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351. Faith or Fantasy? - The Need For Unreasonable Men · The Impossible Life

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  Speaker 1: You need to be unreasonable about possibility in your life, right?
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  Speaker 1: Stop letting people put you in a box. Stop listening
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  Speaker 1: to voices that say like, oh, well, that's, you should
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  Speaker 1: just be reasonable. You should just accept this is the
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  Speaker 1: way things are. You should just be willing to take
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  Speaker 1: only what's given to you. You need to decide, what
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  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, is you need to decide to challenge limitations.
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  Speaker 2: That's impossible.
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  Speaker 1: Let me tell you what I believe.
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  Speaker 2: Your weakness is not your technique. Don't think you are.
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  Speaker 2: Know you are. The Impossible Life Podcast. You're sitting on
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  Speaker 2: a winning lottery ticket.
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  Speaker 1: An idea that is fully formed, fully understood. That sticks.
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  Speaker 1: This is the Impossible Life Podcast. Because Nick and I
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  Speaker 1: are attempting to live impossible lives. What we know is
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  Speaker 1: that nothing is impossible. So instead of using impossible as
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  Speaker 1: an excuse to not try... we'll use the pursuit of
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  Speaker 1: impossible as an accelerant for greatness. If something's never been
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  Speaker 1: done before, that just means it's unexplored. If they tell
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  Speaker 1: you it's too hard, it's just waiting to be simplified.
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  Speaker 1: Impossible is a default label used by uncourageous people, unwilling
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  Speaker 1: to take a risk. The real truth is this. The
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  Speaker 1: solution to any impossible task starts with this question. If
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  Speaker 1: I had to, what would it take?
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to another episode of the Impossible Life Podcast. I'm
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  Speaker 2: your co-host, Nick Surface, and I'm looking across at a
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  Speaker 2: man so used to defying the odds, he looks at
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  Speaker 2: casinos as a viable source of income. That's right, friends,
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  Speaker 2: the FOMO WC. Garrett Unklebach, the most unreasonable man in
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  Speaker 2: the world.
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  Speaker 1: Odds defier.
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  Speaker 2: That's how you describe yourself in what was still the
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  Speaker 2: greatest intro I've ever heard from somebody at a mindset
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  Speaker 2: or at a mastery course.
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  Speaker 1: 50-50? Those are great odds. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll take it. You know, it's a one in
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  Speaker 2: a million chance. So you're telling me there's a chance.
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  Speaker 1: There's a chance.
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  Speaker 2: That is Garrett Unklebach. All right, G, today's episode, man.
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  Speaker 2: So sometimes we do blind spot revealers. Other times we
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  Speaker 2: do just straight up teachings. This is going to be
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  Speaker 2: a horizon expander because I don't think a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people will have tapped into this And will not think
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  Speaker 2: this way. So this is going to be one to
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  Speaker 2: just absolutely strap on your mindset of I'm ready to
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  Speaker 2: be learned or to learn. I'm ready to grow. I'm
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  Speaker 2: ready to have my vision expanded because that's what today is.
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  Speaker 1: Going to be.
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  Speaker 2: We're talking about being unreasonable.
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  Speaker 1: This is right in the wheelhouse of what this podcast
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  Speaker 1: is about.
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  Speaker 2: For sure.
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  Speaker 1: And this is. You know, there's stuff, we talk about
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  Speaker 1: a lot of topics on the show, so I can't
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  Speaker 1: say everything we talk about is my favorite topic. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I like all the things we talk about, obviously, or
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  Speaker 1: we wouldn't talk about them.
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  Speaker 2: That is true.
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  Speaker 1: Right? Yeah. Nick knows this.
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  Speaker 2: I know this firsthand.
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  Speaker 1: Because sometimes Nick says, do you want to talk about this?
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  Speaker 1: I go, nope.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, dude, this is a really good topic.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just not feeling today. Okay, moving on. I've just learned.
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  Speaker 1: But this talking about, like, this is right under, you know,
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  Speaker 1: top headlines underneath what the show's about. It's the living
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  Speaker 1: the impossible life. We're going to talk about what it
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  Speaker 1: means to be unreasonable today. And this is in Garrett's
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  Speaker 1: zone of that's what I want to talk about all
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  Speaker 1: the time. Great.
