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Get laced up! Let's go! Yo, yo, welcome back
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to Banter with the Boys Gridiron Updates. This
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is week nine of the NFL season already. Rob Font
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and his Minnesota Vikings, and as well as our
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guest Dan with the J .J. McCarthy jersey as he's
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starting this week. But don't worry, we'll get
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after that. Dan, welcome back to the pod, bud.
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Dude, it's great to be back. Dan was on the pod
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last year, and we also coach. The same ice with
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you. Yep. Shout out to all those coaches. Shout
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out my family. Shout out my nephews. That's awesome.
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Welcome back, coach. Dude, for real. Yeah, I'm
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excited you're here. Appreciate it, Rob. Yeah,
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man, it's good to see you again, and I can't
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wait to talk some football. Yeah, buddy. Yeah,
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I think you were in our top five. Was he in your
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top five? Top five in points last year. Last
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point, I think. I was top five? Maybe. We'll
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have to look at it. I think he was pretty good.
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If you want to find out, hit that preview episode
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for week nine. We're ace in the hole today. Let's
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do it. Before, oh, obviously, Rob. Hey, how are
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you? What up? Hey, I'm here. I'm back. Co -host
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Rob. He's here. Thanks again to our, I mean,
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almost honorary co -host this season, Jake, for
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coming in clutch the last number of many weeks.
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So, Jake, thank you for your service. Word, Jake.
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He will be back this season. Don't worry about
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it. His Ravens getting a win. We'll talk about
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them here in a minute. Obviously, I'm smelty
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as well. If you watch the show, you're probably
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used to my voice, whether it's the show. or Fast
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Laps, the Formula One show. Kev, also here every
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episode, behind the cameras, getting everything
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done for us. Making sure you can hear us. Thank
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you for everything, Kev. The legend. The myth.
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Let's move right into it. Our week 8 game recaps,
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Kev. Recap. And, of course, we're going to start
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with our Vikes this week. Wow, that was rough.
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It was rough. Thursday night, and I don't know
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about you guys, I had to work Friday morning,
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so it just sucks going to work after that. Oh,
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yeah. Do you need a little hair on the dog after
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that? Just sucks. 37 -10, Chargers getting the
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win. Now, the part of me that's a Chargers fan
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is like, wow, that looks really awesome. At least
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he admits he's a Chargers fan, finally. I've
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admitted it multiple times. Do you listen to
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the show, Rob? Nah, if I had my own podcast,
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I would know. Yeah, you would know. Dan, you're
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a Vikes fan. What happened here, man? I kind
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of expected it, to be honest. I think Jim Harbaugh
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is – I'm sorry. I just think Carson Wentz is
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older and kind of outmatched for sure at this
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point in his career. Still a great guy. And I
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think Jim Harbaugh has the recipe to beat a good
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team as he is a great coach. Well, now – Sorry.
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No, you're good. He'll continue to do very well
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with the run game, which he has. He's completely
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restructured that offensive line, and that has
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a lot to do with their success in a very tough
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division. So, like I said, good coach, and it
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was going to be a tall task going to Los Angeles
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anyway. For us to come up short, 27 points still
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sucks, you know. You'd like it to be a closer
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game. But at the same time, with what we're given
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at this point, like I said, Carson wins. It is
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okay. And you mentioned Carson once a couple
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times, so we might as well just touch on it.
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I mean, dude was obviously playing injured like
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half the game. Yes, yes. As I know, I found that
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out. And may have allegedly hurt himself in London.
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So it's just like. At what point, and I guess
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it was more of Carson's decision, as we hear,
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that he wanted to stay in the game as long as
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he possibly can. Who knows? Is this his last
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shot? Who knows? Especially with KFC kind of
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being that alleged quarterback, resurrector,
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if you will. All the best to him. He just had
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surgery, so we'll see if he's back in purple
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or not. even in the league or not, you know,
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next year. Did he show you enough? Do you think
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somebody would pick him up, be a backup still?
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I mean, for sure. I think, you know, he's 32.
