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- 0:00Welcome back to Reformed Thinking.
- 0:01This is the deep dive. And today you've sent us a real
- 0:05classic, an excerpt from CS Lewis that gets right to the
- 0:08heart of the matter. We're looking at Mere
- 0:10Christianity, specifically the chapter called The Perfect
- 0:13Penitent, and it's just, well, it's classic Louis.
- 0:16It's this incredibly clear, logical case for why Christ had
- 0:20to be both God and man. And our mission for this deep
- 0:24dive is really twofold. 1st we want to unpack how Lewis
- 0:27separates the central Christian fact, the Atonement, from all
- 0:31the theological theories that try to explain it.
- 0:33Right. And 2nd, we want to follow his
- 0:35line of reasoning step by step to show why the incarnation
- 0:39wasn't just, you know, a miracle, but a logical
- 0:42necessity. It was the only way for perfect
- 0:45human repentance to happen. It's such a helpful piece of
- 0:47writing because it cuts through so much of the the
- 0:50denominational arguments about the details.
- 0:52It does. Louis just sidesteps all that.
- 0:53He's not interested in the technical terms as much as he is
- 0:56in the function of what Christ did.
- 0:58He wants you to see the absolute need for the God man.
- 1:01OK, so let's start where Lewis always tells us to start, which
- 1:04is with the identity of Jesus Christ.
- 1:07You can't really talk about what he did without first figuring
- 1:10out who he is. Exactly.
- 1:12He just clears the table of all the comfortable, easy options.
- 1:15Right away. He gives you this stark choice
- 1:17about Jesus of Nazareth. Which is that this man went
- 1:19around making claims that are, well, they're staggering.
- 1:23He didn't just say he was a prophet, he claimed to be God.
- 1:27The one true God, the creator of everything.
- 1:29And Lewis says, OK, if you hear that claim, you can't just brush
- 1:33it aside. You have to take it seriously.
- 1:34Yeah, you can't just say, oh, he's a great moral teacher, but
- 1:37a bit confused on that one point.
- 1:39No, that's the one position Lewis says is totally illogical
- 1:42because a claim to be God is so massive.
- 1:44It's either the absolute truth or it's a sign of a profound
- 1:48problem. So he lays out the options.
- 1:50He's either what he said he was God, or he's a lunatic.
- 1:55A complete lunatic on the level of a man who thinks he's a
- 1:58poached egg. Or, and this is the third
- 2:01option, he's something far worse.
- 2:03A fiend. A fiend, A demon, someone who is
- 2:07deliberately and maliciously deceiving everyone, using these
- 2:10beautiful moral teachings as a cover for the most monstrous lie
- 2:14in history. And the reason he forces that
- 2:16choice is to show that the good moral teacher idea just doesn't
- 2:20hold up to scrutiny. A great moral teacher has to be,
- 2:24at a minimum, sane and honest. And claiming to be God if you
- 2:28aren't disqualifies you on both counts immediately.
- 2:31It's either insane or dishonest. There's no middle ground.
- 2:34So Lewis looks at the evidence, the life you live, the
- 2:37teachings, the impact he had, and he concludes that the only
- 2:40option left standing is the one Jesus himself claimed.
- 2:43That he was and is God. And once you accept that, the
- 2:46whole story changes. Lewis uses this amazing analogy.
- 2:49He says it's like God has landed on this enemy.
- 2:52Occupy world in human form. That phrase enemy occupied world
- 2:56is so important if frames the entire situation.
- 2:59The world isn't just a bit broken or in need of some
- 3:01pointers, it's held captive. We're behind enemy lines and
- 3:04that means his arrival isn't a diplomatic visit.
- 3:07No, it's a rescue mission. It's an invasion.
- 3:09It sets the stage for a conflict, not just a series of
- 3:12lectures. So if we've established who he
- 3:15is, the commander in chief landing on occupied soil, the
- 3:19next question is obvious. What did he come here to do?
- 3:22Right. And the first answer that comes
- 3:24to mind for most people, the sort of surface level answer, is
- 3:27that he came to teach. To give us a better moral code,
- 3:30Fix our ethics. Show us how to be good people.
