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S6 240. Karin Wilkinson - Carly - Raising Saints in a World of Serpents & Simulations · Millennial Mustard Seed

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  at, is not against each other, it's against these
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  places. It's really worthwhile to read
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  the Bible yourself. Fear is one of the primary
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  drivers of mind control because we have to take every thought
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  captive and resist fear. You're going to have a testimony
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  that is a justice case against the Kingdom of darkness.
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  Welcome back Music to the MMSI am Rod Smith, your creator and
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  producer, and I got a awesome episode for you guys today.
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  Carly sits down with Karen Wilkinson, author of Stolen
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  Seed, Evil Harvest, and they peel back the veil on alien
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  abductions, hybridization programs, spiritual deceptions,
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  and the church's failure to equip believers for what's
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  really happening. Karen talks a bit about her
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  childhood experience with non human entities, how she came to
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  understand them through a biblical lens, and why the
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  church must start teaching the entire council of God's Word
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  starting in Genesis 6, Genesis 3.
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  And the threads go far and they're very explanatory
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  throughout the entire word, these spiritual mechanics and
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  how to pray with authority. It's imperative that we
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  understand this as the body of Christ.
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  A little bit of what Karen unpacks on this episode is the
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  legal structure of the spirit realm and how the enemy exploits
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  it. The spiritual implications of
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  alien abductions and hybrid entities.
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  Is it possible that witches can get results from calling on
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  Jesus and Christians don't? Fascinating question.
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  The supernatural design of Earth as a protection from the
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  following beings and parenting children into discernment in a
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  world of deception. Walking by faith in the AI
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  illusion. Counterfeit miracles in the
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  hybrid infiltration. Karen was originally on with me
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  for episode 195. I titled that hybrids.
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  They abducted me in Strange, Pennsylvania.
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  You guys should definitely go listen to that one as soon as
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  you're done with this episode. And Karen spent some time in
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  Pennsylvania, which me and her discover live on air during that
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  first episode 195. And we have some research and
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  we're looking into certain things that are very peculiar
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  about the Pennsylvania location where so many prominent people
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  within the fringe community come from.
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  So keep your eyes open because in the near future, me and Karen
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  with a list of others may be working on that very topic.
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  Let's go. Let's.
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  Go Welcome to the Millennial Mustard Seed Podcast.
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  I have Karen Wilkinson here today, author of Stolen Seed,
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  Evil Harvest. Thank you for joining us today,
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  Karen. How are you?
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  Hi, Carly. Thank you.
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  It's an honor and a pleasure to be here with you today.
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  I'm doing great, definitely having a great day because I get
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  to spend time with you and talk about all these great subjects.
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  So I'm doing great. How are you?
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  I am blessed. I'm I'm very glad to be here as
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  well. It's been a couple weeks of
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  anticipating this conversation and I have no doubt that the
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  Lord will use it for his good and for his glory.
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  So you've been on the Millennial Mustard Seed podcast before,
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  which is awesome and people can find your work by just Googling
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  your name. Go on YouTube, see the plethora
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  of conversations you've had about your book Stolen Seed,
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  Evil Harvest. So if anybody is interested, and
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  I'm sure you are to go back and go through the volumes of
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  material that she has, definitely start with the
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  interviews on Millennial Must receive podcast first.
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  But Karen, in case this is somebody's first introduction to
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  you, I would love just a brief overview of the book, the story
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  that your experience that you are writing about in that, and
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  then we'll continue on. Great.
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  OK, thank you. Yes, you can find me at
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  karenwilkinsonauthor.com. I am setting up a YouTube
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  channel. It's out there now again under
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  Karen Wilkinson, author. There are some other Karen
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  Wilkinsons out there, so if you have trouble finding it, don't
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  worry. We will be putting a link on the
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  social media and the website. So if you can't find it, those
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  links will be up soon and we'll be linking interviews like this
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  one. So you'll be able to find this
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  and any past interviews that I can link also.
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  And it just makes it easier for people to find the information
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  because all of our conversations like this one, you know, the
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  best ones are the organic conversations.
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  And we are not talking about the same things over and over again.
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  So you can find my information there.
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  The book is currently exclusively@lamarzulli.com or
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  lamarzulli.net. Again, those links are on all of
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  my socials and my website. We are working on Audible and
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  Kindle right now. Hopefully we'll get out on
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  Amazon too. And so there's where that's
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  where you can find me right now. The book is, this is my first
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  book. I'm working on the second one
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  now, but this book is about my lifetime of experiences, the
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  things that have happened to me over my lifetime, the things
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  that I remember from being taken by what people like to call
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  aliens. We call them non human, alien
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  entities, non human intelligence.
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  And you know, there's still such a stigma around it that at first
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  glance, when you say that some people just shy away.
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  I get 2 reactions. I either get oh, or I get oh,
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  I'm so that's so cool. I'm really interested.
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  I've had experiences and so it is written from a biblical
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  perspective and that's what makes this book fairly unique is
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  that when I wrote this book, I didn't expect to write this, but
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  I had shared my experiences with LA Marzulli several years ago.
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  I didn't expect that to go anywhere.
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  I just suddenly felt the leading by the Lord to share my
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  experiences and it ended up in his documentary in the fourth in
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  his UFO series, and then a couple of others in that series.
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  And he encouraged me to write this book.
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  So I did. And it was written from a
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  biblical perspective because I didn't see anything else out
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  there from that perspective talking about who and what these
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  things are and where is that in the Bible?
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  How does the Bible explain these things?
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  You know, I've had so many people say, how do you justify
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  your faith with this? How do you justify that?
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  I'm like very easily, because these things, this information
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  is in the Bible from Genesis to Revelation.
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  It's all throughout God's holy word.
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  But the problem I was running into is that the churches don't
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  teach that. And so one of the reasons for
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  writing this book and for being a part of LA Marzulli's ministry
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  is that there need to be more voices in this darkness sharing
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  this truth. So that is a quick summary of
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  who I am and why I wrote this book and why I'm continuing to
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  write and and do these things. Yeah, a much needed
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  conversation. I love that we're starting to
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  talk about some term, the woo or the paranormal experiences,
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  abductions, near death experience, all these things
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  that have been taboo for so long in terms of the biblical
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  worldview. Because you're right, we serve a
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  very supernatural God. Everything about it is woo.
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  And if we try to, you know, dilute it into a very palatable
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  Western mindset, we lose so much of the power.
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  We lose so much of the opportunity to engage with God
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  beyond the doing and the box checking and the Pharisee
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  mindset. And if we have a world full of
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  people who've experienced things and they're waking up to those
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  things, no matter what those things are, we don't have
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  answers as the church, What are they going to do?
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  They're going to think that they're aliens, are their
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  brothers and we came from Pleiades, or all those other
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  ideas that everything is just simply frequency that's benign
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  and has no inner intent or whatever becomes this universal
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  mindset. Can you share a little bit about
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  what your journey was in that space of taking it from your
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  experience and seeking the Lord about it and all kind of that
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  hardship that came in that space?
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  I'm sure there were struggles with truth and lies, and do you
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  want to talk a little bit about that?
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  Oh, absolutely, yeah. You know, I did not understand
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  the correlation between who and what these beings are and how it
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  intertwined with my faith, where that connection was.
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  I was first, you know, I was brought up in a Christian home.
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  I went to church. I knew who God was.
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  I knew who Jesus was. But it was a very kind of
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  simplistic approach to learning about the Bible and God and
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  Jesus and everything. And then when I was around 18
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  years old, I was born again, gave my life to the Lord with my
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  roommates who IA couple of them understood that and what that
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  entailed of accepting Jesus as my Lord and Savior, accepting
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  that, you know, he died on the cross and was born again.
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  And I knew these things, but I did not understand the full, the
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  fullness of really giving up my life for him as he gave his to
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  me and allowing him to come into my life and make me a new
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  person, you know, surrendering to him in every possible way.
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  And so after that happened, you know, I started, I started to
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  learn so much more about, about God, about the his word, about
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  his love and his grace and his mercy.
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  But what I didn't learn was the correlation still between these
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  entities and what was happening to me and, and God and Jesus and
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  the Bible. And so while the abductions
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  stopped for a period of time, I didn't understand even exactly
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  why they had stopped. Just, you know, I was under such
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  a hedge of protection at that time.
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  But then I fell away and my falling away, you know, I got
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  married to someone who was not a Christian, who did not believe
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  the way I did. And it was just, you know, I was
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  so new in my walk and it was just, I just fell away.
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  And during that time, everything just started back up again and
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  continued on, you know, until much, much later in life.
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  And I, I kind of went back and forth.
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  I never obviously lost my desire to be with the Lord.
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  I never lost my love for God and Jesus.
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  But I just did not walk a Christian walk.
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  I did not walk that walk that, you know, that he wanted me to
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  have. And, and I was learning.
