Latest / Brandon Fogal Evolution / #281 - Candace Owens Seethes as JD Vance Defends TPUSA’s Erika Kirk
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- 0:00Candace Owens got very upset with J.D. Vance and what he had to say in defending Erica Kirk.
- 0:06And she was seething. And we got to witness it on camera.
- 0:10Candace, I respect her for this. She does all of her shows live,
- 0:13which is a very smart and courageous thing to do because nothing is hidden.
- 0:20When you're live, as you can see, as people are here for the live version,
- 0:24you can see I can't take anything out. But what Vance said really struck a nerve with Candace Owens.
- 0:30And it was very intense because I've never seen Candace Owens react like this.
- 0:38And shame on J.D. Vance for taking the bait on that in response to Andrew Colvett's questioning.
- 0:44He's going to lecture us. He's going to come in and he's going to lecture us.
- 0:47Take a listen to what J.D. Vance has to say.
- 0:50Again, if your instinct is to go after not the left-wing radicals who are assaulting
- 0:54Savannah or not the people who shot Charlie Kirk, but if your instinct is to
- 0:58go after a young mother because she's grieving in a way that you find wrong,
- 1:04well, why don't you stay in your lane and mind your own business?
- 1:06Grief is complicated, and I just— You know, so there's another angle of this,
- 1:13Andrew, which is just so absurd, which is that, you know, people will say that, you know, Erica,
- 1:18you know, she's been doing this or she's been doing that and I would be doing
- 1:22something different. And it's like, first of all, that's fine.
- 1:24Like, if you want to criticize somebody because you have a disagreement,
- 1:27disagree with my politics, disagree with something that Erica or Andrew say
- 1:30on the Turning Point podcast.
- 1:32We do. And this desire to go after her for the way she's grieving her husband,
- 1:36that's the most preposterous thing I've seen in a very long time.
- 1:39And I've seen a lot of crazy stuff in politics.
- 1:41Okay. First off, we do criticize them all the time for what they say on the
- 1:45podcast. The whole public has been doing that actually since everything happened.
- 1:48Please stop saying this repeat phrase that everyone grieves differently.
- 1:50It doesn't matter how many times you say it. It doesn't make it true.
- 1:51Okay? You can't just say stuff.
- 1:53Everybody grieves differently. Yeah, no, for sure.
- 1:56I don't think I've ever seen Candace Owens that mad. But I think she does sometimes
- 2:00remove herself and she she steps out of herself and she's playing a role.
- 2:05She's not exactly being who she probably is at the core.
- 2:08I don't even know if she really knows who she is at the core because she's come
- 2:11in as a person that is conservative, representing Christianity.
- 2:16But it really rubs me the wrong way that she has a cross behind her and her
- 2:22whole show is to just attack, viciously attack Erica Kirk.
- 2:26And I think a lot of the people that are buying into what she is selling,
- 2:29which is a lot of people. At this point, do you even know what you're upset about Erica Kirk with?
- 2:35Like what? Every time she just says she's lying, constantly lying.
- 2:40Every, I watch her show. A lot of the things she brings up, it doesn't make
- 2:45that much sense regarding Erica Kirk and what you're saying that she's lying
- 2:48about. It really doesn't.
- 2:51Nothing stands out like, and this, that she is connected with her husband's murder.
- 2:56That hasn't come out. What has connected her with that at all?
- 3:00But Candace has just said that she has been involved and just accusing her of
- 3:06just ridiculous charges.
- 3:08But you can see that Candace Owens was very upset. And I think J.D.
- 3:12Vance, he stepped into it in a strong way.
- 3:15And I think that I respect him for that because we all know who he's referring to.
- 3:19And that is why Candace Owens is so upset in this situation.
- 3:23This went off the rails. I don't know. We're almost eight months since Charlie Kirk's assassination.
- 3:29And now every show is about Erica Kirk and turning point USA that they're somehow
- 3:34involved in the murder of Erica's Erica's husband and their, their former boss.
- 3:40And there's no, there's no there, there. I know it's like, what are you at this
- 3:46point even saying? Oh, it's just like mean girls.
