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Iron Chic · Deprogrammed Music Podcast

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It's Deprogram, the podcast where we try to get you into a
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band. That's right.
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We've done all the work for you. All you have to do is press play
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and listen. My name is Justin and you could
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call me Band Curious because I like to find out why it is my
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bands or my bands. My bands like bands.
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Why do my friends like bands? And to do that we get together
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and chat about them and come out with a top ten circuit list for
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you to try to get into the band as well.
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And you know, today I should have asked.
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I presume it's Iron Chic, as in like the wrestler, 'cause it's
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CHIC. But maybe I'm wrong about that.
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I should have asked. I didn't.
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So we're talking about, I'm going to say Iron Chic and if
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I'm wrong, I will be corrected. And Chris, I believe this is
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kind of like another one in in in the line of kind of the the
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punk lineup we've been doing. Is this in the same family or is
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this just a relative of one of the other bands that we've done?
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Oh yeah, this is this is the direct descendant of Laderman.
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This is this is Phil's continued musical output as the main
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songwriter. You could hear the riffs are
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very similar but a little bit more mature.
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It it's a worthy successor and there's just a bunch of great
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tunes. The energy is certainly
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different. It's not it's not the same
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artistic thrust for sure. Musically, there's a lot in
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common, but the themes are not the same.
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This is a very voyeuristic band. This is a band about how how it
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feels to be a human being and that's it.
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This is not a band that's writing songs about the greater
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scheme of growing up like Ladderman or, you know, social
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injustice and things like that. It's not that it's missing, but
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it's not the same. And I, and I, and I do want to
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say too for me, I, I, I am not going to claim I can be fully
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objective. I have a huge bias.
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Jesse, the current, the second guitar player, He and I grew up
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together, You know, we, I, I've known him basically my whole
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life. They're the singer of this band,
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does most of the art for my band's T-shirts.
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So I'm just going to be a complete biased mess today so
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nobody think of me as a scientific thinker for the next
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hour, I think. You know, what does that matter?
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I mean, you know, we we just getting together to talk about
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getting together with the boys to talk about the boys.
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So I think this came about in one of those like after the
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facts sessions where John, you and Chris kind of like we're
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just banding about bands. And then, you know, as we were
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talking about some of the other ones, it came to be that, you
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know, this is one that you'd be on for too.
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So is this just one that intrigued you or is this one
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that, you know, you really just wanted to get in on?
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Yeah, well, like I've I've known of them and like, I I never
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again. This is one that I never did the
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deep dive. I owned one of their records and
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I really liked it. But when yeah, you know what
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what Chris was talking about when when Ladderman broke up,
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like that was a that was a big deal.
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It's like what can happen? They were this like band in the
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scene that was like we thought they were going to change
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everything like we talked about on that episode.
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And then they break up and they go in these two different
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directions. So Revivor is the other band
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that came out of of Ladderman, which we need to do at some
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point. Great band in their own right.
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And then Iron Sheik was the was the other band.
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So they kind of split off in these two things and I went more
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towards the reviver camp. Like I got, excuse me, I got
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really into the into them for a little while.
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And then, you know, only recently have I gotten more into
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Iron Sheik. And like, like I said, I owned
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one of their records, listen to it loaded, but wanted a chance
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to to get into other other stuff and and see what they're about.
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But if you kind of do the math, you can make like an equation
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for Iron Sheik that's very simple.
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Like Iron Sheik is Ladderman minus Reviver plus Dillinger 4.
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And if you remember, you know, Justin, we did Dillinger 4 a
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couple of years ago. More of like a like a straight
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up more of like a grittier kind of punk band.
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Crazy song titles, sing song, sing along vocals.
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They kind of the iron sheet kind of took that element and added
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it to what Phil was doing a lot of his stuff, and it kind of
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made this new thing. And yeah, I mean, I remember
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people, you know, being really excited for for what was gonna
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happen next. And they've kind of sustained
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like a a pretty loyal fan base throughout the years.
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I think they're, I think they're still around, you know, doing
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stuff, putting out records, touring, like, like Chris said.
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So yeah, that's it's this is this is gonna be a fun.
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I'm glad you said fun, because that's right where I was going
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to start. Is is what I like about, you
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know, this panel, You know where we we get into these bands is
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sure to like. Sometimes the songs are hard to
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like differentiate as far as like, you know, I can't tell you
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exactly why something hit hit, you know, with me.
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But what I can say is for sure that this is one of those bands
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where the deep dive, the discog is worth it.
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Just do it. It's fun.
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I had a blast. I blasted through my first pass,
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of course, but like, I just had a blast listening to this.
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And then, you know, before we got together, I listened to my
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list and I finished all the way through it.
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And then I was like, ah, you know what?
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I'm just going to listen to the like the whole thing.
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And I was just having a blast. Like I forgot we were even doing
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a show until like I looked down and Chris is like, hey, you guys
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about ready. Oh yeah, we're recording today.
