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Big Stu-ey: The Dianna Russini Conversation · Stugotz and Company

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Speaker 1: Is he. Are you ready to have the conversation? Wow,
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Speaker 1: I thought we just did MD versus Lebron. What do
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Speaker 1: you mean? No?
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Speaker 2: We uh, well we did and we'll do it again.
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Speaker 2: But that's not the conversation. I'm talking about a different conversation.
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Speaker 3: Okay, the conversation, the Dan Levatard Show conversation.
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Speaker 1: No, not that conversation.
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Speaker 2: I'll get to that conversation at some point. I know
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Speaker 2: the audience at update on that. We'll get to it
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Speaker 2: in a minute. I'm talking about the conversation.
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Speaker 1: Ah, I still don't know what you're talking about. That's
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Speaker 1: what I'm talking about, Yes, that conversation. Okay.
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Speaker 2: I understand why people want to hear from me on
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Speaker 2: this It is funny that they're holding me to some
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Speaker 2: sort of standards. To God, so if it was someone else,
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Speaker 2: you go right after them. What So I understand why
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Speaker 2: people want to hear from me on this front.
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Speaker 1: They are well aware.
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Speaker 2: People who have listened to me for a long time
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Speaker 2: are well aware of their relationship I have with Diana Rossini,
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Speaker 2: how many times she has been on this show, how
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Speaker 2: good she has been to this show, And they want
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Speaker 2: to hear and they know I talk to her and
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Speaker 2: so they want to hear from my perspective of what
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Speaker 2: is going on with Diana Racini. And I will tell
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Speaker 2: you this, even if Diana Rossini told me all the details,
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't share them with you, and I wouldn't share
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Speaker 2: them with his real good era.
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Speaker 3: So let me let me let me just ask you
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Speaker 3: a couple of questions, because I'm curious about a few things. One,
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Speaker 3: what it like for those who don't really know, how
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Speaker 3: long have you guys been friends? Like obviously you guys
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Speaker 3: talked to when you were on the Dan Levittard Show.
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Speaker 1: You guys did some I believe work at ESPN together.
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Speaker 1: I can't remember the timelines.
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Speaker 2: So I would tell you I can count on maybe
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Speaker 2: two or three hands the amount of actual friends I
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Speaker 2: have in this industry, because our industry is gross, two
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Speaker 2: or three hands, like fifteen people I'm doing The three
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Speaker 2: of them are right now currently doing the show with me.
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Speaker 2: Taylor only wants to talk about the playlist she made
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Speaker 2: on Spotify.
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Speaker 1: That is the only parts of this tailor wants to
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Speaker 1: be a part of.
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Speaker 2: When I asked him if we should talk about it,
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Speaker 2: it was like I was offering like a little vial
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Speaker 2: of some sort of plague.
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Speaker 1: He was just like, what are we gonna say? What
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Speaker 1: am I going to say? Then the silet came out.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and now we want to talk about it, and
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Speaker 2: so we can't talk about until we have the conversation.
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Speaker 2: That's why I'm having the conversation, so then we can
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Speaker 2: make fun of all the other conversations around this. My
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Speaker 2: relationship with Diana, to answer your question, goes back to
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Speaker 2: our time at ESPN, goes back to our time doing
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Speaker 2: shows together in Bristol. She came on, she took calls
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Speaker 2: as her mom. It was laugh out loud, funny. She's
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Speaker 2: funny and from their friendship blossomed and developed and she's
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Speaker 2: a real friend. And so I'm I'm a journalist, I'm
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Speaker 2: a talk show host, and when my real friends fall
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Speaker 2: in some difficult times, I like to support my friends
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Speaker 2: and talk to them and be someone that listens, not talks, listens.
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Speaker 2: This is her story to share when she feels like
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Speaker 2: sharing it. It is not me and it is not
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Speaker 2: my obligation to talk to Diana Rassini privately on the
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Speaker 2: phone and then share it with a radio audience that
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Speaker 2: she doesn't want me to share it with because it's
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Speaker 2: not my story to tell, right, it is her story
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Speaker 2: to tell on her timeline.
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Speaker 3: But it is a tricky situation, right because, as I
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Speaker 3: don't know, if you call me former journalist, whatever, these
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Speaker 3: types of stories never were the ones that would interest
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Speaker 3: me to write about because I didn't think it was
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Speaker 3: my responsibility if it was.
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Speaker 1: A personal story.
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Speaker 3: Sure, if it was a professional story, meaning on the
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Speaker 3: Mike Rabel side of it, because again, even as a
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Speaker 3: journalist covering sports, do not covering other journalists, right.
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Speaker 2: Right, Well, that's part of the interesting thing with this
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Speaker 2: particular story though. It's the person who normally does the
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Speaker 2: reporting and now she's being reported on, correct, you know.
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Speaker 3: And so if I were doing this from a journalistic standpoint,
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Speaker 3: it would be, hey, how is this affecting the Patriots?
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Speaker 3: Is Mike Rabel's job in jeopardy? Has there been anything
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Speaker 3: that has happened that has affected these clubs as a
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Speaker 3: result of this, you know, supposed relationship in the past.
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Speaker 3: None of those things are the salacious things that people
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Speaker 3: want to know, right, And those are the things that
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Speaker 3: people frankly don't deserve to know.
