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Woman sets man on fire for disrespect, women most affected · Honey Badger Radio

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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to Honey Badger Radio. My name
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Speaker 1: reacting to a horrifying news story. But more horrifying than
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Speaker 1: today get into today's stories. And I'm going to add
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Speaker 1: with all that said, let's look at the story. So
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Speaker 1: we have this from the New York Post and I'll
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Speaker 1: read through some of it and then we'll look at
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Speaker 1: but the real story is the Twitter stuff. Twenty four
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Speaker 1: year old Australian woman set a friend, a friend, not
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Speaker 1: a boyfriend, not a husband, a friend on fire for
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Speaker 1: making a misogynistic remark. An Australian woman allegedly lit her
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Speaker 1: longtime friend on fire because he made a misogynistic remark
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Speaker 1: during a wild night of partying, a court heard earlier
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Speaker 1: this month, corby Gene Wowpole. I'm not really sure if
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Speaker 1: I pronounced that correctly. Twenty four pleaded guilty in an
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Speaker 1: Albery District court to the arson attack on Jake Loader
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Speaker 1: twenty three, saying she felt overwhelmed by his antagonistic behavior
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Speaker 1: throughout the night before she was finally set off by
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Speaker 1: a sexist remark he made during a house party in
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Speaker 1: New South Wales last year. According to the Australian Broadcasting Corporation,
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Speaker 1: Loader told Walpole she should stay in the kitchen making
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Speaker 1: scones if she couldn't handle rinking with the boys, which
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Speaker 1: sent the twenty four year old into a rage. The
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Speaker 1: court heard, according to the.
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Speaker 2: ALM, I'm sorry, that's what upset her.
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Speaker 1: Yea, she should go to the kitchen. The go to
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Speaker 1: the kitchen. It works every time.
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Speaker 3: He called her fragile and she got up as she
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Speaker 3: responded by proving that yes, she was fragile.
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Speaker 1: Yes, by setting the man on fire. He grabbed a
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Speaker 1: gallon of gasoline from the garage and Dousloader with the
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Speaker 1: flammable substance, waving a lighter at him threateningly. The publication reported,
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Speaker 1: go on, do it. Loader yelled at his friend, who
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Speaker 1: was drunk and had consumed cocaine. She confessed, whoa ge,
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Speaker 1: she was drunk and on cocaine. Okay, no it's not.
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it is. I'm just saying she was.
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Speaker 1: She's already kind of a loser for being drunk and
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Speaker 1: high on cocaine, while Pole then touched him with the lighter,
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Speaker 1: setting a loader ablaze. According to the testimony, Lotus sustained
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Speaker 1: burns to fifty five percent of his body and had
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Speaker 1: some of his sweat glands burned off. He was put
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Speaker 1: in a medically induced coma for eight days after the attack.
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Speaker 1: According to a victim impact statement read in court, he
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Speaker 1: acquired ten operations or required ten operations and spent seventy
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Speaker 1: four days in a burn unit at a Melbourne hospital.
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Speaker 1: According to the statement, the friend cannot step outside into
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Speaker 1: the sun because of the extensive epidermal damage. The statement said.
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Speaker 1: Alpoll told the court that she had been abusing drugs
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Speaker 1: and alcohol since a breakup in twenty twenty two and
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Speaker 1: regretted the heartless act. So it was men's fault. I
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Speaker 1: had a breakup and then I got into drugs and alcohol.
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Speaker 1: The firebug claimed during the trial that she was pushed
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Speaker 1: to the edge by Loader, who tried to wrestle with
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Speaker 1: her and was being continuously antagonistic throughout the night. The
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Speaker 1: Australian Broadcasting Corporation reported to this day, I feel horrible, remorseful,
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Speaker 1: guilty for what I have done to Jake. Not only Jake,
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Speaker 1: but his family, his loved ones, his mutual friends, anyone
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Speaker 1: who has been impacted in this entire case. While Pole
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Speaker 1: told the court, according to the outlet, I founded very
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Speaker 1: hard to believe the injuries that were caused was from
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Speaker 1: my doing. I just don't believe I did the thing
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Speaker 1: that I did, adding I would do anything to go
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Speaker 1: back in time. She pleaded guilty to a one charge
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Speaker 1: of burning or maiming by using corrosive fluid. The ABC reported,
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Speaker 1: while Pole is due back in court this month for sentencing. Weird,
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Speaker 1: it doesn't it doesn't count as attempted murder. I don't
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Speaker 1: know how laws work in Australia.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because that is.
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Speaker 3: In fact, in my early reddit days, there were feminists
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Speaker 3: that came into the men's rights subreddit that posted two
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Speaker 3: different stories of apparent killing a pedophile to sort of
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Speaker 3: try to try to figure out a gotcha they could get,
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Speaker 3: you know, on MRAs like oh you said this or
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Speaker 3: you didn't say that or whatever. One of them was
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Speaker 3: an incident where the parent walked in on the pedophile
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Speaker 3: molesting the child and in that instance the pedophile was
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Speaker 3: beaten to death.
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Speaker 2: The other one the pedophile had gone.
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Speaker 3: To jail and had been and it's took place in Brazil,
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Speaker 3: and apparently they get some kind of weird weekend furloughs
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Speaker 3: that they get to go home, and you know, do
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Speaker 3: It's an alien concept to me. It's not something I've
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Speaker 3: ever heard of. I live in the United States, and
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Speaker 3: I don't think people who commit crimes as heinous as
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Speaker 3: what that guy was convicted of get out of jail
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Speaker 3: for much of anything. And if they do, they'd have
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Speaker 3: to have police with them, and they'd have to go
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Speaker 3: right back after the event, like if it was somebody's
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Speaker 3: funeral or something. But this guy was out and he
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Speaker 3: was walking around downtown and he was gonna go to
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Speaker 3: a bar, and he saw the mother of the victim
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Speaker 3: and asked how her daughter was doing right, and yeah,
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Speaker 3: and so of course she, in a fit of temper,
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Speaker 3: went home, got a gas can, went to a gas station,
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Speaker 3: got gasoline in it, and then went to the bar
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Speaker 3: and doused him and set him on fire. And we
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Speaker 3: were confronted with that versus the father who beat the
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Speaker 3: pedophile to death, and told by feminists that because there
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Speaker 3: was a different reaction to what the mother did, it
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Speaker 3: was discrimination. And several of us sorted out the fact
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Speaker 3: that we'll wait a minute, if she had done that,
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Speaker 3: you know, like she walk into the room and there
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Speaker 3: he is molesting her daughter, and she douses him and
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Speaker 3: sets him on fire. It would be the same as
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Speaker 3: the father beating the other the guy to death, because
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Speaker 3: that's an instant reaction. But she took like half an
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Speaker 3: hour going home, going to a gas station, getting the materials,
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Speaker 3: going back.
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Speaker 2: To the bar.
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Speaker 3: She had time to think about it. That's a different story, right.
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Speaker 3: And I've been in situations not quite like what this
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Speaker 3: woman here is described, because I don't.
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Speaker 1: Like being set on fire after taking cocaine and drugs.
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Speaker 2: And no, no like being I also.
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Speaker 3: Have not been in that situation because being in an
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Speaker 3: event where somebody is being antagonistic deliberately, and I've been
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Speaker 3: I've had that in person.
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Speaker 2: I've had that on live streams.
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Speaker 3: I've had you know, there've been in situations like that,
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Speaker 3: and you either handle it, you know, in a even
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Speaker 3: handed manner, at least a proportional manner to what's being
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Speaker 3: done to you, or you leave, you go, you call
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Speaker 3: an uber, you leave the live stream, whatever.
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Speaker 2: Right, you don't set somebody on fire.
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Speaker 3: And the fact that she was drunken on cocaine, that
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Speaker 3: just that just removes what she's.
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Speaker 1: Willing to admit to have been done. Well, we don't
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Speaker 1: know what else she was on, if anything. And the
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Speaker 1: thing is where she says he was being antagonistic, We
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Speaker 1: don't really know what that means, like we have.
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Speaker 3: To when she was trying to wrestle with her and stuff.
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Speaker 3: If he wasn't up for that, then she should have left.
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Speaker 3: Right If I'm someplace and there's a guy getting rough
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Speaker 3: with me, I'm not gonna be able to compete with
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Speaker 3: that roughness. I'm either leaving or if I feel threatened,
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Speaker 3: you know, then I'm gonna fight like an animal. But
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Speaker 3: animals don't use cocaine in her don't use a serene
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Speaker 3: an animal would just kick him in the nuts, you know,
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Speaker 3: and get out of there. Like if he's not threatening
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Speaker 3: and he's not stopping, then you just leave. You don't
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Speaker 3: have to fight back like that's those are your options.
