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BravoCon Mistakes, Jen Shah Banned, and Only Fans' Lindsey Pelas · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 1: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
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  Speaker 1: for it? This exclusive place that Dad has connections with.
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  Speaker 1: They have more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
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  Speaker 1: You have to put me in touch.
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  Speaker 2: What's it called?
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  Speaker 3: It's Dunaidial.
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  Speaker 1: Where? Dunaidial.
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  Speaker 3: There's an accent on the E.
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  Speaker 1: Do you mean... Yes, I got it on Dundale Cars.
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  Speaker 2: Lift?
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  Speaker 1: Please. Are you going past Kimmage? Oh, Kimmage. No. Dundale Cars.
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  Speaker 3: You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.
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  Speaker 1: Heather MacDonald has got the Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 4: When you're on the road, when you're on the go,
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  Speaker 4: Juicy Scoop is the show to know. She talks Hollywood
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  Speaker 1: Listen in, listen up.
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  Speaker 3: Woo, woo.
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  Speaker 1: Heather MacDonald.
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  Speaker 3: Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I am back from
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  Speaker 1: my weekend doing my show. I'm wearing this adorable shirt
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  Speaker 1: that these two cute guys gave me. Of course, on
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  Speaker 1: my YouTube, if you like watching me on YouTube, I
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  Speaker 1: have some great photos from the weekend. And I'm sorry
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  Speaker 1: about these two cute guys. I don't remember their names.
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  Speaker 1: But they did give me this shirt, which is my
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  Speaker 1: scoop is juicier than yours with McDonald on the back
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  Speaker 1: and 70 because that's the year I was born. I'm
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  Speaker 1: proud to be on this earth this long. Um, also
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  Speaker 1: super cute outfit. Thank you, Alice and Olivia. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I love their stuff. So I felt like a million
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  Speaker 1: bucks doing my show. I want to thank everybody who
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  Speaker 1: went and basically the show is even more juicy scoop
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  Speaker 1: that I'm going to reveal right now that, and so
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  Speaker 1: much more juice with Carlos King. And you can still
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  Speaker 1: watch it for the next five days on the stream.
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  Speaker 1: You go to Heather McDowell.net, but it was so great.
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  Speaker 1: Palladium theater.com. Now, this crowd, this is what it was like,
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  Speaker 1: just crazy crowd waiting in line at No Not BravoCon
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  Speaker 1: to come see me. I really do appreciate it. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: so I really do appreciate it because I know what
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  Speaker 1: a busy weekend it was for the people that were
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  Speaker 1: running around New York. So let's get into the scoop,
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  Speaker 1: some of the latest scoop that's happened since I've left. Oh, also,
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  Speaker 1: I gave out these little onesies. People love the Juicy
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  Speaker 1: Scoop onesies, the latest onesie, which I gave out to
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  Speaker 1: a very pregnant girl. I think she's doing like a week,
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  Speaker 1: but she came to my show, which is the Juicy
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  Speaker 1: Scoop is how I got here. That is also at heathermcdoll.net.
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  Speaker 1: I love the onesies because, you know, the babies, they
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  Speaker 1: just get into it right coming home from the hospital
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  Speaker 1: and they look smashing. Okay, so I've been seeing everything
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  Speaker 1: like you guys have. Page Six has been putting a
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  Speaker 1: lot up. A lot of my other favorite content providers
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  Speaker 1: who were there, who are into Bravo, were posting a lot.
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  Speaker 1: I was posting stuff. But I'm going to talk about
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  Speaker 1: the things that I find the juiciest. So in one
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  Speaker 1: of the panels, Erika Jayne got asked. It was a
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  Speaker 1: big question. Erika Jayne had to ask it. And they
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  Speaker 1: mixed a lot of different franchises and stuff together on
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  Speaker 1: all the panels. So this was just one of them,
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  Speaker 1: and I believe it happened Sunday. They asked her, who
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  Speaker 1: will be the next couple to split up? And Erica
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  Speaker 1: didn't have to think about it. And she said, they're
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  Speaker 1: eating pique. And then spun around and went back to
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  Speaker 1: her seat. And my first thought, and I actually wrote
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  Speaker 1: it on the Page Six article, was what a gross
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  Speaker 1: question to ask. Sorry, Bravo. Like, gross. You know, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people were saying, Heather, why weren't you asked
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  Speaker 1: to run a panel? Hey. If they ask me next time,
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  Speaker 1: I'll consider it. But I would never have asked that
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  Speaker 1: question if I had to. I think, you know, no
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  Speaker 1: matter what, as much as we love to talk about
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  Speaker 1: the gossip and everything, these are families. And I'm not
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  Speaker 1: mad at Erika Jayne either because that's what people want
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  Speaker 1: to see, unfortunately. They want to see the snarky and
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  Speaker 1: the meanness. But it just kind of was like, wow,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe I'm hoping that Erika walked back
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  Speaker 1: and said to Dorit, baby, this is going to get
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  Speaker 1: us next season. Don't even worry about it. I know
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  Speaker 1: you're good, babe. I don't know, but maybe there is
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  Speaker 1: something more deep-rooted into it. It got people talking. I'm
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  Speaker 1: talking about it today, but for me, I thought the
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  Speaker 1: question was gross. Okay, also, Heather Dubrow, I guess, stated that.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see that she said that Erika Jayne has been
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  Speaker 1: the rudest to her out of all the housewives from
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  Speaker 1: all over the franchise, according to Heather Dubrow. And there
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  Speaker 1: was some major snubbing. Now, let me tell you about
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  Speaker 1: how crazy BravoCon is. So when it happened three years ago,
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  Speaker 1: it was so, so many less people. I heard that
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  Speaker 1: was 5,000 people in 2019. And this weekend it was 35,000 people. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the place definitely could hold that many people, this big
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  Speaker 1: Javits Center. But there were a lot of problems with it,
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  Speaker 1: and you probably heard people were comparing it to online con,
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  Speaker 1: meaning– or waiting in line con, meaning they had to
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  Speaker 1: wait in line so much instead of BravoCon that it
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  Speaker 1: was like a fire festival. I had my ticket. I
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  Speaker 1: went with Annie, and I walked in, and it was
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  Speaker 1: really– listen. I felt like– from the minute I walked in,
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  Speaker 1: I felt like Sally Field, when Whoopi Goldberg tried to
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  Speaker 1: cheer her up in Soap Dish and took her to–
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  Speaker 1: the mall in New Jersey. I mean, I really did
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  Speaker 1: love it, but it made me nervous because at a
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  Speaker 1: certain point I wanted to get to the panels that
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to see, that I wanted to report on,
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  Speaker 1: and people kept stopping me for photos. And I felt like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my God, now if I say no after I
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  Speaker 1: just took seven photos because I'm losing time and if
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to miss out on my chance to talk
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  Speaker 1: to my friends who are talent or watch their panel,
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  Speaker 1: Then is that person going to go tell Page Six
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  Speaker 1: and say Heather McDowell snubbed me? And even among the talent,
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  Speaker 1: they have so many people. Like I was backstage with
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  Speaker 1: many of the talent throughout the day on Friday. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking to them and we're taking photos. But there's
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  Speaker 1: like limited time and everybody's grabbing at each other. And
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  Speaker 1: I think the talent does really love people. being together
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  Speaker 1: and backstage before the Watch Robbins Live so that they connect,
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  Speaker 1: take photos. Many of them are friends from different franchises.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get dinner, let's get drinks, come on my podcast, whatever. But,
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  Speaker 1: you know, was Heather Dubrow snubbed? I don't know. Probably
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  Speaker 1: everybody felt snubbed by someone one time or another throughout
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  Speaker 1: the weekend. I just don't think anyone can behave completely
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  Speaker 1: pleasing to every single person at the time because it
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  Speaker 1: was crazy. And a lot of people were very hungry.
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  Speaker 1: Something I heard is that they did not plan meal
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  Speaker 1: breaks for this talent. And I know people want to
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  Speaker 1: be skinny, but you know, you don't eat after a while.
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  Speaker 1: At a certain point, I had to get some food
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  Speaker 1: and I was getting, you know, so many people were
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  Speaker 1: being so sweet and wanting to get a photo with me,
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  Speaker 1: which you guys know I love that. But at a
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  Speaker 1: certain point, Annie had to scream, she's going to faint again.
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  Speaker 1: And then people were like, I'm your biggest fan. Wait,
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  Speaker 1: you fainted? And I'm like, well, then you're not my
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  Speaker 1: biggest fan. If you don't know that I faint, then
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  Speaker 1: you are not my biggest fan. But like, no, seriously.
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  Speaker 1: And then I got to this room that was part
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  Speaker 1: of the SVIP where they said there was food. And
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  Speaker 1: I thought there was going to be like sandwiches and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: There were chips and cookies and kind bars, which is
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  Speaker 1: really all you need as you're like running to the
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  Speaker 1: next thing. But You know, that was my other complaint. Also,
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  Speaker 1: I would say the people working at the Javits Center
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  Speaker 1: with the BravoCon shirts on, all extremely nice, polite people. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I'm assuming this is a gig that they had to
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  Speaker 1: hire to do this show. However, you think if you
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  Speaker 1: walk up to someone with a BravoCon shirt and you're like,
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  Speaker 1: which way is the don't be for the tardy stage
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  Speaker 1: or which way is the Giovanni stage, that they wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: be able to say it's that way. Literally, how many
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  Speaker 1: people did we ask, Annie? Like 15 of like, where
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  Speaker 1: do I go for the SVIP place? Where's the bathrooms? Literally,
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  Speaker 1: nobody knew. One email I got, because let me tell
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  Speaker 1: you something. If there was ever a convention full of
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  Speaker 1: people that might have Karen tendencies, it's fucking BravoCon. It's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of Karens. And a good thing about a
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  Speaker 1: Karen is is that they know when they've been wronged
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  Speaker 1: and they know how to write an excellent email afterwards.
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  Speaker 1: And some of these girls were writing me to be like, Heather,
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  Speaker 1: can you get the word out? I want to give
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  Speaker 1: you the scoop of what went wrong. So there were
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  Speaker 1: some things that went wrong. I think for the most part,
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  Speaker 1: it's really fucking fun. I don't like that people are like, ew,
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  Speaker 1: what is this? Who would go to a convention about Bravo? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so what about Comic-Con? What about Crime-Con? What about the
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  Speaker 1: millions of thousands and thousands of dollars that men over
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  Speaker 1: their lifetime spend on going to football games? You know,
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  Speaker 1: if you want to spend $ 5, 000 or $ 6, 000 on a
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  Speaker 1: blowout killer weekend in New York once a year, I
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  Speaker 1: think this is a great, fun... freaking thing to do.
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  Speaker 1: So anyway, that's what I was going to say about that,
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  Speaker 1: what I heard and that like, you know, some of
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  Speaker 1: the seats that were reserved for the people that had
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  Speaker 1: the special tickets, they didn't get to sit there. At
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  Speaker 1: one point there was this stampede because Andy walked out
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  Speaker 1: right before Real Housewives of Beverly Hills panel, which everyone
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  Speaker 1: thought was going to be, you know, the juiciest moment
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  Speaker 1: of all, which I did too. And I had the
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  Speaker 1: special bracelet and But at that point, it was too
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  Speaker 1: late and I didn't have a seat. So then I
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  Speaker 1: just went to a few rows where I saw people
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  Speaker 1: had saved seats. And I said, who would like to
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  Speaker 1: give me their empty seat next to you that you're
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  Speaker 1: saving for no one? I will give you all the
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  Speaker 1: juicy scoop. And a very nice woman named Chris. said,
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  Speaker 1: come sit next to me. If you've got nothing nice
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  Speaker 1: to say, sit next to me. So I'm like, I'm
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  Speaker 1: right here. So I sat right down and the girls
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  Speaker 1: all look gorgeous. Yes, they started to boo when Renna
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  Speaker 1: walked out. She had a long walk. But by the
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  Speaker 1: time she got on the stage, she flipped them off
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  Speaker 1: and they cheered. So to be honest, there was really
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  Speaker 1: not much juice in that. I cover a lot of
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  Speaker 1: this on the live stream if you want to watch that.
