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Set 2: Rumor Has It · Stugotz and Company

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Speaker 1: I feel like we haven't been talking football because Taylor
0:12
Speaker 1: and Mikeya are so excited for baseball and they just
0:14
Speaker 1: can't wait for baseball, and they want to talk about
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Speaker 1: CC Sabathia and whether or not his jersey should be
0:19
Speaker 1: retired at Yankee Stadium, and I'm getting.
0:21
Speaker 2: Tired of baseball. I want to talk to football. How
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Speaker 2: do you feel about that? Is we?
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Speaker 3: I am always on board with somebody moving on from baseball.
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Speaker 4: Even if it's the football.
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Speaker 3: I have at all no offense to him, but I
0:36
Speaker 3: like football. It's had better.
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Speaker 1: Do you know how outraged is he must be? He's
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Speaker 1: trying to talk NBA all the time. We don't let
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Speaker 1: him get it off the ground. Taylor's you know, just
0:45
Speaker 1: announces that the Hornets are going for it right now?
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Speaker 2: Is he is a basketball genius?
0:51
Speaker 1: Taylor seems like a basketball genius and he can't get
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Speaker 1: a basketball conversation off the ground. But we'll talk about
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Speaker 1: CC Sabathia for fifteen fucking minutes. It's unbelievable.
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Speaker 3: I think so far, the highlight of twenty twenty six
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Speaker 3: in this group is Taylor saying the Hornets are going
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Speaker 3: for it.
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Speaker 2: Nobody knows what that means. But he's been right about it.
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Speaker 2: I knew what he meant.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, nobody knows what it means until you watch the
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Speaker 5: Hornets and then you're like, oh wait, now it's starting
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Speaker 5: to make sense.
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Speaker 2: Yes, well where do they go anyway?
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Speaker 1: Yes, it's currently in the lead for best prediction of
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. Let's do a Stewie Awards as soon.
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Speaker 3: As somebody figures out what it is, it's an even
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Speaker 3: better prediction.
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Speaker 1: Yes, but let's talk football here, Mikey, how do you
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Speaker 1: feel about here's a headline? Because there are some headlines.
1:40
Speaker 1: Free agency starts next week. It's a big week, this
1:43
Speaker 1: is a big time. This is how we're super Bowl Mikey.
1:45
Speaker 1: It's the off season for everyone else, but for the
1:48
Speaker 1: Jets it is playoff time.
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Speaker 4: Here's a headline is a staple for the NFL offseason,
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Speaker 4: because the NFL always has a headline. And then I've
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Speaker 4: got a new game I want to debut. Come up
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Speaker 4: here in a few minutes because NFL free agency starts soon.
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Speaker 4: We're in the middle of lying season and draft season,
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Speaker 4: so I've got a little game I like to call
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Speaker 4: Rumor has it. And then finally, because Stu loves it
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Speaker 4: so much. I've got a blind rankings for you guys.
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Speaker 2: I do love it. I do. I'm gonna get tired
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Speaker 2: of it soon, but I love it. I really do.
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Speaker 2: It's a great game, all right. So you want to
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Speaker 2: start us off with here's a headline.
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Speaker 4: Sure, here's a headline. Daneil Hunter is getting a one year,
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Speaker 4: forty million dollar deal from the Houston Texans to return.
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Speaker 1: Jesus thirty one years old. Is he fifteen sacks last year?
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Speaker 4: One?
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Speaker 1: So the Texans Chris Sims told us this their defense
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Speaker 1: was good enough to win a championship.
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Speaker 2: They almost did. CJ.
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Speaker 1: Stroud not good enough. He's the second best pass rusher
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Speaker 1: on their team. Forty million bucks.
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Speaker 2: Thirty one was that number again?
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Speaker 4: Mikey thirty one for a one year, forty million dollar deal.
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Speaker 4: This is his second extension with Houston after signing a
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Speaker 4: two year, forty nine million dollar deal as a free
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Speaker 4: agent twenty twenty four, which means he is now almost
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Speaker 4: doubling what he made.
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Speaker 3: But for a thirty one year old, you're just investing
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Speaker 3: one season. I think it's not that huge of a risk.
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Speaker 3: The thing that interests me is like, all right, so
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Speaker 3: seems like, you're going all in for this season?
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Speaker 2: Who's your quarterback? Is it still c J? Stroud?
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Speaker 3: Because this defense was so good it was not good
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Speaker 3: enough to overcome CJ.
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Speaker 2: Stroud.
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Speaker 1: So I think that's an interesting point, is he Because
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Speaker 1: when you have a defense that is championship good, why
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Speaker 1: settle a quarterback? Your quarterback was great as a rookie.
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Speaker 1: He has done nothing but gone the other way since then?
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Speaker 1: Why are the Texans so adamant? They're like, no, we're
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Speaker 1: keeping CJ.
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Speaker 2: Stroud?
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Speaker 1: Why would you not look for a better alternative a
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Speaker 1: quarterback when you're inside of a super Bowl window?
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Speaker 3: Well, not just better, but this is the type of defense.
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Speaker 3: I mean, unless we're over selling it, who knows, but
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Speaker 3: this is the type of defense that.
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Speaker 2: Can win with a Trent Dilfer, with uh.
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Speaker 4: Just a Jacob Davis Mills.
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Speaker 3: Yeah somebody, man, we already have him, somebody who's just
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Speaker 3: steady Eddy.
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Speaker 2: Just don't turn it over.
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Speaker 3: And yeah, they're instead probably gonna go back to c J.
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Speaker 2: Stroud and hope that he has the magic in him.
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Speaker 2: What happened to CJ. Stroud?
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Speaker 4: The Texans happened. All they did was give him a
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Speaker 4: band aid offensive line for three years and he wound
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Speaker 4: up just getting hit after hit. He couldn't run an offense,
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Speaker 4: and they're still trying to make up for it.
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Speaker 2: I think he was the same draft as Bryce Young,
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Speaker 2: Is that correct?
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Speaker 4: No, he was the same draft as Zach Wilson.
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Speaker 2: Oh, the same draft as Zach was.
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Speaker 1: I thought it was Bryce Young because I was gonna say,
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Speaker 1: and no one would have thought this two years ago,
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Speaker 1: that Bryce Young is the is the quarterback. I'd feel
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Speaker 1: more confident giving a long term.
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Speaker 2: Big contract to that. CJ. Stroud is that far?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean after what we saw in the postseason,
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Speaker 3: it is like you start to wonder maybe the weather
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Speaker 3: was that big of a factor because he was that
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Speaker 3: bad in that weather and it was just such a
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Speaker 3: large swing. But he's not like he was great during
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Speaker 3: the season. I don't think i'd seen great c J.
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Speaker 3: Stroud since what was it two years ago?
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Speaker 4: CJ.
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Speaker 5: Shroud was picked two behind Bryce Young.
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Speaker 1: Right, That's what I thought it was, Yes, because oh,
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Speaker 1: I'm taking to Justin Fields.
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Speaker 2: Well, no, the rookie season. That was a big mistake.
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Speaker 2: Don't take it out. Leave it in.
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Speaker 4: Ohio State quarterbacks now.
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Speaker 1: But if you guys remember and I'm certain Mikey does
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Speaker 1: we all do right? The talk was that the you know,
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Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers took the wrong quarterback in CJ.