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Speaker 3: Either he's too threatening and you have to leave with
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Speaker 3: some minor violence that gets you chance to go, or
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Speaker 3: he's non threatening and you don't have to use any
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Speaker 3: violence at all. Using extreme violence like setting somebody on fire,
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Speaker 3: is not just an overreaction.
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Speaker 2: That's what she did.
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Speaker 3: Was she felt dishonored by what he was doing, all right,
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Speaker 3: and she felt more and more dishonored by what she
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Speaker 3: was doing, and then she attempted an honor killing. This
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Speaker 3: was an attempted honor killing. If this was something that
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Speaker 3: a man did to a woman for insulting his honor
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Speaker 3: in some way or another, everybody would recognize this was
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Speaker 3: an attempted honor killing. People don't treat it like that,
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Speaker 3: do they?
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Speaker 1: Apparently not. Well, the real story here is not this.
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Speaker 1: I mean, this is messed up. But you know, we
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Speaker 1: host the news show and there are stories like this
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Speaker 1: all the time, similar ones. We just covered a woman
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Speaker 1: in Brazil who cut off her murdered her husband, cut
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Speaker 1: off his penis and then put it in like a
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Speaker 1: stew and cooked it and ate some of it, and
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Speaker 1: for all we know, she fed some of it to
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Speaker 1: other people, either knowingly or unknowingly. And you know, and
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Speaker 1: it was because he was watching porn. She caught him
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Speaker 1: watching porn. So yeah, this is this is not unusual.
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Speaker 1: But what and.
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Speaker 3: When stuff is done to women feminists talk about it
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Speaker 3: is they use the phrase honor killing. They talk about
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Speaker 3: it as honor killing, and they say the only people
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Speaker 3: who are subjected to honor killings are women. Well, it's
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Speaker 3: because when this stuff happens to men, people think it's funny,
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Speaker 3: you know, people laugh about it, or people say, oh,
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Speaker 3: he deserved it. He did this to he did that
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Speaker 3: to her. There isn't a thing mentioned in that story
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Speaker 3: extreme enough for her to engage in any form of
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Speaker 3: extreme violence, much less that. And honestly, if he had
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Speaker 3: been a threat to her, she wouldn't have had the
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Speaker 3: opportunity to do what she did. And I don't believe
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Speaker 3: her when she says she regrets it. I think she's
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Speaker 3: just saying she regrets it because this story went public.
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, well yeah, she got caught and no news.
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Speaker 1: It was an extreme case. So all right, But the
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Speaker 1: real story is the reaction to the story, especially on
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Speaker 1: x SO. Here we have a post from an account
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Speaker 1: called men being Awful, which I suppose is like the
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Speaker 1: counter to the women being Awful x you know account,
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Speaker 1: and yeah, it's yeah, basically it's a radfeme account that
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Speaker 1: in the description it says returning the same energy supporting
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Speaker 1: women rad fem so returning the same energy just screams like, oh,
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Speaker 1: there's a woman being awful account. We're gonna be the
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Speaker 1: opposite of that. We're gonna be the We're gonna balance
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Speaker 1: it out. Soh and men being awful wrote, as quoted
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Speaker 1: the New York Post article and said he shouldn't have
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Speaker 1: made a misogynistic comment. Men can't take accountability.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Can you imagine if the men being awful account posted
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Speaker 3: something about an honor killing in some foreign country and said,
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Speaker 3: well that it shouldn't have slept with that guy, right,
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Speaker 3: women can't take accountability Like that would have been pretty
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Speaker 3: much the equivalent.
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Speaker 2: This was.
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Speaker 3: Like I said, this was an attempt at honor killing.
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Speaker 3: She attempted to kill him for insulting her honor as
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Speaker 3: a woman. That's what misogyny quote unquote misogyny is just
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Speaker 3: women being offended that something that was said or done
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Speaker 3: does not give women their due deference as the special sex.
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Speaker 3: And that's basically men insult each other like that all
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Speaker 3: the time they get back in the kitchen thing. That's nothing.
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Speaker 3: That's absolutely nothing compared to how men should talk to
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Speaker 3: each other. And if she couldn't handle that, she's very fragile.
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Speaker 3: But the bottom video, it says, is cringe.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what the bottom video is. Oh no, yeah, it's.
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Speaker 3: You got to come up with something better than that.
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Speaker 2: Dieselpedes.
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Speaker 3: But yeah, it just just that alone, that account would
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Speaker 3: have been banned, and it probably won't be because you know,
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Speaker 3: they don't care as much when people say stuff like
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Speaker 3: that about men. But nobody deserves to be set on fire.
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Speaker 3: I've had third degree burns. I did it to myself
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Speaker 3: by accident. It's not it wasn't abuse. It was a
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Speaker 3: dumbass at the moment. But I've had third degree burns,
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Speaker 3: and it is an awful experience, even on a small
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Speaker 3: area of the body, and I just can't imagine what
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Speaker 3: this man went through. My heart really goes out to him. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: he really should move to like even he can't even
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Speaker 3: move to a cold climate though, because scar tissue sometimes,
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Speaker 3: especially if you've had nerve damage, it does two potential things.
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Speaker 3: It can be very adverse in cold situations. One is
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Speaker 3: that it can feel the cold worse, and the other
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Speaker 3: is that it doesn't feel it as much. And if
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Speaker 3: you feel the cold worse, it's very uncomfortable.
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Speaker 1: That's bad.
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Speaker 3: But if you don't feel it when you get cold
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Speaker 3: as much as you should, you can freeze to death
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Speaker 3: before you realize anything's wrong. It's like the boiling frog thing,
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Speaker 3: but with cold, extremely dangerous. So he's going to have
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Speaker 3: to be He's going to have to have somebody take
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Speaker 3: care of him for the rest of his life.
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Speaker 2: He can't be alone, and.
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Speaker 3: He's probably got scars that make it more difficult for
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Speaker 3: him to not be alone. Like more people are going
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Speaker 3: to avoid him because they don't know what to say
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Speaker 3: around the scars. It's just a horrible thing to do
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Speaker 3: to him. The guy in the story I was talking
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Speaker 3: about that the Reddit story survived for eleven days before
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Speaker 3: he passed away, and he lived with burn pain for
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Speaker 3: eleven days. So that woman had tortured the guy to death.
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Speaker 3: And there was this big debate like this guy did
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Speaker 3: pretty much nothing wrong, right, I don't care that he
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Speaker 3: said shit to her and he was goofing around and
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Speaker 3: trying to wrestle when she didn't want to wrestle, Like,
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Speaker 3: that's not really that big of a deal. If she
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Speaker 3: had decided she was going to leave the bar, he
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Speaker 3: would let her leave the bar. If she had decided,
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Speaker 3: you know, to ask security to calm him down, that
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Speaker 3: probably would work too. She didn't have to do what
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Speaker 3: she did. The debate in a subreddit over the pedal
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Speaker 3: that was set on fire as well. He was a
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Speaker 3: horrible person, so he deserved it. Nobody deserves it. He
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Speaker 3: deserved The guy that got burned to death deserved to
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Speaker 3: be in jail, and they really shouldn't have had a
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Speaker 3: furlough program for him because it was a dangerous criminal
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Speaker 3: shouldn't have been let out. But what happened to him
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Speaker 3: was still wrong, and what the woman did was still wrong,
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Speaker 3: and taking justice into your own hands is still wrong.
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Speaker 3: And it's not self defense at that point. It's not
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Speaker 3: defense of an innocent person at that point, it's just ego.
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Speaker 3: And you know that the thought that your own anger
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Speaker 3: legitimizes doing something that you would call reprehensible if somebody
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Speaker 3: else did it, And being angry doesn't justify that. So
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Speaker 3: that's one of the things where women project right. Men
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Speaker 3: can't take accountability, she says, but she thinks being angry
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Speaker 3: justifies doing something that you'd call reprehensible if somebody else
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Speaker 3: did it. Clearly, the person not taking accountability isn't the
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Speaker 3: man in this situation.
