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49ers Survive Commanders on Monday Night Football, Colts Fire GM Chris Ballard, Eagles PR Problems & Rams in Trouble · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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  Speaker 1: The Volume. What is going on, my people? How are
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  Speaker 1: we doing? John Middlecoff, 3NOW Podcast. The 49ers somehow, by
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  Speaker 1: the skin of their teeth, pull out a crazy victory.
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  Speaker 1: And don't implode in the second half to Jaden Daniels,
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  Speaker 1: Dan Quinn. And I wouldn't say the most buttoned up
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  Speaker 1: situational football team, but hey, they got rolling there for
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  Speaker 1: a little bit in the second half and it did
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  Speaker 1: become a pretty entertaining game. I definitely got a comment
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  Speaker 1: on the Trey Hickman intro with Joe Buck. Bunch of
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  Speaker 1: other stuff going on. Chris Ballard, the Colts, fired. Peyton
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  Speaker 1: Manning take the job. Dan Patrick said they're going to
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  Speaker 1: go after him. Jaden, not Jaden Daniels, Jalen Hurts. Crazy story.
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  Speaker 1: We'll do some mailbag questions. At John Middlecoff, at John Middlecoff,
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  Speaker 1: the Rams. I think half their team went on injured
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  Speaker 1: reserve today. Absolute disaster in Los Angeles. Currently four games
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  Speaker 1: back of the 49ers. Other than that, you guys know
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  Speaker 1: the drill. Subscribe. If you listen on Colin's feed, you
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  Speaker 1: can watch us on Netflix. We put a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: content on YouTube as well. And let's just dive into
• 1:24
  Speaker 1: Monday Night Football. Not going to lie, it was starting
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  Speaker 1: to cross my mind when Jaden was driving late in
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  Speaker 1: the game. 49ers are going to lose this thing. They're
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  Speaker 1: going to lose 24-23. But after completely dominating the first half, 20-3.
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  Speaker 1: And a moment goes viral for the commanders of Dan
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  Speaker 1: Quinn and clearly Jaden Daniels, who we'll get into a
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  Speaker 1: little later, are probably going to need to spend some
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  Speaker 1: time during the bye week on situational football, knowing when
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  Speaker 1: it's fourth down, not third down. It just felt they
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  Speaker 1: were imploding. The Niners were rolling. And honestly, it all
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  Speaker 1: kind of flipped. When Mike Evans, injured as Achilles, went
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  Speaker 1: in early, the 49ers after that, and by all, I'm
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  Speaker 1: recording this right after the game, reports are that Achilles
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  Speaker 1: is still intact, which it was pretty clear the way
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  Speaker 1: he was able to walk. I don't think he tore
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  Speaker 1: his Achilles. Even Kobe, when he tore it, he could
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  Speaker 1: barely walk. The thing's sore, not ideal. I would imagine
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  Speaker 1: they give him this week off playing Atlanta 6-0. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you can just take a deep breath. The Rams and
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  Speaker 1: Seattle have a combined seven losses. You have a four-game
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  Speaker 1: lead right now on the Rams and a three-game lead
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  Speaker 1: on Seattle. And they both come to you. I think
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  Speaker 1: you just can take a complete deep breath and give
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  Speaker 1: him essentially two weeks off. Just let him rest that.
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  Speaker 1: He's a war daddy. Nothing but respect. I'm thinking tonight,
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  Speaker 1: I've been watching the 49ers closely since I was a
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  Speaker 1: kid in the early 90s. If you have to go
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  Speaker 1: best free agent signings, they've had a lot of great acquisitions.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of them have been through the draft. Steve
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  Speaker 1: Young was a trade. Trent Williams was a trade. Christian
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  Speaker 1: McCaffrey was a trade. Obviously, a ton of draft picks.
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  Speaker 1: I would say Deion Sanders, Justin Smith. Mike Evans only
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  Speaker 1: played six games, but holy shit, he's an unstoppable force.
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  Speaker 1: He goes out. They can't muster anything in the second half.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be negative because you're 6-0. You're
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  Speaker 1: one of the handful of the Chiefs and the Minnesota Vikings. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: the Vikings coming off a bye week who have not
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  Speaker 1: lost a game. There is not a soul... For any
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  Speaker 1: team that when the season starts, you'd go, hey, first
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  Speaker 1: six games, would you sign up for 6-0? Everyone would. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: the 49ers have lost some bodies. Their quarterback up until
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  Speaker 1: the first half tonight was playing great. I think Kyle
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  Speaker 1: had a really, really rough second half. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what was going on with a guy who is very
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  Speaker 1: pro-running the football and After the second half starts, Washington
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  Speaker 1: goes four plays and they punt. The 49ers get the
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  Speaker 1: ball back up 20-3. 11 plays, 65 yards, 6 minutes,
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  Speaker 1: kick a field goal. 23-3, which at that point in time,
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  Speaker 1: Jaden had not played well. They were in complete control
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  Speaker 1: of the game. You're like... Just milk some clock, run
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  Speaker 1: the ball. They were having success with McCaffrey, who I
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  Speaker 1: know had fumbled. Sometimes on that punch from behind, obviously
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  Speaker 1: Fred does it a lot. They get paid a lot
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  Speaker 1: of money too. It was a great play. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if that spooked them. I don't know what happened.
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  Speaker 1: But then the 49ers are up 23-3. Washington goes on
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  Speaker 1: a fantastic drive. Jaden kind of settles down, scores 23-10.
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  Speaker 1: The next two drives, the 49ers run six pass plays.
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  Speaker 1: Three and out, boom, Washington scores 23-17. Three pass plays, boom,
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  Speaker 1: Washington's driving, which, listen. You know, we can debate. Should
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  Speaker 1: they have kicked a field goal? They still had the
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  Speaker 1: three timeouts. And then kick it off and try to
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  Speaker 1: get a stop. The 49ers had done nothing. I understand
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  Speaker 1: you're playing Shanahan and an MVP level quarterback. Despite them
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  Speaker 1: having a couple weird series going for it. They get
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  Speaker 1: bailed out by a PI. or a defensive holding, which
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  Speaker 1: was pretty ticky-tack. Now, I understand if you're a Washington fan,
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  Speaker 1: you go, Fred Warner's going helmet-to-helmet every single play. I go, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he plays by 90s rules. I'm not as bothered by helmet-to-helmets.
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  Speaker 1: They don't bother me as much. I don't get bothered
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  Speaker 1: by non-PI calls on third and fourth downs. It is
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  Speaker 1: an epidemic currently in the NFL. We read the stats
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  Speaker 1: a couple weeks ago by Warren Sharp. It's shattering records.
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  Speaker 1: The amount of third and fourth down, first down calls,
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  Speaker 1: even the night. They mentioned after that play that it
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  Speaker 1: had happened four times on third or fourth down to
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  Speaker 1: the Commanders against the Niners. Some of them I get.
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  Speaker 1: It's just blatant. Other times, you've got to let them
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  Speaker 1: play defense. But then it looked like he hit Traylon
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  Speaker 1: Burks in the corner. Great play by Malik Mustafa, who
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  Speaker 1: had an incredible game. One thing the 49ers breed... is
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  Speaker 1: there is a violence to the way they play. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: their core guys, you know, Kittle, obviously the way McCaffrey,
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  Speaker 1: Trent Williams, Fred Warner. But if you are drafted there,
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  Speaker 1: there is an expectation of a way to play. Kalon Black, boom,
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  Speaker 1: from Indiana. Lower your shoulder, hit the hole, even Aikman tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Got in a good mood as the game went on.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I love this guy. Because if you
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  Speaker 1: watch football and you watch him run the ball, you're like,
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  Speaker 1: that's my type player. Hand him the ball, hit the
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  Speaker 1: hole and get downhill. Which again, baffled me by why Kyle,
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  Speaker 1: who the first thing you think about with him is
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  Speaker 1: running the football, really got away from it. And you
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  Speaker 1: would have think like Purdy would look at him like, hey, coach,
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  Speaker 1: you want to call a run? And who knows? Their
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  Speaker 1: game plan against this team, weak corners. But with Mike
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  Speaker 1: Evans out, you got some random wide receivers. Kittle had
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  Speaker 1: gotten rolled up with his ankle earlier. It's like, hey, man,
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  Speaker 1: if we're going to go three and out, just run
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  Speaker 1: the ball three times. I bet we might gain a
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  Speaker 1: first down, burn some clock and just settle this thing down.
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  Speaker 1: But the game completely flipped. It got weird. And Jayden
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  Speaker 1: Daniels really heated up. And they got extremely, even to me, Kyle,
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  Speaker 1: at the last possession they had when they punted after
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  Speaker 1: going three and out. It was a tough spot because
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  Speaker 1: they had the two timeouts after burning the one when
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  Speaker 1: the clock was stopped. Is they took a delay a
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  Speaker 1: game on the punt. And there was a minute left.
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  Speaker 1: You have three timeouts. Like, I don't think anyone's going
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  Speaker 1: to kill you if you burn one there. Like, just
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  Speaker 1: call a timeout. Give a free delay of game. Move
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  Speaker 1: back five yards in that spot. What if the fucking
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  Speaker 1: guy shanks it or something? Like, every yard's pretty precious
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  Speaker 1: at this point, especially kicking back to a team that
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  Speaker 1: doesn't have any timeouts. I was bad. I don't know if...
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  Speaker 1: Dan Quinn, through osmosis, just being across a 53-yard gap
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  Speaker 1: between him and Kyle, if he just gave him some
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  Speaker 1: of the superpowers of game management and game philosophy, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what happened. But hey, a win's a win.
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  Speaker 1: The 49ers survived. Extremely ugly. Obviously, I would say their
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  Speaker 1: most bizarre half of the football. And I think what
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  Speaker 1: was so bizarre about it is how dominant they were
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  Speaker 1: in the first half. I mean, 20-3, it would have
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  Speaker 1: been more if McCaffrey doesn't fumble. They were driving right
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  Speaker 1: down the field. They were dominating that game. Their defense
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  Speaker 1: was not giving them an inch. They had nowhere to go.