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Speaker 2: Stroud's rookie season.
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Speaker 1: But now here we are a couple of years later,
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Speaker 1: and I would feel more comfortable giving Bryce Young a
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Speaker 1: longer term, big money contract than I would see J.
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Speaker 2: Stroud. And I never thought i'd say that two years ago.
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Speaker 3: I always forget Bryce Young's name second, because it's just
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Speaker 3: he doesn't look like a Bryce Young. And so I
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Speaker 3: saw him at Super Bowl Week and that Bryce Young,
6:00
Speaker 3: and I was like, he is absolutely tiny.
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Speaker 2: He's tiny, yes.
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Speaker 3: Tiny, And I'm like, I, as a GM, I couldn't
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Speaker 3: give that man the keys to my franchise just based
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Speaker 3: on his size. And I'm sorry about that. That makes
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Speaker 3: me like a football sizest, but it's true.
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Speaker 1: No, I'm concerned for him when I watch him play
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Speaker 1: every Sunday, like he's gonna break in half.
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Speaker 2: I think we need another headline.
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Speaker 5: I have a headline. Jets offensive coordinator Frank Wright's preferred
6:31
Speaker 5: choice at quarterback, Carson Wentz.
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Speaker 2: Fuck that Jesus Christ. Wow, that's why he's not the HC.
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Speaker 3: There's a lot of options out there, and Carson Wentz
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Speaker 3: is his favorite.
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Speaker 4: I love it?
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Speaker 2: Is that a real headline? Why do you love it?
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Speaker 2: Because nothing else has worked? Who knows?
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Speaker 4: Because the goal of the Jets should be twofold, to
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Speaker 4: be professional and bad, and Carson Wentz fits that mold.
7:00
Speaker 4: I want them to look like a professional team to
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Speaker 4: the point where they can keep someone like Garrett Wilson
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Speaker 4: engaged and someone like Breeze Hall going Okay, I see
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Speaker 4: what you're trying to do here, but bad enough that
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Speaker 4: you're still picking near the top of the draft next
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Speaker 4: year when you've got guys like Arch Manning and you
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Speaker 4: have three first round picks, And this is a Jacoby
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Speaker 4: Brissett is like my ideal here where he has been
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Speaker 4: a professional quarterback for so long, but his record is awful.
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Speaker 4: And that's what I'm looking for for the New York
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Speaker 4: Jets in twenty twenty six.
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Speaker 2: Professional awfulness, Yes, professionally awful. You realize we're going to
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Speaker 2: get that regardless, right, So I mean.
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Speaker 4: No, because you look at a guy like Kyler Murray
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Speaker 4: who will make an appearance later, and you go, man,
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Speaker 4: if he does find it, like they could be eight
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Speaker 4: and eight or eight nine or nine and I'm like, no,
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Speaker 4: I don't want eight, No, no, I want no.
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Speaker 2: Kyler might just be good enough to get seven with.
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Speaker 4: Actually I don't want that. I want somebody who's going
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Speaker 4: to be professionally awful.
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Speaker 2: Wait.
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Speaker 1: Is Frank Wright playing chess and we're playing checkers? Is
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Speaker 1: that what he's doing there? I know, Taylor, Frank Wright
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Speaker 1: playing chess and we're playing jackers.
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Speaker 5: I don't know if Aaron Glenn has time for somebody
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Speaker 5: to playing chess one more bad year. If he signs
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Speaker 5: Carson Wentz, here's a headline for next season.
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Speaker 4: Aaron Glenn's out bye.
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Speaker 2: Maybe not for Frank Watts.
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Speaker 3: But here's a Taylor next season if they hire, if
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Speaker 3: they get Kyler Murray Aaron Glenn, I with this quarterback?
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Speaker 2: Oh yes, yes, the only quarterback.
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Speaker 4: I see what you did there?
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Speaker 2: Oh god? Is he? Do you have a headline here?
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Speaker 2: I do.
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Speaker 3: My headline is also it as a subhead, So I'll
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Speaker 3: tell you the headline and then or is it a
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Speaker 3: drop head? I don't know, but the headline Patriots super
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Speaker 3: Bowl champion warns about Alec Pierce, and the subhead or
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Speaker 3: drop head is quote, I'm not paying you thirty million,
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Speaker 3: and do you guys want to know who that Patriot
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Speaker 3: champion that is criticizing Alec Pierce's.
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Speaker 4: I'm going with a talking Is it like Damian Woody.
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Speaker 2: No, I can give you a hit, same race.
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Speaker 1: Also a white guy, Wes Welker, You're close, You're Wolean
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Speaker 1: edelmanry war.
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Speaker 2: Julian Edelman close? Not quite.
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Speaker 3: No, I don't know if this helps a two time
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Speaker 3: Super Bowl champion with the Patriots.
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Speaker 2: Jesus, they've had so many little we don't think. I
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Speaker 2: don't think it's that little. Is it A Hogan? Yeah?
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Speaker 3: Yes, Chris Hogan said quote, I'm looking at stuff where
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Speaker 3: Alec Pearce is going for thirty million per year. I'm
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Speaker 3: not paying thirty million for someone who to run go routes.
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Speaker 3: If you're gonna come in, you'll have to run multiple
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Speaker 3: routes in this offseason. You have to get open against press,
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Speaker 3: get open against man, and run slants and curls all
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Speaker 3: over the middle of the field. And so I looked
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Speaker 3: over at Alec Pierce's stats over the years. Yes, and
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Speaker 3: it is low number of targets and high you know,
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Speaker 3: yards per catch, Yes.
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Speaker 2: And one route the go route exactly.
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Speaker 3: And so if the guy like Alex Pierce gets a
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Speaker 3: lot of fans attention because you remember not too long ago.
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Speaker 3: I think it was Taylor who said goodbye. Who was
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Speaker 3: it Stefan Diggs, Hello, Alec Pierce that I don't know
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Speaker 3: if you want that, man, I don't.
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Speaker 2: Know if you want.
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Speaker 3: I know Drake May is the best deep ball thrower
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Speaker 3: in the league. Whatever, But it's also a pretty easy
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Speaker 3: route to defend if you know you're a one trick pony.
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Speaker 1: On radio road, didn't Tyler Shuck say to us if
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Speaker 1: he could have one wide receiver, he would want Alec
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Speaker 1: Pierce And we were all shocked by it. He was
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Speaker 1: trying anyone else off, So I think Piers seemed like
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Speaker 1: a benign name to say he can get away with it.
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Speaker 1: But he said Alec Pierce.
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Speaker 3: But listen, when another white receiver is out there criticizing you.
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Speaker 3: You're supposed to be like a little family, right, You're
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Speaker 3: supposed to protect each jogan out here saying this guy's
11:01
Speaker 3: gonna just run go routes no thirty million from me.
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Speaker 2: I think you might want to listen to it.
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Speaker 1: You think he got a call like who is the
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Speaker 1: head of the white wide receivers?
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Speaker 4: I mean it's Wes Welker.
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Speaker 2: It's well, I mean, I mean it was like the line.
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Speaker 3: It probably started Steve Largent, right, he's probably retired, right,
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Speaker 3: and then there's a few after that.
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Speaker 2: I don't know, man, Wes Welker might have retired to.
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Speaker 4: Break question the church basement.
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Speaker 2: And he calls Alan Pearce. He's like, Alek, you can't
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Speaker 2: do that. You doing to stick together white on white crime.
