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$5,000 For Everyone · Booker Scott: Truth Be Told

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Speaker 1: It's 6 Eastern, 3 o'clock Pacific, from coast to coast
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Speaker 1: and around the world.
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Speaker 2: The Democratic brand right now has about the appeal with
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Speaker 2: the American voter as the Crackle Barrel rebrand has.
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Speaker 1: From America Out Loud Talk Radio, it's time for Truth
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Speaker 1: Be Told with Booker Scott.
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Speaker 3: Listen to me. I want you to hear this. I've
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Speaker 3: talked with the others, and we've decided we're not going
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Speaker 3: to be pawns in these hijackers' suicidal plot. God help me.
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Speaker 3: Jesus help me. Are you guys ready? Let's roll. Those
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Speaker 3: were the words of Todd Beamer on September 11th, 2001,
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Speaker 3: 25 years ago, a quarter of a century. Those passengers
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Speaker 3: on flight 93 flying over Pennsylvania, they decided to be
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Speaker 3: American heroes and Instead of allowing that plane to fly
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Speaker 3: into wherever it was going, they decided to overtake the hijackers.
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Speaker 3: That plane went down. They were all killed. And also,
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Speaker 3: almost 3,000 Americans were killed on September 11th. We said,
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Speaker 3: never forget. We said, never again. Have we forgotten? I'm
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Speaker 3: Booker Scott. And this is The Truth Be Told. Thank
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Speaker 3: you for joining us tonight and every night. I appreciate it.
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Speaker 3: And I do not want us to forget 9-11. And
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Speaker 3: it seems like a lot of younger people who really
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Speaker 3: don't have any recollection of it. A lot of them
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Speaker 3: were born. Some of them were second, third, fourth grade.
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Speaker 3: 35 years old now. How old were you? What, 20?
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Speaker 3: You were 10 then? So I don't know that they
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Speaker 3: have much of a memory of 9-11, at least not
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Speaker 3: like we do. If you were older at that time
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Speaker 3: and an adult, an older adult, it really had an
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Speaker 3: impact on us. In our lives, nobody had ever attacked
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Speaker 3: American soil like that. And now we look around this
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Speaker 3: country and we see Muslims and mosques being built. And
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Speaker 3: we should not forget that it was only 19 radical
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Speaker 3: Muslims that did what they did on 9-11. And God
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Speaker 3: bless the families of those that were killed on 9-11
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Speaker 3: and injured and still dealing with things. A lot of
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Speaker 3: asbestos came out of those buildings in New York, and
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Speaker 3: a lot of people are sick to this day, and
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Speaker 3: many have died as a result of that. So God
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Speaker 3: bless them, and don't forget 9-11. We're going to move
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Speaker 3: on to the Republican National Committee Convention, Donald Trump's rally
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Speaker 3: in Dallas. How do you think it went? I did
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Speaker 3: the show on Tuesday night, and I said that this
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Speaker 3: was pretty important. It's important to the Donald Trump base.
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Speaker 3: That's what it's important for because the base, the MAGA base,
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Speaker 3: they do not vote really in midterm elections. And he
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Speaker 3: has to get them out to vote or he's going
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Speaker 3: to lose control of the House of Representatives. It's clear
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Speaker 3: to see that's going to be part of what takes
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Speaker 3: place on November 3rd unless Republicans vote. Now, Donald Trump
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Speaker 3: has a lot of money and a lot of things
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Speaker 3: can change in the next 55, 50 days. All of
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Speaker 3: that is true. But right now, the way things stand
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Speaker 3: They are not good for the Republicans. So this was
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Speaker 3: an important meeting, rally is what it was. How do
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Speaker 3: you think it went? Did Donald Trump achieve what it
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Speaker 3: is that needed to be achieved in bringing the base
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Speaker 3: together so that they will go vote? It's clear to
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Speaker 3: me that this election, you're voting for one of two things.
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Speaker 3: You're voting for socialism or you're voting for freedom and liberty. Now,
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Speaker 3: Donald Trump happens to be on the side of freedom
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Speaker 3: and liberty. You may not like him. You may not
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Speaker 3: like his style. But that's the side he's on. Or
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Speaker 3: you can not go vote, and you are really just
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Speaker 3: casting a vote for socialism. But then Donald Trump has
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Speaker 3: a speech the other night, and I think he really
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Speaker 3: hit on some great things. A lot of accomplishments that
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Speaker 3: he has done here in America. 18, 19 months. Southern
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Speaker 3: borders shut down. It's fantastic. We would have taken that
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Speaker 3: as a win two years ago before the 24 elections.
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Speaker 3: But we seem to forget those things since we argue
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Speaker 3: back and forth about, you know, Iran and different things.
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Speaker 3: We're not getting everything we want when we want it.
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Speaker 3: We run out of patience and apathy creeps in, complacency,
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Speaker 3: and voting is not that important to us because We
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Speaker 3: just didn't get what we wanted. Well, if we have
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Speaker 3: that attitude, we're going to get socialism someday. We're going
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Speaker 3: to allow Muslims and mosques to be built. And then, well,
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Speaker 3: we have forgotten 9-11. I don't know. It was an
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Speaker 3: important convention. J.D. Vance, he spoke Thursday night. I think
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Speaker 3: he gave a great, great speech. I really do. And
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Speaker 3: there was something that Donald Trump said when he gave
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Speaker 3: his speech Wednesday night that got my attention. And I
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Speaker 3: don't know how you feel about that and what he said,
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Speaker 3: but that's all anybody has talked about, unfortunately, since Donald
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Speaker 3: Trump's speech. And I mentioned the other day that, you know,
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Speaker 3: the mass media, they're not going to cover this convention
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Speaker 3: or rally very much. The conservative side, they covered it
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Speaker 3: really well. And we knew that was going to happen,
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Speaker 3: but the mainstream media did not until Donald Trump said
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Speaker 3: what he said in his speech, and maybe that's why
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Speaker 3: he said it. I'm not sure. But I'm not sure
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Speaker 3: how this works, what Donald Trump said. And I'm going
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Speaker 3: to play for you exactly what he said. This is
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Speaker 3: what Donald Trump said on Wednesday night during his speech, which,
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Speaker 3: by the way, it lasted one hour and 47 minutes.
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Speaker 3: An hour and 47 minutes. That's a long time to
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Speaker 3: listen to Donald Trump at a rally, but doing rallies
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Speaker 3: is what Donald Trump does best. Here is my promise.
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Speaker 4: If the Republicans win the House of Representatives and the
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Speaker 4: United States Senate, both of them, because of our economic,
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Speaker 4: tremendous economic success, like in history we've never had anything
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Speaker 4: like what's happening, but because of our tremendous strength and
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Speaker 4: success economically, I will issue a dividend to every adult
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Speaker 4: citizen in the United States of America for $ 5, 000.