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  Speaker 1: And obviously, the Terry McLaurin injury is pretty devastating. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they brought up that air cast immediately, which is just terrible.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that guy's a badass. He's been one of
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  Speaker 1: their best players for almost a decade now. one of
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  Speaker 1: the more respected guys in the league. Half the 49ers
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  Speaker 1: went over to him when he was getting in the cart.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not holding the commanders. They've had a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: injuries already, losing their left tackle before the season even started,
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  Speaker 1: but once that second half and the 49ers really sputtered,
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  Speaker 1: I thought Jaden Daniels Really looked good. I mean, he
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  Speaker 1: was sitting in that pocket, delivering strikes. He was excellent.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, at one point in time, late in the
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  Speaker 1: fourth quarter, he was 15-17 in the second half. Just
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  Speaker 1: delivering touchdowns, delivering strikes. Honestly, his couple misses, they could
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  Speaker 1: have been big plays as well. I thought he was
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  Speaker 1: mostly brilliant. Now, he is going to, with his coach,
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  Speaker 1: you know, that's the thing with Kyle. It's like that
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  Speaker 1: delay of game. When you win the game and you're 6-0,
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  Speaker 1: no one cares.
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 1: That's the thing. You'll get asked about it. He'll probably
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  Speaker 1: be a little edgy about it. He'll be kicking himself,
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  Speaker 1: but it'll be forgotten about in a day. But the
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  Speaker 1: Dan Quinn moments, when the negativity and the things are
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  Speaker 1: going wrong, it's going to be hard to ever forget
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  Speaker 1: that him on the sideline in the first half thinking
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  Speaker 1: it's third down and calling for the field goal, which...
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  Speaker 1: It's hard to know exactly, and we'll see what Jaden says.
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  Speaker 1: By the time most of you are listening or watching this,
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  Speaker 1: you will have known what he said. Did he think
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  Speaker 1: it was third down as well? Are they communicating that
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  Speaker 1: it's third down? Is the offensive coordinator, who's young, feels
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  Speaker 1: a little maybe over his head with everything going on?
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  Speaker 1: Do they just not know basic situational football? Because it
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: is pretty hard to function when you don't know that.
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  Speaker 1: I do give some grace in certain situations. Like late
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  Speaker 1: in the game, when the clock is stopped. It was,
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  Speaker 1: I think, 4th and 8. It was the play the
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  Speaker 1: Niners ended up getting the penalty on. It was 4th
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  Speaker 1: and 8. Well, they call the timeout when the clock
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  Speaker 1: is stopped after an incompletion. Well, they had two timeouts,
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  Speaker 1: and they had the two-minute warning. So I give them
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of grace. And if you're going to
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  Speaker 1: go for it on fourth and eight and choose not
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  Speaker 1: to kick the field goal, that is an extremely important play.
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  Speaker 1: And whether you're rushed to the line, whether you don't
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  Speaker 1: see anything, that's one of those that's like, okay, you
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  Speaker 1: can live with big picture if all these other things
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  Speaker 1: don't happen. Like at the end of the game when–
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: The 49ers were clearly doing a really good job of
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  Speaker 1: doing the classic, I think they call it a muddle rush,
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  Speaker 1: where they rush up the field a couple yards. They
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  Speaker 1: didn't want Jaden to just run around and throw the ball.
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  Speaker 1: In the second half, he was able to do that
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  Speaker 1: a little bit, especially on some play-action plays when you
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  Speaker 1: get him out moving because he's accurate on the move,
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  Speaker 1: and he can just gain a lot of ground away
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  Speaker 1: from your defenders running because he's such an elite athlete.
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  Speaker 1: So they kind of kept him in the pocket, and
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  Speaker 1: for a lot of it, he was shredding them. Right?
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  Speaker 1: He's a good pocket quarterback. But it felt like he's
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  Speaker 1: in between sometimes. Like, should I take off? Should I
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  Speaker 1: hold the ball? And late in the game, when you
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: don't have any timeouts, and everyone's running vertical on the...
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: on the play that he got flagged for, it's like, listen,
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  Speaker 1: he starts getting, he's fucked. He doesn't have any momentum
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  Speaker 1: to set his feet to even get the ball, you know,
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  Speaker 1: past the line of scrimmage, out of bounds. It was
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  Speaker 1: just a tough spot. But those are the tight moments
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  Speaker 1: when everything else has kind of snowballed the avalanche down
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  Speaker 1: the hill of the situational football, the situational football. My
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  Speaker 1: overall take is like, I'm going to give the Niners
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of pass in the second half. Had
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  Speaker 1: a shitty half. They played six games. For the majority
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  Speaker 1: of them, they have dominated. It's like, okay, if you
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  Speaker 1: say you're through close to the middle end of October
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  Speaker 1: and you've had one poor half of football and it
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  Speaker 1: didn't cost you the game, big picture, who cares? I
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  Speaker 1: do think when you look at the commanders, and this
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  Speaker 1: gets back, and it starts with the head coach. Honestly,
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  Speaker 1: even that third down, fourth down play where Dan Quinn
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  Speaker 1: and Jaden, they throw it out of bounds. Jaden comes
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  Speaker 1: right to the sideline, and he's smiling again. Dan Quinn survived.
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  Speaker 1: There were some rumors that if they had gotten blown out,
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  Speaker 1: would he lose his job this week? And when it
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  Speaker 1: was 20-3, you're like, if this thing ends like, 40
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  Speaker 1: to 10 it'll be hard to like really slow down
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  Speaker 1: everyone calling for your gig but after that game like
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  Speaker 1: they played their ass off they did well it's pretty
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  Speaker 1: clear like Dan's just too nice. And you kind of
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  Speaker 1: feel it with the Jaden situation. You know, there has
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  Speaker 1: to be some sort of accountability. And this is, as
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  Speaker 1: a wise man once said, the standard is the standard.
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  Speaker 1: And Mike Tomlin's a free agent. I'm going to keep
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: pointing that connection. He played college football there. And listen,
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  Speaker 1: I've been saying over and over, if you just watch him,
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  Speaker 1: there's no guarantee that he's going to come back. He's
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  Speaker 1: making a ton of money. He looks happy. He's probably
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: playing the shit out of Minecraft. But their owner, he
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: sits next to Bob Myers. Bob Myers during the games.
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: Bob Myers was the guy that hired Steve Kerr. Bob
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  Speaker 1: Myers was an agent hiring big-time players. Bob Myers is
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  Speaker 1: the type of guy that is going to think big.
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  Speaker 1: Bob Myers is one of the leading guys that helped
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  Speaker 1: land Kevin Durant. So if this Dan Quinn thing continues
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  Speaker 1: to not work out, and I don't see how it's
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  Speaker 1: going to change, they're 1-4-1. with some promise, right? I mean,
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: Sonny Styles needs some work on in the passing game, right?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they didn't hit him on a kiddle play.
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  Speaker 1: It's like he just gets lost in space. But if
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  Speaker 1: it's coming downhill, if it's tackling, if it's going sideline
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  Speaker 1: to sideline, I'm with Troy Aikman on that one. I'm
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  Speaker 1: a big fan. Like, I do think if you can really,
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: and can his instincts ever get to like the Fred level?
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  Speaker 1: But there are questions about Fred coming out. Fred Warner,
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: what he is now, just cracking skulls every play. And again,
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  Speaker 1: I enjoy that. I miss 90s football violence. I am
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  Speaker 1: never going to apologize for it. I'm not going to cry,
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  Speaker 1: and I wouldn't have cried if it was reversed, if
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  Speaker 1: Sonny Styles was doing that. It doesn't bother me as much.
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  Speaker 1: I have a much bigger issue with the grabbing and
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  Speaker 1: the holding and the penalties constantly in the passing game.
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  Speaker 1: The violence of hitting, I'm all for. I want that
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  Speaker 1: to return. I've said over and over, quarterbacks now get
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: bailed out without hospital balls. They can just throw it wherever.
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  Speaker 1: The game has been dumbed down so much. So it's
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  Speaker 1: not going to bother me that much, and I love
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: the violence in which Sonny Siles plays. Now, if his
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  Speaker 1: instincts ever get to the level, you know, of the Freds,
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  Speaker 1: of the Luke Keekleys, he can be a dominant, dominant player. So,
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: you know, Washington has a quarterback. They've got a star
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  Speaker 1: piece to deal with on defense, but this is going
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  Speaker 1: to need a lot of work. And, you know, they're
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: two of their best players. One just went off in
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: an air cast, and the other's missing the season with,
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: what is it, torn triceps or whatever happened during training camp. But,
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  Speaker 1: you know, this is where there are no moral victories
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  Speaker 1: in football. And this is where last week, you know,
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  Speaker 1: losing like that, this wouldn't hurt as much. Like if
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  Speaker 1: they had come into this game, instead of being 1-4-1,
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  Speaker 1: they would be 2-3. And you'd be like, you know what? One,
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  Speaker 1: they'd be very much alive, right? Very much alive in
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: the division. But it feels like a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: a letdown. You know, we got oh so close. And
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  Speaker 1: if anyone goes, ah, the Niners just played like shit,
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: which they kind of did, especially in the second half.
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  Speaker 1: And the defense really just pooped out. Went from a
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: couple notes I wrote down is the first half had
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  Speaker 1: a little preseason vibe. It was like kind of had
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: a varsity versus JV. Just like, God, this is pretty bad.