- 3:32And he certainly did that. The Sermon on the Mount is
- 3:35there, but Lewis makes this crucial observation.
- 3:38If you actually read what the first Christians wrote, Paul's
- 3:41letters, the book of Acts, all the foundational stuff, they
- 3:44barely talk about the teachings in comparison to one other
- 3:47thing. His death and resurrection.
- 3:48His death and coming to life again, that's the obsessive
- 3:51focus. It's the central point of every
- 3:54sermon, every letter. The thing that changed
- 3:56everything wasn't a new philosophy.
- 3:58It was an event. That is such a key distinction.
- 4:02They didn't see him as a new Plato or Socrates whose ideas
- 4:06you follow. They saw him as a rescuer who
- 4:09performed an action. And Lewis concludes from this
- 4:12that Christians believe the main thing, the chief point of the
- 4:15whole mission, was for him to suffer and be killed.
- 4:19The teaching was the context, the preparation, but the ACT
- 4:22itself was the mission. Yes.
- 4:24It shifts the center of gravity of the faith away from just
- 4:28being a moral system to being a response to a historical event
- 4:32that Christ accomplished. And that gets us right into the
- 4:34next part of his argument, which for me is maybe the most
- 4:38liberating part of the whole chapter.
- 4:39Oh, absolutely. This is where he draws that
- 4:41razor sharp line between the core Christian belief and all
- 4:45the theories people have built around it.
- 4:47He basically gives you permission to not be a
- 4:49theologian. He talks about his own
- 4:51experience before he was a Christian, thinking he had to
- 4:54believe this one specific kind of clunky theory.
- 4:57The one you hear all the time. God is angry and wants to punish
- 5:00just for our sins, but Jesus steps in and says punish me
- 5:03instead. And God says, OK, you're all off
- 5:05the hook. Right.
- 5:06And when you put it that baldly, it can sound a bit, well, silly,
- 5:10or even immoral. Why would a good God need to
- 5:13punish anyone if he can just forgive?
- 5:16And Lewis admits that. He says it sounded a bit crude
- 5:19to him at first, too. But then he makes this
- 5:21incredibly important move. He says that theory is not
- 5:26Christianity itself. That's the key.
- 5:29That is just one attempt to explain it.
- 5:31It's a picture. The actual central belief, the
- 5:34thing that all Christians everywhere agree on, is much
- 5:38simpler. It's just that Christ's death
- 5:40has somehow put us right with God and given us a fresh start.
- 5:44That's the fact. That's the fact that the
- 5:46mechanics of it, that's where the theories come in.
- 5:49And Louis says those are secondary.
- 5:51Christians are united by the belief that it works, not by a
- 5:54single explanation of how it works.
- 5:56Which is so helpful because people have been trying to
- 5:59explain it for 2000 years with different models.
- 6:02Ransom satisfaction substitution.
- 6:04All of them trying to get at this central reality.
- 6:07And Louis gives this brilliant analogy to make the distinction
- 6:09clear. The meal analogy.
- 6:12Yeah, this one is perfect. Anyone can understand this?
- 6:14Right. If you're tired and hungry, you
- 6:16know that eating a meal will do you good.
- 6:18That's the reality. You eat, you feel better.
- 6:20You don't need to know anything else.
- 6:22You don't. But then there's the modern
- 6:24theory of nourishment, the science of vitamins, proteins,
- 6:27carbs, metabolic pathways. All the biochemistry.
- 6:30Exactly, and people ate dinner and got strong for thousands of
- 6:34years before anyone had ever heard of a vitamin.
- 6:37And if tomorrow scientists announced that the whole vitamin
- 6:40theory is wrong and they replace it with something new?
- 6:43You're still going to eat your dinner because the reality of
- 6:46nourishment doesn't depend on the theory that explains it.
- 6:48So the atonement is the meal. The atonement is the meal.
- 6:52It's the real event that puts you right with God.
- 6:55The theological theories are the vitamin science.
- 6:58They can be helpful, but you don't need to be a nutritionist
- 7:01to be fed. He mentions his own church.