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Speaker 3: And that was odd to me, that Donald Trump would
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Speaker 3: offer $ 5, 000 to American people. Every adult, he said, that's
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Speaker 3: $ 150 million, roughly. We'll use $ 150 million as a baseline.
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Speaker 3: Why not? How are we going to do that? And
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Speaker 3: he was talking about the economics and how great America
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Speaker 3: is doing Let's listen to that part.
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Speaker 5: Tremendous economic success. Like, in history, we've never had anything
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Speaker 5: like what's happening.
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Speaker 3: What is happening, exactly? And this is a disconnect, I think,
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Speaker 3: with Donald Trump and the American people sitting at their
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Speaker 3: kitchen table where, you know, close to 50% are living
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Speaker 3: paycheck to paycheck, where inflation is up around 4%. Wage
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Speaker 3: growth is not outpacing inflation. So where is the economy
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Speaker 3: doing so great that you can hand out $ 5, 000? That's
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Speaker 3: what starts going through my head as I watch this.
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Speaker 3: What will this mean for us, for people at their
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Speaker 3: kitchen table? Is this what people want to hear, or
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Speaker 3: do they want to hear that gas is back down
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Speaker 3: to $ 2 or $ 3 a gallon? Because those are the
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Speaker 3: things that affect Americans' pocket.
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Speaker 5: Tremendous economic success. In history, we've never had anything like
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Speaker 5: what's happening.
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Speaker 4: But because of our tremendous strength and success.
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Speaker 3: And I really believe it was a disconnect. So I
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Speaker 3: went and did some math. I just don't think that
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Speaker 3: this was something that Donald Trump needed to do in
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Speaker 3: this speech, in this rally, in this conference, convention. I
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Speaker 3: didn't think this was something that was going to bring
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Speaker 3: the MAGA base together, which was the whole purpose of
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Speaker 3: this rally. was to get them to go vote. And
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Speaker 3: how does this get them to go vote? See, I
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Speaker 3: personally believe in conservative, fiscally conservative politicians, and I'm not
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Speaker 3: sure where they are anymore. I went and did some
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Speaker 3: math on this, and I posted this on social media,
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Speaker 3: and that's what I want to get into here. I
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Speaker 3: asked the question in this post on X, has anyone
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Speaker 3: done the math on $ 5, 000 Trump dividend? And he calls
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Speaker 3: it a dividend. which would give one the idea that
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Speaker 3: there is a surplus of money somewhere from whatever it is.
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Speaker 3: But he calls it a dividend. Let me start over
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Speaker 3: again on that post. Has anyone done the math on
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Speaker 3: the $ 5, 000 Trump dividend? I took the time. The cost
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Speaker 3: would be $ 1. 2 trillion. Using a baseline of 150 million
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Speaker 3: adults receiving $ 5, 000, over 20 years, it will cost each taxpayer... $ 17, 500
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Speaker 3: with the interest, not to mention the inflation. I thought
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Speaker 3: it was a simple post. I offered no opinion in that.
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Speaker 3: I'll go through it again. Has anyone done the math
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Speaker 3: on $ 5, 000 Trump dividend? I took the time. The cost
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Speaker 3: would be $ 1. 2 trillion using a baseline of 150 million
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Speaker 3: adults receiving $ 5, 000. Over 20 years, it will cost each
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Speaker 3: taxpayer $ 17, 500 with the interest, not to mention inflation. Is
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Speaker 3: there any opinion in that? Because I can't see any.
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Speaker 3: And you would not believe the comments that I had
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Speaker 3: On that post, people were very upset, and I'm not
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Speaker 3: sure why. Let me give you an example. This is Pete.
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Speaker 3: Pete says this. No American has any problem with Democrats
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Speaker 3: steal and spend billions and trillions when they're in power,
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Speaker 3: but as soon as a Republican president opens his mouth, boy,
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Speaker 3: is he in trouble. America debt is... $ 40 trillion, and
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Speaker 3: no American presidents or senators have done anything about it.
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Speaker 3: And I agree with Peter on that part of it,
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Speaker 3: or Pete, I'm sorry. But I kept getting messages like
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Speaker 3: this from people that conflate issues. Well, because the Democrats
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Speaker 3: do it. And then when a Republican president does it,
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Speaker 3: then everybody's got a problem. Well, this $ 1. 2 trillion will
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Speaker 3: bring on inflation. It will weaken the dollar. Those are
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Speaker 3: not conservative fiscal things. So I do expect a Republican
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Speaker 3: president not to do handouts. And I would ask the question,
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Speaker 3: what is the difference between Donald Trump giving you $ 5, 000
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Speaker 3: and Mamdani giving people groceries in New York or providing housing?
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Speaker 3: And everybody goes nuts over the socialist Mamdani in New
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Speaker 3: York giving out handouts. What is this? Because it's dividend
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Speaker 3: on the end of it? I couldn't understand the vitriol
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Speaker 3: in all of these. Some people said, don't worry, it's
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Speaker 3: not going to happen. I don't think it can happen.
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Speaker 3: It would not pass. But it was interesting to hear
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Speaker 3: and see these comments and how mad people got. And
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Speaker 3: I realized that what Donald Trump did by doing this
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Speaker 3: is not do what I thought the rally was for,
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Speaker 3: which was to energize the base and bring the base together.
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Speaker 3: What this did was Really create the opposite. And then
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Speaker 3: I wonder, did this rally do what it was supposed
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Speaker 3: to do? With people being like this on a simple
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Speaker 3: post that had no opinion. Here's one. If you base
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Speaker 3: your math on no growth, Dems want to take away
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Speaker 3: everyone's piece of the pie. Trump wants to make more pies.
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Speaker 3: I responded to her. Her name is Valerie, by the way.
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Speaker 3: I said, math is math. We shouldn't conflate issues. The
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Speaker 3: largest deficit in spending history is this fiscal year ending
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Speaker 3: September 30th. $ 1. 8 trillion. That's a Republican. House, Senate, President.
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Speaker 3: That's a record. That's more than any year Joe Biden
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Speaker 3: was president. How is it fiscally responsible to give out $ 5, 000
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Speaker 3: to everybody? And how does that help you win an election?
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Speaker 3: Meaning those 25, 30 seats there in the middle. I
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Speaker 3: don't think it does. We have $ 40 trillion in debt.
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Speaker 3: And I'm just reading these comments right now that were
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Speaker 3: on this post. Here's one. If we win the midterms,
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Speaker 3: the Save America Act will pass. I disagree. It won't. Hopefully,
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Speaker 3: whoever writes the bill for this, the $ 5, 000, adds in... Oh,
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Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Save Act. He's still talking about Save Act.
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Speaker 3: He said adds in proof of citizenship to get it. Actually, no.
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Speaker 3: He's talking about the $ 5, 000.
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Speaker 5: He wants.
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Speaker 3: proof of citizenship to get your.
