613: Preserving Companies and Design with Andy Budd

Giant Robots Smashing Into Other Giant Robots · Jun 11, 2026 · 56m

Chad talks with guest Andy Budd, Design Leadership Coach & Venture Partner at Seedcamp, as they look back over Andy’s time at Clearleft, the company he co-founded back in 2005.

Andy discusses employee trust ownership, how it both benefits and protects your employees, and has the potential to keep your business going for generations to come rather than living and dying by the founders interest. Chad also announces that thoughtbot is moving into a Purpose Trust model.

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