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  Speaker 1: But that was something that was interesting. Also with Heather
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  Speaker 1: Dubrow at the Watch What Happens Live taping, they were
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  Speaker 1: having technical difficulties, so that took a long taping. But
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  Speaker 1: if you were there, it was kind of fun because
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  Speaker 1: Andy was– between the breaks, he was– not for the
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  Speaker 1: show to be seen, just for the people in the audience.
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  Speaker 1: He was going around and asking all the different talent.
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  Speaker 1: There was 140 people on stage, different questions, and that
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  Speaker 1: part was really fun. So I believe he went up
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  Speaker 1: to Tamara, and he's like, Tamara, you're back. How's it going?
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  Speaker 1: And she's like, well, I'm saving the show. I'm making
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  Speaker 1: it watchable, something like that. And then they go, what
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  Speaker 1: do you think, Heather, who was down at the other
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  Speaker 1: end of the row from her? And Heather Dubrow basically
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  Speaker 1: said something like, Well, I believe the whole is greater
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  Speaker 1: than the sum of its parts or whatever that expression is.
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  Speaker 1: And she was very eloquent. And, you know, if she
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  Speaker 1: was running for Miss California, though I do believe she
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  Speaker 1: was in a pageant when she was younger. I want
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  Speaker 1: to say she was like in Miss Syracuse or something
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  Speaker 1: as a former Miss Tarzana contestant. She said it beautifully.
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  Speaker 1: It was very nice, but it was one of those
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  Speaker 1: answers that I definitely think she had thought about and
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  Speaker 1: it was good. So I think OC is going to
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  Speaker 1: be really good. And, um, but yeah, you know, did
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  Speaker 1: Erica Jane maybe snub her possibly, or she didn't even know,
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  Speaker 1: or like I said, you're distracted and. whatever. Oh, she
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  Speaker 1: was Miss Syracuse. She was Miss Congeniality in the New
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  Speaker 1: York State pageant. Good for you, Heather Dubrow. You handled
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  Speaker 1: yourself great when asked that question. I was there. Now,
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  Speaker 1: Jen Shaw of Salt Lake City. The last two days
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  Speaker 1: of this was going crazy, between Saturday and Sunday. Apparently,
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  Speaker 1: ever since she said that to court, yes, I am guilty,
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  Speaker 1: she is now going to be sentenced. I think it
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  Speaker 1: got pushed. It was going to be November, I think
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  Speaker 1: it got pushed to December now. According to the sources
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  Speaker 1: that I have, allegedly once she admitted to being guilty
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  Speaker 1: after she had said over and over, I'm innocent. She
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  Speaker 1: said it on Watch What Happens Live. She said it
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  Speaker 1: to Andy. She said it on interviews. She said it
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  Speaker 1: to her castmates, her producers. Once she admitted to her guilt, they... said,
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  Speaker 1: we're done with you now. We're done with you. And
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if that means she's not going to
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  Speaker 1: make any more Watch What Happens Live appearances up until
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  Speaker 1: she goes to prison. Does that mean she won't go
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  Speaker 1: to the reunion? But she was not invited to participate
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  Speaker 1: in BravoCon. But she showed up anyway to New York
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  Speaker 1: City in a ball gown with her glam squad and
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  Speaker 1: went to the hotel that they were all staying at.
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  Speaker 1: And according to Tamra, went to Tamara's room and plopped
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  Speaker 1: in her makeup chair and got some free touch-ups and said, well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm coming anyway. I'm going to come to the Watch
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  Speaker 1: What Happens live taping right now. And Tamara then let
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  Speaker 1: Andy know or somebody know, and they said, we have
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  Speaker 1: extra security. You're not welcome. She then went on to say,
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  Speaker 1: this is all not true. She went on Twitter. It's
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  Speaker 1: not true. I was paid anyway for BravoCon, so there. Well,
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  Speaker 1: you don't get paid before you make an appearance. I
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  Speaker 1: believe what happened is they're told they're going to get
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  Speaker 1: their paycheck for their time, which I don't think is
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  Speaker 1: a lot of money. Of course, their accommodations and everything
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  Speaker 1: are covered. But I don't really know how much I
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  Speaker 1: care in glamour covered. I know they have to get
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  Speaker 1: their own outfits. So it's not like a money-making experience
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  Speaker 1: for these celebrities, these housewives and stuff. But I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if you want to play the game and keep your job,
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  Speaker 1: be a corporate girl and show up. But in this case,
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  Speaker 1: I think that, um, you know, I think she got
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  Speaker 1: herself there and she's pretty delusional and I think they
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  Speaker 1: really are done with her. So I, my question is,
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  Speaker 1: will she do the reunion or she will, she will
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  Speaker 1: do the reunion because that was part of her contract
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  Speaker 1: before she said she was guilty. I don't know. I
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  Speaker 1: find this really juicy and I want to know more
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  Speaker 1: about it. Um, of course I was watching Salt Lake
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  Speaker 1: City and, um, I think that one is getting juicier, too,
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  Speaker 1: the actual show. They did announce the new cast members
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  Speaker 1: for The Real Housewives of New York. And the women,
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  Speaker 1: I don't really know any of them, but they're all
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  Speaker 1: very attractive. They look to be all in their 30s
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  Speaker 1: or early 40s. Many of them are mothers. And businesswomen,
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  Speaker 1: they all seem to have somewhat of a legit career.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, there's a plastic surgeon's wife. I feel like
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  Speaker 1: that is like every franchise needs to have one plastic
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  Speaker 1: surgeon's wife. Everybody has a lot of people on Instagram,
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  Speaker 1: a good, decent following on Instagram, except one only has 2,000 people.
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  Speaker 1: But this one girl right here, she wore kind of
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  Speaker 1: a crazy outfit. Her juicy scoop is she had a–
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  Speaker 1: she's like a designer. She does everything from like clothing.
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  Speaker 1: She used to work for like J.Crew or something. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: she was married with a couple kids or a child,
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  Speaker 1: and now she's a late-in-life lesbian with a woman. She's
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  Speaker 1: also sporting like natural gray kind of hair in the front,
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  Speaker 1: which as I age– thank God for Madison Reed. But
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. If this is a trend to let
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  Speaker 1: the gray come– I might enjoy it. Not right now,
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  Speaker 1: but good for you, girl. But also when you're going
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  Speaker 1: gray at 30, it still looks kind of better on
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  Speaker 1: your face. But so they're all like very chic. They
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  Speaker 1: all live in the city. And I think the whole
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  Speaker 1: thing is like, let's invest in younger women because hopefully
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  Speaker 1: they're going to, I think the goal of Bravo is
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  Speaker 1: that these girls are a hit. And just like the
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  Speaker 1: previous cast of Real Housewives of New York, they go
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  Speaker 1: on for 15 years. So the next question is, are
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  Speaker 1: they going to do the Legends of New York cast?
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  Speaker 1: And here is my prediction. There's no, there's nothing in
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  Speaker 1: the works about that. So I think what's going to
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  Speaker 1: happen is they are going to, wait a minute, they're
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  Speaker 1: going to also see, let me get to, they're going
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  Speaker 1: to also see how Luann and Sonia's new show, Welcome
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  Speaker 1: to Crappy Lake, does. They showed that trailer where the
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  Speaker 1: two of them go on some adventures in a small
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  Speaker 1: town and very much like The Simple Life. And then
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  Speaker 1: we saw that trailer during one of the panels. I
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  Speaker 1: think they're going to see how that does before they
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  Speaker 1: think about bringing any of the cast back together for
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  Speaker 1: a real season of Real Housewives. My prediction is they
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  Speaker 1: definitely will still employ Ramona, Sonia, Luann, And, you know,
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  Speaker 1: probably Jill Zarin, too, and Cynthia Bailey. The legends of
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: the franchise that are not currently on cast are just
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: going to do more of those ultimate girl trip things
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: because financially, I think to pay them each about $ 100, 000
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: for a week and only pay a crew for a
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: week and still get eight, nine episodes out of it sometimes,
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: and they're so well-received and they're so juicy that it's
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: like a win for everybody. And it's also kind of
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: a win also for the for the talent, you know, they're, they're,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: they're not sharing their families. They can just have fun
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: for a week or it's not so fun, but still
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: they knock it out and they stay relevant and they
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: can still come back to Bravo con and we still
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: get to see our girls and kind of, that's the
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: direction I think they're going to go in because I
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: think the complaint of like bringing the legends back of
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: New York is like, I don't know, do we need
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: to see, you know, Sonia get drunk and, Ramona possibly
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: say something that offends somebody and then apologize for it.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: I just feel like right now they are going to
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: take this time to break from it to kind of
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: see where to go. But, um, you know, I love
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: all these girls and, you know, love Luann. And so I, I,
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: I want them to always still stay in the franchise,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: but that's what I think they're going to do. I
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: think they're going to let the new cast of New
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: York breathe for like a year being the only New
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: York cast is my prediction. Um, Okay, the other great... Okay,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: the ultimate girls trip, which won't come out until 2023,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: season three where they go to Thailand. Is it Thailand?
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: That looks really funny, really juicy. Annie went to a
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: producer session on it on Friday morning, and the question
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: came up, did Leah of New York throw elephant shit
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: at her cast and then have the Thailand government throw
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: her out? And they said, well, there was... there was
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: water with elephants and there was shit in the water
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: and they wanted them, all the girls to get in there.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: The producers did and the girls didn't, but Leah did.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: And then when she got in there, then she splashed
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: the elephant shit water at the other girls. But it
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: was your understanding. She was not thrown out of the country, right?
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: She was not thrown out of the country, but that
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: incident did happen. They showed a small clip of it. Um,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Which is so gross. I was always really grossed out
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: when they also went to the Bahamas and they'd go
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: on those horseback riding in the ocean and then you'd
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: see the horses shit and then like one of them
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: would fall off. Like I'd never want to be in
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: bodies of water with animals and their shit. Like, ugh. Anyway,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: so good for Leah. Leah was wearing a real weird outfit.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: I forgot to put a photo on in here where
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: she had a cone bra on and pants. So very
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Julia Fox of her. And I thought maybe they would
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: have included her in the new cast because she is younger,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: but they did not. So I think she's probably, I
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen to her. But that's
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: not a great sign.
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• 20:41
  Speaker 2: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: have faced tremendous setbacks and yet somehow have found a
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: Life is one long lesson of chaos. I'm heading to
• 20:58
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• 21:00
  Speaker 3: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: what would you do if it was given back?
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Where did that need come from where you thought that
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: He said, I have a work dad.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: I need a home dad.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: What happens next? When I came in, he started crying.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: those hard moments that they go through. It's about what
• 21:22
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• 21:24
  Speaker 3: I decided to risk it all.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: I realized how valuable every day was.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: You're worth the work.
