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Bechoros 39 · Daf Yomi with Aaron Cohen

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_00: Bukhizdavlam and Tess, we're gonna start by the Mishnah, the first Mishnah on Laman Tessam and Allah.
• 0:05
  SPEAKER_00: Chhoitmai, Shanikh Vishnugam.
• 0:07
  SPEAKER_00: So we're talking about the different types of mumin that you're gonna be able to go now and take your bikar and shachti because it has a qualifying mum.
• 0:13
  SPEAKER_00: Now we discuss mu'min in the ear, we discuss mu'min in the eye, now we're going on to mumin in the nose, chhoitmai, his nose, shanike visha nivga mishanizduk that has one of these types of holes.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_00: Or sfam svasai is the proper gear.
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_00: So the lip, shen nikwa shenivgamizdaga.
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_00: In all these cases, either the nose as a whole or the lip as a whole, that would be a qualifying mum to allow you to go now and schecht this bich.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_00: If you got a hole in the nose from the outside, though, from the outside of the skin to the inside or is a mum, that's considered a mum.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_00: As we saw yesterday, it has to be a mum shabagoli because uh anything, it's only gonna be considered a mum.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_00: Generally, if it's a mum and shabagoli, it's something you could see if it's noticeable.
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_00: So if it's on the outside the hole, it's noticeable and it's considered a mum.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_00: Mib, however, if it happened on the inside, what's on the inside?
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_00: So that pasta this is the inner wall right here between the two nostrils.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_00: So if it happened, you got a hole through the middle of that, that would not be mumenshabagoli, and therefore, in a mum.
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_00: It's not gonna be considered a mum because it's not a mum shabagoli.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_00: And sorry, the next thing, Swasy Shinikva, Vishaniskima, Vishanizdika, so his lip, the bah.
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_00: They got one of these types of holes.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_00: They were talking about the outer lip.
• 1:29
  SPEAKER_00: The outer tura barra barra is the outer tura is the row.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_00: So the outer row of the lip basically means the outer lip as opposed to the inside of the lip.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_00: Meaning something you can see.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's uh saying the same is saying, Moment shabba gala.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's the point.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_00: Zukt, the next mission.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_00: Hut and achitanius, very straightforward, technical uh mission I'm brassis.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_00: So Hut and Hachitanius, we already saw this, this is referring to the outer gums.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_00: Again, the mission is discussing what type of mom is gonna qualify you to go and have a shach to buar because now this is a good moment enough of a moment that you're gonna be able to shach the buhar.
• 2:03
  SPEAKER_00: Hut and achitanius, the outer gums.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_00: Shenifgu Shanifgemu got some type of uh some type of hole.
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_00: What was Negmimu again?
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_00: We saw that yesterday.
• 2:15
  SPEAKER_00: Right, yes.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, fine.
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, okay, so uh said that.
• 2:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, uh.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_00: So there's the outer gums.
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_00: Hapnimum, so that would be considered a mo.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_00: Hapnimium shinekur, or the inner gums that completely got uprooted.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_00: So if it's the outer outer gums, it just needs a little hole.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_00: If it's the inner gums, it gotta be completely uprooted, because again, if it's completely uprooted, it's already noticeable.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_00: So over here, ha matimas.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_00: The point over here is the tiimus we'll call it for easiness, is the molars of the animal.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_00: Miloshan teumim, which is uh twins, and the reason is because it looks like two teeth, but it's really one tooth as the molar.
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_00: So, ain bite can minatiumis with a fnim.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_00: From the molar tooth and an inside, we don't check.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_00: The athloya is a timis, and even not the molars themselves.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_00: So a little sus on what the Mishnah is saying, and we're gonna bring a braisna now that's even more sauce and then we're gonna explain in the Mishnah what in the world is going on over here.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_00: What's the TMS?
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_00: Is it o TMS?
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_00: What are the TMS?
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_00: What's the molars?
• 3:21
  SPEAKER_00: Minatamas will fnim from the molars and inside.
• 3:24
  SPEAKER_00: And then the molars themselves are considered like inside.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_00: Like they're not considered chitzanyas.
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_00: Says the game, what is going on over here?
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_00: But first, let's finish the brais.
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_00: We only chef if the moam is on the outer, is on the outer uh part of the lips.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_00: Bilvach Remchaniman taken the sameer in Mashgichal Tiamus Kalik.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_00: We don't even look at the Tiamas, we don't look at the molars, Bakal, it's too inside, we're not gonna care about it.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_00: End of Bryce.
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_00: It says the gamma, Mikeyomar.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_00: What in the world is going on over here?
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_00: Visu, and furthermore, what's the May Kiomar?
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_00: It's just first of all, what's going on in the in the Bryce?