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Speaker 2: Right, yes, yes, And it's the other interesting kind of
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Speaker 2: element of this is you're right.
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Speaker 1: People want those details. They're not really interested in, you know.
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Speaker 2: The I guess the complexities of the relationship and whether
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Speaker 2: or not she's been compromised. She's been compromised. She knows
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Speaker 2: the optics are bad on this. Trust me, Okay, I
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Speaker 2: know the optics are bad on this. I was surprised
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Speaker 2: when I saw the pictures. And this is coming from
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Speaker 2: a person who knows she's had a close relationship. I
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Speaker 2: didn't know it was this kind of close. But has
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Speaker 2: a close relationship with Mike Rabel and has been friendly
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Speaker 2: with him for years, and that might be all that
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Speaker 2: it is. I have no idea. Again, she hasn't told me.
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Speaker 2: Go ahead, Mikey.
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Speaker 4: What's so interesting about this story to me is the
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Speaker 4: speculation is bigger and better than the actual facts. It's
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Speaker 4: more fun to speculate about the next thing as opposed
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Speaker 4: to actually seeing what it is.
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Speaker 5: What the fact is.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of speculation. People are putting together
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Speaker 3: timelines and figuring things out and thinking this, and it's
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Speaker 3: just like, okay, great, let's just say all that is true,
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Speaker 3: and what like, are you satisfied because you know these things?
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Speaker 3: Do you want to watch a movie that is made
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Speaker 3: out of this story, like what those details to me
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Speaker 3: are harmful and if they get out, they hurt people.
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Speaker 3: And it's just like that has nothing to do with
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Speaker 3: what you do. You can go ahead and like do
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Speaker 3: all the internet research you want to do. But I
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Speaker 3: don't think it's fair to ask Stu Gotts, Hey, you
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Speaker 3: know her, tell me what you know.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's kind of bullshit.
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Speaker 2: Now, I will say this that in terms of that lifestyle,
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Speaker 2: being a beat reporter doing what she does or did
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Speaker 2: for a living, what Adam Schefter does. I've had Adam
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Speaker 2: Schefter's parents on to talk about what a bad Sonny
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Speaker 2: is because that job is so time consuming, it will
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Speaker 2: consume your entire life. You'll end up leaving dinners, important
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Speaker 2: family dinners because you have to chase a story. And
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Speaker 2: so Diana and I have had private conversations and public
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Speaker 2: conversations about how I hate that lifestyle. It's a dangerous lifestyle.
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Speaker 2: And also I have seen well past her journalistic you
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Speaker 2: know her journalistic stuff, and I saw a person, and
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Speaker 2: I got to know a person that has a lot
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Speaker 2: more to offer than Hey, so and so is going
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Speaker 2: to be the next defensive coordinator of the Baltimore Ravens.
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Speaker 2: I saw personality. She's been great to me. I will
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Speaker 2: say that on the front end, she has been great
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Speaker 2: to me. She has been there for me at times
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Speaker 2: when I have needed her to be there for me.
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Speaker 2: She is warm, she's compassionate. I love her, and I
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Speaker 2: don't care what happens moving forward. Continue to be her friend.
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Speaker 2: I'll continue to support her. I'll continue to love Diana Rocini.
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Speaker 2: The fact that I'm because of my friendship with her,
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Speaker 2: I am held to some sort of expectation to share
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Speaker 2: every single salacious detail that I discussed privately with Diana
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Speaker 2: Racini with the audiences laugh out loud, funny.
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Speaker 1: But I was saying, is is he?
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Speaker 2: I have had conversations with Schefter, with Diana, with other
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Speaker 2: with shams about how time consuming these particular jobs can be.
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Speaker 2: And for Diana, what I told her was, I think
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Speaker 2: you're a better talk show host. I think it would
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Speaker 2: be an easier lifestyle. I said this before any of
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Speaker 2: this happened, because I truly believe that that lifestyle is
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Speaker 2: the worst it is.
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Speaker 3: I don't want to leave that there. As if you
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Speaker 3: are making excuses for her, I'm not. I understand what
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Speaker 3: you're saying and it's just a side note to I.
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Speaker 1: Just got the audience. No, I want the audience to know.
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Speaker 2: Is he that we have had these conversations as friends
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Speaker 2: for a while now, both on air and off air,
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Speaker 2: just about the lifestyle, but the job, not about any of.
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Speaker 1: This, just that you know, as it relates to this.
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Speaker 2: I told her, well, you're gonna laugh, because when I
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Speaker 2: called her the first time after it came out, I
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Speaker 2: was surprised. I was shocked, like everyone else, the optics
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Speaker 2: are terrible.
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Speaker 1: She knows that, by the way, I would hope, so
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Speaker 1: I think she did. I think we all kind of
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Speaker 1: recognize that. But I think you guys will laugh at this.
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Speaker 2: And Mikey knows my relationship with her better than anyone here.
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Speaker 1: I called her.
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Speaker 2: She answered the phone and I said, I'm jealous, And
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Speaker 2: she said, what of the attention?
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Speaker 1: And I said, well, now, I'm jealous of two things.
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Speaker 1: I didn't think about the attention.
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Speaker 2: I told her I was jealous that she got to
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Speaker 2: spend that much quality time with Rabel.