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: Listen, Dara, I'm not going to pull punches.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: You can use your voice even if it shakes.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Um, let me see what else I have here. Uh, Jen,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Jen from Real Housewives of, um, New Jersey. So as
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: you know, they, they split up the panels. They were
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: all supposed to be together with their spouses. They split
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: up the panels and, um, so that, uh, Teresa and
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Louie and Joe and Melissa were not together and they
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: were asked about it. And Melissa said it wasn't because
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: of me. I, I looked forward to being on the
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: stage with Teresa and telling her what I think. It's
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: my understanding they made calls to make this split happen.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Teresa said, no, it's not true. She acted very innocent
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: throughout the whole weekend about it. But in this panel, Jennifer,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: who is good friends with Teresa, who was on the
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Teresa panel with their spouses, said, I think Joe and
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Melissa are hanging on for dear life. They're trying to
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: do anything and say anything to stay on this show.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Because their days are numbered. Something to that effect. It
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: got back to Joe Gorga. And fans caught them in
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: the hallway of the hotel that they're all staying at.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: And he called Jen, like, desperate. A desperate loser wannabe.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Joe Gorga did. And Jennifer took a drink, a full
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: drink in her hand, and threw it at him. And
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: it was caught on video. And there was one guy
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: in between. I don't know if he was part of.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: the security of the hotel or someone's assistant, he got
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: a little bit wet, but the drink was definitely being
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: thrown at Joe Gorga. So, I mean, that season is
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: going to be crazy good. And then Katie from Real Housewives, sorry,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: from Katie Maloney, who I got to enjoy. I went
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: out to dinner with Katie and Lala twice, along with
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Sophia F from her podcast, from the Sophia F podcast.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: We had a lot of fun, but Katie revealed on
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: her panel with Vanderpump Rules that she's dating a 25-year-old. Listen,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: I got lots of juicy scoop from that weekend, and
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: that's just the tip of the iceberg and the juicy tip,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: if you know what I mean. And so I think
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Vanderpump's going to be really good, and I definitely feel
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: like there's two teams, which is crazy because it's Katie and, like,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: you know, her friends, which is basically Lala and some
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: other girls. And then the other side is her ex-husband now,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Tom Schwartz. We know that he got together with Raquel
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: and then the, so there's a lot going on. And
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: I think it's been really juicy here. A couple that
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: we saw their entire relationship, their breakups or fights, their marriages,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: their marriage and their wedding and everything. We have a
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: couple that we've watched for 10 years get divorced. Like
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: I think, there's going to be a lot to watch
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: and to observe on that show. So I think that's
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: something to look forward to. And so here's my idea,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: you guys. If this comes back next year, which I
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: also have a prediction that I wouldn't be surprised if
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: they skipped next year and they do it like every
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: other because it's such an undertaking. But I also think
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: they made a lot of money off of it. So
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: my suggestion to you, if You do not have unlimited funds. Now,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: if you have unlimited funds, go buy the three-day SVIP ticket.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: And that way it's like getting a year-round pass to Disneyland.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: You don't feel like you have to be there all day.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: You're good. If you go four or five hours, you'll
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: feel like you got enough. But if money is an
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: issue and it's the same program in the future, I
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: would say get the VIP ticket for one day and
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: buy the add-ons for that day. Kill it. on that day.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Trust me, if you're a big fan of all the
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Bravo stuff, you're bound to at least see one or
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: two things you're truly interested in and kill it like
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: you would Disneyland. Wear tennis shoes, wake up early, have
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: some snacks with you. Also, study the Javits Center. Know
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: where all your stuff is so that you know to
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: run 15, maybe leave a panel when there's like 15
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: minutes left, possibly, if you have to, or you know, this,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: cause I don't know how they're going to work next year.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: They may not allow saving seats. So like, you're gonna
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: have to really plan it out, but also feel like
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: you got the most out of it. Definitely do the
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: photo booth things, which I couldn't do because too many
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: people were coming up to me.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Sorry.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: But like that, that stuff is really funny, fun seeing
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: the walking around to all the different booths. You want
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: to make sure you do all that. I think all
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: in all people had a wonderful time. Nothing is perfect. Essentially,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: it's the first time they really did it because three
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: years ago didn't count. It was in a completely different
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: space and was like, you know, not even one tenth
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: of the size. So that is my suggestion. I loved
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: doing my show. I had a great weekend. We had
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: so much fun and. Everything is at heathermcdolland.net. Next is
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: we're going to see you this weekend in Vegas. I
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: just spoke to my agent. There are some tickets left,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: and that is with Chris, Justin, and Brandy and Julie.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: That is going to be all the pop culture juicy
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: scoop that we will cover some housewife stuff there, too.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: So it's going to be so funny and juicy. We'll
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: see you at the Venetian this weekend. Everything is at heathermcdolland.net.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: After that, I've got, I think, Second Show Dallas. There's
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: still tickets available. Boston is almost sold out. Philly and
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: DC are all almost sold out. So go get those tickets.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Those are all with Chris Vangela. Texas is with Justin.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: And then I'm going to take a little bit of
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: a break. So this has been a lot of fun.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: And now for my very juicy interview. Hello and welcome
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: to Juicy Scoop. I'm very excited to talk to you.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: One of the prettiest girls I think I've ever seen.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: So hop on over to YouTube and subscribe if you're listening.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: It's Lindsay Palos. I'm going to put up your Instagram.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Is it true or not true that you are, in fact,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: a Juicy Scooper yourself?
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: Heather, I am one of your biggest fans. Like, seriously,
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: huge fan. Big Juicy Scooper. I love Chris Franjola, Brainy
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: and Julie. Everyone, I'm a Tuesday, Thursday. It's like crack.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: Thank you for your service.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Thank you. I love it. I think I started following you,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe like a year ago. I came
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: across a podcast that you did, you're a guest on.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, this girl is so interesting. And then
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: I'm like, my God, I go to your Instagram, 8.7
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: million followers, absolutely stunning. The main picture is teeny tiny–
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Do you believe that you started the trend of under-tit cleavage?
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: No, I wish I did.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Who is the pioneer of that movement? It's fascinating to
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: me as someone that always, you know, wore a triangle
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: top to support the bottom of your tit. And now
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: it's everywhere. Girls are all wearing their bikini tops the
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: opposite ways. Nobody's showing top cleavage. Side cleavage had a moment.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: No one gives a shit about the sides. It's all
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: about the bottom. And why do you think that guys...
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: are asking for bottom tit fun. What is going on?
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: I feel like guys just want any kind of tit fun,
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: so you just provide whatever kind you've got. So if
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: you've got overflow, we work with that. If you've got
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: the side tit, we'll give them that. Everyone's got a
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: little under tit, right? It's just like a universal.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but now it's just like such a fashionable thing,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: like have a crop top that's really cropped.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: I can't wear those either. I don't know.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: What do you mean you can't?
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: Mine would flop around. You know what I mean?
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Your boobs in person don't look as... Uncontained as they
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: are on your Instagram.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: But your boobs are real. Yeah. Which is fun. Yeah.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: It's been interesting. It certainly shaped a lot of my
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: life experiences, you know. And I grew up in Louisiana,
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: so having huge boobs. with a bit of an outgoing
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: personality got me into some trouble. And people didn't like that.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: And it made me kind of a different, you know.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: I just realized that here I am, a mother, female
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: empowerment woman. And you come on my show, and all
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: I did was start the show talking about your tits,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: like a gross, like, shock jock in, like, Mississippi or whatever.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know, somewhere where, like, I used to do
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: morning radio when I'd go do stand-up, and it would be, like,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: the worst. And I remember one time this PR person
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: at the comedy clubs is like, do you want to
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: go to this guy's radio show? Because like Natasha Leggero
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: and Whitney Cummings won't do it because he's such a pig.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, I still have a hundred tickets
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: to sell. So I'll be with the pig. I don't
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: fucking care. So I'm just, I'm like, okay, let's. So anyway,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: I was into you because not only are you just
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: really pretty, but, um, I'm just kind of interested in
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: your story. And you're really successful as Instagram model, normal, regular,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: legit model, but then doing your own thing on OnlyFans,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: which I am really fascinated by. And I think it's
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: great and how different people use this, that they can
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: be their own boss and, you know, not to be
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: dependent on anybody. So I want to get into that.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: But so let's just start a little bit of like
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: how you got your start. So you were this girl
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: in Louisiana.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, girl in Louisiana, huge boobs. They were crazier. They
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: were crazier when I was younger, too, because I had
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: all that subcutaneous fat.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Now, were you that girl that, you know, got her
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: period young or were you overdeveloped too young? Because I
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: always think that's difficult for pretty girls where all of
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: a sudden you're playing with Barbies and the next there's
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: grown men can't help but notice you, you know, and
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: it's like.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, you're so dumb when you're young. So
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: like I didn't realize when I was I had to
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: be a cashier at a grocery store. That was my
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: first job I was forced to have. And like grown
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: men would bring me gifts. And I didn't think that
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: was odd. And now I'm like, oh, that was so
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: fucking crazy. So you were like 16? Yeah, 16. I
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: had teachers that made comments about boobs. What would a
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: teacher say? I'll never forget. I had one teacher who
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: was speaking with a woman teacher. There was a man
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: and woman. And they said, yeah, and she must be
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: 100 pounds soaking wet. And look at those things. And
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: they just. They just kind of laughed about it. Like,
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: it was just weird.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Right in front of you. Yeah.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: It wasn't so... It didn't feel that terrible.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Did you ever have a teacher hit on you? For real?
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe. I don't know.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Maybe not.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know if I gave that
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: inviting personality. I seem like a problem.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: It's probably... It's not the inviting personality, actually. It's usually
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: the girl that's, you know, really shy or quiet and
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: maybe doesn't have a ton of friends, not a lot
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: of confidence.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: I didn't mean to laugh, but yeah, not me at all.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: No, but I think you're too confident. Like, you know
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: what I mean?
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: They.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: the groomers of the predators go after the kids that,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: you know, just the parents aren't super involved in the
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: school that, you know, like the target, the one that
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: they think that they can get to. And so it's
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: not necessarily the prettiest, you know, outgoing girl that is
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: the one that's getting lured upon because they know that Also,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: they probably know that they wouldn't have a chance with
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: someone that's, you know, whatever, already out there. Like, so
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: did you, what was your high school experience? Were you
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: the prom queen? Were you, what was the deal? I
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: was pretty cool.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: I grew up in a farm town. That's pretty cool.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: I grew up in a dairy farm town in Louisiana.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: And so we didn't, we weren't so clicky. Like we
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: loved kind of the nerdier people and the athletic people.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: We could all mesh well together because it was such
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: a small town. And I was voted most ambitious. I
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: was president of the Spanish club, class treasurer.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Do you speak Spanish?
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: Un poco. I tested out in college. I actually knew
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: enough to test out a four years of Spanish in college.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Oh, good.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: I couldn't speak it fluently, but I can read almost
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: any Spanish.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, good. Yeah.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know what I'm going to
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: use that for, but.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Well, use it for you're in LA. You can use
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: it all the time.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: That's great. But everyone speaks.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: So I did good in high school. I was popular.
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And then where did you go to college?
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: I went to LSU.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: I graduated with a history degree.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Oh, so and what was your college experience like?
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: I worked the whole time. I was one of those
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: kids whose parents, my parents are nice, but I earned
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: a scholarship to get to college. My parents are nice. Yeah,
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: they're nice people, but they weren't paying my bills. I
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: had to do, you know, I took care of myself.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: So as soon as I could start working, I worked nonstop.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: And I'd work at Hooters and I'd work double shifts.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Oh, you got a Hooters job. Do you wear those nylons?
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: Oh my God, I wore it all. The experience was wild.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: I still have dreams about it.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: You do? There's a lot of trauma. What do you
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: mean you have dreams that you didn't put in the
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: right wing order?
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: I had those kind of dreams, too, when I was
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: a waitress. Where'd you work? I worked at a place
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: called Carol O'Connor's Place. He was an actor from a
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: show called All in the Family. And I didn't realize
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: at the time, but he probably just had this restaurant
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: as a tax write-off.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: Oh, shit.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: But it was a nice restaurant in Beverly Hills. And I...
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Like one of my scariest moments was putting in the
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: order for everybody when I took it. And it was
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: like these rich Beverly Hills people, like executives or whatever
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: that worked around there. And they said, oh, and we'd
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: like a lamb chop to go. And I was like, OK.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: And I never put in that lamb chop and I
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: put down that check. And they're like, oh, and the
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: lamb chops. And it was like a trickle of pee, sweat.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: And the manager's like, what's wrong, Heather? And I'm just like,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: I might as well just run down Robertson Boulevard and
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: just fucking call it a day because my life's over. Like,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: I just, it was so scary.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: It's scary.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Because I was like, I knew how long the lamb
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: chops took. And I was like, the fact that, like,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: what is going to happen? And they are, who is
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: this lamb chops for? And it's going back to the boss.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: And it's like, but I mean... So what are your
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: dreams about with the chicken wings?