• 3:59
  SPEAKER_00: No, that the inside is too inside, the outside is gonna be good.
• 4:04
  SPEAKER_00: It seems to be the same sheet that Ribishum and Kaputsei and Tanakama, because Ribishumen of Kaputsei says, ain't shaftan a chitni.
• 4:09
  SPEAKER_00: So you could only shacht for a mum that's on the chat, it's on the outside.
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_00: So we don't look at the inside.
• 4:13
  SPEAKER_00: What did Tanakama say?
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_00: Tanakama said, element minatiyamas villifnim is uh considered lifim.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's two inside.
• 4:19
  SPEAKER_00: So it sounds like Tanakama says we don't look at the inside, and Ribishumen Kaputzai says we only look at the outside.
• 4:23
  SPEAKER_00: Sounds like they're saying the same thing.
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_00: Says the gmorachsuri macharbachani.
• 4:27
  SPEAKER_00: Very good.
• 4:27
  SPEAKER_00: This whole brace is one big Khsuri Mahserva Khtani, and this is how you have to read it.
• 4:31
  SPEAKER_00: A Zelwa Panemis.
• 4:33
  SPEAKER_00: What are considered the Panemis?
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_00: What's considered inside that's not gonna be considered a mum?
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_00: Mina Tiyumas from the molars and inside.
• 4:39
  SPEAKER_00: And that is not gonna be considered a mum that you're gonna be able to shakhta, because again, it's not mum and shabba golak.
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_00: And the tumis themselves, the molars themselves, is considered kalifnim, and therefore in that area it's not gonna be considered a mum, because it's not mum shabagalog.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_00: Bam in the mum mum, what is that true?
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_00: Shin nifgemu, shin nakmu, if it was just like a holer said like Aval Neckru, but if it was completely uprooted, these pnemies, then shot.
• 5:02
  SPEAKER_00: Then you could shach it because again, if it was completely uprooted, that's already a much bigger zach over there, and it's already noticeable, and that's why it's gonna be considered a mum.
• 5:09
  SPEAKER_00: And that is the sheet of the tanakama, Ribishum and Kaputzai Oimer, in Shachtin Elalekhitsanias.
• 5:15
  SPEAKER_00: We only shacht for a mum that's on the outer ones.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_00: Ah, well, pneemas, but on the inner ones, even if they were completely uprooted.
• 5:24
  SPEAKER_00: We're not gonna shacht because of that.
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_00: That's the machlikas.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_00: So we that answers your question before the tanakama hainu Ribishumen Kapuzai, or we said it the opposite.
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_00: But the point is, that answers your question because Yeshua ben Kaputsa is coming clearly and saying that no, the only time we're gonna allow you to shaft the Bahar is if the Mum was on the Khitsadis.
• 5:40
  SPEAKER_00: But the Pneemias, even if they were completely uprooted, not like what you're saying, Tanakaba, even completely uprooted, Mishkat Allah Shachtina, we're not gonna let you shacht it.
• 5:48
  SPEAKER_00: Avalifsuli nifsah however, we are gonna passle it from a carbon.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_00: Meaning if it's completely uprooted, it's gonna be enough of a mum that it's gonna be possible to be brought in a c as a carbon on the misbehak, but it's not gonna be enough of a mum to allow you to go and shach the Bukharbi because of it.
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_00: So it's some somewhere in between.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_00: And I care so little about the tiomits on the inside.
• 6:16
  SPEAKER_00: I don't even care if they're all necru all the way, you can still bring it as a carbon.
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_00: So that was the Hsur Mahsra Makdani, and that's the different sheet as we saw in the Bricea.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_00: Boy Rev Achtevoy Barami.
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_00: Rev Achdevoy Barami as the following.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_00: If an animal is mechusser avar mibifnim, it's missing an aver on the inside.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_00: So if it's a mechusur aver, it's considered a ba mum, missing a leg, right?
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_00: That's mumunch of a goli.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_00: What if it's a mechusser avermifnim?
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_00: It has an aver on the inside that it's completely missing.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_00: It's missing one of the kidneys we're gonna see.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_00: That's it, mechusr aver, but it's mifnim.
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_00: So it's not the gali.
• 6:48
  SPEAKER_00: You don't see it, but it is mechusser aver.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_00: So is it gonna be considered a mum or not?
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_00: Oh we know there's ways to know.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, a doctor.
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_00: Go to go take an X-ray.
• 6:57
  SPEAKER_00: So says the Gemar, Mechusser Abri Mefnim, oh yeah, mechusser ibnfnim.
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  SPEAKER_00: So is that gonna be considered a mum or not?
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_00: Says the gimar lema.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_00: What naf what to what are we talking about, right?
