Latest / Dr Justin Coulson's Happy Families / #874 Make Every Moment Matter
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- 0:03Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families podcast. It's the podcast for the.
- 0:07Speaker 2: Time poor parent who just wants answers.
- 0:10Speaker 1: Now, Well, Kylie. Right around the nation at the moment,
- 0:12Speaker 1: we have parents of big kids, I'm talking year twelve
- 0:17Speaker 1: experiencing in many cases a whole lot of pressure because
- 0:21Speaker 1: year twelve exams are happening as we speak in several
- 0:24Speaker 1: states and are about to happen in several other states.
- 0:29Speaker 1: Really interesting time for parents. And next week we've decided
- 0:31Speaker 1: that we going to offer a little bit of guidance,
- 0:33Speaker 1: a little bit of help, a little bit of assistance.
- 0:36Speaker 1: We've got some incredible interviews lined up.
- 0:38Speaker 2: You're saying, we look, I'm actually part of this.
- 0:41Speaker 1: Well you I believe that.
- 0:42Speaker 2: I've been superseded next week.
- 0:44Speaker 1: You haven't been superseded. You've always said that you feel
- 0:47Speaker 1: like you don't know what to say in an interview,
- 0:49Speaker 1: and so you've asked me, You've asked not to do
- 0:51Speaker 1: the interviews.
- 0:52Speaker 2: So we I mean, you decided to have a week
- 0:54Speaker 2: of them, which means you're kicking me off the podcast.
- 0:56Speaker 1: Speak of all the time you'll have for homeschooling.
- 0:59Speaker 2: Yes, funny.
- 1:01Speaker 1: Can I give you a little taster of who we're
- 1:04Speaker 1: going to be chatting with go for it. Okay, so
- 1:07Speaker 1: we're going to be having a chat with a guy
- 1:08Speaker 1: by the name of Oh you know what. No, I'm
- 1:11Speaker 1: not going to tell you. I'm not going to tell you.
- 1:13Speaker 2: Are they all academics?
- 1:14Speaker 1: No? No, no, no, they're absolutely not. In fact, the
- 1:18Speaker 1: reason that we're having these conversations not all of them,
- 1:20Speaker 1: but several of them didn't even finish high school.
- 1:23Speaker 2: Are they all dat?
- 1:24Speaker 1: But they've gone on to live incredible lives. Okay, yeah,
- 1:28Speaker 1: gone on to live incredible lives. Not going to say
- 1:29Speaker 1: whether they're male or female. I'm not going to drop anything.
- 1:31Speaker 1: Some of them got into UNI and then dropped out
- 1:33Speaker 1: of UNI. Some of them didn't even finish high school.
- 1:36Speaker 1: Some of them finish high school and sort of just
- 1:37Speaker 1: got on with their lives. The conversation is going to
- 1:40Speaker 1: be so comforting for any parent who is raising kids
- 1:42Speaker 1: who are struggling with school number one, but number two,
- 1:45Speaker 1: these are also great people, and to hear their parenting story,
- 1:49Speaker 1: their parenting experiences, I think is going to be brilliant
- 1:53Speaker 1: as well. We're going to keep it really short, really focused,
- 1:56Speaker 1: but super super helpful. Oh. I will say this though,
- 1:59Speaker 1: at the end of the week, we're going to have
- 2:00Speaker 1: a chat with an academic sorry, there's the academic good
- 2:03Speaker 1: for you, who has been looking at the outcomes of
- 2:06Speaker 1: kids who do and don't finish high school. And we're
- 2:09Speaker 1: going to talk about why high school is important and
- 2:11Speaker 1: why it is important for kids to be there, even
- 2:13Speaker 1: though the rest of the week is about why school
- 2:15Speaker 1: isn't that important, because we've got to have the balance
- 2:17Speaker 1: and we've got to highlight that every child is different.
- 2:19Speaker 2: Now is four against one balance?