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So like this is like, I mean, not necessarily wheelhouse for
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me, but like close enough to where it like it, it caught my
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attention And I I'm I'm high on bands when I'm not sure about
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them. If you can deliver something
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fun, then I'm going to be on board And and this band does
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that in spades. So we don't have like a lot to
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go over here, Chris. Like this isn't like some
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massive discography, but but it is it it's it's heavy.
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Like it's, it's loaded. So talk to me like when you're
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going through this, especially since you kind of have a
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personal tie to it, like what are you looking to bring to the
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table when you're you're putting your 20 together for this one?
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My biggest thing was I didn't want to load it with too many of
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the third record cuz Jesse's on that one and I'm super biased
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towards it cuz of that. But to me it actually is their
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worst even though it's fucking amazing.
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So it wasn't super hard and to be honest with you, the first
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pass I had a hard and fast 19 and I just struggled over the
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20th for a week. That was really all it took.
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You know, so I mean we're looking at 55 songs here.
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John again, you you mentioned you hadn't done the deep dive.
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Was this something where like you're struggling with pics or
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is this just kind of throw a dart and grab a song?
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I. Mean, I think it I think it came
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together together pretty easily. There are another band that has
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really good song titles. So as you're going through it
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like that gives you a pretty good idea of what you're in for.
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And like I said, like I didn't want to pick the ones that like
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just sounded like Letterman songs.
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So I was looking for I think it it took them I think a while to
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find their sound. I think, you know, whenever you
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know, people split off of a really popular bands, it's real
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tempting to just stick with that sound.
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But I think they work towards finding their their own sound.
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So I was really looking for those songs to figure out like
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OK, this is Iron Sheik, not just like Post Ladderman.
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You know, I didn't have that tie just because not because I don't
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remember Ladderman, which may be an unfortunate truth like, but
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but more so that the the amount of bands that I listen to just
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kind of, yeah, I I'll listen to a new one and it, you know, it
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deletes one from from the bank. So I actually, and every week of
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this year is about like 6 years. So I get it.
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Yeah, it's. True, that's.
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True too. I actually did want to ask you,
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Justin, I wanted to ask if you found this more or less anthemic
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than Ladderman, but I guess you can't answer that.
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I will say like you use the word anthemic there.
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I, I, I can't answer you directly of more or less, but I
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definitely fell into oh, wow, yeah, anthems like this is this
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is this is my jam. Again, like not quite
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wheelhouse. It's just outside of my
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wheelhouse, but it's like it's close enough to my wheelhouse to
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grab my attention. So like when I'm when I'm going
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through it, like I kept try to keep that, that word fun, you
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know, in mind because that's what I kept getting drawn back
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to. John mentioned like song titles
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that definitely kind of, you know, put feelers out for me.
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Definitely noticed a lot of Bill Murray themes here.
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So there's there's a couple of those.
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Yeah, man, Like why am I belaboring this?
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It was just fun. And to reiterate the point 55
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songs, if you're even halfway interested by the time we're
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done with this, just do it like it's it will not take you long.
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You'll enjoy yourself. Just listen to the whole
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discography. But we're going to try to make
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it a little lighter for you based on everything we've said
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so far, Chris, like this feels like feels like it could be very
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agreeable, but that doesn't always necessarily translate to
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gameplay. So how many do you think we're
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going to get through unanimously for the final say?
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I am fairly confident in this one.
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I feel like this band, and you can attest this more than me
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because of how much music you consume for this show.
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I feel like this band really understood what their best
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material was and put it on the three records.
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I think you don't need to go crazy diving through.
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There's some gems in like down in that discard pile for sure,
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but everything is pretty much right in front of you on the
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three records. And I think there's a couple
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right and wrong answers. And I think we're gonna have a
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pretty high number. I I'm gonna give a very
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confident 6. OK.
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All right. John, what are you thinking?
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I. Mean after that I thought he was
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gonna go with an 8 or 9. I know, right?
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It's they are consistent. OK, yeah, I'll, I'll, I'll save
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you the trouble, Justin. I'll take the five.
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OK, All right, well, look, you know, Chris seems ultra
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confident. You're in the middle of the road
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confidence. I'm going to go ultra, ultra
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confident. I'm going to go 9.
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And again, this is one of those. I mean, I'm just saying I feel,
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I feel like that's not just, you know, a guess.
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I feel like it's well within and I feel like there are songs that
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I would pick as #10 So I just, if I'm going to be right, I want
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to be really right. And if I'm going to be really
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right, I want him to be 9. I want us to have a have a good
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one. So all right, we're going to
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take a quick pause and on the other side of it, we're going to
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play the game. Mr. Probe.
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Jack. And with that, the name of the
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game is deprogrammed. The three of us have combed
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through the Iron Cheek discography and plucked out 20
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songs that are now going to mash together in an attempt to create
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a top 10 starter kit for you. In case you are like me and have
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never given Iron Cheek the time of day.
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And man, where else am I going to start?
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I got to start here in one year. I went with the demo O 8 version
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but both of them are good. I absolutely have that song.
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Yep, me too. Yeah.
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Right. Yeah, again.
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Necessary. Do you guys have a preference to
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which one? I I went with demo O 8 but.