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_00: Ili bichar, if it's for a bichar that you want to consider it a mum to go in now shacht psiakhir.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_00: If it says pisiah, which were the mumin, the posik explain that you're gonna be able to shacht the animal because of, and these are what's the point over here?
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_00: Mumin shabagalo, it has to be noticeable.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_00: And even if it's missing a kidney on the inside, it's not noticeable, and therefore it's not gonna be considered a mum.
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_00: Ila kochim.
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe the question is cotchim, right?
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_00: That is this considered if it's missing an abre on the inside, is it considered a mum that you're gonna be able to now be poided like psuya mugdashin?
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_00: If it's all katshim, iveres a shaver because if the post says iveres oys shavar, either uh blind or broken as a broken leg, the point is these are mumenshabogaloi.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_00: And a mum and shabogaloi also by cotchim to a certain extent, need mum and shabogali in order to be considered a mum.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_00: So why should it be considered a mum that you're gonna be able to go and be poid to this animal like psua mugdashin?
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_00: So says the Gemara, I'll tell you like this.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_00: Our question isn't that is this considered a mum by a bahor?
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_00: At kteikah that we're gonna allow you to schecht the bihar based on it.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_00: And our question isn't by cutchim that uh is this considered a mum that your mamash gonna be able to be poid.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_00: That's not our question, because for sure you're not gonna be allowed to.
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  SPEAKER_00: Why?
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  SPEAKER_00: Because in the end of the day, it's not a mum shabagali, it's not a clear cut mum, it's only a mum on the inside, it's missing an aber, but at the end of the day, it's not goli like the Possak says, and therefore we'll never allow you to schecht or be poided based off this.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_00: Kimi Bylan, what's our question?
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_00: Lefsule, is it enough of a mum to passulate from a karmon?
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_00: So that's already a hold of the narrative, right?
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_00: So it's a it could be this in-between places we know that we're not gonna allow you to schecht it, but you still can't bring it as a carbon.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_00: So you can add that in between place.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_00: Lefsule and my if it's missing an Aver Chesure, if it's um, if it's uh Mechhusser Aver Mibishnim, it's missing an Aver on the inside and it's not the Goli, is that gonna be considered enough of a mum to even passle it?
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_00: Or no, it's mum is not a mum bichlah that you could bring it as a carbon.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_00: That's the question.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_00: Mai.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_00: Tomim yelat'namarh Malanda Tariq says you can only bring a carbon when it's a tomim.
• 8:57
  SPEAKER_00: Tomim yelaratun.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_00: When is a yielaratzin to be brought as a carbon when it's tomim?
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_00: When it's complete, it has no mum.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_00: Tomim miel khisar along, which teaches you have only if it's complete, and not if it's chsaran, and even mebifnim would be a problem.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_00: And therefore you can't bring it as a carbon.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_00: Or maybe tomim yyalaratzin call mum yalyabai.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_00: When we say the animal has to be tomim to be brought as a carbon luratsin, right?
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_00: Then carbon is always luratsin.
• 9:18
  SPEAKER_00: It has to be, that's why khishna is actually on my right side, because it has to be brought, luratzin has to be lurtsin.
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_00: But the point is that do we say, since the pasik says in one breath, tomim yalaratin has to be a tomim complete, and then it says about a mum, call mumli, but I can't have a mum.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_00: So that teaches me, ma'am avrai.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_00: Just like a mum is only considered a mum if it's on the outside, because it's bigal, like the examples in the posik.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_00: Ah, chissarmiavray.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_00: So too, when it says tamim, and it can't be chisar because it has to be tamim, that only refers to something on the outside.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_00: But something on the inside wouldn't disqualify it from being tamin, and it should still be considered tammim.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_00: So what is the answer?
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_00: And that was our question.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_00: Again, what's our question?
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_00: Is it considered a mum or is it not considered a mum?