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  Speaker 2: And also so much of what we've talked about previously,
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  Speaker 2: because you know what you can't do, G? You can't
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  Speaker 2: run a sub four minute mile. You can't make a
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  Speaker 2: rocket land. You can't make a car fly.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, wait.
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  Speaker 2: All these things are now are happening.
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  Speaker 1: My favorite word. Impossible. Boom. There you go.
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  Speaker 2: Well, so we're not just here to talk about Elon
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  Speaker 2: Musk or Sir Roger Bannister or Sir Edmund Hillary, you know,
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  Speaker 2: can't climb Everest.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, wait, you can.
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  Speaker 2: But what we are is to talk about one man
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  Speaker 2: who was very unreasonable and he did not receive a knighthood,
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  Speaker 2: and that was Jesus. So you want to talk about unreasonable. Really,
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  Speaker 2: I think we miss this. If you don't know, if
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  Speaker 2: you haven't read through the whole Bible, and even if
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  Speaker 2: you have, if you don't understand a lot of what
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  Speaker 2: was considered normal, it's very easy to miss the cultural
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  Speaker 2: context of a lot of what Jesus said. And you're
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  Speaker 2: just kind of like, oh, that's weird. Like he spat
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  Speaker 2: on the ground and put it on that guy's eyes.
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  Speaker 1: Weird.
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  Speaker 2: Or like, why are these people like freaking out about
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  Speaker 2: the Sabbath? Like, you know, he just spoke a word.
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  Speaker 2: And you miss out on what was actually going on.
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  Speaker 2: Jesus was the most unreasonable person of the time. And
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  Speaker 2: there's like 400 examples we could have picked from the Gospels.
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  Speaker 2: But I want to just read. I want to start
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  Speaker 2: with Scripture because we always want to start with Scripture.
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  Speaker 2: John 2, 18 through 22.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So Jesus has just showed up to the temple, looked around.
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  Speaker 2: gone and made himself a whip of cords and just
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  Speaker 2: whipped the people, turned over tables of the money changers
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  Speaker 2: and told them that they had made my father's house
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  Speaker 2: as a house of prayer. You made it a den
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  Speaker 2: of thieves. Okay, now it was normal for people to
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  Speaker 2: come to the temple three times a year. That was
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  Speaker 2: what was required of them. And if you can think
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  Speaker 2: about this, if you're a couple hundred miles away and
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  Speaker 2: you're traveling on foot and then you have to bring
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  Speaker 2: your sacrifice, that's actually, man, now I got to bring
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  Speaker 2: an animal as well. That's an additional piece of complication.
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  Speaker 2: So what they would do is they would have animals
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  Speaker 2: at the temple that you could buy, which is a
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  Speaker 2: service that makes sense for your sacrifice. Now, here's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: We all know when we go to the ballgame, we're
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  Speaker 2: going to pay a lot more for that Coke than
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  Speaker 2: we would if we just bought it at the grocery store.
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  Speaker 1: Location.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: A bottle of water at Walmart is a dollar. A
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  Speaker 1: bottle of Walmart at the gas station is $ 3. A
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  Speaker 1: bottle of water at the ballpark is $ 9.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: A bottle of water at the airport is $ 13. Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: And we all are used to this in industry, but
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  Speaker 2: this is not God's way. And that was what Jesus
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  Speaker 2: was railing against. They were taking advantage of these people
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  Speaker 2: who would show up and be like, oh, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: that little lamb or pigeons or whatever you were sacrificing,
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  Speaker 2: depending on what you were there to sacrifice for, it's
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  Speaker 2: going to be double. So Jesus comes in. destroys this
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  Speaker 2: right so the pharisees come to him this is john
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  Speaker 2: 2 18 through 22 the jews then responded to us
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  Speaker 2: what because they've just seen him do this they go
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  Speaker 2: what sign can you show us to prove your authority
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  Speaker 2: to do all this right because he's gone in and
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  Speaker 2: basically he's not a levite i keep mind there's priests
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  Speaker 2: that are there to to administer all this stuff jesus
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  Speaker 2: is not one of them and he's gone in there and.