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You said he was old. I was like, how old is he
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actually? He's not very old, actually. Is he,
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what, your age? So you're old officially? I'm
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28. Okay, okay, okay. Once I hit 30. Yeah, Kevin,
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if you want to pop up. I mean, this game all
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started off on the wrong foot. The momentum changed.
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So if Kevin wants to drop that video, that Isaiah
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Rogers. drop well i think we can consider it
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at this point um it looks like he on that play
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right there from that angle looks like a good
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clean catch and Good start of the game. I'm having
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good vibes and everything. And then they replayed
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it. We have a second video coming up here, too,
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at a little different angle. You can see he caught
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it, but then he readjusted kind of as he was
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going to the ground. And then he lost control
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of it. And then after that, you can kind of see
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where you had it. And then you can see the ball
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come loose and kind of pop up into his chest,
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which I consider an incomplete pass at this point.
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And then we just had a really tough game. keeping
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Herbert in the pocket. He really extended a bunch
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of plays with his feet. I don't know how many
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yards he ended up on. 62 yards on the ground.
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It was always in a moment when they needed a
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first down or a couple extra yards in a scenario.
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Our front four did not get much pressure on them.
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Our blitzes, we tried, but they just feel like
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you said, Harbaugh kind of had our number. They
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ran a lot in the middle. They really picked us
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apart. through the middle. Vidal, their backup
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running back, had 117 yards. Yeah, yeah. Missed
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tackles. It was just a bad overall day. Losing
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Van Ginkle really hurts. It really does. I totally
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agree with that. And Ivan Pace at this point,
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is he going to play? He kind of benched him at
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this point. I mean, ever since that, he's been
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missing tackles throughout the season. And that
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Eagles game a couple weeks ago was a real highlight.
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Throw out Jefferson, though. He got his 8 ,000.
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yards passing the youngest player to do so. Congratulations.
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That's awesome. Beat another Viking, Mr. Ron
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Moss. Nine for 13 on third downs, 29 first downs.
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I thought he just missed it, but maybe I'm wrong.
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Maybe I'm thinking of a different one. There's
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so many different records out there. They can
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come up with any direction. First team, teams
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won by three points with a northeast wind. Of
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course, we've got to move on here in just a second.
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The only thing I want to say really is The Vikings
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once again struggled to stop the run. It seems
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to be a massive issue for them right now. They
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are 1, 2, 3, 4. Top 10 worst teams and rushing
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yards a game right now defensively. Again, L
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.A. will do. pull a running back kind of out
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of nowhere and get it done after they continue
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to lose them. So, like you said, there's something
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to be said about Harbaugh's system over there.
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It's obviously working. They're starting to catch
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a stride. And, you know, that really just put
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on display what they can do against a Brian Flores
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defense that we can say is struggling right now
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at this point in the season. We've seen plenty
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of games where it hasn't quite gone the Vikings
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way. I think you can say that the Chargers did
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kind of find themselves offensively, and it'll
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be curious to see how they look going forward.
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We do need to move on, though, of course. Yeah,
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we can move on. We could talk for a long time
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about the Vikings. Yeah, that stinks. But moving
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right along here, we're talking about the Cowboys
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traveling to the Denver Broncos. The Broncos
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getting the win 44 -24. Rob, we'll start with
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you. What did you see right off the bat here
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in the Broncos -Cowboys game? I mean, it was
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like Nick threw an early interception, so I thought
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it was going to be a competitive game. But then
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after that, Denver just kind of put a whoop into
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him. He ended up throwing four tutties. And then
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I think we have a video up here of RJ. Harvey
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starting to come into his own. He ended up with,
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would you say, three touchdowns earlier, total
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touchdowns. They averaged 4 .5 yards a carry.
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And Dallas' defense just kind of collapsed. And
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they got far behind. And Denver's got one of
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the best top five, top ten defenses in the league.
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And they shut down Lamb. George Pickens pretty
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well and no running game at all out of the Cowboys.
