Latest / What's on Your Riste? A Watch Podcast / S01E19: F.P. Journe: The Watchmaker Who Couldn’t Stop
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- 0:00There's a workshop in Geneva's Old Town, small by industrial
- 0:03standard, a team of watchmakers, maybe 150 people across all of
- 0:08their operations. It's a boutique strategy that by
- 0:11design, limits how many watches they can sell a year, a wait
- 0:14list for like the most sought after pieces.
- 0:17They stretch years out. And in the middle of that, there
- 0:20is a man who's been making watches since he was 20 years
- 0:23old, not overseeing, not directing, making at the bench
- 0:26with his hands for 50 years. His name is Francois Paul Jorn,
- 0:31and he is, by the reckoning of nearly every serious collector,
- 0:35every serious journalist, he's the most important living
- 0:38watchmaker in the world. And this episode is about him.
- 0:41And it's been coming since episode 13.
- 0:44And I hope, I think I'm ready to deliver it in.
- 0:47The old brass glow you been the morning thin.
- 1:09Welcome back to What's on your We Stay.
- 1:10I'm Wachovsky, 18 episodes in. We've been around the world,
- 1:14Switzerland, Germany, the Netherlands, France, America,
- 1:17Japan, Britain. We've covered tool watches and
- 1:19philosophy and security in the bloodline of Renault and Papi.
- 1:23We've spent an entire episode on Reshef Resheppy, the watchmaker
- 1:27who trained with Jorn and absorbed his operational
- 1:30philosophy. And through all of it, his name
- 1:33has kind of been in the background.
- 1:35F Jorn So today, finally, we're here.
- 1:39This one matters. Segment one we're going to go to
- 1:42we're going to go from Marseille to Paris and really talk about
- 1:45the origin now. Franz AA was born in Marseille
- 1:49in 1957, and he was, by his own cheerful admission, not
- 1:54particularly an engaged student. And he's joked in interviews
- 1:59that he might have become a butcher if his cousin hadn't
- 2:02been the head of a watchmaking school in Marseille.
- 2:05Because after Jorn was expelled from school, his parents needed
- 2:09him to They need to put him somewhere, and his cousin's
- 2:13school was basically a convenient answer for them.
- 2:16And this is, as origin stories go, again, another remarkable
- 2:19one. What happened when he arrived at
- 2:22the watchmaking school there is something that really matters.
- 2:25He found that he was actually really good at this, really good
- 2:29at precision work, the mechanical thinking of it all,
- 2:33the he had an obsessive attention to tiny tolerances and
- 2:38tiny components. And something in in how his mind
- 2:42worked seemed to match watchmaking and what watchmaking
- 2:46was asking of people who made watches.
- 2:49And so he graduated from the Paris watchmaking school in
- 2:521976. And remember, this is someone
- 2:54that was actually expelled from school before and he had
- 2:57continued his education in the French capital.
- 3:00And then he did what most young talented watchmakers of his
- 3:04generation did. He went to school or to work in
- 3:07an established workshop. Specifically, he went to work
- 3:10for his uncle Michelle Jorn, who ran a clock and watch
- 3:14restoration atelier in Saint Germain de Prey.
- 3:18And that's, it's kind of this historic Paris neighborhood.
- 3:21So Michelle Jorn's workshop was not making new watches.
- 3:25It was kind of restoring the old ones.
- 3:27Antique clocks, important historical pocket watches,
- 3:30pieces, you know, by Brigade and Janvier and great watch and
- 3:35clock makers of like the 17th and 18th centuries.
- 3:38And so Francois Paul, he spent eight years there.
- 3:41He learned kind of the deepest history of the craft by handling
- 3:45its most important surviving objects.
- 3:48And he has said of those years, my 8 year period working with my
- 3:52uncle allowed me to discover the origins of watchmaking up to the
- 3:5619th century. And it really enabled me to meet
- 3:59many important collectors. And while he was there out, you
- 4:03know, outside business hours using his uncles workshop and
- 4:06tools, when the restoration clients had left, he started
- 4:10building something of his own. And he really became fascinated
- 4:13by the Turbion, specifically by the extraordinary Turbion pocket
- 4:17watches he encountered on the wrists and in the collections of
- 4:20clients who brought their pieces into Michelle's workshop.