- 7:04The Church of England doesn't even require you to believe one
- 7:07specific theory. It's the event that's infinitely
- 7:10more significant. And he double s down with
- 7:12another, more abstract analogy, the one about the formula and
- 7:15the mental picture which he gets from the scientists of his day.
- 7:19Right, like trying to explain an atom.
- 7:21Yeah, a scientist might show you that little picture of it.
- 7:24You know the solar system model with electrons orbiting a
- 7:26nucleus, But they'll immediately tell you no, don't think that's
- 7:30what an atom actually looks like.
- 7:31The picture is just a helpful crutch for our imagination.
- 7:34The reality is the mathematical formula, the complex equations
- 7:38that describe its behavior, that's what the scientist
- 7:40actually believes. The picture is just an aid.
- 7:43If it doesn't help you, you're told to drop it.
- 7:45And he applies that directly to the death of Christ.
- 7:48He says it's this point in history where something
- 7:51absolutely unimaginable from the outside breaks through into our
- 7:54world. Think about that.
- 7:55We can't even properly picture an atom, which is a thing inside
- 7:59our universe. How on earth could we expect to
- 8:02have a perfect mental picture of an event where the eternal,
- 8:06uncreated God intersects with time and space?
- 8:10It's possible it's beyond us. And this is the paradox, he
- 8:13points out, if we could fully understand it, if it fit neatly
- 8:16into our little mental boxes. Then that would be proof that it
- 8:19wasn't what it claimed to be. Exactly.
- 8:21If it were totally comprehensible, it wouldn't be
- 8:24this incredible transcendent thing from beyond nature
- 8:27striking down into it like lightning.
- 8:29It would just be another human level transaction.
- 8:31So the formula, the thing we have to believe, is simple.
- 8:35It is. Christ was killed for us.
- 8:37His death washed out our sins, and by dying he disabled death
- 8:41itself. That's the core claim.
- 8:43Everything else is a picture, and you're free to use the
- 8:47picture that helps you most, but never ever mistake it for the
- 8:50real thing. You could accept the meal
- 8:52without knowing the science. And he even suggests that you
- 8:55probably can't know how it works until after you've accepted it.
- 8:57It's an experience you enter into first and understanding
- 9:00follows. OK, so he's established the
- 9:02atonement as this central historical fact.
- 9:05Now he has to go back and explain why it was necessary in
- 9:08the 1st. Place Yes, he circles back to
- 9:10that common theory of punishment and substitution, but he
- 9:13completely reframes it by first defining man's actual problem.
- 9:16Let's start with that objection again.
- 9:17If God is forgiving, why not just forgive?
- 9:21Why the need for a payment or a punishment at all?
- 9:24It seems so arbitrary. It does if you're thinking of it
- 9:27like a traffic court where a judge has the discretion to just
- 9:31waive the fine, Lewis says. That's the wrong analogy.
- 9:34We need a better picture. Me too, and he offers a couple
- 9:37first. Think of it not as a criminal
- 9:39fine, but as a financial debt. If someone is bankrupt
- 9:43completely in the red, it makes perfect sense for a wealthy
- 9:46friend to step in and pay the entire debt for them.
- 9:48That's a substitution that we understand.
- 9:50It's an act of grace. Or his other phrase, standing
- 9:53the racket or footing the bill. Right.
- 9:55We all know this from real life. When someone gets into a
- 9:58terrible mess, a deep hole, the work and the cost and the
- 10:02trouble of getting them out usually falls on a kind friend
- 10:04or family member. The cost is real and someone has
- 10:08to bear it. So to understand the cost Christ
- 10:10paid, we have to understand the hole that mankind is in.
- 10:14And Lewis is very clear, this is not just about us being
- 10:17imperfect creatures who need a bit of improvement.
- 10:19No, his diagnosis is much more severe, and it's very much in
- 10:23line with a reformed view. The problem isn't bad behavior,
- 10:27the problem is rebellion. We've tried to set up on our
- 10:30own. To behave as if he belonged to
- 10:31himself. That's the line.