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Speaker 6: Stu. My favorite thing right now with your involvement in this, yes,
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Speaker 6: is people messaging and saying, Stu, you said you would
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Speaker 6: hire Diane Russini. Why isn't she on the show. She
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Speaker 6: seems a little busy right now with things in her
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Speaker 6: own personal life to where she doesn't want to just
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Speaker 6: jump on a zoom on a Monday talking about what
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Speaker 6: athletes would connote a department store.
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Speaker 1: No, so all of this is funny.
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of let me restate Brandon Marshall's that's
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Speaker 2: so good. Not all of it is funny, okay, And
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Speaker 2: I do have the top five funniest things that have
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Speaker 2: happened from my perspective throughout this entire ordeal. But it's
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Speaker 2: it's not funny. But what is funny is people are
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Speaker 2: holding me to a standard that quite simply, they've never
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Speaker 2: helped beats it. Yeah, I am the core jester of
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Speaker 2: sports radio for the last twenty years, and suddenly you
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Speaker 2: have some sort of journalistic expectation for me. Journalism died
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Speaker 2: the day Michael Wolbam was covering the Cubs wearing a
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Speaker 2: Cubs jersey.
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
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Speaker 4: So I had somebody actually text me and go, well,
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Speaker 4: how come you guys haven't talked about it?
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Speaker 5: How come you haven't do that? You guys are journalists?
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Speaker 5: And I said, WHOA, Yeah, you can call us a
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Speaker 5: lot of things.
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Speaker 1: Don't call me that.
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Speaker 2: Don't you ever call us journalists other than listen, Yes,
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Speaker 2: no is he is. He is a journalist. It's why
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Speaker 2: he's here. He needs to balance us out and needs
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Speaker 2: to make sure I'm treating the with the right tone
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Speaker 2: that I need to be treating this with because I
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Speaker 2: am not apologizing. I am not a mouthpiece for Diana Versiti.
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Speaker 2: I am not apologizing on Diana Versini's behalf. I am
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Speaker 2: simply saying it's her story to tell, it is not
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Speaker 2: my story, and I am simply going to support my friend.
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Speaker 2: I did say if the athletic fired her, I would
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Speaker 2: hire her. They didn't fire her. She stepped down from
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Speaker 2: the athletic, and the offer holds forever. If Diana Verssini
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Speaker 2: decides one day, three months from now, a year from now,
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Speaker 2: two years from now, that she wants to get back
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Speaker 2: into this game, she has a place right here.
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Speaker 3: Well, let me all just say this, just to balance
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Speaker 3: everything out, because I don't want people saying, oh wow,
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Speaker 3: they're just glossing over everything and not really paying attention
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Speaker 3: to the stuff that we want to you know, discuss,
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Speaker 3: And I will say that, you know, as a minority
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Speaker 3: in this business. Some would say a double minority, but
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Speaker 3: I think Hispanic is pretty well representative minorities up. As
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Speaker 3: a minority in this business, you do sort of have
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Speaker 3: a standard, and you know, as a woman in this business,
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Speaker 3: it's it's like it's an unfair higher standard and you
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Speaker 3: are representing and it's very fatiguing and it's very annoying.
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Speaker 3: But you're representing your group of people all the time.
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Speaker 3: And so for this to be the bad look that
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Speaker 3: you know, Diana and everybody recognizes, I think is.
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Speaker 1: Is a knock. It's a step back.
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Speaker 3: I could understand a lot of women reporters, a lot
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Speaker 3: of women journalists being upset about this, and so so
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Speaker 3: that needs to be acknowledged. And again that's something as
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Speaker 3: you're saying, she probably recognizes and just on a personal level,
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Speaker 3: right again, without knowing any details, I am somebody whose
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Speaker 3: first marriage was ended on you know, infidelity, like he
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Speaker 3: was not just faithful to me and it ended my
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Speaker 3: marriage and it shook my world. And a lot of
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Speaker 3: things can happen in somebody's life. When these things are happening,
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Speaker 3: that can a lot of people can go in a
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Speaker 3: bunch of different directions, and it's very you know, potentially harmful.
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Speaker 3: So those are the things that obviously, you know, people
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Speaker 3: with their heart in it, I really want to know
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Speaker 3: what's happening.
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Speaker 1: Are concerned about that too? Are they concerned about the
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Speaker 1: people involved?
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Speaker 3: That's the first thing that I think of is individually
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Speaker 3: the people involved, and not necessarily the people whose names
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Speaker 3: we see in headlines. All right, Yeah, so all that stuff,
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Speaker 3: nobody is saying it doesn't matter. Nobody is saying we
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Speaker 3: just need to get past it, and nobody is saying
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Speaker 3: we just need to talk about football or journalism or
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Speaker 3: anything else. I understand, still understands all of that is
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Speaker 3: a factor in all of this. Yes, but it's not
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Speaker 3: our personal problem. It's not our personal details to dissect.
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Speaker 3: And if you want to have an opinion on what
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Speaker 3: a person or how you would feel about a person
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Speaker 3: who did this, that's fine. Yeah, but you don't have
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Speaker 3: to demand that everybody has the conversation and gives you
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Speaker 3: all the details so you can paint the picture exactly
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Speaker 3: how you want to paint it.
