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Most Googled Disney World Questions Answered With Real Planning Advice · The Worst: Beyond the Magic

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  SPEAKER_02: Welcome back to The Worst Beyond the Magic, the podcast where we give you the best and worst Disney travel destinations and more.
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  SPEAKER_02: Today, Jamie and I are going to do something a little different.
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  SPEAKER_02: As self-proclaimed Disney Know It Alls, we're answering some of the most Googled questions about Disney World.
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  SPEAKER_00: So instead of people getting questionable advice from strangers on internet or Facebook, they're getting questionable advice from two strangers on a podcast.
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  SPEAKER_02: Much more professional, Pete.
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  SPEAKER_02: But we have microphones that establishes credibility.
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  SPEAKER_02: And you've been to Disney approximately how many times?
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_00: Whoa, whoa.
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  SPEAKER_02: I was gonna say a healthy amount of times.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, nobody believes that.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's that's fair.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_02: That's fair.
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  SPEAKER_02: So here's how this is gonna work.
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  SPEAKER_02: I pulled we've pulled together some of the questions people are constantly searching for about Disney World.
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  SPEAKER_02: We're gonna take turns answering them.
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  SPEAKER_02: First is the immediate answer, and then we'll try to give you a useful answer.
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  SPEAKER_00: So basically, first sarcasm and then the real answer.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's basically how we've built our entire show.
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  SPEAKER_02: Beyond the magic.
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  SPEAKER_02: Mouse droppings included.
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  SPEAKER_00: You ready, Pete?
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's ruin Google.
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  SPEAKER_02: All right, Jamie, you get the first one.
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  SPEAKER_02: When is the best time to go to Disney World?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was 1997.
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  SPEAKER_00: Fantastic.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, there were low crowds, cheap tickets.
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  SPEAKER_00: Mr.
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  SPEAKER_00: Toad was alive.
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  SPEAKER_02: My gosh, we're 30 seconds in and already useless.
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  SPEAKER_02: But I do love me some Mr.
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  SPEAKER_02: Toad.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but you you said immediate answer.
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  SPEAKER_02: All right, what's your actual answer?
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  SPEAKER_00: There I you know, there isn't one.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think people are gonna be disappointed when they hear that because they want to hear there's some magical day or there's some magical week where there's no crowds and it's 74 degrees, and the hotel rooms are$89 a piece, and Mickey personally carries your bags to your room.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that week does not exist.
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  SPEAKER_00: Not at all.
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  SPEAKER_02: For me, the best time is based on what you hate the most.
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  SPEAKER_02: If you hate heat, don't go in July.
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  SPEAKER_02: If you hate crowds, don't go during Christmas week.
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  SPEAKER_02: If you hate the rain, you shouldn't go in Florida.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, right.
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  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_02: But generally, I think you pick the season based on your priorities.
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  SPEAKER_02: The weather, the cooler months, festivals, you look at the Epcot's calendar, Halloween or Christmas.
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  SPEAKER_02: Obviously, you're building around those events, but stop looking for that mythical unicorn perfect week.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right, because the internet has already found it and everybody else has Googled it too.
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  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't exist.
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  SPEAKER_00: Damn that internet.
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  SPEAKER_00: All right, you ready for a year of speak?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, let's go.
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  SPEAKER_00: How much does a Walt Disney World vacation cost?
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  SPEAKER_00: That's a great question.
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  SPEAKER_00: How much do you have?
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  SPEAKER_00: What's your budget?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, correct.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, next question.
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  SPEAKER_00: Moving on.
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  SPEAKER_00: How much do you have is the right answer.
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  SPEAKER_02: No, but this is one of those questions where people say Disney is too expensive.
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  SPEAKER_02: And my first question is what Disney trip are we talking about?
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  SPEAKER_02: You can stay off property.
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  SPEAKER_02: You can stay at a value resort.
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  SPEAKER_02: You can stay at deluxe.
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  SPEAKER_02: You can rent DVC.
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  SPEAKER_02: I can help you with that.
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  SPEAKER_02: You can eat quick service, or you can have character breakfast eight at eight, snacks at 10, lunch at noon, and another snack because it's shaped like a Mickey, and then dinner at California Grill.
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  SPEAKER_02: So really it's a choose your own adventure.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, as Disney, as the worst travel agents for Travel Mation, Jamie and I can definitely help plan a vacation that is based on what you can afford or what you want to afford.
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  SPEAKER_02: I say can afford, but I always spend more than that anyway.
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  SPEAKER_00: Always.
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  SPEAKER_00: Always.
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  SPEAKER_00: You go, there's a there's a budget in mind that it's never stick to.
• 2:57
  SPEAKER_00: I know, I know we all want there to be you stick to a budget, but it it just doesn't ever happen.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's how Mickey gets you, and that's okay.
• 3:04
  SPEAKER_00: After all the things that you mentioned, somehow when you walk past the popcorn cart, you're still hungry.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Disney has weaponized smells.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think they pipe smells in on Main Street, don't they?
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  SPEAKER_02: They absolutely do.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, for sure.
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  SPEAKER_02: They do, they pipe them in the hotels, they pipe them in Main Street, they've got them in some of the rides, you know.
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_02: Let's go smell water on the Pirates of the Caribbean.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's you know you immediately know that's well, that's pirate water.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_02: All right, my serious answer is decide on the total number you're comfortable spending before you start planning, not after.
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  SPEAKER_02: So if you decide, hey, we got two grand, three grand, five hundred bucks, let it Jamie or I know.
