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UK Column News — 29th July 2026 · UK Column Radio

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon.
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Speaker 2: It's Wednesday, the twenty ninth of July twenty twenty six,
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Speaker 2: just after one o'clock. Welcome to the uk col News.
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Speaker 2: I'm your host mag Robinson and joining me today by
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Speaker 2: videolink are Charles Mallett and Vanessa Ali.
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Speaker 1: Welcome to the program.
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Speaker 2: Both a letter in the program will be asking what
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Speaker 2: are the multi agency public protection arrangements, will have reports
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Speaker 2: on the statement on the Palantaria NHS contract, the potential
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Speaker 2: for Ukraine to join the war with Rann and the
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Speaker 2: littist from Lebanon. But we're going to begin today by
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Speaker 2: asking who is Danny Bones.
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Speaker 1: Charles, thank you very much.
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Speaker 3: Mike, Good afternoon, Good afternoon all, and it is a
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Speaker 3: good question. Anyone who has spent any time on the
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Speaker 3: platform now known as X over the last few months
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Speaker 3: may have an idea. But what we will do is
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Speaker 3: put a slide on screen from the Bureau of Investigative
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Speaker 3: Journalism with a picture of somebody who is known as
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Speaker 3: Danny Bones. Now to shatter the illusion this is an
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Speaker 3: AI generated character. And in a sense, I'm starting this
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Speaker 3: report with what might be described as old hat, because
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Speaker 3: that's a report from March and it is in some
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Speaker 3: sense is a missive of outrage at what it is
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Speaker 3: that this creation Danny Bones, who's described as a far
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Speaker 3: right rapper has been putting out, albeit in an AI
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Speaker 3: generated sense. And the claim here put forward by the
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Speaker 3: Bureau is that Advance UK, which is described by the
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Speaker 3: Bureau of Investigative Journalism as being more far right than Reform,
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Speaker 3: is manipulating or using imagery and music put out by
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Speaker 3: Danny Bones in order to further their own political objectives.
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Speaker 3: Now will come on to the sort of nuance with
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Speaker 3: regard to that in a minute, but I think it's
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Speaker 3: certainly worth mentioning that in actual fact what they stated
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Speaker 3: was probably a bit more than they could really substantiate,
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Speaker 3: in that this creation comes from the Node Project, and
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Speaker 3: in actual fact it seems that Advanced UK may have
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Speaker 3: paid the creators at the Node Project, whoever they may be,
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Speaker 3: and of course there is a certain amount of obscurity
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Speaker 3: there as to who this so called collective actually is,
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Speaker 3: but that Advanced UK paid in order that material promotional
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Speaker 3: material for their political campaign for the Gorton and Denton
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Speaker 3: by election could be generated and was done so by
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Speaker 3: the Node Project, and therefore making use of this character
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Speaker 3: Danny Bones. Now we'll just go on to the next image,
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Speaker 3: because of course a couple of weeks later we had
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Speaker 3: the Bureau reporting that as a result of the publicity
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Speaker 3: that they'd garnered from the report from the Bureau, that
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Speaker 3: they had effectively cashed in on this and were able
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Speaker 3: to moner the attention that had come their way. But
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Speaker 3: also that currencies also managing to do the same thing.
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Speaker 3: And now an interesting side note is that the Bureau
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Speaker 3: of Investative Journalism considered what was going on to be inappropriate,
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Speaker 3: articular the targeting of Islam as a political weapon, and
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Speaker 3: they reported this to the Electoral Commission, and as far
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Speaker 3: as it's possible to tell from the articles written, there
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Speaker 3: was no response at all from the Electoral Commission, so
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Speaker 3: this seems to have gone without incident. But I think
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Speaker 3: one of the main points to bring out here is
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Speaker 3: that in highlighting this AI creation and label, the specific
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Speaker 3: label pinned onto Danny Bones and everything that goes with
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Speaker 3: him as far right has for a large swathe of society,
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Speaker 3: of course, very much legitimized the content that he's been
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Speaker 3: putting out, because, of course far right is seen as
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Speaker 3: the descriptor for anything that is managing the government or
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Speaker 3: indeed the sort of prevailing state or established narratives. In
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Speaker 3: a matter of extraordinary coincidence, Advanced UK very far Li'm
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Speaker 3: showing on screen now disappeared this morning now at about
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Speaker 3: six o'clock's morning. It was absolutely full of content. It
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Speaker 3: has been reported that the party has been shut down.
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Speaker 3: It's slightly hard to tell what the situation is, but
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Speaker 3: when I came back to take a screenshot of their
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Speaker 3: header from their Twitter page, it had actually disappeared by
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Speaker 3: about eleven o'clock this morning. Now, I'm not sure quite
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Speaker 3: what one says about the power of coincidence, but what
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Speaker 3: I will point back to is that this was the
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Speaker 3: creation of Ben Habib, who of course was involved very
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Speaker 3: much with the financial backing and the campaigning around the
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Speaker 3: Reform Party when Nigel Farrage was in effect setting it up.
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Speaker 3: But he has now thrown his hat in with rupert
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Speaker 3: No's restore and I've just got a tweet from him
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Speaker 3: to articulate that back from June, I wish Restore Britain
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Speaker 3: the best of luck in make a Field, the by
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Speaker 3: election there which of course put the Prime Minister in
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Speaker 3: his current office. We need a serious Prince called nationalist
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Speaker 3: political force in British politics. With success, I hope Restore
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Speaker 3: will morph into that force. Now he's suggesting therefore, I
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Speaker 3: would say, but at that point Restore was not a
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Speaker 3: serious nationalist force to be reckoned with. Now there's plenty
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Speaker 3: more that we can talk about, and we will go onto.
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Speaker 3: But I have reference now this character, Danny Bones. I'm
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Speaker 3: now going to show you a video that was put
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Speaker 3: out by the Node project on Monday, and see what
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Speaker 3: you make of it.
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Speaker 4: It's twenty twenty nine, fourth year of the Civil War.
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Speaker 4: Still sounds strange saying that now civil war. Nobody called
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Speaker 4: it that when it started. Government didn't have the bulls.
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Speaker 4: It was unrest, they said, disorder, tensions, same old words.
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Speaker 4: While the country was very clearly falling apart. I was
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Speaker 4: all of it, more than I should have been, and
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Speaker 4: I can already feel people starting to lie about what
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Speaker 4: this was. There was the Patriots, the Islamic Front Westminster
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Speaker 4: or what was left of it anyway, and the Unity Movement.
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Speaker 4: Unity were all over it early on March's slogans. All
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Speaker 4: that thought they were going to hold the country together
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Speaker 4: didn't last. Spent too long appeas in the Islamic Front
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Speaker 4: got used. Then flat most people adapted, kept their heads down.
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Speaker 4: Something happened in the summer of twenty twenty six, and
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Speaker 4: when the riots kicked off, it was like people were
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Speaker 4: fucking waiting for it. They didn't stop for ages, to
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Speaker 4: be honest, they never did. By mid twenty seven or so,
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Speaker 4: it weren't chaos anymore. It was just different, go on forever.
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Speaker 4: That's why I'm here. I want to get it down
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Speaker 4: when I'm still living it, the truth, what I saw,
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Speaker 4: what I lived, before it gets rewrote into some bullshit memoirs.
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Speaker 4: I suppose memoirs of a Patriot. That's as good a
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Speaker 4: name for it as any.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 3: That is all AI generated, and it's caused quite a
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Speaker 3: stir and a huge, hugely positive response in some quarters.
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Speaker 3: What I'd like to do, Mike is just to ask
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Speaker 3: for your sort of hot feedback. What do you think,
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Speaker 3: what's the message there? What is that supposed to empower
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Speaker 3: people to do well?
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Speaker 1: I think that's a very good question, Charles.