- 4:23And he wanted one. And like many of these
- 4:26watchmakers, he, he could not afford 1, so he decided to build
- 4:301. And Jorn started sketching his
- 4:32first Turbion at roughly the age of about 20.
- 4:35And he also read George Daniels book, but he read the book The
- 4:39Art of Brigade, the same George Daniels that we spent time on.
- 4:44And other episodes And Daniel's account of Brigade's turbion
- 4:48mechanism kind of lit a fire in FP, and he worked on the turbion
- 4:53in his uncle's workshop in the evenings and on weekends, but
- 4:56alone and by hand for seven years.
- 4:59And in early 1983, the watch was finished.
- 5:02It was a pocket watch with a turbion and signed FP Jorn Paris
- 5:07on the dial. Every single component, the case
- 5:10in gold and silver, the movement, the hands, all made by
- 5:13Jorn's own hands. And he was 26 years old.
- 5:17In 1985, he set up his own workshop in Paris, making these
- 5:21bespoke complicated pocket watches for top collectors.
- 5:24And the watches that followed an astronomical chronometer
- 5:28planetarium clocks with, you know, various spectacular
- 5:33complications established his reputation among this small
- 5:37group of collectors who were really paying attention.
- 5:39And at age, you know, 22, he'd already been commissioned by
- 5:42this Parisian atelier to design this planetarium mechanism for
- 5:47aspirin in London. And the name again, you're going
- 5:49to recognize this from episode 12, the the same aspirin that,
- 5:53you know, where Stefan Forzy and Bart Grunfeld did time kind of
- 5:57early in their careers. And so by 1991, Jean had made
- 6:01his first Turbion watch. And it's the direct ancestor of
- 6:04what would eventually become his kind of debut production piece.
- 6:07A handful of these watches were sold to collectors who, who knew
- 6:12what they were looking at in the watch world, hadn't caught up
- 6:16yet with what Francois Paul Jordan was making.
- 6:19But boy, oh boy was it about to the segment 2.
- 6:21We're going to talk about Geneva 1999 and we're going to call
- 6:24this the debut. My subheader for this section
- 6:28was I had it is called the founding the subscription and
- 6:31then also the beginning of a legend.
- 6:33So in 1999, Francois Paul Jorn moved to Geneva, the again the
- 6:36watchmaking capital and at Basel world that year again the the
- 6:41industry's biggest annual trade show, he launched a brand under
- 6:44his own name. Now here comes, you know, we
- 6:47stay practicing his his his French.
- 6:49So FP Jorn and you're going to have this Latin afterwards.
- 6:53Now, as if it wasn't bad enough for me to pronounce French, and
- 6:57now I'm going to get into Latin as well.
- 6:58So infinite inventit ET ichi, it's INVENIT space ET space
- 7:06FECIT. And it basically in Latin means
- 7:09invented and made. Now the phrase is stamped on
- 7:13every movement Jorn produces. It's not marketing language,
- 7:17it's a factual description of his working method and a
- 7:20philosophical statement about what watchmaking means to him.
- 7:24Jorn designs his watches and he makes them.
- 7:27Not in a different building, not by another team.
- 7:30The watchmaker who imagines the mechanism is the same watcher
- 7:34watchmaker who's responsible for the workshop that produces it.
- 7:37So his debut, Torbian Sobran is it's it's offered by
- 7:43subscription, like subscription, right?
- 7:46Meaning that collectors commit to the purchase before the
- 7:49watches are made. 20 pieces. And then the movement features
- 7:54something that at the time, no wristwatch Turbion had ever
- 7:57incorporated a a Remitoir Egalite.
- 8:00And it's basically a constant force mechanism.
- 8:02So let me explain what that means, even though I can't
- 8:04pronounce it because it it matters for everything that's
- 8:07going to follow. It's so the mainspring, as it
- 8:10unwinds it, it delivers diminished torque to the
- 8:13movement, meaning that as the the mainspring, when you wind it
- 8:16all the way up, it has the most amount of torque.
- 8:18And then as that mainspring slowly unwinds and uncoils
- 8:22itself, it has progressively less torque.
- 8:25OK. And so this diminished torque on
- 8:28the movement is problematic. And so a gear train works to
- 8:31regulate this problem. And so an escapement is trying
- 8:35to compensate for this problem. But the variation there is real.
