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Chuck & Buck 12-1 Hour 4: MMQB with Mike Holmgren and Hugh Millen · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Now the Monday morning Quarterback with Mike hom Grin and
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Speaker 1: Hugh Millin.
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Speaker 2: Here's Chuck and Buck.
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Speaker 3: Nine o'clock hour here on this Monday. That's right, Ashley, Ryan,
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Speaker 3: Bucky Jacobs a Chuck pal Back together here on this
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Speaker 3: Monday morning. And of course we've got our pillars of analysis.
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Speaker 3: Hugh Mellan's been with us since eight o'clock this morning
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Speaker 3: and joining us now in studio. Mike Holmgren is with
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Speaker 3: us as well. Good morning, Coach.
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Speaker 2: Good morning, good morning, good to see you.
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Speaker 3: How is Thanksgiving? Did you carve the big Swedish meatball
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Speaker 3: for the family?
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Speaker 1: No?
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Speaker 4: No, you see, once again, you're confusing, Oh, Thanksgiving with Christmas.
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Speaker 2: Okay, he does confuse those. Well, he doesn't have a
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Speaker 2: bright there's no bright line. There's no bright line.
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Speaker 4: The Christmas tree meatballs are Christmas meatballs and cold dumber,
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Speaker 4: a lot of Swedish things. Okay, all right, turkey, So
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Speaker 4: the turkey was good.
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Speaker 3: Turkey Closs told me that no.
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Speaker 5: See it's not turkey class. See, Coach been uncoachable. Uncoachable
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Speaker 5: you know what. He leaves for a while and he
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Speaker 5: gets all messed up. We got to bring you back
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Speaker 5: into the fold.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I open our first Christmas present day and it was toughing.
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Speaker 3: So you're right, I am crossing streets.
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Speaker 4: Just so, just so you know, just so you know,
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Speaker 4: and you know, I know you take notes, and you're
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Speaker 4: you know all that take some notes. Thanksgiving was wonderful.
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Speaker 4: The next day, my bad foot and all. Kathy took
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Speaker 4: me over to our storage unit. I got all the trees,
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Speaker 4: all the things and we've put up the tree, and
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Speaker 4: the next day Friday, Okay, that's the timing.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, right.
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Speaker 5: Day after Thanksgiving when you start getting ready, and then
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Speaker 5: Friday and Saturday then you start throwing the meatballs.
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Speaker 2: You start all that kind of stuff.
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Speaker 4: Okay, not before all right, but that's fallen on deaf
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Speaker 4: ears for the last what five years.
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Speaker 2: Trying to throwing the meatballs. Okay, got it, got it,
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Speaker 2: got it, got it last all right.
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Speaker 3: Well, we've got a twenty nothing football game to just
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Speaker 3: dist to talk about Christmas.
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Speaker 2: You know, that was a game.
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Speaker 4: I'm watching that game and it's like it's it's hurting me.
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Speaker 4: It's hurting me to watch it.
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Speaker 3: But that's Mike McDonald's Christmas though. I mean, you tell
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Speaker 3: me a defensive minded head coach posting a shutout what
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Speaker 3: that does to a guy like Mike McDonald.
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Speaker 4: You know he is he is, although as tough as
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Speaker 4: he is on himself, Uh, he's still gonna bang it
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Speaker 4: around a little bit. But a shutout, Yeah, that's that's unbelievable.
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Speaker 4: And he's a defensive guy, and it's he has to
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Speaker 4: feel good about that and where the team is right now.
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Speaker 4: You know, I always stayed away from looking ahead. But
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Speaker 4: I'm now I can look ahead, and I'm looking at
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Speaker 4: They've got Atlanta coming up, they got you know, Indianapolis,
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Speaker 4: I think coming up, yes, and that they're they're kind
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Speaker 4: of I don't know what's happening with them, but it
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Speaker 4: all boils down to this. Seems like the Rams game
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Speaker 4: on Thursday night, you know, and and it's kind of
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Speaker 4: that's kind of cool. The division is strong, the forty
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Speaker 4: nine ers are still in it. But yesterday, I don't
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Speaker 4: I don't know. I should listen to you. He broke
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Speaker 4: it down and knows all the stuff that's going on.
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Speaker 4: I just watched the game and then boy it was hard.
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Speaker 6: Well, Mike, we'd have to also mention Carolina after the
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Speaker 6: RAM game. That could be a track game, right, I
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Speaker 6: mean they just beat the Rams, you know, Between the
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Speaker 6: forty nine Er game and that RAM game on November eighteenth,
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Speaker 6: Carolina could be a challenge. But you mentioned obviously Mike
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Speaker 6: McDonald feeling really good. The whine or the vodka or
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Speaker 6: whatever is his beverage on a Sunday night after the
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Speaker 6: game tastes a little better because his defense was so
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Speaker 6: essential to the win. What if you had been the
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Speaker 6: head coach last night, and you had coached what you
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Speaker 6: saw unbelievable performance by your defense against Ricky quarterback. But
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Speaker 6: then you saw what you saw, what you said, they
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Speaker 6: made your eyes bleed. If you saw what you saw,
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Speaker 6: what would be your takeaway last night is you were
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Speaker 6: drinking the wine.
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Speaker 4: Well, I think, as Chuck pointed out, it's a shutout,
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Speaker 4: and you shut out anybody in this league, you should
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Speaker 4: That's okay. You can have the you can have a
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Speaker 4: glass of wine. Really, Having said that, however, that poor
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Speaker 4: young guy who played quarterback, they didn't have a chance.
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Speaker 2: There was no chance.
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Speaker 4: So the only way they were staying in the game,
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Speaker 4: they stayed in the game early because their defense. Actually
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Speaker 4: Minnesota put gave the Seahawks some problems early with their defense.
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Speaker 4: And then you know, I don't know I'm speculating here,
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Speaker 4: but I'm watching Jefferson, I'm watching some of these guys.