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I have the not like this version on.
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But yeah, either one. OK.
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Yeah, we'll go with absolute jammer.
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Yeah, we'll go with the not like this version.
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Play it. Underneath there was like at the
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beginning of their career, I think when it was just this one
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record out, there was an Instagram account called
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Pictures of Cats with Iron Sheik lyrics and it is literally just
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pictures of cats with Iron Sheik lyrics.
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And the one from In One Ear was the best one and I'm trying to
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find it right now. You know where that's got to go,
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friend. Yeah, absolutely all.
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Right. I'm gonna go ahead and make mark
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that as a unanimous. And like I said, I I think
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they're both good, but there's just always something about, you
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know, track one album 1. It just kind of tells me exactly
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what to expect. So that's why I went with the
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demo version. So just for an explanation.
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All right, Chris. All right, so let's go off that
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record into a different one. Let's do I'm going to go with a
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song that is named after what I think is the road that used to
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go from my my first job to my college, which was Wolf Hill Rd.
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in Dix Hills. And the song is Wolf Dix Rd.
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I got it. No.
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Oh man, really? I think it might be my favorite
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Iron Sheik song. Oh wow, yeah.
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OK, that's interesting. Yeah, all.
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Right. We'll take the 2 though.
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All right. John All right, So not like this
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was the album that I had, so I'm going to pick one off of that.
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How about Time Cop? Yep, Yep.
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Yes, Sir. Time Cop is there this this
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might be a nine. In this one I definitely picked
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the knot like this version, not the demo wait.
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Oh, yeah, this was, this is on the demo as well, right?
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Yeah, those are the two, yeah. Yeah.
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What's funny is I think on my first pass I had the demo will
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wait version and I was like oh I think I'd like this one better.
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Yeah, I don't know what it is for me.
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I really prefer the record version.
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I think that record is just so well done.
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I think it sounds so good. Now I got to rethink because
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that was going to be my second pick.
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Well, you know, I mentioned Bill Murray and let's go with a semi
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Bill Murray reference. I mean, it is for sure a
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Ghostbusters reference. Staying on.
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Not like this. How about busting?
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Makes me feel good. I don't have it.
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I do. Hey, all right, I'll take that
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too. I, I, I do.
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I do love the intro of that song though, that it sounds like it's
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going to go fast and then it doesn't.
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I don't know why, I just always love that.
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Busting makes me feel good. There was no way I had to.
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I had to if you're just. Going to come and stunt on us
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like that, damn. All right, Chris.
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Let's go, I'll do a knot like this.
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Let's do the absolute windmill slam, let's just say it right
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now. And Paul Rudd our way to into
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victory with cutesy monster man. Yeah, I got it.
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No. Whoa, how cool are you?
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How? How?
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For real? You don't want to smash your
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face. You don't want to smash your
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goddamn face into goddamn radios, you know?
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Didn't make it. I.
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Think that's the. One, I asked her to go to the
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Green Day concert. She said she never heard of
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them. I hear you.
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You know, if it's good enough for Rivers Cuomo, Yeah.
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No, I mean like it's it's a it's a solid discount.
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Like, you know, they're not a band like does like singles.
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So a lot of this is like, you know, you just kind of take it
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at face value. I didn't come in with like,
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preconceived, right, right about certain songs because I heard
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them more than others, you know? Yeah, sure.
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Fair enough. Yeah.
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I mean, I, I feel like there's like there's like 2 of their
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songs or like the ones that everyone expects to hear every
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night. And that's one of them.
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I mean, I, I, it's, it's also, I will say it's not like a band.
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I listen to a bunch where like the bigger hits like are worn,
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worn out, they're welcome. Like I still love that song.
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Yeah. All right, John.
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All right, I will go to the third record.
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How about my best friend is a nihilist?
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That's the other one. Yes, absolutely.
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Oh, really? Yeah.
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Oh, I don't have that. Yeah.
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Man, that's like the best chorus ever.
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I I think like for me, that's the tune that people that don't
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like this band like, like it's like driving a runaway hearse.
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It just gets people, man. Wait a second, is it possible
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that I did not listen to that song because I'm.
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Not seeing it's the. It's the second song on that
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record. Yeah.
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It's like driving a runaway hearse.
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Oh, there it is. Can't stop.
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It just makes things worse. You definitely heard it.
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Yeah, I, yeah, I had, I don't know.
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I don't have a lot from that record.
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I didn't not like it. I do have things from that
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record. I don't have a reason for not
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having that song. So.
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Fair enough. If we're going to get all into
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it, there it is. I found it all right.
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It gets A2 gets to hang around. Let's go with the Groundhog's
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Day reference. How about don't drive angry?
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Oh, I don't have that. I don't have that.
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I love that song. Into the bin you go's all right.
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I love me a Bill Murray reference, and this time it
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killed me. All right, Chris.
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I'll do something that's a little bit of an outlier for
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them because like, most of their songs are just about a lonely
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person that has like deep observations about the world
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around them. And this is what they're
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thinking. If they could tell everyone.