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Speaker 4: $ 5, 000.
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Speaker 3: Interesting. Okay, Vincent says, I see it as a reimbursement
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Speaker 3: for the short-term economic sacrifice Americans have made while the
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Speaker 3: country takes on a threat that has endangered U.S. security,
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Speaker 3: our allies, and global stability. The check is temporary. The
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Speaker 3: objective is lasting security and stronger economy. And I think
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Speaker 3: Vincent has a good point there. I don't have a
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Speaker 3: problem with paying higher gas prices if we get rid
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Speaker 3: of Iran regime and their ability to create terrorism all
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Speaker 3: over the world. But again, I think it's conflating issues here.
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Speaker 3: Giving everybody $ 5, 000, 150 million Americans, is going to cost
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Speaker 3: everybody more money. I mean, yeah, cost us more money.
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Speaker 3: How does that help in the future? So after hearing
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Speaker 3: comment after comment, and there were hundreds that came after
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Speaker 3: me on X on this, people weren't happy with me
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Speaker 3: putting out that post that was offering no opinion. It
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Speaker 3: was just stating some fact. So I decided to make
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Speaker 3: another post. So I quote posted that post, and here's
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Speaker 3: what I said. The comments on this post amazed me.
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Speaker 3: Nowhere in this original post is any opinion given Only facts. Now,
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Speaker 3: I will give an opinion based on more facts. $ 5, 000
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Speaker 3: would be spent on big screen TVs and carnival cruises
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Speaker 3: to the Bahamas or Cozumel. Buy some, you know, silver,
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Speaker 3: sterling silver over there. Get a bracelet. Go to the
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Speaker 3: casino in the ship and spend some of that money.
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Speaker 3: That's where that $ 5, 000 would go. Meanwhile, Social Security becomes
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Speaker 3: insolvent in six years. Medicare is in trouble and there
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Speaker 3: is $ 40 trillion in debt. By the way, the fiscal
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Speaker 3: year about to end September 30th will be the largest
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Speaker 3: deficit spending in American history, beating every year of Biden's presidency.
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Speaker 3: Here is an opinion. An opportunity was blown with the $ 5, 000
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Speaker 3: brought up. That will not energize the base to vote,
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Speaker 3: nor will it persuade independent voters to vote GOP. I
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Speaker 3: have supported Trump for 10 years. Defended him with 700
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Speaker 3: articles and shows right here on this network. But this
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Speaker 3: was stupid and may cost him the thing that he
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Speaker 3: was trying to save. Congress. But don't get butthurt at
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Speaker 3: the truth. Research it yourself. And, by the way, I
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Speaker 3: still support Donald Trump. I voted for him three times.
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Speaker 3: I would vote for him again. But I am an
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Speaker 3: American first. And I look to the future. I have children.
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Speaker 3: I have grandchildren. Do we want to saddle them with
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Speaker 3: more debt on top of $ 40 trillion? Or do we
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Speaker 3: want to be conservative, fiscally conservative? Let's take that money.
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Speaker 3: Let's make sure Social Security is around for longer than
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Speaker 3: six years. Let's fix Medicare. Let's reduce the debt. Because
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Speaker 3: that debt, we're paying over $ 1 trillion every year. just
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Speaker 3: on the interest, and we're not touching the principle. It
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Speaker 3: would be much more conservative and sound financially to do
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Speaker 3: those types of things. Then give away $ 5, 000 that is
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Speaker 3: probably not going to bring the base together. As you
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Speaker 3: can see and hear from the people that commented on
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Speaker 3: my posts, it's not bringing us together. It's not energizing
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Speaker 3: the base to vote. And by the way, the mainstream media,
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Speaker 3: what are they covering out of this rally? In Dallas,
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Speaker 3: the last couple of days, they are covering this, the $ 5, 000.
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Speaker 3: And it's not positive. And you have to wonder, what
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Speaker 3: are the independents thinking that are so important to win elections?
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Speaker 3: And that makes the base even more important. Donald Trump
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Speaker 3: has $ 400 million in his pack. That can make a
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Speaker 3: big difference in these 25 or 30 races in the
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Speaker 3: middle in the House of Representatives. But I'm just not
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Speaker 3: sure that this rally did what it was supposed to do.
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Speaker 3: And I point back to this $ 5, 000 that would saddle
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Speaker 3: America's future with more debt. I just don't think it
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Speaker 3: was a good idea. I don't want the $ 5, 000. Keep it.
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Speaker 3: And don't give it to the people that will just
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Speaker 3: buy big screen TVs and take a carnival cruise to
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Speaker 3: the Bahamas or Cozumel so they can play in the casino.
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Speaker 3: That would be disappointing. Because after that, inflation comes. That's
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Speaker 3: what we said when Joe Biden was president. If we
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Speaker 3: do this and take those handouts of $ 1, 200 or whatever
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Speaker 3: they were, and it's costing a trillion dollars, inflation is
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Speaker 3: going to skyrocket. It did, to 9%. We couldn't afford anything.
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Speaker 3: Inflation's at 3.7% now. Do you think that's going down
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Speaker 3: by adding $ 1. 2 trillion suddenly into the economy? It won't. Anyway,
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Speaker 3: there is a lot of time between now and November
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Speaker 3: 3rd in politics. My hope is that this is going
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Speaker 3: to pass over, and I believe that it probably will.
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20:20
Speaker 3: don't deal with a lot on this program. I have some,
20:23
Speaker 3: but this is going to be an interesting conversation. We
20:26
Speaker 3: have Rick Hill with us. We have Rick Hill with
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Speaker 3: us now, and Rick is someone that was in serious
20:33
Speaker 3: trouble medically, and this was 50 years ago. But you
20:37
Speaker 3: know what? He didn't go through regular medicine. He decided
20:41
Speaker 3: to do a holistic approach. And somehow, some way, that worked.
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Speaker 3: And now for all of these years, he's been giving
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Speaker 3: his life to try to help people like you and
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Speaker 3: other people. You know, cancer is something that absolutely touches
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Speaker 3: every one of our lives. And that's what we're going
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Speaker 3: to have this conversation about. Rick, welcome to the program.
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Speaker 3: So good to have you. And I'm glad you're joining us.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, Booker. I appreciate it. I'm looking forward to this.
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Speaker 3: Well, let's go back 50 years ago. I think that's
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Speaker 3: where we start with your story, don't we? What was it? 1974.
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Speaker 3: And you have stage three carcinoma. It didn't look good
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Speaker 3: for you. You got a letter even.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: This is just how handsome I was back then. That's
21:27
Speaker 2: me with the gastro tube after eight and a half
21:31
Speaker 2: hours of surgery. And, uh, They put me on morphine.
21:37
Speaker 2: I was down to 120 pounds. And the chemotherapist came
21:42
Speaker 2: in for the chat, you know, the arm up on
21:46
Speaker 2: the thing on the edge of the bed.