- 2:22Speaker 1: Well, we've got four anecdotes for great stories. But you'll
- 2:26Speaker 1: be surprised. You'll be surprised by what the people who
- 2:29Speaker 1: didn't finish school have to say about school. And there
- 2:32Speaker 1: is one absolute ripper in there that will just blow
- 2:37Speaker 1: you away and turn everything that you think about what
- 2:39Speaker 1: I've just said on its head. It's I mean, gosh,
- 2:42Speaker 1: this whole podcast could just be about how great next
- 2:43Speaker 1: week is going to be, but.
- 2:45Speaker 2: It's not going to be about that because Friday is
- 2:48Speaker 2: one of our favorite days.
- 2:49Speaker 1: Every Friday, it's all do better tomorrow. It's the day
- 2:52Speaker 1: where we reflect on how we can be more intentional
- 2:56Speaker 1: with our parents and try to be better. Why don't
- 2:58Speaker 1: you go first today.
- 2:59Speaker 2: A few weeks ago, we shared our big news that
- 3:02Speaker 2: we had decided to withdraw our kids from traditional schooling.
- 3:06Speaker 1: And when you said big news, I was thinking, hang on,
- 3:09Speaker 1: that we just became grandparents, or that I broke my
- 3:10Speaker 1: neck on my back, or that the kids are homeschooling,
- 3:13Speaker 1: and you've gone with the least exciting of all three.
- 3:14Speaker 1: But that's fine, that's fine.
- 3:16Speaker 2: Well, it is my learning from this eighties Okay.
- 3:18Speaker 1: I'm so sorry as you were, And.
- 3:21Speaker 2: So I thought I would just give everybody an update
- 3:23Speaker 2: on how our first few weeks of unschooling, because we
- 3:27Speaker 2: haven't started homeschooling where unschooling at the moment has gone.
- 3:30Speaker 1: I'm fascinated to hear what you've got to say about this,
- 3:32Speaker 1: because there hasn't. I'm not going to say anything. I'm
- 3:35Speaker 1: not going to make any judgments away, you go.
- 3:37Speaker 2: I'm just going to put the con out there, the
- 3:39Speaker 2: con straight away.
- 3:40Speaker 1: One big con.
- 3:41Speaker 2: The biggest challenge that I'm having right now is just
- 3:45Speaker 2: finding our rhythm. It's really really hard to find your rhythm.
- 3:50Speaker 1: Because you've kind of gone from having a life. And
- 3:52Speaker 1: I'm not saying that in a rude way, but like
- 3:54Speaker 1: you've had six hours every day where the kids have
- 3:56Speaker 1: been at school, where you've been able to do all
- 3:58Speaker 1: the things that run the house and run your life
- 4:00Speaker 1: and things that matter to you, and all of a
- 4:02Speaker 1: sudden you've lost that, And so now you're trying to
- 4:05Speaker 1: be with the children and give them the attention and
- 4:06Speaker 1: time and care that they need. But a whole lot
- 4:09Speaker 1: of those things then they're compulsory. It's not like they
- 4:13Speaker 1: were luxury items that you were You were living life,
- 4:17Speaker 1: had a full life.
- 4:19Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's that's probably my biggest struggle right now
- 4:21Speaker 2: is just wanting to be more available and present with
- 4:27Speaker 2: the kids. They're in my space all the time, but
- 4:29Speaker 2: actually wanting to be intentional about what we're doing together
- 4:33Speaker 2: and being constantly interrupted with the urgent of life. But
- 4:39Speaker 2: there is a whole list of pros that we're experiencing,
- 4:42Speaker 2: which I am just relishing and enjoying. So we've got
- 4:45Speaker 2: the con out of the way.
- 4:46Speaker 1: Yep. Great.