- 10:34We are created beings who have declared independence from our
- 10:37Creator. It's an act of cosmic treason.
- 10:40And if the problem is rebellion, the only way back is an
- 10:43improvement. It's.
- 10:44Surrender. Laying down your arms.
- 10:46That's the only way you have to admit you've been on the
- 10:48completely wrong track. Say you're sorry and get ready
- 10:51to start over from scratch. This whole process is what we
- 10:54call repentance, and Lewis is brutally honest about how hard
- 10:57it. Is he says it's no fun at all.
- 10:59It's not just about saying sorry and feeling a bit bad for a
- 11:02while. It's way more than being humble
- 11:04pie. It's a fundamental rewiring of
- 11:07your entire being. It means unlearning all the self
- 11:10conceit and the self will that we've been practicing our whole
- 11:13lives, that our species has been practicing for thousands of
- 11:16years. It means, in his words, killing
- 11:19part of yourself. A kind of death.
- 11:22And this description, this reality of what repentance truly
- 11:25is, sets up what you call the devastating logical dilemma.
- 11:29The Catch 22 of the human condition.
- 11:30It's a perfect, inescapable trap.
- 11:32The dilemma is this, only a bad person needs to repent.
- 11:36But only a good person could possibly do it perfectly.
- 11:40Wow. Say that again.
- 11:41Think it through. The worse you are, the more
- 11:44steeped you are in self will and pride, the more desperately you
- 11:47need to repent. But that very self will and
- 11:50pride is what makes a perfect selfless surrender impossible
- 11:54for you. So the more you need it, the
- 11:55less you're able to do it. Exactly the only one who could
- 11:58perform that act of perfect surrender, A submission with
- 12:02absolutely no ulterior motives, no shred of pride left, would
- 12:07have to be a perfect person. Someone who had no self conceit
- 12:10to begin with. Right.
- 12:12And of course, a perfect person wouldn't need to repent in the
- 12:14first place. So we are completely stuck
- 12:17logically trapped human inability right there.
- 12:20In a nutshell, our best attempts at repentance are always going
- 12:23to be flawed, stained by the very sin we're trying to repent
- 12:27of. And Lewis is quick to point out
- 12:29that this isn't some arbitrary rule God made-up that he could
- 12:31just get rid of. Repentance isn't a hoopie He
- 12:34makes us jump through. He says it's simply a
- 12:37description of what going back to him is like.
- 12:39It is the act of returning. To ask God to take you back
- 12:43without repentance is to ask Him to welcome you back while you're
- 12:46still walking away. It's a contradiction in terms.
- 12:49It just cannot happen. So the cost, this death of the
- 12:53self has to be paid, and we've just established that we are
- 12:57fundamentally incapable of paying it perfectly.
- 13:00Which brings us to the only possible solution.
- 13:02Right, We're in this trap. So what do we do?
- 13:04We look for help. Can we do this impossible thing
- 13:07if God helps us? And Lewis says yes.
- 13:10But the kind of help we need is very, very specific.
- 13:13He starts by explaining how God's help normally works.
- 13:15Yeah, he says. When God helps us do something,
- 13:18he puts a bit of himself into us.
- 13:20When we think a rational thought, we're borrowing a tiny
- 13:23drop from God's ocean of reason. When we love someone, we're
- 13:26being lent a little of God's own love.
- 13:28He uses that beautiful image of a parent teaching a child to
- 13:31write. You're holding the child's hand,
- 13:34guiding it as it forms the letters.
- 13:35The child is forming the letters only because you, the teacher,
- 13:39are forming them through the child's hand.
- 13:41That's how grace ordinarily works.
- 13:43We do things because God is doing them in US and with us.
- 13:46And if we had never fallen, if we weren't rebels, this would
- 13:49be, as he says, plain sailing. God would just help us get
- 13:52better and better at being wise and loving and creative.
- 13:56But fallen man doesn't just need help being good.
- 13:59We need help doing something completely different.
- 14:02We need help to surrender, to suffer, to submit, to die to
- 14:07ourselves. And this is where Lewis finds
- 14:09the critical gap. A gap in God's own nature, as it
- 14:12were, he says. And this is a direct quote.