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So, yeah, it was tough to see. But Broncos. Looking
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good. And again, the Cowboys had a chance later
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in that game when they were able to bring it
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within 27 -17. Able to hold the Broncos to a
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field goal, so now it's 30 -17. But then truly
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after that, did almost nothing with the ball
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other than the touchdown real late, but kind
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of too little too late at that point. Dak kind
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of looking more pedestrian this game. You know,
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he was kind of looking MVP -ish. I don't think
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he had any interceptions to this point in the
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season, did he? No, he didn't. Yeah, I think
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he was 10 tuds to zero picks at the time. What
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a great football mind. No, that's just luck,
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I guess. J. Will did have an off game. But on
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the other hand, for the Broncos, it was nice
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to see J .K. Dobbins bounce back and kind of
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have a bigger game. We've seen flashes of that
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on the Chargers before he ran into some injuries.
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And, of course, his Ohio State team. days but
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a guy easily you can cheer for 15 carries for
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111 yards is really impressive and like i don't
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like sean payton as much as the next guy but
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his offensive scheme is really impressive i mean
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these guys courtland sutton rj harvey pat bryant
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um troy flanklin who caught two touchdowns like
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these guys aren't top five in anybody's book
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yeah but with Sean Payton's offense, they scored
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44 points. Like, that's really impressive. And
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he's making Bo Nix look like a young Drew Brees
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maybe. And for me, you know, it's funny you mentioned
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Denver's offense. For me, it's Denver's defense
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that's just absolutely playing outstanding right
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now. No, they're playing complimentary football
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all the way around. You can argue the front seven's
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playing great. The secondary looked awesome this
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game as well, being able to keep a couple of
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speedy receivers kind of at bay and under 100
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yards apiece in George Pickens and CD. Yeah.
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But, no, they're first in the toughest division
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in football this year. Like, the AFC West is
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– Yeah, I would – Like, the NFC North had three
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11 -plus win teams last year. That could be the
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AFC West this year for sure. Like, the Chargers,
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Broncos, and Chiefs could easily get 11, 12 wins
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this year. Like, that's going to be a stacked
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division. Yeah, I mean, and they're leading the
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division at 6 -2, so it's a pretty good start
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for Denver. And I think we talked about it at
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the preseason, trying to figure out actually,
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you know, was it this year? It's going to be
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the year that the Chiefs' run of winning their
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division title come to an end. Yeah. But, yeah,
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Denver's looking good. That whole division's
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looking good. We'll talk about Denver again in
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the Week 9 preview show. Don't forget to check
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that out. But before we move on to the next game,
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Cowboys have the Cardinals next week. Is that
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Sunday night? No, I think that's Monday night
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football is Cowboys -Cardinals next week. I believe
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it's in Dallas. Is that? Is that a good time,
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good opportunity for Dallas to get back on track
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next week? For sure it is. You know, whether
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Murray's going to come back from that game. But
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Jacoby Brissett's been kind of moving that offense
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around. You know, maybe a little controversy
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on the quarterback situation down there. He's
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a very serviceable. So maybe a story to keep
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an eye on in Arizona, you're saying, out of that.
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You never know. I mean, especially with them,
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you know, continuing to lose. And do they start,
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you know, kind of experimenting a little bit?
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Experimenting, you know. Maybe one of those quarterbacks.
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coming into next year's draft, even though Archie
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Manning's kind of fell off the map as a considerable
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first -round draft pick. Fair enough. Well, that's
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arguably, you know, we talk about some of these
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must -wins as we, you know, get deeper into the
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season. Well, they got the Cardinals and then
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the Raiders. Those both are must -wins before
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you got to play the Eagles, Chiefs, Lions, and
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the Vikings, Chargers in a row. I mean, that's
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a tough gauntlet. So you got to get these two
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wins right now if you're the Dallas Cowboys.
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Let's move right along here to our next. Next
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game, it's going to be the Green Bay Packers
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taking on the Pittsburgh Steelers. Big story,
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obviously, Aaron Rodgers facing the Packers.
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Yes, it's in Pittsburgh, but it still had the
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feel to it. Man, the Packers look tough. Look
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tough right now. They look real tough right now.