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Speaker 2: What are you doing?
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Speaker 4: Is this aa? No, this is white wide receivers, Anonymous,
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Speaker 4: you're across the hall.
11:43
Speaker 1: Uh, here's a headlot. We didn't discuss this enough yesterday.
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Speaker 1: It's a big move. DJ Moore going to the Buffalo Bills.
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Speaker 1: And the question I was trying to ask on the
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Speaker 1: radio show yesterday is if DJ Moore is any closer
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Speaker 1: to making it to a Super Bowl, to winning a
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Speaker 1: super Bowl in Buffalo than he was in Chicago. Now,
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Speaker 1: we had no choice, the Bears traded him. The Bears
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Speaker 1: have young wide receivers. But I'm just like that that's
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Speaker 1: kind of the larger point.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I don't feel like he's any closer, or the Buffalo
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Speaker 1: Bills or any closer to winning a Super Bowl.
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Speaker 3: Well, did you see the headline. I thought this was
12:18
Speaker 3: going to be your headline. Did you see the headline
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Speaker 3: on Max Crosby being perhaps a future Chicago Bear? Because
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Speaker 3: if that happens, and I am DJ Moore, I'm a
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Speaker 3: little pissed off, right, Yes, But.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a headline or a rumor.
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Speaker 1: A rumor that's for a different game. Second, I don't
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Speaker 1: know if it's a fact.
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Speaker 2: You know you are.
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Speaker 4: You are so much higher on this Chicago Bears team
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Speaker 4: than I am.
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Speaker 2: Still because I'm high on the quarterback Mikey. That's one.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I get it, and he the way they won
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Speaker 4: last year is not sustainable. They did not they did
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Speaker 4: not dominate teams. They won with fluke plays at the end.
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Speaker 4: They won with absolute luck and hell Mary's and that's
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Speaker 4: awesome for a season, but it is not sustainable. So
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Speaker 4: they need to get better and then also have a
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Speaker 4: little bit of luck. And I just don't believe that
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Speaker 4: they can repeat what they did last year. So I
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Speaker 4: am down on the Bears. I don't think they're Max
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Speaker 4: Crosbie away. I think they're more than that.
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Speaker 2: It's still morning, so I was gonna guess that Stu
13:22
Speaker 2: was high on Sativa. No, not yet, but I will
13:26
Speaker 2: be very sick. Give me about an hour. Why what
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Speaker 2: am I saying that's wrong here?
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Speaker 1: Like for Caleb Williams, Mikey, I think everything you said
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Speaker 1: is right. I also think the Bears know that winning
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Speaker 1: that way is not sustainable in the NFL, and I
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Speaker 1: don't think they plan on doing it that way because
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Speaker 1: it's not sustainable. But you had to see things out
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Speaker 1: of that quarterback that would get you excited to think,
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Speaker 1: oh my god, if we get a Max Crosby and
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Speaker 1: put the right people around this guy, this guy's going
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Speaker 1: to take those to a super Bowl.
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Speaker 4: I've said this before. I said this the day after
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Speaker 4: it happened. The play after Caleb Williams made that Redicus
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Speaker 4: throw on fourth and twenty eight, the next pass he
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Speaker 4: sailed over on a wide open wide receiver. Like, that's
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Speaker 4: what you're getting with him. You're getting those plays that
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Speaker 4: make your jaw dright. There's no doubt, there's no denying
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Speaker 4: those plays. But until you can sustainably run an offense,
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Speaker 4: I'm not willing to call you the greatest to ever
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Speaker 4: do it like you are.
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Speaker 2: Last time I saw him.
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Speaker 3: Win a game, it was a pretty thorough beating of
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Speaker 3: the Packers.
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Speaker 2: Yep, So I don't know.
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Speaker 3: I know he's had some close games and you know
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Speaker 3: he's had some sort of miracle throws to win those games.
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Speaker 2: But he has the ability to make those.
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Speaker 3: Miracle throws, and so you get confidence, you get better,
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Speaker 3: maybe those endings won't be necessary.
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Speaker 2: Plus with their coach ye, this.
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Speaker 5: Trade feels like a bit of a desperation move from
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Speaker 5: Buffalo because it's been a while since DJ Moore looked
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Speaker 5: like a true number one receiver, and if you are
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Speaker 5: a team like Chicago that has what could be a
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Speaker 5: generational quarterback in Caleb Williams, it should be a bit
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Speaker 5: of a sign that they're this willing to move off
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Speaker 5: of him, especially if you get a second round pick
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Speaker 5: where maybe you could flip that pick get a younger
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Speaker 5: receiver to pair with Luther Burden, and then if you're Buffalo,
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Speaker 5: I think this is also while it feels like a
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Speaker 5: desperation move, it feels like that's where Brandon Bean is
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Speaker 5: now at in Buffalo, where the fan base wants his head.
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Speaker 5: He had to go out and just show that he
15:27
Speaker 5: was making some kind of effort to give Josh Allen
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Speaker 5: targets to where it's not Marquis Valdez scantling again.
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Speaker 2: Right, it feels like a desperation move.
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Speaker 1: If this is the last move, meaning if DJ Moore
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Speaker 1: is your number one wide receiver, then yes, it feels desperate.
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Speaker 1: I don't think that's the plan. I think DJ Moore
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Speaker 1: the plan for the Buffalo Bills is to try to
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Speaker 1: get AJ Brown or somebody else make them the number one. Now,
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Speaker 1: if DJ Moore becomes your number two wide receiver, then
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Speaker 1: maybe you're onto something.
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Speaker 3: By the way, real quick, when I said keyln Wilson thorough,
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Speaker 3: I meant impressive. I meant that fourth quarter against the
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Speaker 3: Packers that wasn't like a flukey play, that was touchdown
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Speaker 3: after touchdown after touchdown in a playoff game.
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Speaker 2: It's hard not to be impressed with him.
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Speaker 1: I mean when he's throwing against the wind and throwing
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Speaker 1: darts forty years forty yards downfield and the win's not impacting.
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Speaker 1: How he throws, He's incredible. His arm strength is incredible.
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Speaker 1: He's an incredible athlete.
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Speaker 2: Yes, Mikey.
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Speaker 4: I also love the idea that the reason that they
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Speaker 4: ignored the wide receiver position in Buffalo for so long
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Speaker 4: was Sean McDermott didn't want it, because that's what's changed
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Speaker 4: this offseason for Buffalo, the fact that he left and
16:31
Speaker 4: they just promoted everybody within the organization. They're like, you
16:35
Speaker 4: know what, that Sean guy was holding us back from
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Speaker 4: getting a number one wide receiver. Let's go get one.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, is he?
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Speaker 5: I've also noticed Caleb Williams name might be a name
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Speaker 5: that gives you problems in the future because you want
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Speaker 5: to call him Caleb Wilson every time, so he does.
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Speaker 3: I want to watch Caleb Wilson highlights so much more
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Speaker 3: than Caleb Williams, and so it's just going to confuse me.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to some NFL rumors here. We
19:09
Speaker 1: have our blind rankings as well. I'm very excited we're
19:11
Speaker 1: talking about ball.
19:15
Speaker 2: I miss it.
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Speaker 4: Go ahead, Mike, all right. So I've been scouring the internet.