21:47
Speaker 3: Sure.
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Speaker 2: Just to tell me how the cow's going to eat
21:51
Speaker 2: the cabbage. And he said, well, you know, good thing
21:57
Speaker 2: we asked you to bring your family into town a
22:00
Speaker 2: week ago. We found cancer. We operate on your neck
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Speaker 2: up here. We found it in the lymphatic system. We
22:09
Speaker 2: operate on the top of your feet. And when I'm
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Speaker 2: taking a shower every day, I look down and there
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Speaker 2: it is, this crazy scar, top of my feet, both
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Speaker 2: of them. And he said, we found cancer there too.
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Speaker 2: So as I measure real estate, you pretty much are
22:27
Speaker 2: head to toe. And so we've got chemo. which will
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Speaker 2: start on Monday. Today is Friday. Take the weekend off.
22:39
Speaker 2: I'm going to go home and relax. And he said,
22:43
Speaker 2: we'll see you back here Monday. So that afternoon I
22:47
Speaker 2: drove home and I got a, now here, if I would, Booker,
22:52
Speaker 2: if I was going to do a screenplay, here's act
22:57
Speaker 2: one and here's the inciting incident. And unlike the movies,
23:02
Speaker 2: this incident is not a bomb going off, not diving
23:06
Speaker 2: off a high building, et cetera. This is a 10-cent
23:11
Speaker 2: stamped letter that I got in the mail that day
23:15
Speaker 2: on the Friday. Brought it to me. I opened it
23:21
Speaker 2: and read it. It said, Dear Rick, if you want
23:25
Speaker 2: to live, you're going to have to leave the Mayo Clinic. John. Now,
23:33
Speaker 2: most rational people would have torn that letter up, thrown
23:39
Speaker 2: it in the trash, and yelled, mind your own business.
23:42
Speaker 3: Sure. Why wouldn't you?
23:44
Speaker 2: I don't know why I got everything shut off, and
23:46
Speaker 2: that thing is just bugging me to death today.
23:50
Speaker 3: I definitely would have thrown it away. I would have
23:52
Speaker 3: put it in the trash, and I would have gone
23:53
Speaker 3: back to Mayo Clinic on Monday morning.
23:56
Speaker 2: Well, this guy's not a doctor, okay? Let's start there.
24:00
Speaker 2: So I knew him. I was in seminary, and he
24:05
Speaker 2: would come. He was a Baptist pastor. He'd speak in chapel.
24:09
Speaker 2: But not your regular Baptist pastor. No. This guy was
24:14
Speaker 2: a John Birch Society member. And if you don't know
24:18
Speaker 2: what that is, think about MAGA, but on steroids. Right?
24:24
Speaker 2: Real conservative. And he'd talk about Jesus for the first
24:28
Speaker 2: 15 minutes of his sermons. And he talked about getting
24:32
Speaker 2: out of the U.N. the last 15 minutes.
24:38
Speaker 3: I agree with John, by the way. In fact, let's
24:42
Speaker 3: not get out of the U.N., let's get rid of
24:43
Speaker 3: the U.N., but keep going with your letter from John.
24:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I agree with him too now, by the by,
24:50
Speaker 2: but not them. I was one of the illumined ones.
24:55
Speaker 2: So me and the other boys that sit in the
24:57
Speaker 2: back of chapel, and I go, all right, He's going
25:00
Speaker 2: to get to the UN pretty quick. Are you ready?
25:03
Speaker 2: It's coming.
25:04
Speaker 3: There it is.
25:04
Speaker 2: And, you know, this guy would talk about the UN
25:08
Speaker 2: and other things, you know, Jekyll Island and all that
25:12
Speaker 2: kind of thing. So I get this letter from him,
25:16
Speaker 2: and he puts his phone number at the bottom. I
25:18
Speaker 2: call him up. I said, John, if you weren't a
25:21
Speaker 2: Baptist pastor, I'd ask you what you're smoking, and then
25:26
Speaker 2: ask you if I could have some.
25:27
Speaker 3: Yeah. what do you.
25:28
Speaker 2: Mean leave the Mayo Clinic? It is the citadel of
25:33
Speaker 2: modern medicine. He said, I agree. Well, why would I leave?
25:40
Speaker 2: Where am I going to go? It's the best in
25:42
Speaker 2: the world. He said, I agree it is the citadel
25:46
Speaker 2: of modern medicine and surgery, but I don't think they
25:51
Speaker 2: know squat about the human immune system. Oh, and where
25:57
Speaker 2: did you learn this, John? At Central Seminary? I'm really
26:03
Speaker 2: giving him a bad time. And he says, no, I
26:06
Speaker 2: just read a lot. And I talk to my friends.
26:09
Speaker 2: And look at it this way, Rick. You're not doing
26:12
Speaker 2: too well, I heard. I said, no.
26:15
Speaker 3: Okay.
26:16
Speaker 2: 120 pounds. I'm on morphine. Seeing the pink elephants. Not
26:21
Speaker 2: my best time of life. He said, I heard that.
26:25
Speaker 2: I knew that. And he said, there are clinics around
26:30
Speaker 2: the world, maybe some here in the States, but I
26:33
Speaker 2: haven't found out yet. And there are. And he said,
26:38
Speaker 2: but I know one that really is getting good results.
26:43
Speaker 2: I said, okay, where do I go? He said, you
26:46
Speaker 2: fly into San Diego. I said, oh, I like San Diego.
26:52
Speaker 2: And then he said, yeah, then you get on up.
26:56
Speaker 2: on a bus and you go down to Tijuana. I said,
27:00
Speaker 2: so I'm taking notes, John, help me out. You want
27:04
Speaker 2: me to go to my family and say, I'm leaving
27:07
Speaker 2: the Mayo Clinic, going to go to TJ, huh? And John,
27:12
Speaker 2: what are they going to do to me in Tijuana?
27:14
Speaker 2: He said, well, they have a natural organic treatment. And
27:20
Speaker 2: what's it made out of if it's natural and organic?
27:26
Speaker 2: He said, are you sitting down? Booker, nothing good comes
27:31
Speaker 2: after that question ever from anybody. And I said, all right, John,
27:37
Speaker 2: I'm sitting down.
27:38
Speaker 1: What?
27:39
Speaker 2: He says, well, it's an extract from the apricot plant
27:44
Speaker 2: or apricot. Now what part of the world you were born?
27:47
Speaker 3: I say apricot. What do you say? You say apricot. Okay.
27:51
Speaker 2: Yeah. And, and, I said, well, here's why you're not thinking.
27:56
Speaker 2: I eat every season when apricots are out in full.
28:01
Speaker 2: I eat lots of them. I like them. He said,
28:04
Speaker 2: you're not eating them correctly. I said, you want me
28:07
Speaker 2: to hold it in my left hand when I eat it?