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  SPEAKER_02: Or I mean, if you're planning this on your own, you obviously don't have to use us.
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  SPEAKER_02: If you plan it on your own, start with that number and not after.
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  SPEAKER_02: Because Disney is incredibly good at the phrase, it's only another, it's only another 40, it's only another hundred, it's only another 300 to upgrade the room.
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  SPEAKER_02: So it's a matter of sticking to your guns.
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  SPEAKER_00: So what Pete's mentioned is a lot of times Disney, especially right now during the summer of 2026, they run sales all the time.
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  SPEAKER_00: They have promos going on right now.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, for instance, for the rest of 2026, if you want to plan a Christmas vacation, kids eat free on the dining plan.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's unheard of.
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  SPEAKER_00: That has never happened before.
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  SPEAKER_00: Currently, they're running 30% off rooms for the summertime for what's left of the summer.
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  SPEAKER_00: So there are different promos, and it's Pete and I's job to figure out what is the best promo to apply to your vacation so that you get the best vacation for the money that you want to spend.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you add up all the costs, what Pete is mentioning, it's just another 40 bucks, it's just another 100 bucks.
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  SPEAKER_00: Suddenly you've probably spent the whatever the cost is of a used Honda Zimbabwe.
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  SPEAKER_02: And that's just because you want to see a giraffe from your balcony.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Worth it.
• 4:39
  SPEAKER_02: Totally worth it.
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  SPEAKER_02: All right.
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  SPEAKER_02: How many days?
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  SPEAKER_02: You ready for this one, Jamie?
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm ready, man.
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  SPEAKER_02: How many days do you need at Disney World?
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  SPEAKER_02: Four parks, four days.
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  SPEAKER_02: Let's go.
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  SPEAKER_02: Bring it down.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're moving on.
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  SPEAKER_00: Here we go.
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  SPEAKER_00: Man.
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  SPEAKER_00: All right, okay, okay, Disney expert.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_00: Tell me, tell me how many days I should spend at Walt Disney World.
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_00: I think five to seven is the sweet spot for most first-time families.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think I I agree with that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Even even though I'm not a first-time family and you're not either.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think five to seven, seven days is is is peak, peak Disney vacation.
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  SPEAKER_00: You agree?
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I think four parks in four days is just terrible.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it sounds great when you're sitting home.
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  SPEAKER_02: Hey, we'll do this, we get all these things done.
• 5:18
  SPEAKER_02: And then day one, you're at Disney, day two, rope drop, day three, everybody put on your deodorant between the chafings.
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  SPEAKER_02: And by day four, you've got a child asleep on a restaurant floor and you're staring off with the hundred-yard stare because you've been through some stuff.
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  SPEAKER_00: But you've seen some stuff, man.
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  SPEAKER_00: You've seen some.
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  SPEAKER_00: You see the look on the dad's face.
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  SPEAKER_00: You're like, yeah, brother, I understand.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've been there.
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  SPEAKER_00: We can do better.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you need a break.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you need rest days.
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  SPEAKER_02: You need that pool day.
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  SPEAKER_02: You need some Disney Springs.
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  SPEAKER_02: You need a resort time.
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  SPEAKER_02: Something.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, we've we have a whole day off, and then we'll plan like a something in the evening, Fantasia, Hoop Dup Review, something, something nice where you were just chill for most of the day, and then we've got like a family event at night.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think, honestly, I think that's a great point.
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  SPEAKER_00: I most people forget that they've paid for their resort.
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  SPEAKER_00: So stay at the resort.
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  SPEAKER_00: Plan in a resort day.
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  SPEAKER_00: Don't go, you know, sun up to sun down, park to park to park.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, yes, you can do that.
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  SPEAKER_00: But if Peter and I are planning our vacation, we're gonna recommend that you split up your days and that you have enjoy a nice resort day.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: I try to avoid the forced march of happiness.
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  SPEAKER_00: Definitely.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I've been there.
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  SPEAKER_02: All those places, all those hotels, whether they're value or deluxe, there are there's all there's always something nice to it.
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  SPEAKER_02: There's always something nice to enjoy at the hotel.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I just stayed at the Riviera, and one of my biggest takeaways was that there are people spending deluxe money resort only to see the lobby twice.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like they're just not there, you know.
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  SPEAKER_02: So if that's part of your trip, like, hey, we don't want to be at the room, we want to be at the parks or we want to be at the water park or wherever, then you know, spend less on the less at the hotel.
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  SPEAKER_02: But if you want those rest days, you want to explore, you want to spend some time really using the accommodations, then you know, maybe spend a little bit more on the resort.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'll just add to what you said a second ago.
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  SPEAKER_00: People see the resort twice when they check in, and then when Disney kicks them out, however many days later, when they check out, and then then it's just gone by in a blur.
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_00: They didn't have any time to enjoy their vacation.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you see, you see the grumpy folks walking out with their bill in their hand.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_02: All right, question four.
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  SPEAKER_02: Got it.
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  SPEAKER_02: All right.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna give this one to you.
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  SPEAKER_02: What is the best age to take a child to Disney World?
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean 37.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's a great answer.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, listen, you have disposable income, uh, there's bladder control, right?
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_00: You know, as many potty breaks, and you had can reach you can go on every single ride because you meet the height requirement.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you can make your own lightning lane selections.
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_02: You can buy Peter Eye a beer.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, I love that.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's a perfect Disney age.
