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The Right Way to Paint Andersen Windows (and Why Color Rules Aren’t Always Right) · Repcolite Home Improvement Show

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome back to Home in Progress, brought to
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  Speaker 1: you by Repcolite Paints and Benjamin Moore. We've got a
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  Speaker 1: full show planned for today. It's going to be ending
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  Speaker 1: with a paint question from my inbox that I think
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  Speaker 1: a ton of you will relate to. It's about painting
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  Speaker 1: Anderson windows, the ins and outs of that, whether you can,
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  Speaker 1: whether you can't, If you do try it, how do
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  Speaker 1: you handle it. There's a ton of information to dig
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  Speaker 1: into with this question, and we're going to get to
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  Speaker 1: all of that coming up at the end. Before that,
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  Speaker 1: I'll be joined by Chris Hardesty, Senior advice editor at
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  Speaker 1: Cox Automotive, for conversation about car colors, how the shade
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  Speaker 1: you pick can influence resale value, safety, and even how
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  Speaker 1: much work it takes to keep your car looking sharp.
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  Speaker 1: But first Labor Day is officially done, and we all
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  Speaker 1: know what that means. You know, of course, it means
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  Speaker 1: summer's over, people go back to school, But it also
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  Speaker 1: means that it's time to put our favorite white clothes
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  Speaker 1: away for the season. Right, you know, I've got to
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  Speaker 1: pack up my white nineteen seventies vintage leisure suit with
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  Speaker 1: the plunging neckline and the gold piping all around it.
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  Speaker 1: I've got to pack that baby up for the season.
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  Speaker 1: I've got to break out my fall versions, my pumpkin
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  Speaker 1: orange leisure suit or maybe my forest green one or
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  Speaker 1: my Paisley one. All of these things have to come out,
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  Speaker 1: and I've got to put the white one away right
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  Speaker 1: because it's after Labor Day. There's no white after Labor Day,
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  Speaker 1: no white allout. Is that the case, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: but it is something that we've all heard forever. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: it came up in a conversation with some friends over
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  Speaker 1: the weekend and I had one particular friend who joked
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  Speaker 1: that now she's going to get scolded at church every
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  Speaker 1: Sunday for the next few months by all the little
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  Speaker 1: church grandmas because she's still wearing white. And we were
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  Speaker 1: laughing about it, but we did wonder where did the
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  Speaker 1: idea come from? And I did some digging, thinking it'd
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  Speaker 1: be great for the show, and it turns out it's
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  Speaker 1: really interesting and it's not about fashion at all. Really,
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  Speaker 1: it's all about class exclusivity, and it's one of the
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  Speaker 1: cleverest little social traps ever invented, This whole no white
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  Speaker 1: after Labor Day rule. All right, here's the deal. In
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  Speaker 1: the late eighteen hundreds, if you were wealthy, summer's meant
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  Speaker 1: escaping the grimy, dirty cities, you know, filth pots. You
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  Speaker 1: have fled those places and you went to pristine vacation
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  Speaker 1: spots like Newport or the Hampton's, you know, places like that.
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  Speaker 1: And in those places, those fancy places, white clothing was
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  Speaker 1: the perfect choice. You know. It was cool, you know,
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  Speaker 1: not phonsie cool like a you know, but it was.
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  Speaker 1: It was cool temperature wise, you know, it reflected the
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  Speaker 1: heat a little bit, you know, it didn't get us hot.
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  Speaker 1: It was cool phonsie wise. You know, people liked it. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: that person's got money, looking at them wearing white. It
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  Speaker 1: was stylish. It screamed. Its screamed sophistication. Because if you're
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  Speaker 1: walking around in white, it means you've got to be
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  Speaker 1: in spotless surroundings, you know, fancy places. You've got to
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  Speaker 1: have you know, staff or servants or whatever to keep
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  Speaker 1: all your your wardrobe immaculate, you know, and it means
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  Speaker 1: you're living a life of life. You're not working with
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  Speaker 1: your hands, because when we work with our hands, wearing
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  Speaker 1: you know, like a white T shirt around the house
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  Speaker 1: in the summer, you know, sweat stains. That's what's coming.
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  Speaker 1: That's what happens when you wear white and you work
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  Speaker 1: when it's hot. Sweat stains. And these rich people no
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  Speaker 1: sweat stains. You know. That was one of the first
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  Speaker 1: original you know, tests for richness was to just lift
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  Speaker 1: up your arms, hold your arms in the air. No
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  Speaker 1: sweat stains, You got money. I don't know if that's true.
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  Speaker 1: They don't take that one to the bank, but it
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  Speaker 1: could be true. And that's what I'm gonna I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: roll with here. So the cities, let's get back to this.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the fancy places like Newport or the Hamptons,
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  Speaker 1: those are clean. Those are wonderful. The rich people go there.
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  Speaker 1: The city it's a mess. You know, it's a filth pot.
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  Speaker 1: Like I said, the streets are filled with cold dust,
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  Speaker 1: rotting garbage, horse manure everywhere you look, horse manure. You know.