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Like, I started having the thought, like, you
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know, are the Packers actually maybe the best
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team in the NFC North right now compared to the
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Lions? It's one of the two. Yeah, I'm going to
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put a 1 -2, obviously. That's the game I want
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to watch this week, and it's not on. We'll see.
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I guess it's whether the Packers consistently
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from week to week. I feel like they have a game
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like this where they come out and dominate and
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everyone's talking about them. Their power rankings
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go up and then the next week they lose to Cleveland
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or something like that where you're like, all
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right, what team are we getting here? Micah Parsons
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definitely was very effective against Rodgers.
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Just constant pressure on him. Loves looking
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good. I saw a really interesting stat of all
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the NFC North quarterbacks. The Lions and the
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Vikings and the Bears, just a laundry list with
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a minimum of 10 starts. Then you go over to the
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Packers. You got Favre, Rodgers, Love. That's
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it. They're just living on Love right now. Unbelievable.
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Dan, what do you think? The Packers have definitely
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fixed what they had been when they played the
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Cowboys and they had that tie game. They kind
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of thought they should have got that one, and
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then the Cowboys had that late run. Fixed it.
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They're on a four -game winning streak. Tucker
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Craft is the real deal. That dude is insane.
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You were saying top three tight end before the
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show? He's a top three right now. Should we bring
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up the video? He's good at route running. He's
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fast. He's physical. And he came from nine -man
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football, Rob. I know. He's a South Dakota boy.
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timber lake or something like that they had like
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a live feed in the bar for at the game so yeah
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here's a highlight of tucker one of his two touchdowns
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on national tight end just like the center well
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that's a pop fly exactly that was crazy yeah
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adjusted to it and like that's half the battle
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right there yeah look at this roll right here
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just a little moon shot just way up there and
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just And this is one of many plays he made that
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day. I think 143 yards total he had. And, again,
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we've talked about that tight end room again
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multiple times this season. It's just dangerous.
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The offense continues to be more dangerous. I'd
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like to see a little bit more out of Josh Jacobs,
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obviously. Kind of a little bit off day, but
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Wilson kind of picked up the slack. Oh, well,
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yeah, he's looking really good. I forgot about
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that backup running back that they had. I think
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he ended up getting more carries than Jacobs,
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if I remember. I own Jacobs in fantasy football,
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so I was kind of surprised when I saw that. Right.
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I'm going to kind of pick on the Steelers here.
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I don't think Jalen Ramsey is the greatest signing
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that he thought that he was going to be. I don't
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know what they were thinking trading Micah Fitzpatrick.
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I thought he was really good there already. Yep.
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I just thought they ended up losing that one.
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But all the other. additions that they made in
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the offseason have been really good. Aaron Rodgers,
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DK Metcalf, and really, while I'm talking about
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divisions, they could go and win that division
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really easily. Oh, yeah, that one's wide open
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right now. Exactly. For sure, wide open. Even
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at 4 -3, they're still at the top. I hate that
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DK Metcalf was one -on -one. From, what was it,
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the one -yard line, two -yard line? I mean, I
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feel like that's just a cheat code. One -on -one,
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just run DK on the inside. Oh, yeah. Absolutely.
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Watch him run. Got to use that big body, you
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know. For sure. It worked for perfection. We'll
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talk about the Packers here in our preview show.
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But the Pittsburgh Steelers have the Colts coming
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up next weekend. Oof. That'll be a good game.
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It doesn't get any easier. So what do the Steelers
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need to do in order to be able to battle the
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Colts this week? For me, you've got to kind of
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get that running game going early. Obviously
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they were kind of not playing from behind, but
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when they started settling for all those field
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goals and then Green Bay got their opportunities.
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Obviously, they had to go away from it later
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in the game. But you've got to be able to establish
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that and stick to it for me. And that was the
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difference of that game. You said that you're
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talking three field goals that the Steelers had
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to settle for in that second half. Because, I
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mean, the Steelers were winning at half. And
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just looking at the box score, you can see 28
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points of the Packers. And you wouldn't think
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the Steelers' defense would be that suspect to
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give up that many points in the second half.