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But I, I love this song because it's just just a fucking love
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song. Spooky action at a distance.
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Yeah. Yes, we're back.
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We're back. Let's go.
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Do you have a preference? I technically had the spooky
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action version, but I I think I like the.
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Is it is it not the same recording I thought it might
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have been? I don't.
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I'm not sure if it was different.
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Version the The album version is 30 seconds longer.
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I haven't listened to the EP version a long time.
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It came out before the records and oh, it's very different.
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Wow. OK, yeah, I, I listened to the
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album version, but hearing this, it's even instrumentally
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different. I just haven't remembered that.
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OK, so let's go with the album. I cuz when we were doing the
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when I was listening to it beforehand, when it came up on
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the album, I think I have a slight preference.
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I think I was just trying to spread stuff out so.
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I'm, I'm mad at myself. This is cool.
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I actually didn't listen to it. I just put on the songs that
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aren't on, you know? What I mean, yeah, let me get
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that going underneath real quick and then we will move on.
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Boom boom boom gives us a three with still really early in the
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game. And am I the only one in the bin
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so far? I think so.
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Yeah, I think so. All right, John all.
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Right, let's go to something a little more recent.
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How about cat gut from the single from a few years ago?
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I got it. Yeah, I got that too.
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Nice cat. Good.
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There's a couple songs on here that I want to talk about if
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even if one of you guys doesn't have them, we'll get to it.
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Maybe we'll get to it, but I'm glad this one got on.
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I feel like no, no, this was on from from Get.
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But like, this is one of those things where like by the time I
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got to this point in the playlist, I thought I was going
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to be done. I was like, yeah, there's no way
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anything this late in the games, right?
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Oh, oh, no, I got to find somewhere for this, so.
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All right. Good, that's to me it's the best
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of their like recent output like the post can't stay here stuff.
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Yeah, yeah. All right, let me try another
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constant one. How about true miserable
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experience? I don't that's a goodie.
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You had me at making fun of the Gin Blossoms.
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Yes, I'll pick. It to you there.
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Can you can you explain that? Why do we?
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Why do you hate the Gin Blossoms?
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No, I don't. I'd love the Gin Blossoms, but
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they. Oh, fair enough.
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Making a nod at the album title there.
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So absolutely. That one came in with a, with a
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plus and with a arrow next to it, Yeah.
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All right, take that too. And Chris?
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Let's do a timely song, a bratty little anti work tune.
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Black Friday. No.
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No. OK, one of those bands where
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it's like, I feel bad for not having having notes or a reason
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I just don't. Bend me, Daddy, it's all good.
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There's a shirt. Bend me, Daddy.
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All right, John. OK, how about profane geometry?
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No. I don't what song is that?
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Let me. See, it's on.
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You can't stay here. OK Oh yes, a good tune.
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I didn't know the name all. Right.
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Let me go back to not like this. How about I always never said
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that? I got it.
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Yes. There we go.
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Boom boom boom. Take that 3.
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Yeah, there's that's like when he, when they switch up the into
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the course. Like if I hear another word
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about a better place, I'll paint these walls with my fucking
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brains. It kills me every time.
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It's so well delivered. I hope I was also like, I'm not
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going to lie, I just fucking love that title.
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I always never said that. You know, Speaking of titles, I
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I made the a short reference about it before, but cutesy
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monster man has to be referencing Paul Rudd saying
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Ooki monster man in Sarah Marshall, right?
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That has. That has to be what that
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reference is, right? I would assume.
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Probably. Yeah, yeah.
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All right. And just like that, we're at
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John's 5, right? So I always never said that.
25:40
Was there's a Speaking of that movie?
25:43
There's a song on the Nude to Kimbei EP called Lemons.
25:46
That's just the quote when he's when Paul Rudd is out teaching
25:51
Jason Segel how to serve lemons. Is that they they just invasion,
25:57
Yeah. That's so good.
26:00
It's like, I don't know, man. I feel like Paul Rudd's just
26:03
always there, like no matter what you're doing.
26:05
Yep. Like he's just, he's probably
26:06
watching us all right now. He always has been like more on
26:11
this later. I feel like there's a Paul Rudd
26:13
conversation like. Oh.
26:16
Like I was saying, all right, that was me.
26:23
So, Chris? I will do another reference.
26:28
Let's go to the new record and we'll new in quotes and let's
26:32
get dangerous. Fucking hell, damn it no.
26:38
No, I like that one. It's kind of a slower jam.
26:43
I like a dark ring dark reference.
26:45
Yeah, what's wrong with that? I know, right?
26:48
All right, John. Yeah, Where to go?
26:57
We've had we've had success early.
27:00
But. And we got cat guts, so I want
27:04
to try to find one off of you can't stay here about you can't
27:11
stay safe. No.
27:15
Man, I wanted to put that so bad.
27:17
It just doesn't feel like a finished idea to me.
27:20
Does that make sense? Yeah, I get that.
27:22
It's like, it's like, it's like, it's like to me it's more of an
27:24
idea than a song. Even though I it's really
27:26
pleasing to listen to. I really do really like it.