19:20
Speaker 4: I've been scouring the rumor mill, and I've come up
19:23
Speaker 4: with a few of them that I think are pretty interesting.
19:26
Speaker 2: Stu.
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Speaker 1: Very important to point out these are rumors. These aren't
19:29
Speaker 1: things that have actually happened. They've just been discussed in
19:31
Speaker 1: certain circles.
19:32
Speaker 2: Right, Yes, this is, this is, this is.
19:36
Speaker 4: There are reports, there are whispers, there are sources, there
19:40
Speaker 4: are somebody in the building is saying.
19:43
Speaker 5: As an aside, rumor, has it the rare great movie title,
19:47
Speaker 5: song title combo?
19:50
Speaker 4: What was the movie? Yeah? Movie title?
19:52
Speaker 5: I don't know about the movie though, Kevin Costner, Jennifer
19:56
Speaker 5: Jennifer Aniston.
19:57
Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, not a great movie. Way better song title. Yeah,
20:02
Speaker 3: terrible movie. The final result is way better.
20:04
Speaker 1: I so want to support him in everything that he says,
20:07
Speaker 1: because because I love him and because he's me and
20:11
Speaker 1: I supported that, but then you guys really rushed it
20:16
Speaker 1: and made me feel terrible about my support, and so
20:18
Speaker 1: now I'm taking it away.
20:20
Speaker 4: Rummer has a Taylor's girlfriend picks the movies.
20:23
Speaker 3: There, I was gonna say, who knew Taylor was such
20:25
Speaker 3: a rom com fan? As he points out himself, twenty
20:28
Speaker 3: one percent on Rotten Tomatoes for that.
20:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's having a good movie day.
20:31
Speaker 1: He asked Tim Kurchin about sixty one and Couragin's that's
20:34
Speaker 1: second greatest.
20:35
Speaker 2: Baseball movie of all time.
20:36
Speaker 1: That was a good one, Peppery, he was feeling confident. Anyway,
20:41
Speaker 1: you have a rumor for us?
20:42
Speaker 4: I do, Stu Gotts This one's I'll toss this one
20:44
Speaker 4: up to you first. Rumor has it the Jets might
20:48
Speaker 4: not be out of the Fernando Mendoza sweepstakes as they
20:52
Speaker 4: are continuing to talk to the Raiders about possibly moving
20:55
Speaker 4: up to one.
20:56
Speaker 1: Why are you saying it like that? Is that how
20:58
Speaker 1: you discuss a rumor? Because that's how yes is he?
21:01
Speaker 2: How do you feel about this?
21:02
Speaker 1: As the Jets have five first round picks over the
21:04
Speaker 1: next two seasons, I think they have the second pick
21:06
Speaker 1: in the draft this year, the Raiders, of course have
21:09
Speaker 1: the first pick as someone who absolutely loves Mendoza and
21:12
Speaker 1: cares about Mendoza, and you are that guy, how would
21:16
Speaker 1: you feel about him going to the Jets?
21:18
Speaker 2: Pretty soon? He's gonna be my cousin.
21:21
Speaker 3: Look, I think he's exactly the type of buttoned up
21:24
Speaker 3: quarterback the Jets need, Like he can sort of overlook
21:28
Speaker 3: all the past horrible organizational play or everything that they
21:35
Speaker 3: do and just be like, I just want to win
21:38
Speaker 3: and play football. Like he's that just pure and sort
21:41
Speaker 3: of dorky with it. And I think he can. Yeah,
21:45
Speaker 3: I think he can be that guy. Now, how they're
21:47
Speaker 3: doing this the Jets is interesting. Rather than discuss moving
21:51
Speaker 3: up one spot, which is gonna cost you an arm
21:54
Speaker 3: and a leg, wouldn't you just rather like secretly promote
21:58
Speaker 3: the heck out of whoever's supposed to be compar heating
22:00
Speaker 3: for that number one spot right and say, oh.
22:02
Speaker 2: Man, this guy's supposed to be amazing.
22:03
Speaker 7: Oh, they don't want to miss out on such and
22:05
Speaker 7: such Fernando Mendoza maybe not that great, and then just
22:08
Speaker 7: remind the Raiders when they picked JaMarcus Russell that it
22:11
Speaker 7: didn't really work out that well, and that way it
22:13
Speaker 7: doesn't cost him a thing to let Mendoza faultitude.
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Speaker 1: That's what competent organizations do. But I think you brought
22:20
Speaker 1: up something I didn't think about this.
22:21
Speaker 2: Huh.
22:22
Speaker 1: Mendoza is such a positive guy. Yeah, that I think
22:26
Speaker 1: he might change the Like He'll walk in there not
22:29
Speaker 1: thinking about how miserable the Jets have been for the
22:32
Speaker 1: last fifty years. He'll be thinking, Hey, I'm an NFL quarterback,
22:36
Speaker 1: I don't care where I play, and he might change
22:38
Speaker 1: the entire organization.
22:40
Speaker 2: I want this to happen.
22:41
Speaker 3: Now, not that he did it himself, but he completed
22:46
Speaker 3: the transition of Indiana, yes, the Jets of the NCAA
22:51
Speaker 3: to the top of the and.
22:53
Speaker 1: He has experiencing he has experience going to a miserable
22:56
Speaker 1: place and making that miserable place positive and national champions.
23:00
Speaker 1: His football positivity, whatever that is, overrides and overcomes all negativity.
23:07
Speaker 2: So far, that's all the evidence we have.
23:09
Speaker 4: Kurt Signetti is not walking through those doors.
23:12
Speaker 3: Okay, hey, but listen, if he was going to walk
23:18
Speaker 3: through an NFL door with Mendoza on the other side
23:22
Speaker 3: of it, yes, we need to make this happen.
23:26
Speaker 2: I don't know, so desperate. This rumor is sexy. It
23:30
Speaker 2: is so busy.
23:31
Speaker 1: Wow, I feel better now that you feel comfortable with
23:34
Speaker 1: Mendoza overcoming the Jets.
23:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how that's how confident I am in I
23:38
Speaker 2: am and my cousin.
23:39
Speaker 4: He could be doing the same thing to us that
23:41
Speaker 4: he wants the Jets to do to the Raiders, where
23:43
Speaker 4: he's like, no, you should totally take that on. You
23:46
Speaker 4: should totally do that.
23:47
Speaker 2: I look like a trader.
23:50
Speaker 1: Like I imagine them asking him, Hey, what do you think
23:52
Speaker 1: of the last fifty years? This organization has been lousy?
23:55
Speaker 1: It's the worst organization in sports. What do they play?
23:58
Speaker 1: Professional football? Playing quarterback market number one?
24:01
Speaker 2: I'm in Yeah, I so badly want him now, trade
24:05
Speaker 2: my Lord and Savior. Yeah, he'll be out on league
24:08
Speaker 2: in five years. Go ahead, Mikey.
24:09
Speaker 4: Next, Hey is he Yeah? Rumor has it that Kyler
24:14
Speaker 4: Murray might already have a new team lined up?
24:18
Speaker 2: Oh and it's.
24:20
Speaker 4: The Minnesota Vikings.
24:21
Speaker 1: Oh wow, wow, Taylor clapping your hands? What's going on in.
24:28
Speaker 2: Okay?