- 8:39And so a fully wound watch, for example, keep slightly different
- 8:42time typically than a watch that's wound, you know, halfway
- 8:46and 3/4 of the way and so on. And so watchmakers have known
- 8:50this problem for centuries. And so the Roman Soir he
- 8:54designed solves this. It's a small secondary spring.
- 8:58It's wound periodically by the mainspring.
- 9:01Now this delivers power to the escapement in these identical
- 9:05pulses, but it does it every second.
- 9:06And so the escapement actually never sees the varying torque of
- 9:11the mainspring. It only sees constant even force
- 9:14of the secondary spring. And so the result is that the
- 9:16escapement runs much more accurately.
- 9:19And it's that every state of winding, it's exactly the same.
- 9:23And so Jorn put a Roman Soir in his first production wristwatch.
- 9:27And no one had ever combined a tour beyond with a Roman Soir in
- 9:30a wristwatch before. And he did it in 1999.
- 9:33This was his debut. Like, hey, dudes, I'm just going
- 9:35to show up and and and show you this right.
- 9:38And so this is his subscription pieces.
- 9:41They they sold out and again collector's notice.
- 9:43And then something very unusual happened.
- 9:45The early FP Jorn watches as the the subscription, the Torvion,
- 9:49the subarine, the first Octa pieces.
- 9:51They were made with movements like in brass, like most
- 9:54watchmakers. And then Jorn made a decision
- 9:56that the entire history of watch modern watchmaking no other
- 10:00manufacturer at scale has replicated.
- 10:02He switched all of his movements to 18 karat rose gold.
- 10:05Like not just the visible bridges, like all of the plates,
- 10:09all of the bridges, every single gear, every component that could
- 10:13be made in gold is made in gold. Now movement components in 18
- 10:16karat gold in in production watches is not like a it's it's
- 10:21not like a one off like but but why gold has different
- 10:25mechanical properties than brass.
- 10:27It is more stable against temperature fluctuations.
- 10:30It doesn't corrode. It is, on the other hand,
- 10:33softer, which actually can improve behavior of certain fine
- 10:36components. And this is the part that makes
- 10:38kind of watchmakers genuinely sort of pause.
- 10:40It is kind of beautiful in a way that brass simply is not.
- 10:44And Jorn, you know, a Jorn movement under a case back looks
- 10:48completely different in this sort of material sense from any
- 10:52other production watch in the industry.
- 10:54And again, no one else does this at any price and the cost alone
- 10:58again is prohibitive for most brands.
- 10:59Jorn decided that it's this is a non negotiable whatever the the
- 11:03price of gold is at the time, right?
- 11:04People know that gold prices and precious metals prices have kind
- 11:08of gone crazy in the last last five years or so.
- 11:10That decision made in like the mid 2000s is a definitive
- 11:14statement of his values as anything else that he's ever
- 11:19done or said before. It's saying that there there are
- 11:22no compromises here. OK, now we're going to get into
- 11:25the resonance. This is a mechanism that kind of
- 11:27defines him. And I think it's kind of the
- 11:29most important watch in the Jorn catalog for understanding this
- 11:32person, kind of a technical, but not necessarily, you know, the
- 11:37human component of it. So we're going to get into this
- 11:39as well. OK, so now the watch that in my
- 11:41view most completely captures FP Jorn is is a what they're about
- 11:46is not the Torbian, it's the Chronomet Resonance is launched
- 11:51in 2000 and still the most technically singular watch in
- 11:57regular production anywhere in the world and makes kind of
- 11:59explain what I'm going to talk about here.
- 12:01So the resonance uses this phenomenon observed by the Dutch
- 12:04mathematician Christian Hygens. And that was in like 1665.
- 12:09A Hygens noticed that two pendulum clocks hung on the wall
- 12:13over time synchronized their swings.
- 12:15Their oscillations would couple influence each other through the
- 12:19shared mechanical connections of the wall until they were beating
- 12:23basically in precise opposition, not randomly synchronizing,
- 12:27opposite synchronization. And so like 2 partners breathing
- 12:31one in, one out, sort of like me sitting in a room in a vacuum
- 12:34with a tree, right? I'd breathe in, I'd breathe in,
- 12:36it would breathe out. I would breathe out, it would
- 12:38breathe in. And so Hikens recognized this as
- 12:41this kind of a precision advantage.