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Speaker 4: I'm watching their head coach on television as the game's progressing,
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Speaker 4: and it was like they said they knew, they knew
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Speaker 4: they couldn't do anything, and that that if I was
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Speaker 4: the coach of the that would bother me, that would
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Speaker 4: really bother me. And and you know, but I think
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Speaker 4: I think early on it was you know, it was
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Speaker 4: a defensive game, was going to be a defensive game,
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Speaker 4: and then that crazy interception, and then then after that
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Speaker 4: it was over.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, as difference between getting beaten and getting broken. And
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Speaker 5: it did look like I mean, justin Justin Jefferson looks broken,
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Speaker 5: just like man, I, yeah, understand me. So you're one
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Speaker 5: of the best receivers and you just can't get anything together,
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Speaker 5: and one of the better coaches out there and can't
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Speaker 5: get anything going right either. But I mean, I have
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Speaker 5: something I actually want to ask coach, and then Hugh,
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Speaker 5: you can chime into being a quarterback. A lot of
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Speaker 5: concern about the turnovers and and the fumbles from Sam
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Speaker 5: Darnold right that people just constantly are going to be
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Speaker 5: concerned about that. Obviously, taking care of the ball is important,
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Speaker 5: but there's got to be some sort of just cost
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Speaker 5: of doing business right where you're gonna from time to
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Speaker 5: time a big dude's gonna smack you when you're didn't
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Speaker 5: see it coming, and you're gonna cough the ball up.
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Speaker 5: So do you have a bunch of concern about him?
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Speaker 5: You know, the fumbles because you're right early on in
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Speaker 5: the game before that bad pick six. That fumble put
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Speaker 5: them right in scoring position. You could have been down,
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Speaker 5: and who knows how the game unfolds. I assume it
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Speaker 5: still turns out in seahawks favor, but who knows.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you you're right, Buck. You know, sometimes
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Speaker 4: the quarterback, he is not his fault. I mean, you know,
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Speaker 4: he gets hit from behind, the ball gets stripped out.
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Speaker 4: That stuff happens. If you play the position, that stuff happens.
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Speaker 4: I think in Sam's case, you asked me if I'm concerned,
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Speaker 4: I'm rather not concerned. I think he does too many
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Speaker 4: good things. But there are times I think when he,
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Speaker 4: you know, live for another day, you're in trouble, you're
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Speaker 4: getting squeezed. Put the ball away, put the ball away,
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Speaker 4: take the sack. If you go, you know, you don't
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Speaker 4: fumbl the ball. I think sometimes he's in the effort
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Speaker 4: to make plays, which is an admirable thing, you know,
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Speaker 4: but an effort to make plays sometimes not always, but
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Speaker 4: sometimes it allows the opponent to maybe get closer to
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Speaker 4: him than and get to get the turnover.
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Speaker 6: Yep, Mike, I feel like all fumbles are not the same,
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Speaker 6: and and let's just think of it. In three categories
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Speaker 6: or all think of it in three categories, and you
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Speaker 6: tell me if I'm missing something. So let's let's say
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Speaker 6: a running back. A running back has got to run
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Speaker 6: once he gets that ball. He's got to run with
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Speaker 6: five points of pressure right high and tight. You know,
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Speaker 6: his chest, his bicep, forearm, and then the thumb side
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Speaker 6: and the and the and the pinky, you know, the
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Speaker 6: two sides of his hand. Five points of pressure.
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Speaker 2: And if he.
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Speaker 6: Fumbles, which is going to happen, there's never going to
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Speaker 6: be a running back that's going to go his whole
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Speaker 6: career or rarely without a fumble. But you don't want
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Speaker 6: that to happen very often. But we have a certain
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Speaker 6: standard for how he holds the ball. Uh that then
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Speaker 6: you have a quarterback in the pocket who has not
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Speaker 6: yet begun to throw. He's got both hands on the ball,
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Speaker 6: he's looking obviously down the field. He's not going to
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Speaker 6: have that balls as cured as a running back would.
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Speaker 6: And then the third type would be the quarterback is
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Speaker 6: in the process of throwing, his hands have separated, only
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Speaker 6: his right hands on the ball and if he gets
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Speaker 6: hit from behind that that ball is gonna come out
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Speaker 6: very easily. Yesterday, Sam Darnold had two fumbles that were
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Speaker 6: in the middle category. He wasn't yet throwing, he would
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Speaker 6: have both hands on the ball. So we have, at
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Speaker 6: least as I've been coached, and I'm sure you coach,
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Speaker 6: you know, like hey, two hands on the ball. Let's
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Speaker 6: let's uh, there is a little bit of a higher
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Speaker 6: standard for a quarterback's fumble in that regard what we
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Speaker 6: saw yesterday.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's fair. I absolutely think it's fair.
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Speaker 4: And that's that's the one thing you would talk to
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Speaker 4: him about those types of things, and also set up drills.
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Speaker 4: You know, if you're seeing it, if you're seeing it
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Speaker 4: happen more than you think it should on that type
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Speaker 4: of fumble, then set up drills where you, okay, let's
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Speaker 4: just emphasize this a little bit. How you feel about this,
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Speaker 4: you're banging it, you know, those drills you and so
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Speaker 4: you know, he then all of a sudden in his mind,
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Speaker 4: you know, when it comes to that situation, he's a
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Speaker 4: little bit more programmed, you know, to handle the ball properly.
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Speaker 3: I think if somebody that's not watching this team play,
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Speaker 3: and there are a lot of people that are commenting
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Speaker 3: on the Seahawks during the game during the course of
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Speaker 3: the week, and they look up, Okay, what do I
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Speaker 3: need to know about the Seahawks, And Okay, they do
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Speaker 3: this really well, statistics say, and then these statistics and
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Speaker 3: they will circle the turnover thing, and certainly you want
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Speaker 3: to clean it up. But I liked what Greg Olsen
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Speaker 3: said about it last night. It's like, yes, you want
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Speaker 3: to fix your turnover issue. You have too many turnovers
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Speaker 3: this year, But I don't want it to take away
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Speaker 3: from the team's aggression, which has been part of their
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Speaker 3: success so far this year. I feel that's the way
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Speaker 3: Mike McDonald feels about his own team. I don't think
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Speaker 3: he feels like he has a turnover issue right now,
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Speaker 3: even though a stat sheet might suggest that the team.