28:12
Speaker 2: That is what you should be eating, bud. He said,
28:15
Speaker 2: that's inside the pit. That's an apricot kernel, and it
28:20
Speaker 2: is very high in what's called nitrilocibe. which is a
28:24
Speaker 2: bitter kind of amaretto finish. Bakers grind them up, use
28:31
Speaker 2: them in muffins, all that. And I said, oh, man,
28:35
Speaker 2: I can just hear it now if I take this
28:37
Speaker 2: story back. He said, well, I got some phone numbers
28:39
Speaker 2: here if you want to call some people. I said,
28:41
Speaker 2: I'm not going to do that. I'll tell you what
28:43
Speaker 2: I will do. I'll go see my chemotherapist this afternoon
28:47
Speaker 2: and tell him what you told me. Wife takes me over,
28:51
Speaker 2: get an emergency thing. Sit down with him. I told
28:55
Speaker 2: him what I just told you.
28:57
Speaker 1: Okay.
28:57
Speaker 3: And this is Friday afternoon then. Is that correct?
29:00
Speaker 4: Yeah.
29:01
Speaker 3: Okay. So you go back to the Mayo Clinic. You
29:04
Speaker 3: sit there with a doctor and you say, I just
29:07
Speaker 3: got a letter from a guy named John from seminary
29:09
Speaker 3: who doesn't like the United Nations. And he's kind of
29:12
Speaker 3: wackadoodle in a lot of different ways. And he tells
29:14
Speaker 3: me I need apricot. And what did the doctor say
29:17
Speaker 3: to you?
29:18
Speaker 2: Pretty much accurate quotations. I wasn't as nice as I
29:25
Speaker 2: would have told you. And I said, if you were me,
29:29
Speaker 2: what would you do? And he leaned back in his
29:32
Speaker 2: chair like this and he goes, you know what, Rick?
29:35
Speaker 2: It is warm in Tijuana this time of year.
29:38
Speaker 3: Interesting answer.
29:40
Speaker 2: In other words i don't think they're gonna help you
29:43
Speaker 2: you know whether you're gonna shots of tequila yeah he
29:48
Speaker 2: knew they weren't gonna help me and he didn't want
29:50
Speaker 2: to risk a 300 000k job a year by going
29:54
Speaker 2: run get out of here no just told me it
29:57
Speaker 2: was warm there. He could say we were talking about
29:59
Speaker 2: the weather. I said, message delivered. Thank you so much.
30:04
Speaker 2: Got up, went back home. We had dinner, stood up,
30:08
Speaker 2: told my family what I told you and the chemotherapist.
30:14
Speaker 2: And to a person, they all went like that. And
30:19
Speaker 2: I looked around the table, look at their friendly face. None.
30:24
Speaker 2: My brother, Sam, Sam Hill stood up and he said,
30:29
Speaker 2: you know, Ricky, we always knew you were stupid. We
30:33
Speaker 2: just didn't know how stupid you can be. And I
30:38
Speaker 2: looked at everybody. I thought that's it. I'm sick. I
30:44
Speaker 2: need some.
30:46
Speaker 3: You mentioned your family there a couple of times. Who's there?
30:50
Speaker 3: Who are, who's your family at that time? Again, this
30:52
Speaker 3: is 1974. So, You were much younger at that time.
30:56
Speaker 3: You were a young man when this happened. How old
30:58
Speaker 3: were you when this was happening?
30:59
Speaker 2: 24.
31:01
Speaker 3: Okay, so your family would be your brother and your
31:04
Speaker 3: parents and maybe some other siblings?
31:06
Speaker 2: Two brothers, one sister, parents, and my in-laws. And my wife.
31:13
Speaker 2: So I get, everybody's kind of silent. My wife is
31:15
Speaker 2: just looking at her shoes.
31:17
Speaker 3: The consensus was you're crazy.
31:20
Speaker 1: Yeah.
31:20
Speaker 3: Okay, good.
31:21
Speaker 2: We got my father-in-law, who was a big, burly, owns
31:26
Speaker 2: Caterpillar tractors, has a piece of straw out of his
31:30
Speaker 2: mouth all day long. And he stood up and he said,
31:33
Speaker 2: I like it. I'll take him down there and I'll
31:38
Speaker 2: help pay for it. Well, my family looked at their shoes.
31:43
Speaker 2: They didn't want this program. And I said, deal. And
31:49
Speaker 2: two days later, this Detroit greaser with the Fonz hairdo
31:55
Speaker 2: left for Tijuana, Mexico. And I'm telling you, yeah, I
32:00
Speaker 2: went down the rabbit's hole. I didn't know that world.
32:04
Speaker 2: Go ahead. Yeah.
32:05
Speaker 3: I was just going to say, so you're 24 years old.
32:07
Speaker 3: You hop on a plane. You do not go to
32:09
Speaker 3: Mayo Clinic to get really the chemotherapy. I know no radiation,
32:14
Speaker 3: probably a lot more drugs are going to be coming
32:17
Speaker 3: your way. You're at stage three. It doesn't look good.
32:21
Speaker 3: Did you feel like you had much of a choice there?
32:24
Speaker 3: Did you feel like, okay, I have to go try
32:26
Speaker 3: this because I know my fate if I stay here.
32:30
Speaker 3: What was your mind like at that point?
32:33
Speaker 2: The chemotherapist tipped me off. That man, basically, unless I
32:41
Speaker 2: read into it what I wanted to hear, said to me,
32:45
Speaker 2: if you want to go, then you just go. That's
32:49
Speaker 2: all there is to it. All right, shut off, not
32:53
Speaker 2: just the red button. Apologies. So I just felt like,
33:04
Speaker 2: you know, I do have a theological background. I do
33:07
Speaker 2: love the funny stories in the Bible. And what this
33:11
Speaker 2: sounded like to me was Abraham getting a wife for
33:13
Speaker 2: his daughter or for his son, Isaac.
33:16
Speaker 1: Yeah.
33:17
Speaker 2: And I'll hurry. He sends the camels loaded down with
33:21
Speaker 2: a jewelry dowry. 450 miles across the desert. He says,
33:27
Speaker 2: now when you get there, there's going to be a
33:30
Speaker 2: good looking woman at the well. Well, I don't care
33:32
Speaker 2: how good looking she is. I'm not traveling 450 miles
33:37
Speaker 2: in the desert on the back of a camel. But
33:40
Speaker 2: he gets there. He says, my father Abraham sent me
33:43
Speaker 2: down here and he would like you to serve the
33:47
Speaker 2: Lord our God as the wife of Isaac. We've got
33:51
Speaker 2: your dowry here loaded on these camels and When they
33:54
Speaker 2: walked toward her, her eyes were blinking in the reflection
33:58
Speaker 2: of gold. I mean, it was probably worth half a
34:02
Speaker 2: million dollars. And so she looks at the camels. She
34:06
Speaker 2: looks at him, looks at the camels. She goes, deal.