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  Speaker 1: And I give the Commanders credit. They made it a
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: very entertaining game. And I know every 49er fan was
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: on the edge of their seat. I'm getting texts from
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: people at the game. My wife's pacing around the house.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: It's like, this is way too weird. I'm like, yeah. Honestly,
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  Speaker 1: I thought they were going to score. I kind of
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: thought at one point on the second to last drive
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  Speaker 1: when Jaden had the ball driving that they were going
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  Speaker 1: to win 24 to 23. And it'd just be one
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: of those like, Kyle, what the hell? Did you just
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: have an all-time mental brain fart? I think the one
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: knock sometimes with Kyle is he spends so much time
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: You see it on his face. He doesn't sleep. This
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: guy's just game planning day after day after day. I've
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: heard him in an interview maybe a year ago. By Friday,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: usually in the NFL is a lighter day. You're home
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: by 2 or 3 in the afternoon. He says, I
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: just get home, walk right to the bed, and I
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: immediately take a nap. I get back up at 5
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: or 6 because I'm just so exhausted. And I think he's,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: my game plan is so correct. It's going to work.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: And their game plan tonight was throw it. Because we
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: can throw it on these wide receivers. The running game
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: was working, but we can take advantage of these wide receivers.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: But you had a big lead. Just take advantage of
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: the run. Just call some run plays. I don't know
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: if he's, he's definitely not trying to run up the
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: score against his buddy Dan. I just don't know what happened. Now,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: there were less possessions the way it played out, but bizarre.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Other than that, God, Malik Mustafa had a great back-to-back place.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, that tackle in the hole and then that
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: play on Traylon Burks who clearly got, I don't know
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: what he hurt, but that could not have felt good
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: falling that high on the ground. He almost made catch
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: of the night. I mean, that was just an incredible effort.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Just a great football play by both guys. To go
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: high point the ball, Mustafa to keep his hand in
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: there and play on the ball and ultimately let his
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: hand in the ground kind of caused the incompletion. probably
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: saved them. I mean, because if they catch that, who knows?
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think we're having a very, very different
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: story right now. One thing, Fred plays by the mid-90s rules.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: I have said that before. I'll say it again. It's
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: just refreshing. We just don't have enough violent football players anymore.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: And that's the 49ers' point of difference. If you're going
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: to play for their defense, and Raheem Morris is another guy,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of credit. When they lost Robert Sala
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: after the success he had with all the backups, it's
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: just really hard to replace. I mean, look at Dan Quinn.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: He's just going through coordinators, doesn't know what to do.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Kyle loses Sala, who has been extremely successful for him twice,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: and just replaces him with another buddy, Raheem Morris, who's
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: probably been better, definitely in terms of diversity of what
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: they do. You know, Robert Sala just, you kind of
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: knew what you were getting, Mo. weeks, but his guys
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: played hard and very, like, everyone knew exactly what they
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: were supposed to do. Raheem Morris is bringing guys from
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: all over the place, standing guys up, moving guys around.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Their defensive line, listen, I understand it wasn't a scheme fit.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Think about this. The 49ers' best interior pass rusher by
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: a mile is Osa Adigazua. And the reason they got
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: him is the Cowboys last year gave him a three-year
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: $ 60 million contract. Maybe it was four years $ 80 million,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: guaranteed $ 40 million. He got a contract extension because he
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: earned it. He generates a ton of pressure as a
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: defensive tackle. Great one-gap interior pass pressure. Christian Parker is like,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: doesn't fit my defense, which there's probably some truth to that.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: He's a 4-3 defensive lineman, not a 3-4 guy. But
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: I'm a Cowboy fan. It's like, did we need to
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: change around our defense to get rid of our good
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: pass rushers for fucking this guy? And the 49ers are like, yeah,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: we'll give you a third for a guy already under
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: contract making $ 20 million a year. If your guy hit
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: free agency, make more than that. Like, that's one of
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: those that you can take advantage of teams like the
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. The 49ers have taken advantage of the Cowboys
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: multiple times in trades. They traded Trey Lance for a
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: fourth round pick. He could never win the backup job there.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: And they get Osa for a third. I probably would
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: have given up a second for that guy. He's been fantastic.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: So 49ers, like I said, move to 6-0. Commanders, 1-4-1.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: I think when you suck, that tie feels worse on
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: the record. If you're going to end up with 9
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: or 10 wins... and you end up making the playoffs
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: like it was the Packers last year or a couple
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: years ago, it's not as bad. It actually feels kind
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: of good. Sometimes it actually is a big difference maker
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: late in the season because you have the same amount
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: of wins as another team, but they got two losses,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: you have a tie. So you get the seventh seed,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: they get the eighth seed or whatever. When you end
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: up with like three or four wins and that tie
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: is also there, It feels worse. I think I'd just
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: rather have the loss, you know, than just see that.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: It's like, God, anytime you have that third dash or,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: you know, that third number with the second dash, I
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: think it's just a rough look when you don't have
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: many wins. The other thing, the last thing on this
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: game is typically during Monday Night Football, you know, I
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: don't have the volume that loud. Usually by halftime, we're
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: putting them to bed. We eat in the first half.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Not that I'm not listening, but it's not like blaring
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: in the house. Tonight, I had that thing loud. And
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: I was sitting there at 5 o'clock. And I would
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: say most Mondays, depending on my schedule, sometimes I'm finishing
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: the second half of the podcast before Monday Night Football game.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: So I usually go in and turn the TV on
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: about 5, 10, 5, 12, like 5 to 3 minutes
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: right before the game starts. I never watch Joe and
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Troy play. Kind of open up. I did tonight. I'm like,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: I ain't missing this thing. And I'm sitting there, and
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: they go to those two guys. And I'm sure many
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: of you have seen it. One thing I do respect
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: about Troy Aikman is clearly a very prideful, legendary football guy.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. Extremely successful and wealthy. If he lost
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: this gig tomorrow and didn't get another penny for broadcasting
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: the rest of his life, he wouldn't notice. Like, he
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: ain't struggling... To pay the mortgages, even if he might
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: not even have one. He might be paying cash for homes.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: He's good, right? But, like, I'm not going to pretend.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to cause a scene. But I'm also
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: not going to pretend everything's just hunky-dory. And they go
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: to him. And Joe is just in full form like
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: a normal broadcaster. And you can tell Troy was pissed.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: And Troy couldn't fake it. And I appreciate guys who
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: can stay professional. Because he was. Once the game starts,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: you're not looking at him. It sounded very professional. I
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: kind of wish ESPN would have had a little cam
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: in the corner. Just a booth cam. I would love
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: to see their body language. Because after the initial opening,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: you're like, God damn, Troy's fucking pissed. He couldn't even
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: fake it. Then I come, maybe it was, I kind
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: of told Maria what was going on. She's like, oh yeah,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: I saw Joe Buck. She's really into Dancing with the
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Stars this season. She's like, oh, Joe was a guest
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: judge on Dancing with the Stars. And it's like the
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: one thing with this media world, once you start making
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: huge money, it's like, yeah, ESPN has a million shows.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Disney has a million shows. ABC has a million shows.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Like Joe's saying, yeah. Because not that long ago, probably
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: in his late 20s, early 30s, when he was calling St.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Louis Cardinal fill-in games, he's probably making like 50, 60, 70K,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: working every single game, just grinding his ass off calling
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: baseball games. And now he's making $ 18, $ 20 million calling
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Monday night football? You want me to call Dancing with
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: the Stars or be a guest judge? What time? I'll
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: fly myself there. Troy's just not going to do that.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: And listen, some former athletes will not do any of
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: that stuff. I don't remember seeing Tony Romo anywhere. Ever.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: But he was making whatever, $ 18 million calling games. Didn't
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: do anything else. It's like sometimes you got to kind
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: of play the game. Not all of us want to
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: play politics, but you get to a certain level of wealth. Hell,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: even at the bottom where it's like, hey, they're going
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: to like this. And if you work in a corporate structure,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: sometimes appeasing people is what you have to do. But
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: when you start making that much money, when you have
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: the work ratio relative to the pay ratio, and I'll
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: promise you this, when you become one of these big broadcasters,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: there can't be a better ratio in American history in
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: terms of time worked, And what you are getting paid currently.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: It's like, what time you need me to get up? Greenberg,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: I'll be there. Like, Troy's not going to play that game.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: And whoever they hire next year, whether it's Kelsey, Olsen, whatever, like,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: you'll see that guy all over ESPN. He'll be on McAfee.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: He'll be on Stephen A. He'll be on First State.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: He'll just be on all these things throughout the year.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Because it's like, hey, we're giving you $ 20 million. We're
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: going to need more than just 17 nights of work.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: in Troy's little old school, it's like, yeah, it's like
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: not doing that, which I respect, but it's like, maybe
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: that's why this is coming this way. But I, I
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: did really enjoy the, um, the cold shoulder on the open.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Like if you kind of, if you had read the story,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: you're looking for it and you're like, Oh my, I
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: see it. That is some angry body language. Uh, and
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Joe just kind of pretended like nothing was wrong and
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: they just went about their night and, and called the game. But, Yeah,
• 26:19
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• 26:28
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  Speaker 1: clearing organization. The big news of the day that the
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts have fired Chris Ballard and are now looking
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: for a GM. Dan Patrick, after the news came out,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: guy in the loop, knows a lot of rich, famous people,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: knows a lot of people in powerful positions, said the
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts not only will but have reached out to
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Peyton Manning and want him to be the grand poobah
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: and run the operation, I think a little bit a
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: la John Elway years ago in Denver. And because he's
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: no longer a player, they have mechanisms now that the
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: dad was never willing to do that maybe the daughters
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: would be open to of doing some sort of equity.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: You can buy in, become a little bit of a
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: part owner and be the boss of this operation, which
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: to me feels a little PR-y. This is an organization
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: that is currently a laughingstock. They just lost to a
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: team that didn't sniff 200 yards. That a team that
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: we all agree is god-awful. Where they, I'm pretty sure,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: had a 13-0 lead at home. They got embarrassed. And
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Chris Ballard knew this in the beginning of the season,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: was on his contract year, and was competing for his job.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: They probably had to make the playoffs for him to
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: keep it. which would have meant an extension. Same with
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: the coach who is now also, who is already on
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: the hot seat, who I would say is a dead
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: man walking. Like, Shane Steichen is not going to be
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: the coach in 2027. I think it is fair to
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: assume that. And I think a lot of people around
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: the league, I heard Albert Brewster, say this, there's a
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: potential Stefanski situation where it's like, don't be shocked when
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: he gets a job. We'll get into the Eagles later,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: but if Sirianni loses his job, that seems like a
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: pretty easy transition. You already know him, you've had success
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: with him, and he can call plays. And then when
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: you factor in, it doesn't feel like there's many Ben
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Johnsons and Kyle Shanahan's in the market. I would say
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: the two top coaches, assuming Tomlin wants to get back in,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: and there is no guarantee. Every time I see him,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: it's like, God, he's looking a little slimmer. He's got
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: a big smile on his face. As he said, I
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: get full-time pay for part-time work. Life is fucking good.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: I was thinking last night, watching my Sunday Night Football,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: It's like, you think that city looked good after 12
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: years of coaching. Can you imagine the work he's done
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: the last nine-ish months on that city? I mean, he's
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: probably added like three cities the size of New York
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: City since. So who knows? We have seen guys before
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: take some time off. Hell, Gruden took like 10 years off.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: So that will be yet to be determined. But the Eagles,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: I'm just using them as an example, don't have a
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: history of hiring defensive coaches. The one thing just... on
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: a GM job opening, they don't open nearly as much
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: as coaching jobs open, right? When you think about it,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: most GMs get multiple coaches. Just look around the league.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Joe Shane was on a second coach. Hell, John Spitek,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: second coach. That's not usually the way it works. Their turnover,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: they have longer leashes. They also have huge advantage. They
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: get to sit with the owner way more than the coach.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: They speak more the language of ownership than the coach
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: because they deal with the contracts. They deal with the money.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Coaches are dealing with three, four defenses and, you know,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: gun runs. And they speak a language that, hell, someone
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: who's worked in football does this for a living. I
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: don't understand it. We hear when these guys rattle off
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: the play call, it's like, what did he just say?