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  Speaker 1: One historian, as I'm doing the research here, called it
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  Speaker 1: a mystery stew of filth. You know, that's the city.
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  Speaker 1: So wearing white back home, you know, in the city
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  Speaker 1: lost cause nobody did it. So when Labor Day made
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  Speaker 1: a federal holiday in eighteen ninety four, When Labor Day
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  Speaker 1: rolled around the elite, the rich, the fancy people would
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  Speaker 1: pack up their white clothes and they'd return to their
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  Speaker 1: filthy cities in darker, more practical clothes. It was a
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  Speaker 1: seasonal rhythm and a signal of status. Now, by the
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  Speaker 1: early nineteen hundreds, the growing middle class and the new
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  Speaker 1: money crowd kind of started copying the elite habits. All right.
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  Speaker 1: They were following the no white after labor Day rule,
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  Speaker 1: and that became a badge of belonging, if that makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: You know, that showed that they were in the group.
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  Speaker 1: They were part of that group. If you broke that rule,
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  Speaker 1: you risked looking like an outsider, like somebody who just
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  Speaker 1: didn't know how society functioned. But here's the fun twist.
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  Speaker 1: The truly wealthy didn't always follow that no white after
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  Speaker 1: labor Day rule. They kind of made the rule and
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  Speaker 1: then they refused to follow it in a lot of instances.
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  Speaker 1: Coco Chanel, for example, she famously wore white year round
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  Speaker 1: she could. Her status was untouchable. While social climbers clung
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  Speaker 1: to the rule, they were absolutely terrified of slipping up,
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  Speaker 1: So it became a trap. The insiders broke it because
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  Speaker 1: they were confident in themselves, they knew what they were doing,
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  Speaker 1: and the outsiders enforced it to try to prove that
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  Speaker 1: they belonged to the group. I mean, it's a mess.
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  Speaker 1: People are crazy, right Anyway, By mid century, Vogue, Harper's
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  Speaker 1: Bizarre fashion magazines, they start reinforcing this seasonal shift, filling
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  Speaker 1: all their fall pages with rich, dark tones. You know,
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  Speaker 1: they're not just reporting on what's happening, they're dictating. They're
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  Speaker 1: trying to dictate fashion. But by then the practical reasons
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  Speaker 1: for the rule were kind of gone. Cities were cleaner
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  Speaker 1: washing machines, They made laundry easier. You didn't need servants anymore.
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  Speaker 1: We all have laundry machines. We can do the cleanup.
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  Speaker 1: But still the pressure remained, you know, especially for the
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  Speaker 1: middle class who's reading those magazines. Well, by the seventies
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  Speaker 1: and the eighties, designers like Halston and Kelvin Klein rejected
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  Speaker 1: the rule altogether. Winter white, that whole idea became chic,
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  Speaker 1: you know. And today, you know, right now we've got
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  Speaker 1: modern etiquette experts saying that the no white after labor
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  Speaker 1: Day rule, that's a thing of the past, completely, a
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  Speaker 1: thing of the past right now. The big thing is
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  Speaker 1: that seasonal fashion is about fabric weight, you know, lightweight
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  Speaker 1: woolf for winter, breatheable cotton for summer. It's not really
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  Speaker 1: about color rules anymore. So I talk about this old
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  Speaker 1: fashion rule on a home improvement show, Well, I'm doing
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  Speaker 1: it because, of course, Labor Day was just here and
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  Speaker 1: we might as well talk about it. I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: to get to talk about it too much longer and
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  Speaker 1: still be timely, So I'm talking about it for that reason,
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  Speaker 1: but also because that no white after Labor Day story
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  Speaker 1: is kind of like a masterclass in how, you know,
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  Speaker 1: rules can control us long after they stopped serving a purpose.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it started as a practical choice, became a
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  Speaker 1: social marker, and it ends up as this psychological trap.
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  Speaker 1: It's a bit of a reminder to question the traditions
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  Speaker 1: that we follow, whether in fashion, design or even life,
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  Speaker 1: you know, take home decorating. Let's just keep it simple,
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  Speaker 1: let's keep it in mind, wheelhouse. How many times have
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  Speaker 1: you heard that you can't use dark colors in a
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  Speaker 1: small space, or that all trims should be white. Well,
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  Speaker 1: these rules, like the no white after labor day rule,
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  Speaker 1: they often come from a specific time in a place.
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  Speaker 1: You know there is probably a practical reason for him
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  Speaker 1: at the time, but today the reasons no longer apply
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  Speaker 1: and you can often break those rules. You know, so
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  Speaker 1: go for some color on your trim, or at least
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  Speaker 1: think about it. You know, think about putting color on
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  Speaker 1: the ceiling. It's definitely going to completely change how you
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  Speaker 1: feel about that room in your house. Mixed metals, mixed
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  Speaker 1: textures and patterns. Don't feel that an open floor plan
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  Speaker 1: means that you can only use one color on the
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  Speaker 1: walls throughout the whole space. You know. Rules can be guides,
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  Speaker 1: but it's important to decide if it serves your vision
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  Speaker 1: for your home or if it's just holding you back.