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Speaker 1: Well, on top of that, though, to this person men
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Speaker 1: being awful, the account says he shouldn't have made a
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Speaker 1: misogynistic comment. So what ultimately they're saying is is that
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Speaker 1: misogyny should be something that is illegal. There should be
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Speaker 1: like legal consequences to men saying to women jokingly get
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Speaker 1: back in the kitchen. And I say it. I know
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Speaker 1: it's shockingly because this isn't just some random guy. This
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Speaker 1: is like a according to the article, an old friend
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Speaker 1: of hers. So I have old friends and we you know,
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Speaker 1: we like dunk on each other, we rag each other whatever.
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Speaker 1: Nobody goes and sets people on fire. So obviously this
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Speaker 1: is not like this guy did nothing to deserve even
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Speaker 1: if she just did a general assault on him. If
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Speaker 1: they know each other, then this doesn't make any sense.
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Speaker 1: But this is not the end of this reaction. Okay,
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Speaker 1: So here we go. We got some comments here and
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Speaker 1: they're relatively it's polarized, which is wild. There is a
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Speaker 1: lot of people on the side of this woman that
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Speaker 1: this happened. And you see that this has fifty four
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Speaker 1: thousand likes from this account men being awful. Okay, a
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Speaker 1: thousand retweets. I don't know what counts as a ratio.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what that means, but some people are
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Speaker 1: calling it like rightfully raged babe. This one says this
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Speaker 1: is a parody account, right, but no, I don't think
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Speaker 1: it is. You see teacher stabbed woman fifteen times when
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Speaker 1: she rejected him, and men being awful said, have you
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Speaker 1: ever noticed that men always escalate their reactions times one hundred? Meanwhile,
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Speaker 1: woman sets men on fire for joking. Yeah, and this
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Speaker 1: person says he should have said no, which is another
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Speaker 1: like radfem. Basically, it's this whole like you know, take
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Speaker 1: on the rape culture thing where it's like like, well,
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Speaker 1: why don't you just tell the man no? Right? This
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Speaker 1: is what she's doing, like a spin on that he
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Speaker 1: only had himself to blame. Who says that murder is
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Speaker 1: not an art? I mean these are psychotic responses from
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Speaker 1: women on X Okay, it's literally he faced the consequences
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Speaker 1: of his actions.
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Speaker 2: Isn't it?
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Speaker 1: No? That's uh, that's.
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Speaker 2: When she was playing. It might be, it might be
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Speaker 2: it's any one red flag.
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Speaker 3: How did my video get so dark? Probably the light, yeah,
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Speaker 3: the light behind me, probably got right. One red flag
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Speaker 3: that women hand out for free to you if you're
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Speaker 3: you know, just getting to know a lady, if you
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Speaker 3: see in any way, shape or form that she identifies
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Speaker 3: with Marilyn Monroe or a representation of Marilyn Monroe.
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Speaker 2: Run.
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Speaker 3: Marilyn Monroe is a hot mess. Don't don't have anything
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Speaker 3: to do with a woman who identifies with Marilyn Monroe.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so more comments. It's Liam it's literally his fault
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Speaker 1: and he based the consequences of his actions.
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Speaker 2: So what's being argued there.
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Speaker 3: A lot of what's being argued there is that nothing
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Speaker 3: a man can do could be justified, right, but women
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Speaker 3: have the right somehow to engage in extreme violence and
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Speaker 3: potentially kill a man over words he said right because
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Speaker 3: he said the wrong thing. Now, one of the stereotypes,
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Speaker 3: one of the tropes that feminists like to promote about
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Speaker 3: societal tolerance for abuse of women is that it used
18:34
Speaker 3: to be okay for a man to smack his wife
18:37
Speaker 3: around if she said the wrong thing, if she mouthed
18:40
Speaker 3: off to him or talked bad about him and stuff,
18:42
Speaker 3: which is not true. It was never really acceptable for
18:45
Speaker 3: a man to smack his wife around. Here we have
18:47
Speaker 3: all these people just fulfilling that trope in the gender reverse.
18:51
Speaker 1: Charles says, men kill women for even pettier reasons. Not
18:55
Speaker 1: mad at all. Again, so completely baseless. Yeah, Alithia Dystopia,
19:02
Speaker 1: whose like I guess name includes a red heart, a
19:05
Speaker 1: bare face which sounds like pedophilia to me, female symbol
19:10
Speaker 1: and some hearts.
19:10
Speaker 3: Just put a car Go back to her, go back
19:13
Speaker 3: to her profile in she thinks women regregated spaces are
19:17
Speaker 3: human rights?
19:18
Speaker 1: Support?
19:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, But I want to I want to wonder would
19:21
Speaker 3: she support rolling back the court rulings that women fought
19:26
Speaker 3: hard for, went went to court for to to allow
19:29
Speaker 3: women into men's locker rooms and to allow girls into
19:32
Speaker 3: boys sports. Would she support taking those things away from women?
19:37
Speaker 3: Would she support prosecuting women as sex offenders for using
19:41
Speaker 3: the men's restroom when there's a long line for the ladies,
19:44
Speaker 3: not for any you know, desperation reason, just because they
19:47
Speaker 3: don't want to wait walking in on men who are
19:50
Speaker 3: exposed at urinals and didn't consent to being stared at.
19:54
Speaker 3: And and you know I would, I would say, if
19:57
Speaker 3: she really thinks that sex segregated spaces are a human rights,
20:00
Speaker 3: she should support prosecuting those women and stopping female reporters
20:04
Speaker 3: for going in from going into men's locker rooms. You know,
20:07
Speaker 3: you can always interview guys outside the locker room. You
20:10
Speaker 3: don't have to go in there. Nobody really should be
20:12
Speaker 3: going into the locker room. That should be, in my opinion,
20:15
Speaker 3: is a former athlete. That should be a safe haven
20:17
Speaker 3: for the athletes, and there should be a separate place
20:20
Speaker 3: to finally interview the athletes. Let them have their damn
20:24
Speaker 3: showers in peace. But men's clubs, like all the years
20:27
Speaker 3: that women sued to get into men's clubs and men's
20:30
Speaker 3: organizations that were organizations men had for recreational activities and
20:35
Speaker 3: just shooting the shit.
20:36
Speaker 2: The elimination of.
20:37
Speaker 3: Stag bars for anybody who's not a boomer, a stag
20:40
Speaker 3: bar was basically a male only bar. They didn't tell
20:42
Speaker 3: women they couldn't come in. They just didn't make it
20:44
Speaker 3: comfortable for women, Like there might only be one restroom
20:46
Speaker 3: and it might not have a door, you know.
20:48
Speaker 2: Things like that.
20:49
Speaker 3: Stag bars they weren't fancy they most for the most part,
20:52
Speaker 3: they were kind of just you know, the goal was
20:55
Speaker 3: to go in there and drink and maybe talk sports
20:58
Speaker 3: and you know, read newspaper papers and play cards and shit.
21:01
Speaker 3: But you weren't going in there looking for chicks. You
21:04
Speaker 3: were just going in there maybe to get away from
21:06
Speaker 3: them for a little while, have some relief. And you
21:09
Speaker 3: know all those places that women have eliminated men's sex
21:13
Speaker 3: segregated spaces, maybe we should start restoring those and allowing
21:17
Speaker 3: men to have their own spaces again and tell women that, no,
21:21
Speaker 3: you can't sue to get in here because you believe
21:24
Speaker 3: that sex segregated spaces are human right, correct. So if
21:28
Speaker 3: men can't come into your spaces, you can't go into
21:30
Speaker 3: theirs either. You can have mixed spaces and you can
21:34
Speaker 3: have your sex segregated spaces, and they can have theirs.
21:37
Speaker 3: But women don't leave it like that. Women want their
21:40
Speaker 3: sex segregated spaces, but they don't want men to have
21:44
Speaker 3: any time or place where they can get out from
21:47
Speaker 3: under female supervision and get away from female nagging and
21:50
Speaker 3: get away from female interference and everything they're doing. And
21:53
Speaker 3: so they sue, and they've been suing for fifty years
21:57
Speaker 3: and now they're mad because it's starting to go the
21:59
Speaker 3: other way. Sorry, ladies, I get no sympathy.
22:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, a scout finger shows. So apparently there are TikTok
22:05
Speaker 1: comments with this. Let's look at some of them. He
22:07
Speaker 1: couldn't fight back. Was he wearing something suggestive? So remember
22:11
Speaker 1: these are feminists we're talking about so they're gonna their
22:13
Speaker 1: whole thing is trying to like make one story sound
22:17
Speaker 1: like something that they're supposedly fighting against that they made
22:20
Speaker 1: up in their heads. So, but clothing is flammable. Surely
22:23
Speaker 1: it knew, he knew it would happen. Okay, she's twenty
22:27
Speaker 1: four in an athlete, she has a whole life ahead
22:30
Speaker 1: of her. Let's not ruin her life over one mistake.