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: Just like I'll forget an order. We did those throwing,
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: you know, we'd like zip it on the line and
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: throw it to the kitchen. So I'd forget it or something.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: But Hooters was a lot of trauma too, because you
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: just got straight up berated and abused kind of all day.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: And they worked us pretty hard. We had a lot
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: of chores. So I was very busy in there.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: And did you get a lot of great tips because
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: you were such an attractive Hooters girl?
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: I got great tips. I will say, though, as someone
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: who was a veteran Hooters girl and I worked at a.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: A veteran. I worked at a Twin Peaks.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: For Hooters, four years, calendar girl. Like, you know, I
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: was on it. Because you start at like a hierarchy.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: You start at like number 60 on the schedule. I
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: probably ended at like four.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: And what's that, like Friday, Saturday night, happy hour? Like
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: that's probably the best.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: Any shift you want, the bar shifts, you know, stuff
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: like that.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: And when you say you were a Hooters girl calendar,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: now do you get paid for that? Was that your
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: first modeling gig?
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: That was my first modeling gig. I don't remember being
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: paid for that, but we probably got promo paid time
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: when we went to sign them around the state. So
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: I went to do calendar tour signings around the state
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: of Louisiana.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: And at this point, is, like, Playboy reaching out to
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: you or anything?
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: No, but I was, like, dying to do Playboy because
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: I'd watch it on TV forever.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Oh, you were watching The Girls Next Door.
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: Love that stuff.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Did you hear my interview with them? I did.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: I love them.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: I love that I got all the frickin' juice.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: So much juice. I saw Kendra the other day at
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: Casa Vega.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Did you say hi? I said hi to.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: Jessica, who's her girlfriend.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: And we met, but— Yeah, but, I.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Mean, Kendra was a little more reserved because when I
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: had her on, she was all about the real estate.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: But she was still honest. Oh, I like that one. Like, okay,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: we all know that we all had to take turns
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: and hop on the old dick, you know? And so
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: then when the two other girls came in, I was
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: just like, all right. And then now they're ready to
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: spill it, you know, because they're, like, doing their thing. So, okay,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: so you're doing the wings. You graduate. Then what happens?
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: Well, I had a bucket list.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Did anybody really bad– was any, like– But he tried
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: to grab you when you were dropping off the wings
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: and get like thrown out. Was there any like dramatic
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Hooters moment? There was.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: When I bartended at Twin Peaks, it's like a Hooters
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: on steroids. It's just, you know, even naughtier outfits. But no,
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: it's still family friendly enough.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Oh, but it's like a different outfit? Yes.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: So sick.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: What's the outfit?
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: We should do a whole episode on restaurants like of Texas.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: But what's the outfit?
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: It's like a lumberjack crop top and like these little
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: khaki shorts.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, I've seen that. Oh, okay.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: We made bank. It was such a fun job. The
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: food was amazing. But one guy called me a slut
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: straight up and my boss heard it. And he picked
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: him up by the shoulders and yanked him out. And
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: I was finally vindicated. But for every guy that got
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: thrown out, I mean, there was 500 who said the rudest,
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: most obnoxious shit. So I learned to deal with men, like, honestly,
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: pretty well.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: And did you have a serious boyfriend during that time
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: or anything?
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: Sometimes, yeah. Yeah, one guy, yeah, I lived with for
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: two years. And I would just go work at the
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: bar and put the cash in a drawer in my bathroom.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: I was addicted to it.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Addicted to making them cash? Good for you.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: It was very fun. Once I could make money, I really.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: And that boyfriend was never jealous of the fact that
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: you'd leave in a skimpy outfit?
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: No.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: Okay. So then when did you come to a light?
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: What happened from Twin Peaks to the boyfriend to– I
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: feel like this is like the Pamela Anderson story.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: Oh, man.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: It gets weird.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: Well, I had a bucket list dream. I wanted to
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: cheer for the Saints. It was something that I thought–
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: and I hadn't danced in a million years. My parents
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: were divorced. I quit dancing. So while I was bartending,
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: I hired a trainer. And I would train on the weekends.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: And then I started cheering for a minor league hockey team.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: Because in my head, I was going to get ready
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: to cheer for the bigger team. So this is how
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: I was going to get my practice and learn how
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: to dance again. I am weird. If I have a goal,
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: I'm going to do it.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: So I did it. I joined this team.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: And don't you make like $ 10 a game?
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: Exactly. I probably lost money for sure. I definitely lost time.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: So I always wanted to be a cheerleader. My dad
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: would watch a lot of football. He was a football
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: player when I was younger. Of course, I like Dallas
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: because I love white cowboy boots. And I was just like...
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: And my mom goes, you know those girls only make
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: $ 15 a game. She knew that. Yeah. And I was like,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: also I never would have made it. But I just
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: remember thinking that. I'm like, my God, they're on national TV.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: They're the reason a lot of people watch. I'm like,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: they only make $ 15 a game.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: No, it's horrifying.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: That's awful.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: It's terrible.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: It's still like maddening how they treat women.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: But I think like could the goal be also that
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: you get to dance and have fun and it's your
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: thing and if you've always been a dancer, whatever. But
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: I always thought, and for SC cheerleading too, USC cheerleading,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: it's more about not even that you meet the players
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: because you're not going to have time with the players, but, like,
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: you meet the rich, like, people that own the boxes or,
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, you maybe get to
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: associate with some, like, eligible people Rich Bachelors. You never
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: thought of that?
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: I was an idiot kid. I just wanted pom-poms. I
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: literally just wanted pom-poms and a cute outfit.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking about at nine.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: I'm done.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: I was like, look.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: I didn't play this game right. Maybe I could be
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: the owner.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: No, that's genius.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: I wasn't there.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: I was an idiot.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: I was like, pom-poms and I'm good. That's all I wanted.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: But I cheered for maybe six weeks once the team
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: started and I was like, I hate how this feels.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: This is not fun. I felt like cattle.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: Because that's how it feels.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: How do you go out and cheer and not slip
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: around on the ice?
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: They have a carpet. They have a carpet to dance.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: But then we'd cheer in like the stadium and it
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: was concrete and it was exhausting. And I just didn't
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: feel like the star.
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: I didn't like it.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: So then what?
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: So then on the internet, I saw that Playboy was
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: having a casting in Dallas.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: And now what year is this?
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: I can't remember, but I was about 23. So maybe
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: seven years ago, eight years ago. And I drove to Dallas,
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: did a casting. And we did a shoot for their
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: internet stuff.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: The bane of my existence. They're not very hot.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: You don't like your photos.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: No.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: But, I mean, you know, I grew into myself.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: I thought that was interesting when I had Holly and
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: Bridget on. No, no, they didn't talk about it, but
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: the Playboy doc talked about it. How there were all
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: these extra things that you do, all these test shoots
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: and stuff, and all the different levels of Playboy that
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: they only found out later that that all... They owned
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: that and made money off of it.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: And they would dangle the idea of being a playmate
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: or a magazine person to get your images for other things.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: But I might have actually been 21 at this time.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: I was much younger. So I was working with, you know,
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: not a full deck upstairs.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: So I shoot with them. Now you're doing full naked. Yeah,
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: I was naked.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: Butt naked. And I ended up posting selfies around that time.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: That's around when Instagram started being cool.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: And I just wanted to, you know, attract boys probably
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: to flirt with. I have no idea, but I'd post
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: a selfie and I'd get like 5,000 followers and it
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: would go on and on. And by the time I
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: decided I was shooting it, but by the time I
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: decided to move to LA, I had 250,000 people following
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: me while I was a bartender in Louisiana, like doing nothing.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: So I moved here with $ 3, 000 that I had left
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: after the moving truck and all the deposits.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: And you were single? Single. Okay. And how'd you break
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: up with a boyfriend with the apartment? You're like, let
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: me just clean out this one drawer and goodbye. Ooh.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Kept your money.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: This one, I had actually been, I left my own
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: apartment by that time. But the boyfriend before, who was lovely,
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: it was a Tuesday night and we were sitting at
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: like a BJ's brewery type spot.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: I like BJ's.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's a vibe.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: But I was like, I literally looked at him and
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: I said, are you satisfied with this life? And he
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: was like, what do you mean? And I was like,
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: does this fulfill you? Like, do you need anything more
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: than this? Because I was having this, like, internal panic
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: that I did.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: That you might just end up at BJ's for the
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: next 7,000 Friday nights.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: And I was going to live and die in Louisiana.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: And that was my story. Because after college, like, everything's
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: set in your mind. But then once you're done, you're like, wait,
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: what's my story now?
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: I think the, like, the last semester or even the
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: whole senior year, even for me, and I was already
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: in LA, but just like that this kind of routine
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: of like knowing that you're going towards a goal, but
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: then you're done with the goal and you don't really
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: know what's next, I think can be a really, really
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: stressful time. And it's a lot of internal stress that
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: people have their senior year. Yeah.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: So I was having these internal gut feeling kind of
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: thoughts that I can't live and die here. I would
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: actually be afraid. I kept thinking I was going to die, honestly.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: I kept thinking I was going to choke on my
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: food or I'd get in a car accident.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: Like I had this Like a chicken wing?
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I have the Hooters.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Did you eat a lot of chicken wings?
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: So much.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: You ate the food?
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: Ate the food. I love the food. Hooters food really
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: was so bomb.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: I've only been there like twice and I have to
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: say the chicken is fucking good.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: It's so good. Yeah, yeah. It's so good. They did
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: that right. Like it's really good. But yeah, I thought
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: I was– I can't live and die here.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: Can Hooters still be like as like risque and gorgeous
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: girls in this like post-woke era of life? Can they
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: still like choose girls that look like you or no? Yeah.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: I feel like even when I worked there, the girls
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: who were cast to work there were pretty different. I
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: think that people would think the Hooters girl would be like,
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: you know, skinny person, big boobs, blonde hair. It was
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: very different than that. It was a lot of different
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: types of women. And the one I worked at had
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: women of all ages, different sizes, different backgrounds. So it
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: wasn't really what people thought, but everyone really.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: Did you ever see Fortune Feimster's Hooters girl?
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: The Hooter shooter?
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: Absolutely. We loved it. I'm pretty sure I watched it there.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: I'm pretty, no, I'm sure we watched that at Hooters.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: She had, that was such a funny, amazing bit. And
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: like since then, I feel like a lot of people
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: have kind of like copied it, but she was the original,
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: just putting her body in that outfit and just fucking
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: killing it. So funny.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: We loved it. No, we definitely saw that whilst working
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: at Hooters. They might've dropped at the same time.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: It was good.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I thought I was going to live in,
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: I couldn't live and die there. I asked the boyfriend
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: at dinner, like, you know, is this what you want?
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: He said, yeah, I love it here. This is great.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: He had baseball on the TV.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: And I was like, I'm out.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: How did you say I'm out?
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: I said, I don't think, no, you know what? It
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: was probably chaos. I'm sure I caused some serious chaotic breakup.
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: I have no idea. Knowing myself at that age, I'm
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: sure I did.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: No, I mean, I think it would be heartbreaking if
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: he kind of thought like, yeah, this is it. I
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: have this beautiful blonde girlfriend. We're happy. You know what?
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: And then you're like.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: I will say, though.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: But he never asked you to marry him yet. You
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: were not engaged.
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: And his name was Aaron. And Aaron did fuck my
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: coworker after that. So he got me back.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: Wait, how'd you find that out?
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: Oh, they did it right in front of my face.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: It was hard times back then.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: I thought you broke up with him.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we broke up with this coworker that I worked.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: With who was terrible.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: She was a terrible coworker.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: She was a terrible waitress or a terrible person? A human.
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: Like all around.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Okay. And not a good Hooters waitress.
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: Hell no. She was annoying, wouldn't show up, smoked weed
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: before the shift.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: Forgot like the ranch dressing.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: She's still a shithead and she knows who she is.