27:31
Those are the kind of things that I like sometimes, though.
27:33
Yeah, I hear you. I hear you like it.
27:35
Honestly, if it's your thing, you're going to adore it 100%.
27:39
All right, stay with you guys here.
27:43
I'll try to find one from that record.
27:47
I had a lot of fun just saying this.
27:50
How about to shreds, you say? I love that song but I don't
27:55
have it. Yeah, no.
27:58
In the bin, OK. Yeah, that's that's a really
28:01
good song, Justin. That's a good call all.
28:03
Right into the bin it goes. All right, Chris.
28:09
I think this one has an EP version as well, but it's one of
28:15
my favorite from the first record.
28:16
Every town has an Elm St. No.
28:25
No, all right, fair enough there.
28:26
And I'll say this too. There are so many songs called
28:29
that if you just search that, I mean, obviously it's a fucking
28:33
Nightmare on Elm Street reference, but like if you just
28:35
search that, it's actually, it's a reference to a different
28:38
movie. Actually.
28:39
It's like I can see the movie in my head.
28:41
The guy is like stalking a girl into a basement and he's looking
28:45
down the cellar stairs at her and he goes, every town is in
28:48
Elm Street and he slams it. I can't think of what movie it
28:49
is, but whatever. But if you just search that
28:52
name, there's like 100 bands that have a song named that.
28:54
It's crazy. All right in the bin, John.
29:03
All right, I'm going to try to pronounce this one lesprit de
29:09
l'escalier. Unfortunately, no.
29:14
Is. That one of the newer tunes.
29:17
Low culture split I. Think it's on the low culture
29:21
split. Oh no, I don't.
29:23
I, I don't have that. Let me put this on.
29:24
I haven't heard that in a long time.
29:30
I do not have it. All right, let me see here. 1234
29:41
56789 I still have 9 left so we've got a good couple rounds
29:45
in US before the dump out. Man try another.
29:55
You can't stay here, but I feel like we're running out of space
29:58
for that. How about a headache with
30:02
pictures? Oh yeah.
30:09
No. OK, we'll take that.
30:11
Damn, we'll take that too. At least we got something from
30:15
from that in the conversation now.
30:17
Yeah. And I think we're at the point
30:21
where we are going to have to make a couple cuts here.
30:24
So what? Do you mean you're going to?
30:27
Do you want to dump out already? No, no, no, no.
30:29
I just mean we're up and over 10.
30:31
So there's actual an actual discussion to be had to.
30:36
Make to finish the list I love to discuss.
30:41
All right, Chris. Let's go with one that I feel
30:45
confident about. This was actually the one with
30:48
the best pictures of Castle Iron Sheiks lyric Bogus Journey.
30:52
Yeah, I got it. No.
30:57
No. This is amazing.
30:58
I love this. All right, big talks later.
31:00
Let's go. That's not even it.
31:04
But like I'm just going through the old posts this great radio
31:07
content. For sure.
31:11
All right, shift that up to A2 and John, OK.
31:19
I'm trying to find you guys. I feel like I'm the odd one out
31:23
here about Osnificent. No.
31:32
I absolutely have that that song, that song rules.
31:37
That's the, that's the titular line, right?
31:39
The not like this. Yeah, yeah.
31:44
Looks like we're going to cover that entire record, I think.
31:47
Not a shocker. I mean, it's the right, it's,
31:49
it's the right choice. There it is.
31:55
So that's a chew. Boom and boom.
32:02
All right, we're back around to me.
32:08
Oh boy. How about time keeps on slipping
32:18
into the cosmic future? Yes, Sir.
32:25
No. Damn dude, that's awesome.
32:31
No, I'll take another two there. Boom, these twos are getting
32:38
heavy. I am completely getting wiped
32:41
out. I've only got 7 songs left all.
32:44
Right, Chris? Let's do Wait, Is this the one
32:54
that I think it is? No, it's not all right.
32:57
I'm going to go with the last one I added from You Can't Stay
33:00
Here, Planes, chest pains and automobiles.
33:03
Yes, yes. You'll never guess I don't have
33:08
it. Whoa, it's crazy.
33:10
I love this. All right.
33:15
I mean, I like a good John Candy ish reference.
33:20
It's adjacent. All right, John.
33:26
All right, I'll stay on that record.
33:30
Ruinous Calamity. Yeah, yes, Sir, I have it.
33:35
I'm the 2K here. Yeah, really.
33:39
All right, another 2. I would love to go back and
33:42
listen to this and see if I matched you guys the same
33:44
amount. I feel like I've had matches
33:45
with you guys equally, but I'm the only one with the twos.
33:49
Yeah, it's, it is funny. Like, there's only like one or
33:53
two here with me and John too miserable and busting Makes me
33:57
feel good. Have to look at like, like the
34:01
actual numbers other than that. All right, let me shift that
34:05
back. Are we back around to me?
34:09
Yeah, all. Right.
34:10
I think maybe we do one more here and then dump out.
34:18
Yeah. How about whatever happened to
34:20
the man of tomorrow? Yes, Sir.