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Speaker 4: I think that's a good point, Chuck, I really do.
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Speaker 4: I think, however, you know that in this business, and
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Speaker 4: you can go and look at most games during the
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Speaker 4: week on most teams, that the game can be decided
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Speaker 4: and often is by the turnover thing. It is so,
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Speaker 4: but they've overcome that and it has not been a
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Speaker 4: problem at their nine to three and they're leading the
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Speaker 4: division and I think they're going to be there. But
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Speaker 4: they have to. You're right, people kind of overdo that
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Speaker 4: just a little bit. It has not black and white. No,
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Speaker 4: the only time the thing they they refer to the
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Speaker 4: Ram game. That's the thing that kind of sits in
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Speaker 4: their mind because he had the four picks. It was
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Speaker 4: a close game and that was kind of the deciding
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Speaker 4: factor in that game.
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Speaker 2: I think we all agree to that.
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Speaker 4: But generally speaking, it hasn't even though the ball has
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Speaker 4: been on the ground a little bit, it hasn't hurt
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Speaker 4: him too much this year.
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Speaker 6: Well, and he has said, we all know Sam Donald
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Speaker 6: lost that Ram game, and that's just the nature of
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Speaker 6: playing that position, Mike, right, is that if you play
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Speaker 6: that poorly those turnovers, you're gonna say the quarterback lost
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Speaker 6: the game. Sam Donald certainly says that. But you know,
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Speaker 6: now what I'm what I'm about to say is not
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Speaker 6: up to date from this weekend. This is Friday. Going
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Speaker 6: into the weekend, Sam Donald was on a pace the
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Speaker 6: turnover worthy plays as judged by Pro Football Focus. He
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Speaker 6: was on a pace for eighteen and a half Pat
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Speaker 6: mahomes because he had twelve Pat mahomes at sixteen. He
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Speaker 6: was on a pace for twenty five in Pat Mahomes' career,
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Speaker 6: he has had the fallowing fifteen twenty one, eighteen twenty two,
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Speaker 6: fourteen twenty two, an average of nineteen point nine. Let's
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Speaker 6: round nineteen nine to twenty. He's averaged twenty turnover worthy
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Speaker 6: plays per season. This is judged to be the best
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Speaker 6: quarterback of an entire generation, maybe all time, and he
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Speaker 6: averages twenty a year. Sam Donald was on a pace
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Speaker 6: for eighteen and a half. So and Donald was number
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Speaker 6: one in big time throws and break big time throw rate.
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Speaker 6: So somewhere, Mike might hell, I don't have to quote
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Speaker 6: these guys.
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Speaker 2: You had.
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Speaker 6: Brett Farber's a three time MVP who threw his share
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Speaker 6: of interceptions, but he gave you so Doug on many
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Speaker 6: big plays and those you know, ripping balls in the
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Speaker 6: red zone into seams that nobody else can throw to
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Speaker 6: to get touchdowns. For you just talk to us and
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Speaker 6: amplify your thoughts on Hey, I've got a guy. Yes,
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Speaker 6: I wish he had fewer turnovers, but by golly, he's
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Speaker 6: producing a lot of big plays. I don't want to
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Speaker 6: neuter that out of him. Where do you find that
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Speaker 6: balance where you feel like it's okay?
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Speaker 4: Well, first of all I want to say, it was
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Speaker 4: fake news. Brett Favre did not turn the ball over,
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Speaker 4: He did not throw interceptions, and I coached.
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Speaker 2: Him out of that. Damn, maybe you did. That is true.
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Speaker 4: I think I'm getting older and I forget some of
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Speaker 4: that stuff, you know.
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Speaker 2: But no, you're you guys are right.
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Speaker 4: I mean, you you got a star quarterback, or you
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Speaker 4: get a guy who can really play and win games
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Speaker 4: for you. Then and then, but then the turnovers take place.
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Speaker 4: What you have to prevent or try to prevent, or
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Speaker 4: try and coach. Are the are the poor decisions really
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Speaker 4: poor decisions, you know, and that lead to turnovers? And Brett, certainly,
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Speaker 4: I'll use Brett as example. Early in his career, you know,
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Speaker 4: he would take chances and do crazy stuff, stuff I
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Speaker 4: hadn't seen before, you know. And then a little like
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Speaker 4: a little like that first interception last night yesterday, you know,
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Speaker 4: trying to get what are you doing about the ball?
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Speaker 3: Why did you talk about the Vikings quarterback?
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Speaker 2: Why did you do that?
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Speaker 3: You didn't coach that? Ever on the side arm falling,
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Speaker 3: I have interception, the double coverage.
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Speaker 4: I prefer the underhand when he's got one knee on
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Speaker 4: the ground. But no, I saw it all, and you
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Speaker 4: you're right, don't take that away. Don't take the explosive,
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Speaker 4: great play away from him. But in Bret's case, I'll
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Speaker 4: use him again as example. All of a sudden he
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Speaker 4: reached a point where that didn't happen quite so much anymore.
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Speaker 4: He understood, and he was willing to curb some of
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Speaker 4: his enthusiasm, as the saying goes. And then, of course,
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Speaker 4: then I came to Seattle, and then I didn't have him.
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Speaker 4: I tell Mike Sherman and the guys that had bread afterwards,
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Speaker 4: I said, I went through the growing pains with him.
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Speaker 4: You had the good stuff, you know, so, but I
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Speaker 4: think quarterback, you know, you know this better anybody.
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Speaker 2: You learn that.
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Speaker 4: Stuff and you mature, and you Joe Montana in my
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Speaker 4: last year with him, you know, he had one of
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Speaker 4: the great seasons he'd ever had, and he had a
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Speaker 4: lot of great seasons. And it was so different because
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Speaker 4: he rarely, rarely took a chance and made a poor decision.