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  Speaker 1: Just cleared jesus is the king period jesus is the
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  Speaker 1: king also of being a little unreasonable.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Some of Jesus's behavior I love in the Bible, because
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  Speaker 1: he's just like, I don't have to explain myself to you.
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  Speaker 2: Well, if some dude showed up to your church on
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  Speaker 2: a Sunday and was like, hey, pastor, sit down. I
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  Speaker 2: got this one today. You'd be like, okay, bro.
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  Speaker 1: Like, we're going to go ahead and... Hold on.
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  Speaker 2: We got security that's here for you. I'm saying this
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  Speaker 2: not to encourage people to be disrespectful. This is essentially
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  Speaker 2: what Jesus is doing. They're like, you're not a Levite. Like,
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  Speaker 2: you can't come in here and start like changing things
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  Speaker 2: like this. And especially with such ferocity, shall we say.
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  Speaker 2: And so what he says, listen to this, what can
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  Speaker 2: you show us to prove your authority to do all this?
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  Speaker 2: Jesus answered them, destroy this temple and I will raise
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  Speaker 2: it again in three days. Pretty unreasonable because they replied,
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  Speaker 2: it has taken 46 years to build this temple and
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  Speaker 2: you're going to raise it in three days? But the
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  Speaker 2: temple he had spoken of was his body. After he
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  Speaker 2: was raised from the dead, his disciples recalled what he
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  Speaker 2: had said. Then they believed the scripture and the words
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  Speaker 2: that Jesus had spoken.
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  Speaker 1: All I hear in my head is... The scene of
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  Speaker 1: the police officer in the opening scene from The Matrix
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  Speaker 1: that is in our intro saying, that's impossible. Right.
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  Speaker 2: And think about this. There was no precedence for people
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  Speaker 2: in that time to expect even for somebody to be
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  Speaker 2: able to be killed and raised again. So everything he
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  Speaker 2: said was unreasonable. It's not like it's like, oh, you're
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  Speaker 2: going to build a temple in three days? That's unreasonable.
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  Speaker 2: But hey, raising yourself in three days, that's not unreasonable.
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  Speaker 2: The whole thing was unreasonable. And that's the point we're making.
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  Speaker 2: There's a great quote from George Bernard Shaji that we love,
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  Speaker 2: and it says, the reasonable man adapts himself to the world.
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  Speaker 2: The unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world
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  Speaker 2: to himself. Therefore, All progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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  Speaker 1: And that is, that quote there is the reason we're
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  Speaker 1: talking about this today. And it's really the last line
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  Speaker 1: there that matters. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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  Speaker 1: I am persistent for the rest of my life and
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  Speaker 1: I will be a part of progress. Right. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: saying like I want to advance human civilization. I do.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean more so from a kingdom perspective. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I will not have been a I'm not going to be,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to be someone who's like, you know, Jesus,
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  Speaker 1: I rooted for the team the whole time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: I want to say, Jesus, I was on the field
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  Speaker 1: and I made a play.
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  Speaker 2: You're progressive in the right sense of the term, not in, hey,
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  Speaker 2: we're just going.
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  Speaker 1: To label ourselves that. I'm not trying to be the
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  Speaker 1: guy or thing, you know, comparison. I just want to
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  Speaker 1: be able to get to heaven and say, God, I did.
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  Speaker 1: You see that one little brick? Like, I laid that brick. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to be, I don't want to be
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  Speaker 1: a lack of progress. And that's the whole point of this.
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  Speaker 1: If you are reasonable, if you just agree with everyone,
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  Speaker 1: if you just go with the flow, the best you'll
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  Speaker 1: ever have been was a fan.
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  Speaker 2: Right. And I think some people could be going, okay,
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  Speaker 2: where's this going? Are you guys just going to give
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  Speaker 2: me a license to just shoot from the hip, say
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  Speaker 2: everything that comes to my mind?