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: But they ended up banging. So we don't feel bad
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: for Aaron. We left him in the dust and we moved.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: To Los Angeles. But they were banging, but you were
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: broken up when they started to bang. But it felt
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: real bad. Yeah, real close to home. Yeah, yeah.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: Real Raquel and Tom kind of vibes, you know.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: What I mean? Oh, from Vanderpump. Yeah, the Raquel and
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: Tom thing in Vanderpump rules for those of you guys,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Vanderpump rules are going to be freaking juicy.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: Imagine if they were working the shift. So I had
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: that dynamic, but working a shift together.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: What I've heard is that's what's going to, it's really
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: going to cause this breakup in the friendships. This is fascinating. Yeah,
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: because how, you know, the girls like Lala that's really
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: close to Katie, it's like, And then there's, I believe, Sheena.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: Is friendly with Raquel.
• 46:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: And so it's like, but then Lala and Sheena actually
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: get along now and are like mommies together. It's going
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: to be juicy.
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: I love it. It's going to be good.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: I'm into them. So, yeah.
• 46:42
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: So then you're like, whatever, who cares? So you leave
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: and you come to LA with $ 3, 000.
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah. $ 3, 000 left.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: Now, how do you find your apartment and all that?
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: The internet.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: It was $ 1, 700.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: The World Wide Web.
• 46:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: The World Wide Web.
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: I was also looking for jobs on the internet at
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: the time. So I was like trying to find a
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: cocktail waitress job or something I knew how to do.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: I ended up bartending at the Avalon, which is on
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: Vine Street by Capitol Records. And that was the last
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: job I'd ever have to clock into.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: Which is pretty fun. But, yeah, I got the job
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: off Craigslist. I barely, barely made it by for a while.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: You mean financially? Yeah, financially. I mean, I barely survived.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: Were you living by yourself?
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, living by myself with my dog. And I ended
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: up meeting– So the first night I go out, I
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: go to Warwick and someone says, oh, we're going to
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: the Playboy Mansion tomorrow. It's like a Halloween party.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, the Halloween parties were the best. Did you have
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: a good outfit to wear?
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: Well, I didn't know anyone. I didn't have a ticket,
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: an outfit, anything.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: I imagine you being like in Mean Girls.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: I'm Katie.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you go and you're like wearing something scary. They're like, wait,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: it's the Playboy Mansion. You need to go to Trashy
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: Lingerie and drop $ 600 on a corset.
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and get some Molly and do so many other things. No,
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: so this stranger at Warwick gets my number, and the
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: next day he goes, hey, we can get you into
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: the party. Meet us at the Roosevelt at this time.
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: I didn't even have the guy's name saved.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: That's how I got into the Playboy Mansion. Shut up.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: A stranger?
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: A stranger.
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: Divine intervention?
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: A stranger came up to me at, oh, God, I
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: can't remember the restaurant, but, I mean, I see the booth.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: And Bill Maher, he was a friend of Bill Maher's,
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: and I knew Bill Maher from, like, just other parties
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: and comedy. And so then he was like, do you
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: want to go to the Playboy Mansion? I'm like, this
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: guy's never going to call. And the next day then
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: he called.
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: Angels Among Us.
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: And then I did the same thing because it was
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: before I would get on the bus. I didn't have
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: to get on the bus. Like the first time I
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: went was like meeting somebody and driving up to the house.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: That's sick.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: And then I had to do the bus with the
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: commoners who were not commoners.
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: I love that bus ride.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: That was the first time I saw drugs.
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: It really was the first time I saw people just
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: doing drugs.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: You saw people do drugs on the bus?
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: They were the coke and the malt. Like people were
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: taking their drugs before they got to the party. So
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: everything fun would hit them when they made it up
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: the hill.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: They probably were. I was always so clueless about stuff
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: like that. OK, so you get back to you. They're like, Heather,
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: we heard your fucking boring story. OK, go on. We
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: want to hear your good story from just a few
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: years ago. OK, so go on.
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: Well, pretty much. So I go I have underwear that
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: I have at the house. So I go buy a
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: devil horns and a pitchfork. And that's my costume. So
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: I go in underwear and I got the accessories.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: You mean like a lacy red bra and underwear.
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: I had a black bra and black panties and I
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: just grabbed the accessories.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: Because that's all I could.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: Afford and the only thing I could think of. And
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: it rocked.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would think so.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: We hit the bus up the hill. So we get
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: to the Playboy Mansion, and I go to the bar
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: for a drink, and immediately a security guard comes up
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: to me, and he says, Hey, do you want to
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: meet Dan Bilzerian? And I said— Okay. I knew who
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: that guy was from the internet.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Oh, you did already?
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I only discovered him like four years ago.
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: Dan. I missed the window.
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: It was amazing.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. This is Dan's Instagram. He's at 33.6. And this
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: is who I always talk about. His Instagram's amazing. He
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: has videos of all these stunning girls. It looks like
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: he's the only guy there. And they go on all
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: these amazing trips. Mm-hmm. And he has several businesses. He
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: has like cannabis, right?
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this company Ignite. So he does neat stuff. And
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: I think a tequila thing now.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he has a lot going on. Okay, so they go,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: do you want to meet him? And you're like, all right.
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: I'm like, all right. And so he comes up to me. Immediately, actually,
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: TMZ does an interview with him, and he grabs me.
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: So I'm sitting there like this before we even said
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: hi and being filmed for this thing. And then after,
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: he looks at me and he goes, I like the
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: way you jiggle. And I said, this is what the
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: real thing looks like. And then that was it. And
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: so we partied and he kept trying to hook up
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: with me at the mansion, to which I declined. But
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: then we went back to his house, which was crazy.
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: So this is my first night out. I'm 23 years old.
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: We go to the Playboy Mansion. I'm in a Rolls Royce.
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: I go to a house on Blue Jay Way.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: Which is just amazing.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: I am losing my mind. I am like, this is
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: the best night of my life if I die right now.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: This is why I left BJ's.
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God. This is why I left BJ's.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: Sorry, Erin. Hope it was worth it. But, yeah, no.
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: And so, but Dan and I, we hung out. And
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: he's like, look, I don't do like, I can't do monogamy.
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: You know, the girlfriend thing is really tough. But I
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: really like you and I want to hang out. And
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, okay. And a few months would
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: go by and we'd hang out every now and then.
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: Sometimes I'd say, no, I'd be busy and do other things.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: But when you did hang out, you'd hook up. You'd
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: have sex. Yeah.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: And so we hung out for a few months. We
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: went on adventures. I met friends and it was wild.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: And when you'd go on the adventures, were there 20
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: other girls on the private jet with you?
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: Sometimes there were just a few girls, but then we'd
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: go to events and there'd be like 20 there. So
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: sometimes there were a shit ton of girls. Sometimes it
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: was more mild.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: And when you were with him, were those other girls...
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: Joining in on the sex or hitting on him or
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: were they just like happy to get a free trip
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: and glad that you were the girlfriend and they were
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: like fine with it? Oh, no.
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: Everyone wanted to get a piece of Dan for sure.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: And even friends like I'd be– they'd come to a
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: party with me like they'd later– I'd find out they
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: hooked up with him.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: Oh, really?
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: The good news is though I was really– So you'd
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: bring a girlfriend.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: And she'd be like, oh, my God, thank God. Oh,
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: my God, this is going to be the greatest party.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: I've heard about it.
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: And then you'd find out later or would you walk
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: in on them or what?
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: No, I'd find out kind of later.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: You know, but I was really because Dan is a
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: little bit more forthcoming about his behavior than other men.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: It doesn't come off as shocking or crazy or disrespectful
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: or something like that. You know what I mean? Women
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: don't like being lied to. But if you say this
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: is how your lifestyle is, it's up to someone to
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: accept that or not. It's a different story. And also,
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: I'm 23 years old. I know what I'm getting out
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: of the situation. I'm having fun.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: And are you getting fresh dick in other places?
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: No, I wasn't at the time. I'm only, you know,
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: hooking up with one man at a time. I'm pretty
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: lazy in that regard. And we didn't have, we only,
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: we hooked up with one other person one time.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: You had one threesome. Yeah, ever. And that was, was
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: that your first threesome or just your first threesome with him?
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: First and only.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: With him. And how does that, how does a girl get, decide,
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: all right, I'm open-minded. I'm going to try this threesome
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: thing and tell myself I'm fine with it. What goes
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: through your mind?
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: This one, we were at a party. He was having
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: a huge party.
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: And there was another girl.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: At his house?
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: At his house.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: Huge.
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: He had the funnest parties. And so we're at his
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: house and there's another girl.
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: You still get invited?
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: If he were to have a party, for sure.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: Can you please take me?
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: Dude, he would love he would be down.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: OK, you should go. OK, because I'm all for it.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: I'm not a hater.
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: OK, maybe there'll be one in October. That'd be fun.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: OK, cool.
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: But yeah, there was another girl there. And my plus
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: one is my son.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: No, just kidding.
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: That would be the coolest.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. OK, go on.
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: But there's another girl there that he had been hooking
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: up with every now and then, and we just thought
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: it'd be more fun if we joined forces and stole
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: his attention away from everyone else at the party.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: You know? Okay, so when you do your first threesome,
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: because I've never had one. I'm sure that's a shock. And, like,
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: who goes down on whom? Do you both bone him?
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: What is the routine for... I know you had to
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: get a trainer to teach you how to dance. So
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: I don't even know if you'd be good at this.
• 54:18
  Speaker 5: No.
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. No, I wasn't very good at it. I
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: don't think I, you know, I do think maybe the
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: other partners might have been more experienced. So I'm not
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: necessarily sure how many favors I was returning or how
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: active I was in this scenario.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: Kind of unclear. And the memory is a little foggy,
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: to be honest.
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: So then that ends. But it didn't really, but it
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: didn't like freak you out or bother you.
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: It didn't.
• 54:43
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: And the reason why Dan and I can be cool.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: But you were just like, I don't need to do
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: it again.
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, our relationship just kind of fizzled anyway.
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: Like, he, you know, he's running around with all these
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: girls and I start, you know, doing other things in
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: my life.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: And so.
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: Oh, but the best part about the Dan relationship, or
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: one of the greatest parts was when we met, he goes,
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: I want to make you internet famous. And I was like,
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: you know, that wasn't really as much of a thing.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: Right, because this is now like what, like five, six
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: years ago, right?
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: Maybe seven or eight, yeah. Okay, okay. And so it
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: wasn't as much of a thing. And he set me
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: up on my first photo shoot that went viral where
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: I ran in slow-mo in like a tank top.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: And he would post me on his social media every
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: now and then. And it just generated this huge thing.
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: And I had a million followers in six weeks.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: So, you know, me and Dan are cool.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. And so once you had that million followers,
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: now are you living off of– have sponsorships and stuff
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: come to you? What's going on for making money off
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: of that? No.
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: First of all, I had a 23-year-old brain, so it
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: was not equipped to maybe handle sponsorships. A lot of
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: internet fame. But we didn't have a blueprint of what
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: people did at that time.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: Like now everybody knows what to do.
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: How to get sponsorships and brands and all that. Right.
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: Totally. And so when I was bartending at the bar,
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: I remember one day I got paid $ 300 to post
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: a protein shake. And I thought, I just made $ 300
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: in 20 minutes and it would take me about seven
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: hours to go do that somewhere. So I'm going to
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: quit my job and figure this out.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: And that was when I quit my job. And then
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: I was just on this like little scary hamster wheel
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: of Please, God, someone pay me to post something for
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: two years.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: And they did, and I survived. And then by the
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: third year, I ended up getting more lucrative deals that
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: were longer-term partnerships.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: And were you doing, like, legit modeling stuff, like bikini
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: modeling or anything? Oh, my God.
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: Music videos.
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: So now you had, like, an agent. Did you have
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: a legit agent?