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  Speaker 1: And if there's no real practical reason for the rule,
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  Speaker 1: consider tossing it out, you know, especially when we're talking
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  Speaker 1: home design. You know, don't let outdated design rules box
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  Speaker 1: you in. You know, trust your instincts to make your
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  Speaker 1: space yours. You know, after all, the best style, whether
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  Speaker 1: in fashion or design or home design, what the best
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  Speaker 1: fashion is the kind that reflects who you are now
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  Speaker 1: what somebody else says you should be. And by all means,
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  Speaker 1: if you need any help with any of that, stop
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  Speaker 1: by your closest Repcolite. We've got color experts on hand.
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  Speaker 1: We can walk you through everything, Bring your pictures, bring
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  Speaker 1: your fabrics. Will help you find colors that will work
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  Speaker 1: in your space, and we'll throw all those rules away
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  Speaker 1: if we need to to get you where you want
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  Speaker 1: to go. All right, speaking of color choices and all
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  Speaker 1: of the rules that go with colors, have you ever
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  Speaker 1: thought about how much impact the color of your car
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  Speaker 1: can have on resale value, safety, durability, maintenance, even the
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  Speaker 1: number of times law enforcement pulls you over. Well we're
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  Speaker 1: going to dig into all of that right after. This
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  Speaker 1: next project is way easier than you think it's going
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  Speaker 1: to be. You know, when we're shopping for a car,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of us, you know, most of us are
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  Speaker 1: usually thinking about things like make, model, mileage, But I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how many of us really think about color
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  Speaker 1: more than just personal taste. You know, which color do
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  Speaker 1: I like? And honestly, I don't even know about that.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of the times when I'm looking for a car,
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  Speaker 1: I've got to find everything lined up money wise and
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  Speaker 1: all of that, and if I can tolerate the color,
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  Speaker 1: I'll pick it. But it turns out color can impact,
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  Speaker 1: you know, not just the resale value of the car,
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  Speaker 1: which is something I hadn't thought about in the past,
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  Speaker 1: but safety, upkeep, all of those things. It's very surprising
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  Speaker 1: how much color plays into all of it. While today
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking with Chris Hardesty, who wrote a great article
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  Speaker 1: about all of this stuff and I ran into it
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  Speaker 1: on autotrader dot com. Now, Chris is a senior advice
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  Speaker 1: editor for Cox Automotive, producing consumer focused content for Kelly
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  Speaker 1: Bluebook and Auto Trader on car buying, selling, safety, features, maintenance,
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  Speaker 1: all of that stuff. He spent nearly three decades in newspapers,
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  Speaker 1: leading research departments at The Mercury News and News Day. Later,
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  Speaker 1: he went to serve as the how to Guides editor
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  Speaker 1: at the Wall Street Journal. He lives in Metro Atlanta
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  Speaker 1: with his wife and two young kids, and when I
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  Speaker 1: reached out to him about coming on the show, he
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  Speaker 1: said he was more than happy to do so. So, Chris,
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  Speaker 1: thanks for.
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  Speaker 2: Being here, Thanks for having me, Dan, I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: Well. I'm excited to talk about this first off, because
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  Speaker 1: it's it's got the paint connection and that's really kind
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  Speaker 1: of fun. So I'm excited to get into this and
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  Speaker 1: right now, I guess let's just start right at the
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  Speaker 1: top with you know, the color. It's not just an
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  Speaker 1: esthetic decision. It's not just a choice, you know, a
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  Speaker 1: personal choice, or at least it's not something that I
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  Speaker 1: should just think of as something that matches my personal taste.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to affect resale value. You know, some of
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  Speaker 1: that's obvious, but let's dig into that right off the
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  Speaker 1: bat Well.
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  Speaker 2: Color is certainly important for the aesthetics and what you
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  Speaker 2: like to see. It's the first thing that you notice
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  Speaker 2: when you see a car, but there are all these
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  Speaker 2: other considerations that come into play. You know, you touch
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  Speaker 2: on a lot of things, safety and upkeep and resale value.
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  Speaker 2: We can start off with the resale value, and that
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  Speaker 2: is kind of a wonky sort of thing because you've
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  Speaker 2: got you know, supply and demand issues come into play.
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  Speaker 2: So you think, well, if I've got all of these
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  Speaker 2: white cars and all these black cars and all these
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  Speaker 2: gray cars, if there's a great supply of those, and
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  Speaker 2: those prices should be lower, when in fact, some of
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  Speaker 2: these you know, unusual hues, they might have a lower
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  Speaker 2: resale value even though there's fewer of them because there's
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  Speaker 2: a limited market for those colors. There are fewer people
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  Speaker 2: who want a purple car, for example. On the other hand,
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  Speaker 2: if you want a purple car, you might be willing
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  Speaker 2: to pay more for that purple car.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, that's that's kind of crazy if you can
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  Speaker 1: find the right buyer kind of right now.
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  Speaker 2: If you find the right buyer, then they're they're going
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  Speaker 2: to be willing to pay for that purple car or
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  Speaker 2: that pink car. That notion is good for people who
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  Speaker 2: are selling their car individually to you through a private sale.