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Speaker 4: But of course he played a long time and he's
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Speaker 4: a special player. But heck, mahomes, we'd all like to,
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Speaker 4: you know, everyone like to have mahomes. Yeah, you know,
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Speaker 4: and so I think Sam's a good player, and I
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Speaker 4: think I'll take what he's doing this year for sure.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: I mean, yesterday they were talking on the broadcast how
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Speaker 5: no of the team is committing to the run or
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Speaker 5: I don't don't think that's the way that they said it.
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Speaker 5: But they're handing the ball off more than most teams are.
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Speaker 5: All the other teams are out there, and then they're
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Speaker 5: taking shots over the top. So to me, it would
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Speaker 5: just seem like that's the recipe that they want to have,
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Speaker 5: is we're going to hand the ball, make you respect
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Speaker 5: the run, and then we're gonna take shots downfield. That
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Speaker 5: means that there's gonna be chances there's gonna be times
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Speaker 5: that you get to our quarterback it turns into a fumble.
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Speaker 5: There's gonna be times when we're trying to make big
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Speaker 5: explosive plays that you end up picking balls off. So
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Speaker 5: if that recipe is what your recipe would be, you
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Speaker 5: like that whole thing, because they also took away those
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Speaker 5: big plays yesterday. But at the same time, I don't
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Speaker 5: know if that's that they took it away. Did it
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Speaker 5: look to you like they took the Jackson Smith and
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Speaker 5: jig But for example, out of the equation or was
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Speaker 5: it the score once they started realizing we're up, you know,
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Speaker 5: thirteen points. We're not going to give up thirteen points
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Speaker 5: to this team, and so we're not going to try
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Speaker 5: to do those big plays anymore. That's that's the question
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Speaker 5: of the day. I I and then you know, I
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Speaker 5: gave you that assignment over the weekend. M H and
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Speaker 5: Jackson's Smith and Jigmut. I was thinking during the game,
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Speaker 5: you know what, I don't know exactly what they're doing
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Speaker 5: in the secondary or how they're doing this, but he's
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Speaker 5: not getting the ball and that's the first time, that's
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Speaker 5: the first time all year. So what were they doing differently?
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Speaker 5: And I think maybe maybe some of that factored in
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Speaker 5: Buck that they they said, there's no way this team
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Speaker 5: can score points on us, or enough points, and we're
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Speaker 5: gonna just tone it down a little bit.
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Speaker 4: Maybe they did that. But both charmon Ay and Walker
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Speaker 4: I think contributed a lot. Neither team passed the ball
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Speaker 4: very well. You know, they had yard the yardage there
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Speaker 4: passing was was not good for either team, you know,
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Speaker 4: and so, uh, it was a it was a crazy
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Speaker 4: game with the penalties and and the and the you know,
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Speaker 4: the turnovers. It just wasn't that much fun to I'm
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Speaker 4: happy for the Seahawks, but it was different.
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Speaker 6: Now, Mike, you did give me the homework assignment I got.
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Speaker 6: I've got some data.
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Speaker 4: Know if you if you couldn't get it done, don't
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Speaker 4: be like my when I told when I told my
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Speaker 4: chemistry teacher in high school, I I did, but I
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Speaker 4: left my thing at home.
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Speaker 2: You know, I'm looking right at it.
18:44
Speaker 6: You know I didn't delegate it. No, this is this
18:46
Speaker 6: is just me, uh looking at the coach's tape of
18:50
Speaker 6: all the plays, and I'm gonna now, I'm gonna go
18:53
Speaker 6: back and and add the passer rating.
18:55
Speaker 2: I was. I was.
18:56
Speaker 6: I was traveling for the holidays. I was in Florida.
18:59
Speaker 6: My son was a senior senior game for the Gators.
19:04
Speaker 6: I was at the Florida Florida State game and traveling.
19:06
Speaker 6: So I didn't meet my own standards. But right now,
19:11
Speaker 6: free access for JSN. He gets free access forty four
19:15
Speaker 6: percent of the time. Mike rolled covers twenty seven percent
19:20
Speaker 6: of time press so that it's man but uh, no
19:24
Speaker 6: safety over the top, but no no free access. You know,
19:27
Speaker 6: obviously he's got to get off the bump. And run
19:29
Speaker 6: guys twenty nine percent of the time. I'll give you
19:33
Speaker 6: more detail, but there's almost half the time he's getting
19:37
Speaker 6: free access. Yesterday specifically, yeah they rolled on him, but
19:41
Speaker 6: you know what, there was a couple occasions where they
19:45
Speaker 6: they actually rolled on Cooper Cup just because of formation
19:50
Speaker 6: and the field and boundary and what have you, and
19:53
Speaker 6: they had free access to JSN. There was a time
19:56
Speaker 6: where where I think McDonald Sam Darnold has been good
20:03
Speaker 6: this year at using his eyes, so Mike, the the
20:06
Speaker 6: Vikings had a ton of zone blitzes where they they're
20:10
Speaker 6: playing three deep on his zone zone blitz and sometimes
20:14
Speaker 6: even two under they're playing quarter quarter half with his
20:17
Speaker 6: zone blitz, rushing five and playing uh with just six
20:22
Speaker 6: and a lot of times they would squeeze to j
20:25
Speaker 6: s N and and and But I didn't think Donald
20:28
Speaker 6: used his eyes as well because I felt like he
20:31
Speaker 6: felt like the uh, the uh, his time clock was
20:36
Speaker 6: going off. There was a time, for example, where where
20:39
Speaker 6: he could have waited on jas N on an intermediate
20:41
Speaker 6: inbreaking route, but he in in weeks past he's done
20:45
Speaker 6: that with his eyes, just manipulate that shallow defender and
20:49
Speaker 6: then throw in behind him. He didn't do that. As
20:51
Speaker 6: we said, there was times where you know, on a
20:53
Speaker 6: double on a lion mic on double slant, Uh, he
20:56
Speaker 6: should have gone to J s N. So I think
20:58
Speaker 6: I think there's I got three are four minuses on
21:01
Speaker 6: on Sam Darnold on where he chose to go with
21:04
Speaker 6: the ball, and a couple of those involved js N.