- 4:47Speaker 2: It is a challenge, and I'm not I'm not I'm
- 4:51Speaker 2: not denying that at all. But as we've started this process,
- 4:54Speaker 2: I have been overwhelmed at how many beauty to fall
- 5:01Speaker 2: things I'm recognizing and seeing and my kids that I
- 5:04Speaker 2: have not been there previously. The first one is just
- 5:08Speaker 2: this acknowledgement. I feel like I'm connecting with my kids
- 5:10Speaker 2: on a level that I have not previously been able
- 5:14Speaker 2: to do. I'm having conversations. These are actually, I'm going
- 5:18Speaker 2: to say, child initiated conversations, deep, heavy, important conversations that
- 5:25Speaker 2: they've been holding on to for so long because they
- 5:27Speaker 2: felt like our busy lifestyle didn't lend the space that
- 5:33Speaker 2: they needed to be able to share those things. And
- 5:37Speaker 2: so being able to have those conversations that have opened
- 5:42Speaker 2: my eyes up to the world of my children has
- 5:46Speaker 2: been mind blowing and I'm going to suggest life altering.
- 5:51Speaker 2: It has really created a connection with the children that,
- 5:56Speaker 2: like I said, we haven't previously had, but they have
- 5:59Speaker 2: felt heard and seen on a level that they haven't
- 6:03Speaker 2: experienced before.
- 6:04Speaker 1: I've seen it. I've watched it happening. Not that it's
- 6:07Speaker 1: been without its bumps, but I've watched it happening. And
- 6:09Speaker 1: there's been a softening in the kids and in their
- 6:12Speaker 1: relationship with us.
- 6:13Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's been that's been magic. I have loved
- 6:19Speaker 2: watching how engaged our kids are in life. Again, there
- 6:24Speaker 2: is an engagement that we have, we have been begging
- 6:27Speaker 2: for with our children that has just felt all too
- 6:33Speaker 2: hard in their lives. And now that we've taken the
- 6:37Speaker 2: stress that school brought into their world, that has given
- 6:42Speaker 2: them again space to engage in the things that fill
- 6:47Speaker 2: their cup and light them up. And so it's I
- 6:52Speaker 2: actually wrote it's I'm seeing an engagement in life but books.
- 6:57Speaker 2: Our children love reading books, have had a great love
- 7:01Speaker 2: of books, but with the busy schedule that we've been
- 7:05Speaker 2: living for so long, they have engaged at different levels
- 7:09Speaker 2: at different times. And our thirteen year old came to
- 7:12Speaker 2: me the other day after just two weeks at home.
- 7:15Speaker 2: She's like, Mum, I've read four books in the last
- 7:18Speaker 2: two weeks. And that means that she's doing a lot
- 7:22Speaker 2: of reading at the moment. There is a lot of
- 7:25Speaker 2: downtime for her to do that, but she's lighting up.
- 7:29Speaker 2: She's excited again. She's wanting to find new things to
- 7:32Speaker 2: read and to discover, you know, what else is out there.
- 7:37Speaker 2: There's also been I want to say zero, but I
- 7:40Speaker 2: know it's not. But the sibling rivalry that we've experienced
- 7:45Speaker 2: in the past has almost all but vanished because.
- 7:48Speaker 1: It's just more emotionally balanced, right.
- 7:50Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And so whatever rivalry is happening between Miss
- 7:55Speaker 2: nine and Miss thirteen is so minuscule that it actually
- 7:58Speaker 2: does not enter the equation.
- 8:00Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't read a stage, especially compared to how
- 8:02Speaker 1: it used to be.
- 8:03Speaker 2: We've taken the TV away, Yeah, and what a difference.