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  Speaker 2: If you're trading in your car at a dealership, the dealer
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  Speaker 2: is going to be less willing to pay more money
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  Speaker 2: for that trade in because he's going to have to
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  Speaker 2: find the person who's willing to buy the purple car
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  Speaker 2: or the pink car or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Am I going to run into a struggle trading it
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  Speaker 1: in to get even the normal value that I would expect?
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  Speaker 1: Or am I going to get that? But I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to get more than that?
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  Speaker 2: Is that what you're saying, No, you likely will get less.
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  Speaker 1: I'll get less, it'll go lower because it's an unusual
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  Speaker 1: color and he's going to have a harder time selling
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  Speaker 1: it correct.
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  Speaker 2: One of the nice features on Kelly Bluebooks website KBB
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  Speaker 2: dot com, which is another Cox automotive company, is a
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  Speaker 2: calculator of sorts that will find your car's value and
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  Speaker 2: what's my car worth? And you go through a series
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  Speaker 2: of questions with putting in the make and model or
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  Speaker 2: the year making model, and then how many miles you
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  Speaker 2: have on it, and what the color is. And if
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  Speaker 2: you do that as I have done in the past,
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  Speaker 2: for just say a twenty twenty two Honda Civic, if
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  Speaker 2: you put in the you know, identify it as a
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  Speaker 2: color purple and get that value, it's going to be
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  Speaker 2: several hundred dollars less than the value of the trade
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  Speaker 2: in that is white, because there's a many more people
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  Speaker 2: who would want a white car or as opposed to
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  Speaker 2: the purple car. So it could be you know, a
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  Speaker 2: matter of several hundred dollars or you know, maybe more
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  Speaker 2: in some cases, and for some vehicles it might not matter. So,
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  Speaker 2: like everything with buying a car, there's so many considerations.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you can have some funky colors in Jeep
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  Speaker 1: and that that can work out just fine, right or
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  Speaker 1: am I wrong on that?
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  Speaker 2: No, you're correct. A couple of years ago or a
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  Speaker 2: few years ago now, Jeep introduced a Tuscadero pink I
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  Speaker 2: believe is what it was called. And it's this big
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  Speaker 2: pink jeep. And you know what, I want a big
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  Speaker 2: pink Jeep. No, but somebody may and they're willing to
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  Speaker 2: pay for it. And so it gets to that thing again.
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  Speaker 2: If you can find the right person willing to pay
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  Speaker 2: for it, they might pay a premium for them. And
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  Speaker 2: with the tuscularo pink jeep, you know, a dealer might
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  Speaker 2: recognize that there is, you know, a market for that
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  Speaker 2: somewhere and pay or give some sort of premium for it.
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  Speaker 2: But in general, those sorts of funky colors are you know,
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  Speaker 2: something that the general population would you know, kind of
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  Speaker 2: steer away from.
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  Speaker 1: Now. I think the people who do buy these funkier
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  Speaker 1: colors tend to hang on to them longer. Right. I
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  Speaker 1: finally secured my whatever mustard yellow metallic dream car, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to trade that in as quickly. So
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  Speaker 1: there is that aspect of things when I finally secure
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  Speaker 1: this crazy color that I wanted. The people don't aren't
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  Speaker 1: looking for that resale as quickly, right, that's right.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, the car depreciation is something that all
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  Speaker 2: car buyers should, you know, think about, and the depreciation
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  Speaker 2: on those cars that have funky colors is going to
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  Speaker 2: be a little bit sharper. However, that doesn't necessarily matter
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  Speaker 2: to the buyer of that mustard yellow metallic car because hey,
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  Speaker 2: that's their car, and that's the car that they like,
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  Speaker 2: and that's the color they like, and it appeals to
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  Speaker 2: them and they want to continue driving it, So gotcha.
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  Speaker 2: For some people, the resale value doesn't really matter because
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  Speaker 2: they don't intend to sell it.
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  Speaker 1: Sell it as quickly. So what I'm hearing is that black, white, silver,
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  Speaker 1: you know, those are safe bats when it comes to
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  Speaker 1: resell value all of that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, if resale value is the main thing, then you know,
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  Speaker 2: those neutral colors are you know, the way to go,
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  Speaker 2: The boulder colors that make more of a statement. Those
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  Speaker 2: are the ones that are going to be fine if
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  Speaker 2: that's going to be your car for the next six, seven,
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  Speaker 2: eight years. But the safe bet are those the white
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  Speaker 2: and the gray and the black. Anything neutral is going
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  Speaker 2: to be better.