21:08
Speaker 4: You know, it kind of goes back to what we
21:09
Speaker 4: were talking about before, maybe that he's in that game.
21:14
Speaker 4: Sam's in that game and he's just everyone watching the
21:18
Speaker 4: game or feeling on the field. They're not gonna score
21:22
Speaker 4: very much, if at all. So I'm not gonna screw
21:25
Speaker 4: this up. I'm I'm gonna approach it. Maybe a little
21:30
Speaker 4: bit different, uh, you know than some of the some
21:34
Speaker 4: of the other games. I don't know that, but that
21:37
Speaker 4: could have been part of it, you know, because he
21:39
Speaker 4: has been good with his eyes and his decision making
21:43
Speaker 4: most of the time. Four minuses that's not good.
21:46
Speaker 2: That's not good.
21:49
Speaker 6: No, I mean it depends on I mean not double minuses.
21:53
Speaker 6: It just when I when I have a minus there,
21:55
Speaker 6: I'm saying, if if I can envision myself in that
21:58
Speaker 6: quarterback coaching room and Mike Holmgan or or whoever's the
22:03
Speaker 6: quarterback coach. He would say, Okay, did we throw it
22:06
Speaker 6: to the right guy? And I've got I got three,
22:10
Speaker 6: And then you could debate the four three where I
22:12
Speaker 6: thought the ball should have gone somewhere else based on
22:15
Speaker 6: the read.
22:15
Speaker 3: Well, it probably didn't help that he was wearing Dallas
22:17
Speaker 3: Turner like a petticoat and Jonathan Grenard like a chest plate.
22:22
Speaker 7: You know.
22:23
Speaker 2: So I mean, yeah, all right, we're.
22:26
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Speaker 2: See enough for you to Seattle.
22:48
Speaker 6: Second and six for the Seahawks, sharpening again over the
22:52
Speaker 6: left side breaks the tackle got up three touchdown, first
22:56
Speaker 6: one of the day for the Seahawks offense.
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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, one touchdown for the offense. Even though it
23:03
Speaker 3: was a bit of a laugher of a game, it
23:04
Speaker 3: felt decided early on twenty six to nothing, the final score.
23:08
Speaker 3: Certainly some accolades still to throw out about the defensive performance,
23:12
Speaker 3: but we really didn't sink our teeth into the pass protection. Coach,
23:15
Speaker 3: I felt like that was the worst Sam Darnold has
23:19
Speaker 3: been protected by far this year, and Anthony Bradford continues
23:25
Speaker 3: to struggle. Should Mike McDonald be alarmed by this or
23:29
Speaker 3: do you give credit to the Vikings defense?
23:30
Speaker 4: No, I think the Vikings did a nice job that way,
23:33
Speaker 4: and they did pressure, but certainly you have to be alarmed,
23:37
Speaker 4: not alarmed, but you have to if it has to
23:40
Speaker 4: be addressed, has to be addressed, absolutely, and it's if
23:45
Speaker 4: they want to go all the way, which I think
23:46
Speaker 4: they have a chance to go all the way, then
23:49
Speaker 4: that's an area that teams now will watch look at
23:52
Speaker 4: that game and to come away from that, they were
23:55
Speaker 4: able to pressure early on in particular, well the whole
23:59
Speaker 4: game actually they put pretty good pressure and then as
24:02
Speaker 4: Bucky pointed out earlier, then the Seahawks went to running
24:05
Speaker 4: the ball more in the second half and because the
24:08
Speaker 4: game was essentially over, But no, you got you have
24:11
Speaker 4: got to address that. You know, they've had a couple
24:14
Speaker 4: of injuries in there. I don't know if that's affected play,
24:18
Speaker 4: but the farther you get along and closer to the
24:21
Speaker 4: playoffs and the Super Bowl and so on. It's something
24:24
Speaker 4: you have to look at.
24:26
Speaker 6: Mike count when you encountered teams like that that like
24:31
Speaker 6: to put everybody up at the line of scrimmage. You know,
24:35
Speaker 6: they played a lot of three four and so they've
24:39
Speaker 6: got linebackers, you know, seven across the boards, defensive line
24:44
Speaker 6: and linebackers. Any and any of those linebackers can pop
24:47
Speaker 6: out threaten the rush. That whole idea of mugging up.
24:51
Speaker 6: What was your favorite remedy for teams that like to
24:55
Speaker 6: do that When they're playing the zone behind it, but
24:58
Speaker 6: they're showing pre snap everybody at the line of scrimmage,
25:02
Speaker 6: you don't quite know who's coming.
25:04
Speaker 4: Well, I think you got to get the ball out
25:05
Speaker 4: of your hand quickly because that area between the linebackers
25:09
Speaker 4: and like you said, the secondary who are playing a
25:12
Speaker 4: little bit deeper, Okay, there's more room there, and so play.
25:16
Speaker 4: The other thing is play action pass. If those linebackers
25:19
Speaker 4: are mugging and then getting into pass coverage at some
25:23
Speaker 4: point trying to fake you out, but you run like
25:26
Speaker 4: a running running play right at them. They're they're a
25:30
Speaker 4: little bit stuck in that area. Now there's again room
25:33
Speaker 4: behind them to throw the ball. So you know it's
25:36
Speaker 4: but it's it's a challenge. I mean for the for
25:39
Speaker 4: the quarterback and for the offensive cause it's you got
25:42
Speaker 4: to make sure your inside is covered and if anyone's
25:45
Speaker 4: going to be unblocked, it's going to be the outside guy.
25:48
Speaker 4: Your back has to understand if he's got pass protection,
25:50
Speaker 4: pickup how he asked to go from one to two,
25:53
Speaker 4: those types of things. And yesterday, Uh, the rushers, they
25:58
Speaker 4: they couldn't they couldn't handle a couple number fifty five
26:02
Speaker 4: for Minnesota.
26:02
Speaker 2: Grenard. Yeah, yeah, he was.