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: No, I didn't have an agent ever.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: They would just DM you, and you'd do your own deal.
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: Word of mouth, networking. My hairstylist here, we actually met
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: at a photo shoot, my very first one, ironically.
• 56:43
  Speaker 5: But, um.
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, word of mouth, just like straight up hustling, you know?
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: And now, did anything unfortunate happen with meaning kind of
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: paving your own way with like harassment or anything doing
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: these jobs?
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God, all the time. But, you know, I'd
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: say some of my worst stories were in Louisiana, actually.
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: Workplace abuse and abuse of young women trying to get
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: a job is just rampant. And I remember, you know,
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: I got offered a job to– record radio commercials for
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: someone while I was in college. And the guy, I mean,
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: the word is assault, but he grabbed my breasts and
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: started playing with them while I was there. And I
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: was just a child who was frozen. I think childhood
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: is that age.
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: While you were doing the voiceovers?
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, or in between, I was just kind of confused.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: That is so funny, because did you ever hear the
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: recording of my first... podcasting job here on Podcast One.
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: No.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: The owner of it, I was doing an ad for
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: Third Love and he always creeped me out. But again,
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: I'm of a certain era where they say something sexual
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, you poor old man. You think
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: we're in the same league and we're not. Almost like
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry for the old man that makes the gross things.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: Instead of being like, Hey, you sick fuck.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: Don't talk to me. Like I was, I'm like the
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: reason like girls like you had to suffer is because
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: women like me didn't fucking speak up when it happened.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: We just were like being polite. Actually, Gina Davis just,
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: I saw she came out with a book called something
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: like being polite, where she talks about all these times
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: where she wishes she would have been like, stop it.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: Like on the movie sets and stuff. So anyway, I, um,
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: so that, but I was doing this ad and he was,
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: he was got recorded because I was doing the ad
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: and he was like, um, Oh, uh, and I go,
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: and third love has memory foam, you know, for your
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: breasts or whatever. And he goes, hold on, hold on. Uh,
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: can I touch your breasts? And I'm like, huh? And
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: he didn't grab me, but he said it. And I'm
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: like trying to record this fucking ad, which I'm like
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: not great at recording ads anyway. Like takes me a
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: few times to like get to it.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: Then he's like, Oh, well these hands are memory foam.
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, let me just finish this. And then,
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: And then I left and he was such a dick
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: about me leaving contract-wise, made it really difficult for me
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: to do my podcast elsewhere. And then when all the
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: sexual harassment stuff started to come out, I go, oh,
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: I guess I have my own story. But he didn't
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: touch me. It was no big deal. And then my
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: friend goes, why don't you just play it and see
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: what people think? So I go, okay. So I played it.
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: And what was most amazing is that my listeners that
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: were really dedicated listeners at the time– We're all like, oh,
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: my God, Heather, your whole voice and demeanor changed when
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: you walked into the room. And it's something that I
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: never realized that took, like, someone else to be like.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: How someone, when you're intimidated by an authority figure, especially
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: if it's male, older, more powerful, you know.
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: Got your job in their hands.
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: Like, how. it's so much more when people are like, Oh,
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: shut up. If you weren't happy, get another job. People
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: don't understand like how much goes, how much psyche goes
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: into being the subordinate who's being harassed. Oh my God.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: Even the little bars I'd worked at one time, I
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: got threatened that if I wasn't extra nice to some
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: man who worked there or who frequented the place that
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: I would, my job would be at risk. And, um,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: and I didn't, I wasn't like serving this guy. This
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: guy just had a hard on for me cause I
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: didn't like, he was a rich guy in town and
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: all the girls, some girls would sleep with him. at
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: the place and he didn't like it that I paid
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: him no mind.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: I was just there to work. Like, I don't give
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: a fuck.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: And they threatened me and I called my mom crying
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: and my mom said, walk in there and tell them
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: you'll sue the brakes off them. And I walked back
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: in there and said that and, you know, they shut
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: the fuck up.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: Oh, good.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: But my mom gave me helpful advice there. But yeah,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: so a lot of like my crazy harassment stories, there's
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: so many when you're younger and then as you get
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: a little bit older, you know, not only do I
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: learn to avoid these people or spot them quicker, but
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: I think men know that they can harass people who
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: don't have fully formed brains, not all men, but the
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: men who are abusive, they stick to the.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: That's what I said. They know... Grooming is real. The
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: grooming is real and they know who to target. And
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: if they think that you could be a possible target
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: and you... Call them on their shit or show something quickly.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: Then they move on. It's like I always say Harvey
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: Weinstein didn't have 100 percent track record. There were obviously
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: other people that, you know, said or 100 percent of
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: people say no.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: But there were enough along the way that complied that
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: we have yet to hear from that that kept him.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: To keep doing it. Like when his audio was played
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: and he was like, come on. And the girl's pleading,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: leave me alone. And he's like, come on, everybody does this.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: Just give me a minute. It'll only take a minute.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: But there's all the other people that it worked for
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: why he kept doing it. And then the ones that didn't,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: then of course he sabotaged their careers. But like, yeah.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: It's very interesting. And I think it's so great that
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: in the last few years– It's now becoming like, oh,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: my God. Or even like years later when you're like, oh,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: my God, I was groomed and this did happen to me.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: And I like didn't even realize it and how fucked
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: up it was. And he was 38 and I was 19.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: And like even just because you're legal. Like a 38-year-old
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: dating a 19-year-old is so fucking weird. And then that
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: they always keep with those ages. Like a half always
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: wants someone who's like under 26. Because they're always going
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: to have that enormous power.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: Like, it's not like, oh, I just want to be
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: 20 years younger than my wife. No, when he's 80,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: he doesn't want a 60-year-old.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: He still wants a 25-year-old. Like, yeah. It's very interesting.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: And it's interesting for me, too, because I'm 31 now.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: So I'm at that age where, like, people have, you know,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: and I've read more DMs from men probably than women.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: Most people will ever see in their lifetime. I've seen
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: more male behavior than most men and women in their lifetime.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: Because I'm not some super duper star where like I'm
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: not touching this stuff.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: So I've seen it all. And it's kind of wild.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: And it's wild when you turn 30 and you're like, oh, wait,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: do I really have no value? Or are they trying
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: to con all of us into not realizing their hair
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: falls out and their dicks don't work? You know what
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: I mean? Like it's a great con. Like, oh, my God,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: you're too old when you're 30.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: Well, like.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: Your stuff isn't working sometimes.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: Like, you know what I mean?
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: And also fertility issues while we're here, they're 50% men
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: and women. And we always put the burden on, like, oh,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: they like little girls because they're more fertile. Well, so
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: were fucking you when you were younger. And, like, so
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: we're supposed to like you now that all your stuff, like, no.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: It's just a con. The ruse, you know, I've uncovered the.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: Ruse, so. Yes. No, totally. Like, what did you think
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: of the Adam Levine scandal?
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: I thought I mean, he's texting someone who doesn't have
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: the brain that is fully formed into what is scientifically
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: would be considered adulthood.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: Right. Which is twenty five for women and 30 for men.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: We think like our moral compass should be like America
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: saying you're 18. You can pay taxes and join the military. Therefore,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: let's abide by these. That's not something with a moral compass.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: A moral compass would see an adult around twenty five.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: You know, especially when they're already an adult themselves. But, yeah,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: I thought, what the fuck? So embarrassing, dude. Like, what
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: the– and then to ask about the baby name. What
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: an embarrassing doofus. I know.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: It's so gross. And the baby name thing is so
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: gross because I talked about it before. It reminded me–
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: it reminded me of other people that have done that.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: And when I brought that up, people said, yes, that's happened.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: That's wild. I didn't know that. Or I've been the mistress.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: Where then, you know, or that he reaches or, you know,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: I was seeing someone who was married who said he
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: was going to leave with his wife, goes back to
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: his wife, and then contacts them years later. And it's like,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: I just, hi, you know, hi, Kelsey. I just want
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: you to know, just want to see how you are.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: This is my baby. This is Anna Kelsey. De-rooted insecurity. Like, what?
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: Like.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: How horrible for the wife and what a weird thing
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: to do to just maybe like be able to reach
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: out later.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: Wait, did you say the yoga instructor though? Because this
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: goes to exactly what we're talking about.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: The yoga instructor that he harassed.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: Pretty much taking someone's job.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he harassed many years ago. So this is like
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: 15 years ago or whatever. And yeah, and how she said,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: will you tell the story?
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I find the yoga story the worst. But it's
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: alleged that he's got a yoga instructor. They were working together.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: They were supposed to go on tour together. And she
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: says that he asked for something along the lines of
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: a naked day to spend together. They wanted to have
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: a naked day or something about being naked. And she
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: ends up getting in a big fight with her partner
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: about it.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: Because the partner saw him text her that. Right.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: And then she ends up not going on the tour.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: The job is removed from her future. Like to steal
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: an adult's job.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: And also what was interesting about that is that obviously–
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: It led to a really bad fight with her boyfriend
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: to the point where I think it got physical.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: Which, you know, maybe thank Adam Levine for that because
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: that's not who she'd be with. But at the same time,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: even if a fight doesn't get to a physical point,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: what she was saying is by DMing girls that are
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: not asking to be DMed or whatever, what if their
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: husband or boyfriend sees that?
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: And he is violent.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: Or even if he's not violent and it causes this big...
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: where you're like, I was not calling this. I was
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: not asking for this.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: This has happened for me personally. I had a big
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: brand endorsement deal and someone who kind of worked in
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: the brand endorsement deal was inappropriate, like the way they
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: texted me and it was flirty in nature. And I
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: had to tell my partner, look, I want to keep
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: my job. I don't want to not be able to
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: get paid. And you can see every message. You can
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: even write them back. But I don't want to lose
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: my job because this person's inappropriate. And I feel like
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: if I say no, then I will be And so
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: if you're on my team, I kind of need you
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: to just be OK with this. But that shit's happened.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: That's kind of smart that you did that, though.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: He still yelled it. I mean, he still brought it
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: up in a fight that I was flirting with the boss.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: And I was like, I told you the truth.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, yeah.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: This is not fair. Right. These unwinnable situations are just
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: they're exhausting.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: So then when did you. So you were obviously doing
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: very well at this point. Like. Did you now own
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: real estate? What were you doing with the money you
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: were just making from posting and modeling?
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: Well, I saved it all. So I saved it. I
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: used it to survive in Los Angeles, but I saved
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: pretty much everything. So I was able to buy a
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: house a year and a half ago. And I think
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: compared to my peers, that's probably why it seems like
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: I might be doing better. I've just been saving my stuff.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: I didn't splurge on the car. I don't own a
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: Chanel bag. I knew that I should make my money
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: work for me before... I have a long life ahead
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: of me. I can buy nice shit forever, but buy
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: a house first.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: Before you get the car. And now I got the car, too.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: And then when did you join OnlyFans?
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: Almost, I think, two years ago.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: So it was already up and running at that point.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: Did you have any reservations before joining it?
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: I didn't join it for a long time since it
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: was open because of the stigma. And I thought it
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: was reserved more for strictly adult film stars.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: But then the same group that actually works with Dan
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: Bilzerian and were really responsible for me becoming viral, they
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: convinced these glamour girls to go on the site. So
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: they convinced the UFC ring girls and they convinced some
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: of these bigger playmate or playboy type glamour models. So
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: once those women that I kind of looked up to
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: joined the site, then I did too because I just
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: followed their move and I thought if they're doing it,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: I would do it.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: And so when you joined, was it just explosive? Were
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: you like, I cannot believe I can make this much
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: money in a month?