• 7:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I I agree.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_02: But seriously, I hate it when people say don't take them when they're little because they won't remember it.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, I I agree.
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_00: And the rule currently is under two years old is is free.
• 8:05
  SPEAKER_00: And you some people are like, why would you take your two-year-old to Walt Disney World when they're like you said, they're not gonna remember it, but you know what?
• 8:12
  SPEAKER_00: You're gonna remember it.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, Mia's been going since she was four, and yes, there are things that she doesn't remember, but I remember them.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, definitely.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's there's a different kind of Disney magic when they're little, for sure.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, those memories exist, and not every not every experience for Disney is gotta be a core memory for a child.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_02: A lot of them have value for you and your family too.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, exactly.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_02: I think a four-year-old see Mickey Mouse, an 18-year-old sees a college kid in a very hot costume.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now, I my my son who's 13 is starting to ask, Is that really a Mickey Mouse or is it someone dressed up as Mickey Mouse and buddy, just just enjoy the vacation and enjoy the popcorn I got you or the Mickey pretzel, right?
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_00: Uh don't ruin it for your little don't ruin it for your little sisters.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_00: Magic beyond the magic.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that is way beyond.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we're not there yet.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_00: There's more magic in my five-year-old's eyes than there are in my 13-year-old's eyes at this point, but I still we still enjoy going.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_02: My my actual answer is if your family can comfortably afford the trip and you're emotionally prepared to move at a child's pace, then take them.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_02: Just understand a toddler's perfect Disney day may look very different from yours.
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, use those strollers, they're they're perfect age to cart them around, so you don't have to wait for them when they're little.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_02: And then sometimes, you know, the the we're back to the hotel.
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_02: When Mia started going, we were at Shades of Green, and she really I take her to the park, and all she kept talking about was going back to Shades of Green to play in the playground there.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_00: I mean they they love the resort pool more than they're gonna love Rise of the Resistance.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's okay, even though it hurts.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_00: I do, I do love Rise of the Resistance.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_00: Jamie.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_00: All right, yes.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_00: I got a question for you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Is Lightning Lane worth it?
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_00: I I hate this question, Pete.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_00: Why?
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_00: Because the answer is yes.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_00: Of course the answer is yes.
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_00: That that's why.
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_00: You and I are gonna spend that money, and Mickey wants you to spend that money, but it makes your day so much better.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's fair.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_00: Do you remember when FastPasses were included?
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_00: Remember that?
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_02: You just you just uh went up to the kiosk, got yourself your fast pass for the next thing.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_02: It was it was fantastic back in my day.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so back in back in my day, the fast passes were they were they were paper.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_00: We had to stand in line for paper ones, and we walked uphill both ways to Space Mountain.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_00: Both ways.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_00: Those are the best of times, my friend.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_00: Those days are long gone.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_00: The kids, yeah.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_00: No, they don't know.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_00: We used to be free is now a paid service, unfortunately.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_00: But that's where we are.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_00: And if you want to maximize that, P or I, we're we're your boy.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna help you out.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, if you've been listening for a while, we'll talk about different strategies.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, if you if you need that, we can certainly help you out with that.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_02: But my answer on the lightning lane is worth it.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_02: Uh it has a higher value to you than the additional cost.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_02: If you have one Magic Kingdom day in a big list of attractions, then absolutely.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_02: If you're doing seven days and you're happy wandering around Epcot drinking and looking at topiaries, that's the Flower and Garden Festival, if you didn't know.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_02: And then probably not.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_02: You probably don't need it.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_00: And we're gonna teach you how to do this before your trip begins.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_00: And pre P if you want us to, Peter and I are gonna take care of that for you and book those rides seven days out.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna have a conversation with the client right now where we have a shared note on our iPhones.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_00: And so we go back and forth in the shared note what the rides are gonna be and when we're gonna book them and how in what order you want them in.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_00: You don't have to go that much into detail if you want to, but if you want to, we're here for it.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_02: The last thing you want to do is stand in the middle of Main Street at 10:30 in the morning, and you're just now downloading my Disney experience for the first time, and then you get angry at Disney or us for not letting you know.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_02: Get angry at Disney for legitimate reasons, right?
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, we have an entire podcast to help you with that.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_00: Here's my question for you, Pete.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_00: Is the Disney dining plan worth it?
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, I just used it.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_02: I did, and my answer is Yeah, but here we go, here we go.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_02: 30 minutes of podcasting, and this is what people get is a maybe.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, boo.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_02: But that's the answer.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, if you're trying to mathematically beat Disney at the dining plan, you need to understand what you're ordering, right?
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_02: So if you're the person ordering steak cocktails and maximizing every credit, much like myself.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I feel I feel attacked.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_00: I feel attacked.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like you're coming after me right now.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, absolutely.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_02: Then you can get a good value.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_02: But what I like about it is on the graduation trip was not constantly thinking about the cost of every meal.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_02: We had six people.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_02: There's something psychologically freeing about knowing a big chunk of food is already accounted for.
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_02: Like you already paid for it.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_02: The girls can go off and run off and grit their own food if they need to.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_02: They don't need to be with us.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but listen, if your kids are the kids that have maybe one and a half chicken nuggets and half a grape, the the mask can get ugly pretty quickly.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_00: It may not be for you.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, that's an that's an expensive grape.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_02: So my my advice is is don't ask, is the dining plan worth it?
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_02: Is I would ask, uh, is it worth it for how my family actually eats?