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  Obviously it was, it was a long and painful process because I
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  was not listening. And, and that's a hard thing to
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  do, you know, and I learned a lot of lessons over over a lot
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  of years, over and over again, some of the same lessons because
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  when you don't learn, you have to go back and do it again.
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  You know, it's like retaking a test.
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  And I explored a lot of different religions as well
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  because I was just so lost. So I learned a lot about a lot
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  of different, different religious beliefs and, and
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  everything from new age to Eastern religions and you know,
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  Buddhism and just everything you can imagine because I, I love to
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  study things out and learn everything I can about things.
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  So, and in the end, you know, what kept coming back to me was
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  I'm not a Co creator, I'm not God.
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  I have a creator. He is God, you know, he is my
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  creator. So everything else that wasn't
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  sitting right with me was because it was, it was putting
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  something else in place of God or on level with God or taking
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  away his glory, his power, and, or trying to, you know, trying
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  to mute that. And, and that never felt right
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  to me. And when I finally came back to
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  my walk and just, I remember falling on my knees and just
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  just weeping with just a feeling the weight of just all the
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  ugliness of my life that I had lived and just how just his
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  grace and his mercy and his love and forgiveness for me.
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  I, you know, it was so amazing and that I just did not deserve
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  it, you know, and God just shone such a bright light on
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  everything for me after that. And finally, I, I saw the Bible
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  in such a new way and I started reading going, I did, you know,
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  it was just incredible to suddenly see for the first time,
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  you know, the Genesis 315, Genesis 6, these verses that
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  talked about who and what these beings were and God's like, now
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  you're ready here, here, here's what they were.
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  And he wanted to show me all along.
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  I did not want to see, but when I was ready to see, he showed me
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  in such a brilliant way. And then that's when I started
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  came into contact with people like Ellie Marzulli, who I had
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  no idea who he was when I spoke with him.
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  And God just led me straight to him.
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  I, you know, I spoke with him with no ulterior motives.
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  I had nothing to gain by sharing my story with him.
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  I did not know what he would do with the information I gave him,
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  had no intention of doing any of this.
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  But, you know, God had his intention and his path for me.
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  And and so that's kind of how I I got here.
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  But in going through that, I realized that if the church had
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  taught me when I was in my late teens, who the the wholeness,
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  the fullness of the Bible, not just the the comfortable parts
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  that get people, put butts in pews and get people there and
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  feel good, happy things. If it if I had been taught all
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  of the Bible, the parts that are more supernatural, uncomfortable
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  to teach, strange, interesting, hard to do, hard to teach in a
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  way because they're hard to understand.
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  I could have avoided a lifetime of pain and torture and misery
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  and being taken by these entities because I would have
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  known who they were and how to stop them.
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  You know, people say, how could a loving God let these things
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  happen to you? He didn't.
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  I did this world. Did we live in a fallen world?
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  He gave me everything I needed to stop them, but I didn't know,
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  I wasn't taught. And you know, we, we have this
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  information, but we're not using it.
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  It's not God's doing. It's our doing that makes these
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  things happen. If I had been taught, you know,
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  And so now that's why it's my mission to make sure these
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  things I can share as to as anyone who will listen, where
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  these things are in the Bible and what it means, because this
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  is something that could really be life changing for someone to
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  hear. As you were talking, I was
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  thinking about the experience of being saved and then the falling
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  away. And I think that's a story that
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  so many people experience. It's like there's almost like
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  layers. I mean, when you're saved,
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  you're saved, right? Jesus says the book of life and
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  all those things. But experientially as a human,
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  it feels like sometimes you're saved.
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  And then there's this like layer effect of like it's
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  intellectual. It's you're, you're acquiring
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  necessary information like who Jesus is and what exactly he
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  did. But then you journey a while and
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  you experience the falling away. And I think that's very common.
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  I have the same experience. And then that that burden in
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  your heart, it's like the bucket gets full and you come back to
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  him again. And now your understanding is
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  more in the heart realm and you recognize that it isn't just
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  about accepting intellectually that He's your creator and your
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  Savior. It's like there's that weight of
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  sin and iniquity and transgression that you become
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  enlightened to. And so when you come back to him
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  after the falling away, his love, His grace, His mercy, it
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  goes deeper and starts informing your belief system and not just
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  your mind. And it made me think about that
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  scripture where it says you work out your salvation with fear and
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  trembling. And I think sometimes one of the
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  tricks of the enemy in that space of that falling away is to
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  make people feel bad or guilty or like, Dang, I should have
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  known what I didn't know. And, and we want to place blame
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  and we want to say, oh, you know, if this had happened or
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  that had happened, but I think it's almost that same effect
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  that pressure and heat has to make coal diamond or there's
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  that, there's that. It's it's actually like a fiery
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  furnace that draws out the impurities and maybe, well, the
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  church should do better. Amen.
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  Right. I think sometimes it's actually
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  where the enemy meant it for evil, the Lord turns it around
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  for good because our understanding and our belief
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  system gets affected in a way that knowing everything ahead of
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  time and not struggling would never allow for.
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  Yeah. So I just think it's so
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  beautiful to hear and and I hope that the listener can identify
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  with that aspect of it. Like don't let the enemy trick
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  you into thinking that you should have known what you
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  didn't know. You're convicted of things in
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  his timing and it's your response to that, in that timing
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  that matters. You can't run ahead.
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  The Lord said to me, don't get ahead of me.
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  And I'm sure he's saying the same thing to everyone else,
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  like stop thinking about what it might be.
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  Repent for what was regret is an invitation to repent.
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  And even if you have to do that again, just know that you're in
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  a process. You're working out your
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  salvation with fear and trembling.
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  And it doesn't say you work out your salvation with joy and
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  laughter. You work it out with fear, with
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  fear and trembling. And that's OK.
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  Like let's have some permission to be that way.
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  And, and I would love to hear your thoughts about how we can
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  invite newer Christians or younger people.
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  Like I'm thinking of my daughter who's 11 and I let her listen to
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  podcasts like this one and other ones so that she's informed
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  about the woo or the paranormal, these things, so that when she
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  encounters them, it's not an invitation to a different belief
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  system, but it's a conversation she starts to have with the Lord
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  about what comprises reality actually and not just the false
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  reality overlay. So my question then actually is,
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  how would you think, how do you think that this could maybe be
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  framed better for people growing up?
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  Like what did you learn in that process as a mom, as a woman, as
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  somebody who's in the church and and walking this walk?
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  Give me your thoughts about that.
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  That is a great question. And I think there are a couple
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  of different things that need to really be focused on by parents
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  to not only safeguard their children but teach their
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  children when it comes to these subjects.
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  Because what we're seeing now and it's really nothing new, but
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  there is definitely always something new coming out is a
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  lot of information that is that is out there that is dangerous
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  for children. So there is a new Disney Pixar
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  movie out called Elio Elio. And it is about a young boy, 5
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  or 6 years old, who young child who wants to his one wish is to
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  be abducted by aliens who feels he doesn't fit in.
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  And it is basically teaching summoning to children and
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  sending this message of, you know, that it's OK to want to be
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  abducted and taken. And coming from someone who's
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  been through that experience at that age, that's terrifying to
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  me. They're making it look fun and
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  exciting the same way a predator would make, you know, here, you
• 23:43
  know, would be trying to lure a child in with candy.
• 23:45
  This is fun and exciting, but what comes next is not is
• 23:48
  dangerous and heartbreaking. And so the first thing is to be
• 23:54
  careful because if they get too interested, there are enough
• 23:58
  things out there that look similar but are incredibly
• 24:03
  dangerous. So as parents are allowing their
• 24:07
  children to learn more about these subjects, the first step
• 24:11
  is to make sure they understand what discernment is, that they
• 24:16
  do have a good walk with the Lord, That they do understand
• 24:20
  His protection. That you are praying protection
• 24:22
  over them and doing your part as a parent or grandparent or
• 24:25
  guardian or brother or sister or aunt or uncle or whoever you are
• 24:29
  in that child's life to protect them from the things that they
• 24:32
  may not know are dangerous. Just like we have to tell
• 24:35
  children not to touch a hot stove until they know.
• 24:39
  And there are a lot of things out there that don't appear
• 24:41
  dangerous, but most definitely are.
• 24:44
  So really vet things carefully and pray that discernment.
• 24:49
  That's, you know, because it becomes a slippery slope.
• 24:51
  If they get really interested, they're going to go out there
• 24:54
  and look for more things, maybe try to watch some of the ancient
• 24:56
  alien shows on TV and things like that.
• 24:59
  You know, some of those shows, there's certainly some really
• 25:02
  good information, historical information, geographic
• 25:05
  information, things like that. But then they're offering
• 25:08
  opinions that are completely counterintuitive to what we know
• 25:13
  to be the truth or opposite of what we understand to be the
• 25:16
  truth of God's Word and the Bible.
• 25:19
  And so that is going to bring about confusion.
• 25:22
  If they want to watch those things, I'd say watch with them
• 25:25
  and explain to them where it's wrong.