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Speaker 1: That's not for us to.
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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to be there for my friend, a
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Speaker 2: friend who has been there for me during some dark
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Speaker 2: times and has been present, not just you know, physically there,
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Speaker 2: but actually listening and giving me great advice. And she'll
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Speaker 2: continue to be someone that I lean on, and hopefully
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Speaker 2: I'll be someone that she continues.
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Speaker 1: To lean on.
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Speaker 2: And again, if Diana decides that she does want to
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Speaker 2: continue a career, perhaps we have landed exactactly where I
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Speaker 2: thought she should have landed many many years ago before
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Speaker 2: this happened.
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Speaker 1: As a talk show host.
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Speaker 3: I will forever remember this controversy as being the reason
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Speaker 3: I found out that I can't smile because I saw
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Speaker 3: a picture with me, you and Diana Rusini and my
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Speaker 3: smile is upside down. Yes, but it also will very
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Speaker 3: much remember it for the playlist that was circulated. Well,
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Speaker 3: that's all Teller wants to that see him made and
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Speaker 3: you shared with a user named Mike et cetera, et cetera.
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Speaker 3: But the playlist itself, Taylor, what do we think about it? Stu?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I cannot get over how bad this playlist.
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Speaker 2: I mean, shoot her attext and tell her she'll laugh.
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Speaker 2: She needs to laugh. I made her laugh like twice.
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Speaker 2: She got a good night's sleep once. I am telling
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Speaker 2: you when I talked to Diana on the phone, it's
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Speaker 2: not the same Diana.
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Speaker 1: Okay, if that makes.
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Speaker 2: People feel better feel worse, I don't really give a shit.
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Speaker 2: I'm just telling you that zest that you know, that
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Speaker 2: kind of bouncing her step, that pep in her step.
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Speaker 2: When I talked to her, I don't hear it nearly
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Speaker 2: as much as I used to. Obviously that should go
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Speaker 2: without saying to To suggest that Diana isn't feeling this
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Speaker 2: and her family isn't impacted by this is laugh out
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Speaker 2: loud funny.
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Speaker 1: They're impacted. Congratulations you want go ahead? Taylor?
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Speaker 6: Sorry, dare I say it's the worst playlist?
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Speaker 7: Wow?
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Speaker 1: What is he?
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Speaker 6: If I ask you what is the key to a
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Speaker 6: great playlist?
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Speaker 1: What would you say? Wow?
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Speaker 3: A key to a great playst Probably man, I haven't
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Speaker 3: made a playlist.
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Speaker 5: This is like like this question as he's ever been asked.
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Speaker 1: This theme isn't a theme in the big right? Maybe positivity? Right? Bing? No,
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Speaker 1: No theme is the key to a great playlist? Right?
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Speaker 6: The key is if I hit shuffle on this playlist.
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Speaker 6: Nobody is gonna question the next song that comes on
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Speaker 6: or be confused how this song follows this one? Kat
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Speaker 6: POPA Roach and Beyonce should never be on the same playlist.
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Speaker 3: Like, if you're trying to be inspired, and this is
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Speaker 3: the theory, and you're trying to be inspired while you're
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Speaker 3: at a.
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Speaker 1: You know, let's say four game losing streak.
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Speaker 3: Uh, what do you want to listen to that's gonna
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Speaker 3: really want to pick you up and get you go?
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Speaker 3: And I think it's gotta be consistent. It's got to
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Speaker 3: be a style of sog.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 6: So there's fifteen songs on this playlist. I'm looking at
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Speaker 6: it right now. It ranges from Beyonce, Lotto, Tiesto, Pink,
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Speaker 6: Poppa Roach, Red Hot Chili.
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Speaker 1: Peppers, Pink.
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Speaker 3: Why are we raising our glass? It's a tough time.
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Speaker 3: Why are were raising our glass?
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Speaker 6: But this playlist, there's fifteen songs on this playlist. This
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Speaker 6: playlist looks like, Yes, fifteen different people from fifteen different backgrounds.
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Speaker 6: Name a song, a song, it's her playlist, guy, name
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Speaker 6: a song, any song.
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Speaker 5: It's gonna go on this playlist.
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Speaker 1: Mikey, this is all he's wanted to do.
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Speaker 7: This is the only thing he wants to touch around
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Speaker 7: this particular topic.
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Speaker 1: It's not a dangerous topic. I'm not scared to talk
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Speaker 1: about it. She's my fucking friend. I love it. To death.
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Speaker 2: She has talked to me and leaned on me, and
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Speaker 2: she lost her job. She lost her job. Mike Vrabel
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Speaker 2: still coaching the New England Patriots.
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Speaker 4: Anyway, Taylor is dare I say, Taylor, you are one
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Speaker 4: of the better producers in the game right now, I
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Speaker 4: mean you okay, but you have been running from this topic.
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Speaker 4: You have been hiding in the corner about this topic
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Speaker 4: every time we brought it up until that playlist. Well,
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Speaker 4: you have been so upset that we have been waiting
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Speaker 4: to do this because you haven't been able to crush
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Speaker 4: Diana Rassini.
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Speaker 5: Not for all the other things, but.
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Speaker 2: Because this was because what gates are open now so
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Speaker 2: he could do it.