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's that's great advice.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's great advice.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_00: So we have a whole episode, Pete, on this.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_00: If you go back to Disney dining and take a listen to it, and if you go back to their your drip report from Riviera, you talk about the quick service dining.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_00: I know we talked about in our that very dining episode, we talked about the Disney dining plan, and that's my preferred way to do it.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_00: But like Pete said, if we're gonna do that, you gotta you've already paid for the minimum.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_00: You've paid for that price up front.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_00: Order the most expensive thing off the menu.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_00: It does not cost you any more.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_00: You have paid for the minimum already up front.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_00: Get that expensive drink, get that expensive old-fashioned, get that, get that filet mignon or the this whatever the surfing turf, whatever the most expensive thing on the menu it is, help yourself.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_00: You have already paid for the minimum.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_00: Please do it.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_00: That's how you beat the dining plan.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_02: All right, so our next question is the park hopper worth it?
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_02: What do you think, Jeremy?
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_00: For Pete or for a normal human?
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_00: For let's say I'll say a normal human.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, alright.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_00: I'd say I'd say maybe.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_00: I think I think the first time families overestimate how easy park hopping feels.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_00: If you look on a map, Apcot looks super close to Magic Kingdom.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_00: If you look on a map, Animal Kingdom looks super close to Animal Kingdom Lodge.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_00: Guess what?
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_00: It's not.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_00: We'll just we'll just pop over to Magic Kingdom, or we'll just pop over to Epcot.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_00: There's no there's no popping at Disney.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_00: No, there's not.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_00: There's a now at Disneyland, yes, you can do that.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_00: But at Disney World, where we're talking about, no, sir.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_00: You have to you have to think about all the transportation, how we're gonna get there, how much time it's gonna take, and where we are in relation to where that transportation is from where we are in the park right now.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_00: There's walking, there's waiting, there's transportation.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_00: Like I said, there's walking through security again.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_00: There's there's more walking.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_00: There's a a child asking you if they can eat something, another child saying that they want a plushie.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_00: Dad realizing he left the the portable charger back at the bar in Epcot.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I mean, these are customers now.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, it could get heated.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_00: It could get heated.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_00: We tried to get there because you and I are planners, right?
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_00: Let's not talk about our divorce.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_00: That's never gonna happen.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_00: Because we love each other.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_02: What about you?
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I love the park hopper because I know Disney transportation and I like the flexibility, but for a first trip, one park is a day is completely reasonable strategy.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and my my kids aren't I mean, my kids are 13, 11, and 5, and we still do one park a day.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not I don't if we're doing park hopping, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going with you in January.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_00: That's we can move freely as much as we like.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_00: We don't have younger kids that are are tired to rehab.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_00: But like I said, right now we still do one park a day, and it's still plenty.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_00: You still get a lot done, you're still tired at the end of the day, you feel it's accomplished.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_00: One park a day is just fine.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_00: Don't feel overwhelmed to try and fix and do everything right away.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_02: I would, I mean, I think once on your first trip, one park for sure.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_02: Um, with kids, it's always a good idea.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_02: One of the things that we've often done once we figured things out, we'll go to one park in the morning, especially if we're there for a week.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_02: We'll go to one park in the morning, maybe head back to the hotel, a little time there, a little bit of a pool, and then maybe go to a different park at night, especially if it's something that's on the skyliner or the monorail.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_02: Skyliner.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_00: All right, you ready?
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, I'm ready.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you're gonna like this one.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_00: Which Walt Disney World Park should you skip?
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_00: Man.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna let you answer.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_00: Easy answer.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_00: Animal Kingdom.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_00: You son of I hey, listen, you asked.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_00: You asked.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_00: No, we got listeners leaving now.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_00: It's hot.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_00: There's yeah, no thanks.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_00: They're not leaving.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_00: They're not leaving.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_00: Let me tell you why.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_00: Let me tell you why they're not leaving.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not saying Animal Kingdom is bad by any means whatsoever.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_00: I think I think it's a in right now in its current state, because half the park is gone, I think it's a half day park.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_00: If you only have to do three parks, I think Animal Kingdom is the easiest one to skip for some families.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I hate your answer, but I understand your answer.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think the right answer depends on your group.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_02: Little kids, Hollywood Studios might not hit the same way.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_02: You know, Thrill Ride, people Epcot in Hollywood Studios might be a little bit stronger.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_02: Animal Kingders, animal lovers and people who appreciate theming, then Animal Kingdom is unbelievable.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_00: It's a beautiful park, especially Avatar at nighttime.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_00: If you can catch it at nighttime after the sun goes down, it is absolutely beautiful.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_00: And if your goal is drinking and you're not at Epcot, guess what?
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_00: Animal Kingdom is your second go-to.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_02: You answered that alarmingly fast.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_00: I've I've done plenty of research, Pete.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_02: I've peer-reviewed that with you, I think.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_00: Multiple studies, sir.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_00: Multiple studies.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_00: And we could do more.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_00: Needs more studying.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_02: So here's a big one that is another big Disney Google question is can you bring food and water into Disney World?