22:33
Speaker 1: These are real serious comments. That's a Korean account right there.
22:37
Speaker 1: Probably one of those be hardcore feminists. Right, I'm confused.
22:41
Speaker 1: Why didn't he run away? I'm confused.
22:43
Speaker 3: I stop there for a minute. So in the story
22:46
Speaker 3: he egged her on, he was probably also drunk, right,
22:49
Speaker 3: he was probably also maybe.
22:51
Speaker 2: They're in it.
22:51
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know about whether he was on drugs
22:53
Speaker 3: or not, because so when you go out partying with people,
22:56
Speaker 3: some people are into drugs and some people, yeah, like
22:58
Speaker 3: and I've been in green people where I was the
23:01
Speaker 3: only sober person too, So it's possible that he was
23:03
Speaker 3: the only He might have been the designated driver. But
23:06
Speaker 3: egging her on was stupid, and feminists like to argue
23:11
Speaker 3: that nothing a woman does or doesn't do in a
23:15
Speaker 3: criminal perpetration situation is responsible for what makes them responsible
23:21
Speaker 3: for what the perpetrator did, And that's true. You can
23:23
Speaker 3: walk you're not responsible for the perpetrator's choices. Even if
23:27
Speaker 3: you walk half naked down a dark alley with cash
23:30
Speaker 3: hanging out of your pockets and a sign over your
23:32
Speaker 3: head saying I don't know what's going on around me,
23:34
Speaker 3: and then you get jumped and mugged and raped. That
23:37
Speaker 3: was still their choice. But you were vulnerable because you
23:41
Speaker 3: walk down that alley like that, and you had the
23:43
Speaker 3: experience that you didn't have to have because of your choices.
23:47
Speaker 3: Just like this guy made himself more vulnerable by egging
23:51
Speaker 3: her on. He didn't know when he egged her on
23:55
Speaker 3: what she was going to do, because people who are
23:57
Speaker 3: high and drunk can behave in an un predictable manner.
24:01
Speaker 2: So that was stupid.
24:02
Speaker 3: But it's still just like, you know, the point they're
24:05
Speaker 3: trying to make, doesn't It doesn't excuse the rapist actions,
24:09
Speaker 3: and and by the way, in society, it never has
24:12
Speaker 3: excused the rapist actions. No, we've never had that situation.
24:18
Speaker 3: It's always been something that it's always been a feminist trope.
24:21
Speaker 3: It's always been a feminist lie. But we have seen
24:24
Speaker 3: people trying to excuse that women's actions because he made
24:28
Speaker 3: her mad, which nobody makes you mad. You get you
24:31
Speaker 3: get mad because of your ego, all right, you get
24:35
Speaker 3: mad because you're offended at something. The only other time
24:38
Speaker 3: you get mad that's not because of your ego is
24:41
Speaker 3: because you're mad on someone else's behalf because they've been
24:44
Speaker 3: harmed and you value them. So she made herself mad
24:47
Speaker 3: over what he did, and that's that's the excuse people use.
24:51
Speaker 3: That's not his fault, that's her fault, and her actions
24:54
Speaker 3: are entirely her fault. And historically, when women are asked
24:59
Speaker 3: what they did or what they were doing at the
25:02
Speaker 3: time when they were raped or when they were assaulted,
25:05
Speaker 3: it's usually to try to figure out clues if they
25:08
Speaker 3: don't know who the perpetrator is, for ways to make
25:13
Speaker 3: the jury more sympathetic. You know, he got her when
25:15
Speaker 3: she was taking a bath, or you know he got
25:18
Speaker 3: her when she was unaware of her certain situation, or
25:20
Speaker 3: she was lost or this was going on. And the
25:23
Speaker 3: same thing. They take your clothes when you go in
25:25
Speaker 3: and report, like especially if you go to the hospital
25:28
Speaker 3: and you get a rape kit done and they take
25:30
Speaker 3: your clothes because they're looking for the rapist hair and
25:35
Speaker 3: the rapist bodily fluids.
25:36
Speaker 2: The rapist like.
25:37
Speaker 3: Skin cells, not fingernail bits. It's the same reason they
25:40
Speaker 3: scrape under your fingernails in case you scratched off bits
25:44
Speaker 3: of skin when you were fighting. Right, it's the same
25:47
Speaker 3: reason they swabbed the inside of your mouth.
25:49
Speaker 2: Right.
25:49
Speaker 3: They're looking for ways to prove the perpetrator was guilty,
25:53
Speaker 3: and women get offended by that and they're like, oh,
25:55
Speaker 3: they're looking for clues that I was lying. No, they're
25:58
Speaker 3: looking for a way to make a case against the
26:01
Speaker 3: guy that did this to you. And these people getting
26:03
Speaker 3: upset about that and going along with the feminist lie.
26:06
Speaker 3: All they're doing is making other women afraid to go
26:10
Speaker 3: in and get that rape kit done and report to
26:14
Speaker 3: police that something happened to them and go through the
26:17
Speaker 3: questioning process. Like every piece of information you give the
26:21
Speaker 3: police after a crime helps them nail the perpetrator. And
26:26
Speaker 3: it's a real disservice to victims when they spread these myths.
26:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, they're just trying to take something that applied,
26:33
Speaker 1: Like this woman was partying partying hard with friends and
26:38
Speaker 1: they were all horsing around. Most likely they're in their
26:41
Speaker 1: early twenties. Everybody involved she's known. She's obviously known these
26:45
Speaker 1: people well enough that she was comfortable with getting drunken
26:49
Speaker 1: high around them. Then, because one guy got on her
26:52
Speaker 1: nerves and I guess he liked rough house a little bit,
26:55
Speaker 1: she sets him on fire. And the feminists in these
26:57
Speaker 1: comments are treating that the same as you know, when
27:00
Speaker 1: women are investigating or when police are investigating a sexual
27:05
Speaker 1: assault or something more severe involving a woman, and they're
27:08
Speaker 1: asking questions to understand the context, one of which is,
27:12
Speaker 1: you know, like what they're saying is like where they
27:14
Speaker 1: wearing something suggestive, which, by the way, doesn't really happen anymore.
27:19
Speaker 1: Like I don't think it happens really. I think generally
27:21
Speaker 1: they're just they just get the facts. They ask factual questions,
27:24
Speaker 1: you know what we're when did it happen, What were
27:27
Speaker 1: you wearing, what was he wearing, what does he look like?
27:29
Speaker 1: Et cetera. And feminists think it's offensive, And the reason
27:33
Speaker 1: why is because ultimately their goal is to eliminate due
27:35
Speaker 1: process completely. They just want to be able to throw
27:38
Speaker 1: guys in jail for anything. That's all it is. Because
27:40
Speaker 1: if you can't gather information in order to investigate a
27:45
Speaker 1: crime or potential crime, part of the investigation of the crime,
27:48
Speaker 1: by the way, is leaving some room for the possibility
27:52
Speaker 1: that the woman is lying, just like anybody, Like if
27:55
Speaker 1: I just call nine one one right now and I
27:57
Speaker 1: just say something's happening, the cops have a part of
28:00
Speaker 1: their due diligence is to make sure that what I'm
28:03
Speaker 1: saying is not a lie, because it costs money for
28:06
Speaker 1: police to investigate and time and manpower. Right, feminists don't
28:11
Speaker 1: think any of that should exist. They think that women
28:14
Speaker 1: should just be believed wholesale all the time, that men
28:17
Speaker 1: should do whoever they point the finger a should just
28:19
Speaker 1: be thrown in jail. Due process should not exist, you know,
28:23
Speaker 1: and that not even like the concept of preponderance of
28:26
Speaker 1: evidence would exist if it was up to them. I mean,
28:29
Speaker 1: you can just look at the Meto movement as an example.
28:32
Speaker 1: So when these women are trying to point out this
28:35
Speaker 1: hypocrisy which is completely like just factually incorrect in the
28:39
Speaker 1: way that they're applying it, what they're trying to do, yeah,
28:42
Speaker 1: it's all in their heads, but they're trying to make
28:44
Speaker 1: craft a narrative on how they think the law should work,
28:47
Speaker 1: and they're making shit up so that it supports their position.
28:51
Speaker 1: That's all it is. So these people are not logical.