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Speaker 2: The question my mind is, you know, this, is this
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Speaker 2: the normal response to what people are observing in their
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Speaker 2: country or is this so? In other words, is it
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Speaker 2: something that's a reaction to what's going around on around
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Speaker 2: people or is it something which you know is creating
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Speaker 2: the reality that they are presenting there. And my suspicion
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Speaker 2: is that that is you know, I think back to
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Speaker 2: over decades and the types of narratives that we've seen
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Speaker 2: in mainstream drama on television and so on, and how
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Speaker 2: much effect that had on the development of a society.
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Speaker 2: And we're now seeing that same type of thing happening
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Speaker 2: in social media. So you know, I very much would
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Speaker 2: view that type of content as being something quite dark
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Speaker 2: and nefarious.
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Speaker 3: I think, so, I think it can definitely be that way,
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Speaker 3: And if you're only listening and not watching, I would
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Speaker 3: recommend that you do actually go to back that video down.
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Speaker 3: I've cropped that down to a shorter version. It is
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Speaker 3: in fact considerably longer, But the main point is that
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Speaker 3: you see the protagonist firing automatic weapons pistols a lot
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Speaker 3: in what is created to be a very very realistic scene,
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Speaker 3: very obviously set in England, with a reference to the
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Speaker 3: Islamic Front. Now. I spoke about monetization earlier. The Node
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Speaker 3: project has of course very much monetized this, and we'll
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Speaker 3: just look at the branding that they've got going on
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Speaker 3: their website now selling T shirts which we can just
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Speaker 3: see now for England. Of course, therefore they are not
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Speaker 3: just using the sort of nationalist rhetoric but also supposedly religious,
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Speaker 3: although I would say, in fact religious is not quite
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Speaker 3: the right words, certainly not pertaining to Christianity, but to
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Speaker 3: a sort of modern crusade against what they're regarding or
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Speaker 3: at least portraying as the a situation in which Islam
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Speaker 3: must be eradicated from the United Kingdom. There's another T
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Speaker 3: shirt here, in effect suggesting that criminalizing this chat Danny
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Speaker 3: Bones in a way again legitimizes what it is that
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Speaker 3: he's doing, just on the Christianity aspect and the way
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Speaker 3: that this is being positive against Islam. Vanessa, I'd just
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Speaker 3: be very interested in your take on the way you're
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Speaker 3: looking at what's happening here through this sort of of media,
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Speaker 3: with your perspective from where you are.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean definitely, I don't think the Crusader
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Speaker 5: movement has ever really gone away, and now of course
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Speaker 5: we're seeing a resurgence. Mike saw the kind of Knight's
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Speaker 5: templar style flags at some of the far right protests,
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Speaker 5: and I think saying a move toward aditional maybe and
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Speaker 5: a resurgence or a renaissance of the Crusader movement, which
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Speaker 5: of course is very powerful here in Lebanon with the
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Speaker 5: Maronite Christians that very much relate to particularly the French Crusaders.
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Speaker 3: I think a very good point, very good context, and
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Speaker 3: I think there is absolutely whether or not that this
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Speaker 3: is the intent, but it absolutely plays into the hands
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Speaker 3: of the Israel lobby. Now, the one bit that has
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Speaker 3: not been mentioned at all is section one of the
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Speaker 3: Terrorism Act two thousand and six, which I'm going to
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Speaker 3: put on screen now, incouragement of terrorism. And I'd just
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Speaker 3: like you to consider whether you think that that video
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Speaker 3: falls into this category, which says that it includes every
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Speaker 3: statement which glorifies the commission or preparation, whether in the past,
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Speaker 3: in the future, or generally of such acts or offensive
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Speaker 3: or is a statement from which members of the public
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Speaker 3: could reasonably be expected to infer that what is being
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Speaker 3: glorified is being glorified as conduct that should be emulated
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Speaker 3: by them in existing circumstances. Now there's a gray area
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Speaker 3: here because it is AI and that seems to be
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Speaker 3: manipulated or at least taken advantage of for the time being,
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Speaker 3: but I will leave it there, but I think we
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Speaker 3: should absolutely talk about this more an extra because I
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Speaker 3: think it raises a whole load of points, especially when
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Speaker 3: you consider that criminal damage has been considered terrorism, as
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Speaker 3: has the stabbing of two Jewish Men in Golders Green
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Speaker 3: at the same time as the Muslim was stabbed. So
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Speaker 3: there's a lot more to talk about on.
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Speaker 2: This absolutely, Thank you very much for that, Charles, and
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Speaker 2: I let's move on to well, begin with Monday then,
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Speaker 2: and Zelenski was in the UK on Monday, Burnham in
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Speaker 2: a complete change of policy because that's what he was
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Speaker 2: to do, wasn't it. That's what he was going to do.
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Speaker 2: Underline to President Zelenski, the UK's unwathering support for Ukraine
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Speaker 2: both through the war and beyond. You'll excuse my sarcasm there. Now,
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Speaker 2: the government wants everyone to know that the visit illustrates
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Speaker 2: the strength of the relationship between the UK and Ukraine.
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Speaker 2: Now they met at His Majesty's nivelbe a sportsmouth. That's
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Speaker 2: just a very brief Listen to what they said.
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Speaker 6: We are with Ukraine one hundred percent. I am personally
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Speaker 6: with you one hundred percent, mister President, and I will
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Speaker 6: honor every commitment this country has made to Ukraine in full.
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Speaker 6: So put it simply, Vladimir, I want you to know
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Speaker 6: that we've got your back. You can count on me,
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Speaker 6: and you can count on us. You can count on
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Speaker 6: the UK for as long as it takes. Thank you,
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Speaker 6: Slava Ukraini.
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Speaker 7: Our relationship with the UK is stronger than ever, and
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Speaker 7: I thank Andy for his commitment to this partnership and
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Speaker 7: for giving too much attention to defense and to our security.
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Speaker 7: Thank you to everyone in this absolutely great city. And
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Speaker 7: they crowed the UK who has stood with Ukraine, who
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Speaker 7: has helped us resist Russia's war, and who is helping
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Speaker 7: make sure that our two flags, the Ukrainian and the British,
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Speaker 7: continue to fly proudly above our.
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Speaker 2: Strong So there you go. Now, just on what Burnham
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Speaker 2: was saying, I mean the words that they appreciated. This
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Speaker 2: is part of a longer speech, so he had the
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Speaker 2: speech written down. But it did find it slightly amusing
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Speaker 2: that he had to fair to that to make those
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Speaker 2: kind words at the end, And I just wonder does
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Speaker 2: he actually believe any of what he was saying. But anyways,
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Speaker 2: Zelenski went on too the United States, where Trump had
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Speaker 2: him or met him for an hour, obviously for an hour,
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Speaker 2: but didn't make any effort to meet him on the
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Speaker 2: steps of the White House. Net Yahoo was also in
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Speaker 2: the US, as Vanessa is going to come on to
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Speaker 2: in a minute. He was also not met by Trump
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Speaker 2: but at the steps of the White House, but he
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Speaker 2: got half an hour longer than Celenski did. So maybe
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Speaker 2: that gives us some idea of the pecking order. But Vanessa,
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Speaker 2: in the meantime, you know, the Iran situation is, you know,
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Speaker 2: it's a question of the attacks are on and then
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Speaker 2: they're off again. They've been off for through the three days,
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Speaker 2: and now they're back on again. But there's been a
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Speaker 2: new development which is perhaps even more concerning.
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Speaker 5: Well, yes, I was just wondering if Andy Banham is
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Speaker 5: modeling his wardrobe on Zelensky for that meeting. But I
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Speaker 5: think what we're we've been talking about Ukrainian forces or
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Speaker 5: special forces in Syria. They were there in Syria leading
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Speaker 5: up to the fall of Damascus in twenty twenty four,
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Speaker 5: and what we now appear to be seeing is a
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Speaker 5: further weaponization of Ukraine by NATO, effectively led of course
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Speaker 5: by the US and Israel. Although they're not part of NATO,
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Speaker 5: but you understand what I mean against Iran. And so
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Speaker 5: this is a story that basically broke on July the
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Speaker 5: twenty fifth. Iran says Ukrainian attack on vessel in the
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Speaker 5: Caspian Sea killed a sailor. Now, what is quite interesting
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Speaker 5: within that article, it's Zelenski that is pushing the narrative
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Speaker 5: that Russia is supplying Iran with the coordinates of the
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Speaker 5: US basis and personnel that Iran has been successfully hitting.