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_02: Next question.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_02: No, people really don't know this.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you can bring outside food and non-alcoholic drinks into the park, subject to Disney's current rules.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_00: And you should definitely bring your water bottle.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_00: Bring you water.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_00: We talked about hydration last episode.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_00: You should definitely bring it.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you don't need to prove your toughness against Florida in July because Florida will win.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_00: No, yeah.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_00: Florida Florida, I mean Florida killed the dinosaurs.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_00: That might not be true.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, they're gone to Animal Kingdom, so they obviously killed the dinosaurs.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_02: Well, if you listened last time to our survival guide, or if you need a survival guide, go back and listen to the last one.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_02: But we talk about hydration, electrolyte, sunscreen, and eat something besides a Mickey pretzel and a margarita.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_02: You should still eat that.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_02: It's something else, too.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_00: See, I feel you're picking on me again.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think it's targeted at both of us.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_00: Question 10.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_00: We're out we're on our way down here.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_00: What shoes should people wear at the Walt Disney World?
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I remember we talked a little bit about this one last week, so you might have an idea.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_00: I I do, and it's the shoes that you already own.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_00: Don't go buy brand new shoes or brand new sandals because you saw some TikTok influencer influencing on TikTok or Instagram.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_00: These are the cutest shoes for Walt Disney World.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_00: Pick something that you already have, that's already worn in, and they're gonna be your best walking shoes.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_00: But for the guys out there listening, hey dudes are not the greatest.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_00: They're not the greatest for this.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_00: They are comfortable, but not for walking 30,000 steps a day.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_00: It's not great.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_00: Get yourself some nice Brooks or I know a Pete's favorite, your white new balances.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's the that's the dad cash right there.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_00: That's what you gotta wear.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_00: Dad's got a dad.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_02: This is one of my biggest pieces of advice to people, too, is like Disney's not the place where you want to break in footwear.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_02: You may wal legitimately walk 10, 12, 15 miles and your feet swell, it rains, it's hot.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and by by 8 p.m.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_00: people walk around like you're in they're in the civil war.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like they walk there with crutches and they're they're like missing the leg.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_00: It's it gets bad.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_00: It gets bad quick, especially in the summertime.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you can identify day four Disney people by their their gait or their limp.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's definitely by their gate.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_00: They're trying to let their not let their thighs touch as they walk.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_00: It's bad.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_00: We've seen it, we've seen that before.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_00: We again, body glide folks.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_00: Body glide.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_00: That's the answer.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_02: Wear comfortable shoes.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_02: You've already walked in.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_02: Consider rotating your shoes.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_02: Good socks, like we said last time, and take care of hot spots before they become blisters.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_02: And for the love of Mickey, get that body guide or that deodorant.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_02: We're not talking about feet anymore, are we, Pete?
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, we're not.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_00: Questionable areas where that stuff goes, but listen, it's gonna make all the difference in your trip.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_00: All right, are you ready?
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_00: Can you do Magic Kingdom in one day?
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, yeah, yes, you can.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, but yeah, I mean, you and realistically, you could also eat a Thanksgiving dinner in 12 minutes if you wanted to.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, the question is, how how do you want to experience this?
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_00: That's really that's the that's the answer, right?
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_00: If you want to go sunup, sundown, and and the force march of happiness, then you have an opportunity to do that.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_00: But we're here to tell you that's that's not the right option for you.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_00: And you're gonna be exhausted by day one, and it's not gonna be fun anymore.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_00: What do you think, Pete?
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, I think like everything else we're talking about, I think you need to define what's important to you and what you what is absolutely the most important, and then go from there, and then you've at least gotten the things that are most like, hey, we're going to Disney, and we definitely want Space Mountain, and we definitely want Tiana's because the kids are a fan of that, and then we definitely want Big Thunder Mountain because it's because it's re-re-revamped and renewed.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_02: Then that's you know, plan from there.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, can you ride every attraction, meet every character, watch the parade, eat three meals, and get a perfect firework spot?
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_02: Probably not.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_00: Can you have an amazing day at Magic Kingdom?
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, absolutely.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_02: Just pick your priorities.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_02: I always tell people to identify, like I just said, and then not like overwhelm it with 20 must-d's, but maybe three or four.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_00: Because if they're 20 must-dos, then they're really not your must-do list, are they?
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, exactly.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_02: Give me five.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_02: If we accomplish those five, the day was successful.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_02: Everything else is a bonus route.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_00: Question number 12.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_00: Question number 12.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_00: Is all right.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_00: Are you gonna you want to ask me or am I gonna ask you?
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna ask you.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_00: Is it worth staying on Disney property?
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_00: I know the answer to this.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_00: Pizza travel agent.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_00: No pressure.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_02: No pressure.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_02: My answer is yes.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_02: Shocking.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it is.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_02: But I know it's it I it's not for everybody.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_02: I love the Disney bubble.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_02: I know you love the Disney bubble.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_02: I like the transportation, the skyliner, the monorail, the buses are even great.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's bottom of my list.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_02: Minivan takes over the for the buses.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_02: I like the immersion.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_02: I like not getting in a car and driving.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_02: I like waking up and still feeling like I'm on a Disney vacation, not like I've left to go stay somewhere else.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: But Disney Hotel rooms cost a little.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_00: They cost a little change, don't they?
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, absolutely.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_02: And I always think of Once Upon a Time with Rumpel Stillskin.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_02: All magic comes at a price, dearie.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_00: Can I hear your Rumpelstilskin impression one more time, please?