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Because I still consider them still a pretty
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solid defense in general. Yeah, they have all
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the pieces. I just don't know what's – they need
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to fix it. They need to be able to get the Daniel
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Jones in the pocket. They need to be able to
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contain Jonathan Taylor if they want a shot.
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And they can do it. And it was longer drives
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that they gave up towards the end of the third
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quarter and into the fourth quarter. I mean –
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78 -yard drive, 90 -yard drive. These are longer
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drives. That means they're getting to that. They're
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at least getting to that opportunity maybe of
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a third down at some point. Well, I think if
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you look at the last four or five games, the
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Steelers have given up 30 -plus points every
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single game. Tomlin, I don't know. He's going
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to turn it around, though. He's never had a losing
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season. It's still 4 -3. I was curious. I was
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curious, so I had to look real quick. The Steelers
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were indeed 1 -10 on third downs. I mean, that's
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just not going to get it done. And that's where
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I think, other than Metcalf, I feel like their
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weapons, that's kind of one of the things. Who's
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their second receiver? Is that tight end? You
18:41
could argue Calvin Austin. You could argue Friar
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Mews, but that's not. Like I said, that's not
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top five. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like Byron with three
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catches for 13 yards, you know, that's not really
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moving the chains. And then they made that trade
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for Smith. You know, you thought John Kuhl. Am
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I saying that right? John Kuhl? Smith? The tight
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end? Oh, Jonu Smith. Jonu, that's how I said
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it. He played for the Falcons last year. No,
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it was the Dolphins. Oh, yes, yes. Yeah, he's
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been around. I mean, three targets? I think he
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was on the Falcons at one point. Yeah, so you
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would expect, you know, if you're going to make
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a move for a player like that, you would try
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to get him the ball a little bit more. Sure.
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Oh, fair enough. Let's move on here to the, and
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again, we'll be touching on Green Bay again here
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in our Week 9 preview. But let's move on to Game
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4. our week 8 game recaps. The Bears taking on
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the Baltimore Ravens. The struggling Baltimore
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Ravens but the now somewhat healthy Baltimore
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Ravens who sent Tyler Huntley out there and got
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the dub 30 -16. This game felt a lot closer than
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it looks on the scoreboard. Things kind of happened
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towards the end of the game there. It's fun to
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see Derrick Henry get back in the end zone a
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couple times this game to King Henry back at
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it. But Tyler Huntley definitely doing enough
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to get the job done. Definitely still has that
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ability to also extend the play. Lamar Jackson
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-esque. you know, if you will. And that's why
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I'm really interested when they made that change
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to Cooper Rush, why they didn't pick Huntley,
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because he's more that style. And he's had some
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success again with them before, so I don't understand.
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And I just figured you wouldn't have to change
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the playbook more. You can stick to that RPO
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like Lamar typically runs there. And so that
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was a little confusing earlier in the season
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when they went to that. So it was really interesting.
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Like you said, the Bears were in it. I mean,
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they were up 6 -0 kind of early in that game.
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That's the problem. That's where they think they
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lost the game is when they were up 6 -0. If those
20:47
two drives are touchdowns that early in the game
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against a struggling Ravens team, that, yeah,
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you know, they just got back a little healthy,
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especially defensively, but it could have been
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a different game. Now, we can say that about
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any of these games that we're talking about because
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they all had a bunch of field goals, you know
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what I mean? But this one stuck out to me that
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early in the game, settling for two field goals.
21:09
For me, that was the game. It's huge because
21:11
then it puts a little more pressure on Huntley
21:13
to have to kind of do it on his own and put it
21:16
on his shoulders more, I guess. Well, for me,
21:18
it puts pressure on Caleb Williams. Like, we
21:20
got to finish these drives, man. At some point,
21:23
these field goals aren't enough. And we've seen
21:24
it in, what, two or three games with the Vikings
21:26
this year where we kick three, four field goals.