34:11
Speaker 2: Just like my deal.
34:12
Speaker 3: And that's the way you felt. You said, okay, deal
34:14
Speaker 3: with your father-in-law. Let's go. Let's get on the plane.
34:17
Speaker 3: Let's go to Tijuana.
34:19
Speaker 2: Three things in a row that are really stupid happened
34:22
Speaker 2: to me in one day. The letter, the chemotherapist, my father-in-law.
34:29
Speaker 2: You know, I just said, I don't know what I'm doing.
34:34
Speaker 2: I'm going. And I went. And together, we went down there.
34:38
Speaker 2: First day, we go to a health food store. If
34:41
Speaker 2: they had health food stores in Detroit, I never saw one.
34:46
Speaker 2: And if they had one, I wouldn't have gone in.
34:49
Speaker 2: I go in there and it's hug tree heavens. All
34:54
Speaker 2: the women are walking around in wrinkled granny dresses, and
34:59
Speaker 2: I'm the only one there wearing underwear. I mean, this
35:02
Speaker 2: place is stone ground.
35:06
Speaker 3: And I looked around. What's in the health store in Tijuana, Mexico?
35:10
Speaker 3: What's in there?
35:11
Speaker 2: No, no, this was San Diego.
35:12
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Oh, you're in San Diego. Okay.
35:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm still in San Diego. And I didn't recognize
35:19
Speaker 2: most of the food in there. I'd never eaten an
35:22
Speaker 2: avocado before. And they were serving little tastes of it.
35:25
Speaker 2: And it looked like diaper stuff. I mean, it was horrible.
35:30
Speaker 2: And these soups that just smelled like herbs and all
35:34
Speaker 2: this stuff. And I looked at my father-in-law and I went,
35:37
Speaker 2: I want to go for a burger when this is over.
35:40
Speaker 4: And I.
35:42
Speaker 2: Just said, but here's the lesson. I didn't blend. And
35:48
Speaker 2: your listeners don't have to either. I didn't have to believe.
35:54
Speaker 2: I mean, you hear these guys in the seminar, unless
35:57
Speaker 2: you believe. Nope. You really think I thought a little
36:03
Speaker 2: corner clinic in TJ was going to do as well
36:06
Speaker 2: as a Mayo Clinic to help me? I wasn't sure.
36:11
Speaker 2: My wife gets on the plane to say goodbye. Do
36:13
Speaker 2: that back then. I'm crying. She's crying. And I said
36:17
Speaker 2: to her, sweetie, I think it's a one-way ticket. So
36:22
Speaker 2: the next day we go to the clinic and I
36:24
Speaker 2: meet the doctor. He says, I only have one question.
36:29
Speaker 2: Are you willing to do what we ask you to do?
36:31
Speaker 2: And I'm thinking, oh, I don't know you from Adam, doc.
36:37
Speaker 2: I don't know what you do here. He says, well,
36:39
Speaker 2: I'm a real MD. I actually worked at Children's Hospital
36:43
Speaker 2: in Boston. And he said, but I own the clinic
36:46
Speaker 2: that you're in now. And I'm telling you, this stuff
36:50
Speaker 2: is amazing to me. But you have to help. Are
36:55
Speaker 2: you going to change your diet? Are you going to
36:57
Speaker 2: do the healthy things we ask you to do? And
37:02
Speaker 2: are you going to do them for the rest of
37:04
Speaker 2: your life? I'm going to miss beer.
37:11
Speaker 3: We're going to continue on with this conversation here in
37:14
Speaker 3: just a minute. We're up against a break, Rick. You're
37:16
Speaker 3: listening to Rick Hill. He survived cancer, and you're hearing
37:20
Speaker 3: how he did it. We're going to go with him
37:22
Speaker 3: to Tijuana, Mexico, and continue this conversation that started back
37:27
Speaker 3: in 1974 for Rick Hill. You're going to hear about
37:30
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37:33
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37:36
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37:38
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37:41
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38:49
Speaker 3: I'm Booker Scott. Thank you for joining us tonight. We
38:52
Speaker 3: are visiting with Rick Hill. He's telling the story about
38:55
Speaker 3: going to Tijuana, Mexico in 1974. He was down to
38:59
Speaker 3: 120 pounds, stage 3 cancer. He leaves the Mayo Clinic. Rick,
39:04
Speaker 3: I think we're caught up. Let's keep going with your story.
39:08
Speaker 2: All right, from here, it moves pretty fast because we're
39:10
Speaker 2: in act two. In act two, the doctor says, I mean,
39:16
Speaker 2: here's why people don't think it works. It is so simple.
39:22
Speaker 2: It's not complex. First of all, they start giving me
39:27
Speaker 2: these pro-enzymes. Now, what are enzymes? They're designed to digest
39:32
Speaker 2: protein among other things. You take them with meals, they'll
39:36
Speaker 2: digest the protein you had with your meal, like a steak.
39:39
Speaker 2: If you take them between meals, like I do at
39:42
Speaker 2: 10 o'clock and two o'clock, because I'm an old guy,
39:46
Speaker 2: that's how we take our meds. They digest the protein
39:52
Speaker 2: that may be covering cancer cells. That's how they hide. Now,
39:57
Speaker 2: this isn't my idea. This was the 1920s. A doctor
40:01
Speaker 2: named John Beard. By the way, for your listeners, I'll
40:05
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40:09
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40:11
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40:13
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40:24
Speaker 2: Griffin's scholarly treatise on what is Laetrile, what is vitamin B17,
40:31
Speaker 2: and why did our government shut it down? I can't
40:36
Speaker 2: think of a question you can come up with that
40:38
Speaker 2: isn't covered in that really good book, and it's yours
40:42
Speaker 2: for free, a PDF copy, electronic, and it's 300 pages,
40:46
Speaker 2: all right? So they start giving me lots of these enzymes.
40:52
Speaker 2: By the way, you had a lot of them when
40:55
Speaker 2: you were about two months old. Yeah, that's right. You
40:58
Speaker 2: had trophoblast cells in your body and your mother's pancreas
41:03
Speaker 2: kicks out this stuff called chymotrypsin to protect you and
41:09
Speaker 2: your mom. And it takes the protein off so your
41:13
Speaker 2: immune system, the mother's immune system, can see what's going on.
41:18
Speaker 2: and protect. Well, at 24 years old, where's my mom?
41:23
Speaker 2: Where's my umbilical cord? I don't have it. So I
41:27
Speaker 2: took my umbilical cord, those enzymes, at the clinic. Secondly,
41:33
Speaker 2: there's a backup plan, and it's called B17. You can
41:36
Speaker 2: get it in the pills, and I didn't start taking
41:38
Speaker 2: these for almost a year afterwards. But this, an ampule, laetrile, amygdalin,
41:46
Speaker 2: they just put the needle in there, And then Monday
41:49
Speaker 2: to Thursday, they gave me three grams right here. And
41:54
Speaker 2: then on Friday they gave me six grams and amount,
41:57
Speaker 2: which our government says will kill any adult.