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: What just came out of his mouth? And that's what's
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: so unique about this sport. And my initial take when
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: I see this headline, it's sexy. It's going to get
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: people to click. And I'm not even saying Dan Patrick's wrong.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: He's just saying what he's hearing. And, of course, they
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: would reach out to Peyton Manning. I'd be a little surprised.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: I really would. One thing Peyton Manning has going for
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: him is, one, didn't his kid just enter high school? Like,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: wouldn't you bet on his kid being in the mix
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: of being a name that we start hearing about going
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: to some big-time colleges over the next couple years? Pretty
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: sure he left Denver a couple years ago, which also...
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: is something to acknowledge that when he got cut from
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: the Colts and went to Denver, he made Denver his
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: home post-playing. It's not like he moved back to Indianapolis.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: No shot at Indianapolis. I love, let me repeat, love
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: the city whenever I go there for the combine. It
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: is my type city. It's not massive. It's easy to
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: get around. My only beef is the airport's a little
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: far away from downtown. But again, that's nitpicking. It's beautiful
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: by all accounts. There's some super nice areas in the suburbs,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: golf courses. Obviously, Peyton can live wherever he wants. But
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: I would be a little surprised of the guy I
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: just saw a clip of going to Neyland Stadium with
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: some other famous guys who seems like he's really enjoying life,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: who you can't turn on a game during Monday night football,
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Thursday night football during the weekend and not see commercials
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: with the guy still involved. So his business operation, just
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: in terms of marketability, is still high as ever. He's
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: printing money as an advertiser or as a front man
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: for advertisements. And he has a big time company, Omaha Production,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: that has a massive deal with ESPN. So this isn't
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: anything about financial means of like, you know, he's made
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: some bad investments. I'm not saying every investment the guy's
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: made is perfect. But this is not one of those
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: situations like you could argue now he's making as much
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: money as he's ever made. It's just going to be like,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: does he truly miss it? Does he miss the juice? Well,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: one of his things is why he and Eli want
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: to do the Manning cast was like, yeah, you know,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: I don't really want to fly around and call games.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: My life's too good. I've made too much money. There
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: was a story I once heard when I was in
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: the NFL. Tom Condon, as famous of an agent as
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: anyone not named like David Falk in the 90s and
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: the 2000s, representing Peyton Manning. And a story I used
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: to hear him and Bill Polian used to go at it.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: And he'd basically tell Bill Polian on the phone during
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Peyton Manning contract negotiations, not enough, not enough. And Bill would,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: you know, old curmudgeon angry guy would be like, how
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: do you want me to build the team? And Tom
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: would essentially hang up and go, it's not my fucking problem.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: Make that number go up. Peyton was, I would say,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: the opposite of Tom Brady. Two guys whose careers paralleled
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: each other. They were rivals. Tom Brady, I would say,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: is famously known for taking discounts, at least on the
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: salary cap. Who knows what was going on on the side,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: which all four. Kawhi's problem wasn't that he was doing
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: shady shit. It's like, bro, just do an advertisement or
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: two on Twitter. They wouldn't have been able to catch you.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: but he refused. Peyton had no problem doing any of that, right?
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: And I just think from a financial standpoint, Peyton wouldn't
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: be doing it for the money. And the one thing
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: that goes along with this life is you don't have
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: a life. John Elway was at the office every single day.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: John Elway's golf game went out the fucking window. John
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Elway's days of just going out and drinking beers at
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: the game didn't exist. And he probably was having a
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: little more fun than some of these lifer GMs. But
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: it's not a job, it's a lifestyle. And Peyton, like Tom,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: are good examples of when they played, they had no
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: life during the season. They grinded 24-7. Remember, part of
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: the reason Peyton Manning liked Adam Gase is because when
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: he was at his house studying film at 1 o'clock
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: in the morning, he could text Adam and he'd get
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: a text immediately back. That was like Tom's deal with
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels. They could communicate at all hours of the night.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Drew Brees and Sean Peyton. Remember Eli used to talk about, yeah,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Tuesday's an off day for the players, not the quarterbacks.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: And does he want that? Also, if you are the
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Colts and you have hit rock bottom, you got bent
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: over by Daniel Jones, you have a roster full of
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: aging players and you're going nowhere fast. Shouldn't you be
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: in the mix of like, who's the next Howie Roseman?
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Who's the next John Schneider? Who's the next guy who's
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: been doing this as a profession for a long period
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: of time to get us going in the right direction?
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: than just trying to make the PR higher. Because my
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: first initial thought was like, I would doubt Peyton would
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: take this job. And if he did, I would view
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: it closer to Tom Brady. Like, yeah, I'll buy a piece.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: I'll kind of, you know, be a part of the organization,
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: but I'm not coming into the office and grinding 13, 14,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: 15 hours a day, basically 10 months a year. Because
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: as a GM, the season ends. It's chill for the coaches.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: That's when your season starts. Senior Bowl, Combine, free agency,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: the draft, the meetings. It never ends. It's why I give, listen,
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: John Lynch is highly paid. Some sources will tell you
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: he's the highest paid GM in the league. He doesn't
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: need to be doing this. Now, he's paid a lot
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: of money for those services, but it's like, God, I
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: give him a lot of respect. You know, he could
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: be with his feet up in San Diego if he
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: wanted to, but he likes to juice. Like, it's not
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: like Peyton hasn't had these opportunities and he's passed on.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: Same with Tom. Like, if Tom truly had wanted to do, like, listen,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: I respect Matt Ryan. And Matt Ryan said when he
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: got hired, like, I'm going to go into the office
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: every day. Like, this is going to be my full-time job.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Quit CBS. And I would bet if you were having
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: a beer with Matt Ryan, it's like, God, this job's
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: a little different than I thought as a player. I
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: don't just get to like, yeah, just go to the
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: steam room and the hot tub and the cold tub,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: just hang out for like an hour in the middle
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: of the day. Like, no, that's not really the way
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: this thing works. Plus, everyone's looking at you as the boss.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: You know, as a player, clearly you are a leader.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: But as the boss, like from the secretary to the
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: scouts to the assistant coaches, like everyone looks at you.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: And if I could give advice to Carly, Ursae, Gordon,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: assuming that Peyton Manning says no to this or it's
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: not interested or this doesn't come to fruition, hire the
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: best possible people in the league. Do a full-on search
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: like all these other teams do. You've had Chris Ballard
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: for a long time. I don't know him personally, but
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: everyone seems to like him. His downfall clearly was couldn't
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: find a quarterback and then kind of thought he did
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: and then gave the guy $ 90 million guaranteed on a
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: torn Achilles. I... I thought that was, listen, you never
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: want to make deals out of desperation because typically they
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: blow up in your face and this one blew up
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: in his face. The Josh McDaniels things would have been
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: a disaster, but he wasn't the only guy that tried
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: to hire him. A lot of people were trying to
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: hire him constantly. The Niners tried to hire him. He
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: said no, they got Kyle Shanahan. The Raiders hired him,
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: blew up in their face. He tried to hire him
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: and he turned him down at the altar. it happens.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Everyone was on this guy because it was believable. It's like, well,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: he's changed his life. He's looked in the mirror. He's
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: a nicer guy. Players like him. And then now he
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: holds a record of the only guy to have, uh,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: two different jobs as a head coach in the NFL
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: and not make it through year two, either time. And
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: then obviously the Shane Steichen thing, like you just, you
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: don't have a quarterback. You got no chance. And that's
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: the situation they're in. So this Colts, um, I would
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: say trajectory is going to be a rough year. I
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: think it's going to get worse before it gets better.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: But my gut says Peyton Manning doesn't take this job.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: Life's too good. He's making too much money. And the
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: stress of this, why would he want to take that on?