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  Speaker 1: Let's shift a little bit, because there's a lot more
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  Speaker 1: involved with color than just just the re sale. And
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  Speaker 1: one of the most surprising things in your article that
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  Speaker 1: I found is that certain colors are link to higher
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  Speaker 1: accident risk.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, there was a study done by I think it
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  Speaker 2: was a university in Australia that looked at accident rates
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  Speaker 2: and car color, and the gist of it was that
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  Speaker 2: dark colors are more prone to accidents, and I think
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  Speaker 2: it was you know, black cars have are twelve percent
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: more likely to have an accident than say a white car,
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: and that all has to do with visibility because even
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: you know, a lot goes into play with many accidents.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: You know, driving conditions and you know driver attention and
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: speed and ability and all this sort of thing. But
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: one of the primary causes of accidents is visibility. You know.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: That's why a lot of cars have you know, driver
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: with their headlights headlights automatically turn on now and motorcycles
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: have done that for years to just increase the visibility.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: But it's just harder to see a black car or
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: a dark gray car, and that leads them to have
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: more accidents. I think red was also kind of high
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: in that list, and dark red is also harder to see.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: Some people associate, you know, red with being fast, and
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: you know, fast cars lead to accidents. You know, that
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: might have something to do with it, but it also
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: might have to do with the you know, the driving
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: habits of people who drive red cars.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: You know, but so many little things involved that I
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: wouldn't even think about. So if safety is a major priority,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: what's the safest or smartest colored choice? White?
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: White would be good, Anything bright like a yellow would
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: be fine. But then you get into the you know,
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: the reso value of.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: I'll be safe when I'm in it, but I'm never
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: going to be able to sell it. That's right, Okay, okay,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: shifting gears a little bit. Let's talk about maintenance. Are
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: there certain colors that are harder to keep clean, harder
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: to keep looking good than other colors?
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that has to do with a number of things.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: One of them is just the way light hits the
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: paint and the dirt and everything else that's on top
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: of it. White cars, you know, on one hand, you
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: might your instinct might be, oh, well, white car is
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: going to show dirt. Well no, actually, a white car
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: kind of makes dirt kind of subdued. Whereas a black
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: car you know, shows you know, dust and pollen and
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: all this sort of thing, and it all has to
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: do with the light refracting, and you might have more
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: knowledge of that since you're the paint guy, and how
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: light reflects off of colors to you know, so that
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: we see them. But the characteristics of different colors can
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: cause swirls in paint. Darker colors, you might notice that
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: you're at a stoplight in the car next to you,
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: if the sun's shining down on it, you might see
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: little swirls or spider web looking things, and those, you know,
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: very very light and delicate scratches are reflected in the
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: sunlight and it just makes it more pronounced.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: And that's on darker cars.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: On black, yeah, yeah, black, blue, red cars could show that,
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: you know, so the scratches and swirl marks, and some
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: colors are more prone to fading also, well, I.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Know we struggle with that, will struggle with that. But reds,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: there's certain colors just the colorants that the pigments that
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: have to be used to create those just don't resist
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: the UV terribly.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, so I don't know the science behind it,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: but I do know that the reds and oranges are
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: more prone to the fading. And this is you know,
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: over time. So if if you are the type of
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: person who trades your car every few years or every
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: five years or whatever, not going to be you might
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: not need to worry about that, but it can become
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: an issue in the in the resale market. If you
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: step into a car lot, you see this red car,
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: but it's not white as brilliant as it you know,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: was when it came off the showroom. Whereas this you know,
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: gray car that's the same age, it might kind of
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: look the same as it did, you know, X number
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: of years ago. And you know, with the average age
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: of a car on the road is you know, twelve
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: point eight years old, so that's a lot of time
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: to be sitting out in the sun. White cars can
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: have their own problems too.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about those problems. We've covered everybody else's problems.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: The white cars kind of skated by so far.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, the white you know, white cars are very popular.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: You know, we see hundreds of them every day, depending
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: on where you you know, where you're driving, how much
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: you drive. But many of them look very nice in
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: pristine But then you can run into some models that
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: just have these big chunks of missing paint and it
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: knows when once you start seeing it, you know, some
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: of your listeners might say, what, what's what's that guy
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: talking about. Well, once they see one, they're going to
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: start seeing you know, many more, right, Uh. And that
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: that has to do with a lot of reasons. Uh.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: There have even been some class action lawsuits uh with
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: automakers regarding the paint durability of this white paint. And
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: there are all sorts of theories about why this happens. Uh.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Some has to do with the you know, lack of
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: pigment and requiring more coats of of the paint. And
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: then you know, more coats, the more coatings you have,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: the more chances you have for you know, defects and
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: these effects can can you know kind of you know
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: snowball into just these big, you know, chunks of paint
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: falling off of the off of the car. It's noticeable
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: a lot on like work trucks, work fans you know
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: that you see run around a roofers truck or a
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: plumber's truck and you see, you know, they're often white
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: and you see the big chunks of paint and that
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: that might have to do with just general maintenance and
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: upkeep of the exterior. And it could be that, hey,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: this is my work truck. I don't need to take
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: it to be washed.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I don't need to somebody else wax on it.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: And right, yeah, but you know, if you keeping your
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: car clean, just like many other many other things in
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: your in your life, if you keep it clean, it's
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: going to help protect it. You know, you've got a
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: clear coat, and if you've got you know, you wax
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: the car, it's going to keep all these impurities from
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: gathering on to the paint and you know, diminishing the
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: effectiveness of the clear coat and all that any other
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: protectan you have on there. And so if that, if
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: it's neglected and not washed and waxed regularly, then the
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: paint is going to be not as strong as it
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: should be, and then it just starts to get messed up.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: When you're buying your car, your personal car, what are
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: you thinking about? What are you wane and what colors
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: are you picking?
