and goes here the fourth of July, state
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Speaker 1: side key think tanks are wrapping up more than ever
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Speaker 1: during America's two hundred and fiftieth with special day long programs.
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Speaker 1: The globalist think tanks are looking at the declaration of independence,
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Speaker 1: the idea of a sovereign US, looking at it through
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Speaker 1: a globalist lens, and they're trying to sort out is
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Speaker 1: the rules based international order going to survive? Is it
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Speaker 1: okay as it is and it just needs a little tweaking,
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Speaker 1: or does it need to be salvaged or is it
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Speaker 1: dying or dead? And do we need to let it go?
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Speaker 1: So these aren't just every day, week to week, month
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Speaker 1: to month think tank meetings in the Midwest. These are
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Speaker 1: special day long, invitation only confabs where they're getting really
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Speaker 1: serious and bringing in the heavyweights and the heavy hitters
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Speaker 1: to look at in light of America's two hundred and
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Speaker 1: fiftieth what is the rules based international order looking like?
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Speaker 1: The US of course, became the new Empire, replacing the
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Speaker 1: UK in that regard, replacing Britain. And they believe America
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Speaker 1: has a role in not only having established the rules
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Speaker 1: based international order, but upholding it. So, as I report,
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Speaker 1: the Chicago Council and Global Affairs, perhaps the busiest thank
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Speaker 1: tank in the US, already held a America at two
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Speaker 1: to fifty global forum that I covered on the eighteenth
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Speaker 1: of June, where among other things, they pondered what is
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Speaker 1: to become of the rules based international order? Is it
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Speaker 1: dead or is it just injured and in need of
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Speaker 1: an overhaul? And it seems like the jury is still
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Speaker 1: out among these globalist movers and shakers, and so they're
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Speaker 1: not done stewing over this matter. And according to the
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Speaker 1: Chicago Council, which is the Chicago version of the infamous
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Speaker 1: New York Council Loan Form relations there's much more in store.
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Speaker 1: Summer programs include an unprecedented high level dialogue on the
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Speaker 1: Transatlantic relationship on the ninth of July, so that's coming
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Speaker 1: up pretty soon as I speak, for which the Council
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Speaker 1: will partner for the first time ever with the UK
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Speaker 1: based Ditchley Foundation. That's a lesser known member of the
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Speaker 1: globalist grid, you might say, but they hold up to
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Speaker 1: twelve major conferences a year, and in that way, Ditchley
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Speaker 1: far exceeds Builderberg, the Trilateral Commission and others in terms
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Speaker 1: of how much material they cover and how many conferences
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Speaker 1: and get togethers they have each year. But they're not
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Speaker 1: quite as secretive as the Trilats or Builderberg. There's a
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Speaker 1: little contrast, and you can read about the Digshally Foundation
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Speaker 1: in a currently available article on the UK column website
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Speaker 1: that I wrote. At any rate, the co host for
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Speaker 1: this year's high level dialogue on the Transatlantic relationship is
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Speaker 1: the John D. And Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation, a generous
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Speaker 1: excuse me, permanent donor to the Public Broadcasting System or PBS,
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Speaker 1: which is America's version of the BBC. Moving on, reflecting
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Speaker 1: on some miscellaneous matters as I wind up this first
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Speaker 1: state side on Chicago's South Side, the Obama Presidential Library
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Speaker 1: or Presidential Center, I believe they call it Everyone's favorite destination.
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Speaker 1: Just opened on the nineteenth of June, that politically correct
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Speaker 1: new federal holiday in the US, otherwise known as June teenth.
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Speaker 1: It's a modernist architecture specimen that's for sure. Some call
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Speaker 1: it a architectural train wreck, others don't, and it appears
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Speaker 1: to reflect a lot of Wokism and ultraliberal globalist ideologies
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Speaker 1: in the view of its critics. Anyway, I for one,
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Speaker 1: of course, can't wait to go, and I'll soon probably
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Speaker 1: pay the thirty dollars entry fee per person and enter
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Speaker 1: this rarefied tribute to perhaps the most enigmatic president the
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Speaker 1: US has had, and one of his infamous policies was,
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Speaker 1: of course, Obama was said to have had a kill list,
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Speaker 1: a secretive kill list of alleged terrorists that included American citizens,
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Speaker 1: something that raised a lot of controversy in its day. Notably,
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Speaker 1: there are sixteen official presidential libraries running from Herbert Hoover
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Speaker 1: through Joe Biden. Of course, that includes Obama, but not
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Speaker 1: Trump yet, and the Obama Facility, interestingly enough, houses a
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Speaker 1: replica of the White House's Oval office, and it's the
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Speaker 1: first fully digitized presidential library. So apparently not a single
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Speaker 1: paper document from Obama's two term reign will be housed
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Speaker 1: in this facility, not one. That means mister Obama's highly
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Speaker 1: disputed birth certificate won't be there either, and that's according
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Speaker 1: to President Trump's close friend, former Maricopa County, Arizona Sheriff
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Speaker 1: Joe Rpile, with whom I spoke recently, and this longtime
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Speaker 1: law man who was sued by the Obama administration some
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Speaker 1: ten years ago for so called discrimination during his legendary
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Speaker 1: border enforcement measures. Mister Opio carried out a twenty eleven
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Speaker 1: probe of Obama's Hawaii birth certificate, and according to mister Opio,
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Speaker 1: him and his research team concluded that the birth certificate
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Speaker 1: is fraudulent. So an interesting thing. They're a little humorous
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Speaker 1: to consider. And lastly, I have a few words on
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Speaker 1: the death of economist Alan Greenspan. This longtime Federal Reserve
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Speaker 1: chairman who served from nineteen eighty seven two thousand and six,
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Speaker 1: passed away on the twenty second of June. Now he's
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Speaker 1: eulogized and he's been praised in many circles. But this
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Speaker 1: New York born economist was a virtual disciple of the
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Speaker 1: hyper libertarian novelist Ain Rand, and he fostered in the
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Speaker 1: view of some economic devastation from which the US has
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Speaker 1: barely recovered. In fact, Greenspan's policies were partially blamed for
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Speaker 1: the two thousand and seven two thousand and eight Great Recession,
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Speaker 1: which was considered almost as cataclysmic in some respects as
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Speaker 1: the nineteen thirties Great Depression. Interestingly enough, now a Carnegie fellow.