• 25:29
  Sometimes the mainstream things are more interesting to them
• 25:32
  than pulling some of the things from the biblical narrative.
• 25:35
  However, you know, the Bible is full of fascinating stuff to get
• 25:40
  them started on. You've got you've got talking
• 25:43
  donkeys and men walking through walls and chains falling away
• 25:47
  and fiery Chariots and just the name of just a three or four off
• 25:50
  top of my head. But there's hundreds of things
• 25:52
  in there that could get them interested and you can talk
• 25:55
  about them as stories and, and let them start to feel the
• 25:58
  richness and the excitement that's in God's word and the how
• 26:02
  much how supernatural is LA Marzulli calls it the guidebook
• 26:06
  to the supernatural because it really is, you know, and it's
• 26:10
  not necessarily written for the more younger people to
• 26:15
  understand unless we kind of help guide them through it and
• 26:18
  what what it means as we have learned what it means.
• 26:21
  So I, I highly encourage parents to make that a walk that they
• 26:25
  take together with their children with just gentleness
• 26:29
  and a, a huge amount of patience and understanding and be very
• 26:35
  open to questions and encourage questions and ask them questions
• 26:40
  and, you know, make it something engaging and fun.
• 26:45
  And if you bring in like so this, ask them what is
• 26:48
  interesting to them that's outside of the Bible, outside of
• 26:51
  the Christian, you know, what's in the non secular and secular
• 26:56
  world, what they're interested in so that you can then watch it
• 27:00
  with them if they have to watch it.
• 27:01
  And make sure you can point out the fallacies, the inaccuracies,
• 27:05
  the things that are dangerous and wrong.
• 27:07
  And that's a fun game too sometimes because let's see who
• 27:11
  finds the most things wrong. You know, in the first, you know
• 27:14
  who finds the 1st 10 things wrong.
• 27:16
  You can find ways to make it interesting, encouraging.
• 27:20
  Disney in particular, just to pick on them because they're
• 27:24
  intense about it. They discuss paranormal things.
• 27:28
  I'm thinking of all the different movies, but it, like
• 27:31
  you said, it doesn't come with any discernment.
• 27:33
  And they like so much of media nowadays, they give you a
• 27:36
  conclusion that is devoid of of God, is devoid of the Lord.
• 27:40
  And it's actually what the enemy wants you to believe about the
• 27:43
  things. Aliens are fun.
• 27:46
  You know, the mermaids are just fun people just like us at all
• 27:52
  these different ideas which are just wow.
• 27:55
  It's just what the enemy wants us to believe.
• 27:57
  It's not it doesn't grind these things out in faith.
• 28:01
  It doesn't show Jesus as king over that too.
• 28:06
  It's almost like shows it as separate and equal, which is not
• 28:09
  true. It is existing, but it's not
• 28:13
  it's it's. He's king over that too.
• 28:16
  And. How this season, the Bible warns
• 28:19
  about this, this cycle, this age of time as being one that we
• 28:23
  have to walk by faith and not by sight, that even your eyes will
• 28:26
  deceive you. And that's something that I
• 28:30
  reflect on quite a bit. And I, I would bet that you do
• 28:32
  as well of just now as, as AI is coming online and purely
• 28:39
  generated imagery and videos can look 100% real.
• 28:44
  I mean, if they were to broadcast the sky opening up and
• 28:47
  someone coming through on the phones, how would we know that
• 28:52
  it's not actually happening in a place none of us can actually
• 28:54
  go, right? And so there's so much that the
• 29:01
  children and people are going to be encountering that they have
• 29:05
  to work out with the Lord. And some of that we have to, as
• 29:11
  the church, have answers to these stranger things because
• 29:16
  without it, people will just be so lost.
• 29:21
  I was wondering if you've had any reflections or time with the
• 29:23
  Lord lately where you're talking to Him and listening to Him
• 29:26
  about the season of faith, of walking by faith and not by
• 29:30
  sight. How has that come into your
• 29:34
  experience or in your current conversations with Him?
• 29:38
  That and that's so interesting that you asked that question
• 29:41
  because I found myself lately praying that God provides our
• 29:46
  ministries with the loaves and the fishes that we need because
• 29:50
  I just feel like there's so much and so many we need to reach.
• 29:55
  Excuse me. And so it's, and we just need so
• 29:59
  many more voices and so much more time and so much more
• 30:02
  energy to get this message out and to reach everyone because we
• 30:07
  are having to be so careful of what we see right now.
• 30:13
  The one thing that that is always on my mind is making sure
• 30:18
  that the younger generation understands that what they're
• 30:22
  seeing is not necessarily what's out there.
• 30:25
  AI may be new to this generation, but it is not new as
• 30:31
  far as the technology goes. It has been around for a while.
• 30:34
  It, you know, we kind of get things in the mainstream after
• 30:38
  those in positions of power and authority have had them long
• 30:41
  enough to affect the things that they wanted to do with them.
• 30:44
  And then once they've done that and they want to use it for
• 30:47
  something else that we need to be aware of it to do that, then
• 30:51
  they introduce it into the general public.
• 30:53
  And this is the way of most technology.
• 30:57
  They're so far advanced of what we know.
• 30:59
  We are held back so far. And we do have confirmation of
• 31:05
  this from various different, you know, government authorities.
• 31:07
  I'm writing a lot more about that in my next book, and I
• 31:09
  write about that in my articles and LA Marzulli's newsletter as
• 31:12
  well. But the things, you know, we
• 31:15
  cannot trust what we see. We cannot trust our eyes.
• 31:18
  And I pray about this every day that, you know, we won't be
• 31:21
  fooled by lying signs. Lying signs and wonders and that
• 31:24
  God will bless us all with just clear discernment always in and
• 31:28
  in all ways because we live in a world that is no longer just I
• 31:36
  see this so that means it's a cup.
• 31:39
  It doesn't it could be a hologram.
• 31:41
  It could be an elephant that has been CGI to look like a cup.
• 31:45
  You know, you just don't know and and therein lies the problem
• 31:50
  without faith right now, this world we live in, there's no way
• 31:56
  there is absolutely no way. And my prayers have become more
• 32:01
  and more fervent and and almost desperate.
• 32:05
  I don't want to use that word, but just you know, because I
• 32:10
  don't know how to reach everyone.
• 32:12
  I want to reach with that message because I for those of
• 32:16
  us who are in touch with the Holy Spirit, who have that
• 32:19
  belief and I know that that's the listeners here with me too.
• 32:22
  We see, we see what's happening and we have a responsibility to
• 32:27
  warn everyone we can and to share with everyone we can, you
• 32:32
  know, the dangers, the potential dangers that are out there.
• 32:35
  You know, if and when, if we're taken up in the rapture before,
• 32:41
  you know, in our lifetime, you know, LA says maybe next
• 32:43
  Wednesday, we're not date setters.
• 32:44
  But wouldn't that be nice, right?
• 32:47
  But what my fear is, you know, for those left behind, because
• 32:51
  that means they really haven't had that relationship.
• 32:54
  They don't have discernment. They're going to be really easy,
• 32:58
  easily deceived, more so than they already have been.
• 33:04
  And clearly they have been because they're still, they
• 33:06
  would still be here. So a lot of things I, I'm sorry,
• 33:09
  I'm, I know I'm giving you very long answers to some of your
• 33:12
  questions, but you're asking very amazing and pointed
• 33:15
  questions. And these are things I think
• 33:16
  about a lot, yes. Yeah, no, I love your long
• 33:19
  answers. That's why we're here to hear
• 33:22
  your long answers. So take all the time you need.
• 33:25
  It's, it's thought provoking. I, I, I'm really here and we're
• 33:29
  really here to listen to what you have to say because it's
• 33:31
  very valuable. Your experiences have given you
• 33:34
  a depth of understanding of reality as as it's as this age
• 33:42
  is coming to unfold, because that is part of learning to walk
• 33:46
  in discernment is listening to voices like yourself.
• 33:49
  Where what, what abides under the surface of our daily
• 33:55
  interactions? Getting in our car, driving to
• 33:57
  work, going to grocery store, watching CNN.
• 33:59
  Y'all need to be delivered of CNN.
• 34:02
  All mainstream media in Jesus name, Amen.
• 34:06
  There has to be context for what's coming.
• 34:09
  And you're right, it is scary to think I don't spend, I
• 34:12
  personally don't spend a lot of time wondering about rapture
• 34:15
  questions because it just there doesn't seem to be an answer.
• 34:18
  I just want to live in Christ with my whole heart every day I
• 34:24
  wake up and especially when I'm sleeping because that's when
• 34:26
  things get weird. But the effect I was thinking as
• 34:31
  you were talking about technology attacks and how
• 34:35
  common they are for people, that I think a lot of people are
• 34:39
  waking up to what's happening. But also there's people who who
• 34:42
  don't understand the effect of technology attacks.