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Speaker 5: Of course, Lavov has effectively denied that. I would also question.
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Speaker 5: But what is interesting is Zelensky is being used to
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Speaker 5: actually push this narrative through. Now, the ship was hit
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Speaker 5: in the Caspian Sea, so just let's have a look
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Speaker 5: where that is. That's actually an enclosed body of water
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Speaker 5: that you can see there. It borders Iran and Russia.
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Speaker 5: We know that in Tatistan there is actually a joint
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Speaker 5: Iranian Russian facility that is manufacturing dromes based on Iranian
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Speaker 5: technology largely. Now, what is slightly for me the Ukraine
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Speaker 5: and as to that it was Iran supplying drones and
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Speaker 5: components to Russia, Israeli media has actually said the opposite.
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Speaker 5: So this would immediately suggest to me this is a
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Speaker 5: propaganda narrative that is being pushed through. But then if
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Speaker 5: we come on to what Zelenski initially said after the
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Speaker 5: attack on the Iranian ship, Iranian flagship called Anna, we
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Speaker 5: also achieved very strong results with long range strikes, which
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Speaker 5: are drone strikes in the Caspian Sea, including vessels used
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Speaker 5: in military cargo shipments involving Iran as well as a warship. Now,
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Speaker 5: the Foreign Minister of Iran was also very bullish on
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Speaker 5: social media. He went on x and said Zelenski has
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Speaker 5: attacked an Iranian commercial vessel, killing a sailor, a blatant
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Speaker 5: un charter violation done at Israel's perhest to drag Europe
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Speaker 5: into its war. He also said in calls with the
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Speaker 5: EU High Representative Kallas and f M. Lavrov made clear
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Speaker 5: that what the freeloader in Kiev did cannot go on, answered,
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Speaker 5: cannot go on, answered in capital letters. Then we have
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Speaker 5: the Foreign Ministry, a spokesperson Bagaye on the attack and
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Speaker 5: what he basically said. He was also pretty bullish about it.
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Speaker 5: If we can just have that up on screen, Zelenski's
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Speaker 5: behavior resembles pre World War One anarchist whose actions had
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Speaker 5: consequences across Europe. Within the speech, he goes on to
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Speaker 5: say there will be an unpredictable response to Ukraine. Then
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Speaker 5: suddenly they both appeared to walk back the escalation. So
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Speaker 5: Alashi more recently went into acts and said he was
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Speaker 5: assured by the Ukrainian foreign minister that the attack on
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Speaker 5: an Iranian ship was unintentional and Ukraine seeks no escalation.
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Speaker 5: Iran does not seek escalation either, but made clear any
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Speaker 5: attack on our citizens or interests is unacceptable. He does
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Speaker 5: then ask for compensation. Now what I find quite interesting
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Speaker 5: this we can talk more about this in EXTRA. I'm
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Speaker 5: wondering why Iran back down and why Ukraine back down
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Speaker 5: at that point? Is it because the operation in Syria
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Speaker 5: against Lebanon is looming and Ukraine is instrumental to that?
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Speaker 5: Is it because Iran does not want to expand the
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Speaker 5: war basically into Europe and against NATO, Because remembering that
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Speaker 5: the drone production sites are no longer in Ukraine, the
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Speaker 5: majority of them are in Europe. We can talk more
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Speaker 5: about this in EXTRA. But then coming back to the
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Speaker 5: United States, of course, after his visit to Portsmouth, Lynski
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Speaker 5: is now in the US at the same time as
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Speaker 5: Natinya Who. They attended the funeral of war criminal Lindsay Graham,
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Speaker 5: and this is what he said after his meeting with Trump.
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Speaker 5: He said, a good meeting with President Trump in the
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Speaker 5: Oval Office. Thank you for everything we're doing together to
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Speaker 5: protect the lives of Ukrainians and a chief peace first
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Speaker 5: and foremost. I expressed President our Trump to Trump our
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Speaker 5: condolences regarding the death of Lindsay Graham, true friend of Ukraine.
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Speaker 5: We discussed with the President licenses for the production of
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Speaker 5: interceptors for patriots and some other ideas that could help.
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Speaker 5: I like that section, some other ideas that could help
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Speaker 5: help with what we also talked about diplomacy. It is
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Speaker 5: important to activate the diplomatic process. Our teams will coordinate
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Speaker 5: the details of their further communication. Grateful to the United
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Speaker 5: States for their strong support. Well that's a huge word, Salad.
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Speaker 5: As far as I'm concerned, says very little. Natanya Who
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Speaker 5: and Zelenski actually met at Lindsey Graham's funeral. If we
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Speaker 5: just play this video, I've actually removed the voice over
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Speaker 5: by Channel four because, of course Channel four describes both
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Speaker 5: men as being involved in wars where in reality, one
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Speaker 5: is in a proxy war for NATO. The other, of course,
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Speaker 5: is conducting a genocide against Palestinians. So good on Channel
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Speaker 5: four for getting that wrong again, just as they did
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Speaker 5: many times. Of course in Syria. Now whether Natanyahu and
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Speaker 5: Solesky are going to meet, According to the Times of
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Speaker 5: Israel reported by The Cradle, the officers of Israeli Prime
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Speaker 5: Minister Natanyahu and Zelenski are working to arrange bilateral meeting
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Speaker 5: despite years of strange relations. Of course, the timing is
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Speaker 5: very important, just as Israel is effectively planning an operation
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Speaker 5: against the resistance in Lebanon using the al Qaeda ISIS
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Speaker 5: forces in Syria, Ukrainian forces and the support of Turkey.
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Speaker 5: The report says renewed diplomatic effort is driven by their
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Speaker 5: shared focus on Iran. Why on earth would Ukraine have
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Speaker 5: a focus on Iran following Ukraine's recent strike on an
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Speaker 5: Iranian vessel in the Caspian Sea. The development comes a
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Speaker 5: day after Iran's foreign ministry warned Kiev of unforeseen consequences
21:47
Speaker 5: over the attack, and then basically Zelenski was entertained by
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Speaker 5: the oligarchs at Lockkeeed Martin. Again, this is no sounds
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Speaker 5: but we can and see how pleased they were to
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Speaker 5: see him. And Zelenski put a statement on x following
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Speaker 5: the meetings saying that he met with the team of
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Speaker 5: Lockheed Martin, one of the strongest enterprises in the US
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Speaker 5: which we have been cooperating for a long time. Lockheed
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Speaker 5: Martin is the company that produces ATACMS hi Mars F
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Speaker 5: sixteen's and missiles for Patriot systems. We discussed further development
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Speaker 5: of our cooperation, joint production and technology exchange, which is
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Speaker 5: interesting because Ukraine, of course now has developed cheap joint
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Speaker 5: technology and they spoke about joint capabilities related to Patriots
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Speaker 5: and other systems. The teams are already working on specific
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Speaker 2: I Kiss. I'm sure there's nobody doesn't know, but in kiss,
25:23
Speaker 2: someone doesn't know. Alex Bellfield, who is a former BBC
25:27
Speaker 2: Radio Leeds presenter, was sent to prison on the sixteenth
25:30
Speaker 2: of September twenty twenty two for sixty six months. That
25:35
Speaker 2: was in a hearing at Nottingham Rank Court and this
25:37
Speaker 2: was from four kinds of stalking committed between twenty eleven
25:40
Speaker 2: and twenty twenty one two. The convictions involved serious alarm
25:44
Speaker 2: or distress who didn't but all the offenses were carried
25:48
Speaker 2: out electronically, so that's emails, social media posts and YouTube videos.