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It was pretty shocking. Pretty fucking shocking. And I
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: joined on my birthday, so it was quite the birthday.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: Because the first day is kind of like the biggest
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: on the site because people have been asking you to
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: go on it for, you know, a year's time. So
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: then when you started, it was amazing.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: And tell me how when you started, was it immediately like, hey,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: follow for $ 20 a month, and I post this often? Mm-hmm.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: Mine is free. So I don't have a subscription fee.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: I just, people pay for content because if people do
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: the subscription pages, they still pay for content on those.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: Pages.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: And I just haven't done that. I've just kept it
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: free and then people can pay for whatever.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: So when people say, I want to pay for content,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: so that's like a private? Or do you say, like.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: You can caption it like what this entails, right? So
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: this will be photos of this or videos like this.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: You make the caption really flirty. a little bit pervy.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: Oh, wait, I think I went and looked at your
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: stuff once, and I thought, oh, you do have a
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: good hook.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: Naughty caption.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you were like, I'm going to go do some
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: jumping jacks. True.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: Come on over. I mean, you know, if I'm going to,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: it's a great use of natural talent.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: You throw that out. You go, I'm going to do
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: some jumping jacks. If you want to see me do
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: my jumping jacks, Then click on here and then they
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: click on there and then you charge them $ 20 to
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: see the jumping jacks.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: And then it goes to like they have a vault
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: with all the content they've bought so they can see
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: it over time.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: Go back and enjoy the jumping jack.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: But you can also live stream. I love that. I
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: think people really like that on the platform. But you
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: can live stream for an hour and people pay to
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: join the show or like, you know, watch you talk
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: for an hour. In my case, try on multiple outfits
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: or be at a photo shoot.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: So what about like when I was watching– who's the–
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: Who is the girl on Real Housewives of Miami that
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: said she made so much on it? Larsa. Oh, yeah. Okay,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: so when I was watching, Larsa goes, oh, I make $ 10, 000
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: a day. And she said basically that she gets in
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: like one-on-one texting conversations with people where then she'll be like, okay, well,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: for $ 10, I'm going to answer the question. Or for $ 20,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: I'm going to send you a photo.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the DMs are like a huge part. And you
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 3: can– There's also a way where you can kind of
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: only live stream to them. I've never done that before.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: I kind of want to.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: But, yeah, there's all kind of stuff. But people get
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: to talk to you directly, which I think is one
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: of the biggest selves.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: But do you ever have to see their face?
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: You can. Yeah, you can set it up to where–
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: And do you want to? Depends. But I think the
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: site blurs the content before. So just like Instagram kind
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: of does now.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: So you can kind of like decide if you want
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: to click. But, yeah, it's very interesting.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: Because I was thinking when Larsa Pippen was explaining it,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: okay– I was thinking, okay, so let's say I'm model girl, whatever,
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: and I'm going to go do this. If I really
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: wanted to go hardcore with it and really make, not
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: hardcore sex, just make the hardcore most amount of money
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: and stuff, wouldn't it be possible for me to hire someone,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: an assistant of some sort, where I'm like, here's my phone,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: here's a ton of photos. And you could have, like,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: or even multiple people DMing them as you and being like, hey, sexy,
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: want to see my underwear? And then they send the
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: photo of underwear. And you could be, like, on a
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: massage table by yourself. Is that possible?
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: It is possible. And they have agencies that do things
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: like that.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 5: Oh, really?
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: They also have ways to queue content. So you can
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: take the underwear photo with the hey, sexy or whatever
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: and have it scheduled for, like, Tuesday at 6 p.m.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: When you're somewhere else. So a lot of people have
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: all of that stuff already queued.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: But I just thought that's kind of interesting because these
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: guys are thinking that you're actually like going and it
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: might not even be you. And there's no way to
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: prove that it's not you because it's not like a
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: live webcam thing.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: I think everyone is different. But, you know.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: And then have you ever been like, I'm never going
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: to get this dirty and then I've crossed the line
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: and gotten a little dirtier on it?
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: No, totally. Totally. I was very, like, just, like, very
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: strictly lingerie and bikini type stuff. And then the outfits
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: got a little more sheer over time.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: And then, like, I'll shake my ass every now and then.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: And that's about as well.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: But nothing, like.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: No, I'm not doing anything, like, porn, sexual.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: You're not doing masturbation or anything. Huh?
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: I've never even been fully naked.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: Which is kind of crazy.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: And so you're rolling in the dough. How many hours...
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: A day or a week, do you think you work
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: on all this stuff?
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: All the fucking time.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: I know. It's like endless, right?
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: Endless. And it's like being creative nonstop and being in
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: a good mood nonstop because you kind of have to
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: be in a good mood to want to take sexy
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: pictures of yourself.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: Or talk to people or host them on a live stream.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: And I'll notice like if there are months where I'm
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: sick or depressed or something, like the site reflects how
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: I feel.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: And it's a lot of pressure because when you have
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: a great opportunity, you want to use it. And someone
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: like me who the second I could work, worked double
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: shifts and Yes. In college the whole time.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: You have a work ethic.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: I take it very seriously. And I didn't hire the agency.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: I run the page by myself because it's the experience
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: that I thought I'd rather get my followers.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: Right. It seems a little authentic if you didn't, but
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: I'm like– So it's.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: A shit ton of work. Yeah.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 3: And there are times when, you know, I would wake
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 3: up at 5 a.m. and do messages for three hours. But, yeah,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: my routine is kind of crazy.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: It's really– And what did you think about like when
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: the Bella Thorne joined and that kind of changed the dynamic?
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: What was the story behind that? Why people were so
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: mad that Bella Thorne and then they like capped how
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: much people could pay or what was that all about?
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: I think the story was like the content wasn't what
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: was advertised or something like that. Like, but I don't
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: know if that's true because I don't. I don't know
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: what she captioned or what she posted, but people were upset.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: I think a lot of people were just in general
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: upset that celebrities had joined something that maybe was profitable
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: for sex work and people in different avenues. But I
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 3: think the universe is abundant. I think everyone can get theirs.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: But I do think it's a little crass, everyone showing
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: how much money they make or bragging about I just think.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: Well, I think sometimes those are just, like, fake news.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: Oh, those statements can't... I think some of those statements
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: are fake, too.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: Like, I mean, the Catch Me Outside girl made... What
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: was she made? Like, $ 60 million in a year?
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: She's literally, like... Do you think that's real? I have
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: no idea. I have no idea.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, like, that girl over you? Like, she has
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: more people that want to see her?
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know. And then Black China, they said, made... Two?
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: What did they say? I think they said something ridiculous.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: They said she made $ 200 million a month or $ 20
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: million a month or something. I think that was just misinformation.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: But I do think she could make $ 200, 000 a month.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: You know how, like, a month or a year?
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: They said she made $ 240 million a year. There's no way.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: She literally lives up the street from where you are
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: right now. Like, the hout is very nice, but there's
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: no way. And even Tokyo Tyner, whatever her name was.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: Tokyo Tony. Her mom even was like, no. And I go, no,
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: but does she maybe have months where she makes $ 100, 000
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: or $ 200, 000 a month? Yes, I think that is possible.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: You know how you can, like, Google people's net worth
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: and it's just some random number?
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: It's so weird. I've looked at my own and I'm like,
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: all right. No.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: I wish it. I think, like, all that should be
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: taken with a grain of salt.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: And also, I mean... One thing I've learned about living
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: in L.A., like, you can earn money and have no money. Like, people,
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: the way people are responsible with their money, like, it's just,
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: people would be surprised how people actually live.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: So you would never, you haven't paid for yourself to
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: fly private? Hell no.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: I would never do that. I don't, I would prefer
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: the commercial flights because I think they're safer.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: Wait, I want to go back to ask the question.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: But no.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: Wait, I want to go back to these crazy trips.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: So did you ever go on these crazy, Dan, like,
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: What's his name? Bilzerian trips where they're like, you know,
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: in Africa and jumping off cliffs and all the girls
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: are rolling around in two streets together. And like, what
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: if like one girl is just like, like fucking eating
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: like a horse and now all of a sudden like
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: has a pooch and can't like roll around. Has that
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: ever happened? Or just every girl knows to just starve,
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: be happy, take the photos and suck a dick.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: I have no idea. I feel like every, every trip
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 3: is different, every vibe. And I haven't gone on a
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: vacation with Dan in, you know, seven years. But we did,
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: we went on a fun snow trip to, you know,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: we were in Breckenridge and we did snowmobiling and all that.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: And then did everyone have to go out in the
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: snow with just their bikinis on and a snow hat?
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: Not at that time.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 5: Oh.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: But.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: I love those photos, just like a white bikini in
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: the snow. They are cute. And now, does he ever
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: have any friends where someone is like, I know I'm
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: going to not get the main one, but maybe I'll
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: get a second tier dick that has a bank account?
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: He's got, well, I guess the answer to that might
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: be yes. He's got– there's girls all around. He's got
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: guy friends around. And I think a lot of people–
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: I guess there's also a lot of people hanging out
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: with Dan who really enjoy the experience. Like it is
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: a party. It is fun. They're not like vying for
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: Dan's hand in marriage.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: There was one photo I saw where they were all
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: getting on a plane and they all had like Louis
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: Vuitton bags. And they were all wearing like– they were
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: all so thin and they were like tiny little– Um,
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: shorts and like, you know, a crop top and under
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: tit and then just like those giant tennis shoes that
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: are in right now. I'm not, you know what I'm
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: talking about? Yeah. I'm not into that look. But anyway,
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: they're getting on the, and I was like, so did,
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: did every girl get to shop for that bag or
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: they were just given the bags?
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: I have no idea.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: And then how do you get, um, to be asked
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: back and how do you get to be kicked off
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: the list when you're just a pretty girl that gets
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: to go on fancy trips? What is the key?
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: I have no freaking clue. This is the problem.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: I wonder how long you can go without doing anything
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: sexual and still being asked back.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: I would imagine.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: Like, do you have to clean the kitchen? Just act
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: like a delight? No. Because, like, in a non-sexual way,
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: when I'm, like, a guest of, like, a rich person,
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: it's like, did I, was I, A, entertaining enough? Like,
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: I'm the, like, little court gesture. Or, you know, because
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: it's not going to be that I made, like, the
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: killer dinner. Yeah. So it's like, what do you do
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: when you're just in a sea of hotness hoping to
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: be invited back? That's a great question. I literally have
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: no idea. It's hard because we as....
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 3: Like you know we actually met in real life like
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 3: it as weird as that is there was no uh
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: I had no idea what was going on you didn't
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 3: know about the trips no so it's so uh so
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: honest my experience with dance I have no fucking clue
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 3: what these people are like and like what they do
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: I just know how it was when we hung out
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 3: you know yeah I have no idea it's I live
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: I my uh my perception is of like the world
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 3: in Hollywood and LA it's a lot different than I think.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: Anyone would How is it different, do you think, than
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: what people think?
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: I don't have the secret rich husband. I don't have
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 3: a husband. I don't have stage parents. I didn't come
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: from money. I think just those things combined have kind
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: of made my experience unique. I only went to college
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: because I worked my ass off to get a scholarship.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: I only made it here because I worked my ass
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 3: off and, you know, bartended. So I know what it's
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: like to have no money. I know what it's like
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 3: to have money. I've been around the Dans, and I've
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: been around swamp people. So, like, my view of the
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: world is a lot different.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 3: Than most people. And especially being considered kind of conventionally
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 3: attractive or really pretty. I also have that experience because
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: I know I wake up looking like a potato, too.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: Like there's just.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: I don't think you do.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God. No, I got those days. I have
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 3: a very masculine, normal side to me that's fun in
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: the hair. Kind of.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: It's true.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: I really have a boyish side to me.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 3: Explain it.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 5: But.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 3: So, yeah, my— Do the only.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: Fans ever people do, are they asked to see that? Like,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: I want to see right when you wake up, no makeup,
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: and you do that type of stuff.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 3: I post no makeup very often.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: Actually, more than I post with makeup.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: Well, you don't have a lot on right now. We
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: were just talking about before the show started about makeup
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: artists and, like, that now you do your own makeup.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel more comfortable with less. And I think
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: we all went through that phase with, like, the heavy
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 3: lash and.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: The contouring. I kind of, I kind of, I have
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: some heavy lashing contouring. I don't know.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 3: No, it looks good.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: It's hard to get out of the phase of it.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: I never did the baked under the eye.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 3: Oh, I love that.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: Sometimes when I'd watch those things, I'd be like, oh
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: my God, like you, you took found the one step
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: of foundation and made it 12. Like, do you really
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: need 12 steps of like shadowing and shading?