- 12:43If one clock was running slightly faster than the other,
- 12:47slightly slower, the residence between those two would pull
- 12:50them toward the correct rate and the errors would cancel
- 12:54themselves out. OK, now let's get into antit.
- 12:59Jean Vie and Abraham Louis Brigade both.
- 13:04Both of these people experimented with resonance
- 13:06clocks and pocket watches in the 18th century and the principle
- 13:11was understood, but no one had made it work reliably in a
- 13:14wristwatch because wristwatches they they move constantly.
- 13:17They're on they're on your wrist and they're moving through space
- 13:21and at different angles and and work Dum Dums and we bump them
- 13:24against stuff right. So the conditions for these kind
- 13:27of stable resonance systems that worked in like a wall mounted
- 13:31clock, for example, that seemed pretty impossible to replicate
- 13:34on something that a human arm would wear that was moving
- 13:38around. And Jorn, again, like like most
- 13:40of our folks that we've covered in this podcast, they're
- 13:43obsessive. Jordan spent 15 years figuring
- 13:46out how to do this and he placed two independent balance wheels
- 13:50in very close proximity on on a single case.
- 13:54And they were close enough that the tiny air pressure variations
- 13:58that were created by each balance oscillation, the spring
- 14:01expanding and contracting, kind of think of it as breathing in
- 14:04and breathing out. Breathing in and breathing out,
- 14:06they could actually influence each other's balance.
- 14:08And when the conditions were just right, the two balances
- 14:12synchronized but in opposite phase oscillations beating
- 14:16against each other, not with each other.
- 14:19And the precision benefit that Huygens observed in like the
- 14:221600s and his clocks was now applied on the wrist.
- 14:26So the practical result, if your wrist movement accelerates 1
- 14:30balance, the resonance effect will slow it back down.
- 14:34And if the temperature changes effects one, the shared
- 14:37oscillation will correct it. And the two balances keep each
- 14:40other honest. It's a check and balance.
- 14:42It's a yin and Yang. It's a husband and a wife right
- 14:45on your wrist. And there's again, there's no
- 14:48single balance that can achieve this alone.
- 14:51And so when you look at a residence dial, it has two sets
- 14:54of sub dials, one for each balance, each with its own time
- 14:58display local time on one side and typically what you'll see is
- 15:02a second time zone on the other. And the the symmetrical layout
- 15:06is really unmistakable when you look at it.
- 15:08You are looking at the visible expression of an invisible
- 15:13physical phenomenon. You're looking at resonance and
- 15:16the subscription resonance pieces that have sold at
- 15:19Phillips Auctions for like over 1,000,000 Swiss francs.
- 15:23Those are crazy. The current caliber 1520 that
- 15:26was released in 2020 for the 20th anniversary adds a single
- 15:30mainspring with a differential. The visible, it's visible on the
- 15:34center of the dial and it's splitting power equally to both
- 15:38going trains and it adds it because it wasn't more
- 15:40complicated enough, right? They're going to add a rum and
- 15:43soir to each going train as well.
- 15:45And so the 2020 Residents has 1 barrel, 1 differential, 2 going
- 15:49trains, 2 rum and soirs to balance wheels.
- 15:52And it's all snuck into a wristwatch somehow.
- 15:55And I want you to sit with this for a second.
- 15:56Again, 1 barrel, 1 differential, 2 going trains, 2 rim and toirs,
- 16:012 balance wheels. Again in a wristwatch.
- 16:04It's not like a demonstration piece.
- 16:05This isn't like a concept, like a one off.
- 16:07This is like a watch that you can order in platinum or rose
- 16:10gold and actually have this watch on your wrist.
- 16:12And it's a watch that's built around the mechanism that
- 16:15brigade theorized and Francois Paul Jorn spent 15 years making.
- 16:20This is what this guy does. Now Segment 4, I'm going to get
- 16:23into this, so I'm going to call this the the collection or
- 16:25guided tour. We're going to take a walk, but
- 16:27it's going to be a brisk walk. But you should know some of
- 16:30these names. And again, I, I will do my best
- 16:32with the pronunciation, but just bear with me and I apologize to
- 16:36my, my brothers in, in Switzerland.