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: He had the stress of being the lead dog in
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: the league with Tom for almost 20 years. The other
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: big story of the day is the Eagles PR nightmare.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: And I want to defend Nick Sirianni. And you know,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: it's not like I'm some Nick Sirianni backer here. You
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: could make the argument that he is one of the
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: luckiest men in the history of America. Be the equivalent
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: of like, who was your college roommate? Yeah, this guy
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: started Google. One day he asked me, he's like, hey man,
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: you got any spare change? If you want to invest
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: in this company, I think it's going to be big.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: And I gave him 20 grand. And then 10 years later,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: it was... $ 800 million. I didn't have to do shit.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: They just put me in the room with them first
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: day of college. He was my doormate. I mean, it's like,
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: that's how you made your $ 800 million? Yeah, I gave
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: a guy $ 25, 000. I actually heard a story once from
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: a guy in the finance world. I played golf with
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: him one time. Good guy. And he told me there's
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: a pro sports owner. I'm not going to tell you
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: which sport, but he's a pretty famous guy. And he's
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: pretty outspoken and arrogant. Like, he bumps his chest out there.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: And said that, you know, a lot of his wealth
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: came in the business he was in because of a
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: decision his partners made that essentially invested in one of
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: the biggest companies in the world when they were essentially
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: being built in a garage. got in on the ground
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: floor for a couple hundred grand, and that thing became
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: the majority of the wealth of their firm. And he
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: gets a lot of credit for it, but from what
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: I was told, he had nothing to do with it.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: which again, being partners with the right people, making decisions,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: happens to a lot of our lives. But sometimes things
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: just go well for you and you didn't have that
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: much to do with it. Pretty rare. I would say
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: it's very rare. You look at Andy Reid, where's his
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: success come? Well, he's created a lot of it. I
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: would say he has been a driving force in the
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: success that has followed throughout his career. Sirianni would go, well,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: he got hired, which was a desirable place. No one
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: else was going to hire him at the time. And
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: he inherited a Hall of Fame general manager, an owner
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: willing to spend a ton of money, and within a
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: couple years, one of the most talented rosters in the NFL.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: But today he's being peppered about this situation that Jalen
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Hurts is now out for the year, which I don't
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: know why once he had the blood clots in his calf,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: anyone thought he was going to return. My neighbor, retired doctor,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: I thought he was retired, but I always see him
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: on the phone like talking with patients and other people.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: But he tells me he's retired from Philadelphia. Diehard Eagles fans.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Saw him at the grass the other day walking our dogs.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: And he's like, yeah, I don't I don't. This was
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: before the news came out about the lung blood clots
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: in his lung. This one was in the cap. He's like,
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: he's not gonna be back this year. No, no chance.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: And then it comes out the blood clots in the lung,
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: the story about the hospital and not sleeping all night.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: My first thought was, would this have happened if they
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: were just sent him to a Philadelphia hospital? Or if
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: he had been in Jacksonville, Florida and been in the States?
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know. No one knows the answer to that.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: But I think it's a fair thing to ask. If
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: we had sent him to a local hospital, like if
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: he had just gone to Honor Health, where I'm sitting
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: right now, or the Mayo Clinic, Would he have come
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: back at four in the morning and been like, everything's good, man.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: Just don't sleep. I don't know. Whoever that doctor is
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: that gave that okay feels like his medical license should
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: be in question. But when coaches say, I'm no medical doctor,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: it's not my decision. This is in the 70s. This
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: isn't when a guy is injured, you're like, don't be
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: a pussy, shake it off and get out there. Those
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: days are done. Especially a guy like Jalen Hurts who's
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: making 50, 60 million dollars a year. That once he
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: goes away to the doctor, it is completely out of
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: your hands. It's why during the draft process, during the season,
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: when a doctor says he can't go... He can't go.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: There's no way. I'll just tough it through. And guess what?
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: And we've learned this for a long time because one
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: thing was clear, which thank God nothing terrible happened. Obviously,
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: blood clots in his lungs. That could be game over.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, the worst possible situation here. We talk a
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: lot about these situations like coming back from injury too early.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: Micah Parsons. It's like tearing another Achilles, tearing a calf,
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: tearing a hamstring, overcompensating. These aren't life or death situations.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: This clearly is. You get them in your lungs, boom,
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: game over. It's a wrap. The plane flight home could
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: have been a disaster. Very fair for everyone to go,
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: what the fuck is going on? So Sirianni, because he's
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: the head coach and talks like four times a week,
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: that's part of the deal in the NFL, is getting
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: peppered with these questions. He doesn't control any of that.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: The doctors do. The trainers do. And to me, someone
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: dropped the ball on this situation and they're going to
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: pay for it. Clearly. The Eagles have fired doctors before.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: My guess is doctors are getting shit canned again. Unless,
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: you know, based on the information that I have seen,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: And just following the league. I know this, and this
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: is what the Eagles should do. I actually think it's
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: unfair to throw Sirianni out there to get peppered about
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts in this situation with all the information because
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: people are going to want answers. And clearly he's had
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: more information based on things that doctors are telling him,
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: but he's not saying anything. But it's not his call.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: If they knew he had blood clots, like, well, just
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: don't go to bed. Like, that's where it's like, what?
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Guy didn't sleep? It was like, well, he kind of slept.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: He got back. Even Jalen's like, it was a bizarre situation.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: And think about Jalen, right? He's seen it all in
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: his football career. The guy was benched after going 26-2.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Starting quarterback at mid-dynasty at Alabama. Got benched. didn't see
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: his job back until the following year in the championship
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: game or SEC championship game when Tua got injured. And
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: then on the flip side in the NFL, he essentially
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: did that to Carson Wentz. So this is a guy
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: that is not giving up his spot for anything, which
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: is how a lot of football guys think. So it's
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: on the doctor to take it out of their hand
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: and go, you can't play. But to think that coaches
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: have the juice with players of his stature. So, I mean,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: I feel like I'm defending a guy that I don't
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: even think can coach. And I think inevitably gets fired.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: But he is going to get destroyed on social media,
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: I would imagine. I just don't put this on Sirianni.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: I really don't. This is on the doctors and their
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: situation of completely fucking up. And they got extremely lucky
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: that this didn't turn out to be, I mean, potentially
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: one of the worst moments in the history of the sport.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: You know, and obviously everyone talks about how do you
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: let them fly back on the plane on those like eight,
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: nine hours from London to Philadelphia? This is a massive,
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: massive ball drop by everyone involved in the medical community.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: But to think, I mean, Sirianni can't even call an
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: out route. You think he knows how to diagnose blood clots?
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: You think he knows how to diagnose? What are we
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: talking about? I just think sometimes these coaches, and this
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: is why you get paid a lot of money, you
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: get thrown out in situations that you had nothing to
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: do with and you got to answer for. Obviously, this
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: is a situation that's not going to go away. I
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: think in a perfect world, the easiest way to kind
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: of slow it down is like throw out the person
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: that made the decision. obviously not the dude in London
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: that probably has nothing to do with the team, but
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: like your doctor who was probably traveling with you, your
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: training staff, uh, other teams have done that and let
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: them kind of describe the information they got had maybe
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: an information that they fucked up on that maybe a
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: scan didn't show. Who knows? I'm no medical doctor either.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: Just went to a couple of state schools, got a
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: couple of degrees, no big deal. Uh, but I don't know.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think this situation is definitely not going
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: to go away. And this is one that people are
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: going to dive deep on. This is like Pablo Torre
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: written all over it. Everyone has fun with fuck them
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: picks and laughs about it and makes t-shirts about it. And,
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: you know, Les and Sean have always kind of like
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: embraced it. Like I've always thought it was a little arrogant.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: Like I've always thought, you know, you guys acted like
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: you reinvented something. Like you traded Jared Goff and two
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: first round picks for Matt Stafford. Other teams were trying
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: to do the same thing. You just had Jared Goff
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: as an asset, right? And then it cost you the
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: number six overall pick the following year. You just traded
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: a cost-controlled asset. In fairness, Jared Versa, you know, doesn't
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: have a sack this year, is clearly not doing as
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: well as he did for the Rams with the Browns,
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: but had been an ascending player, had been a guy with,
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: you know, could have been a consistent pro bowler, wasn't
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: as good as Myles Garrett, but was an elite run defender,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: and had been an extremely durable player, and was cheap,
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: with a first round pick, a second round pick, and
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: a third round pick for a guy who now can't
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: play at all. Who's not only injured, but there is
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: no timetable for his return. And then when you're doing
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: all this, like we're going all in, you draft Ty Simpson.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: A smaller quarterback who had, I would say, less than
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: half a season of production of going, yeah, this guy's
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: a really good player, finished the season banged up. And
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: was also, if he had been fully healthy and wanted
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: to return, Alabama was not going to make him the
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: starting quarterback next year.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: Because they wanted to go with Keelan Russell, who clearly
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: is way more talented than Ty Simpson. And I'm not
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: trying to shit on Ty Simpson, but I stand by this.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: It's one of the most arrogant, insane picks in the
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: history of the league. I truly believe that. It's based
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: on his profile of a one-year starter with his physical attributes.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: It's nuts. In hell, you'd be like, well, it's a
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: long-term plan. If a guy was talented, he should show
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: up and beat out Stetson Bennett in a heartbeat with
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: his fucking eyes closed. Look at Jalen Daniels. Shows up,
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: beats everyone else out. Now we can debate how good
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: the guy is, but he like wins the job. Like
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: this guy can't win the job. And today was worse
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: than Sunday when they got embarrassed by the Arizona Cardinals
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: because that's what happened. They got embarrassed. They lost Devontae Adams,
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: who we saw leave that game, for six to ten weeks,
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: who was going to have a procedure done on his hamstring.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: So I think it's fair to say that's closer to
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: ten weeks, which, if you do the math, could be
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: the season, than it would be six. They lost multiple
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: defensive linemen. Kobe Turner had to go to IR. Puna
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: Ford's triceps out for the year. And their kicker, who
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: got knocked out of the game, which I would say
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: of the four guys, easiest guy to replace, you just
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: sign some other kicker. on IR done for the year.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: That's a disastrous day. And you trade it for Myles Garrett,
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: who can't play. Meanwhile, you don't have your first round pick.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: This season could not be going any worse. And the
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: other elephant in the room is Stafford has kept doing
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: this like one year type deal. It's like, well, I'll
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: see how this year goes. He does look a little
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: old this year. He's still good, and when you watch
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: him on the right drive, elite arm, the accuracy, the
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: red zone passes a couple weeks ago against the Bills
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: who can't cover a soul. We're still elite. I'm not
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: trying to act like this guy is out of the
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: league talent-wise at this point in time, but it doesn't
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: quite look as good as last year. I don't see
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: how anyone would argue that. And I also think when
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: they do all these moves, the pressure that was added
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: is multiplied several times over and they are clearly not
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: handling it well there is no disputing that it was
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: clear with with Oregon it's like something's off you could
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: debate like.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: The actual reason but it is one thing that is
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: not arguable is like they're fucked up I mean they
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: got very very lucky.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: To win that game like one o'clock in the morning
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: with Dylan Raiola who they're paying a lot of money
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: and he had to come in because they had to
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: bench the other guy because he was terrible So I
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: just look at the Rams and go, you know, sometimes
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: arrogance and pumping your chest out. Like, let's face it,
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: Ben Johnson does it. And then he went in with
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: Tyson Bajet to Lambeau Field and got his teeth kicked in.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: A little bit of a humble pie. Now he bounced
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: back and treated Kevin Stefanski like a JV coach because
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: I think Stefanski's one of the most overrated coaches in America.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: And Michael Penix, I mean, God, when that guy's off–
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: And I was a Michael Pennick supporter coming out of Washington,
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: but I'm out. I mean, you just can't play in
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: the league when you can't move. If you get any
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: pressure on the guy, he just folds like a tent,
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: and he actually goes in the tent a lot. But
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: this Rams, the hype machine behind it and the results now,
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: I just don't think they could have been on more
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: opposite ends of the spectrum. And by no means did
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: I predict them sucking. I did not predict them sucking,
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: but I, I, I, I felt pretty confident going. Everyone
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: is too. Football does not work like these other sports
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: where you just plug and play guys. Team chemistry matters, uh,
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: coming together in the scheme matters. The repetitions playing together
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: really matters and everything just looks off. You know what
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: I mean? And it goes back to like Puka just
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: disappears to the wellness place. Um, Miles Garrett just can't
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: really practice because he's injured in training camp, and now
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: he's just out. The arrogance, and I repeat the arrogance,
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: don't give me a fucking science, of going to Australia
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: the day before is one of the craziest things that's
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: ever been done in the NFL from a non-on-the-field perspective.