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Speaker 3: Never has anyone wanted to turn the page and then
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Speaker 3: decided to listen to Welcome to the Jungle by Guns N' Roses, Like.
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Speaker 1: No, you mean turned the page seven.
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Speaker 6: If I send somebody this playlist, I would expect them,
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Speaker 6: if they were a head coach, to never win a game.
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Speaker 6: The fact that he made a Super Bowl after this
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Speaker 6: playlist is shocking.
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Speaker 2: I have the top five funny things that have happened
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Speaker 2: for me from my perspective since the story started until today.
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Speaker 1: If you guys want to go there.
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Speaker 2: Mikey A has a concern. He's concerned that we talk
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Speaker 2: about it and then more news comes out after the fact,
17:21
Speaker 2: and I'm not certain it won't.
17:22
Speaker 1: I have no idea. It's dangerous.
17:24
Speaker 2: Those are not the types of discussions I am having
17:26
Speaker 2: when I speak to my friend Diana reci because.
17:30
Speaker 1: She would, she would let you know, Hey, back on
17:32
Speaker 1: a little bit. Listen.
17:33
Speaker 2: I don't care what short of murdering someone, I don't
17:36
Speaker 2: care what comes out after this. Okay, she still has
17:39
Speaker 2: my support, she is still a friend of mine.
17:41
Speaker 1: She did the opposite of that. She saved someone's life.
17:44
Speaker 1: We'll get to that. It's saved in the middle of
17:46
Speaker 1: all of this.
17:48
Speaker 5: Don't ruin. The top five is don't you dare?
17:51
Speaker 2: So?
17:52
Speaker 1: Here we go? Do we have uh? Do we have
17:54
Speaker 1: sound for this?
17:54
Speaker 5: Or we do?
17:55
Speaker 1: Are we?
17:56
Speaker 2: This is a stupid top five list, but it's top
17:59
Speaker 2: five things that have made me laugh. Diana saga, I
18:03
Speaker 2: gotta find it.
18:05
Speaker 1: I have some l ees. Are you ready? O? L
18:08
Speaker 1: I Number one the pictures of me being used on
18:11
Speaker 1: page six. They're terrible, so mad today it's a New
18:17
Speaker 1: York paper. It's your dream?
18:20
Speaker 5: Can I add an O?
18:21
Speaker 1: L I to this go ahead.
18:22
Speaker 4: Sometimes you think sometimes you think like people are reconize.
18:25
Speaker 4: Hey I saw your show that was good, and you think, oh, man,
18:28
Speaker 4: I must be somebody. And then they put a picture
18:31
Speaker 4: on page six where they identified Mike Golick Junior as me.
18:37
Speaker 5: It was such a comeback to earth. That hurts my feelings.
18:45
Speaker 1: But you're right, well that says he's not married yet. Yes,
18:47
Speaker 1: well he's engaged. Congratulations to our friend Mike Golick Junior.
18:50
Speaker 2: An odd place to congratulate Mike Golick Junior on getting married.
18:56
Speaker 1: I thought they gotten the dog.
18:58
Speaker 3: It was just the two of them. Man, they're like
18:59
Speaker 3: are and was like very casually up. I was like, oh, engagement,
19:02
Speaker 3: got it.
19:03
Speaker 1: I called Gojo yesterday to well, listen with my friends.
19:05
Speaker 6: You're always on the phone.
19:06
Speaker 2: When they make big mistakes. I get on the phone
19:09
Speaker 2: with my friends. A text, won't do. I have been
19:11
Speaker 2: talking to Gojo about the downside of marriage for years.
19:14
Speaker 1: I mean, so he called them up and said, you
19:17
Speaker 1: blew it. Congratulations. He didn't listen to a word. Oh congratulations, Gojo.
19:27
Speaker 1: I hearted it. That's funny. Page seven, Oh a, I
19:32
Speaker 1: the playlist. I bet you should never thought that was
19:38
Speaker 1: coming back again.
19:39
Speaker 2: Number five, No, Number five, Jay Glazer throwing his I
19:45
Speaker 2: wasn't finished yet, throwing his annual pool party just days
19:48
Speaker 2: before with all the NFL coaches and not a peep.
19:54
Speaker 1: I celebrated it. I mean, I mean Glazer.
19:59
Speaker 2: Did that days before a pool party, an annual pool
20:03
Speaker 2: party with twenty eight of the thirty two ATFL head
20:06
Speaker 2: coaches that he reports on.
20:07
Speaker 3: We should go back and just sort of change the
20:11
Speaker 3: photos whatever Jay Glazer with any head coach and just
20:14
Speaker 3: like put soft edges to it and maybe put some
20:16
Speaker 3: music to it and see if people will speculate what's
20:18
Speaker 3: happening between Jay and another coach.
20:20
Speaker 1: Number four.
20:22
Speaker 2: In the middle of all this, Diana pulled a man
20:24
Speaker 2: as if he told us already, and a dog from
20:27
Speaker 2: an overturned vehicle that was leaking gasoline?
20:30
Speaker 1: What not? A people.
20:33
Speaker 5: Nobody cared.
20:36
Speaker 1: In today's climate.
20:37
Speaker 3: If you would have told me that was staged, I
20:39
Speaker 3: would say, you know what, I'm gonna give that some thought.