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Speaker 1: A former Carnegie fellow, Richard Katz, noted the following on Substack.
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Speaker 1: The result of Greenspan's ideology was untrammeled fraud in unhealthy
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Speaker 1: types of derivatives, unhealthy types of derivatives, excuse me, and
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Speaker 1: the worst financial cataclysm, as I said, since the nineteen thirties.
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Speaker 1: Only swift action by his successor, Ben Bernaki and action
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Speaker 1: by the Bush and Obama administrations prevented another depression. Mister
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Speaker 1: Katz is making a pretty strong assertion here. In testimony
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Speaker 1: before Congress after that disaster, Greenspan admitted that his ideology
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Speaker 1: was at faull. In his twenty fourteen Foreign Affairs piece
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Speaker 1: on Greenspan, mister Katz bluntly entitled that piece blind Oracle
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Speaker 1: and went on to say that Greenspan was one of
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Speaker 1: the chief advocates of deregulating finance, including derivatives, and Katz added,
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Speaker 1: but many others correctly predicted that this house of flimsy
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Speaker 1: cards would actually amm amplify the effects of a decline
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Speaker 1: in home prices. As early as two thousand and two,
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Speaker 1: the investor Warren Buffett argued that the more exotic derivatives
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Speaker 1: apparently supported by Greenspan were actual quote financial weapons of
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Speaker 1: mass destruction end quote. So it appears mister Greenspan, while
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Speaker 1: to a strong degree putting into practice the completely unregulated
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Speaker 1: economics ideology of an rand, rarely if ever, found a
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Speaker 1: perverse incentive that he didn't like. But what's the larger lesson.
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Speaker 1: The larger lesson here is mister Katz, while he makes
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Speaker 1: some cogent points, is still arguing within the monetary framework
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Speaker 1: that we all live under and that enslaves us all.
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Speaker 1: So in a way, when they eulogize or talk about
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Speaker 1: past economists mister Greenspan lived to one hundred born nineteen
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Speaker 1: twenty six, they're still in a way validating the current
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Speaker 1: economic system and monetary system. And it's only a matter
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Speaker 1: of economists that made mistass or blunders and implemented the
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Speaker 1: wrong policies things like that, And if they would just
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Speaker 1: tweak things right on the existing system, all would be well.
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Speaker 1: But as I say, the real lesson is that we
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Speaker 1: need to look beyond these headlines, look beyond the monetary
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Speaker 1: mechanism under which we live, and bring in a changing
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Speaker 1: of the guard, if you will, toward a debt free
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Speaker 1: sovereign monetary system where governments as in the case of
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Speaker 1: the Bradbury Pound in the early twentieth century in the UK,
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Speaker 1: where governments issue money and credit interest free and the
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Speaker 1: debt based system is put to rest. And I have
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Speaker 1: several articles on that theme, including in the latest current magazine,
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Speaker 1: The UK Columns new magazine, The Column, and several online,
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Speaker 1: including an article about Guernsey the Island of Guernsey in
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Speaker 1: the English Channel achieving debt free monetary freedom for twenty
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Speaker 1: years a couple hundred years ago as an interesting read
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Speaker 1: right there. And also check out a fairly popular interview
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Speaker 1: I recently did with John Briggs on his book Alice
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Speaker 1: and the Money Tree, again among other articles I've put
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Speaker 1: on the UK Column website dealing with monetary matters. So
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Speaker 1: that's some of the latest here in the US. Of course,
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Speaker 1: there'll be much more as I get out in the
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Speaker 1: field and cover some of these things, especially the data centers.
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Speaker 1: So that's a wrap for the first edition of Stateside
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Speaker 1: and for UK column. I'm Mark Anderson. We'll see you
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Speaker 1: next time.