• 34:46
  The you know, everything in creation is based on light and
• 34:49
  frequency. Just that's true.
• 34:51
  It's not a new age thing. They just commandeered to freak
• 34:54
  us out. He.
• 34:54
  Created those things, yes. He created the crystals, he
• 34:57
  created the light, he created the frequency, he created all
• 35:00
  the things that they use in the counterfeit Kingdom.
• 35:03
  And people kind of miss that I think quite a bit.
• 35:05
  Sorry. Go ahead.
• 35:06
  Yeah, you're absolutely right. And that is that's that's an
• 35:10
  excellent way to flush it out a little bit more.
• 35:12
  But it made me think about. So you've had really intense
• 35:17
  abduction experiences, but I wonder if you could talk at all
• 35:21
  to those more subversive frequency, the effect of alien
• 35:27
  technology on our daily life. What does that look like?
• 35:31
  Have you had experiences in that, and how do you identify
• 35:33
  those moments as being what they are?
• 35:38
  Yeah, that's a good question too there.
• 35:40
  I think there's a couple ways to look at that.
• 35:42
  One thing is that, you know, they've been the people in
• 35:48
  positions of authority. I don't like to say government
• 35:50
  necessarily, but those who've been retrieving these crafts,
• 35:57
  you know, one of the things I'm going to be including the next
• 36:01
  book is a chapter on why do they crash?
• 36:05
  Because I, I hear a lot of people say if they're so
• 36:06
  advanced, why are they crashing? Sometimes I think it's purpose
• 36:11
  driven and for different reasons.
• 36:13
  Sometimes I think it's because we have done things that have
• 36:15
  interfered and I'll explain that in more detail in the book.
• 36:18
  So I'm not going to go down that road right now.
• 36:20
  But when these crashes are retrieved, they are retrieved
• 36:24
  with certain technologies, certain tools that then are back
• 36:30
  engineered or, you know, taken and utilized to understand them
• 36:38
  better and create what than our powers that be called new
• 36:43
  technologies that are not necessarily shared, certainly
• 36:47
  not right away. There are many that still have
• 36:50
  not been shared that I've experienced personally.
• 36:53
  Time, space and physics that are far beyond what we believe time,
• 37:01
  space and physics to be comprised of and utilized in
• 37:04
  ways that we don't understand in our normal society.
• 37:08
  What we've been taught is so different.
• 37:11
  So for as far as how alien technology or non human
• 37:16
  technology affects us, it's being used in a way right now
• 37:23
  that I feel is being used to kind of hold back society, keep
• 37:28
  a control on society. Because when you have a level of
• 37:33
  understanding higher, more far advanced of those who are in
• 37:40
  your society, then you kind of hold the power and the authority
• 37:44
  just by the fact that you have that.
• 37:46
  It's like having the keys to the cage.
• 37:49
  You know, whoever has the keys has has the authority, you know,
• 37:53
  and everyone in that cage who wants out has to follow what
• 37:57
  rules are set forth by that authority.
• 38:01
  So it gives them a a certain amount of power because they can
• 38:04
  do things that we don't realize they're doing.
• 38:06
  They can that it provides like AI, for example.
• 38:11
  What we know now is that they could put on shows in the sky or
• 38:18
  show what looks like you or me speaking when it's not really
• 38:22
  you or me. But what we don't realize is
• 38:26
  they've been able to do that for a long time.
• 38:29
  This is not new. So how far back do we go to
• 38:34
  wonder what's real and what wasn't, you know, and how much
• 38:38
  have we been deceived by these things?
• 38:42
  The effects of technology itself, we have no idea how much
• 38:47
  it's affected our society except that it's kept a level of
• 38:51
  control over society, in my opinion, that allows those who
• 38:58
  in positions of power and authority to just remain in
• 39:01
  positions of power and authority.
• 39:03
  As far as the that technology itself, as far as things like
• 39:10
  the radiation, as far as things like the travel, as far as
• 39:12
  things like the the way space and time and that travel is
• 39:16
  utilized, that has a seriously negative effect on a human body.
• 39:22
  God created us to live on this earth, and he created this earth
• 39:27
  and this environment and all the elements and all the things, you
• 39:30
  know, the frequencies and the sunlight and everything for us
• 39:34
  to live in. And almost in a way too, I
• 39:36
  believe after the days of Noah, when a lot of things changed to
• 39:41
  keep us in a safe environment where the angelic beings, the
• 39:46
  Bineha Elohim, the other entities created by God to serve
• 39:50
  him, are not able to live in this environment in the
• 39:53
  sunlight, in the way that we are, because it protects us from
• 39:56
  those that have fallen. And when we're pulled into their
• 40:01
  realm, when we're pulled into another realm or we're exposed
• 40:07
  to space and time differently, it affects our biology
• 40:11
  differently. I have had doctors my whole life
• 40:15
  tell me you're not aging normally.
• 40:18
  We don't understand why your aging kind of slows down and
• 40:21
  then you know, it's, it didn't make sense.
• 40:23
  My bones weren't growing the same way.
• 40:25
  Then my bones would speed up and grow too fast.
• 40:27
  I've had so many surgeries because of random bone growth
• 40:33
  that they can't understand things that they're like, have
• 40:37
  you been exposed to radiation? You know, like a nuclear test
• 40:41
  site? Were you in the military?
• 40:43
  Things like that. Because these are the effects
• 40:45
  that it's had on my body. And other abductees,
• 40:49
  experiencers have experienced these same things as well.
• 40:52
  And in the for in this book, there I have a chapter on the
• 40:56
  physical and physiological and psychological effects.
• 40:59
  There is a report that came out in 2022 where the government
• 41:04
  outlined all of the things that they understand are effects of
• 41:11
  being in contact with non human intelligence and they're
• 41:16
  everything that goes along with that.
• 41:18
  And you know all those things. I have almost all of the things
• 41:21
  that were on that list and there's several over 130 things
• 41:25
  on that list. So again, I don't know if that's
• 41:28
  exactly what you were looking for in that conversation.
• 41:31
  That kind of took it in a couple of different directions.
• 41:33
  But but that technology, you know, that has a lot of
• 41:36
  different effects. And then again, it gives them a,
• 41:38
  an opportunity to create signs in the heavens.
• 41:42
  You know, and one of the things my friend Scott Mitchell and I,
• 41:44
  he was the Bible Mysteries podcast and he and Rod, I think
• 41:48
  just did a talk together. We were talking the other day
• 41:51
  about, you know, this lying signs in the heavens that, you
• 41:53
  know, that's something we really have to look out for because and
• 41:56
  that has so much to do with these entities and how they're
• 42:00
  doing that. Yeah, that's a great answer.
• 42:03
  Those are all great points. I've often thought as we've kind
• 42:10
  of gone through the last since 2016 and there's been this sort
• 42:14
  of awakening happening to what is happening behind the, the
• 42:18
  veil and, and how our government's actually run and
• 42:21
  who these people really are, what they believe and so on and
• 42:24
  so forth. I've been asking the Lord about,
• 42:27
  well, Lord, if we put different people in power, as if we really
• 42:32
  put people in power, whatever that system is, whatever that
• 42:38
  is, right? There's still entities that are
• 42:42
  puppeting us. So even if we'd elect this
• 42:45
  person or or put in jail that person, Lord, I see now that
• 42:51
  what needs to be judged are the gods behind the veil.
• 42:56
  And so when because they just keep finding different vessels,
• 42:59
  it's like. Right.
• 43:02
  There's a world full of puppets. Exactly.
• 43:06
  They'll always find another one for their counterfeit Kingdom.
• 43:09
  But you know, I always tell myself, I always go back to when
• 43:12
  I would get, especially around election time, I always get,
• 43:14
  what do you think about the current politics?
• 43:16
  And I'm always say, you know what, God is in control.
• 43:18
  Whatever happens, ultimately God is in control and it's going to
• 43:24
  work towards his good to his plan, to his end.
• 43:28
  Because in the end, we know how the story ends.
• 43:31
  We've got the book, you know, we can read all the way to the last
• 43:34
  chapter. And we know from what he's
• 43:37
  provided us how how you know how this goes.
• 43:40
  We know that God wins. I mean, he is the creator of all
• 43:43
  things. So no matter, you know, what the
• 43:45
  counterfeit Kingdom tries to do, and, you know, their plan is to
• 43:49
  try to keep as many people from getting saved as possible and to
• 43:53
  try to regain birthright to, you know, the earth in the process.
• 43:59
  And, you know, they may very well do just that.
• 44:02
  But in the end, it doesn't really matter because it's God's
• 44:05
  earth, It's God's universe. We are gods.
• 44:08
  They are gods. Everything belongs to the
• 44:10
  creator. And there's really nothing that
• 44:13
  you know, in the end that they can do about it.
• 44:15
  They can try to steal, kill and destroy.
• 44:17
  That's what the enemy comes for. But, you know, for those of us
• 44:20
  who are saved, Hallelujah, we are saved.