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_02: No, it's only one time.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_02: I haven't sang yet or discussed the other thing.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna I'm gonna see if it fits in someplace.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_02: Hang in there.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_00: I got goldfish that are anxious to hear about it.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_00: They're definitely swimming faster now.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_02: But you're like you said, Disney rooms can be expensive, and this is where I think people need to stop comparing hotels based on the room.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_02: If you compare a Disney Deluxe room to another luxury hotel room at the same price, Disney was gonna lose that comparison.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_00: 100% there.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, those are those are strong rules from the Riviera, man.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_00: I said what I said.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you're paying for location, transportation, access, atmosphere, and convenience.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_02: The question is whether you use those things.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_02: If you have a rental car and you're eating off property and you're barely at the resort, stay somewhere else and save the money if that's what your budget wants.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_00: Hold on, time out.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_00: So travel agent Pete just told you not to stay at Disney.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_00: This is why Travel Mason keeps me around.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_00: You're the worst.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_00: You're the worst.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_00: We really are.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um adults go to Walt Disney World without kids?
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_00: Correct.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_01: But at the gate they issue you a child.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_00: Man.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_00: Here, sir, this one's yours.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_01: Uh oh, I'm so glad you found her.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_01: You just gotta keep him hiding.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's a temporary Disney child.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_00: Here you go.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_00: Welcome to Disney.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_00: Here's your kid.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_00: Re return them by parkles.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there's probably a fee.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_00: No, no doubt there's a fee.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_00: No doubt.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_00: If they're less if they're less whiny, there's more of a fee.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_00: Alright, what's your what's your actual answer?
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, of course adults can go without kids.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, we've got you knew we were gonna say that.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_02: The whole adult Disney world adult Disney is a huge thing.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_02: And uh it and I think adult Disney trips can actually be better in some ways.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_02: And I know Jamie and I have talked about this a lot.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I love my family, he loves his family, I love his family, but I also love the opportunity to just bro around and like bar hop or check out some drinks or act like foolish kids.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_02: We're not in charge of other human beings, we're just there to stumble around and be dumb.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_02: And it is in a lot of ways really fantastic.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_00: You you are you're painting this as two very responsible adults, you know that I I mean I I could I couldn't I couldn't agree more.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_00: You could you have the opportunity to slow down and you don't have to push a stroller.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_00: There's nothing wrong with being a Disney adult.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, I'm not at the level where where Pete is where he's dressing up as what'd you what did you go as again last time?
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_00: The street sweeper from Mary Poppins.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_00: Bert.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_00: You went as you went as Bert.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_00: He's not a street sweeper, he's a chimney sweep.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_00: I was gonna say you I I was gonna say you dress up as Mary Poppins.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, who would pay to say that?
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_00: Somebody, yeah, somebody would definitely pay some dollars to see that.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_00: So I think I think you have the opportunity if you don't go without kids, you can eat where you want to go, you can eat to your palate, right?
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_00: It's not just chicken fingers and fries.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_00: You can spend two hours at at Steakhouse 71 Lounge, because we've done that.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_00: I think it was more than two hours, man.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_00: I think it was it was it was definitely more than two hours.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_00: You could walk around though, showcase like Pete's saying, or stumble around it.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_00: You can go back to the resort.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_00: You can you can avoid Dumbo.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_00: You don't have to go on Dumbo unless you want to go on Dumbo.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_00: Pete wants to ride Dumbo.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_00: No, Pete wants to ride Dumbo.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_02: If I paid for the ticket, then I'm flying the elephant.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_02: Brianna and I have had some some nice Disney trips as adults, too.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, Disney's designed for families.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_02: That doesn't mean it's exclusively for children.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_02: But uh but Disney adults.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_00: Careful.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just saying there's a line.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_00: There's a line.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_01: There is a line.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_00: Some people listening right now, you know, might with a Figment tattoo, they might be a little nervous.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we love you.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_00: Mostly.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_00: We love you.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_00: Not Figment.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_00: We don't love Figment.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_00: But we love you and your tattoo.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_00: We gotta talk about Figment.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_00: But I I mean, you know, I'm glad you have the Tig Figment tattoo.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_00: Here's our next question.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_00: What happens if it rains at Walt Disney World?
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_00: Man, we we have talked about all the we are good podcasts.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_00: We have talked about all these things already.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_00: People should listen back to the catalog.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_00: But if you don't know what happens in Florida, Florida gets wet, is what happens, Jamie.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_00: You you may get wet.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you, Pete, the meteorologist.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_02: Don't panic about the rain.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_02: You should not do that.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, some of my best days have been rainy days.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_02: I've I've seen Mia dance more in puddles at Disney World than I've seen her dance anywhere else in the world.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_00: People leave when it rains.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_00: They they panic and they scatter for cover and then they quickly leave the park.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's gonna rain the rest of the day.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_00: It's not.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_00: It's not gonna rain the rest of the day.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, exactly.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, lightning's different.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_02: Outdoor attractions close.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, test tracks gonna close if you know somebody spills their water.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_02: But normal Florida rain, ponchos, quick dry clothes, shoes that don't say stokes, and keep moving.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_02: It's all stuff we've been talking about.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_00: All stuff we've been talking about back in the catalog.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_00: So go back and listen to the episodes, folks.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna help you out, I promise.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_00: Also, don't spend$8,000 on a Disney vacation and then let a 20-minute rainstorm ruin your day.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_00: You're there, you've made it there.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_00: Stick it out.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_00: It's gonna go away, and the day's gonna get bright and sunny and better, I promise.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_02: I've seen this emotional event.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_02: Dad is standing under an awning, poncho stuck to his face, stroller soaked, and he's screaming, Are we having fun?
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_00: That is the magic for sure.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_00: That is the magic.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_00: You should do what?