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm looking for something that doesn't stand out. I
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: you know, I don't want to have big, a stunning
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: look on my minivan. I just want to blend in.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: You know, I would want to consider the resale value
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: of the trade, and value certainly the safety since I'm
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: toning around children and other people's children, and also the
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: maintenance costs. I you know, Yeah, I want to keep
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: a clean car, and I know that keeping the exterior
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: clean is going to you know, it should be just
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: part of the regular maintenance. It's going to you know,
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: optimize the the longevity of the of the finish so
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: safety wise, you know, it is. I do have a
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: black minivan, but I don't really drive at night, so
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: I'm not as concerned about the visibility at night time.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Talk about the red thing though, You mentioned that, and
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: I've always been curious about it, I guess, being naive,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: I've always written it off as a little bit of
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: an urban legend. But the whole idea about red is
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: that more likely, truly more likely to be pulled over
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: by the police. You mentioned something about more accidents, and
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: you thought maybe people who buy a red car associate
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: that with driving faster, is what I'm assuming.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I you know, and this is just my speculation.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: That study that was done didn't necessarily take into the
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: take into account the reasons why people had those color cars.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: It was just these color cars. And so if it
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: was seven percent or red cars were seven percent more
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: likely to be in an accident, Is that, you know,
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: because of the visibility or is it because of the
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: driving habits of the people who buy red cars? So
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: could it be that the people who drive red cars
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: are more prone to driving faster? Or is it that
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: you know, the highway patrol officer is more notices that
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: vehicle and and then you know, does his you know,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: his radar radars.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Okay, it's just that he sees it quicker. Yeah, it's more.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: It just it's more in your face. It's it's right there.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Like you said, you want to blend in. You don't
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: want to have that that car that stands out. You
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: could think it could be just that it stands out.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: It could be it'd be I wonder now if there
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: have been any real studies done or if it is
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: just urban legend abount the you know, the red cars
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: being stopped. But then you'd have to get into the
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: what proportion of red cars make up the entire Uh?
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because their.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Population, you know, because there you know, there are you
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: know a couple of paint companies have done. You know,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: they've done studies on the most popular paint colors that
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: we've talked about. You know, the black, there's neutral, or
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: they're black and the gray and the white and silver,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: but then blue is coming up and so but anyway,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: it'd be interesting to see what the of all automobiles
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: are red and then compare that to the number of
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: cars that are stopped. And then you have to, you know,
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: think about, well, why were they stopped? Was it because
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: the officer noticed them? Was it because the people who
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: bought the red car tend to drive faster?
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: So many questions. I mean, really we could keep going,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: We're not going to be able to get to all
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: the answers. Color it has a way bigger impact than
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: what we think about, you know, just when we're looking
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: for our favorite color on the lot, keep in mind
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: all the different things, the fact that resell value is
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: going to be affected by the colors you choose one
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: way or the other, safety, even down to cleaning the vehicle. Chris,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: if our listeners want to get more info, they want
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: to find more of your work, how do they find that?
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: They can visit autotrader dot com for for some of
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: my stuff and They can visit KBB dot com Kelly
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Bluebook's website to read more.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Thanks for hanging out, Thanks for talking about car colors
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: and all of that stuff. Thanks Dan, I appreciate it.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: All Right. Let's say you've got Anderson windows. Can you
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: repaint them? What do you need to do? How do
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: you figure out which Anderson windows you've got? You know
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: what surfaces can be painted, what surfaces can't, and if
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: you can paint them, how in the world do you
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: go about doing that? What are the steps? Well? I
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: got that question this past week from a listener and
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: we're going to dig into all the answers right after this.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: This is home in progress where the to do list
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: is long, and that's all right. We're not crabbing at you.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: We're not going to yell at you. That's how it is.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: It's how ours is to It's probably supported by repcoal
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: like paints and Benjamin Moore because home projects are easier
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: when you've got people you can trust. All Right, I
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: want to dive into a paint question that I received
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: this past week or so, and right off the bat,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Before I do that, I want to let all of
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: you know that you can send your paint questions to
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: radio at repcoal Light dot com. So send your paint design,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: you know, all kinds of questions like that, send them
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: to radio at Repcolite dot com and I'll dig into
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: them and i'll get you your answers. But also, if
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: I use your question on the air, like I'm doing
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: with this one right now, I'll send you a fifty
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: dollars gift certificate to Repcolite. So please, if you've got
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: a question that's stumping you, a paint question, reach out
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: radio at Repcolight dot com. All right, with that said,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: let's get to the question that I've got for today.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: A customer emailed last week and wondered whether or not
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: he could paint his nineteen nineties Anderson windows. Now, at
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: first glance, this sounds like a super simple, straightforward question.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: But when I dug into it a little bit, you know,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: to make sure that I was giving out the best
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: information possible, the absolute best. I mean, is there anything