21:30
Field goals will get you beaten in the NFL, for
21:32
sure. Yeah, red zone's a big thing right there.
21:34
And like you said, the score was a lot closer
21:37
than originally. I think we got a video. of kind
21:39
of that last interception. I think the score
21:42
was like 17 -10, I think. I mean, it was 13 -16.
21:46
Yeah, 13 -16. And then this is just a back. Yeah,
21:50
see, and I don't know if he's throwing it, trying
21:52
to throw it underneath and just sails it. Because
21:56
there's a part of me, like, I don't know why
21:58
I'm trying to back up Caleb Williams. No, you're
22:00
good. And again, you know, back in your end zone,
22:02
probably a little bit of happy feet there. He
22:05
had plenty of time. Nah, he being planted, man.
22:07
Nah, his feet were quiet. I think it has a lot
22:09
to do with the complexion of Ben Johnson's offense,
22:12
where it's really inconsistent sometimes, whereas
22:16
one week he'll look really good, and then another
22:17
week it won't be there. The rhythm will be off.
22:21
And you're a big Ben Johnson guy. Do you think
22:23
Caleb Williams can eventually be that quarterback
22:25
for his system? Yeah, absolutely. If he can adjust
22:28
to what Ben needs him to be, like a gunslinger
22:32
like he was with Jared Goff, whereas he could
22:36
even be better because Caleb's got his feet right
22:39
now. He can still scramble and whatnot. So they
22:43
just need to figure it out. They've had success
22:45
on offense this year. They just snapped a four
22:48
-game winning streak, the Ravens did, and they
22:50
snapped their four -game losing streak. So, yeah,
22:54
they just need time, and Ben Johnson will eventually
22:58
figure it out. And just too many penalties, too,
23:00
for the Bears. They had 11 penalties this game.
23:03
I mean, you've got to limit that. Penalties and
23:06
turnovers killed them in the red zone. Bears
23:09
got a favorable schedule coming up. Cincy and
23:11
then the Giants and then Minnesota would be the
23:14
next three games. Who's next? Cincinnati. Giants.
23:19
Those are all winnable games for the Bears, including
23:21
the Vikings. In Cincy, though, that's going to
23:24
be tough. I don't know. Joe Flacco, we were just
23:28
talking about inconsistency. He'll throw four
23:31
or five touchdowns and throw to almost 200 yards
23:34
to Jamar Chase, but then we'll see. I know. The
23:38
Bears defense can be suspect sometimes. Joe Flacco
23:43
can possibly go off against the Bears, but who
23:45
knows. Can I ask this question, though? No. Do
23:48
you think that Tyler Warren should have been
23:50
drafted over Cortland Loveland? Oh, Colston Loveland?
23:55
Colston. Because right now Tyler Warren is looking
23:59
like possibly a rookie of the year. I think with
24:02
Cole Komet already at that solidified tight end
24:06
one spot, it's kind of going to be let's see
24:09
what Komet is capable of these next two years
24:13
and see if we really want him around because
24:15
Colston is going to be there for long term now,
24:17
obviously. So he's still kind of two, one -ish
24:23
tier. tight end for the Bears right now because
24:26
of Komet. So they just have weapons everywhere.
24:29
And Caleb just needs to settle in and learn how
24:31
to drive the car, which is the Bears' offense.
24:34
Exactly. Oh, for sure. There's definitely weapons
24:36
there. Oh, come on. There's definitely weapons
24:38
there. I mean, their first two picks, they had
24:39
weapons. Yep. All those guys have high ceilings
24:45
for sure. All right. So I think that'll do it
24:47
here for the Ravens getting the win over the
24:49
Bears, 30 -16. Back on the train for the Ravens.
24:54
We'll see. Do we talk about them? No. Who do
24:56
they got? Real quick, real quick, real quick
24:58
before we move on. Who do they got next? The
25:00
Dolphins. Oh, yeah. Thursday night football.
25:02
Dolphins on Thursday night. Quick turnaround.
25:05
Dolphins coming off a win. Ravens coming off
25:07
a win. I would imagine the Ravens can take care
25:12
of business against the Dolphins, but we'll see.