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_00: So says the Gemara Ravadah, not asking whether you could go and shech the bikar.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_00: It's for sure not a mum legabi that's because it has to be mum's gali.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_00: And even if you buy the regular card chim, it's not considered a mum, because even the examples by Psunay Mugdashim are Mum and Shabagali.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_00: So it's not Mum and Shabagali, nothing to talk about.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_00: The question is, if is it considered enough of a mum to possibly from bringing uh from bringing it as a karbun.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_00: The question is, do we compare Mum in the Posuk to Liratsan in the Pas to Tommy Liratsan in the Posak to teach you that just like uh mum has to be me'avray, so too the Tomim is only talking about Meavray on the outside, or not says I'm Tashma bring your ray, Vashteya Klais, the pasik says as it relates to Kodchim, it says Vashteya Kwali.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_00: So you bring the two kidneys.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_00: But we're dartioning this, that you could only bring an animal as a carbon that has two kidneys, Villi Balkuliahs, but not if the animal has one kidney.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_00: Not if it was born with three kidneys, that would be a problem.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_00: So we have a tani that can have another brice, so that seems to be so this because the posik says, and the brace that brings the posik, yes sirena.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_00: The posik says yisirena, which is a lush in yachit, this is an avoid of the karbanas, but we're darshing it to teach you what type of animal you're gonna be able to bring.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_00: So yes sirena, you take out the the kill the the kidney, but it's a lush and yochit.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_00: You take out it, meaning not them, really.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_00: If you're talking about two kidneys, it's them.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_00: But yes sirena is lush in yochit, and therefore the rabb is bakas, which teaches you you could even bring a karban, even if it has one kidney.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_00: So it's a stira.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_00: We said a second ago that you can only bring it as a carbon if it has two kidneys, not one, not three.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_00: And we just said in the next price, so the rabb is koyahachas.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_00: Even if it has one kidney, you're gonna be able to bring it.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_00: What's shot?
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_00: So let's try to answer the stira, and from there we're gonna see the answer to our question.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_00: Savrua, so the Bina Shiva thought that the kuleama ain't very baachas.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_00: They thought originally, the the the when they were going through this question, they thought that everyone agrees, and everyone is in agreement, there's no machikas that ain't very baachas.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_00: It's not possible for an animal to be b born with one uh kidney.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_00: It's an impossibility.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_00: And therefore what?
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_00: And now, if we're talking about a Metzias with uh animal with only one kidney, obviously it started off with two kidneys, and it's chasr.
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_00: And now it was taken out, it was removed, whatever happened, it was injured, and therefore it was chhasar.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_00: Now it is chasr.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_00: It's not like it was born like that, and it's not chasir.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_00: No, it is chasr because it had to be born with two.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_00: So layman machine.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_00: According to that hanachah, the machlikus would be the following.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_00: Meaning the machlik is between the two braces that we're trying to reconcile now.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_00: So what's it once it's for sure chissarin, because obviously something happened to the second one, and now it's missing the second one.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_00: So Maasabah Khazar Mifnim Shamehissaran the Madamar who says it's gonna be a problem, that's because he holds Khassar and Mimfnim.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_00: Very good, it's this machlikis, right?
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_00: Because it's a chissar and mimifnim.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_00: The killy other the kidney is on the inside.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_00: So if it's missing one of the kidneys, because it was obviously born with the second kidney and now it only has one, so khissar and mimifnim shmeh sorry to my saber, the second cheetah that holds its fine, no problem.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_00: Khassar Mifnim Laishmehsar, and then the day it's only on the inside, we don't care about the inside, it has to be bagoli, and therefore no problem.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_00: That seems to be the machlakas.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_00: So it seems to be machalikis tonam, says a gmaram rachibar.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_00: That is not what's going on.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_00: Really, I'll tell you the kulayama yeshbear bachas.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_00: I'll tell you a quaint differently.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_00: Really, everyone agrees that you can have a mitsia where an animal is only born with one kidney.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_00: And therefore, what?
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_00: Therefore, if it was born with one kidney, it's not missing anything.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_00: There's no kissar and mimfnim, there's no chassis at all.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_00: Because that's how it was born.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_00: And everyone holds that if it is missing something, mimifnim, shmehisarn, it would be considered a chassarn, it would be considered a mum.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_00: It's like kasha, it's not a kasha between these two braces because khan, khesh and rabishtaim, michasra, wa, meaning the brace that says it's a problem when it has one kidney, is talking about a case where it was created with two, meaning, even according to Manamar, even though everyone agrees over here that you can have a Metsius when it was created with one, obviously most of the time it's gonna be created with two, right?
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_00: Everyone agrees to that.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_00: But the whole machle says Khan Kishanivra Bishtai Michasra, the breast that says it's a problem, so not a machle, it's metssius, right?
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_00: So Khan Kishanivra Bishtai Machasra, the Breis that says it's a problem is taught about a case where it was created with two, and now it only has one because of an injury, because it was taken out, and therefore it's considered chissarun, and everyone agrees that Khazar Mbifnim Shmeh Khissaran it's gonna be considered a problem.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_00: And Khan, the Brace that said it's no problem is Kishan Nivra Bachmeh Kara.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_00: When this animal was born with only one.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_00: So there's no chissarin mibifnim.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_00: But anakanami, if there was a chassisar and mibifnim, it would be considered a problem, it would be considered uh chhisarin.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_00: Says Gamar, how could you possibly suggest that?