- 16:38I, I'm doing my best here. So let me talk you through the
- 16:41Jorn collection because I think it deserves this sort of guided
- 16:44tour. So the tour beyond so brain is
- 16:46their, their first piece, their flagship, the tour beyond with
- 16:48the Roman Soir, the the current. They currently feature this kind
- 16:53of vertical turbion cage and they were redesigned in the 20th
- 16:57century, the 20th century in the 20th anniversary to ensure
- 17:01consistent amplitude weather. The watch was laying had on its
- 17:04side. The movement again is 18 karat
- 17:06gold and the prices start well above €150,000 right then they
- 17:11have the chromat silver rain. This is kind of like the
- 17:13everyday Jorn if if there is such a thing as an everyday
- 17:16Jorn, the time only watch with a very distinctive asymmetric
- 17:20layout and the hour and a minute dial they're offset to the
- 17:23right, small seconds is to the left and the power reserve is
- 17:26above no complications beyond like a regulator style display
- 17:30on the kind of like and this just outstanding precision.
- 17:33And this is the piece most Jorn collector collectors have the
- 17:37geoche, a silver dial blued hands, rose gold movement
- 17:42visible through the case back and they start somewhere around
- 17:44the €50,000 for like the new examples.
- 17:47And they are considerably more on secondary market again, if
- 17:51you can even get them retail now they have the Karna Metz
- 17:54residence and that is the crown jewel of the collection again,
- 17:58in my opinion. We just told kind of the story
- 18:01of the dual oscillators. Constant force resonance to
- 18:04ongoing trains, most technically distinctive watch in regular
- 18:07production anywhere in the world.
- 18:08Then there's also the Octa family.
- 18:10Jorn's self winding automatic watches, the Octa automatic.
- 18:14It's kind of their entry level automatic again, if there is, if
- 18:17there is such a thing in Jorn, the Octa Loon, which adds a moon
- 18:21phase. There is a calendar version
- 18:23which is a complete calendar. They have the UTC, which has a
- 18:25second time zone. And so the Octa family has this
- 18:28specific characteristic that collectors love.
- 18:31There is this eccentric time display.
- 18:33It's offset from the center that allows room for other functions,
- 18:37all automatic, all rose gold movements.
- 18:39Again, the Octa is where many Jorn collectors begin their
- 18:42relationship with the brand. And there's also the centigraph.
- 18:46And so when you look at the the the chronograph again, this is
- 18:50accurate to one 100th of a second and is displayed by a
- 18:55second hand that completes it's 1 revolution every six seconds.
- 18:59Most kind of graphs are they measure kind of 110th of a
- 19:03second. Jorns does one 100th of a second
- 19:06without a split seconds mechanism.
- 19:09They do it through a pure gear train architecture.
- 19:12And again, these these folks won the GPHG Chronograph Prize in
- 19:162009. And now we're going to get into
- 19:18one that I think is is unique as well.
- 19:20They have the Sonori Subarin, and this is Jorn's grand
- 19:23complication, A striking watch that chimes the hours, quarters
- 19:28and minutes when you want it to on demand.
- 19:31They're produced in very tiny quantities.
- 19:32The prices are on request, which is, you know, painful.
- 19:35And it's one of the most complex Sonori mechanisms in modern
- 19:38watchmaking. And they also have this thing
- 19:40called the line sport. It's the sportier titanium case
- 19:43version of the collection. Same mechanical philosophy, more
- 19:47approachable aesthetics, still with rose gold movements inside
- 19:51the, you know, every piece in the collection is made in like
- 19:543840 or 42mm platinum or 18 karat gold cases, leather straps
- 20:00or metal bracelets. Boutique retail, typically only
- 20:03annual production is around 900 watches per year, and that's
- 20:06across the entire range. So for context, you know.
- 20:09The Rolex makes roughly in the 1st 20 minutes of a Monday
- 20:13morning. That's what that's what FB Jorn
- 20:15is going to make in the entire year, right?
- 20:17So Jorn has no interest in making more than that.
- 20:20They have been explicit about this as well.
- 20:22And so I think it's for me for context, I think it's just, it's
- 20:25fascinating. They don't want to make more
- 20:27watches. They're explicit about this.