28:54
Speaker 1: They're not supposed to be. It's all a means to
28:57
Speaker 1: an end, right, So when they say this, they're emotionally
29:00
Speaker 1: manipulating their audience, and they're trying to emotionally manipulate like
29:04
Speaker 1: all of you, anybody who sees it into essentially doing
29:08
Speaker 1: something that we're already pre programmed to do, which is
29:11
Speaker 1: essentially support women. So, all right, more comments from the TikTok.
29:15
Speaker 1: She has the promising future ahead of her. Hopingly this
29:17
Speaker 1: tiny little setback won't affect her. Fingers crossed.
29:21
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty much what was said about the lady
29:24
Speaker 3: that stabbed her with a bread knife. They act like
29:27
Speaker 3: this is this is something that gets said about men.
29:30
Speaker 3: They act like this is something that is normal for
29:33
Speaker 3: when when a man gets busted for doing something to
29:37
Speaker 3: a woman or gets accused, or like in the the
29:42
Speaker 3: brock Turner case where the judge had a different opinion
29:47
Speaker 3: on his level of guilt than the jury did and
29:50
Speaker 3: so gave him a lighter sentence, and and it was
29:53
Speaker 3: based on his belief that he had consent, and they
29:58
Speaker 3: you know, they'll go ballistic about stuff like that. But
30:02
Speaker 3: I didn't see a single feminist speak out against that
30:05
Speaker 3: bread knife ruling where the attempted murderer and you used
30:08
Speaker 3: to somebody in a leg, you can you can hit
30:11
Speaker 3: the that would be the femeral artery, and that person
30:14
Speaker 3: can bleed out. I always wanted to get it mixed
30:18
Speaker 3: up with the brachial armory. The brachial artery is in
30:21
Speaker 3: the arm and the femeral artery is in the leg.
30:23
Speaker 2: But they're they're both.
30:24
Speaker 3: Yeah, they carry a shitload of blood.
30:26
Speaker 2: Is the point.
30:27
Speaker 3: She could have killed him, right, And the exact logic
30:31
Speaker 3: for her getting let off easy was that she had
30:35
Speaker 3: her whole life ahead of her, that she was young
30:38
Speaker 3: and smart and exceptional and it would be a shame
30:41
Speaker 3: to waste her her skills and talents. And nobody in
30:45
Speaker 3: the feminist movement came out and said this is this
30:49
Speaker 3: is wrong, and it makes women look bad. But you know,
30:53
Speaker 3: in the in the brock Turner situation, where both parties
30:55
Speaker 3: were at the level of drunk where you lose the
30:58
Speaker 3: ability to appraise your actions, he was painted as a
31:02
Speaker 3: monstrous predator who you know did this out of malice
31:06
Speaker 3: and was dangerous to the community, and there is no
31:09
Speaker 3: excuse for his light sentence and for him getting out
31:13
Speaker 3: on good behavior and all that. And feminists showed up
31:15
Speaker 3: in his neighborhood, in his residential neighborhood, which at the
31:19
Speaker 3: time was here in the Dayton metro area, and brought
31:21
Speaker 3: guns that were powerful enough to shoot through brick and
31:25
Speaker 3: mortar and had a protest march outside his home in
31:28
Speaker 3: his residential neighborhood where other people lived with their kids.
31:32
Speaker 3: And these are the same people, by the way, that
31:34
Speaker 3: probably protest against things like bump stocks, but they showed
31:38
Speaker 3: up with those kind of guns themselves.
31:40
Speaker 2: They want to be able to have them, but you
31:42
Speaker 2: know you can't.
31:43
Speaker 3: And so, you know, the hypocrisy is just insane, right,
31:47
Speaker 3: It's just at an insane level, and the lack of
31:50
Speaker 3: awareness is at an equally insane level.
31:53
Speaker 1: Jasmine says, I need to hear her side of the story.
31:56
Speaker 1: It was definitely an accident because she has a father
31:59
Speaker 1: and brothers shouldn't have gone there or been hanging out
32:02
Speaker 1: with her. But again, he was her friend, Like why
32:04
Speaker 1: would you think, like if your friend said, hey, let's
32:07
Speaker 1: go out for drinks. Why would you say, oh, well,
32:09
Speaker 1: you know, she is my friend, I've known her for years,
32:11
Speaker 1: but she just might set me on fire. Like nobody's
32:14
Speaker 1: thinking that now, No, like you know, so to say,
32:18
Speaker 1: like he shouldn't have gone like dude, yea.
32:22
Speaker 3: What she's comparing to is stories where you know, sex
32:27
Speaker 3: that may or may not have been consensual, and there's
32:29
Speaker 3: debate after the fact is deemed raped by one side,
32:34
Speaker 3: and you know, the other side says, well, at the
32:36
Speaker 3: time she consented, now she's saying she didn't. And of
32:40
Speaker 3: course you need to hear both sides of the story
32:43
Speaker 3: in that instance, because one side is either lying or mistaken,
32:46
Speaker 3: and either a crime has been committed against the accuser
32:50
Speaker 3: or the accusers.
32:52
Speaker 2: Leveling a false allegation.
32:53
Speaker 3: And in some cases, you know, there's been like I
32:58
Speaker 3: knew a gal who was convinced by friends that well
33:03
Speaker 3: not really friends, by her women's studies class, that instances
33:07
Speaker 3: that she engaged in multiple times at parties that she
33:11
Speaker 3: initiated herself well drunk, where instances where some guy raped
33:15
Speaker 3: her because she couldn't consent because she was drunk. And
33:18
Speaker 3: you know, there's a huge difference between attacking someone, like
33:22
Speaker 3: maliciously attacking someone and looking at a circumstance where an
33:28
Speaker 3: individual's decision making processes are skewed because of alcohol and saying, well,
33:34
Speaker 3: did they really have the capacity to consent to that?
33:37
Speaker 3: It's a much more murky debate. And so what this woman,
33:41
Speaker 3: this Jasmine is doing, if that's a real name, is
33:44
Speaker 3: she is trying to equate a straightforward attack that was malicious,
33:49
Speaker 3: that was an attempted honor killing to the murky bog
33:54
Speaker 3: of consent well intoxicated. You know, how intoxicated do you
33:58
Speaker 3: get before you're consented?
34:00
Speaker 2: Invalid?
34:00
Speaker 3: And can you initiate well intoxicated and still be said
34:04
Speaker 3: not to consent? Not an equivalent there? That's that's called
34:08
Speaker 3: a false economy.
34:09
Speaker 1: The other thing to remember, too is that after she
34:13
Speaker 1: was confronted after the incident and the police and everything,
34:16
Speaker 1: he said, this is her defense. She pled guilty. So
34:19
Speaker 1: that's another thing that when she says I need to
34:21
Speaker 1: hear her side of the story, it's like, no, no,
34:22
Speaker 1: she pled guilty. She said, yes, I did this, And
34:25
Speaker 1: her reasoning was that she had a bad breakup in
34:29
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, like three years prior, and that for
34:33
Speaker 1: whatever reason, she never got over that guy. Now this
34:36
Speaker 1: guy is not, from what I know, the same guy.
34:39
Speaker 1: That's not the same guy. There's no romantic you know, undertones.
34:42
Speaker 1: It's not a love interest. It's a friend, a male friend,
34:47
Speaker 1: the same guy. No, I know it wouldn't matter obviously,
34:49
Speaker 1: but I'm saying it's not even that, like you couldn't
34:52
Speaker 1: even But she's trying to make an emotional case like
34:55
Speaker 1: I was in a bad place because breakup. Therefore I
34:58
Speaker 1: can set fire to people and you should be sympathetic
35:01
Speaker 1: to me. And there are women that are sympathetic today.
35:03
Speaker 1: It's almost like when we make laws, we have to
35:07
Speaker 1: disregard feelings, like we have to because if women made laws,
35:11
Speaker 1: they would do it on feelings. They'd be like, well,
35:13
Speaker 1: I didn't like this guy because he gave me the ick,
35:16
Speaker 1: let's hang him.
35:17
Speaker 3: You know, both my parents passed away in twenty twenty one.
35:20
Speaker 3: I have yet set anyone on fire.
35:22
Speaker 1: You haven't set anybody on fire for them? No, No,
35:24
Speaker 1: well you know you're justified if you decide to do it.
35:26
Speaker 1: So because you're a woman, you can just make the case.
35:29
Speaker 2: There we go.
35:30
Speaker 3: No, Like, I've had lots of bad breakups, Okay, I've
35:35
Speaker 3: had a shit ton.
35:36
Speaker 2: Of very bad breakups.