- 8:07Speaker 2: Ms Nin's really struggling with this. This is hard and
- 8:09Speaker 2: every day we're still asking, but we're getting through the
- 8:13Speaker 2: day without the TV. And that was probably one of
- 8:15Speaker 2: my biggest concerns leading into this. How do I not
- 8:18Speaker 2: have the TV on like all the time and we're
- 8:22Speaker 2: prepping food together. I know that sounds like really bizarre,
- 8:25Speaker 2: but I love that the kids are actually getting more
- 8:28Speaker 2: involved in the food prep and they're actually again have
- 8:33Speaker 2: the emotional space to try new foods that they didn't
- 8:36Speaker 2: have before because everything felt overwhelming to start with. And
- 8:39Speaker 2: now you're going to make me eat you know, a
- 8:41Speaker 2: carrot or whatever it happens to be. So while the
- 8:44Speaker 2: con is definitely big, finding a rhythm is hard. Yeah,
- 8:48Speaker 2: and I am really struggling with that. These these pros,
- 8:52Speaker 2: these experiences that we're having together are just beautiful. And
- 8:57Speaker 2: to see the kids connecting and re connecting with themselves,
- 9:01Speaker 2: with us and with life again is magical, So you
- 9:05Speaker 2: know what I've got for it.
- 9:07Speaker 1: So it sounds like it's a big tick at the moment,
- 9:10Speaker 1: in spite of the challenges. Yeah, at the moment.
- 9:13Speaker 2: Look, we haven't got a curriculum added into the equation
- 9:16Speaker 2: and that will change the dynamics.
- 9:17Speaker 1: Again, I hadn't chat with the kids about that. I
- 9:19Speaker 1: was like, so, you know, there's going to be some
- 9:21Speaker 1: learning soon and they're like, oh. Although I did say
- 9:24Speaker 1: to our nine year old Emily, I said, I'm really
- 9:27Speaker 1: concerned that you're not going to be interested in listening
- 9:30Speaker 1: to us and being involved with learning once we really
- 9:34Speaker 1: start home school. And she looked at me and she said, Dad,
- 9:37Speaker 1: it'll be okay. I'm going to like my teachers. And
- 9:40Speaker 1: I'm like, who are you tick? Oh that's us. She's like, yeah,
- 9:46Speaker 1: I'm very excited about it. Okay, So for my older
- 9:51Speaker 1: better tomorrow, I'm going to just share something that has
- 9:54Speaker 1: really really stood out to me in the last couple
- 9:57Speaker 1: of weeks. So I've caught a lot of aeroplanes lately.
- 9:59Speaker 1: I've been in Melbourne, I've been in Adelaide, and I've
- 10:01Speaker 1: been in Sydney. I've been all over the place for
- 10:03Speaker 1: the last few weeks traveling galore is Sydney a couple
- 10:06Speaker 1: of times in fact, and lately I've just been watching
- 10:12Speaker 1: a series while I jump on off planes rather than
- 10:14Speaker 1: working on the planes.
- 10:15Speaker 2: So you mean, while the kids and I have been
- 10:17Speaker 2: foregoing TV as part of an experiment to see how
- 10:22Speaker 2: screens affect us, you are watching screens.
- 10:27Speaker 1: The whole time you're saying this. I'm trying to think
- 10:29Speaker 1: of a really great comeback, a really great explanation. But
- 10:31Speaker 1: the answer is, yes, I have. I've got nothing.
- 10:35Speaker 2: You deleted, Disney.
- 10:37Speaker 1: I have no defense. I have no defense. Oh my goodness,
- 10:40Speaker 1: I didn't actually speechless. I just I don't know that
- 10:45Speaker 1: I can say what I was about to say because
- 10:46Speaker 1: I don't want the kids to hear what I was
- 10:47Speaker 1: about to say. All I'm going to say is this,
- 10:49Speaker 1: there's a series on one of the streaming platforms that
- 10:52Speaker 1: we have a subscription to about restaurant life. Restaurant life
- 10:58Speaker 1: that might explain a little bit to you about why
- 11:00Speaker 1: my behavior in the kitchen has been so focused lately.
- 11:04Speaker 2: Well, I did notice that your breakfast the other morning
- 11:07Speaker 2: was restaurant worthy.
- 11:08Speaker 1: It was, wasn't it?
- 11:09Speaker 2: It was? I've been really tasted delicious.
- 11:12Speaker 1: I made an on that was so good you had
- 11:13Speaker 1: to try it like I, and it was the best
- 11:15Speaker 1: on what I think I've ever made.