25:53
Speaker 2: Now he was originally charged in relation to it individuals,
25:57
Speaker 2: but eventually convicted in respect of four. Restraining orders were
26:02
Speaker 2: imposed covering all eight, including those he was acquitted of stalking.
26:07
Speaker 2: The most high profile victim, of course, was Jeremy Vine,
26:11
Speaker 2: the former BBC presenter. His sentence expires in March twenty
26:16
Speaker 2: twenty eight. Bellfield was released automatically on license and that
26:21
Speaker 2: was subject He was, of course subject to pretty stringent
26:24
Speaker 2: conditions and he was released on the twelfth of June
26:29
Speaker 2: last year. Is a license was revoked on the sixteenth
26:32
Speaker 2: of February this year, and he was returned to custody
26:36
Speaker 2: in prison the following day. The Probation Service confirmed the
26:40
Speaker 2: recall publicly on the twenty sixth of March, saying only
26:43
Speaker 2: that it does not hesitate to return offenders to prison
26:47
Speaker 2: who break the rules, and declining to specify which rules
26:51
Speaker 2: he had breached. Now, Bellfield claims on his website the
26:55
Speaker 2: prisoners recalled with a new charge are automatically released in
27:00
Speaker 2: twenty eight days twenty eight days from the point of
27:03
Speaker 2: the recall. So he's therefore claiming that he's been on
27:07
Speaker 2: the receiving any special treatment here because at this point
27:10
Speaker 2: in time he's still in prison, well past that twenty
27:13
Speaker 2: eighth day limit. Now my understanding is that in fact,
27:17
Speaker 2: he was recalled on what's described as a standard recall,
27:20
Speaker 2: not a fixed term recall, and so it's the parole
27:23
Speaker 2: Board who has to decide whether or when he will
27:27
Speaker 2: be released. So at the beginning of this month, the
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Speaker 2: pro board granted an application for the review to be
27:34
Speaker 2: for a review to be heard in public, and that
27:36
Speaker 2: review is going to take place in November. Bellfield I
27:40
Speaker 2: believe was behind that that request for it to be
27:43
Speaker 2: in public, and so he has obviously fully supported the application. However,
27:48
Speaker 2: the Secretary of State for Justice didn't, and he been
27:53
Speaker 2: making that sort of decision relied on the views of
27:58
Speaker 2: an unnamed victim who's engage with the victim contact scheme,
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Speaker 2: who was claiming the detrimental impact of increased media interest.
28:08
Speaker 2: A second victim, an investigating police officer, also opposed it,
28:12
Speaker 2: with the police officer, arguing that Bellfields has shown no
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Speaker 2: remorse and casts himself as a victim of a government conspiracy. Now,
28:19
Speaker 2: the reason I'm bringing this up at this time is
28:24
Speaker 2: the coolest question of government conspiracy because Bellfield claims that
28:29
Speaker 2: his case is being handled under the Multi Agency Public
28:33
Speaker 2: Protection Arrangements. Now he claims specifically MAA MAPA two Level three,
28:38
Speaker 2: which he claims is equivalent to terrorism, and he sets
28:43
Speaker 2: that against what he describes as a zero point one
28:46
Speaker 2: six percent risk of serious harm. This is the score
28:50
Speaker 2: that he has been given. So two things to point
28:53
Speaker 2: out here. Category four of MAPA is a terrorism category,
28:57
Speaker 2: not category two. Kadriick two covers violent and other sexual
29:02
Speaker 2: offenders since the twelve months or more. Now, of course
29:05
Speaker 2: he's not a sexual offender. He's being classed as a
29:08
Speaker 2: violent defender. But those two categories are locked together into
29:12
Speaker 2: category two.
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Speaker 1: And then he.
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Speaker 2: Also described level three. The level three criteria expressly includes
29:19
Speaker 2: cases attracting a high risk of media scrutiny or public interest,
29:24
Speaker 2: and not any kind of imminent danger. So the Parole
29:28
Speaker 2: Board decision has made no reference to MAPA. So at
29:32
Speaker 2: this point there is no independent confirmation that I can
29:35
Speaker 2: find that he is subject to MAPA oversight, but nonetheless
29:41
Speaker 2: this is a worthwhile opportunity to have a look at
29:45
Speaker 2: MAPA and what it's all about. So anyway, just to
29:48
Speaker 2: put this in perspective, on the thirty first of March
29:50
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, the MAPA population was ninety seven and
29:54
Speaker 2: fifty in the UK, of how one hundred and ninety
29:57
Speaker 2: three were managed at level three dined seven percent on
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Speaker 2: the previous year. So level three is roughly to zero
30:05
Speaker 2: point two percent of the people managed through MAPA. So
30:09
Speaker 2: if the claim, if Elfhi's claim is accurate, it's pretty
30:13
Speaker 2: exceptional and it absolutely suggests government conspiracy. On the other hand,
30:19
Speaker 2: Her Majesty's Inspector of Constabulary concluded in the Living in
30:23
Speaker 2: Fear Report that a substantial number of potentially dangerous stalking
30:28
Speaker 2: perpetrators were probably not being managed under recognized defender management
30:33
Speaker 2: processes like MAPA, and in March twenty twenty three they
30:37
Speaker 2: published revised MAPA Guidance including instructions on containing instructions on
30:43
Speaker 2: stalking offenders, and they absolutely were wanting stalking offenders to
30:49
Speaker 2: be much more stalking offender cases to be much more
30:52
Speaker 2: managed by this type of regime and that was particularly
30:56
Speaker 2: highlighted in the twenty twenty four super Complete Report that
30:59
Speaker 2: you just so there a second ago, which find that
31:02
Speaker 2: recent changes to the statutory guidance require agencies to consider
31:06
Speaker 2: managing more stocking of vendors under MAPPER. So let's just
31:10
Speaker 2: briefly have a look at what the concern might be
31:13
Speaker 2: over MAPPA, because it is a fascinating regime. So a
31:18
Speaker 2: map A panel meets in private. If you're a decided,
31:20
Speaker 2: if they decide that you are to be managed by
31:22
Speaker 2: this group, it happens in private. The subject is not present,
31:26
Speaker 2: so if it was me, I would not be allowed
31:28
Speaker 2: to attend. There is no formal hearing. There's no right
31:32
Speaker 2: of appeal against the decisions of a map A meeting.
31:36
Speaker 2: A person made subject to MAPA should be notified. I
31:40
Speaker 2: may request information about what was discussed, but will not
31:43
Speaker 2: be necessarily be given all of the information of what
31:46
Speaker 2: was discussed. The MAPA population, as I say, reached ninety
31:50
Speaker 2: seven fifty on the thirty first of March twenty twenty five.
31:53
Speaker 2: That's up forty two percent since twenty fifteen. A category
31:57
Speaker 2: three three needs no conviction for specified offense at all,
32:02
Speaker 2: and an individual that can be placed under MAPPA because
32:04
Speaker 2: the kiss is in the news, or because of who
32:07
Speaker 2: the offender or the victim is. So you know, this
32:11
Speaker 2: is quite draconian in its structures. And Charles, I don't
32:15
Speaker 2: know if you've got any thoughts on it, but you
32:17
Speaker 2: know the fact that this has happened, fact that this
32:20
Speaker 2: all happens effectively in secret, and actually largely people aren't
32:23
Speaker 2: even aware that MAPPA is a thing should be caused
32:27
Speaker 2: for concern.