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: It's like, let's just use some common sense. We were
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: flying to a different hemisphere. They are playing the game
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: at 10 a.m. in the morning the following day. Like,
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan has been living on a different day than
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: you for a week. He didn't have to put out
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: his injury report on the Wednesday in Australia because he argued, well,
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: it's only Tuesday for Sean McVay, so I will wait
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: to put out mine when he has to put out his.
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: And he was right, and the NFL granted him that.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: But that was the extreme measure based on the time zones. And...
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: It started with that Australia game. You could argue that
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: was just a bad omen. You're really going to approach
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: this like this? As people in the league have texted
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: me back when it happened, they just send a couple
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: scouting assistants with some whoops, had them run around for
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: a couple days and see how the readings were. How
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: could you possibly have them go on a five-mile jog
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: and see how they recovered? How could you, there's no
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: way to prepare for what those guys were going to
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: be asked to do in the actual game. And clearly
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: it backfired. And it has now derailed their entire season.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: There is no arguing that. They got a gift in
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: game two when Jackson Dart gets KO'd on the first
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: series of the game. And Jameis Winston, who's clearly a
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: rollercoaster ride, played what had to be one of the
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: worst games we've ever seen played in the NFL. I mean,
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: it was, even for his standards, it couldn't have been
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: much worse. But this is a team staring a top-ten
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: draft pick right in the face. The problem is they
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: don't have it. The Browns do. And those are the
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: type things, and I mentioned this yesterday, of like, you're
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: Sean McVay, you're going to, do you really believe in
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: Ty Simpson? Do you really think he's a long-term answer
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: at quarterback? You think he's a guy that can keep
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: you playing with the top young players at quarterback position
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: in the league? I don't know. Let's do some mailbag questions.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: How does the replay assist work? This is Mohammed. Like,
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: is there anyone who knows how it works? I'm not
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: one of those Rams fans who believe the league is
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: rigging the game against them. They deserve to be two
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: and four. But there has to be some consistency with
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: the assist. Last week against the Bills, they call roughing
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: the passer on Stafford, which they never call. Stafford has
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: had one roughing the passer penalty over the last two years.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: And immediately they picked it up because they said replay
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: assist reviewed it, and there was no head contact. And again,
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: the Cardinals, their player lands on the Rams player, and
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: there is no review. They might have scored anyway, but
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: it just ended the game right there. I agree. I
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: do think that play didn't determine the outcome, but it
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: was an egregious call. I do think there are just
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: people in New York or the league office that are
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: in communication with each game. And their job is to
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: look at the monitor. We saw this, what game was it?
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: Was it Ohio State-Indiana? I think it was the Big Ten.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: And the on-the-field ref consistently, they would play the audio.
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: So you could hear the guy at the home base,
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: wherever that is, Indianapolis, Chicago, in communication with the on-field ref.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: Now when he would go to the sideline and talk.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: And the on-the-field ref consistently had no clue what was
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: going on. It was like he didn't even know the rules.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: And when I watched that, and this was a massive game,
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: I kind of thought, do some of these guys, based
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: on their little fatigues running around, the pressure, completely over
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: their heads? Because that's what it kind of feels like sometimes. Listen, the...
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: Officiating in football is atrocious. It is over-regulated right now.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: It's over-officiated. Every time you look up, there's a flag
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: on the field. And listen, we read the stats, was
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: it last week or two weeks ago from Warren Sharp?
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: It's clearly the biggest downs, the third downs, the fourth
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: downs in the red zone. You know, calling off touchdowns
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: or on third and eight, giving them a free first down.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: It's egregious. And it has jumped the shark of like, okay,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: let's PI. Not everything has to be a flag. And
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: then now you've got all these fans, myself included, you're
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: just kind of on the ropes, right? You get mad
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: about when a flag's not thrown. You get mad when
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: too many flags are thrown. It's completely out of whack
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: right now. And I don't know how you kind of
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: contain it, how you kind of roll it back. It
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: feels like it's just... It's out of control. And it
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: does feel like a lot of these officials, listen, it's
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: easier to officiate the game to run game management from
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: your couch. It's easier for the official in the league
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: office or in the conference office when he's sipping a
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: coffee with his feet up eating a bagel to get
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: it right. I do understand the pressure of being on
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: the field. These games are hot or they're cold. You've
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: got a lot going on. But that is your job.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: And this gets back to the NFL. I'm sorry. You
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: guys know where I've stood when it comes to money
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: in the NFL. I totally understand certain fights. I get
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: the NFL. We're fighting guaranteed money. Not every contract is
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: going to be guaranteed. I get it. This is a
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: league that is... the outcome is so tied to injuries,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: guys get injured. Like I would fight that too, if
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: I was on their side, but I've never understood the
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: grass field thing. It's like, guys, what are we talking about?
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: A couple million dollars. How much are we actually talking
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: to make officials full-time? And the answer is more than
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: they would like to spend because that also comes with
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: health insurance, uh, other things that they would have to
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: pay for that. They just make you part-time. Well, it's
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: like you get part-time officials, you get part-time results. And
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: that's what it feels like it has become. That no
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: one knows what's going on, ever. Somewhat of a random question,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: but what are your thoughts on pugs? I've always wanted
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: to get one, but my partner doesn't seem eye to
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: eye with me. No, they shed more than the average
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: dog and have health issues, but feel like I am
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: at the point in life that it's either now or
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: 30 years from now as to when I could raise
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: one for its entire life. We have a, uh, a
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: pug zoo. Well, Maria adopted it before. Well, she, she, uh,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: what's it called? Uh, she fostered it and then she
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: became connected to it. Just kept it before I ever
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: met her. And it's a pug zoo. So it's a
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: pug body, like the fat body with kind of the
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: zoo fluff. We say in my house, the, the pug
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: makes her chubby and the zoo makes her fluffy that
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: I have been around big dogs my whole life, mainly labs,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: who also shed a lot and have a lot of energy.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: But I always thought, like, I'm a big dog guy.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: And then I got around this pug zoo, and I
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: just become part of my family, and I can't imagine
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: living without Lolly. So I'm a huge pug guy. Now,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: you know, the pugs typically have the shorter hair. Lolly
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: gets really, really fluffy, but chillest dog ever. I mean,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: sometimes I grab Jack and I point him at Lolly,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: and he's also like hitting her and grabbing her, and
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: she's just been awesome. There were times when I was like, Lolly,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't even blame you if you bit his little toe,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: bit his little hands. He's fucking with you. But I'm
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: a huge fan. Once you get a little dog for
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: the first time when you've been, you know, most of
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: your experience has been bigger, full-sized dogs, I tell my
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: mom this all the time, who lost her lab Callie
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: within the last year. I think Callie was like 13
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: or 14 years old. It's like, just get a small dog.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: They're really easy and chill. Big believer in them. I'm 25.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: And in 15 plus years of watching the NFL, it
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: feels like a parody of who can win it all
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: grows year over year. But this year, it feels bigger
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: than ever before by a big margin. Right now, after
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: six weeks, clearly looks like the Chiefs and the Niners,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: I'm recording this part before the Monday night game, Super Bowl,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: that should be the favorite. But after those two teams,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: it looks wide open. And not because we have a
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: lot of teams overperforming, it feels like a lot of
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: teams are underperforming. What are your thoughts on the parity
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: in the league? Well, I do think injuries plays a massive,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: massive part. Like, let's use the Browns and the Ravens
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: currently have the same record, right? The Browns just beat
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: the Ravens in Cleveland, which was a game that we
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: were all over. It's like, hey, things get weird there.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: Let's take the Browns in this game. I'll be honest,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: when it was 10-0, I regretted it. I'm like, this
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: is stupid. But... Snoop Huntley is who we thought he is.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: He ain't Lamar. So Lamar's just going to miss games.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: They could lose whenever. You also like the Patriots, who
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: clearly if Drake Mays is going to play like that,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: are going to be really good. But early in the season,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: he looked like a shell of himself. So I think
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: part of it is you never know week to week
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: what you're going to get. The Jacks, they... I mean,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: I guess they went 1-1 in London, but it feels
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: like they could have lost both. They could have won both.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: I think part of football, the majority of these games
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: are going to be within a score, like heading into
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. I don't know if the stat's the same,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: but like five years ago, it was like 80-plus percent.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: And some of it is injuries play a huge factor.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: We have more injuries than ever in the NFL. I mean,
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: star players get hurt in August. And by the end
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: of September, it's like guys are missing all over the
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: place on injury reserve. There's also not that many great coaches.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: You know, I was thinking about the college quarterbacks. Because someone,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: I saw something on the X, the everything app, Twitter.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: that said, if you think it's bad now, look what
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: is currently playing in college football. The NFL should get ready.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: We have a quarterback problem. And I go, eh, I
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: don't know about that. Because there have always been guys
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: in college who you would have been like, this guy's
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: not going to be a good NFL player. And then
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: go on to be 15-year NFL starters. We saw one