24:29
Speaker 3: So that is not only a great rumor to hear,
24:34
Speaker 3: it's the perfect landing spot for him of the available ones,
24:38
Speaker 3: but even if he didn't pick that particular spot, or
24:41
Speaker 3: if he was going to pick it.
24:42
Speaker 2: It's just a rumor, Stu.
24:44
Speaker 3: I've never been more convinced that Kyler Murray, if he
24:50
Speaker 3: does one thing, is going to be great.
24:53
Speaker 2: But we have to stop right here.
24:55
Speaker 3: Because Taylor has some breaking news and right now we're
24:59
Speaker 3: just talking about rumors.
25:01
Speaker 2: So breaking news always takes precedent. So we're going from
25:03
Speaker 2: rumors to actual news.
25:04
Speaker 1: Yes, this is again, we're back to a headline. I
25:07
Speaker 1: prefer rumors, but go ahead, Taylor.
25:09
Speaker 5: The Raiders, according to Adam Schefter, are releasing last season
25:12
Speaker 5: starting quarterback Gino Smith barring a trade before the start
25:16
Speaker 5: of the new league year.
25:18
Speaker 2: Frank Reike wants him.
25:19
Speaker 4: He does. That is one of the That is one
25:23
Speaker 4: of the names that Frank Reich wants. Carson Wentz, Gino Smith. Uh,
25:29
Speaker 4: whichever car is available. I forget which one is coming.
25:32
Speaker 1: Out of retire the cars, Derek not David h So
25:36
Speaker 1: he wants a bridge quarterback, that's all he wants. He
25:38
Speaker 1: essentially wants a bridge quarterback. That's what he wants Murray, right, Yes,
25:42
Speaker 1: but is he You think Kyler Murray is going to
25:45
Speaker 1: be good based if he does one thing differently.
25:47
Speaker 2: Yes, he'll become the quarterback we all thought he was
25:49
Speaker 2: going to be.
25:49
Speaker 4: Yeah, so let's hear.
25:51
Speaker 2: Let's take a quick well, no, let's take a quick
25:53
Speaker 2: see that actually, say Kingsbury thought he was going to be.
25:55
Speaker 3: Right, Let's take a quick recap down Kyler Murray's career.
25:58
Speaker 2: Okay, all the way back to high school. Dude, I
26:01
Speaker 2: don't know if you knew this.
26:02
Speaker 3: Forty two and oh in high school, three consecutive state championships. Unbelievable,
26:06
Speaker 3: number one you know, recruit in the country. Okay, Then
26:10
Speaker 3: there was that conversation of does he love football like
26:13
Speaker 3: that because he played baseball as well. I tend to
26:15
Speaker 3: think if you're playing two sports at a professional level.
26:19
Speaker 2: You're an elite competitor. You love that shit Like if
26:21
Speaker 2: you pay too you don't love one.
26:24
Speaker 3: Taylor knows that, right, Yeah, he transferred to Oklahoma from
26:29
Speaker 3: A and M, played behind the number one pick in
26:31
Speaker 3: the draft, and then win and win the Heisman and
26:34
Speaker 3: was the number one pick himself. Right, got all that right? Okay,
26:39
Speaker 3: first few years whatever, showed some promise. Start off seven
26:42
Speaker 3: to oh in twenty twenty one, right, he lost in
26:45
Speaker 3: a playoffs to the eventual Super Bowl winners, and basically
26:50
Speaker 3: did that in a college offense.
26:51
Speaker 2: It was Cliff Kingsbury stuff.
26:53
Speaker 3: Okay, he gets the big contract extension and that's where
26:56
Speaker 3: the whole thing goes left because they have the one
26:59
Speaker 3: claw was in there with the you got to study
27:02
Speaker 3: for four hours, which became such an embarrassment they eventually
27:05
Speaker 3: took it out. But then all of a sudden, his
27:06
Speaker 3: work ethic is a problem. He has a season with
27:10
Speaker 3: DeAndre Hopkins suspended, he's got a hammy thing, he tears
27:13
Speaker 3: his ACL like in a non contact situation. Like all
27:17
Speaker 3: these things I don't think are great measures for him
27:21
Speaker 3: because everything was kind of wacky, and then you get
27:23
Speaker 3: the ACL tear right the one thing and while he
27:27
Speaker 3: was down, Basically that's when the Cliff Kingsbury stuff happened.
27:29
Speaker 3: They ruined the GM left and everything else. If he
27:33
Speaker 3: can avoid injuries too, so the one thing I'm saying
27:37
Speaker 3: is he needs to if they need to know how
27:39
Speaker 3: he's willing to train because a non contact injury. For
27:41
Speaker 3: the most part, I'm not saying you can avoid that entirely,
27:44
Speaker 3: but if you watch his injury, you can. You can
27:47
Speaker 3: train in a way where non contact injuries just are
27:50
Speaker 3: very slim probability. Okay, the reason I say that is
27:53
Speaker 3: because Mikey, he's twenty eight, twenty nine years old.
27:57
Speaker 2: Can he go play baseball? Now? I think that's that
28:00
Speaker 2: ship has sailed. I think it's too late.
28:02
Speaker 3: If that man has any competitive spirit in him, it's
28:05
Speaker 3: in its one sport and this one sport only, and
28:08
Speaker 3: the desire to be the Sam Darnald who just did
28:11
Speaker 3: it for us, just showed us.
28:13
Speaker 2: And he's got to say to himself, I'm better than
28:14
Speaker 2: that dude.
28:15
Speaker 3: And then he goes to a Minnesota team that has
28:17
Speaker 3: built in wide receivers and talent. As long as he
28:20
Speaker 3: trains in a way where he doesn't get injured. I'm
28:22
Speaker 3: not saying be as quick and fast as he was before,
28:25
Speaker 3: but just training away where you're sort of taking out
28:27
Speaker 3: the possibility of those non contact injuries.
28:31
Speaker 2: I think that dude is going to be pro Bowl level.
28:34
Speaker 3: Like I don't know about spectacular, but he's going to
28:36
Speaker 3: be very very good again.
28:38
Speaker 1: Tooth awful, way too nuanced, Mikey. I know Mikey was
28:41
Speaker 1: feeling it, Taylor was feeling it.
28:42
Speaker 2: It's the finer feeling. It's a mill.
28:44
Speaker 1: It just goes round and around. We throw around Wilbers,
28:47
Speaker 1: We toss him around. Here's how you play the game.
28:49
Speaker 1: When he says that Kyler Murray vikings, just say Kevin
28:51
Speaker 1: O'Connell quarterback, whisper of my ass. I mean, Jesus Christ,
28:54
Speaker 1: he had Donald, he let Donald go. He swore to
28:56
Speaker 1: us that JJ McCarthy was gonna be good. JJ McCarthy
28:59
Speaker 1: wasn't good. He's not a quarterback whisper. He's an overrated
29:02
Speaker 1: head coach.
29:03
Speaker 2: We move on. It's it is he.
29:05
Speaker 5: I was laughing because I was looking up I was
29:07
Speaker 5: looking up Kyler Murray articles just to see what people
29:10
Speaker 5: were talking about about Kyler Murray. And we mentioned the
29:15
Speaker 5: Mike Florio Adam Schefter beef on the radio show yesterday. Yeah,
29:20
Speaker 5: Mike Florio put out an article on Pro Football Talk.