• 44:22
  You know, they can't take that away from us and we will just
• 44:25
  keep our hand on the plow and keep fighting and keep trying
• 44:28
  until that day comes when he calls us home and, you know,
• 44:32
  that's all we can do. And I so it doesn't really
• 44:34
  matter to me who's in power. You know, it may make my life
• 44:37
  difficult. It may be painful.
• 44:39
  You know, we never know how we're going to react.
• 44:41
  If it comes to that point where someone's got cold steel against
• 44:44
  your head saying, you know, deny your savior, what are you going
• 44:47
  to do? You don't know when that happens
• 44:48
  how you're going to react. You know how you want to react,
• 44:52
  but I do know that I will in my heart never deny Him as my Lord
• 44:56
  and Savior. And and that's, you know, for
• 44:58
  me, that's my comfort. He is my comfort and my joy and
• 45:02
  and you my blessed hope. I confess with your lips and
• 45:05
  believe in your heart. That's right.
• 45:06
  Those are. Yeah, I I completely agree.
• 45:10
  And when we talk about trusting the plan, it's been so perverted
• 45:14
  because the white hats and black hats are worn by witches, so it.
• 45:20
  Doesn't really matter, right? It doesn't his, it doesn't
• 45:24
  really matter. So the plan we're trusting is
• 45:26
  the Lord's plan. And I think when you were
• 45:29
  talking about cages and keys and who has the keys, right, it made
• 45:35
  me think about, of course, I think it's in Matthew where he's
• 45:37
  like, I've given you the keys of the Kingdom and, and so we have
• 45:42
  the superseding keys. Yes.
• 45:45
  But where we've lacked as the body is understanding the
• 45:49
  spiritual mechanics of what's happening, because we've been
• 45:53
  fed a very vanilla, very white bread, simple gospel where
• 45:59
  there's no need to understand spiritual mechanics, which is
• 46:03
  just not true. And so while the Lords plan wins
• 46:07
  in the end and our salvation can't be taken from us, I think
• 46:11
  more and more we're coming into an age where we, we are required
• 46:15
  to understand the spiritual mechanics behind things because
• 46:18
  our prayers can't be. Lord, please intervene.
• 46:21
  Jesus, would you? Jesus, could you?
• 46:24
  I'm having a bad day. Help me.
• 46:26
  It's like strategic we're like snipers in the Spirit.
• 46:29
  We have to know exactly where to aim because the target is very
• 46:32
  narrow and shifting. Not just because the enemy is
• 46:36
  wily like that, but because we're up against things that we
• 46:42
  have not historically understood.
• 46:44
  Right. Oh, you're so right.
• 46:46
  Yes, I love that. And so when people like when you
• 46:50
  talk about these things, it really is like getting the
• 46:53
  enemies playbook. And when you talk about the AI
• 46:58
  and the, the technologically based attacks and all of these
• 47:02
  things, that makes me think about Doctor Laura Sanger when
• 47:05
  she talks about frequency weapons and how why is there
• 47:08
  music playing everywhere? And I've often wondered about
• 47:10
  that too. It's because we were taught to
• 47:13
  understand creation and the world within a very narrow, like
• 47:16
  you said, the the physics that they teach us are a lie
• 47:20
  intentionally so that when we encounter something that is
• 47:24
  outside of that those parameters, we dismiss it
• 47:27
  because we lack context for what we're experiencing.
• 47:30
  Well, that's just weird. Oh, that wasn't Bigfoot.
• 47:32
  It was just a bear. No, the problem is, is that we
• 47:35
  don't have the context to, we don't have the grid to
• 47:38
  understand our experiences. But once you do get that grid
• 47:42
  and you do start to listen to these stories that so
• 47:45
  historically have been dismissed as crazy people talk, you start
• 47:50
  to be able to understand that what you're experiencing in this
• 47:53
  world, it doesn't fit inside the box they're selling you.
• 47:56
  And that's OK, because we who overcome, overcome by the word
• 48:00
  of our testimony, that's Karen's testimony, that's Doctor Laura
• 48:03
  Sanger's testimony, that's my testimony.
• 48:05
  Those, those are the testimonies that have overcome such gross
• 48:08
  darkness that our understanding can't even put a pin in it.
• 48:12
  And therein lies an opportunity to grow into things that will
• 48:18
  shake heaven and earth, as Danderwall's books are titled.
• 48:22
  We're called to overcome, but we can't overcome if we can't even
• 48:26
  see the mountain we're climbing. Like there has to be a rooted
• 48:29
  openness. The Lord is not obligated to fit
• 48:34
  inside our theological boxes. He never will.
• 48:38
  And our intellect and, and our education is not the be all that
• 48:43
  ends all of who and what God is. And so it makes me think about
• 48:48
  how what you said was so profound and it just like opened
• 48:51
  up a whole realm to me when you said God crafted this
• 48:54
  environment to protect us, the sun, the the way that our air
• 49:00
  is, the way that light moves in this place.
• 49:03
  And so then that begs the question, right, Karen?
• 49:05
  Like, why are all these things being messed with?
• 49:09
  And my daughter, who's 11 has asked, but if they poison us,
• 49:13
  are they not also poisoning themselves?
• 49:17
  And I said to her, but those ruling entities are not subject
• 49:22
  to just this realm and they use puppets.
• 49:26
  They don't care about their puppets, unlike the Lord who
• 49:29
  loves these entities don't care about their puppets.
• 49:32
  They're users and abusers. They just spit you out.
• 49:34
  They don't think twice about it. You're just a shell, right?
• 49:39
  So there's, there's something to think about.
• 49:41
  There is this environment was crafted by God and is being
• 49:45
  manipulated by the enemy to make it more conducive to their
• 49:49
  habitation. And that some IP, I think
• 49:53
  somehow that idea of rending the veil or tearing the veil or
• 49:58
  things coming through the dimensions, I think there's some
• 50:01
  there's like a line through in that space and I see you
• 50:04
  nodding. So I'm wondering what's coming
• 50:06
  up for you? No, I'm just, and I am in
• 50:09
  absolute agreement with you and how you're putting that.
• 50:12
  I love how that struck you and how you got what I was trying to
• 50:15
  say because a lot of people don't understand when I try to
• 50:17
  go down that road. So I love that you understood
• 50:19
  that. The late Doctor Chuck Missler
• 50:22
  said Satan's outnumbered 2 to one.
• 50:23
  He's building an army. And and it goes back to people
• 50:27
  like me who've been taken. There are so many of us.
• 50:30
  I mean, I, I cannot tell you how many people every day, almost
• 50:35
  every day, no matter where I go, I'll meet someone, say, what do
• 50:38
  you do? I'm like, oh, I'm a writer.
• 50:39
  What do you write? I write about the supernatural
• 50:42
  from a biblical perspective. And there'll be two people
• 50:44
  standing there. One will go and the other will
• 50:46
  go. Really.
• 50:47
  I've, I've had experiences and like, would you like a copy of
• 50:50
  my book? I probably give away more than I
• 50:51
  sell, you know, And it's because I'm not doing this for me.
• 50:55
  I'm doing this for him. It's a ministry.
• 50:57
  I'll do whatever I have to do. I pay for more of the books than
• 51:00
  other people do. So if anyone wants to donate to
• 51:03
  the ministry, feel free because that's what that's how I keep
• 51:07
  going to just give away books. But I'd give them all away if I
• 51:10
  could, honestly. But and but The thing is, is
• 51:14
  that so Doctor Chuck Missler said that Satan's outnumbered 2
• 51:18
  to one, he's building an army. That's what's happening with
• 51:21
  these abductions. They're taking over and they're
• 51:23
  taking eggs from women, sperm from them.
• 51:25
  They're utilizing this or creating hybrid entities.
• 51:28
  People are like, oh, that's crazy.
• 51:29
  I'm like, is it? Look at Genesis three?
• 51:31
  Look at Genesis 6, the sons of God, Vineha, Elohim, what people
• 51:36
  call angelic beings. They fell and took of them wise
• 51:40
  of all they chose and they bore offspring.
• 51:44
  These were the mighty men of old.
• 51:46
  The nepheline, the Gibrine, you can call them all different
• 51:48
  things. There were different shapes and
• 51:49
  sizes. They weren't all giants folks
• 51:51
  there and they're still out there today.
• 51:54
  And listen to LA Marzulli's interview about the Kandahar
• 51:56
  giants. Listen to you know, and it's
• 51:59
  today you will hear people. You can go get your nails done
• 52:03
  or your haircut and the person in there sitting next to you or
• 52:07
  or give providing a service will talk to you about the nepheline.
• 52:11
  Did you ever think nepheline will become a mainstream topic
• 52:15
  of conversation? We are in the days of Noah.
• 52:18
  It says it will be like as in the days of Noah.
• 52:21
  So why are they creating these modern day nepheline?