34:26
Hey, no. Oh God.
34:31
I'll take a two, I'll take A2. All right, Chris.
34:36
You guys are locked in. I know right?
34:37
I have two. I have 3 left.
34:40
Oh wow, I really like this chorus, which seems to be
34:47
something I'm saying a lot. A headache with pictures.
34:51
Yeah. You're you're not going to
34:56
believe it, but that's I don't have it.
35:01
Oh my God this is awesome, I love it.
35:03
All right, let. Me.
35:05
Oh, we, we already said that one.
35:06
Yeah, I said. We said that one.
35:07
Already I said that one. Do we?
35:09
I do. I'm so sorry guys.
35:10
Well then I only have two left, then I.
35:12
Yeah, and you are already said you do it so you can throw out
35:15
another. One.
35:16
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I guess I just didn't slide it down my
35:19
playlist. I apologize, I have a very, I
35:21
have a very serious strategy I do while we play this game and I
35:24
just move it to the bottom of the playlist after we say it and
35:27
I must have missed that and I apologize.
35:31
I have a 5050 shot because I've only got 2 left.
35:33
Let's go with sounds like a pretty brutal murder.
35:36
No. No.
35:40
No, OK. All right, John.
35:46
All right, I have 7 left still. How about Castle Numskull?
35:52
No. That's my last one.
35:54
I'm out. Oh, oh wow.
35:56
All right, so we officially can't get any more unanimous,
36:00
which means John's 5 is going to hold out.
36:03
Hey, all right. So let me, how do you like that?
36:06
Shift this and then I'll dump out and then we'll see what
36:11
John's got left after that. Unless he and I just hit every
36:15
single one, which is not out of the realm.
36:18
All right, going up to the top. How about crybaby?
36:24
No. OK, these heads are our heads.
36:31
No. All right, those heads are our
36:34
heads. My bad. 85 E Cleveland Plough
36:38
United. No, that's a it's a ply United
36:43
cover. The Ply United is the band, but
36:45
I assume no, they they do have some cool covers though.
36:48
I shouldn't. We shouldn't.
36:48
Which is which? Is another band we should
36:50
absolutely do I Absolutely. Fucking yeah, it was on the
36:52
list. But they do they do one of my
36:54
favorite Ramon song, Bonzo goes to Bip Bird, they do a Bikini
36:57
Kill cover, jet ski. Enjoy the silence Depeche Mode
37:01
on that last one. They they have some cool, Yeah.
37:03
The Butthole Surfers cover is fucking awesome too.
37:05
Fucking rips. Like if we didn't mention that I
37:08
was going to bring that up because I almost.
37:10
Oh, is that one of the things you wanted to bring up?
37:12
Yeah, I, I actually, I actually really like that cover a lot.
37:16
I was just listening to it just before we went on I I fucking
37:20
love that cover. I, I had, it was my 21st pick
37:24
and the only reason it didn't get on was because it was a
37:26
cover. Like it's, that's the only
37:28
reason I presumed this Plow United 1 was a Plow United song,
37:32
but I was kind of playing the odds thinking that maybe Chris
37:36
would have it because he likes United.
37:38
Oh, fair enough. Yeah, fair enough.
37:40
So I like, I like that game gaming.
37:43
It's nice. Yeah, sometimes you do that.
37:46
All right. And last but not least, Kid
37:48
Icarus. No.
37:53
No, I didn't hit you at all. All right?
37:57
Yeah. So John, what do you got left?
38:01
All right, get comfortable. I got know what I mean.
38:05
Jelly Bean. Great song.
38:07
I got Langoliers. I got less rest for the
38:11
restless. That's a really good one.
38:13
Prototypes, Subhumanoid Meltdown, and the Old Man of
38:19
Crete all. Right, prototypes.
38:27
Subhumanoid. If my computer would keep up
38:32
with me and the old Man of Crete.
38:36
We covered a lot here. Hold on.
38:39
It's a solid discography. Yeah, yeah, for sure.
38:43
Let me shift this. And I mean, this doesn't even
38:47
take into account that there's two versions of in one ear, 2
38:50
versions of Time Cop, 2 versions of something else.
38:56
I can't remember spooky action. I think that's the only thing
39:05
that has two. But like, we covered 37 songs
39:09
out of 55. And again, like a couple of
39:12
those are that's just wild, like pretty much expected.
39:17
All right, so let's run down these five that are in.
39:22
We've got in one year time cops, spooky action at a distance cat
39:26
gut. I always never said that we did
39:30
cover all of not like this between the three of us so.
39:35
Oh nice. All right.
39:37
But we've got 13 that we need to bring down to four, and then
39:43
John will have the final say here.
39:46
So we've got Wolf Dicks Rd. Boston makes me feel good.
39:50
Cutesy monster man. My best friend is a nihilist.
39:52
True miserable experience. A headache with pictures.
39:55
Bogus journey time keeps on slipping into the cosmic future.
39:58
Osnificent planes, chest pains and automobiles.