26:04
Speaker 4: He was pretty impressive to me, and they had a
26:06
Speaker 4: tough time blocking him.
26:09
Speaker 3: Or maybe that was Wilson. It was Wilson. Wilson, Yeah,
26:12
Speaker 3: he had four tackles. Yeah, Wilson had a big game.
26:15
Speaker 5: Well I'm not sure if that's who it was, but
26:17
Speaker 5: he probably was one of the guys that was going
26:19
Speaker 5: by Anthony Bradford. I love listening to you when I
26:23
Speaker 5: get to talk to you a couple times a week,
26:24
Speaker 5: and Hugh, you guys break stuff down and you'll get
26:28
Speaker 5: me to start looking at different things. And yet when
26:30
Speaker 5: I just watch a game, there's there's some things that
26:33
Speaker 5: I'm like, WHOA, I can't wait to hear what coach
26:35
Speaker 5: and Hugh have to say about that. There's one thing
26:37
Speaker 5: that I think anybody can see, and that's Bradford. I mean,
26:40
Speaker 5: I don't know for sure what you would say to
26:42
Speaker 5: a guy like that, or if it just is an
26:44
Speaker 5: indictment on who is behind him, because this has been
26:47
Speaker 5: your starter all year.
26:48
Speaker 2: I mean, they're trying to pull.
26:49
Speaker 5: Him and he runs to the end of the line
26:51
Speaker 5: and just doesn't even go after the guy that he's
26:54
Speaker 5: supposed to block. I assume or people are the pass
26:57
Speaker 5: rushing and he had one where like a guy went
26:59
Speaker 5: on side of him and another guy went on this
27:01
Speaker 5: side of like, well, can you.
27:02
Speaker 2: Just block one of them?
27:03
Speaker 5: We don't need to a block bowl, can you just
27:05
Speaker 5: do And it's like he was trying to block some
27:07
Speaker 5: imaginary person that was in front of him. Are you
27:09
Speaker 5: seeing the same thing as far as his play goes
27:12
Speaker 5: or am I just imagining?
27:13
Speaker 2: No? No, you're not imagining it.
27:15
Speaker 4: And the thing that the thing that I think everybody
27:18
Speaker 4: noticed in the game we're watching on tv UH is
27:22
Speaker 4: that when he was pulling from his right to his
27:24
Speaker 4: left and they were bringing an outside guy to that side.
27:30
Speaker 4: That's who he was supposed to block. And the guy's
27:33
Speaker 4: right there. If I'm pulling, and there shouldn't have any
27:36
Speaker 4: confusion here he comes, that's the guy, and he somehow,
27:39
Speaker 4: somehow he looked in it. Just you go, well, that
27:43
Speaker 4: can't happen, you know, and so and so they've had
27:47
Speaker 4: look at it. They've got they've been competing, you know.
27:51
Speaker 4: You hear that all the time. We compete all the time. Well,
27:54
Speaker 4: they've had since training camp, they've that position has been
27:58
Speaker 4: a competition, I think, you know.
28:00
Speaker 2: And so.
28:04
Speaker 4: You know, if someone is healthy and ready to play,
28:06
Speaker 4: give him a chance. Give him a chance, because you
28:10
Speaker 4: are going to be graded, you know, on on how
28:13
Speaker 4: you did in the game. If your grade is too
28:15
Speaker 4: low or it's not sufficient, then you know there's a
28:19
Speaker 4: chance you make the change. You don't want to do that.
28:21
Speaker 4: You want to keep your guys together. But if all
28:23
Speaker 4: of a sudden, if it's happening too much, no, absolutely
28:26
Speaker 4: you make a change.
28:27
Speaker 3: What's the old joke, if you're seeing double vision, hit
28:30
Speaker 3: the guy.
28:30
Speaker 2: In the middle, just hit one of them. Yeah.
28:35
Speaker 3: Please, let's I mean, let's talk a little bit about
28:38
Speaker 3: the defense. Feel like we maybe we should hand out
28:41
Speaker 3: a little bit of flowers here, And I would ask
28:43
Speaker 3: you both this question because I think that when we
28:46
Speaker 3: watched the game, just as you know football fans, that
28:51
Speaker 3: you see Ernest Jones fill up the stat sheet and
28:54
Speaker 3: you see DeMarcus Lawrence make the highlight plays yesterday. But
28:58
Speaker 3: there's got to be something through how you keep Justin
29:01
Speaker 3: Jefferson to two catches and four yards on six targets
29:04
Speaker 3: during the course of the game. So, either through Hughes,
29:08
Speaker 3: advanced film study, or just whatever popped out to you
29:12
Speaker 3: coach about who really did kind of stand out on
29:15
Speaker 3: that defensive side of the ball. Maybe it was Jones,
29:17
Speaker 3: maybe it was Lawrence, or maybe somebody else was the
29:20
Speaker 3: guy responsible for such a great defensive game.
29:23
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll let you comment on this. I'll just say
29:26
Speaker 4: that that they are They're getting a lot of activity
29:30
Speaker 4: from their four pass rushers the four defensive linemen. And
29:34
Speaker 4: when you can do that, then you can really fool
29:37
Speaker 4: around behind them and do a bunch of stuff and
29:40
Speaker 4: and they're they're good. And that's a credit to Mike
29:43
Speaker 4: and his defenses and what he's doing. But there are
29:46
Speaker 4: not a lot of teams I don't think they can
29:49
Speaker 4: apply that type of pressure with four people. Yeah, and
29:52
Speaker 4: then when they bring another one or they mix it
29:54
Speaker 4: up a little bit, they almost always get home against it.
29:58
Speaker 4: And then then then then you get the poor young quarterback.
30:02
Speaker 2: You know it just.
30:04
Speaker 4: What a game, What a game to break in, what
30:07
Speaker 4: a team to break in against. Yeah, and it was
30:10
Speaker 4: not going to happen. It was not going to be good.
30:13
Speaker 3: It looked like a port chopping a lion's day.
30:15
Speaker 2: Yeah.