• 52:24
  Because he is creating an army, because he's outnumbered 2 to
• 52:27
  one. And because I think I said 3 to
• 52:29
  1, I meant to say 2 to one, sorry.
• 52:31
  And because they on their own have a hard time existing in
• 52:37
  this environment. So when you create a hybrid
• 52:40
  entity that has a lot of human qualities and characteristics
• 52:43
  and a lot of our genetic substance, that entity can
• 52:49
  exist, but it was not ordained by God.
• 52:51
  It is an abomination in God's eyes.
• 52:53
  And therefore the ones that I have seen do not appear to have
• 52:56
  any kind of a soul. All you, all I felt from them
• 52:59
  was what seemed like a sense of hate.
• 53:01
  Just just this darkness in their eyes.
• 53:04
  It was like looking at a rattlesnake.
• 53:05
  It's just, I wrote about it in the book again, I know I keep
• 53:09
  going back to it. And I'm not saying that to sell
• 53:11
  books. I just want to conserve time
• 53:13
  here. And I think I talked about it in
• 53:15
  my first interview with Rod, so you can go back and listen to
• 53:18
  that one to hear about it. But I did see these hybrid
• 53:21
  entities, the ones that I had, they'd utilize my eggs to create
• 53:25
  and, and they're horrible. They're horrifying.
• 53:27
  But you know, there are, there are ones out there.
• 53:29
  I can always tell when I see one, but they are
• 53:32
  indistinguishable from you and me, almost.
• 53:36
  Those of us who pray for discernment, those of us who've
• 53:39
  seen them before, those of us who've been in the presence of
• 53:41
  these, these UA PS who've had these experiences, generally can
• 53:46
  identify them. I can always tell by their eyes.
• 53:49
  And I was talking to Ellie Marzulli about that, how I can
• 53:51
  always tell by their eyes. I can see if they're on TVI can
• 53:54
  see them in person, wherever. And I can feel it.
• 53:55
  I get that feeling. When you feel evil, you know it.
• 53:59
  You know, it's, it's that feeling and and he says his his
• 54:04
  quote and this quote is LA Marzulli.
• 54:06
  So I give him credit for this. The eyes are the windows to the
• 54:08
  soul. And I think it's interesting
• 54:10
  because I can always tell by the eyes because they are, they seem
• 54:12
  to be soulless. There's nothing there but just
• 54:15
  pure evil. It's like looking into black and
• 54:18
  their eyes aren't black, but it's like looking into
• 54:20
  blackness. And so for me, you know, that's
• 54:23
  I think how they have covered that space of it and why they've
• 54:27
  taken people and why they've tried to create these hybrid
• 54:29
  entities so that they have proxies here.
• 54:31
  Walking Among Us Doctor David Jacobs has a book called Walking
• 54:35
  Among Us where he has interviewed hundreds of people
• 54:38
  who have actually had to help entertain, live with, prepare
• 54:43
  these hybrid entities to be in society.
• 54:46
  This is a respected Harvard psychologist.
• 54:49
  He is not some kook who's just making something up.
• 54:52
  And he's not the only one who's written about this or who's
• 54:55
  experienced this. So for people who think this is
• 54:57
  crazy talk, you know, how many more people have to come forward
• 55:01
  with their their own experiences and say, what do I have to gain
• 55:07
  by sharing this? For people to believe and
• 55:09
  understand that this is real? There is just so much stigma out
• 55:14
  there so that people are like, well, it's not possible.
• 55:16
  Why is it not possible? I mean, a horse and a donkey can
• 55:21
  mate and make a mule, right? That's possible, right.
• 55:25
  So why can't they mate a human and a Baneha Elohim and make a
• 55:30
  nepheline? We know it is in the Bible and
• 55:34
  people are like, well, just because it's in the Bible
• 55:36
  doesn't mean it's true. Well, for me it is, but I've
• 55:38
  seen it and it's not just me. Okay, If it was just me, I'd say
• 55:42
  maybe, yeah, okay, go. You don't have to.
• 55:43
  But it's not just me. So I will get off my soapbox
• 55:46
  here. I'm sorry, but I get very
• 55:49
  passionate about this because there are so many of us talking
• 55:52
  about this. And then then you come around
• 55:54
  the corner and they'll put 16 people in a congressional
• 55:57
  hearing and a whole at least half of them are questionable.
• 56:01
  And then they make everyone doubt because they're putting
• 56:03
  people in as they know are going to make people doubt the truth
• 56:06
  because these people are of questionable background,
• 56:08
  questionable ethics, questionable, whatever.
• 56:11
  So then they make the people who are there with real information
• 56:15
  be questioned as well. And then you come around the
• 56:17
  corner again. And I was just talking to LA
• 56:19
  Marzulli on an interview last week.
• 56:21
  We talked about there is this new show out called Secrets
• 56:25
  Declassified with David Duchovny and people might remember him
• 56:28
  from The X-Files. I personally have never watched
• 56:30
  The X-Files. I cannot watch shows like that
• 56:32
  because of what happened to me. So if people think I get my
• 56:34
  information from The X-Files, you're wrong.
• 56:36
  I've never watched it. I may have caught the end of 1
• 56:38
  episode because it happened to me on TV but I didn't even know
• 56:40
  what it was. Anyway.
• 56:43
  So they are saying on that show that Roswell was a weather
• 56:47
  balloon. This is a brand new show.
• 56:50
  So now we've taken 3 steps back and we're back to a weather
• 56:52
  balloon. Insane.
• 56:54
  I'm just, you know, so the whole thing is just it's smoke and
• 56:57
  mirrors, psyops everywhere. You know, the deception is real,
• 57:01
  folks. It's running rampant.
• 57:03
  Get in your Bible, get with people like, you know, Carly
• 57:07
  here, get with Rod. Make sure you know the truth.
• 57:09
  Make sure you're praying for discernment.
• 57:11
  There is just too much going on and we're missing it.
• 57:14
  We're missing it and we're being deceived.
• 57:16
  And that's dangerous for you, dangerous for your family, your
• 57:19
  children, your loved ones. Yeah, agreed.
• 57:23
  Well put. Well put.
• 57:25
  I, my oldest son had said to me the other day.
• 57:27
  Mom, I don't think everybody I interact with is human.
• 57:34
  Well. I know you are in that way about
• 57:36
  teachers at school too, so you never know you.
• 57:38
  Never know. And I'm like, you don't realize
• 57:41
  how true that statement is, friend.
• 57:43
  Yeah. Right, Yes, that could be very
• 57:44
  true. And you don't even know what are
• 57:46
  robotics anymore either, or what could be.
• 57:50
  You know, you've got robotics, you've got AI, you've got
• 57:55
  holographic images. I mean, who knows what we're
• 57:59
  interacting with half the time. I guarantee y'all, I'm real.
• 58:03
  Carly's real. So, you know, we can tell you
• 58:05
  that right now, at least in this interview at this moment.
• 58:12
  Yeah, very real. It's really real around here,
• 58:14
  friends. It's getting real, folks.
• 58:15
  It's getting a little too real. I hope we're tearing one away
• 58:17
  with my last rant there. I'm sorry.
• 58:19
  Oh no, I love the rants. You're welcome to.
• 58:21
  Mention this too real quick while we were on the topic this
• 58:25
  and I know you've talked to her. Y'all have talked to Vicki Joy
• 58:27
  Anderson. I know she's a good friend of
• 58:29
  the show too. Her books the only come out at
• 58:30
  night when we were talking about just the legalisticness of the
• 58:35
  society and the deception of the society.
• 58:38
  She really this book, it's it's called exposing the dark Weapon
• 58:43
  of sleep paralysis. There's so much more in here
• 58:45
  though, and you can find this book where you find mine.
• 58:48
  I really find our books are great companions to each other,
• 58:51
  and she and I actually do a lot of interviews together because
• 58:54
  our information is so compatible.
• 58:57
  Because the deception, whether you're talking about a demon,
• 59:01
  which is the disembodied spirit of Nephilim when it passes,
• 59:04
  whether you're talking about a fallen angelic being or a devil,
• 59:10
  whether you're talking about something demonic, whether you
• 59:13
  are talking about anything in the spirit realm, whether you're
• 59:17
  talking about UF, OS, UA, PS, non human intelligence, it's all
• 59:20
  the same thing. You have us, you have our
• 59:23
  Creator, and then you've got in between there the angelic
• 59:27
  beings, the beings that God created to serve him that aren't
• 59:30
  us. We don't have a book on them.
• 59:33
  We don't know much about them. We know what little is in the
• 59:36
  Bible about them. God gave us enough to know how
• 59:39
  to protect ourselves because it's a very, very legalistic
• 59:43
  society and we have to understand that.
• 59:45
  I say that to people all the time.
• 59:46
  And people are like, what are you talking about?
• 59:49
  That's another thing that's not taught in the church, and you
• 59:53
  touched on that earlier and I kind of didn't go back to it,
• 59:56
  but people are not taught how to pray.