35:37
Speaker 3: I've never taken three to get over one for one
35:43
Speaker 3: thing and for another thing. I don't think I've ever
35:46
Speaker 3: taken bad breakups out on anybody else, right, And I
35:53
Speaker 3: don't know. Maybe my bad breakups aren't like other people's
35:55
Speaker 3: bad breakups. It's just I feel bad about the way
35:57
Speaker 3: the breakup went every single time, matter what it was.
36:00
Speaker 3: And you know, years later I find out that you know,
36:04
Speaker 3: the other person did too, felt bad about how things went.
36:07
Speaker 3: But this is there is no there is no excuse
36:11
Speaker 3: to engage in violence. Right, to initiate violence, It's unprovoked,
36:16
Speaker 3: even if you're angry, even if the person mouthed off
36:18
Speaker 3: to you, even if the person has something you want
36:21
Speaker 3: or took something of yours. It's unprovoked to be violent
36:24
Speaker 3: on your own towards this other person and and engage
36:29
Speaker 3: in in wrongdoing and harm just because you're offended, right.
36:35
Speaker 3: It's it's only when somebody else is engaged in violence
36:38
Speaker 3: against you and you're defending yourself that your violence is justified.
36:42
Speaker 3: And then you want to use the least that you
36:44
Speaker 3: have to in order to get out of that situation,
36:47
Speaker 3: and and then you leave the situation, you leave the environment,
36:52
Speaker 3: and where that's what's happening, you don't continue to engage
36:55
Speaker 3: in violence.
36:56
Speaker 2: The only time that.
36:57
Speaker 3: You should pursue this level of violence is if you're
37:01
Speaker 3: in a situation where somebody has made it impossible for
37:05
Speaker 3: you to stop them engaging in violence against you without
37:08
Speaker 3: going to this extreme level. There's every excuse they're going
37:11
Speaker 3: to make. Everything that they're going to say here, it's
37:14
Speaker 3: all going to be bullshit. There's no point at which
37:17
Speaker 3: feminists are going to have something to say about this,
37:19
Speaker 3: either as an excuse or as a look that we
37:22
Speaker 3: can we can say this thing and make this false equivalence.
37:25
Speaker 3: There's no point at which they're going to come up
37:27
Speaker 3: with an equivalent in the way that women are treated
37:30
Speaker 3: in society and female victimhood is treated in society. They're
37:34
Speaker 3: going to try, but it's never going to work because
37:37
Speaker 3: our society has compassion for female victims. Right if somebody
37:42
Speaker 3: did this to a woman in Australia, not only would
37:45
Speaker 3: it be national news, but there would be marches, there
37:48
Speaker 3: would be legislation introduced, there would be feminists making hay
37:53
Speaker 3: with it for decades. This incident happened.
37:56
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, TV show on Amazon, like they would do,
38:01
Speaker 1: like it would be every.
38:02
Speaker 2: Made for TV movie here in the United States.
38:05
Speaker 3: The United States would have people doing protests and introducing legislation,
38:09
Speaker 3: and they'd probably name it after the victim, the burning victim,
38:14
Speaker 3: you know, like if her name, if her name was Susie,
38:16
Speaker 3: we'd have Susie's Law, and you know about and then
38:19
Speaker 3: there'd be extra punishment if the abuse that you engage
38:24
Speaker 3: in against a person of the opposite sex, you know,
38:26
Speaker 3: when you're a guy, involves fire in any way or
38:31
Speaker 3: some such bullshit, and that's that's how it go. And
38:35
Speaker 3: here we have people making jokes about it. Here we
38:38
Speaker 3: have people saying, well, he was asking for it because
38:40
Speaker 3: he said something misogynistic. Here we have people, uh, you know,
38:44
Speaker 3: talking about it like it's the equivalent of things that
38:46
Speaker 3: are much more mild. And feminists call that minimalizing. I think,
38:54
Speaker 3: where you wouldquate an extreme active violence with a mild
38:57
Speaker 3: active violence and say, see, you don't like it when
39:00
Speaker 3: it happens to you, when in fact, you know, it's
39:03
Speaker 3: it's a lot worse what happened to him than what
39:06
Speaker 3: they're protesting against. Right there, there are stories like this
39:12
Speaker 3: that they could have compared it to. But these feminists
39:15
Speaker 3: don't understand and don't they're probably not aware of them
39:19
Speaker 3: because they didn't happen in Western culture.
39:22
Speaker 2: Right.
39:22
Speaker 3: There's there are bride burnings that took place in India
39:27
Speaker 3: and there are it's it's something that happens to both sexes,
39:31
Speaker 3: but again, it gets cared about more when it happens
39:33
Speaker 3: to women, and there was there was a big push
39:38
Speaker 3: for changes in law and policy partly because of those
39:40
Speaker 3: bride burnings, and not one of these women has mentioned that, right,
39:44
Speaker 3: because it's not what there's not what's on their mind,
39:47
Speaker 3: the little minor issues of women having to prove their
39:51
Speaker 3: case when they want to accuse a man of rape,
39:53
Speaker 3: or evidence collection being uncomfortable. Sure, it's uncomfortable. It's you
39:58
Speaker 3: have to remember everything that happened when that's going on.
40:01
Speaker 3: But you know, in the end, if you get a conviction,
40:04
Speaker 3: it's worth it going through that because then you know
40:08
Speaker 3: you have the opportunity that this this person may you know,
40:12
Speaker 3: go through the prison system and be reformed. But yeah,
40:16
Speaker 3: they didn't, they didn't have any of that on their mind.
40:19
Speaker 3: It's it's all the little things because they don't pay
40:21
Speaker 3: attention to the big things. They don't really care about
40:24
Speaker 3: the big things, and they don't really care about gender
40:27
Speaker 3: issues that they're talking about. They only care about hating
40:30
Speaker 3: on men.
40:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like collective revenge for imagined slights. And yeah,
40:35
Speaker 1: so like if you see here, every time something like
40:37
Speaker 1: this happens, we we're just supposed to presume that the victim,
40:40
Speaker 1: the male victim in this story, must have done something
40:43
Speaker 1: to deserve it, is not a good person. Therefore, everyone's
40:47
Speaker 1: just kind of like post hawk rationalizing why she set
40:50
Speaker 1: a man on fire and not just saying maybe she
40:53
Speaker 1: was fucking insane so and or just evil, like she
40:56
Speaker 1: just like bought into all the propaganda herself, like it,
41:00
Speaker 1: you know, the fact that he was wrestling with her
41:02
Speaker 1: is like the excuse, Like that wasn't wrestling, that was
41:05
Speaker 1: something more sinister. So it says here, this is more
41:08
Speaker 1: clips from Instagram about the story. Free her. Somebody says,
41:12
Speaker 1: so they just want her freed, you know, like Luigi Mangioni.
41:15
Speaker 1: And then someone says, and let him do the same
41:17
Speaker 1: thing to her. She is asking for it. So they're
41:20
Speaker 1: basically saying, if if this was reversed, they would ask
41:23
Speaker 1: what she did to deserve it, like that's something we
41:25
Speaker 1: even do. And then the last person says, free all
41:28
Speaker 1: the grapists with good reasons. So the I mean, these
41:32
Speaker 1: are pretty it's a pretty dark response. Here's another post
41:36
Speaker 1: me show you guys here. This is from an account
41:39
Speaker 1: called fuck It we Ball and they said he told
41:42
Speaker 1: her to stay in the kitchen, so she literally cooked him.
41:45
Speaker 1: This diva crying but tears of joy that a man
41:50
Speaker 1: made a comment a joke and it wasn't even like,
41:53
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're gonna get set on fire for
41:54
Speaker 1: a joke, you should just go all in like and
41:57
Speaker 1: say something really like, really wrote them before they roast you,
42:01
Speaker 1: you know. And we see the responses to this boy mfg,
42:05
Speaker 1: men joke about women suffering all the time in the
42:07
Speaker 1: name of dark humor. The second I flipped the script
42:10
Speaker 1: to show the double standards, it's chaos, y'all. The same
42:13
Speaker 1: ones who tell women it's just a joke, don't take
42:15
Speaker 1: it so seriously. So this is the same person who
42:17
Speaker 1: made the account after, you know, basically getting like people saying, dude,
42:21
Speaker 1: this is really messed up. She's like, I'm joking, guys,
42:24
Speaker 1: just a joke. I was just pretending to be retarded.
42:27
Speaker 1: Don't take it so seriously, So now laugh it off
42:29
Speaker 1: and move the f on.