32:31
Speaker 3: I think it's one of very many things that should
32:33
Speaker 3: be caused for concern, not so much just because it's secret,
32:38
Speaker 3: but of course that is an element of it, but
32:40
Speaker 3: also because it can be completely arbitrary and and it
32:44
Speaker 3: just falls in line with a raft of similar protocols
32:49
Speaker 3: or procedures, whereby people who haven't either committed the relevant
32:54
Speaker 3: offense or in some cases haven't committed an offense at all,
32:58
Speaker 3: can still be inned by this type of control mechanism,
33:03
Speaker 3: and MAPPA is one example. The other I would say
33:06
Speaker 3: is that is the number of different laws now which
33:08
Speaker 3: contains some sort of order which may be imposed without
33:11
Speaker 3: any consultation with the subject, and of course a breach
33:15
Speaker 3: of the order then does lead to a criminal sanction
33:17
Speaker 3: so it's just another net that may be used in
33:21
Speaker 3: whichever way the government or any of the sort of
33:25
Speaker 3: authorities further down the food chain may flex their muscles
33:28
Speaker 3: and there's no accountability whatsoever. And this sort of thing,
33:32
Speaker 3: as exactly as you say, is not known about it
33:34
Speaker 3: and therefore not challenged.
33:36
Speaker 2: Absolutely, no, it's not known about it because the mainstream
33:39
Speaker 2: media doesn't cover it, but the UK column has been
33:41
Speaker 2: covering it for well over a decade. So to use
33:44
Speaker 2: the search function on the website and have a look
33:47
Speaker 2: at some of our past coverage of it, Vanessa, let's
33:51
Speaker 2: come back to you now then, and well give us
33:55
Speaker 2: an up to date an update on Well, let's begin
33:58
Speaker 2: with Saudi Arabia and their attack on Iraq.
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Speaker 5: Yes, so while Ukraine is obviously being triggered to escalate
34:08
Speaker 5: the conflict against Iran in particular, Saudi Arabia apparently has
34:16
Speaker 5: also been given the same task, so effectively, this was
34:22
Speaker 5: in the New York Times. Saudi's blame Iran back militias.
34:27
Speaker 5: Of course, it's framed in this way based in Iraq
34:30
Speaker 5: for drone attacks. What they're talking about, of course, the
34:33
Speaker 5: forces like the Popular Mobilization Force, which is actually part
34:37
Speaker 5: of the Iraqi military and what actually happened. So the
34:45
Speaker 5: part of the image that you can see there is
34:47
Speaker 5: part of a satellite image which shows the oil facilities
34:52
Speaker 5: at a Kake in wait a minute eastern Saudi Arabia
34:59
Speaker 5: on the coast of the Strait of Homos actually in flames.
35:03
Speaker 5: You can see that on the right there. Now, I
35:06
Speaker 5: just want to quickly show a map to try and
35:09
Speaker 5: show the areas that were targeted during the attack, and
35:12
Speaker 5: I'll come onto whether it was Iraq or not. So
35:15
Speaker 5: there you can see what is effectively the Iramco petroline
35:20
Speaker 5: or the abgaike Yanbu pipeline, Saudi Arabia's most strategically critical
35:25
Speaker 5: pipeline to circond that or to get away from the
35:29
Speaker 5: use of the Strait of Hormos. However, it's even at
35:33
Speaker 5: its optimum usage, it's transporting seven million barrels a day, whereas,
35:40
Speaker 5: of course, pre war the Strait of Homos was around
35:44
Speaker 5: twenty million barrels per day. However, it's a crucial land
35:50
Speaker 5: transport corridor for both LNG and oil, and the red
35:57
Speaker 5: dots that I've put there also further south on the
36:01
Speaker 5: border with Yemen was targeted, but those are the two
36:04
Speaker 5: main areas that were targeted oil facilities belonging to IRAMKO. Now,
36:10
Speaker 5: if we look at the fact that US Sentcom also
36:14
Speaker 5: went on to x to say effectively, US Saudi forces
36:18
Speaker 5: strike Iran backed terrorist sites in Iraq. Again the framing
36:23
Speaker 5: of course that these are terrorist organizations being attacked in
36:27
Speaker 5: defense by Saudi Arabia. So let's have a look at
36:30
Speaker 5: what they actually said. US Central Command and the Saudi
36:35
Speaker 5: Arabian Armed Forces conducted precision strikes in Iraq July the
36:39
Speaker 5: twenty eighth against Iran aligned terrorists that the Islamic Revolutionary
36:43
Speaker 5: God Corps directed to attack US forces and Saudi energy infrastructure.
36:50
Speaker 5: US and Saudi fighter aircraft struck multiple terrorists, logistics and
36:54
Speaker 5: weapon sites across eastern Iraq in a strong response to
36:57
Speaker 5: over thirty IRGC directed aerial drawing attacks in the last
37:02
Speaker 5: seventy two hours. Now, the PMF themselves have put out
37:07
Speaker 5: a very strong statement. This is reported by VPOL here
37:11
Speaker 5: in Lubanon. And what the statement actually says. A number
37:15
Speaker 5: of official PMF headquarters across different areas of Iraq was
37:19
Speaker 5: subjected this morning to terrorist attacks carried out by US
37:23
Speaker 5: and Saudi forces resulting, according to preliminary information, in the
37:27
Speaker 5: martyrdom of several personnel and the injury of others. In fact,
37:31
Speaker 5: the number of dad has now risen to twenty and
37:35
Speaker 5: the number of injured to thirty two. There is quite
37:39
Speaker 5: a lot of uproar in the Iraqi parliament as to
37:42
Speaker 5: why there has been no response to this, which is
37:46
Speaker 5: perceived as an attack on Iraqi sovereignty. And the PMF
37:52
Speaker 5: has worn the Saudi regime that any reckless Saudi act
37:55
Speaker 5: will be met with a harsh response. So we've immediately
37:57
Speaker 5: seen an escalation into Iraq by Saudi Arabia. Now the
38:03
Speaker 5: interesting thing for me is Yemen actually took responsibility for
38:07
Speaker 5: this attack. So this actually means that the US and
38:12
Speaker 5: Saudi Arabia are saying it's the Iraqi resistance in order
38:16
Speaker 5: to target Iraq. And we'll come on to why in
38:18
Speaker 5: a minute. So this was a general sire of Yemen's
38:23
Speaker 5: and Schuller which takes credit for attacks on Saudi oil facilities.
38:28
Speaker 5: He said. The first operation targeted sensitive and critical sites
38:32
Speaker 5: at Oramko facilities in Jasan, which is in the south,
38:35
Speaker 5: using tensi ballistic missiles and drones. In the second operation,
38:39
Speaker 5: he said, the yemen E arenforces struck sensitive Aramko targets
38:43
Speaker 5: in Yanbu using a combination of ballistic missiles, cruise missiles
38:47
Speaker 5: and drones. Now why is this important If we have
38:51
Speaker 5: a look of course, Yemen has very recently blocked the
38:55
Speaker 5: Red Sea to Saudi shipping. But if we have a
38:58
Speaker 5: look at the map, and I've been talking over the
39:00
Speaker 5: last few weeks of the build up of forces both
39:02
Speaker 5: of Jolani, of Turkey of Ukrainians in the areas that
39:07
Speaker 5: I've particularly marked, so on the coast around the border
39:10
Speaker 5: of Lebanon. Now in Homs, Ukrainian forces are now in
39:15
Speaker 5: Hom's to the border with Lebanon a Leppo and on
39:18
Speaker 5: that coastal area, the dotted red circle is the base
39:22
Speaker 5: of altanav which we talked about, which was targeted by Iran,
39:26
Speaker 5: destroying some US special forces that have been air dropped
39:30
Speaker 5: in to transit Iraq to the Kurdish separatist factions on
39:35
Speaker 5: the border with Iran in order to attempt a ground invasion.