20:41
Speaker 1: It's possible because she's.
20:43
Speaker 3: Somebody staged that to sort of turn the attention away
20:46
Speaker 3: from the other controversy. I'd be like, you know what,
20:48
Speaker 3: it's less more than zero percent chance that happened.
20:53
Speaker 4: Do you think she pulled that man out of the
20:55
Speaker 4: car and instead of saying thank you, we said, is
20:57
Speaker 4: it true?
20:57
Speaker 1: Man? Well, no, I made the joke.
21:01
Speaker 2: Someone had to lift her just so she can get
21:03
Speaker 2: into that car to pull out the man and the dog,
21:05
Speaker 2: and the guy was hesitant to touch her because there's
21:07
Speaker 2: so much smoke around it. I didn't want to save lives.
21:10
Speaker 2: I'm not reporting that. I'm just telling you that's it's
21:14
Speaker 2: a funny take that I came up with. I haven't
21:17
Speaker 2: spoken to her about that. Number three lebits hard spending
21:22
Speaker 2: weeks talking about how we doesn't know how to talk.
21:25
Speaker 1: About this.
21:28
Speaker 6: A tradition unlike any other Oh my god, don't talk
21:30
Speaker 6: about it.
21:36
Speaker 2: It worked out fine just for us clicks download downloads, clicks.
21:40
Speaker 2: I mean, we're all compromised, the entire fucking industry.
21:42
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear from anyone on it.
21:44
Speaker 6: To be fair, we didn't talk about it because every
21:46
Speaker 6: time we were about to talk about it, it felt
21:47
Speaker 6: like something new was coming up. So we finally got
21:50
Speaker 6: to a point this week where there hasn't been any
21:54
Speaker 6: like new updates.
21:55
Speaker 1: We didn't want to get.
21:58
Speaker 2: Taylor really wanted to talk about the in order to
22:01
Speaker 2: talk about the playlist, we had to do this.
22:02
Speaker 1: Okay. Number Two.
22:07
Speaker 2: Credible media outlets going back to my show and picking
22:12
Speaker 2: off clips of me and Diana Hercidi having conversations about
22:15
Speaker 2: her and her marriage.
22:16
Speaker 1: Are you fucking kidding me?
22:20
Speaker 2: Do some research and you'll wonder why people think journalism
22:23
Speaker 2: is dad.
22:25
Speaker 6: My My favorite part from that clip that went viral
22:28
Speaker 6: from the radio row in the Super Bowl is it
22:34
Speaker 6: was the only day I wore a good outfit.
22:38
Speaker 7: Our clips are everywhere.
22:40
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm sitting next to her the whole time.
22:43
Speaker 5: I'm not in the clip. I'm like, no, I'm telling you,
22:45
Speaker 5: that's my sleeve right there.
22:46
Speaker 1: She liked to have Fenn Taylor too. I think no.
22:50
Speaker 1: I think I read something. It was like, how did
22:52
Speaker 1: stuck outs not know.
22:55
Speaker 3: What the amount of clip The times she's been clipped
22:58
Speaker 3: since this has happened, and people are trying to insinuate
23:01
Speaker 3: things and everything that she has said in the.
23:02
Speaker 1: Past, it is laughable. But for her it's got to
23:05
Speaker 1: be maddening.
23:06
Speaker 2: It has to be well, especially when they're clipping her
23:08
Speaker 2: from my show. Number One, Craig Carton.
23:16
Speaker 3: I'm going to say this not to be insulting whatsoever? Right,
23:19
Speaker 3: one hundred percent honesty. I have no idea what you're
23:22
Speaker 3: talking about.
23:23
Speaker 1: Freg Carton has been gasbaging. And let me tell you.
23:28
Speaker 2: In the long list of sports media members that I
23:30
Speaker 2: want to hear from on Diana Rossini and what this
23:33
Speaker 2: has done to women and females in journalism and how
23:36
Speaker 2: it set it back so many decades and years.
23:39
Speaker 1: The person I want to hear from last is Craig
23:41
Speaker 1: cark Is that what he did? Yes.
23:43
Speaker 2: The person I want to hear from last is a
23:44
Speaker 2: guy who, essentially, while he was working at WFAN, was
23:48
Speaker 2: convicted of a Ponzi scheme. While working at WFAN, is
23:52
Speaker 2: a felon, went to prison and lived such a charmed
23:55
Speaker 2: life that when he got out of prison, he got
23:57
Speaker 2: his job back and lived such a charm life that
24:00
Speaker 2: when he left that job and failed on National TV,
24:03
Speaker 2: he got the job back again. I don't want to
24:05
Speaker 2: hear from Craig Carton on anyone in sports media.
24:08
Speaker 1: Just sit there.
24:09
Speaker 2: Fire a Mets manager, fire a Yankees manager, get rid
24:13
Speaker 2: of the Giants coach, don't talk about anyone else in
24:15
Speaker 2: sports media. Just be happy you're still a member of
24:19
Speaker 2: the sports media.
24:20
Speaker 1: Don't.
24:20
Speaker 3: I'm with you here, don't talk about how Diana might
24:23
Speaker 3: have set women journalists back when and this is really
24:27
Speaker 3: hard to do do, yes, he said, male journalists back.