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: else that you would expect from this show? As I
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: was digging into it, I found it's a little loaded.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot going on here, and we'll
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: get to all of that as we work through the question.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: But The place to start with all of this is
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: to just figure out what kind of material you're dealing with,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: And right off the bat, I do want to say
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: that if you don't have Anderson windows but you are
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: wondering about the possible ability of repainting them, most of
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: this info is going to apply to you as well.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: You know, you're just gonna have to dig into the
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: info with the manufacturer of your windows, but most of
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: what I'm gonna say is going to apply anyway. We're
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: going to stick with Anderson as a manufacturer for this
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: conversation because that's what my customer is dealing with now.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Like most window manufacturers, Anderson has made windows, you know,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: throughout the years from just about everything you know, wood, vinyl, aluminum, cladding, fiberglass,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: They've even got a Fibrex composite. You know, a lot
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: of different things, and each one of these materials behaves
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: differently or somewhat differently when it comes to paint. So
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: that's why it's important to figure out what exactly you're
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: dealing with now. The easiest way to know for sure
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: if you've got an Anderson window is to hop on
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: their website, and they've got to find my window tool
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: where you basically punch in some details the style, approximate age,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: even serial numbers, stuff like that, if you can find them,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: and it will tell you what you're working with, what
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: kind of window you've got, and what kind of materials
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: were used. But let's say you don't have that, you
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: can still play detective and it's really not that tricky.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: You know, you don't have to be Columbo here to
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: figure it out. You know, wood is going to look
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: and feel like wood. Vinyl is smooth, it's got welded corners.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Fiberglass is going to feel harder and more rigid than
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: vinyl and aluminum. You know, it's metal and you should
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: know it when you touch it. So head to Anderson's
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: website if you've got Anderson windows, or do the detective
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: work if you've got another brand. But figure out what
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: you're working with. That's the first step. Now, once you
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: know that, can you paint the windows? All right? Here's
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: what Anderson says on their website. If you're dealing with
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: wood interiors, absolutely paint away, you know, just clean them, scuff,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: sand them, prime where you need to, and top coat
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: with a good interior trim paint you know, that's great.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: If you've got vinyl exteriors, what can you do, well,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Anderson says, don't do it. They explain that the paint
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: doesn't naturally bond to the vinyl and painting them will
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: void your warranty. All right, What if you've got aluminum
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: cladding on the exterior of the windows. Well, in this instance,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Anderson is super crystal clear. Their aluminum clad products can't
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: be painted. According to their website, it's not a matter
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: of shouldn't be painted, but a matter of can't be painted.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Their factory finish is specially designed to resist paint adhesion.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: So that's the official line that Anderson gives you, and
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: it kind of leaves you without a lot of options.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: But in the real world, because that's where we live,
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: right in the real world, after twenty five or thirty
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: years of UV exposure, you know, those factory coatings that
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: were designed to resist paint, they've all broken down a bit.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: You know, the surface gets rougher, it becomes more porous,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: and suddenly the paint has something to grab onto. You know,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: they're giving you those statements and those those answers on
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: their website because they don't know who they're dealing with.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: You know, they don't well that sounds crazy. They don't
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: know what situation your windows are in. They don't know
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: that their old win windows. They're warning you don't don't
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: paint your new windows. You know you've got a color
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: you don't like. Don't throw a new color on a
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: new window. The aluminum cladding or whatever, it's going to
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: resist it. But for somebody who's got thirty year old windows,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: there's a lot you can do. I was just talking
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: to a contractor the other day who painted his nineteen nineties,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: same situation Anderson Vinyl windows. He painted them like fifteen
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: years ago, I think it was, and he just had
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: to repaint them again recently. You know. He said, no
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: major paint failures, and while he's voided his warranty, he's
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: been really happy with the results. Now for the customer
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: who just emailed me, his windows are also from the
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: early nineties, and I really can't imagine that the warranty
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: at this point is really that big of a concern.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: You know, it's not the big thing anymore. The bigger
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: concern is just making the windows look good again. And
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: if that's the case, if that's the situation you find
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: yourself in, you can absolutely paint most of these surfaces. Now,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: one quick thing to think about before we jump into everything.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: You know, if you've got vinyl windows, I'll explain how
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: you can paint them, but just remember that painting the
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: vinyl windows is going to turn them into a maintenance
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: issue down the road. You're just going to have to
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: refresh that paint from time to time. Vinyl's main benefit
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: is its low maintenance. If the windows are dingy, it's
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: possible that just a good cleaning could refresh them, but
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: that doesn't always work. And if that doesn't work in
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: your situation, or maybe you've got a darker color Vinyl
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: that you'd like to lighten up, then you can paint
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: them all right, whether you've got vinyl or aluminum cladding
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  Speaker 1: on those windows, you do need to make sure that
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  Speaker 1: you do the right prep work to get the best results.
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  Speaker 1: So start with a deep clean TSP, a TSP substitute
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  Speaker 1: something like that. That'll work great for cutting through decades of chalking,
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  Speaker 1: oxidation and grime that builds up on these older windows.