- 14:15Nothing in God's nature corresponds to this process at
- 14:18all. What does he mean by that?
- 14:20Well, God by definition is perfect, sovereign, and
- 14:23complete. He doesn't surrender.
- 14:24There's nothing higher to surrender to.
- 14:25He doesn't submit. He doesn't suffer, loss or die.
- 14:29Those are experiences of creatures, of beings who are not
- 14:31God. That makes sense.
- 14:32It's tied to the classical understanding of God as being
- 14:34impassable, that he doesn't suffer or change.
- 14:37Exactly. So Lewis puts it very simply,
- 14:39God can only share what he has. He has love so he can share
- 14:42love. He has reason.
- 14:44He can share reason. But this process of surrender,
- 14:47of submission, of dying, he doesn't have that in his own
- 14:51nature to share with us. So the one thing we desperately
- 14:54need God's help with is the one thing He, as God, cannot
- 14:58directly model for us or empower in us.
- 15:01That is the absolute core of the problem.
- 15:03We need a divine guide to lead us down a road that God Himself
- 15:07and His divine nature has never walked.
- 15:10The dilemma is complete. Perfect repentance is necessary,
- 15:13but we can't do it. God's help is needed, but the
- 15:16help required is for an act that is alien to God's nature.
- 15:20And this is where the incarnation stops being just a
- 15:22wonderful story and becomes the only logical key that fits the
- 15:25lock, Lewis says. All right, suppose God became a
- 15:28man. Suppose he takes on human
- 15:30nature, a nature that can suffer and submit and die, and joins it
- 15:34to his divine nature in one person.
- 15:36Suddenly the problem is solved. You have a being the God Man who
- 15:39is uniquely qualified to be the perfect penitent.
- 15:42He could do it because he was man.
- 15:44He had a human will to surrender, a human body to
- 15:46suffer in. And he could do it perfectly
- 15:48because he was God. The divine nature meant his
- 15:50human act of submission was flawless, untainted by any
- 15:54selfishness or pride. So our only hope hope of
- 15:57succeeding in this act of dying to self is if God does it in us.
- 16:02But God can only do that if he becomes one of us.
- 16:05It comes right back to the child writing analogy.
- 16:07Our successful attempts at repentance are just us sharing
- 16:10in God's perfect repentance. Our dying is a drop out of His
- 16:13dying. But we can't share in God's
- 16:15dying unless God dies. And God can't die except by
- 16:19becoming a man. The logic is a steel trap.
- 16:23The Incarnation is the absolute prerequisite for the Atonement.
- 16:27So that's the sense in which he pays our debt.
- 16:29It's not a simple, almost crude legal transaction in a heavenly
- 16:33courtroom. No, it's a deep structural
- 16:36cosmic necessity. He performed the one act
- 16:39necessary for reconciliation that we were incapable of
- 16:42performing, and he was the only one in existence who was capable
- 16:44of doing it. It's.
- 16:45Just an incredibly powerful and satisfying explanation.
- 16:48Because it's rude in the very nature of God and man, not just
- 16:51in, you know, a set of rules. It is, but Lewis knows that even
- 16:54after all this, there's one last objection that always seems to
- 16:57pop up. Ah.
- 16:58Yes, the unfair advantage argument.
- 16:59The one that says, well if Jesus was God then his suffering and
- 17:03death don't really count as much because it must have been so
- 17:06easy for him. People feel like his divinity
- 17:09somehow invalidates the sacrifice.
- 17:12Right. And Lewis just cut straight
- 17:14through that. He says that objection comes
- 17:16from a really deep misunderstanding of what was
- 17:18going on. He says the person making that
- 17:20complaint is actually understating the case.
- 17:23What do you mean? They're right that the perfect
- 17:25submission and suffering were easier for Jesus because he was
- 17:29God. But Lewis says they weren't just
- 17:32easier, they were possible only because he was God.
- 17:36The very thing they see as a disqualifier was actually the
- 17:40prerequisite. Exactly.
- 17:41Think back to the teacher and the child learning to write.