40:01
Ruinous calamity. Whatever happened to the man of
40:02
tomorrow and Castle Numbskull? Chris, Is there one that's kind
40:08
of like that? Feels glaring at this point and
40:10
we should probably not continue until it's in.
40:13
Yeah, I I mean, I think Cutesy Monster Man has to be the one
40:16
I'd like. They've they've, they've never
40:19
opened a show without that being the first song since the record
40:22
came out, so. Any resistance to that, John?
40:27
Not at all. Yeah.
40:29
Feeling, So let's put that one through.
40:32
So same question to you. Is there one that that's really
40:34
kind of jumping out at you, John?
40:41
Yeah, either my best friend is a nihilist or osnificent.
40:46
For me, both of them. Yeah, yeah.
40:51
All right, well, why not? Why not take both?
40:58
Because it checks. Best friend is a nihilist,
41:03
checks a box for he can't stay here.
41:05
You know, we can come back to that that part of the
41:07
conversation at a later point, but it it checks that box and
41:11
then osnificent. So all right, that brings us up
41:16
to what 8. So is there another one kind of
41:22
leading the pack there, Chris, you feel like?
41:26
Bogus Journey got Bend right. No, Bogus Journey was oh so me
41:30
and you. That would be for me, the other
41:32
one, that's the other one for me that like I, I would stump for.
41:36
All right. Any hesitation there with Bogus
41:39
Journey John No. All right.
41:42
So that. Is your pick.
41:43
I get the you guys all. Right, there's.
41:47
Do you think? Brings us up to 9 and that gives
41:50
John the final say, which of course, as long as it's an Iron
41:55
Cheek song, that's all. I'm tempted to go with the Bonzo
42:03
Goes to Bitburg cover. I love that idea.
42:06
But. I honestly if you want to do
42:09
that, I do want to stop for the butthole surface cover because
42:12
it's so good. No, I think I'm going to go with
42:18
one that I that I really liked and stuck out.
42:22
To me it's a little different, so maybe it it will add
42:25
something a little bit different to the list.
42:27
I'm going to go with the Ruinous Calamity.
42:29
Yeah, it's a cool song. Boom, let's add that as the
42:33
final say. For me, that's the one that
42:36
finishes the idea that the other one we talked about starts, you
42:40
know what I mean? And I, and I think, I think
42:43
they're meant to be like that. That record is like meant to be
42:46
listened front to back, obviously, like there is a
42:48
sequencing to it, that's undeniable.
42:50
But for me, Ruinous Calamity is like a complete idea and I love
42:53
how different it is melodically and musically than anything else
42:57
they've ever put out. I think it's a great call, man.
42:59
I, I love that. I love that call.
43:01
All right, let me read this one one more time down and then we
43:05
can crank up the heat a little bit.
43:07
So we've got in one ear time cop spooky action at a distance cat
43:11
gut. I always never said that cutesy
43:13
monster man. My best friend is a nihilist
43:15
osnificent bogus journey and ruinous calamity.
43:20
I read those attend down to you, Chris.
43:23
Which one is jumping out at you as the one?
43:26
I mean, I don't want to make a cutesy monster man, but that's
43:30
the one. OK.
43:33
Like I like, what do you like? How many times can I say it?
43:35
I mean, I, it's, it's the right choice, but I, I like, I don't
43:37
want it to be, you know what I mean?
43:41
We don't have to make it be but like if it's.
43:44
Just it's just design. Like, it's like you listen to
43:46
that song. Like I here's something I said
43:48
about that song. When I was on tour once, I was
43:50
like, I don't know how anybody on the planet can hear a cutesy
43:53
monster, man. And not just not want to become
43:56
a punk rocker. That's how fucking good that
43:58
song is. Like it's, it's, it's hard to
44:01
argue against it, but at the same time, it's like, yeah,
44:03
anybody who likes this band is like, you know.
44:06
So I don't know, but that's just it, Like we're trying to get
44:09
other people to like the band, so.
44:12
Yes, that's the answer then yes. You might, you know, Iron Chic
44:16
fans might be upset that we're picking like the the obvious
44:20
choice, but the obvious choice isn't obvious to probably 90% of
44:26
the people that listen to the show, so.
44:29
It's a, it's a perfect. Not only is it a perfect opener
44:31
and it it encapsulates everything that's about the
44:34
band, it also is the perfect distillation of what their
44:38
creative output is, Which is, like I said before, like a bunch
44:41
of first person like voyeuristic songs about a loner observing
44:47
things and having really thoughtful observations.
44:49
But like in a way that helps people that he couldn't relate
44:52
to without the power of music relate to him.
44:55
You know what I mean? And I don't know, it's just,
44:57
it's just AII don't want to get too deep because it's not what
44:59
we're here to do. But like, I, I think it's the
45:02
right choice because it just is a banner for the band, you know?
45:05
What do you think, John? I mean, feel free to offer
45:08
something else up, but Chris has made quite the valid point,
45:11
yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's I mean, I'm
45:15
going to I'm going to go with that.