• 59:58
  They're not taught how to pray correctly.
• 59:59
  They're not taught what to pray, why to pray, and how to pray
• 1:00:03
  correctly. And it's really, really
• 1:00:04
  important, folks, you got to understand that you can't just
• 1:00:08
  whine and go, oh, God help me. God will hear your prayers.
• 1:00:10
  God will help you. Yes, He will.
• 1:00:12
  He wants to hear your hear. He hears your voice.
• 1:00:16
  He recognizes his sheep's voices, however.
• 1:00:20
  You can easily just be hurt, deceived.
• 1:00:24
  I mean, you know, the the evil ones come to lie still, kill,
• 1:00:30
  deceive, hurt, all these things. They know they can't get your
• 1:00:33
  soul. They know that you're safe, but
• 1:00:35
  they still want to hurt you. And they're going to do any way
• 1:00:37
  they can. And you have to understand how
• 1:00:41
  to fight because it's not a fair fight.
• 1:00:43
  And you've got to understand what the rules are.
• 1:00:46
  It is a very specific, there are very specific rules of
• 1:00:50
  engagement. They have to follow the rules
• 1:00:52
  and they know it. So if you know the rules, then
• 1:00:55
  it becomes a very fair fight. And you can just say you can't
• 1:00:59
  do that because this and I can say, you know, I can ask God to
• 1:01:03
  annul that agreement that somebody made on my behalf.
• 1:01:06
  And as my Holy Father, he can do that.
• 1:01:09
  So now you no longer have access to me Evil 1 and and then you're
• 1:01:14
  good. But you can't just say, oh,
• 1:01:16
  yeah, I'm going to break that covenant.
• 1:01:18
  No, no, no, no, no, you cannot do that.
• 1:01:20
  That's not how it works. But people are not taught that.
• 1:01:23
  And so sorry, folks, I know I'm getting passionate again, but I
• 1:01:27
  care about people and people are not being taught the truth.
• 1:01:31
  They're not being taught the right things.
• 1:01:32
  And, and you know, they're being taught truth in church.
• 1:01:35
  They're just not being taught all of it.
• 1:01:37
  And the parts that are being left out leaves people in danger
• 1:01:39
  of just being hurt or wounded or you know, and if you don't have
• 1:01:44
  all of that truth, if you go to if you go to the end of your
• 1:01:48
  life feeling hurt and wounded, there's a lot of church hurt out
• 1:01:51
  there. You hear that phraseology all
• 1:01:53
  the time. It's not because God doesn't
• 1:01:58
  love you, but you go taking that with you.
• 1:02:00
  You know your time is going to be different.
• 1:02:04
  You know, you want to go into God's Kingdom being a bride, not
• 1:02:10
  just being someone who was so church hurt that you've got to
• 1:02:14
  go up there. And then you really have to go
• 1:02:16
  and learn again. Start, go in knowing that you
• 1:02:20
  did everything you could going in being ready to be that be
• 1:02:24
  that bride. Your bridegroom is waiting for
• 1:02:26
  you there. You know, and just if that
• 1:02:28
  analogy is not making sense, I'm sorry.
• 1:02:30
  And I don't want to go back and explain all that because I know
• 1:02:32
  we're running out of time, but OK, I will.
• 1:02:35
  Carly, I'm so sorry. I'll get off my soapbox once
• 1:02:37
  again and hand the mic back to you.
• 1:02:40
  I'm issuing you a mount the soapbox permission slip in the
• 1:02:44
  spirit, girl. Get on it.
• 1:02:46
  Say what you got to say. And when you were talking about,
• 1:02:50
  for some reason, what stood out to me and that and that
• 1:02:54
  dissertation, which was much needed and a blessing was
• 1:02:58
  passion. And I've listened to a lot of
• 1:03:01
  stories of of encounters of non human life and, you know, my own
• 1:03:05
  experiences. And there's there's something
• 1:03:08
  that I've heard over and over again is people will call in the
• 1:03:12
  name of Jesus who don't really believe, but somehow that raises
• 1:03:14
  up in them and then it has an effect.
• 1:03:17
  And then there's people who have been saved and in those
• 1:03:20
  instances, they call in the name of Jesus and there isn't an
• 1:03:22
  effect. But then the more emotion they
• 1:03:25
  put behind it, the more conviction comes up from
• 1:03:27
  somewhere inside of them. Because, you know, in those
• 1:03:30
  moments, you can't just have a conversation with your soul
• 1:03:33
  about, look, we got to get it together here.
• 1:03:34
  Let's get our ducks in a row and really say it's like we mean it.
• 1:03:37
  You know, you're responding out of instinct, out of what is very
• 1:03:40
  deep in your heart. And so as that conviction comes
• 1:03:44
  where there wasn't an effect, there becomes an effect.
• 1:03:47
  Where there's righteous anger, the enemy is pushed back.
• 1:03:50
  But where faith is thin or you're just saying it.
• 1:03:54
  And it's so interesting to me, like why when some people who
• 1:03:58
  don't even believe in Christ call on Christ, the enemy is
• 1:04:02
  pushed back. People who believe in Christ,
• 1:04:04
  but their faith is weak. He's not, They're not pushed
• 1:04:07
  back. And then his conviction.
• 1:04:09
  Like how interesting. And I know that witches, they do
• 1:04:12
  call on the name of Jesus. They know who he is and they
• 1:04:15
  understand. It works.
• 1:04:16
  That's why it works for them because I'm writing about that
• 1:04:19
  too in this next. It's so funny you're bringing up
• 1:04:20
  all these topics that I'm so passionate about, but yet that's
• 1:04:25
  why it works for them because here's the difference.
• 1:04:27
  They know. They know who he is.
• 1:04:29
  They know the Bible better than most Christians.
• 1:04:31
  Most of them, They know it because they know they have to
• 1:04:34
  know it. Because I'm going back to the
• 1:04:35
  legalistic society, there are rules they have to follow.
• 1:04:38
  And in order to effect the changes they want, they got to
• 1:04:41
  know how to get around some things.
• 1:04:42
  They got to know how to work the system.
• 1:04:45
  And they know he's real. Oh, yeah.
• 1:04:47
  And then when they get in a bind, they also know you know
• 1:04:50
  who he is and they call on him. They're doing it out of
• 1:04:53
  conviction because they already know in their heart he's real.
• 1:04:57
  And that's what gives me hope because anyone who knows he's
• 1:05:00
  real, they've already heard him knocking and they've already
• 1:05:05
  peeked through the door. Because, you know, it's, it's a
• 1:05:08
  process. People can say that they are a
• 1:05:12
  Christian, they can say all kinds of things, but they'll
• 1:05:14
  call in Jesus and it doesn't work.
• 1:05:16
  And I compare that to having a washer and dryer in your house
• 1:05:20
  and then taking your clothes and throwing them on the floor in
• 1:05:23
  the laundry room and expecting them to come down and see them
• 1:05:26
  done and folded. It does not work that way.
• 1:05:29
  You have to put them in the machine.
• 1:05:31
  Put the soap in, start it up, take him out, put him in the
• 1:05:34
  dryer, start that up. Do all the process.
• 1:05:37
  It's the same with Jesus. It's the same thing you have is
• 1:05:42
  a process to it. He is going to stand at the door
• 1:05:45
  and knock, but you have to listen.
• 1:05:47
  You have to hear him knocking. You have to go to the door.
• 1:05:50
  You have to open the door, You have to invite him in.
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  And that's why it doesn't work for some people, but it does
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  work for others. And when those people who say,
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  well, they profess to be witches or warlocks or whatever they do,
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  or Satanists or, you know, whatever name they want to call
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  themselves, call on Jesus and it works.
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  It's because they know he's standing at the door.
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  They've even opened the door. They've looked at him because
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  they want to know who their adversary is.
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  But then when they found out their adversary wasn't who they
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  thought it was, he's still staying in there.
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  And guess what they did? They asked him in because that's
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  all you have to do, because His grace is sufficient.
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  So don't let someone tell you you've done too many bad things.
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  You can't get that grace. That's not true.
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  If His grace is sufficient for them, it's sufficient for you
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  and me and Carly and everything else and everyone else in God's
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  creation. We are not the judges of who's
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  His grace is sufficient, for He is His grace is sufficient.
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  We don't deserve it, not even a little bit.
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  There's nothing we can do to earn or deserve His grace.
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  But we just have to open the door and ask Him in, and it's
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  ours and it's free and He just wants to give it to us.
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  Isn't that amazing? It's the easiest thing to get in
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  the whole world. That's how much He loves us.
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  He's willing to do all the work. All we have to do is ask Him in
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  so simple. It's so simple.
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  And once you do, your life just opens up and becomes a whole new
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  life and you have a new life. You get to live it all new.
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  And I know I am talking to people who already know this,
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  but you know, share that analogy with a friend who needs it.