30:16
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, you know, Mike, there was a few occasions
30:20
Speaker 6: where their role to justin Jefferson. I think one of
30:24
Speaker 6: the things Chuck and answered your question might and Mike
30:29
Speaker 6: certainly knows this. When you press, and that's a term
30:33
Speaker 6: bump and run, it's man and man. If you if
30:35
Speaker 6: you press a receiver a lot of the the playbook,
30:41
Speaker 6: it translates to a fade. A hits route will translate
30:45
Speaker 6: to a fade, A quick out route will translate to
30:47
Speaker 6: a skinny post, A twelve yard out route in some cases,
30:51
Speaker 6: depending on the split, will will convert to a to
30:55
Speaker 6: a fade route. So you the combination of when you
30:58
Speaker 6: just press a guy and you take away the quick
31:01
Speaker 6: game mic right then when you're having the pass rush
31:05
Speaker 6: that that the Seahawks were producing. That can really be
31:09
Speaker 6: a big problem. And then I lauded Josh Uh Josh
31:14
Speaker 6: Job on that interception that that Ernest Jones had, Mike,
31:18
Speaker 6: it was it was justin Jefferson.
31:21
Speaker 2: Was the X.
31:22
Speaker 6: It was an X in speed cut, not not a
31:24
Speaker 6: square but a speed in. And it was cover three.
31:27
Speaker 6: Corner was off single high guys. Uh and uh and
31:31
Speaker 6: and Josh Job was on the outside shoulder because of
31:34
Speaker 6: the split and and where the balls on the the
31:37
Speaker 6: near hals Mike, But I thought Josh Job had a
31:40
Speaker 6: textbook clinic tape drive on the football, get his hand up,
31:45
Speaker 6: pop the ball in the air. Ernest Jones gets the interception.
31:49
Speaker 6: That's got to be on paper as hard a duty
31:51
Speaker 6: as there is in for a cornerback in the NFL
31:54
Speaker 6: that man on that type of route in that coverage. Uh,
31:58
Speaker 6: it was not cover three, it was it was over one.
32:01
Speaker 6: Uh lurk with with Jones as the as the shallow
32:04
Speaker 6: hole player, Mike, that was a hell of play by Joe.
32:07
Speaker 2: You know what it was.
32:08
Speaker 4: And uh, you give credit where credit is due. Excuse
32:12
Speaker 4: me the but I will say this, if if I
32:16
Speaker 4: have Jefferson, you know, and I have a privilege to
32:20
Speaker 4: coach Jerry Rice and some of these guys. There is
32:24
Speaker 4: no way, there is no way I'm gonna quit if
32:29
Speaker 4: they hold my guy, that guy to what you say,
32:32
Speaker 4: chuck to catch your yards that you know. And then
32:36
Speaker 4: I was critical of Jefferson and his affect on the
32:40
Speaker 4: sidelines when he come over and sit on the on
32:43
Speaker 4: the on the bench and stuff. But I guess now
32:46
Speaker 4: that we're talking about it, I kind of feel I
32:51
Speaker 4: kind of feel for him because here's the acknowledge one
32:53
Speaker 4: of the finest receivers in the league, and it's inexcusable
32:58
Speaker 4: that they didn't have some thing they could pop him
33:01
Speaker 4: a little bit and get him some catches. I just
33:04
Speaker 4: think that I blame the offensive. I blame the offense
33:06
Speaker 4: on that well.
33:06
Speaker 3: And I don't know how much time you guys spent
33:08
Speaker 3: on this last week, but he also had to experience
33:11
Speaker 3: the looking across the sideline and seeing the quarterback he
33:15
Speaker 3: had last year, I know, playing for another team. I mean,
33:19
Speaker 3: they could have franchise tag Sam Donald last year and
33:22
Speaker 3: kept him around just to see if JJ McCarthy needed
33:25
Speaker 3: another year or so, and they decided not to do that.
33:29
Speaker 4: Well, you know what I did yesterday and shame on
33:31
Speaker 4: me for doing this. And if you want to kick
33:32
Speaker 4: me out, I will, I'll leave. When I saw that,
33:36
Speaker 4: and I'm thinking, okay, they had Daniel Jones and Sam
33:40
Speaker 4: Donald and they decided to do what they did, I'm going, okay,
33:45
Speaker 4: who's making that decision? So I looked up the Minnesota
33:49
Speaker 4: you know, front office and their general manager. I don't
33:52
Speaker 4: know him, he had been with the forty nine ers
33:53
Speaker 4: for a while. But then I look at his strengths.
33:57
Speaker 4: You know what his numbers one strength is and he's
33:59
Speaker 4: an expert at this analytics. As soon as I saw that,
34:04
Speaker 4: I threw my paper in the air, turned off my computer. Okay,
34:09
Speaker 4: it's like you and the officials. It's like you and
34:11
Speaker 4: the officials and analytics.
34:14
Speaker 2: Ye, he's an analytic herder.
34:17
Speaker 3: All right, One last segment with Coach and Hugh as
34:20
Speaker 3: we wrap up Monday Morning Quarterback next on kJ R.
34:32
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Speaker 3: do one last thing for coach. We go round the room.
34:46
Speaker 2: Bucky start us off.
34:47
Speaker 5: Well, we were just talking during the break a little
34:49
Speaker 5: bit about analytics and how wonderful they are.
34:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, none of us here are.
34:54
Speaker 5: Absolutely married to them, even though they are useful tools.
34:57
Speaker 3: I just wanted to ask. I slept with them the most.
35:00
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, They've courted them a lot, taking them out dinner.
35:04
Speaker 5: Yeah, you spend a lot of time, much bigger fan
35:07
Speaker 5: than the rest of us, or than coach.
35:09
Speaker 2: And I'll just say that.
35:10
Speaker 5: But one of those stats, and I don't understand how
35:12
Speaker 5: they come up with these, but I think it's just
35:14
Speaker 5: ranking and how you feel about them right now has
35:17
Speaker 5: basically the Rams is the highest percentage chance to win
35:20
Speaker 5: the Super Bowl at this point in time. Number two
35:21
Speaker 5: in the NFL is the Seahawks. Out of the entire NFL.