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_00: You should enjoy yourself.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_00: You should look at the castle.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_00: Pete and I planned this for 11 months ago for you.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_00: You're gonna enjoy it.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_02: The flyovers will continue till morale increases.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_02: That's right.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_02: That's right.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_02: All right, I got a question for you.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_02: I always love this question.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_02: Question number 15.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_02: Hey, can we just wing a Disney World vacation?
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_00: No, you can?
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_00: You can't you can't just wing it.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_00: Please just don't show up.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_00: Please don't do that.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_00: You can though.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_00: Should you though?
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely not.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_00: That's the right answer.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_00: There it is.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's the right answer.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_02: I think Disney has become too complicated complicated.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's the criticism.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_02: And you shouldn't need a training seminar to ride Peter Pan, but that's not the current reality.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_02: You shouldn't need an hour by hour spreadsheet.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_00: For the record, Pete also has an hour by hour spreadsheet at home.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_02: But that's what they're paying us for.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_02: That's what the uh you know, that's why we're travel nation's almost worst.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_02: Travel agents.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_00: No, we're definitely worst.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_00: I've seen your spreadsheet that has colors.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, mine's fantastic.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_02: It's professional.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_00: It's very professional.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_00: It's very professional.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_00: I think uh I think you should know the basics before you arrive.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_00: So understand what ticket you have.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_00: So right now, Disney has a bunch of different tickets out.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_00: Of course, they have the hopper pass or the hopper tickets you can add to your everyday ticket.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_00: They have an afternoon ticket which opens up at 2 p.m.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_00: It costs a little bit less than your regular full-day ticket, but if you're there, if you catch a flight early in the morning and you arrive to Disney in the early afternoon, and you just want to do from the late afternoon on and out without paying a full price full day ticket.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_00: That afternoon ticket is key.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_00: It's money.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's a it's a great thing.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_00: It's a great ticket out there to use, especially if you're catching that you want to go to the park the same day you're flying into Orlando.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_00: I think that that's uh that was a great great poll by Disney.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_00: I think I'm glad that they offered that ticket now.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_00: Also, understand the lining lanes if you're using them.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_00: Again, Peter and I are gonna beat this into it.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe that's not the right word, beat this into it.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_00: That's not probably not what people want to hear.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna coach you.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_00: That's the better word.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna coach you on uh, yeah, that's better, not beat into beans will continue until you have fun.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna coach you on how to use your lightning lanes.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_00: So we're at seven days out if you're on property, because we want you to stay on property.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_00: According to Pete, you don't want to stay on property, but according to me, the bougier of the two, you're gonna stay on property, and at seven days out, we're gonna book those lanes for you.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_00: But up until then, we're gonna have a long conversation on what three rides we're gonna book seven days out, and then after that, I'm gonna teach you how to get back into the app and how to pull on our lightning lanes so that you always have three lightning lanes in your queue, so you never go without one.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_00: You're good to go.
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_00: That is some Disney, Disney homework.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_02: That is, and if you're if you're not gonna use us, make sure you download the app before you're standing at the entrance.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_02: A little homework can save a lot of vacation.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_00: Definitely.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_00: I have a friend of mine who's there right now.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_00: He's letting his wife control the vacation.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, didn't download the app until he got there.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_00: They bought tickets the day of.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, they still guess what happened to them?
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_00: The guy in the Magic Kingdom had stood in line for hours.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_00: Hours.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_00: I offered my assistance ahead of time, but I mean, the guy's wife wanted to just just do it.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not, I'm who am I to stand in your way?
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_00: I'm here to offer advice.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_00: If you think you got it, you got it.
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna tell you otherwise.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_00: It's okay.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_00: Go go and go and find out.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_00: Go and find out for yourself.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_02: I saved this one for last.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_02: This is wanted to make sure we got the most ridiculous Google question I could find.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_02: So this was a lot of it.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_02: I know we were doing our research and finding the most the most Google Disney questions.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_02: And then I was like, all right, well, what's the craziest Disney question?
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_02: And so here's what the next one for you, Jamie.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_02: What time is the three o'clock parade?
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_02: I say this just for you.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_00: This is a real question, cast members apparently have answered enough to become a Disney legend.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_00: What time, excuse me, what time is the three o'clock parade?
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_00: Because you're looking in the app, you're looking on the pamphlet, uh, you see a parade at three o'clock, and people ask these questions.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_00: I've heard someone ask these questions.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_00: So, what time is the three o'clock parade?
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_00: Come on.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_00: I want to be respectful to our listeners.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_00: Of course, of course.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_00: The answer is three.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_00: It's three o'clock in the afternoon.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_00: Is that your final answer?
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm I'm locking that one in.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_00: You don't want to phone a friend.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, no, you're my friend.
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_02: And technically, the qu I'm listening.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_02: The question isn't always as stupid as it sounds.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_02: Disney, of course, has to make this complicated, don't they?
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because a parade may start at three at one point in the route.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_02: If you're further down the route, you might not reach it until later.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_02: So if you're by Tiana's, that parade's gonna start for you right at three o'clock or fifteen hundred.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_02: But if you're all the way over on the other side uh towards the entrance, then that three o'clock parade might not hit you until about three twelve, three fifteen.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_00: Disney's done it, haven't they?
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yep, they've broken time.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_00: They have broken, they have broken time for sure.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_00: Disney time is different than regular time, just like Disney Money and Disney Maths is different than regular math.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_00: It's very different from each other.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, three o'clock is the window.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, definitely.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_00: So here's the answer.