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  Maybe you'll find somebody who needs it today because there's
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  always going to be someone out there you're going to meet who
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  needs to know that truth and see it in a new way and not think
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  that just means you're this boring, Bible banging Christian
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  who someone you don't want to hang out with.
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  No, the Bible's fascinating. It's beginning to end full of
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  just incredible, incredible information.
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  I will never have enough time in this lifetime to study out the
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  Word the way I want to. I can stay in one place in there
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  and just never get out of it because it's just too much to
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  learn. When you go into different
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  languages and interpretations and you go down into the
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  meanings of words and you just start getting into it, it's
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  fascinating and exciting and you start talking to other people
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  about it. So you know, again, passionate
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  is just a, you know, the, the word, it is a living word.
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  When you get into it, you see just how alive God's word is and
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  how much it makes you feel alive.
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  And you know, I'm a really good example of that because I sit
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  here with you. I'm excited, I've got energy,
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  I'm pumped up. I should be laying in bed.
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  I should be in so much pain that I can't even talk and do this.
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  But no, I'm, I'm doing this. This is the Holy Spirit, this is
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  God, this is God. Give me energy and the strength
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  and the ability to do this. All glory to him.
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  There's no way I should be sitting here being able to do
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  this, but there is a way. It's his way, and that's the
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  only way. Yeah, I love to be reminded of
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  those foundational truths because sometimes we, when we
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  speak, we reinvigorate them our our language as believers.
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  We carry the weight. It carries the weight of our
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  creators. Why we have to be so careful
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  what we say? Why we have to be so careful
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  what we agree with. Because the enemy is so
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  legalistic. You just give it a shake of your
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  head, nod of your head. Or when when we agree with the
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  enemy's agenda, we don't understand the weight of our
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  agreement and the weight of our words.
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  And so we have to speak life to each other.
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  We have to agree that His grace is sufficient and all the other
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  things that uphold us when we should really just have
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  decomposed at this point because there's so much coming against
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  us. But He keeps us.
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  And I really appreciate this conversation we've had.
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  I pray that it's a blessing to everybody who's listening, and
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  now and in the future, I speak those blessings upon people.
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  May your understanding be enlightened to know what is the
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  goodness of God and truly that is the bottom line is like he,
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  he leads men to repentance by his goodness.
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  And so when his goodness shows up to people who really need to
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  repent, let's not let's not be like this.
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  The the the brothers of the prodigal son.
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  Let's not take that attitude because he is fully invested in
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  everybody even and, and I'll just want to say this before we
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  wrap it up. You know, I think there's going
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  to be a season where some of us are going to understand that we
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  are a mixture. Our bloodline is a mixture.
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  We're not purely human. Some of us, and probably more
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  than anybody really wants to admit, do have compromised DNA
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  and and there's been bred into us genetics that aren't purely
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  human. And I, if you're waking up to
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  that, I just want to say that repentance is still yours and
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  your humanity, no matter how small of a percentage of your
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  being it is. It matters to Christ and he died
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  for you too. And you can, there's one judge,
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  yes. So don't let anybody sell you
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  that that repentance isn't yours, it's yours.
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  He will come for you, humanity, and he will deliver you from the
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  instruments of your bondage and you will have the opportunity to
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  choose him in your humanity salvation.
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  You, you have that option. His grace is sufficient and his
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  overcoming is profound and prolific.
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  It has no end and no beginning. And so as we wrap this up, I
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  would love for you to just plug anything you want to plug, say
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  anything that's on your heart. And then if you want to, if you
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  would just say a prayer for the listener and we will reconvene
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  another time. I'd love to have more
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  conversations with you, Karen. Thank you so much Carly.
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  I would love to do this again too.
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  It's just like hanging out, talking with a friend and
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  anytime let me know. And to everyone out there, if
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  you want to reach out to me, you can send me an e-mail.
• 1:11:55
  Just go to my website and you will find a link to send me a
• 1:11:59
  message and it goes right straight to my e-mail.
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  That is the best way to get in touch with me.
• 1:12:04
  Please do not send me messages through social media.
• 1:12:06
  I rarely am able to check those because so many get in there and
• 1:12:11
  it gets clogged up with random messages.
• 1:12:14
  It's hard for me to find the real messages in there.
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  So please just send me an e-mail through the website and that's
• 1:12:23
  the the best way to get a hold of me.
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  And I don't share any of them stories.
• 1:12:30
  If you tell me things that have happened to you and you just
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  want to share that to get it out there, to get it off your chest,
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  sometimes that just makes you feel better.
• 1:12:38
  That's fine. If you've tried to get a hold of
• 1:12:40
  me and haven't heard back from me, it probably means your
• 1:12:43
  message didn't go through. So please send me another
• 1:12:45
  message. It's an imperfect world and
• 1:12:48
  these things happen and sometimes emails don't go
• 1:12:50
  through or end up in a junk mail folder or something.
• 1:12:53
  So please try again. So really that's it.
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  Just please reach out and I just thank everyone for your time and
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  your patience and keep sharing that.
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  Keep sharing the truth. You know, take the truths that
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  you heard here today and be part of the loaves and fishes, be a
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  part of the ministries, be a part of it.
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  Share it with anyone that you can and you know, helps help
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  keep the truth flowing because there is a lot of truth that has
• 1:13:20
  been held back from the people and they really need to know
• 1:13:23
  that truth. So I just thank everyone for
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  even just taking the time to listen to this today.
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  It's so important. And that you're such a blessing
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  for being here. And on that note, I will pray
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  for everyone now, Heavenly Father, I just pray that these
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  words will have an impact for whoever needs them.
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  That they will reach those who need to hear them.
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  That they will find the truth that they're seeking, and that
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  anyone who is in need will find whatever it is they need today.
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  That you will be there for them. Help them to find the answers
• 1:13:51
  that they're looking for. You will be there to love and
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  support and help them know that they are loved and cherished and
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  that they are special to you. That we are all just wonderfully
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  and beautifully and uniquely created by you.
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  You are one and only our Heavenly Father.
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  And that you love us so much. You are the one and only judge.
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  You are the one and only Savior of Jesus.
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  And that you are here for us no matter what.
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  That you love us no matter what has happened, You are always
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  here for us. Thank you all for being here.
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  I just play blessings to you all.
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  And remember, don't go looking up for them.
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  Look up for Him, our Redeemer. For His our redemption draws
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  nigh. Thank you, Jesus.
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  In the name of the Father, Son, Holy Spirit, I pray.
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  Amen. Amen.
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  I came from the son, but one of you straight from that you
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  really owe me. All of my life I was beating up.
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  All of my life I didn't handle. All in my life I was stuck in a
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  trap. All in my life, I didn't have no
• 1:15:04
  wrap. I didn't know why my life was so
• 1:15:06
  wet. I didn't know why my life was a
• 1:15:08
  wrap. I didn't know why I couldn't get
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  up. I was so stuck.
• 1:15:12
  And the monkey was stuck till I found out.
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  And I broke everything till I fell down.
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  And they took everything until I was hurting my heart.
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  It was straight. Yeah, I was broke.
• 1:15:21
  And I had all this tank. Hell no.
• 1:15:23
  It got harder, this hole. Then I went to the side of this
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  mode. I had no truth but to look to my
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  guy. He gave me to me.
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  You'll move in my heart. He gave me.
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  Earrings and he told me I'm blessed.
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  He told me he just believe me Mr. I told him I can't change
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  all of my ways. He said I got you, just look at
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  this. I looked at him and he showed me
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  his ways. Then he just told me how I am
• 1:15:44
  Mr. See he told me I'm not on this one.
• 1:15:47
  He told me I come from the end of the fall by my new preaching.
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  I come from the sun, from the one and only straight from the
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  heavens. You really on me?
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  I came from the sun I was really with him and heavenly places I'm
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  a sealing. Y'all can't even go that way.
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  Y'all don't even know that way. Y'all want to play like Patty
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  cake but this ain't no game. But it's that way right?
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  You wipe this so fake when you walk under me and I saw you were
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  a snake. You think you can be me, but you
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  got to buy what you want. In a way I take out that trouble
• 1:16:20
  I put on your top and I prank on your face.
• 1:16:23
  I see you laughing. You think that you got me but
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  you got no way. The evil you said for my life is
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  OK 'cause it's made for my good. My God is created, He created
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  you so you really is cooked. I said all these things 'cause I
• 1:16:38
  know what is true and you know you is cooked in this case.
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  We ain't no winning games. You can never win out all the
• 1:16:45
  things that's gonna happen to you when you die in the hell in
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  the head. You didn't live in your life
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  'cause you know you can never go and get sick.
• 1:16:53
  You know it's crazy. His mercy was took from you when
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  you're my son in the plot. Thought you could take on my
• 1:16:59
  God's spot now, but you can die hot.
• 1:17:02
  You was really tweaking. I come from the sun, from the
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  one and only straight for them. Is he really owe me?
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  I came from the sun. I was really with them.
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  And heavenly places I'm sealing.