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: And we did.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: And then like the two hours of applicating.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: And yeah, that's just like applying it.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 3: So that's interesting.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: So, um, When I see these young girls, though, I'm like,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know what advice to give them. Like, your
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: advice would be good. Like, I guess my advice to
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: be if you're one of these pretty girls that are
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: a juicy scooper who is listening to this show and
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: you have been on the trips and stuff. I just think, like, yeah,
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: just be a delight on the trip. Get what you
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: can out of it. Followers, friendships. Don't screw over the
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: girl that invited you.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: Like, don't be a friend poacher. Yeah. And, yeah, and
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: just try to work your own thing because it's not
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: going to last forever. Yeah.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 3: I think everyone should have their why with something. Like,
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: sometimes you don't date the guy that you think you're
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 3: going to marry. But, like, if you're having a ton
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: of fun and you're 23 or something, who cares? But also,
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 3: I will tell you a secret.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 3: Guys, like, guys will love the fact that you dated Dan.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 3: They will love the fact that you hung out with him.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 3: Whether they say it or not, they're going to use
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 3: it against you in relationships, whatever. Deep down, they love
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 3: that you hung out with Dan. It is a big
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 3: clout for whoever you want to date next. So just
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 3: get a photo with him and post it on your shit.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: Okay. You know what I find so interesting about that is, like,
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: I was the one hanging out with Jill Zarin and
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: her boyfriend Gary. Yeah. you know, I never even knew
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: like one, I never understood what a one percenter was
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: until like Jill's there and had me stay at her
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: house in the Hamptons. Like I, because I grew up here,
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: you know, um, with parent, like I just thought it
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: was great that my parents could send me to a
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: private Catholic school. Like I thought we were rolling in it.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: Like I didn't even, I never understood what, what generational
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: wealth was. I didn't know what a trust fund was.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: I thought like we have a fucking pool and air conditioning.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? And then I got to USC
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: and they're like, yeah, but where are your other homes?
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what? And I was just like, what do
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: you mean? My grandfather was a fireman. And then I thought,
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: when you graduate from college, that's it. There's no money
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: for a down payment. You've got to make that money.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: So I think it's so interesting. And now I saw
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: this thing where they're like, wow, there's a certain percentage
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: of the population coming up of people that won't have
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: to work. Like, because we've been in America for, you know,
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: 250 years, there is this generational wealth and they don't even,
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: and it's like so weird, you know? And it's like,
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: and I think when you don't know it and, and so,
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: but anyway, getting back to what Gary said. So he
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, you know, we were talking about this
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: person then is the second wife of this person and
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: the third wife of this person. And, and I'm like,
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: and he goes, you know, a billionaire is, wants to
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: marry another billionaire's ex-wife. More than the model, than the 22-year-old.
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  Speaker 1: They want to have what... And I was like, I
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: don't think enough people realize that, but it all makes
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  Speaker 1: perfect sense. It's very true. When you look at the elite,
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: once they... It's like the Yolanda Hadid went from Muhammad
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: to David Foster. And David Foster, she said, David Foster
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: was visiting with Muhammad when they were divorced. And he said,
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: who's that? And Muhammad said, that's my ex-wife. And he goes,
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  Speaker 1: I want to meet her. Now, Yolanda's beautiful.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm saying, like, especially when they're looking for, like,
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: a second or third wife. It's not, you know, once
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: in a while you can be the girl that, you know,
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: took their order at Hooters and married the billionaire or
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: the millionaire. But a lot of it is that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It kind of gives me Pete Davidson vibes too.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Because he dated like the most beautiful person. So since
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 3: she co-signed, you know, she was madly in love. And like,
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: there's got to be something about this guy because we
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 3: admire her so much.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: Your cred goes up because of, yeah. And I always
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: say the same thing with powerful women whose husbands or
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: boyfriends now cheat, whether it be Lamar or Tristan, sorry
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: that she had both, Chloe. But so much of it was,
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: I think girls, I mean, every girl knows that that
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: Tristan and Lamar were with a Kardashian, was with Khloe.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: They can't go, oh, I didn't know. But they don't
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  Speaker 1: care because it's like, like they're probably way more obsessed
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: with Khloe and the Kardashians than they ever were with
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  Speaker 1: Lamar and Tristan.
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  Speaker 3: No, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And it's one, it's one degree closer to the Ks.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's not, Completely agree.
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  Speaker 1: Because there's a million other basketball dicks that that girl
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: probably has the body to get. Yeah. Why is she
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  Speaker 1: with that person?
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  Speaker 3: No, of course. I call it like a shiny penny.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You can like date a guy and like shine him
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: like a, you know, a shiny penny and other people
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 3: look at him now.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: Right. Exactly.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 3: And men can do that too. Like a Dan can
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 3: do that to someone. So it's interesting.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: But then I also think with a Pete Davidson is
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: I think there's that moment. which girls have, too, that
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: kind of step outside their type or just want to change.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: And they're having so much love. And then they wake
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: up and they just see that fucking ugly face next
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: to her. No, he's cute. I'm just saying. I'm just saying.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: I think he's appealing, too. I think he's funny. I
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: get the vibe. But I can see why it's not
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: a forever vibe for someone like Kim. Like, it was
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: a good distraction and fun. But I think she looks
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: over and, like, you know, sees those chicken legs in the...
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: And I have chicken legs, too. But, like, just sees
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: those legs in, like, a pair of socks. And he's like,
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: wait a minute. Like, I've had friends that are, like,
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: go off on, like, a different type. And everyone's like, great.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: Opposites attract. And then they have that moment when they're like,
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: all right, what the fuck am I doing? Like, this is,
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: you know. But I think, yeah, like, who he ends
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: up with, who knows. And I think his strategy is
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: the same, too. Like he had a very serious girlfriend
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: who was Larry David's daughter and she was pretty and
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: she was smart and she was funny. And you would
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: think that, you know, and that was a great match.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: But the minute he stepped out and then started dating
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: the more famous people, then he, all of a sudden
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: his career skyrocketed. And so he loved everything that brought
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: to like, he acts like he's the comedian. There's so
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: many comedians that act like, They're the ones wearing the
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: sloppy clothes and drinking the cheap coffee. And they're like,
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: I don't care about this Hollywood bullshit.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 3: They're so Hollywood.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: And they're the most hypocritical, most Hollywood, most thirst trap
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: people ever.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: The most about flying private, the most about like, you know, oh,
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: I want to be the most famous person. And it's
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: like such a ruse. Like, who cares?
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 3: Just like dating right now is so hard.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So what's your deal now? Romance-wise.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 3: I'm seeing someone. Okay. But we're not– it's tough. I
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 3: think it's just really tough dating with the internet, honestly.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 3: Dating with social media. Dating with people who have these
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 3: crazy different lives and stories. It's hard. If it's not
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 3: one thing, it's another.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: Have you ever gone and met someone through like a
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: legit– just an introduction or like a matchmaker that obviously
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: wouldn't charge you but someone that's like, I have someone amazing.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 4: Mm-mm. No.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 3: No. And I steer I don't want to I honestly
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 3: really don't want to date a really wealthy man. It
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 3: sounds like a good idea, but I'm concerned that like
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 3: there could be a lot of abuse when someone has
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 3: a lot of money. There's a lot of ways they
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 3: can punish you.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: Well, when the when it's such an uneven playing field. Yeah.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: It's like I always say, you know, I know girls
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: that are third and fourth and even fifth wives. And
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: they're so sweet to their husband, like so much nicer
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: than a first wife. Because they kind of have to be.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: And they should be nice. But the dynamic is so
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: different than a husband and wife that, you know, met
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: in their late 20s and got rich together at 50. Like,
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: that relationship. is so different than when that you know
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: 60 year old man is dating or married to his
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: third wife who's you know 30 like it is going
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: to be completely different because it's just a different dynamic
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: and it doesn't mean that it can't work but you
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: got to know your place and then like And then legally,
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff legally that happens. Because if
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: this guy has been divorced three times and your wife
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: number four, you better believe he's going to know what
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: to put in that. And you better make sure that
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: these gifts are actually gifts you can keep. And all
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: that stuff.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 3: Well, you know what? That's so interesting about Juicy Scoop
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 3: and about Bravo. As someone who is a 31-year-old woman
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 3: who's considering marriage and kids or whatever... Man, it makes
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 3: you see things that are really important. Like, you know,
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 3: you can be blamed for the crimes of a man.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 3: And you can see what happens, you know, 10 years
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 3: in to the asshole. Like, you know, it's just very eye-opening.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 3: It's scary.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is. But there's a lot of lessons,
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: life lessons you could learn from a real housewife. True.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, one of mine was just I remember watching
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: Gina Kino go visit her son at baseball games. Which
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: now looking back, I'm like, that kid didn't know she
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: was coming and he didn't know the cameras were coming
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: and he was stressed. And I met Gina and I
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: talked to her about it. I go, I always feel
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: so bad for the both of you that that's forever
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: in a marathon like twice a year. your kid comes
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: off absolutely horrific. But I remember seeing it as, as
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: a mom of boys. And I was like, I never
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: want my son to talk to me like that.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? But so it's like, there's
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: certain things that you, you do gain from like watching.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: I don't want that. Or I do want that.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: Or yeah.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 3: It's tough.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Definitely. So you're out there. I love it. And
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: what's like your, what is like, where would you like
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: to see yourself in five years?
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 3: This is a good question. This is the problem. I'm
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 3: kind of at the, I've done the modeling thing for
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 3: a long time.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 3: And I got a lot of talent.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: I do.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 3: I really do. I have a lot of talents and
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 3: a lot of different things. So I don't know. I
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 3: don't know. I'm like, I'm totally enamored by like design
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 3: and business and I love to write and I've been
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 3: acting and I don't, It would be wrong if I
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 3: put it all into one box. So I have no
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 3: fucking clue what I'm going to do.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: So you are pursuing acting. You really should.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 3: I've got a film coming out.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: Oh, good.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 3: It's pretty good. I was funny in it.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. That's awesome.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I've done some.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: When's it coming out? Soon.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 3: I'm not exactly sure.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: Do you know where we can watch it?
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 3: On demand? Yeah, somewhere on demand.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: Good.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I've done some stuff. And who knows? I
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 3: don't want to limit it. You know what I mean?
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 3: I'd be lying. I'm doing a lot of self-discovery.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: Is it a Randall Emmett film?
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 3: No, but I did do one of those. I did
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 3: one of those.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: Good, good.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I met Randall on a plane.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 4: Oh, my God.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 3: I met him, yeah.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 3: A long time ago, pre-Vanderpump.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, really? Pre-Lala.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, sort of. I thought he was the inspiration
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 3: for Ari Gold. His personality was so strong. I was like,
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 3: is this the guy from Entourage?
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: That's what I thought. I think he was supposed to
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: be the inspiration of Turtle.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 3: Interesting.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: But, you know, because originally he was the assistant to.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: He was the assistant to Mark Wahlberg in real life.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: And then he became, I believe, his agent or manager
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: and then became a movie producer. So, you know.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 3: Very interesting. Very charismatic personality. Very charismatic.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 3: Very interesting story.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: It's a juicy story that continues on.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: Well, I think you're super outgoing and talented and gorgeous.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: And I really enjoyed hearing your life story. And thanks
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: for all the scoop.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 3: Thank you for the scoop.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: Everybody, you can go and follow her. And, you know,
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: see what she's all about on Instagram. And her last
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  Speaker 1: name is Lindsay, P-E-L-A-S. Yeah, thanks, guys. You'll pop right
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  Speaker 3: I got you. I'll do my best. Thank you for
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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