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_00: Well, Dummy the Shalish Khatani, the Brace that said that it's a problem said it in the context of three as well.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_00: Two is okay, but if you have one or three, it's a problem.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_00: Says the Gemara, three is obviously not talking about where it was uh added later.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_00: It's talking about a case where it was born with three, it had an issue, and therefore, with a case of one also, it must be dummy the shalish.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_00: It must be where it's dummy to the case of three, because it was said in one breath in the Braissa.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_00: So just like the case of three, it was born that way, so to the case of one it was born that way, and still the Braissa says in that Braissa of the three that it's a problem.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_00: So that's not what's going on over here.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, the Bryce that says it's a problem is not talking about a case where it was taken out.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, it's talking about a case where it was actually born that way.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_00: So your whole way your whole explanation goes out the window.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_00: Says Gemara and why we we said Dummy the Shalash Mashoraikara achasmeekar.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_00: So to the case of one that we're saying is possible, must be where it was born like that as well.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_00: So we knock off that answer.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_00: Says Gemara, Allah, you're right.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_00: Hacha beyesh bariame kara kamithali.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_00: You're right.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_00: The whole machlaika says, it's not that everyone holds Yesh Bari Mayekara or everyone holds Ain Barri Mayekara.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_00: No, this is goof of the Machleikas.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_00: That Yesh Bari Mayekara Kamithu.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_00: The Machleika says whether you could have a Matsias where an animal is born with one kidney.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_00: Mar saber yesh bari bachas.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_00: Mashita that holds that it's kosher is because he holds that you could have a matius that it was born with one.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_00: Since it was born with one, it's not missing anything, no problem.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_00: When Mar Saba Ainbari Bachas and the Manar that says it's puzzle, he holds because it's impossible for it to be born with one, and therefore, if it's impossible for it to be born with one, it must be the fact that it has one now, it's missing.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_00: It's a machizarman's name, Shmechar, and therefore it's puzzle.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_00: By the way, if you can ask the obvious question that would come to mind over here, that what that we just said a second ago has to be Domi the Shalish.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_00: How are you telling me right now that the Mandama that says it's puzzle says that it's impossible to be born with one?
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_00: We said in the same breath it's Domi the Shalush, just like the shalish had to be born with three.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_00: So to the one it had to be born with one.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_00: So what are you telling me now that he holds uh it wasn't born with one?
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_00: We just we we asked that question one line ago.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_00: So Rashi says that it's stopped Kalane Mayri.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_00: My Rebbe had that question.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_00: Alamalam actually with the question we just said.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_00: We did the Lakashali media says Rashi, it's not a question for me at all.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_00: The khlao.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_00: Why?
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_00: Because in the previous question we only asked that because we were in the world, Rashi explains of the Kule Alma.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_00: Everyone agrees that it's that it's uh everyone agrees that it's uh impossible to be born Which case was that?
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_00: Everyone agrees in that cheetah, everyone held in Beriba Achas that it's impossible to be born with one.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_00: And if it's impossible to be born with one, that's when we asked the quesh berribach.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yesh Baribachas, right?
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, sorry.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_00: We were in the world of Yesh Baribachas, where everyone agreed that it's possible to be born with one, and therefore we could admit that's why, if everyone agrees, so we're gonna say within the sheetah, it's very possible to say, even the sheetah that says three and one, it has to be that that the the one is diamond to the three.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_00: Just like the three was obviously born that way, so too the one was born that way.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_00: Because again, we're in the world where everyone holds that's that's a possibility, but over here we're in the world that that's go for the machikas.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_00: And this sheeta that says it's possible clearly is of the opinion that it's impossible.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_00: So don't try to say it's dummy the shalash.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_00: I'll tell you it can be dummy the shalash because then it's impossible.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_00: It's a very simple uh distinction over here, and that's why Rashi says, Well, did he like Hasha Midi?
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_00: It's not a question, but I think reading through the Sundi is the thing that comes to mind.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_00: But says they're like Rebbi's Rebbe, like Rashi's Rebbi head, so don't feel bad.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_00: Says the Kamara, Rabychanama, the Kuleama ain't beribach.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_00: Rabbi'ah answered differently.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_00: Everyone agrees really the ain beriba achas, that you cannot have a Metsius of an animal being born with one.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_00: And therefore, if it has one right now, what does that mean?
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_00: That it's chaser, that it obviously is uh chhesaran.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_00: And everyone agrees that since it's chasar now, it's gonna be considered a chassar and it's gonna be considered a mum.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_00: Really, the animal was good up until uh well it depends.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_00: Khan Shahsra, Koinim Shita, the Manama that says it's puzzle, that's because it when did it lose its kidney?
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_00: When did it have this chissar and it had this injury and a kidney taken out?
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_00: That happened before Shita, that's why it says it's puzzle, very good, because everyone agrees that a chisar infiniment.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_00: But Khan Shechasra, Lachashkita, the Manam that says not a problem, that's because up until Shita it had two kidneys.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_00: When did it not have a kidney anymore?