42:02
Speaker 3: So the American government, the American government says that. Yeah.
42:07
Speaker 2: Yeah. The Mexican government thought, well, it's, you know, it's
42:09
Speaker 2: working for these guys. Let's leave them alone.
42:12
Speaker 3: Well, you mentioned earlier, you mentioned earlier that the doctor,
42:15
Speaker 3: said there are some clinics in America back in 1974.
42:19
Speaker 3: You didn't know exactly where those were. Are there clinics
42:22
Speaker 3: now here in America that are doing holistic healing like
42:26
Speaker 3: this for cancer?
42:28
Speaker 2: There really are. In fact, if somebody wanted to get
42:31
Speaker 2: a hold of me, remember, I don't practice medicine. I
42:35
Speaker 2: will never tell your listeners what to do. I will
42:40
Speaker 2: tell them what I did. If they think that's a
42:43
Speaker 2: good idea, I can tell them to get the stuff,
42:46
Speaker 2: where to get the stuff I had. And then if
42:49
Speaker 2: they're in stage three and four, my recommendation is they
42:53
Speaker 2: find a holistic, licensed medical doctor to help. And that's important.
43:01
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not crazy, although my family thinks I was.
43:07
Speaker 3: Well, Rick, you said that back then that the American
43:11
Speaker 3: government the amount that you were using that they were
43:14
Speaker 3: giving you in Tijuana, the American government wouldn't allow that.
43:18
Speaker 3: Does the American government allow that now?
43:21
Speaker 1: They do.
43:22
Speaker 3: Okay.
43:23
Speaker 2: They do, and I'll tell you how. We got smarter.
43:27
Speaker 2: They kind of forgot about it because they drove us
43:29
Speaker 2: so deep underground that we stayed underground. But the guy
43:35
Speaker 2: I work for is named John Richardson. His father was
43:38
Speaker 2: an M.D., and he wrote Laetro Case Histories. 60-some, 62
43:45
Speaker 2: case histories about people who were stage four, did exactly
43:51
Speaker 2: what I did, and got their health back. Well, once
43:55
Speaker 2: that book was published, they came blaring into his offices,
43:59
Speaker 2: guns drawn, arrested him, arrested his nurse, put them both
44:04
Speaker 2: in the hooscow, and took away his medical license for
44:09
Speaker 2: a food product. Why? Because it really worked well. And
44:15
Speaker 2: chemo doesn't work that well.
44:17
Speaker 3: Pharmaceutical companies don't like that, do they?
44:21
Speaker 2: Ah, they've got a really bad attitude about losing money.
44:24
Speaker 3: We've got that going on right now in Washington, D.C., too,
44:27
Speaker 3: with RFK Jr. and the CDC, FDA.
44:31
Speaker 2: Did you see the hearing a couple of days ago?
44:35
Speaker 2: Holy cow! They did everything but beat him over the
44:39
Speaker 2: head with a chair.
44:41
Speaker 3: All those politicians are getting paid, obviously, from the pharmaceutical companies.
44:46
Speaker 2: Big money. Yeah, he told Pocahontas how much she didn't
44:52
Speaker 2: like that much. So it's just three products. And then
44:57
Speaker 2: they gave me a diet sheet. Then the nurse comes
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Speaker 2: in the next day and goes, today, we are going
45:03
Speaker 2: to start your detox. I said, good. What's a detox?
45:10
Speaker 2: And she's carrying this bag with a hose. And she says, well,
45:17
Speaker 2: did you ever change the water in the radiator of
45:19
Speaker 2: your car? And I said, oh, yeah. I got a
45:21
Speaker 2: 57 Ford, slick tires, first floor shift, handling it. She goes, good.
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Speaker 2: And I said, good? Where does that hose go? I
45:34
Speaker 2: learned what a colonic is. Now, before you throw something
45:38
Speaker 2: at me, Elvis, when he died, they said he had
45:42
Speaker 2: over 50 pounds of undigested matter in his large coat,
45:49
Speaker 2: 50 pounds. And they told me, we want you so
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Speaker 2: clean that you squeak when you walk. Get that poison
45:59
Speaker 2: out of you, get good nutritious food into you and
46:03
Speaker 2: give your immune system the ability to see cancer cells
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Speaker 2: and fight cancer cells. That's the program. We sell it
46:14
Speaker 2: at rncstore.com as an adjunct, like high-dose vitamin C, like
46:21
Speaker 2: Myers cocktails for hangovers. In other words, it's a food
46:26
Speaker 2: product just to get you buffed up. And that's how
46:31
Speaker 2: we market it. We don't say that we're doing, now
46:34
Speaker 2: it helped me, But I never told anybody, I'll guarantee
46:38
Speaker 2: you this will work. I've never said those things. So
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Speaker 2: simple program, low cost, government irritated. Just recently, we've come
46:50
Speaker 2: out of the groundwork to help.
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Speaker 3: Well, Rick, let's go back to you real quick. Let's
46:56
Speaker 3: go to Tijuana. I interrupted you when you were going
46:59
Speaker 3: to get cleaned out. So that was another part of
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Speaker 3: the treatment. From there, what happened? I guess diet came
47:06
Speaker 3: into it as well.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. And the diet is real simple too. 80% raw
47:11
Speaker 2: and uncooked fruits and vegetables. You can have some meat
47:17
Speaker 2: as long as it's broiled and organic and you only
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Speaker 2: eat about four ounces of it. Not because meat was
47:24
Speaker 2: cursed by the devil, but because meat is high protein
47:28
Speaker 2: and you've got a plan for the protein in your body.
47:32
Speaker 2: I did, I should say. That is, you want it gone.
47:36
Speaker 2: So your immune system, T cells, killer cells, macrophages, they
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Speaker 2: can see the cancer then and they go after it.
47:44
Speaker 2: Cancer cells want to survive just like every other cell
47:48
Speaker 2: in your body. It's part of the human process. So
47:54
Speaker 2: I'm eating these squishy meals. I'm taking the colonics every
47:58
Speaker 2: few days. I'm hoping no one finds out. not in Detroit.
48:04
Speaker 2: We beat people up for that kind of thing. I'm
48:08
Speaker 2: doing it. Yeah. So that basically is, I mean, I
48:14
Speaker 2: don't want to cut you short and pretend that it
48:17
Speaker 2: was simple when it wasn't, but that was it. I
48:21
Speaker 2: was there three weeks.
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Speaker 3: So you were in three weeks, you were healed. You
48:27
Speaker 3: go back home to Detroit. Do you go back to
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Speaker 3: the Mayo clinic at that point?