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: last night. Dak Prescott played at Mississippi State. A lot
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: of people thought, like, this isn't going to work. He's
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: been a starter ever since his rookie year. Josh Allen
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: played at Wyoming, could barely throw 50% completion percentage. Now,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: looking back, it's like, well, it wasn't all his fault.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: But still, he couldn't get Fresno State and San Diego
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: State to give him college offers. So Jordan Love went
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: to Utah State. Brock Purdy went to Iowa State and
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: was the last pick in the seventh round. So you
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: just don't know how things are going to play out.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza just went one. I don't know. I'm a fan.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: I'm rooting for him, but there's no guarantee how good
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: he's going to be. Like, will he ever be as
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: good one day, not like this current version, but like
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: of Kirk Cousins' career? I think the Raiders would sign
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: up for that right now. Cam Ward just went number
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: one overall. The guy stinks. You know, I mean, Jackson
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: Dart went in the end of the first round, looks
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: way better than Cam Ward, but he can't stay healthy.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: So for every Caleb and Jared Goff, guys that go
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: number one overall, there are a lot of like Tyler Shuck,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: who statistically actually is having a really good season. But
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: he went to like seven different colleges. And now he's
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: got 12 touchdowns through six games. He's averaging two touchdowns
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: a game. And he's 65% completion percentage. I mean, when
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: it's all said and done, he'll probably throw 35 touchdowns.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: And it's not, I wouldn't put their shitty record on him.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: Their defense has been atrocious. So I think football's weird
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: that way. You just, even Lamar Jackson was a 30-second
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: pick in the draft. The Ravens passed on him. In
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: the first round, they took someone else. I heard you ask,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: are the Packers back? Do you think the answer to
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: that question is the game against the Panthers? I feel
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: like if the Panthers match... Up well against us it'll
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: tell us if we are the best of the bad
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: teams or the bottom of the good teams The touchdown
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: drops and penalties have me worried for the Lions game
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: next week So the Packers who have won three straight,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: their next... This is a tough little stretch here. At Detroit,
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: home against the Panthers. At New England, home against the Vikings.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: I would say at 4-2, if you can go... If
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: you go 2-2 in that stretch, you're going to be
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: a playoff team. You'll be 6-4 with games coming up
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: against the Rams who are in shambles, Saints whose defense sucks.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: You've still got the Dolphins. You'll be able to get
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: to 9 or 10 wins. If you go 3-1, you
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: could win the division. If you go 1-3, then things
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: could get a little weird. I'm with you. If you
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: lose this Detroit game, not the end of the world,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: even though you are kind of built to be an
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: indoor team, I know he dropped some touchdowns. Watson, definitely golden.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: But those two guys in a dome, I mean, that's...
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: Is Jacobs coming back? Your offense could be pretty sweet.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: Because one thing is like, well, Detroit, they have a
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: good offense, no defense. Shouldn't Jordan Love light them up
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: like Christmas tree? I think it's a good call. I
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: think the key of this four-game stretch, minimum 2-2, 1-3
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: would be a problem because it means you're losing the
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: playoff teams. Three and one would be excellent because you're like,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: we're beating playoff teams. And two and two, you're just
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: holding serve and like headed to a wild card game,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: which would be impressive after. I mean, that Falcons game
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: was a pretty low point. When is the media going
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: to stop with Kevin O'Connell being a quarterback whisperer? It
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: was Kyle and SF that rehabilitated Sam Darnold. J.J. McCarthy
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: looked pretty good yesterday with the Giants, and the only
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: reason the Vikings are 5-0, not 0-5, is because of Flores.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: Definitely isn't because of Kyler's improvement being under Kevin. Isn't
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: it time to start asking for receipts on this quarterback
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: whisper notion about him? I'll push back on the Darnold
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: thing a little bit. Sam was the backup, you know?
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: So while Kyle and Purdy and Kubiak and those guys
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: clearly uplifted his confidence, it's not like he threw 35
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: touchdowns for them. Pretty sure that he played week 17,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: I think their last game, because they had a bye
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: all wrapped up. Kevin O'Connell gets credit for Sam Darnold.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: That was his first year starting rehabilitating his value. Because
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: even when they signed him, Like, he went to the
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: Niners for a couple million dollars, and then they gave
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: him $ 10 million. Which was, you could say, still a
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: little bold. It was the best $ 10 million relative, I mean,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: to how much backups get paid we've ever seen. To
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: get a one-year deal like that and get 35 touchdowns?
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: So he gets credit for that. But I'm with you.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: I've always said, little overrated. Little overrated. Good coach. A
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: lot of teams would want him. He also gets credit
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: for hiring Flores. Like part of being a head coach
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: is like part of being a GM, like being a GM,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: like the draft. Well, what about free agency? What about
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: the coach you hired? What about, you know, your scouting staff?
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: What about helping your coaches out? There's so much else
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: that goes under that umbrella. It's like, well, what about
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: the coach or the quarterback of the offense? Well, he
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: also hires a staff and he hired Brian Flores. There's
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: a flag every single play. The NFL is getting ridiculous.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: Dak got bailed out for a terrible interception because of
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: a joke roughing the passer. Is this going to eventually
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: catch up to the NFL? I fear the game I
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: once loved is becoming unwatchable. Holy shit. Not just with
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: the game, but all of the ones I've watched today
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: and what the hell is going on. I think we
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: all think this. We're like, how is this possible to
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: be this clunky? How does it feel like it's getting
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: worse every year? And I just saw 17 million people
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: watch Thursday Night Football, Seattle, Denver. I mean, the ratings
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: keep going up, or at least keep sustaining. Football kind
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: of has us by the you-know-what. Where else are we
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: going to go? Sometimes I think when I'm watching... just
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: football for hours on end, Saturday morning through Sunday night.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, I thought about it Saturday. We got up, right?
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: Jack wakes up, watch a little game day, a little
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: big noon, watch football starting with the Ohio State game,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: all the way through the BYU-Notre Dame game. And then
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: I go, yeah, let's just throw on a show. Go
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: to bed. While I'm still checking the Oregon score on
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: my phone, fall asleep about 10.30. I am up by
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: 6.15 in the morning, have a cup of coffee with
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: Jack on the couch, watching kickoff to the 6.30 a.m. kickoff,
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: watch football all the way through the end. I literally
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: watched the kneel downs in the Packer-Cowboy game. Now, I'm
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: a bad example. I'm doing this for a living, but
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: I think I would be finding ways to consume maybe
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: not as much, but I would still watch a ton.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: And we just complain. It's one of those things like
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: If you have a bad meal at a restaurant, you
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: can just find somewhere else to eat. If you're in
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: a terrible relationship, you can just dump her and try
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: to meet someone else. Where are we going to go?
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: Where else are we going to go? And the answer
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: is we got nowhere to go. They got us. They
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: truly do. I did watch some of Mobland the last
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: couple nights. late at night trying to kind of calm down.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: I stayed up way too late on Sunday night because
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I need to decompress. So
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: she's passed out by the time I get back in
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: the room at like 10.15, finishing up podcasting 10.30. Brush
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: my teeth, wash my face. You're kind of amped up,
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: you know, when you're talking to football. So I just
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: grab my phone, put a little earpiece in, watch like,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to watch like 20 minutes. Then all
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: of a sudden I look, it's like midnight. I've banged
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: out like an episode and a half. I'm like, oh.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, at about 5.15, you hear,
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: you're like, holy shit, I regret staying up that extra hour.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: After the Rams-Cardinal game, the Rams losing their kicker, then
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: having their punter get an extra point, why don't teams
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: try to get someone who can do punt and kick,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: essentially combining the position? That's a good question. I've always
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: thought because if you have a kicker punter who's the
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: same guy, well, if that guy gets that injury, what
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: are you going to do about the other? One thing
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: the other guy can always step in for the other guy.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: If your punter goes down, your kicker can technically punt.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: If your kicker goes down, we just saw the punter
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: could kick an extra point. But if the guy's the
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: same human being and he snaps his leg, tears his ACL,
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: breaks his shoulder trying to tackle somebody, you don't have
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: that human being. What do you do? The answer is
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: you'd be screwed. So I do think that's somewhat the reason.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: But that would be a great question for a guy
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: like Chris Ballard. He's got some free times on his hands.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: I was thinking today, when he comes in, a company
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: like that, I'm sure she calls him into his office,
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: HR is there, you've got to go through the formal process.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: In a situation like that where you've been there forever
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: and they have a good relationship, Is he in tears? Like,
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: because it's emotional. Anytime, even if it's not going well,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: you're told you're fired. You're told this is over. You
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: spent so much time and, you know, sweat equity in
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: the operation. Does she allow you to go talk to everybody,
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: say goodbye? Do you just get escorted out of the building?
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I was thinking about that today. My
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: guess is they probably allow him to go say some goodbyes.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: Does he too prideful? Does he just walk out? Was
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: it one of those coming to the office where he
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: had a pretty good idea? This could be all she wrote.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: As someone texted me today, like for as much as
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: it probably sucked for him today, what didn't suck is
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: the way his 401k looks after those 10 years. I
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: had people like, I was like, how much do you
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: think he's made over the last 10 years? Text a
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: couple people. They're like, yeah, my guess would be like
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: 30 to 40 million. He's doing okay. Probably won't be
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: a GM again though. Is the pre-fit prevent defense outdated?