29:23
Speaker 5: In hindsight, the Cardinals should have traded Kyler Murray four
29:27
Speaker 5: seasons ago. In hindsight, the Dolphins should have traded to
29:34
Speaker 5: UH before giving him that big contract.
29:36
Speaker 8: Yes, we're not giving him the big contract. Did you
29:40
Speaker 8: think about that tweet before he put that out? How
29:44
Speaker 8: mad are you at me right now?
29:47
Speaker 2: No? I'm agree with By the way, Yes, he's gonna
29:53
Speaker 2: be good there, But it's just a rumor mill. I mean,
29:56
Speaker 2: I know, I know, but I'm not saying he's gonna
29:59
Speaker 2: be good with the Viking. He could be anywhere.
30:01
Speaker 3: He's going to be good anywhere, but Vikings is the
30:03
Speaker 3: best landing spot for I agree.
30:05
Speaker 5: Going back to Gino Smith for a second, how much
30:08
Speaker 5: do you think Geno Smith hates Clint Kubiak Because Clint
30:12
Speaker 5: Kubiak takes the Seahawks job last season and then one
30:15
Speaker 5: of the first things he does in Seattle is be like, Hey,
30:18
Speaker 5: Gino Smith, this guy's not my quarterback. Get him out
30:21
Speaker 5: of here. Gino Smith goes to Vegas, gets a second chance.
30:25
Speaker 5: Clint Kubiak now gets the Raiders job, and one of
30:28
Speaker 5: the first things Clint Kubiak does is say, Gino Smith,
30:31
Speaker 5: get this guy out of here for the second time.
30:34
Speaker 2: He can't win with him.
30:35
Speaker 4: I think you have that wrong. How much does Clint
30:37
Speaker 4: Kubiak hey Geno Smith is the question.
30:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Gino's pretty happy, go lucky. I thought,
30:42
Speaker 1: you know, Gino probably thought his career was done after
30:44
Speaker 1: the Jets and he had a resurgence. He really had
30:46
Speaker 1: made a lot of money in the process and made
30:48
Speaker 1: a couple of Pro Bowls about a career that we
30:50
Speaker 1: thought he was gonna have.
30:52
Speaker 4: All right, two more rumors here we go. Hey, hey, hey,
30:55
Speaker 4: Taylor quick Ones. Rumor has it Arizona might have found
31:00
Speaker 4: their new quarterback to replace Kyler Murray. Jimmy Garoppolo.
31:06
Speaker 2: He's still around.
31:06
Speaker 4: Huh, he's still there.
31:09
Speaker 5: That ship is sailed.
31:10
Speaker 2: Let me give you a breakdown of Jimmy Garoppolo. Question.
31:15
Speaker 2: He can eliminate this one thing. Let's stop down for
31:20
Speaker 2: some more. Gino Smith news real quick.
31:23
Speaker 4: That's a handsome man right there.
31:24
Speaker 2: Oh it is, yes, back up last ones too.
31:28
Speaker 4: Rumor has it that the San Francisco forty nine ers
31:34
Speaker 4: want more than a second round pick in a trade
31:38
Speaker 4: for mac Jones.
31:40
Speaker 2: They should.
31:41
Speaker 1: I told you that the mistake they made with Darnold
31:43
Speaker 1: was it was a one year deal. They didn't have
31:45
Speaker 1: him on a second year, so they had to let
31:47
Speaker 1: him go. They did not make that mistake with mac Jones.
31:50
Speaker 1: They signed him to a second year, and mac Jones
31:53
Speaker 1: was good when he filled in for brock Party. Plus,
31:57
Speaker 1: they can kind of position it like this. Look at
31:59
Speaker 1: what Sam Donald turned into being a backup after one
32:03
Speaker 1: year in San Francisco.
32:04
Speaker 2: Look what we turned him into.
32:05
Speaker 1: And Sam Donald gives Kyle Shanahan most of the credit
32:08
Speaker 1: for turning him into this, right, and so, yeah, that
32:12
Speaker 1: makes sense. Like I would, I would want I agree
32:15
Speaker 1: with them for wanting more than a second round pick
32:17
Speaker 1: for mac Jones. He played good enough and that coach
32:20
Speaker 1: helped him enough where you have to think he's going
32:22
Speaker 1: to be pretty good.
32:22
Speaker 3: I want the Jets to get him. I really do
32:25
Speaker 3: they have we? I mean Mac Jones. San Fransco forty
32:28
Speaker 3: nine ers are a team that's probably needed the most
32:30
Speaker 3: out of their backup quarterbacks over the years in key situations, right,
32:34
Speaker 3: I mean, And so I mean that's how they discovered
32:37
Speaker 3: brock Party, I guess essentially. And so I think they
32:40
Speaker 3: value I say that to say they value their backup
32:42
Speaker 3: quarterbacks probably as high as any other team in the league.
32:45
Speaker 3: And given what he did last year, Yeah, I mean
32:48
Speaker 3: I would value him as well a second round draft
32:50
Speaker 3: pick better than that. I mean, I would put that
32:53
Speaker 3: out there. Frank w Reich doesn't.
32:55
Speaker 2: Like him, though, so he wants Carson once.
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Speaker 2: Do we have blind rankings here because I'm tired of rumors?
34:23
Speaker 4: Yeah, We've got blind rankings.
34:25
Speaker 2: All right? Is he hates rumors? Do you understand you're
34:27
Speaker 2: dealing with a professional journalist. He doesn't like to dabble
34:30
Speaker 2: in the rumor mill.
34:34
Speaker 4: Wrong season for that.
34:36
Speaker 3: That's why I got by my least favorite thing of
34:39
Speaker 3: covering basketball. It was just the off season. And that
34:42
Speaker 3: was back in the day where it was like actual
34:43
Speaker 3: newspapers on your front door. So I'd wake up scared
34:46
Speaker 3: like crazy to see if Ira Winderman had breaking news
34:49
Speaker 3: and they're like, oh, shoot, nothing.
34:51
Speaker 2: What a terrible way to live.
34:54
Speaker 4: All right, you hate rumors, But how do you feel
34:58
Speaker 4: about blind rankings?
34:59
Speaker 2: Favor it? Trying to get and keep three. It's my
35:03
Speaker 2: favorite game.
35:03
Speaker 4: Keep three, cut five.
35:05
Speaker 2: This is blind rankings.
35:06
Speaker 4: This is blind rankings.
35:08
Speaker 3: And I recommend writing these down Taylors, so that you
35:11
Speaker 3: don't request, yes, keep track.
35:15
Speaker 5: Well, Mike, he's keeping track right, Yeah I am.
35:18
Speaker 1: But so is this the game and one of us
35:21
Speaker 1: is going to ask this every single time? We all
35:23
Speaker 1: have to agree on this blind rankings.
35:25
Speaker 4: Nope, this is that you all get to pick your
35:27
Speaker 4: own number. Here, Mike, you just to fill you in
35:30
Speaker 4: with Adam. I mean yesterday it was such a disaster.
35:33
Speaker 4: I think I accidentally let him get two four's and
35:36
Speaker 4: two number five.
35:37
Speaker 2: He did, ye, that's why.
35:38
Speaker 4: Those are big numbers to allow what is.
35:41
Speaker 2: He asked him to write it? Down is a complete disaster.
35:45
Speaker 3: To be fair, I also thought Adam Amen was writing
35:47
Speaker 3: it down because I told them at the beginning, get it,
35:50
Speaker 3: get your pen and paper ready.