24:31
Speaker 1: That is very hard to do.
24:33
Speaker 2: Okay, how about Rabel setting back the stereotype of meat
24:36
Speaker 2: had NFL coaches who are sleeping around with everyone Mo,
24:39
Speaker 2: they're married.
24:40
Speaker 1: Bro, that's a whole nother story.
24:42
Speaker 3: I mean in terms of like in the public eye,
24:46
Speaker 3: how you know they're going to deal with this situation.
24:49
Speaker 3: I just don't know how he's going to constantly be
24:51
Speaker 3: in front of a microphone and still have to face people,
24:54
Speaker 3: because you know, I mean, New England might be almost
24:56
Speaker 3: as bad as as New York these days when it
24:58
Speaker 3: comes to covering football. They're going to get their questions
25:00
Speaker 3: in and I don't know how much longer he's going
25:02
Speaker 3: to be able to handle it.
25:03
Speaker 6: The problem is, I don't think people really care about
25:07
Speaker 6: what Vrabel did from from that perspective in terms of
25:09
Speaker 6: his own fan base. Like he was at a season
25:12
Speaker 6: ticket holder season ticket holder event and they gave him
25:16
Speaker 6: a standing ovation and they were talking to Drake May.
25:18
Speaker 1: About setting men back. Jesus, there was a quote.
25:21
Speaker 6: From Drake May it's there was a quote from Drake
25:24
Speaker 6: May where Drake May was like, I don't want to
25:26
Speaker 6: quote it exactly, but the gist of it was like,
25:28
Speaker 6: this is our coach. We understand he's going through a
25:30
Speaker 6: tough time right now, but we have his back. We
25:33
Speaker 6: we've got his support. Where it's like you didn't you
25:35
Speaker 6: didn't have a family member.
25:36
Speaker 1: Die, which one.
25:39
Speaker 3: And Drake is is a guy who's been married young, right,
25:41
Speaker 3: Like he clearly values the institution of marriage as do I,
25:47
Speaker 3: and so that's what people just like, oh no, but
25:49
Speaker 3: my coach is more important than the institution of marriage.
25:51
Speaker 3: It's just like, now if I was his wife, I'd
25:53
Speaker 3: be like, you know, I don't know if you really
25:54
Speaker 3: should show public support right now.
25:56
Speaker 5: Guys, we were in the Super Bowl last year.
26:00
Speaker 1: Who Caresoiredo gets fired?
26:04
Speaker 2: There is that element though, that the reporter is being
26:08
Speaker 2: reported on, right, and so she's getting way more of
26:10
Speaker 2: the strapnel than like vrabel is he's getting that a boy,
26:13
Speaker 2: she's getting fired.
26:15
Speaker 1: Well, I mean that's just the sexism of the world. Yeah,
26:17
Speaker 1: that's where it is.
26:18
Speaker 2: But Craig Carton from that radio station, a station by
26:21
Speaker 2: the way, which has had I think one full time
26:24
Speaker 2: female host in its entire history, and she was fired
26:26
Speaker 2: after a bad rating book. I believe it was Maggie
26:29
Speaker 2: Great Craig, how many women have you employed on your.
26:32
Speaker 1: Radio shows over the years, just out of curiosity, I
26:35
Speaker 1: would say more. I'm just not very well I'll tell
26:37
Speaker 1: you the answer. The answer is not. I think I'm
26:40
Speaker 1: not very well informed. On a New York radio market, I.
26:42
Speaker 6: Think they've had one female guest the past month, and
26:45
Speaker 6: it was Huktua.
26:49
Speaker 1: To talk about Diana probably all of a.
26:53
Speaker 7: Sudden, cares objectifies woman. Basically, his entire career makes fun
27:00
Speaker 7: Susan Waldman, and all of a sudden, Diana Riscidi has
27:03
Speaker 7: set women's journalism back decades.
27:06
Speaker 1: This shouldn't be about Cardon, It shouldn't be about Jay Glazer.
27:09
Speaker 1: Inciate your chestings and that's a great job. Listen.
27:11
Speaker 2: I don't criticize Glazer for having the pool party. I'm
27:14
Speaker 2: just making the point that when you question credibility, all
27:18
Speaker 2: our credibility has been compromised. Is he doesn't want you?
27:21
Speaker 2: Do you agree with that? In sports media, just about
27:24
Speaker 2: everyone's credibility has been compromised, right at different levels. But yeah,
27:28
Speaker 2: I mean Steven I Smith, I love you. You had
27:30
Speaker 2: to adapt to a changing sports media landscape where it
27:34
Speaker 2: became less about the reporting and more about entertaining. Right, So,
27:37
Speaker 2: when you wear a Cowboys hat on the first take
27:39
Speaker 2: with a cigar and strolling to Dallas compromised. Okay, I
27:43
Speaker 2: mean when Michael Wilbon is wearing a Cubs jersey while
27:45
Speaker 2: covering the Cubs for ESPN, compromise. What Jay Glazer is
27:50
Speaker 2: throwing a pool party for twenty eight of the thirty
27:53
Speaker 2: two coaches that he reports on, compromised.
27:56
Speaker 3: The craziest thing is like where everybody's just a't so salacious.