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_00: Check your My Disney Experience app.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_00: If you're really uh if you really want advice on where to stand, number one, listen to us because we're getting the best advice.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_00: But also go ask a friendly cast member.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_00: Just be nice to them.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, I understand that the the parade's gonna be here in a few minutes.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_00: Where's the best place for me to see that?
• 32:35
  SPEAKER_00: Is it up in in the adventureland or is it back here by the queue or back here by the hub?
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, right now, if you want the best seat in the house, and this is controversial, you can book in your in your lightning lane, you can book a spot right on the hub to watch the parade from.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_00: That's actual lightning lane that you can you can get.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_02: So the answer is we'll give you a call and help you out, but it's you know, it's somewhere between three and four fifteen.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_02: A parade may occur between three and four fifteen in the afternoon.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, Jamie.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_02: Rapid fire, five seconds, no explanation.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_02: Let's go.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_02: Best Disney park.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, your turn.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_01: Animal Kingdom.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_01: That's wrong.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_01: That's wrong.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_01: Best Disney snack.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_00: It's dollip, duh.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_00: Overrated.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_00: No, come on.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_00: We just lost our sponsors, Pete.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_00: The ones we don't have.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_00: Well, the ones we're gonna get.
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_00: Come on.
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_00: Best Disney resort.
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_00: Polynesian.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, I agree.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_00: Best Disney transportation.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_00: Skyliner.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_00: You shouldn't say it the right way.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_00: Say it the right way.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_00: Skyliner.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_00: What's the what's the worst Disney transportation?
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, it's a bus at 11:30 night when the park closes.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_00: You have exhausted people that all smell like they've been at Disney all day long, and they have sleeping children to throw in over their shoulder.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_00: That's not transportation.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_00: That's a hostage situation.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_00: Alright.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_00: Most overrated Disney attraction.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_00: Controversial.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_00: Controversial.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_00: You're gonna hate me.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_00: It's Peter Pan.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't want to support you, but I support you.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_00: Most underrated.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_00: Living with the land.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_00: It's a cult, Pete.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_00: It's you're in a cult.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_01: It's a beautiful cult.
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_01: Let's go talk to the lettuce.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_01: We need lettuce more than we need anything else in our life right now from Disney.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_01: That's what we need.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_01: Alright.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_01: Best Disney bathroom.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_00: Come on, I've entered the chat.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_00: Let's go.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_00: We're not doing this.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_00: Pete, the people want to know that you're Googling the best Disney bathroom.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_00: They can use Google Maps.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_00: Alright, so the best Disney bathroom, I think, is gonna be Rapunzel's bathroom.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_00: And it's right over there, just on the other side of Adventureland, on the other opposite side of Pirates of the Caribbean.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_00: Am I right by saying that?
• 34:35
  SPEAKER_00: I think I think that Disney did Rapunzel dirty.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_00: She's a freaking princess.
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_00: And you gave her a bathroom.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_00: You gave her a bathroom.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we could we she deserves better.
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's not the other side of the of the pirates, it's the other side of Small World and Pan.
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_00: There you go.
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_00: There you go.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_00: That's a that's right.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, as you yeah, that's exactly right.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_00: Either way, they seemed to repuzzle dirty by giving her a bathroom.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_00: Come on.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_00: They did.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's a glorious tower, and I'm like, oh, that's wonderful.
• 35:03
  SPEAKER_02: What ride is there?
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_02: And they're like, no, it's a bathroom.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_02: Well, it's a ride, all right.
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_02: It depends on what I've had.
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_02: So what have we learned today?
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, Google has all the answers, obviously.
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_00: And we have opinions.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_00: Not necessarily the answers.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_02: And the three o'clock parade exists outside our traditional understanding of time.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_02: And don't forget bodyglide.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, use your body glide, your deodorant.
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_02: But seriously, Disney's complicated.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that's why people Google these questions.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_02: People are spending a lot of money.
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_02: They're using vacation time.
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_02: They're bringing their family and they don't want to screw it up.
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_00: And remember, we're here to help.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's that's our job.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_00: We we enjoy doing this.
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_00: Call us crazy, but we we enjoy doing this.
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_00: Uh you you don't need to try and plan the perfect trip because inevitably something is gonna happen.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_00: You gotta roll the punches.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_00: You gotta learn to roll the punches.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you need a trip that works for your family, your budget, your pace, your priorities, and maybe the best Disney advice we can give is to stop trying to do the trip the internet says you're supposed to do.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_00: But you want to do what you want to do is listen to this podcast.
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_00: Do what we tell you to.
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_00: That's you know the meme that's going around right now uh with Star Lord on it.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_00: All right, your plan sucks.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_00: Let's use my plan.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_00: My plan's the best plan.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_00: That's us.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_00: That's Pete and I.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think they're contractually obligated now.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_00: If they've listened this far into this podcast, whatever episode we're on, or how long we've been doing this, you you've you obviously agree with us.
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they gotta check the terms and conditions.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_00: Small print.
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_02: Thanks for joining us for another episode of The Worst Beyond the Magic.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_02: If you have Disney questions you've been afraid to Google or one that you Googled and immediately regret it, send it to us and we'll do a part two.
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_02: You can reach us at beyondthemagic at gmail.com.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_00: Emails us if it's especially ridiculous.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we love ridiculous.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_00: We in fact we prefer ridiculous.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_00: Pete, you're the worst, my friend.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely, you're the worst.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_00: This has been the worst, beyond the magic.