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Speaker 2: He had nothing. Yeah, I mean, listen, he's also doing
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Speaker 2: us a favor, I.
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Speaker 5: Mean, and Mikey Nope. It would have been fine. But
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Speaker 5: after the ended, Adam I mean said hey, can you
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Speaker 5: tell me what my list was?
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Speaker 1: And then I oh no, I said, O yeah, no, idea.
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Speaker 4: I'll make you a ten plate like I've got one.
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Speaker 2: Two, three, four, five, nine? Yeah, periods or no period
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Speaker 2: after the number?
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Speaker 4: Uh no this time? No period sometimes dashes. I get you,
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Speaker 4: all right. So today's blind ranking category is NFL running
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Speaker 4: Backs twenty nine years and older.
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Speaker 2: Wow.
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Speaker 1: So current NFL running backs twenty nine years or older?
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Speaker 4: Yes, because the magic number for because the magic number
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Speaker 4: for a running back is thirty. So these are all
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Speaker 4: guys either thirty or going to be thirty.
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Speaker 3: And this is guys that I want currently one through
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Speaker 3: ten or have had the best careers went through ten.
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Speaker 2: I think, just careers, right, that's what we're doing.
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Speaker 4: I would say, this is who you want, right.
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Speaker 5: Walk It's a different game now, Okay again, So just
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Speaker 5: to be clear, Barry Sanders is fifty seven. Could Barry
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Speaker 5: Sanders come up?
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Speaker 4: Is Barry Sanders on a roster or at least going
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Speaker 4: to be on a roster?
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Speaker 2: Okay, kurrent, you'd be number one for me.
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Speaker 1: Running even to beginning he's coming back, he'd still be
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Speaker 1: number one. And the off chance that he does come back.
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Speaker 3: You know, I understand, even with those rules, I'm gonna
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Speaker 3: keep number one open for Barry Sanders.
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Speaker 4: You know what, I'm gonna do something I never do. Guys,
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Speaker 4: Barry Sanders isn't on the list. Okay, okay, all right.
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Speaker 1: So this is twenty nine or older currently playing in
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Speaker 1: the NFL of guys that.
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Speaker 2: You would want on your team running back position right
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Speaker 2: right now? Got it?
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Speaker 4: Okay? First name up, David Montgomery.
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Speaker 2: Power back wear and tear. This is gonna be the
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Speaker 2: first blind rankings around linking up stats. You can't blind.
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Speaker 3: That's it's blind, right right, damn it, Stop with the stats.
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Speaker 2: Let's see.
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Speaker 4: It's it's all I feel here.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: The problem with this list is normally I could think
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Speaker 5: ahead and be like, okay, I know could be coming.
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Speaker 2: But you know, yes, just twenty I don't know David
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Speaker 2: Montgomery going to be my numbers, like I'm so with tailor.
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Speaker 2: I'm processing Joe Mixon. How old is he? Like, I'm
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Speaker 2: just drying. I know he's coming off an injury, but
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Speaker 2: how old are these guys?
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Speaker 3: I don't know to trust Mikey and his let's say,
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Speaker 3: traditional approach to this game. And I'm putting David Montgomery
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Speaker 3: as close to the middle as possible.
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Speaker 2: Number five. I think that's a good play right there.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna put David Montgomery, who could still give you
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Speaker 1: another year or two.
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Speaker 2: I think, uh, somewhere in the middle there.
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Speaker 1: I didn't realize there were ten running backs older than
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Speaker 1: twenty nine in the NFL.
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Speaker 4: Oh, there's twelve. I had to cut a few.
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Speaker 1: Really, Okay, I'm gonna put Montgomery at six for me,
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Speaker 1: David Montgomery at six.
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Speaker 5: I'm gonna go Montgomery at three. Mikey, I think he's
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Speaker 5: he's got a lot left in the tank because of
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Speaker 5: how they view him.
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Speaker 4: Engineered Gibbs. That is well done. Next name up, Saquon Barkley.
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Speaker 2: Oh shit, are we allowed to ask how old they are?
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Speaker 2: If that would make a major difference.
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Speaker 4: In they're twenty nine.
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Speaker 1: And a.
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Speaker 4: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: Is he? I mean, listen, so Saquon Is. He don't
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Speaker 2: worry about the age.
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Speaker 1: Just realized that two years ago we should have been
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Speaker 1: the NFL MVP. Had one of the great years that
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Speaker 1: running back has ever had in the NFL. A little
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Speaker 1: bit of a letdown last year, had some injuries last year.
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Speaker 1: But all the running backs who are older than twenty
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Speaker 1: nine currently in the NFL, he has to be near
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Speaker 1: the top. I mean he has to be number one.
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Speaker 1: I would take Oh, I'm gonna put it on one
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Speaker 1: and take my chances.
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Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, I'm going number two.
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Speaker 5: Okay, I'm gonna put saquon one.
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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, right, you hold out hope for that year
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Speaker 1: two years ago exactly where I.
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Speaker 4: Yes, next name on the list, Sharon Jones.
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Speaker 2: All right, feel better now for a moment.
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Speaker 1: So no no follow up questions, Nope, just Aaron Jones Is.
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Speaker 4: He's trying not to google who he is.
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Speaker 3: No, I'm a fan of Aaron Jones. I just forget
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Speaker 3: where he played this passion.
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Speaker 2: I think it was the last year he was on
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Speaker 2: the but he was, but he was released, right he
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Speaker 2: was released.
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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm going ten here on Aaron Jones. He's better
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Speaker 1: than that. No ten, I got him number eight. I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna put Aaron Jones at nine.
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Speaker 2: I got Taylor. We were outraged by ten, and you
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Speaker 2: only moved him up once.
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Speaker 4: We moved him up one.
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Speaker 2: Definition of some antics.
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Speaker 4: I think.
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Speaker 2: Ten.
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Speaker 4: What how dare you nine? Next name on the list,
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Speaker 4: James Connor, still getting it done. There are some names
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Speaker 4: on this list like this.
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Speaker 1: Is no no. I would say James Connor is thirty.
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Speaker 1: I would say thirty one.
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Speaker 5: I think James Connor was my year because we played
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Speaker 5: him when he was at Pittsburgh.
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Speaker 2: M hm, so thirty one, right, thirty two, Yeah.
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Speaker 5: He's about that age. I'm gonna go nine.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna s not himnute seven. Why are you saying that?
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: I feel like that's because I'm higher on James Connor
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Speaker 3: than others, and that's all I'm supposed to say it.
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Speaker 1: Yep, I'm gonna put James Connor at eight.
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Speaker 4: I'm higher on him. I'm gonna put him one off
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Speaker 4: the bottom for.
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you know, Taylor put him ten.
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Speaker 4: I mean right, that's that's fine. Next name on the list,
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Speaker 4: Alvin Kamara.
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Speaker 1: He's still playing well. He is, Yeah, two consecutive years.
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Speaker 1: I only know this because he was on my fantasy team.
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Speaker 1: I put Tomorrow. Wow, he's a good player. I put
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Speaker 1: Kamara number number. That's not a number number. Fuck number
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Speaker 1: Fuck the epen box stands for four, number four for me.
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Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara same.
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Speaker 5: I'm gonna put Alvin Kamara five. Mikey split the list.