- 20:29The the workshop is sized in a way that it is produced and it's
- 20:33designed in a way that is doing exactly what they want it to be
- 20:36able to do. OK, so now let's get into the
- 20:39next section, Section 5, Segment 5 is Jorn on Jorn, and I'm going
- 20:44to call this the philosophy section.
- 20:46So the man's own words and his way of thinking about
- 20:49watchmaking, I think you know what makes him distinctive
- 20:52beyond just like the technical component.
- 20:54So I'm going to do my best to tell you what makes Francois
- 20:57Paul Jorn distinctive in a way that goes beyond his movements
- 21:01because you know, there are other great watchmakers out
- 21:04there. There are other people producing
- 21:06technically extraordinary watches.
- 21:08What makes Jorn who he is in his hobby goes, I think, well beyond
- 21:12that. And the most almost
- 21:14constitutionally opposed to pretension.
- 21:17And I think this is interesting as well.
- 21:20In an industry that's built on the careful management of
- 21:23mystique, Jorn tends to say what he actually thinks.
- 21:26He's funny in the way that people who are supremely
- 21:30confident in their work can be funny with this kind of dryness
- 21:34that lands because he's earned the right to be dry.
- 21:37And again, when we talk about, you know, when he was asked
- 21:40about Rashep Rashepi again, who we discussed in episode 13,
- 21:44trained under a Jorn Wright himself before he founded
- 21:47Akribia, he said that Rashep was his favorite young watchmaker.
- 21:50And then again, he added now that especially that he stopped
- 21:53copying me. And again, that line, that's the
- 21:55whole man and just a handful of words.
- 21:57He loves the young watchmaker He trained, you know, trained
- 22:01enough to call him his favorite. He's self possessed enough to
- 22:05frame it as a compliment to himself, right?
- 22:08And I think he's talked about what drove him to make watches
- 22:12and terms that sound like more of a novelist than an engineer.
- 22:16You know, he wanted to own a Turbian.
- 22:19He couldn't afford 1, so he decided to take the path that he
- 22:22was going to make one for himself.
- 22:24That's not the language of a technician optimizing production
- 22:27process. That's a language of someone
- 22:29who's genuinely haunted by by an object that he couldn't possess.
- 22:33And so he wanted to own one and whose path to possession was to
- 22:38make something from nothing. That's kind of the orientation
- 22:41toward the objects, towards something itself rather than
- 22:44toward the market or positioning or brand strategy.
- 22:48And this is what I think the Invenet a seat or Faqit actually
- 22:54means in practice. He invented it because he wanted
- 22:57to know if something was possible.
- 22:59He makes this stuff because it's the only way he knows how to
- 23:03properly understand what he's inventing.
- 23:06He has to do it from scratch. He doesn't want to purchase it
- 23:08from Atelier or someone else making them and then put them
- 23:10into his movements. He wants to make them.
- 23:12And there's a line from FP Jorn's own website that has kind
- 23:15of stayed with me. And if we talk about things
- 23:17haunting me, this is kind of one that haunts me.
- 23:19He talks about his time and his uncle's restoration workshop
- 23:22handling, you know, great historical pieces.
- 23:24And he says that this period allowed him to, quote, meet many
- 23:28important collectors, but also to understand, quote, origins of
- 23:32watchmaking. No, not the history of
- 23:35watchmaking, the origins, the thing the craft was reaching for
- 23:40before commerce and scale and branding arrived.
- 23:43Jorn spent 50 years trying to get back to those origins by
- 23:48making watches that are fully thought out, that are fully
- 23:52thought through. And this is the part that gets
- 23:54me is that they are fully made by the same person who invented
- 23:58them and who imagined them. That's what that means.
- 24:01And that is, I think in the end, why we've spent, you know,
- 24:04going, building up to 19 episodes to get to this point
- 24:07because I didn't feel like I was worthy to even discuss this
- 24:10material. I felt like the I wasn't going
- 24:13to be able to provide ample respect for what this person has
- 24:17done. And I'm hoping again, I think
- 24:20maybe after 19 or you know, the end of the first season as it
- 24:23comes to a close, I'm hoping that somehow my voice is going
- 24:26to come through and in a respect for what this person is doing,
- 24:29the segment 7, why Jorn matters, you're also going to know that I
- 24:33left out a section about Jorn in regard to the court section.