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_00: After Shita, says the Gemara, lachhita kwaid and kabbala mishari.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_00: So interesting.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_00: Well you would have thought, who cares after Shita, right?
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_00: But the Gemara is saying the opposite.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_00: Right now we're talking about where it lost the second kidney when?
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_00: It lost the second kidney after Shita, but before Kabbalah.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_00: And says the Gemara, that's actually a problem.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_00: Because we need it to be the same throughout the Avaidis.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_00: And therefore, the acha shita khedim kabbalah mishari.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_00: Is it okay if the animal loses a part of it after the shita, before the kabbalah, vehzil amarah, but it's in the name of Rahab the Ratzar, reminds an apar.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_00: And this is the classic mum, right?
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_00: Someone who chips the ear of the of the par, that's your quintessential uh uh mum.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_00: So you schechted it, it was a state tamaratz, and it was perfect karma.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_00: You shachhted it very good.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_00: So Kazmanis Animal was alive, no problem in the world.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_00: But before you did the kabbalah, before you did the kabbalah, you inflicted a mum.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_00: You were at Tseramazanapar, kibaldama, and only after that you did the kabbalah.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_00: Pasel's gonna be puzzle.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_00: Why?
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_00: And that teaches you when are you doing the lakihah?
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_00: When are you doing the uh when are you doing the kabbal over here?
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_00: Midama par, that's teaching you the ha parish.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_00: It has to be from the same par that was before.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_00: It has to be the same exact uh status as it was before, just like before it was a shalim, so to now it has to be a shalom.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_00: And if you inflict a mum right before the kabbalah it's gonna be a problem.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_00: So says the gemar, but how could that be in the machelikas?
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_00: Everyone agrees that that would actually be an issue if it's not in the same same state that it was before Shita until after Kabbalah.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_00: So the Gemaran, Allah Kanchasraqadim Kabbalah, Kanchhla after Kabbalah.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_00: The whole machelikas is, or the two Brisas are talking about two different cases.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_00: One is talking about a case shachasr qadim kabbalah, and therefore it's gonna be a problem.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_00: Since it got this khissarman and lost its kidney before Kabbalah, so we have the drama before.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_00: Like we just said, it has to be the same part as before.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_00: And if it lost its kidney before the kabbalah, so it's not the same part.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_00: Kaman Shahzallah Kabbalah, when did we say it's not a problem in the world for one kidney?
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_00: Even though obviously it's impossible for it to be born like that, and even though if it's missing, it's considered a khissar, and that's if that happened, that's not after Kabbalah.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_00: If it happened after Kabbalah, that's when it's not gonna be a problem.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_00: Really?
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_00: So after Kabbalah we're saying, but not before Zrika, right?
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_00: After Kabbalah, before Zrika, which is the final uh over here, the main available the kabarbaman, is that okay?
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_00: That's gonna be okay now if it loses a part of it and then all of a sudden it gets some type of mumm.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_00: Even after the kabbalah, but before the zriqa, that's not okay.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_00: But the president tells us, set tommim zmachabenshana yalakhem, which teaches me, tomin benshonam bisha skrita.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_00: That it has to be a tamin and benshonam, meaning the tam the tamin, the tmimus matters, the fact that it's not a bam, and the age matters until and embedded throughout the whole shrita.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_00: How do I know even by the all the all the talent ofidas that it has to be in the same state of a tumin and age-wise?
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_00: Tamalla says yu, yiya.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_00: It says yiya, which teaches mehu kalayasai, haviasav tam ubenshana, which teaches me that all its hawaiyas, all of its stages, right?
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_00: So when it goes through the Dalad Avaidas, Krita Kabbalah Eloh Zrika, it has to be this same stage of tam and benshana.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_00: Has to have the same to me mystic that there's no bauman, that there's no mumana, and it has to be the same age.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_00: So, what do we clearly see over here?
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_00: You're gonna try answering that aye, that the word does it say it's okay if it lost a kidney?
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_00: That's because it happened after Kabbalah, but before Zrika.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_00: We just said over here, even before Zrika, that's still gonna be a problem.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_00: It says Gemara Tergama Abenshana.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_00: But the way we have to explain this right so is that when does it have to be the same?
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_00: When we said that throughout the Dalit Avoidas, even up to the Zrika, it has to be the same stage, that's not going back on both Tammim and Benshana.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_00: It's only going back abenshana, it's only going back on the age.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_00: The age it has to be the whole time.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_00: But if it changed ages and all of a sudden it's not one year anymore, but it turned two years old in the middle of the aboidah, that's gonna be a problem.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_00: But as it relates to Tom, Tom is already not gonna be a problem as long as you're after the Kabbalah like we saw before.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: But after the cabal, even before this recoil, even if something happened and this animal got chopped off, it got moved, whatever it is, it's not gonna be a problem.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_00: It says, and it actually makes sense that way that the only issue is gonna be the benchanah, meaning it has to change ages.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_00: If it got became two years old in the middle of the avoidus, why do we see that?