39:39
Speaker 5: But if you look at where Iraq is, obviously the
39:43
Speaker 5: plan is if Jolani leads any kind of offensive, whatever
39:48
Speaker 5: shape it takes against Lebanon, the threat has been from
39:52
Speaker 5: the Iraqi resistance factions that they will enter Syria to
39:57
Speaker 5: prevent any attacks on has been So what is now
40:01
Speaker 5: happening Saudi Arabia has been triggered to try and eliminate
40:06
Speaker 5: that threat to the NATO and Jolani forces that are
40:11
Speaker 5: gathering in Syria to carry out operations against Lebanon.
40:15
Speaker 2: In my opinion, yes, thank you for that, Vanessa. We'll
40:20
Speaker 2: talk about that an extra as well of no diet, Charles.
40:23
Speaker 2: Let's come back to the United Kingdom then, And it
40:27
Speaker 2: looks like we're heading towards We've known this is coming
40:30
Speaker 2: for some time. Smart c these.
40:35
Speaker 3: We are, or at least it seems that we are.
40:39
Speaker 3: Of course, there's always rather hard to tell which way
40:41
Speaker 3: any of this is going to go. In actual fact,
40:44
Speaker 3: what I'm going to talk about for this report is
40:47
Speaker 3: actually climate related and I will come on smart cities
40:50
Speaker 3: a little bit later. So just when you thought that
40:53
Speaker 3: you'd heard it all with regard to climate, there's now
40:58
Speaker 3: a document just published by the Government Office for Science
41:03
Speaker 3: which says that they're going to be putting people at
41:06
Speaker 3: the center of UK climate adaptation and resilience, which would
41:10
Speaker 3: seem to be a concession that trying to manipulate people's
41:15
Speaker 3: minds with references to the environment or to wildlife simply
41:19
Speaker 3: isn't cutting the mustard these days. Now, I'm just going
41:23
Speaker 3: to advance this on a little bit, because the important
41:27
Speaker 3: text that they wanted to get out at the front
41:29
Speaker 3: of this report was that this is not a statement
41:32
Speaker 3: of government policy. Now we're going to go on to
41:35
Speaker 3: interrogate exactly what might be meant by that and whether
41:38
Speaker 3: that really can stand up as a sort of verifiable statement.
41:44
Speaker 3: But it says that, specifically with regard to climate change
41:49
Speaker 3: or the effects of it being felt in the United Kingdom,
41:52
Speaker 3: which of course is the premise for this publication, is
41:56
Speaker 3: they're saying that these impacts are not experienced evenly. Some
42:01
Speaker 3: people are more vulnerable and less able to adapt than
42:04
Speaker 3: others due to their social situation, income, access to support,
42:08
Speaker 3: and where they live. So the age old tool of
42:12
Speaker 3: manipulating people by the suggestion that there is inequality and
42:15
Speaker 3: therefore some people are going to be forced to moderate
42:19
Speaker 3: their behavior in order to compensate for those who are
42:22
Speaker 3: victimized by climate change. Now, with regard to the particular
42:25
Speaker 3: comments about the impact of climate change being felt in
42:28
Speaker 3: the United Kingdom. Of course, a lot of people listening,
42:30
Speaker 3: I dare say, would balk such a suggestion. But when
42:34
Speaker 3: you consider that this is an incredibly powerful narrative, and
42:37
Speaker 3: in fact what's fallen out of it is the net
42:39
Speaker 3: zero agenda and the enormous costs and societal changes associated
42:44
Speaker 3: with it, that probably could be considered to be a
42:48
Speaker 3: fair statement. Now going back to the author of the document,
42:52
Speaker 3: which is they're called ACCESS. Now, ACCESS is in fact
42:58
Speaker 3: the Advancing for Climate and Environmental Social Science, and they
43:05
Speaker 3: are described as being therefore remote from government, there're nothing
43:10
Speaker 3: to do with government. But I think we'll just interrogate
43:12
Speaker 3: that a little bit further, because in actual fact they
43:14
Speaker 3: are funded by the Economic and Social Research Council, which
43:19
Speaker 3: in turn is funded by the UK Research and Innovation,
43:24
Speaker 3: which has its coffers filled by the Department for Science,
43:27
Speaker 3: Innovation and Technology, and of course they are paid by
43:31
Speaker 3: HM Treasury. So when we consider that this is not
43:36
Speaker 3: a statement of government policy, I think that is on
43:40
Speaker 3: fairly thin ice. Now, as to the document itself, this
43:45
Speaker 3: is in effect the COVID narrative rewritten, and it is
43:48
Speaker 3: absolutely going to set the tone for applied behavioral psychology
43:53
Speaker 3: or nudge as you may know it with regard to
43:56
Speaker 3: convincing people to take certain actions because as other people
44:00
Speaker 3: are doing it. So it's the we're all in it
44:02
Speaker 3: together narrative which has been wrapped up concerning behaviors that
44:07
Speaker 3: are related to climate change and therefore to doing things
44:12
Speaker 3: that are considered to be socially acceptable and in their words,
44:17
Speaker 3: seeing others do it first. They're also putting forward the
44:20
Speaker 3: idea that a lot of this will be decided by
44:22
Speaker 3: citizens assemblies, and the way they're using that. The language
44:26
Speaker 3: used is to involve people with place based knowledge. So
44:31
Speaker 3: this is where it's coming from. I think it's fairly
44:33
Speaker 3: clear which way it's going. And just to round off
44:36
Speaker 3: with some quite considerable climate hypocrisy, the Department for Environment,
44:42
Speaker 3: Food and Rural Affairs has just recently published the Carbon
44:45
Speaker 3: Footprint for the UK and England to twenty twenty three.
44:48
Speaker 3: So admittedly, like all government statistics, well out of date,
44:51
Speaker 3: and whilst they're touting a four percent reduction overall in
44:55
Speaker 3: carbon emissions, it is interesting to note, of course, bearing
44:58
Speaker 3: in mind the idea that government policy is absolutely a
45:01
Speaker 3: thing where this is concerned. So although greenhouse gas emissions
45:04
Speaker 3: from goods and services has fallen by forty nine percent
45:08
Speaker 3: between nineteen ninety six and twenty twenty three. Emissions from
45:11
Speaker 3: imports have risen by forty three percent over the same period.
45:15
Speaker 3: These important emissions now account for more than half of
45:19
Speaker 3: the UK's total carbon footprint. Might just a quick comment,
45:24
Speaker 3: if you will, on where you see this particular application
45:29
Speaker 3: of nudge going.
45:33
Speaker 1: Well, I don't even know how to answer that.
45:38
Speaker 2: Look, we have seen the systematic use of behavioral psychology
45:46
Speaker 2: on the population, particularly highlighted during the covid oocracy, as
45:50
Speaker 2: you say, but this is something that's been going on
45:52
Speaker 2: for another years before that and is being wrapped up
45:56
Speaker 2: since then. And so you know, we've got to look
45:59
Speaker 2: at the Action to travel and it is increasingly the
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Speaker 2: systematic use of this type of population level mind control.
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Speaker 2: That's not an exaggeration to use that term. This is
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Speaker 2: the type of This is where they're aiming to get
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Speaker 2: to the British government.
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Speaker 1: With this.
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Speaker 3: Fairy much. So yeah, absolutely, and I think again we'll
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Speaker 3: add that to the list to discuss more in extra
46:26
Speaker 3: because I think it relates to so much of what
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Speaker 3: we're talking about today.