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: I get the idea of not letting up a big play,
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: but when the offense starts at 35 and get a
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: PA PI flag, when you breathe on a wide receiver,
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: shouldn't the defense just play the same defenses? P.S. If
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: you think some stuff has changed now that your son
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: is crawling, you're in for it. When he starts walking,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: I would agree. Uh, He pulled himself up the other
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: day for the first time and stood up on the table.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: And then you had to jump behind him and catch
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: him because he would have gone back and it would
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: have been concussion protocol for sure. I think that is
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: a fair question. People hated to prevent defense back when
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: you could play defense. Why don't you just play normal defense?
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: Especially if your defense has been having success. You don't
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: need to go all out blitz, but just run normal
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: defensive calls. I never understand where it's like, yeah, so
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: we're in prevent defense. Like, guys, you're up 10 with
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: five minutes to go. If you allow a quick score,
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: like they still got three timeouts, how about you just
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: play normal defense? I'm with you on that one. I
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: know the Jets are hard to talk about. I saw
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn at halftime when he was being interviewed coming
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: off the field was like, we get the ball coming out.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: And it was like, actually, they didn't. They got the
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: ball to start the game. Maybe I misread that, but
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn, he's in trouble. He'll be the defensive coordinator
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: next year for the Lions. I just imagine he'll just
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: go back. Do you think that someone like Steve Sarkeesian
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: would be a good fit? No chance. You cannot. If
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: Steve Sarkeesian gets run out of Texas, which he's in
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: major trouble right now, pretty sure that Texas this week
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: plays Ole Miss, who I would say has the best
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: quarterback in the country. Ole Miss plays Texas in Texas,
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: night game. I mean, if Texas goes 9-3, that would
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: assume if they lost Ole Miss, they'd beat Mississippi State, Missouri, LSU, Arkansas,
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: Texas A & M, which I guess would be possible.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: I don't think you can lose to Oklahoma, Florida, and
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: Ole Miss and still make the playoffs. Ole Miss would
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: be your best loss. Oklahoma's terrible. I think Sark would be–
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: you couldn't justify that in the New York market. He
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: just got run out of Texas after having a $ 50 million–
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: the highest paid roster in the country. Yeah, I don't
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: think you can. Well, the Texans turned around this season.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: Their next four fixtures look winnable, which would bring them
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: to 6-4. The defense is still sadly questionable to the
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: amount of points they could cede every game to sustain
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: a good push into the playoffs. I would agree the
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: major difference this year compared to last year, clearly their
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: offense is playing pretty well. I mean, CJ Stroud's having
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: a good season. Underrated part about the Texans start was like,
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: CJ had to look good. Like his stats through six games,
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: he's got nine touchdowns in one pick. I mean, his
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: first pick, which, how about the cameraman in that game?
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: For some of you, especially on the West Coast, I
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: don't know if you might have sleep in on Sundays,
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: totally understand. But if you were up and watched that
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: whole game, it felt like ESPN sent the C team.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, the cameramen had no clue about play-action fakes.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: They would just go with guys. The ball wouldn't be there.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: And on CJ's pick to Travis Hunter, all of a
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: sudden it's interception and Travis is going nuts. You're like,
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: I want to see this pick. And then they had
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: to show the replay because the cameramen missed it. And
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: he just threw it right to him. He's having a
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: really good season. 65%, nine touchdowns. Basically averaging like two
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: sacks a game. He's been good. It's not like they
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: have some dominant running attack. I guess Montgomery got hurt,
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: but didn't play in that game because he was hurt.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: But I kind of like Woody Marks. If six rushing touchdowns,
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: I guess five if you don't count CJ's. Yeah, I
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: would say... Their pass coverage clearly doesn't look as good.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: Last year it felt like Stingley was awesome, but Lassiter
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: was a high-end number two. He was the equivalent of
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: a number one corner for the number two corner on teams.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: You could make the argument that he was the best
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: number two corner in the league. Petrie was incredible, and
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: the pass rush just dominated. How many sacks does Will
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: Anderson have right now? No, seven and a half. He's
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: a monster. Clowney, he's banged up. Where's the Neil Hunter? Three.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: I guess between the two of them, they got over ten.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: William Anderson's a fucking monster. Okay, so yeah. You would
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: assume the defense will get a little better, but it
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: definitely looks a little off. Okay, last two questions about Arch.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: To comment here that maybe there is a talent identification problem.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: Would love your thoughts on the podcast. So the past
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: six number one high school quarterbacks have been rough. We'll
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: start in 21. Quinn Ewers, seventh round pick. 22, Drew Aller,
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: third round pick. Obviously pretty underwhelming for the hype. 23, Arch. 24,
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: DJ Lagway. 25, Bryce Underwood, benched. 26, Faison Brandon also benched.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: And Lagway transferred. Arch Manning equals Arch Manning. I just
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: think the quarterback position, we just talked about it. Brock
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: Purdy was the last pick in the seventh round. Dak
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: Prescott and Kirk Cousins didn't sniff the first round. Lamar
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: Jackson got passed by every team in the league. Like,
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: no one knows. Cam Ward went number one overall. by
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: a guy that had just been around Patrick Mahomes. I
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: just think the position is so hard to play that
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: identifying that... Bill Walsh drafted Gio Carmazzi over Tom Brady. Now,
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: Tom Brady wouldn't have been his type quarterback because he
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: liked mobile quarterbacks, but again, regardless. I just think that
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: drafting NFL quarterbacks is hard. Imagine trying to identify guys
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: in high school. We see it all the time. I mean,
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: every year some of these top guys are like Jackson Arnold,
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: or you just go through, you see Dylan Raiola. It
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: is really, really difficult. Because in high school, you are
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: just so much better and so far superior to basically
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: everyone you're playing against. If you live in a town,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: even if it's a big city like Dallas or Los Angeles,
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: if there are a couple top-end quarterbacks, like this guy's
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: going to Texas or this guy's going to Ohio State
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: or this guy's going to Alabama, everyone knows this is
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: the best quarterback in the area, regardless of the size
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: of the city. And they usually come from Los Angeles,
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: Texas area, Florida area, Georgia area, right? Occasionally Arizona, Northern California.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: But if you are a quarterback, I think there's a
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: quarterback at in Folsom in Sacramento that's going to Ole Miss.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's the modern day guy. I'm not as dialed
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: in to recruiting. My point is, that guy's the best
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: player every time he steps on the field in high school.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: Him or his teammate that is also going to the SEC.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: And then you get to college and you get to wherever,
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: you're then playing other elite teams with other elite players
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: who have also been in the program for several years. So,
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I don't think it's ever
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: going to change. I really don't. I also think it's
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: a good life lesson. Like, it ain't about where you start.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: It really isn't. And I think a lot of people
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: get obsessed with, you know, this guy started ahead of
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: me or this guy was more highly viewed than me.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: It's like, well, prove them wrong. And now with the
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: transfer portal as a player, you have every chance to
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: prove everybody wrong. We'll end on this. There is no
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: bleeping way that Arch is a high pick. He flashes,
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: but I mean, he's almost the equivalent of an ugly
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: chick who looks good at weddings. You're the scout, so
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: obviously we'll defer to you, but after four years in
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: the same program with that much continuity and a loaded roster,
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: He feels like he has a little to no feel
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: for the position. If you're a pro team money and
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: brand aside, when do you draft them? Like to me,
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: he'd be a third day pick based on what I saw.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: Maybe you could justify it based on last year. Like
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: drew Aller is a good example. A guy like that
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: went in the third round, but to me, I I'm
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: not using third round picks on crazy project quarterbacks who
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: have not been good in college. Um, To me, it
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: would be after the second day of the draft. So
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: you're talking Saturday morning, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh round. And
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: to me, if you're doing flyers, I'm talking more like fifth, sixth, seventh.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: If you just remove the name, if his name was
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: Arch Middlecoff or Ray, you know, I guess Manning would
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: still be his last name, but he's not Arch Manning.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: He's Billy Manning, not related. I mean, you're talking about
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: a late round pick based on size, right? Athleticism and
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: you know, ability to throw the ball far, but not accurate,
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: doesn't see it. And I, listen, he would take, we
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: talked about this last week, he would take this crap
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: no matter what, he's the starting quarterback at Texas. $ 50
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: million roster, where they were thinking like, win the national championship.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: But it is not going well. There is no rhythm
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: to the offense. In my, like, I think you could
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: just cut it down to very simple terms. If you
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: are a high-end NFL player, You have stretches in your
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: college career where you are dominating. You look back at
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. Look how many games they were winning at
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: Mississippi State. I bet if we dove back in, he
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: played a big role in that. Let's look at Kirk Cousins.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: Didn't Michigan State just go on one of the best
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: several-year runs in the history of the program when he
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: was there? Now, there's no guarantee all these guys have
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: their flaws, but they were playing at a really, really
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: high level. And Trinidad is a good example. It's like,
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: you just watch him, you go, this guy dominates. And
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: then you watch other guys, you're like, ah, something's missing.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: Something's just not there. Which is, I would say, most guys.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: And there's nothing wrong with that. And young players like
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: Keelan Russell. Rough start to Georgia settled down played better
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: in the second half Tennessee terrible well yeah it's freshman
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: true freshman year I guess redshirt freshman year on the
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: road tough I would say the expectation next year for
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: him would be way higher and if he's still having
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: those issues you go yeah maybe he's just not as
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: good as we thought You get a little grace as
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: a younger player. But then by the second you're starting,
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: the expectations are higher. You've seen it. You've played these guys.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: You've played these coaches. You should have some understanding if
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: you are a big-time talent. And Keelan Russell's a redshirt freshman.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: Arch is a redshirt junior. Been around football forever. He's
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: compared to his uncles, which is not fair. Because he's
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: not those guys. Not even close. Adios. The Volume