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_00: Because we have a brace that says Ribishua, Rabishua says, call ushabatarias and ishtam in Kazaiz Basar, Kazaiz Khalib, or rather this fucking Ambastabra, is going on the fact that it doesn't have to be a Tom anymore.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_00: It could obviously be a mum.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_00: Why?
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_00: Because Ibishua said, all the carbonus and the tariff and ish time, Kazaias Basara, a Kazaias Khaleb, even if you all the carbon is gone, besides for a Kazaias of Basar, or a Kazaias of Khaleeb, then you could do the Zrika.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_00: Zarakh Saddam, you could do go and do the Zriqa.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_00: What do we clearly see from here, Shmamy?
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_00: No, we clearly see that even if the rest of the animal is gone, you could still do the Zrika.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_00: So even if so, Kabuhammer, if you have the whole animal besides for one kidney, you could for sure do the Zrika, and it's not gonna matter that it's not a tom anymore.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_00: And obviously, the whole uh kpazah that we had a minute ago is only going back on bench on us.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_00: But we're all thinking, can you even have a metssius?
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_00: Now, what's the whole kpaedah?
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_00: That has to be one year old throughout all the dawadays.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_00: The Da'odabidas have to be done the same day.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_00: And therefore, can you have a Matsiais that it's gonna be uh one year old at the time of the Shita?
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_00: But now during the other Aba'idas it's all all of a sudden two years old, that during the Kabbalah and Allah, it's uh Hababenshtayim.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_00: So Amarabba Rabba says, yeah, you want to know what this teaches us from the fact that you could have such a thing, zaisla meras sha'ois pay s bakim.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_00: That teaches me that sha'is pasu by katsum, which basically means that the way we count one year for the animal is not uh according to the day and the night.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_00: It's according to Mamishta hours.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_00: Rash explains if it was born one year ago, if it was born one year ago, at this hour on the ninth hour of the day, you gotta make sure that you finish the alvaida before the ninth hour of the day.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_00: Because once the ninth hour of the day passes, now it becomes two years old.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_00: It's not going by the days and the nights, it goes actually by the hours, and therefore you could have a case if it was born exactly a year ago, where now it's gonna be in between the alvaidas all of a sudden and two years old, which is going to be a problem.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_00: So is the gummarim katana, let's say this is like a machelikistanaim.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_00: What?
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_00: So we're talking about back to him, shme chissaran oy not.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_00: So again, the sh the chissar and mibiflim, is it gonna be considered a chassisarin if it's missing a kidney?
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_00: Or in the end of the day it has to be ghali to be a problem.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_00: Or not.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_00: I'll tell you that it's really a machelikistanaum.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_00: Uh mach the kasus vina tuk vihar.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_00: So these are different mumin as it relates to uh person's bait.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_00: So the full pasuk is talking about different mumin by by uh karman.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_00: So mach vik the the kar the kasus v nasak vikarus, lay sakribashem.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_00: You can't bring it as a karbon.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_00: Uh the atsachem lay sasu, that end of the pasik is talking about uh the isar to castrate a person.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_00: Don't uh do that to a person or even an animal.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_00: You're not allowed to do such a thing.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so these are the different movements as relate to the baitsim.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_00: So kulimabates and review the rebit says that all those psulim are talking about the baitsim.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_00: So it says really it sounds like a review just saying only by the baitsim and not by the gid itself, not by the Aver, it should be a Kabukheimer, right?
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_00: If these things are by the Batesin that you would think are maybe a little bit besaser or a little bit uh considered uh pneemi, then for sure these things, if it's chopped off cavalheimer by the gid, which is bigoloi, it's more protruding from the body, for sure it's gonna be considered a moment.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_00: So why would you insinuate not the g not the gid?
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like you're alright, don't don't make that deal.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_00: Ama afabatesin means for sure by the gid it would be a problem, but even by the baitsin, these things are gonna be a problem.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, they remember.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_00: That's she does remed.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_00: Remember Lazar Minakov, I remember Lesnar Minak.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_00: Says Kulin Git.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_00: All these things as as it relates to the Aver, not the Batesin.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_00: This is like uh crushed and kosos, what's kosas?