28:00
Speaker 3: It's such a controversy. It's just because it's in the
28:02
Speaker 3: industry or the business that you are currently interested in, right,
28:05
Speaker 3: because these things happen in other industries all the time.
28:09
Speaker 3: Important people, whether they are on the same side, whether
28:12
Speaker 3: they're on different sides, have personal relationships and stuff happens.
28:16
Speaker 3: They make TV shows about that stuff. It's interesting when
28:19
Speaker 3: you get in the dirt. But this just happens to
28:21
Speaker 3: be one of many, and it's just like, hey, I
28:24
Speaker 3: want to know so many details.
28:25
Speaker 1: I think we kind of know.
28:26
Speaker 3: What it looks like, yes, right, Like We've seen this
28:29
Speaker 3: happen with other people on television, whether it be real
28:31
Speaker 3: or fake, reality TV show or fictional TV.
28:34
Speaker 1: What this looks like. We don't need to.
28:35
Speaker 3: Sort of sit there and just basket it and be like,
28:38
Speaker 3: I want to see more, I want to know the details.
28:40
Speaker 1: I want to see tears. We don't have to see that, right,
28:42
Speaker 1: She's feeling it, just so you know, I mean, that's
28:44
Speaker 1: all I'm going to tell you.
28:45
Speaker 2: The person I used to talk to is not the
28:47
Speaker 2: person I'm talking to now, and hopefully she'll get back
28:49
Speaker 2: to being the person I used to talk to. But
28:51
Speaker 2: she's feeling it, and she deserves it, and she knows
28:53
Speaker 2: that the optics on this are bad. She realizes why
28:56
Speaker 2: people are so interested in this particular story. It is
29:00
Speaker 2: confusing and confounding to me and really frustrating as the
29:03
Speaker 2: father of two daughters to hear all of the coverage
29:07
Speaker 2: be about Diana Rossini and none of it be about
29:09
Speaker 2: what Mike Rabel did wrong. And I am not defending her.
29:13
Speaker 2: There is no defense for what it is. At the
29:16
Speaker 2: very least, if this all it is, it's just pictures.
29:19
Speaker 2: The optics of those pictures for a journalist, for a reporter.
29:23
Speaker 2: For someone who reports on the NFL, they are bad
29:25
Speaker 2: optics and you have to be better and you have
29:27
Speaker 2: to be careful. But I'm not going to dig into
29:29
Speaker 2: her personal life. Those are her decisions. It's her private
29:32
Speaker 2: life she can tell and listen. We all make mistakes,
29:35
Speaker 2: we all have her shit, okay, every single.
29:38
Speaker 1: One of us.
29:39
Speaker 2: But I will tell you I will continue to be
29:41
Speaker 2: there for Diana as a friend, as someone who's going
29:44
Speaker 2: to listen to her, and I will be there for
29:46
Speaker 2: her if and when she decides she wants to come
29:49
Speaker 2: back to work, because I will not leave her alone
29:51
Speaker 2: during the most difficult time in her life.
29:52
Speaker 1: She didn't do that to me. I won't do it
29:54
Speaker 1: to her. I wouldn't do it to any friend.
29:56
Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to dig into the personal life of
29:58
Speaker 3: Mike Rabel for a second. To go ahead, because you
30:00
Speaker 3: mentioned pictures. Yeah, did you see the picture of him
30:03
Speaker 3: shopping at an airport Yes? No, no, no, no, I don't
30:08
Speaker 3: care who you are in my life. Never buy me
30:10
Speaker 3: something from an airport shop.
30:12
Speaker 1: Never. Never.
30:13
Speaker 3: I would rather just have a hug, so that never
30:16
Speaker 3: buy me anything. That's a standing rule.
30:17
Speaker 1: That was on his way to rehab for for day
30:20
Speaker 1: three of the draft. Believe it doesn't matter who the gifts.
30:23
Speaker 2: So though he was going to give for his wife,
30:24
Speaker 2: and I would say, right, his wife, and his poor wife.
30:26
Speaker 2: By the way, of course, I mean she's going through
30:28
Speaker 2: it as well. But I would divorce Mic just based
30:30
Speaker 2: on that picture, not the other ones.
30:31
Speaker 3: That picture, I don't care if it's my anniversary, I
30:33
Speaker 3: don't care if it's a positive thing. Do not go
30:36
Speaker 3: into an airport gift shopping.
30:38
Speaker 1: Buy me something you're.
30:39
Speaker 2: So sorry that you stopped on your way to gate
30:41
Speaker 2: thirty two to get me a gift.
30:44
Speaker 5: At the Hudson News.
30:46
Speaker 1: I love the Hudson News.
30:48
Speaker 3: Unless the gift is du Got's booked dot.
30:52
Speaker 2: So Diana again just to recap disappointed. She gets it,
30:56
Speaker 2: I get it. There's nothing else I can. She doesn't
30:58
Speaker 2: want to hear from me, she doesn't want to hear
31:00
Speaker 2: from you, she doesn't want to hear from Christ.
31:02
Speaker 1: She knows I love you, I'm here for you, this
31:07
Speaker 1: show is here for you.
31:09
Speaker 2: And if she decides to come back and work again,
31:11
Speaker 2: she'll have a spot, like I said earlier, right next
31:13
Speaker 2: to me in Israel.