- 11:17Speaker 2: I'm really down to the presentation. You'd even drizzled your
- 11:21Speaker 2: best semch vinegar all around. I had a little bit
- 11:24Speaker 2: of rocket on the side.
- 11:26Speaker 1: Yeah. So this show, it's called The Bear, and I
- 11:30Speaker 1: need to just really quickly highlight every now and again
- 11:33Speaker 1: when we do reviews of stuff that we've seen. I
- 11:36Speaker 1: don't have any appetite at all for really course in
- 11:38Speaker 1: vulgar language. And it's been really hard to watch this
- 11:41Speaker 1: show because the family and the restaurant, there's an enormous
- 11:46Speaker 1: amount of dysfunction, and there is a lot of course
- 11:48Speaker 1: language and vulgarity in the program. But the show itself
- 11:52Speaker 1: is possibly one of the best shows I've ever seen
- 11:55Speaker 1: in my life ever. I mean, it is incredibly good.
- 11:57Speaker 1: Anyone who's watched The Bear would know what I'm talking about.
- 12:01Speaker 2: It's a food show.
- 12:02Speaker 1: No, it's not a food show. It's a proper drama.
- 12:05Speaker 1: It's not like there's nothing there that tells me how
- 12:08Speaker 1: to cook an omelet. I just watched them cook one,
- 12:10Speaker 1: and I was like, I can do that, and so
- 12:13Speaker 1: it's inspired me in the kitchen, but that's not what
- 12:14Speaker 1: my old A Bit of Tomorrow is about. It's not
- 12:15Speaker 1: about me cooking. And I'm trying to do this quickly.
- 12:17Speaker 1: I promised you i'd be fast, and you keep on
- 12:19Speaker 1: taking me on tangents, so let me quickly finish. There's
- 12:21Speaker 1: this really beautiful scene halfway through it.
- 12:25Speaker 2: We're still at the TV show.
- 12:27Speaker 1: Halfway through one of the episodes in season two, where
- 12:30Speaker 1: one of the most challenging characters in the whole show
- 12:32Speaker 1: has a massive change of heart when he goes through
- 12:35Speaker 1: a new work experience program. I'm just going to call
- 12:38Speaker 1: it that, so I don't give any spoilers to people
- 12:41Speaker 1: who haven't seen it yet. And as a result of that,
- 12:45Speaker 1: he has a really beautiful, in depth conversation with the
- 12:47Speaker 1: head chef in a restaurant. She begins to tell him
- 12:52Speaker 1: the story about the father that she had but never
- 12:56Speaker 1: had much of a relationship with until he died, and
- 12:58Speaker 1: she went through his journals and saw all the detail
- 13:02Speaker 1: that he made notes of in terms of the way
- 13:05Speaker 1: he lived his life, and there was one way that
- 13:07Speaker 1: he signed off every single journal entry. And just as
- 13:11Speaker 1: she's getting to the real crunch of the story and
- 13:14Speaker 1: that last line she gets interrupted and we never find
- 13:16Speaker 1: out what it was, except as this guy walks out
- 13:20Speaker 1: of the restaurant for the last time, he looks up
- 13:21Speaker 1: to where the clock is and there's a plaque underneath
- 13:24Speaker 1: the clock, and it just says, every second counts. That's
- 13:31Speaker 1: a theme that seems to be perpetually running through both
- 13:34Speaker 1: series of this show, The Bear that every second counts,
- 13:38Speaker 1: And the whole time I've been watching it, I've been
- 13:40Speaker 1: so swept up in the drama and so caught up
- 13:42Speaker 1: in the fascination that I have with the incredible work
- 13:45Speaker 1: that people do when they work in kitchens and prepare incredible,
- 13:48Speaker 1: beautifully plated meals for us to enjoy. I've just accepted
- 13:52Speaker 1: that in the kitchen, every second count. You want to
- 13:53Speaker 1: make sure that you've got great food and it's ready,
- 13:55Speaker 1: and it's played and it's presented, and it's served up
- 13:57Speaker 1: nice and hot, and everybody's working hard and every second counts.