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_00: Mashed.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, different types of crush.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_00: After basin.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_00: So that's even by the basin.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_00: But notukvikorus chopped off completely, or notukorus severed.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_00: Meaning the the the strands that are like connecting into the body, well grinded, crushed, and mashed off.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_00: It's one big mashed potatoes.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_00: That's uh same idea.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_00: So karus, so notukikarus, that means it's chopped off.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_00: It's severed from the body, but it's still in the sack.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_00: That already big in the bait similarly.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_00: By the gid that would be a mum, because if it's severed, it's severed.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_00: But by the baitsum, it's not gonna be considered a mum.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_00: Why?
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_00: Because it's still in the sack.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_00: If it's still in the sack, then uh then already uh it's it's still in the kiss, then it's uh nothing really changed.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_00: It's not really bigoli.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_00: So the game, my la bakum of you that seems to be the machlekis.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_00: The mass of kissarmifisar.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um that seems to be the machlekis, whether Khasarin Bhfim or not.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_00: Why?
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_00: Because we're assuming that the whole sac, the whole, the whole kiss of the Baytim Miklao is considered uh Mum Shabeser.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_00: And that is the machlekis over here.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_00: That whether whether Muminshab, whether Khisar, whether it's Khasar, but it's Mifnim, right?
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_00: It's on the inside because it's the Batesim.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_00: So Khasarmin Fnim Shmehsar, so the Lay's Mikhassar.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_00: The sheeta that holds that it's only the gid these women holds that mumin shabbe's lay his arm.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_00: Really?
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_00: You think that's going on?
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_00: What that's what's going on?
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_00: It can't be.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_00: Because Rubyoisi, my kissava, Ribyoisi that split it down the middle, right?
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_00: Moch Vikotos by Batesim by Batesim, yeah.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_00: But uh very good, Yasl.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_00: But uh no pun intended.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_00: But uh Natuk Vikaras by uh baitsum not, says the Gemara.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_00: Rubysi that splits down the middle, what's he gonna say?
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_00: Even not to kickardas by baitsim should be a problem because in the day, even if it's uh mimifizar, we kiss our leishments and he's gonna tell you Loishmehisarin, a few mouths nami, even if it's crushed, in another day, it's uh the fnim, so it shouldn't be a problem.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_00: It shouldn't be a problem.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_00: What do I have to tell you?
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_00: The machlegis is not about chissarin, me bifnim chissarin or not.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_00: Whether it's missing an aver on the inside, it's gonna be considered a chassarin or not.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_00: The machlekis is about moving shabigoli.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_00: Whether the baitzim and what happened over here as it relates to these four different types of crushed and mashed and cut are considered bgali, are considered something noticeable from the outside or not.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_00: That's the machlekis.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_00: Rabi Yuhuda, let's go through the sheetas.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_00: Rebu the subremuta holes.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_00: Mohikatos have a mumma.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_00: Mohvikatos, where it's crushed, is considered a mum.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_00: Why?
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_00: The Mikachtin, because when it gets crushed, then the kiss kind of shrivels up, and therefore it's noticeable from the outside.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_00: Not to vikaris have a mumma, and also not to not of caris, if it's severed, that is gonna be considered uh mum, meaning even if it's severed, but it's still held within the kiss, so but it's severed from the body, so that's also gonna be considered noticeable.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_00: Why?
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_00: Because now today it's the all of a sudden you see it uh dangling and it's lower.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_00: So it's noticeable and it's moving subagalize.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_00: That is shit that's the hold on moch vik vikotus loyave.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_00: Because originally, also, sometimes we know that uh that a kiss could also be uh shriveled up a little bit and more more uh compact.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_00: That happens as well, and therefore it's not necessarily godlike.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_00: Notuk vikarus loyave muma.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_00: Also, not tuk vikarus, according to Rabyakev, he's gonna say that all four are not.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_00: Why the first two, like I just told you.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_00: Also, not to vikarus, where they're severed, is not considering not gonna be considered a bum.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_00: The meekaranami isn't in this line, because me karanami, it's it's uh dangling, it hangs there.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_00: So, how do you know if it's severed or not?
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_00: It's not so apparent from the outside, and it's not mum shabagali, according to Rabyakiv Rabyasi, Rabysi, you splits it down the middle and he holds in bit this in-between thing, he's gonna tell you like this moh vikatos havi mumma, moch vikatos where it's crushed, that's gonna be considered a mum.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_00: Why del les no?
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_00: Because in the end of the day, it looks like its mom is not there.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_00: If it's crushed up, it's crushed up, that's gonna be noticeable, it's gonna be considered a mum shabagale.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_00: Whereas not to kikaros leave mumma, whereas if it's severed from the inside, it's not gonna be considered a mum de al Isnum, because then the day it's there and it's hanging, and you can't really tell if it's severed or not, and therefore it's not a mum shabagale, but really, this is what's going on, and the whole machis is about whether we consider this a mum shabigoli or not.