42:31
Speaker 3: No, well, men say, don't take it so seriously. It's
42:34
Speaker 3: a get back in the kitchen joke. Will women say,
42:36
Speaker 3: don't take it so seriously. It's a it's a dick
42:38
Speaker 3: amputation joke? Or is setting him on fire joke? Or
42:41
Speaker 3: stabbing him to death joke? Or pushing him over a
42:43
Speaker 3: cliff joke? You get the difference?
42:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, yeah, a little bit. I can kind of
42:48
Speaker 1: see what you're saying. There's a slight difference. It's slightly disproportionate.
42:52
Speaker 1: Keletor there's a woman high on cocaine. I should say
42:55
Speaker 1: it like him, a woman high on cocaine burn fifty
42:58
Speaker 1: five percent of this man's body and scott him for
43:00
Speaker 1: life over our band comment he made while drunk.
43:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's.
43:06
Speaker 1: That's all I imagine. And I and I you know,
43:09
Speaker 1: I love Skeletor. I agree with him. He's always he's
43:11
Speaker 1: always on point. So anyway, and let's see, we can't
43:17
Speaker 1: let one mistake to destroy her life. Plus what was
43:20
Speaker 1: she wearing? What was he wearing? If he didn't want
43:22
Speaker 1: to be set on fire, maybe avoid flammable clothes, and
43:25
Speaker 1: has he even said others couldn't do it?
43:27
Speaker 2: So many unanswers not an original thought in this bunch.
43:30
Speaker 1: They all do the same thing. Were clothes flammable? Because
43:33
Speaker 1: he's asking for it. It's like the only thing these
43:36
Speaker 1: people have to go to, most of whom are feminist women,
43:39
Speaker 1: but some of them are men. Is the fire going
43:41
Speaker 1: to therapy? What?
43:43
Speaker 3: So they they can't admit that the perpetrator was the woman,
43:48
Speaker 3: so they have to to point to the thing that
43:51
Speaker 3: she used, the weapon that she used. It'd be like saying,
43:54
Speaker 3: you know, is the gun going to therapy? You know,
43:58
Speaker 3: we're talking about my experience. Is the gun going to therapy?
44:03
Speaker 3: Instead of ignoring or instead of talking about the perpetrators, he.
44:07
Speaker 1: Was asking for it. I hope she gets a light sentence.
44:10
Speaker 1: He stirred things up, so he should be accountable too.
44:13
Speaker 1: He should be held accountable. Guys. Forget the coma and
44:16
Speaker 1: the fifty five degree like percent burns all over his body,
44:20
Speaker 1: and the fact that he can't go out into the
44:22
Speaker 1: sun anymore. Forget that he needs to be held accountable
44:25
Speaker 1: for those words. This is like, this is absolutely unhinged behavior,
44:30
Speaker 1: absolutely unhinged Okay, men being Awful. I wanted to go
44:38
Speaker 1: to the account. So there's another account called women being Awful,
44:42
Speaker 1: and this is the reaction to it. I just want
44:43
Speaker 1: to show you, guys, because I thought it was funny.
44:46
Speaker 1: So this one has twenty nine thousand followers, one hundred
44:48
Speaker 1: and twenty three people following. That means they're following one
44:51
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty three accounts. Yeah, and it's got twenty
44:54
Speaker 1: nine thousand accounts Women being Awful, So.
44:57
Speaker 3: They don't follow back obviously.
44:59
Speaker 1: No I guess not. No, no, no, they don't. They don't.
45:02
Speaker 1: Women being Awful as way more followers. And the thing is,
45:07
Speaker 1: it's also the context of this. This is this is
45:09
Speaker 1: interesting men being awful. It's it's at pink cells, which,
45:13
Speaker 1: by the way, when you say I had a bad breakup,
45:15
Speaker 1: therefore I deserve to set somebody on fire. That sounds
45:18
Speaker 1: like the kind of talk that feminists would accuse in
45:21
Speaker 1: cells of engaging in even though in cells don't engage
45:24
Speaker 1: in it.
45:24
Speaker 3: Right, by the way, pink cells would be like them cells,
45:28
Speaker 3: you know, or some other name for the mythical female
45:32
Speaker 3: in cell. But there are no female in cells. There
45:34
Speaker 3: are only women who think that they're too good for
45:37
Speaker 3: the men that they merit.
45:38
Speaker 1: Yes, there is no such thing as a female in cell.
45:41
Speaker 1: Like they're like there are absolute beasts that can get
45:44
Speaker 1: laid if they're willing to lower their standards, and men
45:47
Speaker 1: have none almost, I mean, like at least a lot
45:50
Speaker 1: of them. So anyway, this one in the description that
45:53
Speaker 1: just says returning the same energy supporting women rat fem.
45:57
Speaker 1: So this is like support women blanket. Okay, Andy, they
46:00
Speaker 1: live in miss injury area, so they're they're open lifts
46:04
Speaker 1: what their belief system is. If you look at women
46:06
Speaker 1: being awful, it's actually very specific. It just says women
46:09
Speaker 1: are amazing, just not these women actual cases of women
46:13
Speaker 1: being horrible. Men's cringe and more and so like, this
46:16
Speaker 1: is actually a much more fair and balanced, you know account,
46:21
Speaker 1: maybe even a little bit too fair by you know,
46:23
Speaker 1: because you don't have to I personally, it really annoys
46:25
Speaker 1: me when people have to say I think women are amazing,
46:28
Speaker 1: but let me make this criticism. It's like, dude, shut up,
46:31
Speaker 1: Like we get it. People are people. There are good
46:33
Speaker 1: people that are bad people. Most people are mixed bag.
46:35
Speaker 1: You don't have to do that. You don't have to
46:37
Speaker 1: open up with here, by the way, guys not sexist.
46:40
Speaker 1: Well okay, now, okay, now I'm gonna make my I'm
46:44
Speaker 1: gonna say my piece.
46:45
Speaker 3: I'm got to point out something like all of civilization
46:48
Speaker 3: was built by men.
46:50
Speaker 2: Stop saying women are amazing.
46:52
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, well that's what I'm saying. Like, it's just
46:54
Speaker 1: really it irritates me because I know what people are
46:57
Speaker 1: doing is they're covering their ass. And the fact that
46:59
Speaker 1: we have to go around covering our ass before we
47:01
Speaker 1: open our mouths and make the stated opinion just shows
47:04
Speaker 1: how like feminine the entire world is that we have
47:08
Speaker 1: to be like, Okay, look, I don't want to hurt
47:09
Speaker 1: your feelings, but I'm gonna say something has nothing to
47:12
Speaker 1: do with you.
47:13
Speaker 3: Frank Aguatar has a pertinent statement. So the women who
47:16
Speaker 3: have common sense are amazing. I'll agree with that, because
47:19
Speaker 3: there aren't very many, no, not, and I try to.
47:22
Speaker 2: Have common sense. But I've noticed, you know, it's.
47:25
Speaker 3: Actually a challenge in modern society because we are encouraged
47:28
Speaker 3: to not have any common sense at all. Common sense
47:30
Speaker 3: is a male characteristic.
47:32
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, all right, so let me go back to this.
47:35
Speaker 1: I mean we're almost at the hour, which is when
47:38
Speaker 1: I wanted to wrap it up. But is there anything
47:39
Speaker 1: else about this you want to say? Allison made some
47:42
Speaker 1: comments to me. She said, I just want to point
47:45
Speaker 1: out the most egregious part of this. Women are treating
47:47
Speaker 1: this like a teachable moment for men. They're saying, see,
47:50
Speaker 1: this is what it's like when men say what was
47:53
Speaker 1: she wearing? But people who say that aren't actually excusing rape,
47:56
Speaker 1: nor are they saying the men shouldn't be punished. Are
48:00
Speaker 1: also wrong. Clothing doesn't play a part in being targeted.
48:03
Speaker 1: It's essential humiliating. It's essential to humiliate men as unable
48:08
Speaker 1: to help themselves, like animal animals. Another argument I dealt
48:11
Speaker 1: with is feminists who say the existence of shitting men
48:14
Speaker 1: meant women couldn't be shitty to men. Well, that's because
48:18
Speaker 1: feminists are like other leftists. They argue from this position
48:22
Speaker 1: of it's not individual people that do bad things, it's
48:25
Speaker 1: a systemic thing. So they basically believe in collective guilt
48:29
Speaker 1: for certain groups of people based on the progressive stack.
48:33
Speaker 1: So notice are a collective that deserve collective guilt and
48:36
Speaker 1: collective s.