- 3:48It's the people that are in the internet that are just going after Erica Kirk.
- 3:53It is, it's evil. It's absolutely evil.
- 3:57Like you cannot come to it with a decent person's perspective and see what they're
- 4:02saying about Erica Kirk and the threats that are coming towards her.
- 4:06And I know we can Drewski's whole point where he's making fun of her and did the skit.
- 4:10That's one thing I think he crossed the line a little bit there
- 4:12but that's comedy this is just like just non-stop
- 4:16like you're just like picking on someone their whole
- 4:19life and just terrorizing them and I know this isn't going to get across to
- 4:23many people but Candace Owens she's not she's not stopping from this I would
- 4:28respect her a lot if she just says I was completely wrong about Erica Kirk I'm
- 4:32gonna I'm gonna stop I'm gonna I'm gonna stop and the people that are out there who have listen to me,
- 4:38please stop, because this is going to get Erica Kirk killed.
- 4:41This is going, this is what it's going to. And, and I just see Candace Owens,
- 4:45if it happens that she's just going to play dumb and play, like I didn't do anything.
- 4:50You are stirring up everyone to just stalk her, watch every move of her,
- 4:57criticize her from every point.
- 4:59What is going on? It's like we're, stepped into a different world,
- 5:03a make-believe world that Candace Owens has created and so many people are just buying into.
- 5:10It's, it's, it's tough. It's tough to watch. And I'm glad that JD Vance,
- 5:14he's, he said that he was kind of put on the spot by Andrew Colvitt and asking
- 5:18that question, but you could, anybody that's put on the spot, even if,
- 5:21even if you don't, you're not ready for the moment, I'm sure JD Vance is ready
- 5:25for any moment, but like what comes out is going to be a, a nugget of truth.
- 5:30And I think that a lot of that was the truth and how he feels about this,
- 5:34because he's saying what a lot of just regular, decent people that don't just
- 5:39want to terrorize a woman and terrorize somebody else to make yourself feel good.
- 5:45He's saying what those people believe, because we know that something is...
- 5:51Terribly off with what Candace Owens is doing. It's tough to watch at this point. She's not backing down.
- 5:57Turn your attention on a guy. If you want to just focus on Donald Trump and
- 6:01just attack him, there is the sense that we understand that the woman is a weaker vessel than a man.
- 6:08We understand that. So if you want to attack men, go after it.
- 6:12You want to say you want to criticize a woman, criticize Erica Kirk, fine.
- 6:16But just every show to be about that you're you're
- 6:20just terrorizing this mother of that has just lost
- 6:22her husband it's it's terrible if you want
- 6:25to critique her on her policy and how she's
- 6:28running turning point but just to say that she's lying about everything she's
- 6:32non-stop lying where is she lying like really like just in a simple version
- 6:38instead of oh we're in a room you said one thing i interpreted it something
- 6:42different and this over here you said something you're saying something every
- 6:46something new every episode, Candace,
- 6:48everything it's, you don't stop.
- 6:51And I think she needs to completely rethink what she is doing.
- 6:55She's, she's misrepresented. She's not a conservative. She's not,
- 6:59I don't want to say she's not a Christian. I don't know her heart.
- 7:02I don't know between her and God, but I, I feel bad about the things I do.
- 7:07I do. I feel, if I do something, it, it makes me feel bad. And I,
- 7:11I, I cannot understand how she could be just attacking this woman nonstop. She's not stopping.
- 7:18And I, it's like, if she, if she backed down a little bit and maybe just said,
- 7:22I was wrong about this, or I'm sorry, Erica, we need a come together moment.
- 7:26And Erica not saying anything about it is just, it's just, but it's at this
- 7:31point, what can she say? What can she do?
- 7:34Nothing's going to be enough. But it is that one thing, it's like you almost
- 7:37need to make peace with Candace Owens.
- 7:40Otherwise, if you're in her crosshairs, she's not going to stop.
- 7:44And I can get it if you're going after a man, going after Donald Trump, going after J.D.
- 7:49Vance, but lay off Erica Kirk. Seriously.
- 7:53All right. Let me know what you think. Drop a comment and have a good weekend, everyone.