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Speaker 2: But let's move on then to volunteer because as everyone
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Speaker 2: will know the NHS federated data platform is currently managed
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Speaker 2: by Volunteer, the planet's perhaps most hated big data company. Now,
46:43
Speaker 2: on the third of June twenty twenty sixth, the National
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Speaker 2: Data guard Guardian, doctor Nicola Byrne published a statement responding
46:51
Speaker 2: to the volume of correspondence generated by the not with
46:54
Speaker 2: My NHS Data campaign that you can see on screen
46:56
Speaker 2: at the moment. Now that statement was updated yesterday now
46:59
Speaker 2: that any England has responded to the National Data Guardian's
47:02
Speaker 2: request for information and clarification. The National Data Guardian is
47:07
Speaker 2: for those who don't know, and supposedly independent statutory officeholder
47:11
Speaker 2: advises the health and care system in England. It's not
47:15
Speaker 2: a regulator, it has no investigatory or enforcement pars. But anyway,
47:19
Speaker 2: she has made a statement and now she and the
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Speaker 2: Information Commissioner reviewed the program's data protection impact Assessment. That's
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Speaker 2: the Palunteer run Programs Data Protection Impact Assessment, which stated
47:34
Speaker 2: that access to identifiable patient information would be limited to
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Speaker 2: NHS staff with legitimate need, But then various reporting on
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Speaker 2: the media, independent media and subsequent confirmation from the program
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Speaker 2: team itself indicated that polunteer staff also had access to
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Speaker 2: identifiable data within the National Data Integration Tenant as it's called,
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Speaker 2: and the National Data Guardian was not aware of this
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Speaker 2: and wrote to the program seeking clarification, emphasizing the need
48:07
Speaker 2: for timely engagement when program decisions change in ways affecting
48:11
Speaker 2: public trust. Now you know, as I say, this is
48:14
Speaker 2: not a regular she is not a regulator, she's got
48:16
Speaker 2: no investigatory pars. So this really is just a PR exercise.
48:21
Speaker 2: But the point here is that AS England now says
48:24
Speaker 2: it accepts that the Data Protection Impact Assessment contained an
48:28
Speaker 2: error in describing supplier access, has apologized for that and
48:34
Speaker 2: has confirmed that three Palanteer engineers hold administrative level access
48:38
Speaker 2: providing back office support, but that as of the fifteenth
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Speaker 2: of June twenty twenty six, a further thirty three engineers
48:45
Speaker 2: from various suppliers hold project specific access, and that engineers
48:50
Speaker 2: could access to identifiable and de identified patient data, but
48:55
Speaker 2: only for specific technical support, they say, and they say
48:58
Speaker 2: that patient data is not routinely access accessed, and they
49:03
Speaker 2: say that access is time limited, role based, subject to
49:06
Speaker 2: government security clearance, reverified every three months for administrative roles
49:10
Speaker 2: and ordered it monthly. NHS England has also updated the
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Speaker 2: privacy notice and says that it's reviewing permissions to reduce
49:19
Speaker 2: supplier access. So the National Data Guardian's updated statement is
49:24
Speaker 2: noting that as a body not involved in the platforms operation,
49:27
Speaker 2: it cannot independently identify or independently verify sorry, whether NHS
49:32
Speaker 2: England's assessment that this access is technically necessary, whether that
49:36
Speaker 2: is a valid assessment or not.
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Speaker 1: And so you know this.
49:42
Speaker 2: Is I'm not sure what you think about this charge,
49:44
Speaker 2: but it seems to me just to be yet another
49:47
Speaker 2: effort to put a sticking plaster over what is really
49:51
Speaker 2: something which should not be happening at all.
49:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, at the risk of sounding like a
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Speaker 3: broken record, I would say the wider point is to
50:02
Speaker 3: continue to ask the question why are we being pushed
50:06
Speaker 3: or funneled into a digital world when it is so
50:09
Speaker 3: very very obvious that the vulnerabilities in every respect, either
50:13
Speaker 3: the treatment of sensitive or personal data, or indeed the
50:16
Speaker 3: vulnerability of any of the systems that are supposed to
50:19
Speaker 3: manage it, or the criminal or fraudulent intent of others
50:23
Speaker 3: who are operating outside of the system, are always there
50:27
Speaker 3: to present an obstacle course to trying to live life
50:32
Speaker 3: like that. So why are we going in that direction
50:34
Speaker 3: without any consideration and any real acknowledgment of the problems.
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Speaker 2: Good questions. Now I'm going to apologize for misqueuing you earlier.
50:42
Speaker 2: So let's get on the smart studies at last.
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Speaker 3: I thought we'd build to gloss over it because of
50:49
Speaker 3: course it is absolutely related, and I will explain why.
50:53
Speaker 3: But this we're going to talk about His Majesty's Government
50:56
Speaker 3: Communications Center HMGCC, which has so slightly bizarre logo on
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Speaker 3: the front page for their website, and I have reported
51:05
Speaker 3: on them a few times in the past. They came
51:07
Speaker 3: in their own words, out of the Shadows in late
51:09
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, and if you can't quite remember what
51:12
Speaker 3: it is that they are supposed to do, they describe
51:14
Speaker 3: themselves as working with the National Security community, which of
51:18
Speaker 3: course is ever burgeoning the UK government, academia, private sector
51:23
Speaker 3: partners and international allies whoever they may be, to bring
51:27
Speaker 3: engineering ingenuity to the National Security Mission, creating tools and
51:33
Speaker 3: technologies that drivers head to help protect the nation. So
51:37
Speaker 3: I've highlighted the bits in bold that I considered to
51:39
Speaker 3: be important. But when we think that they are working
51:43
Speaker 3: in collaboration with the private sector, with international allies, and
51:46
Speaker 3: this is all pointing towards protecting the nation and national security.
51:50
Speaker 3: I think this makes it especially interesting that on HMGC
51:53
Speaker 3: website they have just published an opportunity and the obity
51:57
Speaker 3: is a smart city visionization tool and that is the
52:02
Speaker 3: latest the focus of the Late Creation Challenge. This is,
52:07
Speaker 3: as I say, banner of HMGCC, But of course a
52:11
Speaker 3: partner in the scheme or at least putting this out
52:14
Speaker 3: in order to try to motivate participants is DSTL. But
52:21
Speaker 3: just before we look at them, we'll just see what
52:23
Speaker 3: they're it is. They're actually looking for. A smart city
52:26
Speaker 3: is an urban environment that uses technology, data and connectivity
52:30
Speaker 3: to improve infrastructure, enhance public services and create a safe
52:35
Speaker 3: and sustainable livable But for whom I think the question
52:40
Speaker 3: should really be And as I say, it's DsCl that
52:43
Speaker 3: I would like to bring in at this point because
52:45
Speaker 3: we go back to the eighteenth of March twenty twenty
52:49
Speaker 3: when DsCl published The Future of Our Cities, a new
52:53
Speaker 3: report on the future of urban living, and I'll just
52:55
Speaker 3: quote a little bit from that because they said that
52:58
Speaker 3: this report will help the UK literary to determine where
53:01
Speaker 3: there are significant challenges on the horizon, therefore allowing them
53:05
Speaker 3: to examine potential options to mitigate or better prepare for them.
53:10
Speaker 3: So HMGCC talking about national security, DSTL talking about the military,
53:16
Speaker 3: and that if we just put that back full screen,
53:20
Speaker 3: I just want to show you the photograph that DSTL
53:22
Speaker 3: used at that time, which is a child holding hands
53:26
Speaker 3: with a robot as they're being guided by I would
53:28
Speaker 3: say that the look on the child's face suggests it's
53:31
Speaker 3: not altogether happy with that situation, And of course the
53:33
Speaker 3: fact that it was released just five days before we
53:36
Speaker 3: went into the first round of internments is of course
53:39
Speaker 3: just a coincidence. DsCl also talking about leading on a
53:46
Speaker 3: number of projects looking at innovative tech to answer some
53:49
Speaker 3: of the challenges of urban warfare. So there's there's very
53:53
Speaker 3: much a focus on urban warfare. But of course this
53:55
Speaker 3: is not exactly how it's being described by HMGCC. We
53:59
Speaker 3: just have a look back at what it is they
54:01
Speaker 3: are talking about this opportunity. Specifically, they want innovators to
54:06
Speaker 3: build a tool that lets security professionals visualize a smart
54:11
Speaker 3: city in three D, showing where nodes and sensors are located,
54:16
Speaker 3: how they connect and where the vulnerabilities might be. Well,
54:19
Speaker 3: again I might ask the question vulnerabilities to what, and
54:22
Speaker 3: in specific specific regard to the sensors and the nodes
54:26
Speaker 3: they're talking about, they mean CCTV street lights and utility sensors.