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  Speaker 1: So get that mixed up with water and then scrub
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  Speaker 1: the surface with a maroon Scotch bright pad. We sell
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  Speaker 1: these little things at Repcolite, and they'll upbraid the surface
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  Speaker 1: a small amount as you wash it. Now, if you
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  Speaker 1: do have mold or mildew or anything like that, you're
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  Speaker 1: going to want to make sure that you get a
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  Speaker 1: mold or mildew cleaner and deal with that. You know,
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of bleach diluted with water. Be careful
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  Speaker 1: around plants and all of that stuff, but you got
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  Speaker 1: to kill mold and mildew. So make sure you wash everything.
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  Speaker 1: Once you've done that and you let it dry, do
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  Speaker 1: a quick scuff sanding, probably with like a two twenty
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  Speaker 1: grit sandpaper. Rinse that really well and then let it dry. Now,
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  Speaker 1: once you've done that, brushed the surface with your hand
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  Speaker 1: to make sure there's no chalky residue still remaining on
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  Speaker 1: the vinyl or the aluminum cladding. Now, if there isn't,
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  Speaker 1: then you're good to go. But if there is some
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  Speaker 1: chalky residue, you know, you see some chalky residue on
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  Speaker 1: your palm after wiping the window frames, then you do
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  Speaker 1: need to reclean those surfaces. You know that really stinks,
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  Speaker 1: but that chalkiness has to be completely removed or your
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  Speaker 1: paint's going to bond to that and it's going to
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  Speaker 1: fail later. All right, Assuming the surface is clean when
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  Speaker 1: you rub it with your hand, and assuming you're dealing
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  Speaker 1: with vinyl windows or aluminum cladding, you may want to
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  Speaker 1: prime them with a bonding primer, you know, something like sticks.
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  Speaker 1: We talk about sticks a lot. It's a Benjamin More product.
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  Speaker 1: It's made to bond difficult surfaces. It will work interior
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  Speaker 1: or exterior, and it'd be great in this situation. Now,
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  Speaker 1: priming isn't absolutely necessary in a situation like this, but
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna give you your best protection against failure down
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  Speaker 1: the road, So I'd probably recommend it. But you know
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  Speaker 1: your situation is yours, and we can work some of
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  Speaker 1: those details out in the store when you come in
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  Speaker 1: for your paint. Now, once it's primed, just go to
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  Speaker 1: your high quality exterior acrylic finish paint, Reptolites and Dura exterior,
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  Speaker 1: Benjamin Moore's Regal or Aura exteriors, even Benjamin Moore's Element Guard,
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  Speaker 1: all of those are great options. So that'll get your
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  Speaker 1: windows painted and refreshed. But I mentioned earlier that there
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: was a lot going on with this question. Turns out
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  Speaker 1: there's one more thing to think about, especially with vinyl
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  Speaker 1: color matters. I don't have time to go deeply into
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  Speaker 1: it because I've got to wrap this up real soon.
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  Speaker 1: But don't go with a darker color than what you
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  Speaker 1: previously had on those windows. Black, which is becoming more
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  Speaker 1: and more popular on windows, can literally absorb so much
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  Speaker 1: heat that it can can destroy the vinyl windows. You know,
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  Speaker 1: vinyl starts to soften and warp around one hundred and
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  Speaker 1: sixty degrees, and in direct sunlight, a dark painted vinyl
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  Speaker 1: frame can hit over two hundred and twenty degrees, and
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  Speaker 1: that can make the frame's bow and warp. Seals can break,
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  Speaker 1: locks can stop lining up, and so on. It's not
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  Speaker 1: just a theory. There are documented cases of this happening.
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  Speaker 1: How common is it. I don't know about that. I
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  Speaker 1: know what happens with vinyl siding can happen. I guess
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  Speaker 1: my route here is to just take the safest way,
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  Speaker 1: the most responsible way possible, and try to avoid using
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  Speaker 1: a color that could potentially warp windows or warp the vinyl.
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  Speaker 1: You know, so you're looking at using a color that's
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  Speaker 1: as light or lighter than the original color. And I
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  Speaker 1: know in most situations. That's probably going to mean that
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  Speaker 1: you're working with white, and that might seem a little boring.
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  Speaker 1: You wanted to make a color change, but making that
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  Speaker 1: color change could be problematic, It could be catastrophic, and
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  Speaker 1: none of us want that on our conscience. So I
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  Speaker 1: would encourage you to probably think think twice about that
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  Speaker 1: before you jump in and put another color up there.
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  Speaker 1: Stick with white and you won't be dealing with any
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  Speaker 1: potential warping issues down the road. All right, I know
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  Speaker 1: I ran through a lot of steps. I've got a
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  Speaker 1: blog post about this at repcoll Light dot com. You
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  Speaker 1: can check it out. And remember, if you've got a
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  Speaker 1: question like that, you know, any kind of paint question
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  Speaker 1: and you want to get fifty bucks, just send the
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  Speaker 1: to do it for today's episode of Home in Progress,
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