48:37
Speaker 3: Have you noticed that whenever feminists you're talking about a
48:40
Speaker 3: man doing something bad or men doing something bad, all
48:43
Speaker 3: men are responsible for it, and all men are responsible
48:45
Speaker 3: for putting a stop to it, and everything about the
48:48
Speaker 3: situation is collective. But when a woman does something like this,
48:52
Speaker 3: it's you can't generalize it to all women. And she
48:56
Speaker 3: was acting on her own and what she did may
48:58
Speaker 3: have been reprehensible, but it's rare that women do anything
49:01
Speaker 3: like this, and blah blah blah blah blah, And you
49:03
Speaker 3: could even point out statistics proving all of that wrong,
49:07
Speaker 3: that this the there are collective attitudes that women have
49:11
Speaker 3: toward men that facilitate this type of behavior, that women
49:15
Speaker 3: collectively approve when this type of behavior happens, and they
49:19
Speaker 3: make light of it and they they excuse it and
49:22
Speaker 3: stuff like that, and that actually, this this type of violence,
49:25
Speaker 3: female violence against male victims is more common, and it's
49:29
Speaker 3: not always just a slap, like feminists like to wh
49:32
Speaker 3: when you talk about female violence against men, they like
49:35
Speaker 3: to say, well, you know, he shouldn't be responding to
49:38
Speaker 3: just a slap with a whole beatdown.
49:40
Speaker 2: This was not just a slap.
49:41
Speaker 3: If he had then given her a whole beatdown, would
49:44
Speaker 3: they have said, well, that was uncalled for, or would
49:47
Speaker 3: they have acknowledged that he was defending himself.
49:49
Speaker 2: And you know this is this is a situation.
49:52
Speaker 3: They have an excuse for everything, and they have a
49:55
Speaker 3: condemnation for everything that men do, everything that men don't do,
49:59
Speaker 3: every thing that men are, everything that men are not,
50:03
Speaker 3: and everywhere men and what they do and are and
50:06
Speaker 3: are not and don't do in every place. So I'm
50:10
Speaker 3: no sympathy for feminist rhetoric on this. You know that
50:13
Speaker 3: they really don't have anything of value to add to
50:15
Speaker 3: the conversation, and honestly, men should just ignore them, and
50:19
Speaker 3: that includes male legislators and deal with these subjects with
50:23
Speaker 3: feminists just screaming outside and being unrequited in their feelings
50:28
Speaker 3: about the situation because they really don't have anything worthwhile
50:33
Speaker 3: to say, and they don't have anything worthwhile to listen to.
50:36
Speaker 3: Nothing that they're going to say is going to contribute
50:39
Speaker 3: functionally to any changes in law and policy or any
50:43
Speaker 3: changes in culture.
50:44
Speaker 2: So fuck them.
50:46
Speaker 1: Yep Lar's fond queer in the responses to the story says,
50:52
Speaker 1: I'm a misinterest and I thought this was this way
50:54
Speaker 1: too until I read the case. It was gruesome and horrific.
50:57
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a win to synk to men's
50:59
Speaker 1: love of violence.
51:01
Speaker 2: So this men's level of violence, are you well?
51:03
Speaker 1: They opened, they opened, was saying, I'm a misandress, So
51:06
Speaker 1: like this is something you can wear like a badge
51:08
Speaker 1: of honor. I guess yeah. I hate men, and I
51:10
Speaker 1: even I think this is bad because this woman is
51:14
Speaker 1: sinking to men's level of violence.
51:17
Speaker 3: When Deborah Poni did her study on men's experience of
51:20
Speaker 3: course of control, she ran into men whose abusers had
51:25
Speaker 3: poured boiling water on them while they were sleeping, had
51:28
Speaker 3: beaten them with iron skillets, had stabbed them, had threatened
51:32
Speaker 3: to stab them, had poisoned them, had threatened to poison them,
51:36
Speaker 3: had threatened to poison their children.
51:37
Speaker 2: You got to be kidding me. Stooped to men's.
51:39
Speaker 3: Level of violence, Like women have never engaged in this
51:42
Speaker 3: type of stuff throughout history. That's again bullshit.
51:46
Speaker 1: Well yeah, so basically this is a little bit of
51:49
Speaker 1: a black pill in a way. I mean, like you
51:51
Speaker 1: got this kind of This is the funny thing like
51:54
Speaker 1: when these people, I think they watched too much TV,
51:57
Speaker 1: because if you watch TV, glorify women's violence because they
52:01
Speaker 1: always make it seem like it's righteous, necessary and inevitable,
52:06
Speaker 1: and so when it happens in real life, then people
52:09
Speaker 1: are like, oh, well that was that was the girl
52:11
Speaker 1: Boss moment, you know, and it's just attempted murder. I mean,
52:14
Speaker 1: I don't know what Australia is gonna land on. This
52:16
Speaker 1: is an Australian case. But in my view, she actively
52:20
Speaker 1: she didn't like. If she didn't like the situation, she
52:23
Speaker 1: didn't try to leave. He went and got gasoline, came back,
52:27
Speaker 1: poured it on him and set him on fire. That
52:30
Speaker 1: was not that was premeditated. That was intentional, and that
52:34
Speaker 1: almost killed this man and his life is never going
52:37
Speaker 1: to be the same.
52:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, to remember, Australia is the country where the guy's
52:42
Speaker 3: abusive girlfriend killed him, cut him up, cooked him, and
52:46
Speaker 3: attempted to defeat him to his children.
52:48
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, this is what I'm saying. But that's you know,
52:51
Speaker 1: that's that's stooping to men's level of violence. Apparently, I
52:54
Speaker 1: don't know, man, I don't know. So anyway, we're gonna
52:57
Speaker 1: wrap it up here, but do you have any final
52:59
Speaker 1: thoughts on this? We close it out.
53:02
Speaker 3: It's just typical feminist fair. They can't take responsibility for anything.
53:06
Speaker 3: They can't take responsibility for their rhetoric. They can't take
53:08
Speaker 3: responsibility for influencing women to feel comfortable engaging in violence
53:13
Speaker 3: instead of like, the best way to address violence between
53:16
Speaker 3: the sexes is to take that taboo that men face
53:18
Speaker 3: against being violent toward women and make it go both ways. Right,
53:22
Speaker 3: If women had the same taboo, there would be many
53:25
Speaker 3: fewer incidents of violence between the sexes because women have
53:30
Speaker 3: a habit of initiating it. And if both sexes had
53:33
Speaker 3: to be had to negotiate with each other and actually be,
53:39
Speaker 3: you know, willing to compromise and have compassion for each other,
53:42
Speaker 3: think of each other as human beings kind of like tradition,
53:45
Speaker 3: like history, like real tradition, then maybe there wouldn't be
53:49
Speaker 3: so much violence in the world.
53:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe we just, yeah, we just have to treat
53:54
Speaker 1: people like adults. Like essentially, what's happening is we're asking
53:58
Speaker 1: that women between like adults when they're adults. That's it. So, yeah,
54:02
Speaker 1: don't go off setting people on fire because they upset you.
54:05
Speaker 1: That's not just childish, that's barbaric and primitive. You're supposed
54:09
Speaker 1: to be like a woman in.
54:11
Speaker 3: The first world, according to feminists suggesting that we treat women,
54:14
Speaker 3: we should treat women like adults as probably the most
54:16
Speaker 3: misogynistic thing you could say. So if you know you
54:19
Speaker 3: smell gasoline or anything, watch out for angry women.
54:22
Speaker 1: I guess yeah, definitely.
54:24
Speaker 3: At least you're not in Australia like Australia and feminists
54:27
Speaker 3: or holy shit, Yeah, it's bad there.
54:30
Speaker 1: All right. Well, thanks Hannah for coming on the show,
54:32
Speaker 1: Thank you guys for watching. We're gonna wrap it up there.
54:34
Speaker 1: If you guys want to check out the thread on
54:38
Speaker 1: x I put it in the description of this video,
54:40
Speaker 1: maybe you can put a reply or whatever, contribute your
54:43
Speaker 1: two cents. It'd be nice to see more pushback on
54:46
Speaker 1: this because this is kind of ridiculous. So but anyway,
54:50
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Speaker 4: Until next time, men's right activists are machines, dude. Okay,
55:15
Speaker 4: they are literal machines. They are talking point machines. They
55:19
Speaker 4: are impossible to fucking deal with, especially if you have
55:22
Speaker 4: like especially if you have like a couple of dudes
55:24
Speaker 4: who have good memory. On top of that, too, holy shit,
55:27
Speaker 4: you're fucked