- 24:36We can get into the quartz watches as well and how
- 24:38magnificent those watches are. But I'm going to stick to to the
- 24:42ones that I know the most about South.
- 24:44Again, the show's argument I want to explain this to.
- 24:46So I'm going to pull some threads together hopefully and
- 24:48I'm going to connect Joran back to what this show is really
- 24:50about. So let me kind of make the full
- 24:51argument now. So in episode 10, we talked
- 24:54about Hedonia and Eudaimonia, the watches that make you happy
- 24:57and the watches that make you, you.
- 24:58We said that a healthy collection has both, but that
- 25:02the most meaningful watches the ones whose value lives entirely
- 25:06inside of you and what you understand them to be.
- 25:08In episode 11, we talked about Rolex, the brand whose value
- 25:12lives in kind of a significant part in the recognition what the
- 25:16watch says about the world around you.
- 25:18In episode 12 and 13, we trace bloodlines to Renault and Poppy
- 25:22through Google, Forzi and the Gronofels and Pequine, and then
- 25:25to snuck in Resheppe. Resheppe and the watchmaker
- 25:29whose pieces are really invisible to anyone outside of
- 25:33this hobby, who's really in deep and whose entire value lives in
- 25:37what you know, what the wearer knows.
- 25:39And now, as you know, we've come kind of full circle to episode
- 25:4319 and we get to FP Jorn. FP Jorn to me is the connective
- 25:48tissue of the independent watchmaking world.
- 25:50The Gronofelds came from Manoa. Papi Rashef came from Jorns own
- 25:54workshop. Philippe Dufour, whom you know,
- 25:57the Crador Micro artist studio folks had traveled to
- 26:01Switzerland to learn from, is Jorn's peer and contemporary.
- 26:04And the network of the finest watchmakers in the world runs
- 26:07through a handful of people. And it does seem to me, as I
- 26:10look and I step back and I do more homework, Jorn seems to be
- 26:14this central node. He's the answer to the question
- 26:17of this show that we've been circling since the very first
- 26:20episode. What does a watch actually mean?
- 26:24A Jorn watch means that one person with a formal education
- 26:28that was interrupted by expulsion.
- 26:30I'm sorry, Francois, for bringing that up with a family
- 26:34connection. Who gave him a second chance
- 26:36with eight years spent handling the greatest watches of the
- 26:40third of three centuries in Paris in a restoration workshop
- 26:44and then decided at age 20 that he wanted to build a torbion and
- 26:48then spent seven years building it and then 15 more years
- 26:52building everything else that followed.
- 26:55That is what a watch can mean. Not a logo, not a wait list, not
- 26:59a secondary market multiple, just one person's obsession made
- 27:04physical, handed to another person who wears it on their
- 27:07wrist for decades. Invenit ET bekit invented and
- 27:12made. That's the argument.
- 27:14That is what this show has been building toward.
- 27:17All right, I hope that that that landed OK, Segment 7, we're
- 27:20going to get into what's what's next.
- 27:22And also known as the Season 1 finale.
- 27:25This is a teaser for episode 20. And again, I hope that this
- 27:30comes across as warm but also anticipatory of just one my
- 27:33appreciation and then also excitement to bring a Season 1
- 27:37to a close. I am honored to be able to do
- 27:39this. So next week is the season
- 27:41finale of What's on Your Reese Day.
- 27:43Season 1 so far has had 19 episodes.
- 27:46We've been to Switzerland, Germany, Netherlands, France,
- 27:49America, Japan, Britain, and we have this growing arsenal of
- 27:54followers now across the globe, which is just, it's nuts.
- 27:57And we've talked about philosophy and security and
- 28:00vintage washes. We've talked about the
- 28:02psychology of buying a Rolex in the, the, the mechanics of
- 28:05Spring Drive and the story of a refugee from Kosovo who grew up
- 28:09to make the most quietly extraordinary watches on earth
- 28:12and a French watchmaker who trained him.