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Speaker 3: I'll tell you guys that have a niece that's gotten
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Speaker 3: in trouble in school because she keeps saying, what the fuck?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, she keeps hearing it from her uncle.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, thanks, what next?
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Speaker 4: Name up? Nick Chubb?
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Speaker 1: Chubb was with the Texans, didn't do much. Thought he
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Speaker 1: was gonna do a lot with that scene. Joe Mixon
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Speaker 1: was out the entire year.
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Speaker 4: One year removed from his massive devastating knee injury.
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Speaker 1: Right in one play away from that happening again with him.
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Speaker 1: Unfortunately for Nick Chubb, I'm gonna put him at ten.
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Speaker 5: For me, Taylor, I'm gonna put Nick Chubb at seven
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Speaker 5: just because of that injury concern.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna stick Chubby in at nine. I'd love a
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Speaker 2: little Chubby.
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Speaker 4: They're always a little chick for me. So, Taylor, you
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Speaker 4: have two, four, six, and eight available. Stu Gotts, you
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Speaker 4: have two three, five, and seven available. Is he has one, three, six,
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Speaker 4: and ten available.
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Speaker 1: This is how you host the game, Taylor. I mean there,
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Speaker 1: it is right there.
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Speaker 4: For the next name on the list, Derrick Henry.
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Speaker 5: I love my list actually right now because I'm putting
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Speaker 5: Derrick Henry too.
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Speaker 2: I'm putting them at two as well.
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Speaker 3: Yes, so this is where we might differ because I
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Speaker 3: just think, even though he's older, that Derrick Henry is
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Speaker 3: more valuable than Saquon Barko. So that's why I left
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Speaker 3: one open because I thought Derreck Henry would be available.
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Speaker 3: But now I'm racking my brain and see if there's
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Speaker 3: another still available that's better than Saquaan.
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Speaker 1: Oh, listen the way I number one, dere I'll take
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Speaker 1: them when they're available because I have no idea who's
43:53
Speaker 1: going to be available. So he's made Derek Henry available
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Speaker 1: to me, and I'll put them at number two.
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Speaker 2: That's a number one for me.
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Speaker 4: Next name, Go ahead, go ahead, Taylor.
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Speaker 5: Last year, before the After Ravens Game one, I was
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Speaker 5: texting to Tony and I said, I think I think
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Speaker 5: Derrick Henry might be washed. Since then, he's rushed for
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Speaker 5: almost four thousand yards and two seasons with thirty two touchdowns.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's totally stop letting you know about it.
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Speaker 4: Everything. He might be washed.
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Speaker 2: Fall security has washed.
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Speaker 4: Next name on the list, friend of the show where
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Speaker 4: he mostered?
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Speaker 2: Oh, I would have it. That's why you leave number
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Speaker 2: ten open no offense. Friends love for him.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but he was he was relegated to uh the
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Speaker 1: kick returns last year on the r this is this.
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Speaker 5: Is just for running backs, right, just for running backs? Okay,
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Speaker 5: Because I have to factor in the the kick return
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Speaker 5: specialist part of it, then he might be higher. I'm
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Speaker 5: gonna put him at eight.
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Speaker 2: I'll put him at seven. I have to put him
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Speaker 2: at seven.
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Speaker 1: But I do think where he, if given the opportunity,
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Speaker 1: does have like he's in really good shape, and I
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Speaker 1: do think he does. He let the NFL touchdowns a
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Speaker 1: few years ago, so I think if given enough Gary's
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Speaker 1: he could be a productive guy. I'll put him at seven.
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Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, So Taylor has four and six left, Stu
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Speaker 4: Gotts has three and five left. Is he has three
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Speaker 4: and six left?
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Speaker 2: Wow, we've all played pretty similarly.
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Speaker 4: Yes, you have. For the next name on the list,
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Speaker 4: Kareem Hunt Chiefs Chiefs.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Chiefs had.
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Speaker 4: A pretty good year. He did when Checko went down,
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Speaker 4: he stepped up.
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Speaker 1: He did short yardage back at your touchdowns. Gareem Hunt
45:43
Speaker 1: was like a speedster, right, and then all of a
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Speaker 1: sudden turned into a powerback.
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Speaker 2: Is that fair?
45:49
Speaker 4: Shifty?
45:50
Speaker 2: Sure?
45:51
Speaker 3: When Chris Cody was doing started doing the word combining thing,
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Speaker 3: I really wish somebody would throw him Kareem Hunt and.
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Speaker 2: See if he would do that. Excuse me, it's okay,
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Speaker 2: keep it all on.
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Speaker 5: I'm going to put Kareem Hunt at six. I would
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Speaker 5: probably wish I had a lower spot for him, but
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Speaker 5: I'm gonna go six here.
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Speaker 1: I have no choice with them at five. Sorry, yes,
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Speaker 1: go ahead, No six for me as well? All right,
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Speaker 1: I'm going five because that's the slot I have. So
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Speaker 1: and all right, there's one better than Kareem Hunt.
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Speaker 2: They're better be.
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Speaker 4: So Stu gottson. I isy have three left? Tailor has
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Speaker 4: four left for our last name on the list, Christian McCaffrey.
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Speaker 2: Oh man, how is he twenty nine? You know what?
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Speaker 2: I like my list? I still like it.
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Speaker 1: Like The best move I made was putting Kamar at
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Speaker 1: four because I'm okay. Even though I don't get McCaffrey,
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Speaker 1: I'm okay. Having saquandered, Derrick Henry.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, got Eric Henry one just for the consistent product productivity,
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Speaker 3: Saquon Barkley two, Christian McCaffrey.
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Speaker 2: Three, which I'm okay with because of the occasionally and.
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Speaker 3: Then I go Kamara Montgomery, Kareem Hunt, James Connor, Aaron Jones,
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Speaker 3: Nick Chubb fore he mostered.
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Speaker 2: I think I nailed it. Yeah.
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Speaker 5: My only problem with my list is I wish I
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Speaker 5: flipped David Montgomery and CMC at three and four, just because,
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Speaker 5: like you guys said, I think one through three on
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Speaker 5: this list, if we had every name available, could have
47:19
Speaker 5: been pretty interchangeable.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm happy with either one,
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Speaker 2: with any one of those three.
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Speaker 3: Yes, I think coming off the last season, most people
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Speaker 3: would say Christian McCaffrey won, probably, Derrick Henry two and
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Speaker 3: Saquon three. If it was after two seasons ago, it
47:33
Speaker 3: would be Saquon one, CMC two maybe, and Derrek Henry three.
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Speaker 2: But McCaffrey was for the most part healthy last year, right, Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody, if you remember he started off the season,
47:43
Speaker 3: everybody was just giving him a hard time because, oh,
47:45
Speaker 3: he's gonna be injured again.
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Speaker 2: Da da da.
47:47
Speaker 3: Good luck on your fantasy season. And then he was
47:49
Speaker 3: healthy all season.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was awesome. I only point that out to
47:52
Speaker 1: say there's probably.
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Speaker 2: I hate saying this, but the guy's often injured. There's
47:55
Speaker 2: an injury right around the corner. I mean, they wait
47:58
Speaker 2: to justify your list. Man, gotta do what you got
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Speaker 2: ahead of number one. There is no justice byan. He's
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Speaker 2: the best player in football.
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Speaker 5: M h m hm