45:16
I mean, I you look at like I think Austin efficent would be a
45:19
really good choice. My best friend is a nihilist is
45:24
a close. I really like that one.
45:29
You know, I feel like the with with Cutie monster man, like
45:35
with it being the first song on the 1st frame, if you like, you
45:39
maybe lean into a little bit of like this might be too much of A
45:43
sounding like Ladderman, but it is that good.
45:47
I mean, there's nothing. Again, that's not a knock on it.
45:49
That's not a bad thing to to be. But the only argument for a best
45:54
friend as a nihilist to be like it's the third record they came
45:58
into their own sound. I think it sounds more like
46:01
them, but I mean you QT Monster Man is a is a great song too.
46:06
Like, like I said, man, like that, that song, My best friend
46:09
is a nihilist is the song that people that don't like this band
46:12
like that. That's that's the that's the
46:14
argument I would make for it. If we wanted to pick it instead,
46:16
'cause it is the one that like people, people the argument
46:19
against Iron Sheik and we can be, we can say it is like they
46:22
sound a little samey and like I think like if you you for the
46:25
first time, Justin, listen to their whole discography, would
46:27
you say that's reasonable? Yeah, yeah.
46:29
I mean, and I think the best way possible, but like, yeah.
46:33
Right. It's a really, really good idea.
46:34
They have. Like, it's a really good idea.
46:36
Yeah. And like, and like John just
46:38
said, they came into their own in that record.
46:39
And I think that tune just has that big anthemic.
46:45
Like, I don't know that it paints a positive picture of
46:49
where we could go when we're depressed, but it certainly
46:52
paints a I'm gonna survive whether I like it or not.
46:54
And I think it just resonates with people when they hear it.
46:58
I don't. Know, but I'll say this too, I
46:59
think like you can tell on that third record that like they've
47:04
got some ideas, like I think the next one is going to be really
47:07
interesting to see where they go, yeah.
47:10
Yeah, I agree. And it is like a final, it's
47:13
finalized version of that idea. They tried twice, right?
47:16
Like I finally found the meme that's that is the final meme
47:20
that I've been looking for. So what are we thinking then?
47:24
Do we want to stick with, you know, what is?
47:32
I mean, 'cause that if you boil those down, it's the the song
47:38
that people that don't like this band like versus the song that
47:44
the people that like this band don't want you to pick like.
47:52
So I don't know, that's a coin flip for me.
47:55
I don't, yeah, I say, I say cutesy monster, man.
48:00
I say cutesy monster. Man, OK, let's stick with that,
48:02
because simplicity at its finest, I suppose, and it's all
48:08
right. This is a good list.
48:09
This is a very good list. Like y'all, if you haven't heard
48:12
this band, you're going to love this list.
48:13
It's very good all. Right, so let's run this down
48:16
one last go. Cutesy Monster Man is going to
48:18
be our number one in one year time cop.
48:21
Spooky action at a distance. Cat cut.
48:23
I always never said that my best friend is a nihilist.
48:25
Osnificent focus journey and ruinous calamity round out R10.
48:30
With that, let's let Cutesy Monster Man get a moment in the
48:34
sun. And literally a moment.
48:41
I keep getting hit for these. Oh really, You do?
48:46
This one probably wouldn't get taken down, but my panic at the
48:48
disco one did so. Those bastards.
48:52
More news on that later, but we have done it.
48:55
We've turned you into iron Sheik fans.
48:56
You're very welcome. It bears repeating.
49:01
It's 55 songs I hear, I'm going to bring it up.
49:06
I've removed a couple at this point and it's still only barely
49:10
over 2 hours and 16 minutes. I can't imagine it was all it
49:15
was. Even 3 hours.
49:18
It is well worth your time. If you even halfway like any of
49:23
anything you've heard today, just give them the time of day.
49:26
Just just go in and give it a listen.
49:28
You'll like it and it'll, it'll make everything easier for us,
49:32
damn it. Because that's what we're here.
49:34
We're aiming for, making the sell easier for us.
49:38
So let me try to sell you on something patreon.com/oh.
49:41
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I'll get back to it eventually. All sorts of ideas kind of get
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50:42
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50:46
Oh what? What band is that?
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You might know them as night time.
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the door, $5 a month would be super helpful.
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I get it man, money's tough. You know, if all you can do is
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share, then man, that helps me a great deal too.
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So that being said, we are a podcast.
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The best thing you can do sharing is caring.
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We're on all podcast platforms. Leaving a rate and or a comment
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on whatever platform you're listening on.
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Super helpful again, share that into your feed is super duper
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helpful. Tag me on if you're going to do
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it on like threads or Instagram, tag me at deprogram VA.
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I'll share it. You know, like we'll, we'll,
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we'll we'll get together, baby. We'll we will we'll do the
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thing. But like these are all super
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helpful ways. If you can't come up with a
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dollar a month ban, I'm serious. I get it.
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So, and if if all of this is too much, just tell somebody, Hey,
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you can listen to the show. Hey, I listened deprogrammed and
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you should tune with that iron sheet.
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Learn of an 11 people. We'll see you next week.
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Goodbye.