54:31
Speaker 3: But to go back to the connection with the document
54:33
Speaker 3: I've just been talking about with regard to climate, of course,
54:36
Speaker 3: this is in effect a tool that is to surveil
54:40
Speaker 3: and quite possibly much more at the city environment and
54:44
Speaker 3: anyone who's in it. And of course you know that
54:46
Speaker 3: relates directly back to what we're just talking about with data,
54:49
Speaker 3: the digitization and digitalization of everybody's lives in order this
54:54
Speaker 3: can be made to happen. So I think that the
54:57
Speaker 3: partnership between HMGCC and DSL is you know, one should
55:01
Speaker 3: really consider it to be an unholy alliance. And again
55:03
Speaker 3: one wonders exactly where this is going to go.
55:07
Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, Vanessa, let's come back to you then. And
55:10
Speaker 2: of course, as you mentioned in your earlier report, the
55:14
Speaker 2: build up of Jolanese forces on the Lebanese border is
55:18
Speaker 2: still a major concern.
55:22
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is, and the framing continues. We've talked about
55:25
Speaker 5: this in the last few weeks. Again, the language used
55:29
Speaker 5: in the Lebanese government Israeli memorandum of understanding Jolani basically
55:36
Speaker 5: saying he's there to protect the state institutions, which of
55:40
Speaker 5: course have outlawed has Blar as as element within the
55:46
Speaker 5: Lebanese people. So this was a headline in the last
55:50
Speaker 5: few days from Israeli media. Damasco schools has Bar a
55:54
Speaker 5: terrorist militia publicly partners with Iraq to stop arms smudgeling.
56:00
Speaker 5: Now what is this about. So again, if we have
56:03
Speaker 5: a look at the map, we can see circled or
56:08
Speaker 5: sorry circled, and I put an arrow to the border
56:12
Speaker 5: a US space of Altanef. And just a little bit
56:16
Speaker 5: of contextual history here. In twenty fourteen, ISIS terrorists actually
56:21
Speaker 5: took control of that crossing. In I think it was
56:25
Speaker 5: twenty seventeen, it was taken back under control, mostly by
56:30
Speaker 5: the Iraqi resistance, who were the main element within Iraq
56:34
Speaker 5: combating ISIS, which of course is another asset of the
56:37
Speaker 5: United States. Now in Altanef, there were ongoing during the
56:42
Speaker 5: Bashallah Sad government, there was ongoing recruitment, equipment and training
56:49
Speaker 5: of ISIS operatives and in fact, if you remember, the
56:52
Speaker 5: US created a fifty kilometer exclusion zone around altanef from
56:56
Speaker 5: inside which isis operated against this area narrab Armi and
57:01
Speaker 5: allies inside Syria for during the time of the previous government.
57:07
Speaker 5: So that's just the background. So the claim has been
57:11
Speaker 5: from Jolani's government that Iraqi oil trucks tried to smuggle
57:17
Speaker 5: weapons into Syria to take them into Lebanon to has below. Now,
57:22
Speaker 5: the first question should be raised, why on earth would
57:25
Speaker 5: resistance factions use a heavily monitored official border crossing to
57:31
Speaker 5: try and get weapons across Syria and into Lebanon. The
57:34
Speaker 5: other question is, of course, the mercenaries under the control
57:38
Speaker 5: of Jolani have regularly allowed smuggling routes to go ahead
57:42
Speaker 5: taking weapons into Lebanon because they're paid handsomely to do so.
57:46
Speaker 5: So why now has this weapons seizure been And I
57:58
Speaker 5: just want to.
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Speaker 2: Vanessa just just hold on one second, Veressa, because your
58:04
Speaker 2: connection is so summertos.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Sorry, you're going to have to go back to You're
58:10
Speaker 2: going to have to go back to the point where
58:11
Speaker 2: you were talking about them allowing the smuggling across because
58:17
Speaker 2: the connection broke up there.
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Speaker 5: Oh sorry, Okay, So basically I think I just asked
58:24
Speaker 5: the question, why one earth would Jelani whine? Earth would
58:27
Speaker 5: the resistance use an official border crossing heavily monitored by
58:31
Speaker 5: Jolani's security forces to bring weapons in when there are
58:36
Speaker 5: plenty of alternatives. Now, what is also interesting for me,
58:41
Speaker 5: apparently the weapons were found hidden inside an oil tanker,
58:46
Speaker 5: crude oil tanker. I want you to just look at
58:48
Speaker 5: the slide of images that I made and let me
58:51
Speaker 5: know if these appear to you to be weapons that
58:53
Speaker 5: have just been extracted from a crude oil tanker.
59:05
Speaker 1: Not really would be the answer.
59:09
Speaker 5: Reminds you of some of the white helmet stage defense, right,
59:12
Speaker 5: I mean, very neatly laid out, et cetera. I would
59:15
Speaker 5: also ask the question isis has continued to operate inside
59:20
Speaker 5: Syria and to benefit from weapons suddenly arriving in Syria
59:25
Speaker 5: from various sources, but also that with the pending operations
59:30
Speaker 5: against Lebanon, perhaps it's Jilani that actually needs the weapons.
59:33
Speaker 5: But the seizure of the weapons has of course given
59:36
Speaker 5: them ample opportunity to criminal further criminalize Hasbalah and also
59:42
Speaker 5: given Israel the narrative. Hasbala actually came out denying claims
59:49
Speaker 5: of activity in Syria following the weapons seizure. Now, of
59:53
Speaker 5: course do we believe Hasbala generally speaking. Actually, they're pretty
59:58
Speaker 5: honest in their statements, which is something that can't be said,
1:00:01
Speaker 5: of course for the US or for Jilani.
1:00:04
Speaker 1: Okay, thanks for that, Vanessa.
1:00:07
Speaker 2: Apologies for this like technical break up there, but we
1:00:09
Speaker 2: got absolutely got all of that, my Charles. Let's just
1:00:13
Speaker 2: finished then with and finally.
1:00:18
Speaker 3: We will. Over the years, we have had the treat
1:00:21
Speaker 3: of the site of Tony Blair doing headers with Kevin Keegan.
1:00:25
Speaker 3: We've had David Cameron covered in mud on a cross
1:00:28
Speaker 3: country obstacle course, Boris Johnson riding his bike in his shorts,
1:00:32
Speaker 3: and now we have our own vigorous Andy Burnham, man
1:00:36
Speaker 3: of the people running. But of course all the world's
1:00:41
Speaker 3: are stage. This is what we're supposed to see and
1:00:44
Speaker 3: this is what was actually going on, and if you
1:00:47
Speaker 3: can't see it, it's Burnham running towards apparently a camera,
1:00:52
Speaker 3: when an actual fact, there are many cameras set up
1:00:55
Speaker 3: with a microphone on a boom, even lighting and police
1:00:59
Speaker 3: or carefully eating a scene which gives the British, the
1:01:02
Speaker 3: British public, the impression that we have a young and
1:01:07
Speaker 3: fit prime minister. They're waiting to do good for the country.
1:01:16
Speaker 2: Yes, where could that possibly go wrong? I don't know anyway.
1:01:20
Speaker 2: Plenty to talk about in News Extra. If you're a
1:01:22
Speaker 2: UK Call member, stay on the live stream. We've got
1:01:25
Speaker 2: to finish there for today for everybody else, but thanks
1:01:29
Speaker 2: for watching, and thanks to Vanessa and Charles for everything.
1:01:33
Speaker 2: Don't forget interviews tonight seven and nine pm and my
1:01:37
Speaker 2: interview with John Homer at one pm tomorrow. We'll be
1:01:40
Speaker 2: back for another news program as usual at one pm
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Speaker 2: on Friday. We'll see you then.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, Bye bye.