- 28:15And so next week, before we close this season out, I want to
- 28:18hear from you. And so the second-half of
- 28:21episode 20 is going to be something that I, I, I shuddered
- 28:24to do and not do, but I'm going to do something that I, I know
- 28:28some podcasters just hate and other ones just build their
- 28:31livelihood on. So I'm going to sneak it just as
- 28:331/2 of an episode, OK, It's going to be my listener mail
- 28:36section. These are the letters or
- 28:38messages that I've gotten that have come in things about like
- 28:41Hedonia and Eudaimonia, stories from like episode 10, the Rolex
- 28:46friend confession from episode 11, the I once saw the Shep in
- 28:50person and this is what it was like.
- 28:52I actually got one of those stories, which is pretty cool.
- 28:54Episode 13, the British watchmakers and then episode 18
- 28:59and everything else that has just been generous from people
- 29:02to send me. So I just I'm really excited.
- 29:04So I'm I'm going to read some of them on air.
- 29:06I'm going to respond to some of them and I'll let you as the
- 29:09community kind of speak as well. Now, this show has always been
- 29:14about conversation, not just the brands and the movements and
- 29:17stuff, but really not going beyond just the history.
- 29:20But I really like to talk about the people who love this hobby
- 29:24so much that they made watches that mean something to them, and
- 29:28then they share them with us. So the first half of the finale
- 29:31is going to be this reflection on the season.
- 29:33It will be what the show has been and what we've learned.
- 29:36And they were. I think Season 2 is going to go
- 29:40and there are some places that we haven't been yet, some makers
- 29:43that we obviously haven't covered, some conversations that
- 29:45we haven't even started yet. And so I'm going to do my best
- 29:48to kind of map out what that looks like.
- 29:49But the second-half of the episode is going to really
- 29:51belong to you. It's going to be a this moment
- 29:54where if you you know, we have a letter, a story, a memory, a
- 29:57question, a collection update, a watch you've been wearing since
- 30:00episode 3. This is the moment where you'll
- 30:02send it to me. OK, And we're going to use, you
- 30:05know, use the contact information
- 30:07restayristepodcast@gmail.com to send me information.
- 30:11And again, I'll read some of those ones on air.
- 30:14Now one season again, 20 episodes of hopefully I'll do my
- 30:17best to close it out the right way.
- 30:18OK, so that has been episode 19 of what's on your restay in this
- 30:21episode. If you gave you something, if
- 30:23you and if you one can afford an FB Jorn or if you've ever seen
- 30:28one in person or if you simply look up the residence and it
- 30:30just you get to sit with it for a second online.
- 30:32That's the right response to Francois Paul Jorn for the seven
- 30:36years in that Parisian workshop outside of business hours.
- 30:39For the turbion you built at 20 because you couldn't afford to
- 30:43buy one. For the Rose gold movements when
- 30:45everyone else said brass is fine.
- 30:48For the residence, which took 15 years to work, for training
- 30:52Reshep. For the quote about Reshep.
- 30:54For all of it. This hobby is unimaginably
- 30:57richer because you never stopped.
- 30:59I'm watch Offski, take care of yourselves and wear something
- 31:01good. And if that's an FPG or in,
- 31:03goodness gracious you, you are too.
- 31:06You're too fancy for this podcast.
- 31:08Have a great day. When the old brass glow you bend
- 31:27the morning thin little rooms of steel where the minutes sleep
- 31:35within tiny moonlit screws and a patient hand.
- 31:42You turn a silent world till it learns to stand. 1 ring, then 2.
- 31:48The air links in. I hear the this beneath your
- 31:53grin. Make it last.
- 32:01Hold the past tick by tick. You call it homes ones from bone
- 32:10to Chrome. From Bone to Chrome.
- 32:25When your bench shat down, there's a thin gold line, a
- 32:29wheel, a gem, and a stolen kind of time.
- 32:32You don't chase the rush, you coax it near.
- 32:37Every little bee comes back crystal clear. 1 ring.
- 32:41Then too, the air leans in. I hear the hush beneath your
- 32:47queen. Make it last.
- 32:55Hold the past. Stick by pick.
- 32:58You call it home. Zone, zone from bomb to Chrome.
- 33:04Let the day run the wild at the shake you keep the heart from a
- 33:24final break. No wasted shine or borrowed
- 33:29face, Just the steady art of a perfect place.
- 33:39Make it fast, hold the past tick by tick.
- 33:46You call it home from bond crown, keep the flame sign your
- 33:58name. One small pulse and it feels
- 34:01like more.