- 17:44The reason the teacher can help is because it's easy for them.
- 17:47They already have the strength and skill.
- 17:49Their advantage is what makes the help possible.
- 17:52If you insisted on being taught to write by another toddler who
- 17:56also couldn't write, you'd never learn.
- 17:58You'd both just be scribbling. The superiority of the helper is
- 18:01the whole point, and that leads him to his final, absolutely
- 18:04brilliant analogy. The Drowning Man.
- 18:06The drowning man, it's unforgettable, he says.
- 18:10Imagine you're in a raging river, being swept away, about
- 18:13to go under for the last time. You're.
- 18:15Completely helpless. And a man on the riverbank, with
- 18:18one foot planted firmly on solid ground, reaches out his hand to
- 18:23save you. Lewis says the last thing you
- 18:25should do is shout. No, it's not fair.
- 18:27You have an advantage. You're keeping 1 foot on the
- 18:29bank. That advantage, that's ability,
- 18:33that connection to something solid outside of the chaos
- 18:36that's destroying you, that is the only reason he can help you
- 18:40at all. If he jumped in the river with
- 18:42you without his footing on the bank, you'd both just drown.
- 18:45His strength, His otherness, is the very source of the salvation
- 18:48he's offering. The divine nature of Christ
- 18:51wasn't a cheat code that made the sacrifice easier.
- 18:53It was the solid ground that made the rescue of humanity
- 18:57possible. And he ends with that piercing
- 18:59question to what will you look for help if you will not look to
- 19:03that which is stronger than yourself?
- 19:05It just leaves you nowhere to go.
- 19:06If you reject the help because the helper is stronger than you,
- 19:09you've chosen to drown. And after building this entire
- 19:13airtight case, Lewis does something remarkable.
- 19:17He adds a final caution. He does with total humility.
- 19:20He reminds you that everything he has just laid out, this whole
- 19:23logical structure about the perfect penitent, is just his
- 19:26way of looking at it. He calls it only one more
- 19:28picture. He never lets go of that
- 19:30distinction between the formula and the picture.
- 19:32He's saying I've just built a very detailed picture for you, a
- 19:35map, but don't mistake it for the territory itself.
- 19:38And he says if this picture his explanation doesn't help you
- 19:42then you should just drop it. Which is just a sign of his
- 19:45confidence in the central reality.
- 19:47He knows His explanation isn't the thing itself.
- 19:50The reality of what Christ did is what matters, and it will
- 19:52always be bigger than any human attempt to fully explain it.
- 19:55So to recap this team dive, we started by locking in Christ's
- 19:59identity, then saw that crucial separation Lewis makes between
- 20:02the fact of the Atonement and the theories about it, and then
- 20:06we followed his logic to see why the Incarnation was an absolute
- 20:09necessity. We saw the human condition as a
- 20:11catch 22. We have to perform a perfect
- 20:14repentance that our very nature makes us incapable of.
- 20:18It's a problem that only a God man, the perfect penitent, could
- 20:22solve by performing that act of perfect surrender for us.
- 20:26And this framework Lewis gives you is just so valuable.
- 20:28It frees you from getting stuck defending one particular
- 20:31theological model. You can focus on the core
- 20:33formula. Christ died for our sins and
- 20:36defeated death. He gives you an intellectual
- 20:38scaffold to stand on. And that brings us to our final
- 20:41thought. Lewis insisted that the death of
- 20:43Christ is something that we can't fully get our heads
- 20:46around. If we could, it would mean it
- 20:48was smaller than it claims to be.
- 20:50So we'll leave you with this question to think about in your
- 20:53own life. How often do you accept a
- 20:54reality without fully understanding the mechanics
- 20:57behind it? Do you demand to understand the
- 20:59physics of digestion before you eat a meal?
- 21:01Or do you insist on grasping quantum mechanics before you
- 21:04enjoy the warmth of the sun? Lewis reminds us that the
- 21:07deepest truths often require our acceptance first, with our
- 21:10understanding following along behind.
- 21:12Thank you for joining us for this deep dive into CS Lewis.
- 21:16We'll see you next time on Reformed Thinking.