- 14:00Speaker 1: But once I got that additional context from this headschef
- 14:03Speaker 1: sharing the story about her dad, it stopped me in
- 14:06Speaker 1: my tracks. I put the iPad away while I was
- 14:07Speaker 1: on the plane, and I stayed out the window and
- 14:10Speaker 1: I thought, Oh my goodness, this is the lesson of life.
- 14:13Speaker 1: This is not a kitchen lesson, this is a life lesson.
- 14:16Speaker 1: Every second counts. We've got to make the most of
- 14:18Speaker 1: every moment. We've got to stop staring at our screens
- 14:20Speaker 1: and I don't know, just fiddling our thumb, twiddling our thumbs,
- 14:24Speaker 1: fiddling our thumbs, fiddling with our thumbs, twddling our thumbs,
- 14:26Speaker 1: whatever it is, and make the most of every moment.
- 14:29Speaker 1: Every moment counts. Every moment has the potential the powerful magic.
- 14:36Speaker 1: And I've come home from my last trip and I'm
- 14:41Speaker 1: just so committed to making every second count with the kids.
- 14:45Speaker 1: So I got home and I had some work to do,
- 14:47Speaker 1: but I made sure that there was story time with
- 14:49Speaker 1: the kids, and I made sure that there was hugs
- 14:51Speaker 1: with the kids. And because we're so fortunate to live
- 14:53Speaker 1: on the Sunshine Coast, one morning, I just said, hey, kids,
- 14:57Speaker 1: let's jump in the car and ice and early, and
- 14:58Speaker 1: we're going to go to Noosa and walk on the
- 15:00Speaker 1: beach and go for a swim in the water while
- 15:03Speaker 1: the sun comes up. Making the most of every moment.
- 15:07Speaker 1: You don't have to live on the coast to do
- 15:08Speaker 1: that though, like you can go for a walk in
- 15:10Speaker 1: the park, or you can sit on the front porch,
- 15:11Speaker 1: or you can breathe in your living room and just
- 15:16Speaker 1: soaking up that time together. For me, that's my older
- 15:18Speaker 1: better tomorrow because there's been so much going on with
- 15:21Speaker 1: becoming grandparents and with the whole homeschool thing that we've
- 15:24Speaker 1: taken on with the two youngest kids, and with me
- 15:26Speaker 1: breaking my back and my neck and still having to
- 15:28Speaker 1: travel and work, and I've got a book that I'm
- 15:30Speaker 1: trying to write, and all this stuff is sort of
- 15:32Speaker 1: building up and building up and building up, and it's
- 15:34Speaker 1: the pressure and we've got to get that plate served up.
- 15:37Speaker 1: To use the restaurant metaphor a little bit further, but
- 15:39Speaker 1: every second counts, and for me, my older better tomorrow
- 15:44Speaker 1: is I don't want to spend one second on Facebook
- 15:48Speaker 1: or social media doing anything that takes me away from
- 15:51Speaker 1: the stuff that matters most. What can I do to
- 15:52Speaker 1: make most of the moments. So that's my older better tomorrow.
- 15:55Speaker 1: Tell me that that was inspiring, Tell me that that
- 15:59Speaker 1: really just got you going.
- 16:03Speaker 2: Well, I'm looking forward to an omelink tomorrow morning.
- 16:05Speaker 1: Yeah, omelet coming up just for you and that would
- 16:08Speaker 1: have been way faster, except you kept on asking me
- 16:10Speaker 1: all those questions about the TV show and it was
- 16:12Speaker 1: not about the TV show. Have a great weekend everyone.
- 16:16Speaker 1: We're so grateful you choose to listen to the Happy
- 16:18Speaker 1: Families Podcast. We hope that it inspires you to greatness
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