25:15
Is it in Baltimore or in Miami? Do we know if
25:19
Lamar's playing yet? I don't know. I don't think
25:22
we officially know right now. On the spread right
25:24
now, it's 7 .5 in favor of the Ravens. For Baltimore.
25:28
I would imagine. Don't rush it, dude. It's a
25:32
short week. Just have Tyler Huntley go out there
25:34
again. I think they can do it. Just slam. But
25:38
that 2 -5 record would make it tough, though,
25:41
because you can't be giving up anymore else.
25:43
You can't lose anything. And then you've got
25:45
to go play in Minnesota, which, as we know, can
25:47
get loud, at least in the beginning of the game.
25:49
Yeah, very loud. But it does get deafening in
25:53
there. So you do have that coming up. And we'll
25:56
talk about J .J. in the preview. Don't you worry.
25:58
Don't you worry. Last game, final game. Here
26:01
we go. We've got to move on. San Francisco 49ers
26:03
taking on the Houston Texans. Texans getting
26:06
the win at home. 26 -15 against, obviously, we
26:11
know the Niners missing a couple pieces defensively
26:13
in Nick Boveson and Fred Warner, but Texans able
26:18
to put it on them. C .J. Stroud, for me, looking
26:21
like he was able to get the ball out a lot quicker
26:23
this week, a lot quicker. A lot. You know, Woody
26:27
Marks made a... A couple plays late in the game
26:30
that was able to kind of help seal the deal for
26:33
the Texans. That kind of stuck out to me. And
26:37
then Xavier Hodgson's touchdown was nice, too.
26:39
Yeah, I think that's one of our videos up here.
26:43
I feel like it kind of got a swagger back a little
26:46
bit. CJ? For sure. No, for sure. That's exactly
26:49
what it feels like. And you can see the youth
26:52
of the 49ers defense really can kind of expose
26:55
a little bit. Look at that speed, though. After
26:57
catch speed. Like, he runs a fast route. I know
27:00
there's an angle from the camera above him or
27:02
whatever. You can see him run the route. I mean,
27:05
he runs the route crispy as heck, but then it's
27:07
the after catch speed. As soon as he catches
27:09
it, it's like he turns on the jets, and he's
27:11
just absolutely gone. But, no, I like that. Got
27:15
to sway your back a little bit. I think you kind
27:17
of hit that right on the head, and he's going
27:18
to need it this week with a tough opponent coming
27:21
in to Houston. 49ers really struggled. I mean,
27:25
McCarthy, I mean, McCarthy. Stafford, he had
27:28
less than 100 yards rushing. They were pretty
27:32
ineffective. This is probably one of Max's mid
27:37
-games lately. For sure. There's a big missed
27:40
call in this game, dude, that bugs the heck out
27:43
of me. I don't know if it was. Third or fourth
27:45
quarter, it was definitely lighter in the game,
27:47
whereas Jawan Jennings' deep catch, real deep
27:50
in the corner. Who's their left tackle? Why am
27:52
I tripping on his name? Yeah, Trent Williams,
27:54
man. Leaves so early. I mean, it was false start
27:57
city. Leaves so early. And then, gosh, that call
28:02
frustrated me. And then, actually, your boy in
28:05
Green Bay, the tight end that we were just talking
28:07
about. Tucker Craft. He had a block in the back.
28:09
That was a crazy miss, too, to me on one of their
28:12
touchdowns. Anyway, I forgot to mention that.
28:14
I'm sure those get realized all the time. Oh,
28:16
man, it was right in front of the ref, though.
28:18
Like, you've got to make that call. But I don't
28:21
know, whatever. That was literally the biggest
28:25
thing I noticed for the Niners is that massive
28:28
false start. But, yeah, the Texans defensively
28:31
able to keep CMC kind of at bay. We haven't really
28:36
seen all season for the most part. And Texas
28:39
has got a good defense. That front four, front
28:41
seven is pretty good. Backside, they've got a
28:44
couple of DBs that are pretty solid. I mean,
28:47
again, there's a reason why Trent Williams is
28:49
leaving early on a pass play. Because if you
28:52
go back and look at it, even him leaving early,
28:55
Will Anderson is literally in his face, dude.