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Speaker 2: I did, but let me clear something up. I don't
48:35
Speaker 2: think I was healed. That's why today you heard my
48:39
Speaker 2: alarm go off and I apologize. But my alarm was
48:43
Speaker 2: to remind me that at four o'clock, I'm taking some
48:46
Speaker 2: of these enzymes because I think these cancer cells are probably,
48:52
Speaker 2: or the name for them, are probably in everybody. And
48:59
Speaker 2: it depends on outside forces whether they get irritated enough
49:04
Speaker 2: to shut the immune system down. When that happens, now
49:08
Speaker 2: they grow like crazy. And we need help. We got
49:12
Speaker 2: to take, we're not an umbilical cord recipient at that point.
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Speaker 3: So when you go back to the doctor, do they...
49:19
Speaker 3: I guess they run tests, they would have to. Are
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Speaker 3: you cancer free at that point? Or is there a
49:26
Speaker 3: longer period of time before you become cancer free? Or
49:29
Speaker 3: did you become cancer free? I guess that's a bunch
49:31
Speaker 3: of questions there.
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Speaker 2: Well, I had an oncologist measure my tumor markers, cancer markers.
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Speaker 2: And at one point, they pronounced me in remission, which
49:46
Speaker 2: incidentally is the most dangerous time in the life of
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Speaker 2: a cancer patient.
49:52
Speaker 3: Why is that?
49:52
Speaker 2: Because usually they go, well, I dodged that bullet. Good
49:57
Speaker 2: to go, man. And they go back to the Diet
50:00
Speaker 2: Coke and the burgers and the fried foods and the
50:05
Speaker 2: long hours with no sleep, all of the above. And
50:10
Speaker 2: then six months to nine months later, you see him
50:14
Speaker 2: on Facebook going, you got to pray for me. It's back.
50:18
Speaker 2: My liver's full of cancer. It's spreading to my spine.
50:21
Speaker 2: I don't know what to do. Yeah. That never happened
50:25
Speaker 2: to me because I was either didn't want to see Jesus,
50:31
Speaker 2: wasn't in a hurry, or it's not that big. It's
50:36
Speaker 2: not expensive. It's not that big a deal. For me
50:39
Speaker 2: to set my alarm and take some of these pills
50:41
Speaker 2: during the day, it's no big deal. So I did
50:45
Speaker 2: go back to the Mayo Clinic to answer your point
50:48
Speaker 2: blank question. Made an appointment about a year after I'd
50:52
Speaker 2: been to Tijuana. Came, I'm shortening this, but I came
50:56
Speaker 2: through the door and he went. And he held his
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Speaker 2: hand up to stop. And so I stopped. I was
51:04
Speaker 2: walking toward his desk. And he said, I want you
51:07
Speaker 2: to know before we start this conversation that nothing you
51:11
Speaker 2: did in Tijuana could have had anything to do with
51:16
Speaker 2: this apparent recovery that you've had.
51:20
Speaker 3: What was it? Was it Jesus? Is that what he
51:22
Speaker 3: was thinking? Was it a miracle?
51:24
Speaker 2: I asked him because any normal person would go, what
51:28
Speaker 2: the heck? I said, so what do you think happened
51:33
Speaker 2: to me, Doc? I don't look like I did when
51:35
Speaker 2: I was here. Do I? He said, no, no, you
51:38
Speaker 2: sure don't. He said, you had what we call a
51:42
Speaker 2: natural remission. In other words, without provocation, not from us,
51:49
Speaker 2: not from them, your cancer decided to leave your body.
51:53
Speaker 3: The doctor was not willing to hear anything that you
51:56
Speaker 3: had done in Tijuana. He didn't want to hear about it.
51:59
Speaker 3: There had to be another explanation. It couldn't be the
52:01
Speaker 3: things that you did.
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Speaker 2: So I said, well, how come I didn't naturally remit
52:07
Speaker 2: when I was in Tijuana? I was in Rochester longer
52:11
Speaker 2: than I was in Tijuana. And I just got worse
52:15
Speaker 2: and worse and worse here. You said that yourself. And
52:19
Speaker 2: there I got better and better and better. Now, you
52:23
Speaker 2: don't see the correlation. He said, it's absolutely not possible.
52:32
Speaker 2: I said, well, I know it. I know something about you, Doc.
52:36
Speaker 2: You look like a bright guy, but looks can be deceiving.
52:40
Speaker 2: Because if you were a real healer, you know what
52:43
Speaker 2: you'd say? I don't know. But sit down and tell
52:47
Speaker 2: me what the heck you did. I'll take notes and
52:50
Speaker 2: then I'll do some research because something happened to you.
52:57
Speaker 2: And I said, well, I'm not going to stick around
52:59
Speaker 2: for that. I walked out the door because he wasn't interested.
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Speaker 3: Just like you did earlier in 1974.
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Speaker 2: That's exactly it. And today, we are no further ahead. None.
53:14
Speaker 2: We still use the same chemos, 5-FU, different kinds. 5-FU
53:20
Speaker 2: is partially owned by the American Cancer Society. You think
53:25
Speaker 2: our senators are the only people taking the piece of
53:29
Speaker 2: the pie?
53:29
Speaker 3: Oh, no. Of course not. It's a huge... It is
53:32
Speaker 3: a huge financial windfall for hospitals, for doctors. There's a
53:38
Speaker 3: huge market there for cancer treatment.
53:42
Speaker 2: Billions. Or as our from Vermont would say, billions.
53:50
Speaker 3: Rick, thank you so much for joining us. Give us
53:52
Speaker 3: the website again. The name of his book is Too
53:55
Speaker 3: Young to Die. And give us that Richardson Nutritional Center
53:59
Speaker 3: website one more time before you leave.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, sir. rncstore.com.
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Speaker 3: And that big book is there as well?
54:10
Speaker 2: That's there, but not for free. If they want to
54:13
Speaker 2: order it online at myworldwithoutcancer.com, we'll send them the PDF,
54:19
Speaker 2: electronic form.
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Speaker 3: Got it, got it.
54:21
Speaker 2: If they want the paper book, that one they got
54:24
Speaker 2: to pay about $ 35 for.
54:27
Speaker 3: Well, Rick, thank you for coming on the program. We're
54:29
Speaker 3: glad you're here 50-plus years later. Congratulations to that. Thank
54:34
Speaker 3: you for telling your story. It's an incredible story. Thank
54:37
Speaker 3: you for being on the program tonight.
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Speaker 2: You're welcome, and thank you for having me, sir.
54:42
Speaker 3: And thank you for joining us here tonight and every night.
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Speaker 3: Don't forget, never forget, never let it happen again at 9-11.
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Speaker 3: Have a great weekend. I'm Booker Scott, and you were
54:53
Speaker 3: told 2,000 years ago that you are the salt of
54:55
Speaker 3: the earth. And salt without flavor, it has no value.
54:58
Speaker 3: So whatever you do, keep being salty. Have a great night.
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