35:25
Speaker 5: I mean, they're better than any team that's in the
35:27
Speaker 5: AFC at this point. When you're watching this team, would
35:31
Speaker 5: you consider them because a lot of people will be like, yeah,
35:33
Speaker 5: and they I think they're better than the Rams based
35:35
Speaker 5: on the one time they've met, even though they lost.
35:38
Speaker 5: Would you say this is a one or two team
35:40
Speaker 5: to win the super Bowl at this.
35:41
Speaker 4: Point, I'm not ready to do that yet, because I
35:47
Speaker 4: think that's it's too a little too early premature. They
35:50
Speaker 4: still have to they still have to play the Rams,
35:51
Speaker 4: they still have to play the forty nine ers. But
35:55
Speaker 4: I think they'll be there. They'll be in the conversation
35:58
Speaker 4: in a couple of weeks for sure. Uh but I think,
36:02
Speaker 4: you know, and you know what, to those the people
36:04
Speaker 4: listening who and some who are analytic people, I apologize,
36:10
Speaker 4: I do, but I'm not with you.
36:13
Speaker 2: I'm not with you on that.
36:15
Speaker 5: So just know that, Coach, these guys, the people that
36:17
Speaker 5: came up with these percentages, they put their Christmas tree
36:20
Speaker 5: up before Thanksgiving.
36:22
Speaker 2: Okay, I rest my case. We are in the same group.
36:26
Speaker 4: But I know, I wait, Buck, But but you know what,
36:29
Speaker 4: I'm I'm on the bandwagon. I think they got a
36:33
Speaker 4: real shot to get there.
36:34
Speaker 3: Analytics by says like November eleventh and a half is
36:39
Speaker 3: okay time for.
36:41
Speaker 2: Christmas noon on November.
36:43
Speaker 4: Analytics those are guys that, yeah, right, get in the
36:47
Speaker 4: get in the thing and fly around the moon and
36:51
Speaker 4: you know, and drop the presence.
36:52
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, what's one last thing?
36:55
Speaker 6: Well, I have my beef with the analytics, but people
37:00
Speaker 6: foot seas with them but I've never gone in for
37:01
Speaker 6: that kiss. But you know, but my problem is that
37:08
Speaker 6: they somehow think that it's just fine to have part
37:12
Speaker 6: time officials and uh, and they like the toast post.
37:16
Speaker 6: So yeah, I got no time for them. But you know,
37:19
Speaker 6: I actually, Mike, the topic of the day in the
37:22
Speaker 6: football world is is Lane Kiffin his decisions on how
37:27
Speaker 6: he's handled that situation? Be curious to hear your take. Now,
37:33
Speaker 6: there's too many differences to enumerate, but but you've at
37:38
Speaker 6: least been in that situation in one sense, having been
37:42
Speaker 6: the packer coach at contemplating the idea of taking the
37:47
Speaker 6: Seahawk job. Uh, and and how that probably tuges on
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Speaker 6: you in a lot of different ways. Just just what
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Speaker 6: what is it like for a coach to be in
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Speaker 6: that situation? Nice to be wanted by multiple franchise and organizations,
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Speaker 6: but what's it like? And then, specifically regarding Lane Kiffen,
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Speaker 6: what's your reaction to what has transpired of the last
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Speaker 6: day or two.
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Speaker 4: Well, I, you know, I was in that situation, and
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Speaker 4: the people some of the folks in Green Bay, like
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Speaker 4: I'm assuming some of the folks in Mississippi were upset
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Speaker 4: with that he's leaving. And when I left, the decision
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Speaker 4: I had to make was the it was no longer
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Speaker 4: just a coach. I was working for a great guy
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Speaker 4: and Ron Wolf, but Seattle had a chance to I
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Speaker 4: had a chance to expand my what my responsibilities were.
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Speaker 4: And it also was my DNA to help it come
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Speaker 4: in and maybe what I learned about myself is to
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Speaker 4: come in and try and fix something that was a
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Speaker 4: little bit broken that that appeal to me. In Lane's case,
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Speaker 4: I'm not surprised. I am surprised just a little bit
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Speaker 4: because Mississippi. I think he had done a great job there.
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Speaker 4: I think everyone's these guys a lot of money. I
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Speaker 4: don't know if it's dramatically different at LSU, but you know,
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Speaker 4: it's it's the business.
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Speaker 2: And if he.
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Speaker 4: Thought it was time and he was ready to do that,
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Speaker 4: He's gone to a lot of places, you know, he's
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Speaker 4: been a lot of and my only concern was, and
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Speaker 4: you guys have met coaches and people. You're at a bank,
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Speaker 4: you're at a banquet. You're at a banquet and you're
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Speaker 4: going around. It's everyone has a glass of wines before
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Speaker 4: they sit down and eat, and you're going around talking
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Speaker 4: to people shaking hands and you see this person and
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Speaker 4: he's shaking your hand, but he's looking over your shoulder.
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Speaker 2: He wants to see someone more important, you know.
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Speaker 4: And and and I met I knew coaches like that too,
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Speaker 4: that if you're not, if you're focused on the next
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Speaker 4: job and not the job you have, you're not that.
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Speaker 4: I didn't like that so much. So I don't know him.
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Speaker 4: I wish him well, but I was a little bit surprised.
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Speaker 3: Refresh my memory when you did make the very difficult
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Speaker 3: decision to leave the Packers. Was it before the playoffs
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Speaker 3: or after the playoffs?
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Speaker 2: No, it was.
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Speaker 4: I think, Uh uh it was it was after our
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Speaker 4: last game. Okay, you know, and I told you the
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Speaker 4: story I had. I had three I was gonna interview
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Speaker 4: it Baltimore and and uh Philadelphia the same week and
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Speaker 4: uh so you know it was crazy.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Well we'll wrap it up with that,
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Speaker 3: but thank you gentlemen. Awesome stuff as always. Uh and
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Speaker 3: we'll do it again, uh next week.
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Speaker 2: Thank you.
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