28:58
And straight bull rushing him straight. I mean,
29:01
insane. Him and Daniil are a good one. Two tandem.
29:05
Yeah, their turn. Domingo Ryan is still a good
29:06
coach. They just got to a bad start. And if they
29:09
can win this week, right? We won't touch on it
29:12
a ton right now. That would be huge, actually.
29:13
But if they can win this week, that would be
29:15
a really big win, especially when you play the
29:17
Jaguars next, who are kind of like that borderline
29:20
bubble wild card team we don't really know. And
29:23
then the Titans, and then you've got another
29:24
tough one against the Bills. So a couple tests
29:26
coming up. And then Colts right after the Bills,
29:29
followed by the Chiefs. So Texans got a lot of
29:31
prove -it games coming up. Yes, yes. Who are
29:33
the Texans going to be the rest of this season?
29:36
Yeah, Texas actually finally got a little running
29:38
game going. They had a little over 150, and that's
29:41
one of the, you know, like I was saying earlier,
29:43
C .J. Stroud coming off that play action, and
29:45
that's just where I think he really succeeds,
29:47
and he gets the opportunity for Hutchinson and
29:49
Nico Collins to get open. So, yeah, Texans are
29:53
3 -4. 3 -5. I think. 3 -4. 3 -4. 3 -4. 3 -4.
30:00
Excuse me. Sorry. So, Niners fall to 5 -3. I
30:04
think they're still on top of the division, or
30:06
are they tied with the Rams at this point? I
30:08
think they are tied with the Rams. They've got
30:09
to be pretty close. Yeah, it was a little more
30:13
surprising game. It wasn't as competitive as
30:15
I thought it was when we kind of picked this
30:16
game earlier in the week. Yeah, I don't know
30:21
why I can't see the standings. I was just trying
30:23
to see where the Niners were. Yeah, the Mac Jones
30:24
really didn't play that bad of a game. Honestly.
30:27
He didn't play bad, but he just didn't. Interception
30:30
in the fourth quarter. Get him over the top,
30:32
too. But I think Purdy's got to be maybe this
30:35
week they're talking. Well, I don't know if he's
30:37
in your injury report conversation. No, he's
30:39
not. What do you got? But I just see some reports
30:42
of his possible return this week or maybe next
30:44
week. So that'll be a big upgrade. Sorry. No,
30:49
that's just it. And then if you can get Pierce
30:50
all back, too. Yeah, so right now the Seahawks
30:53
5 -2, Rams 5 -2, San Fran 5 -3. So that's a tough
30:58
division right now. That is a tough one. Yeah,
31:01
but they got Giants, Rams, Cardinals next three
31:03
games. So two of those three seem like an opportunity
31:07
for at least a win there. Yeah, opportunities
31:10
abound. And then you got that divisional game
31:12
against the Rams, so flip a coin almost on that
31:15
one. For sure. Well, fellows, that wraps up our
31:19
week eight game recaps. Recaps. Don't forget.
31:26
Weird week. It is a weird week. It is a weird
31:29
week. Don't forget to check out our Week 8 tent
31:31
talk, still to come, and our Week 9 preview and
31:34
picks, of course, still to come. Rob, thanks
31:37
for being here, as always. Thank you for all
31:40
your knowledge and information that I've learned.
31:42
I just point you in the direction, man. Make
31:45
it up as we go. That's all I want. Yeah, exactly.
31:47
Pretty much. Dan? Thanks for being here, buddy.
31:50
Dude, absolutely. It's good to always talk football
31:53
with the boys, spill a little bit of my opinion,
31:56
hopefully some knowledge. Hopefully some knowledge.
31:59
Yeah, be back here again, and hopefully the Vikings
32:02
have a little bit better of a record when I come
32:04
back. Of course. Well, if you want more of Dan,
32:07
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