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  Speaker 1: I will say. No. I'm not doing that. But prepare
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  Speaker 1: yourself for people saying that's what you're doing.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Trust me, I've heard it for a long time. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I believe that.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so G, we're laying the foundation for what unreasonable
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  Speaker 2: is because I don't think a lot of people think
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  Speaker 2: that being unreasonable is a good thing. Typically, this is
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  Speaker 2: a bad thing. It's like, you're so unreasonable, right? That's
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  Speaker 2: like an accusation against somebody I've never heard in a
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  Speaker 2: positive light. No one has looked at Elon Musk and said,
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  Speaker 2: what an unreasonable guy. It's like, what a genius. He's
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  Speaker 2: an inventor. He's a visionary. No one goes, what an
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  Speaker 2: unreasonable guy. So from a kingdom perspective, what does it
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  Speaker 2: look like to be unreasonable?
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  Speaker 1: Right, so yes. We're going to talk about unreasonable from
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  Speaker 1: a lot of different ways, but let's just, this is where,
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  Speaker 1: what is so important to the impossible life. We are
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  Speaker 1: always grounded biblically. Here's some things I want you to
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  Speaker 1: be unreasonable about, right? Why does this matter? I want
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  Speaker 1: to help you be unreasonable in your marriage and your
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  Speaker 1: business and a lot of things in your life. And
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  Speaker 1: we're going to get to that good stuff. But most importantly.
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  Speaker 1: here's just starting out at the beginning, the things that
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  Speaker 1: you need to be unreasonable about. Number one is your
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  Speaker 1: standards in life. Okay. That is where people like, here,
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  Speaker 1: let me give you another phrase that like, there's some
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  Speaker 1: phrases that if I ever meet them in person, I'll
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  Speaker 1: punch them in the face. Okay. Um, the one where
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  Speaker 1: people are saying, y'all, you're so unreasonable.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Here's another one that relates to this topic of, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, you need to be unreasonable about your standards.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the one that people come at you with trying
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  Speaker 1: to get you to be reasonable about your standards and say,
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  Speaker 1: oh man, come on, just live a little. Right. Live
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  Speaker 1: a little. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And my internal response to that is no, thank you.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to live a little. I want to
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  Speaker 1: live a lot. Right. Right. Yeah. Beat it. Get out
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  Speaker 1: of here. Um, what you need to be unreasonable about
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  Speaker 1: is your standards, right? And your, what are your standards?
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  Speaker 1: It's what you've decided. This is what, this is what
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  Speaker 1: my life is about. And our definition for standards is
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  Speaker 1: that when you break them, no value is gained. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Like we had a standard in the SEAL teams of
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  Speaker 1: never point your weapon at your teammate. There's zero good
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  Speaker 1: reasons to ever do that. Zero reasons. Now there's rules, right?
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  Speaker 1: And we've talked about rules before. Maybe I'll come back
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  Speaker 1: to rules here a little bit, but We've talked about
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  Speaker 1: rules before, and rules is like the speed limit, okay?
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  Speaker 1: There's a generally acceptable reason for why you should drive
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  Speaker 1: the speed limit. Now, you can break them, and if
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  Speaker 1: you break them, you are still breaking the law, but
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  Speaker 1: sometimes there's value on the other side of breaking them.
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  Speaker 1: If my wife is having a baby in the car,
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  Speaker 1: you know what? I'm going to break the speed limit.
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  Speaker 1: There are reasons sometimes to break the speed limit. Standards,
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  Speaker 1: there is no reason that there's no value that would
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  Speaker 1: ever come from you breaking them. I have a personal
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  Speaker 1: standard example. I have a standard. Of not yelling at
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  Speaker 1: my wife, okay? Unless we're like at a game or
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  Speaker 1: something and I have to yell so you can hear me.
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  Speaker 1: I will never yell at my wife in anger. Right.
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  Speaker 1: Haven't done it, won't do it. Right? It doesn't mean
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  Speaker 1: I'm not firm with my wife. I am at times.
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 1: But I will never yell at her. There's zero value
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  Speaker 1: to be gained from me. Because that level of escalation,
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  Speaker 1: like screaming at your wife, once you start escalating, it's
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  Speaker 1: hard to stop.
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  Speaker 2: For sure.
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  Speaker 1: And the only thing that's on the other side of screaming...
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  Speaker 1: is physical violence. There's no reason to ever just start
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  Speaker 1: the escalation path. All I need to give you is
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  Speaker 1: the tone of my voice and you understand where I'm
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  Speaker 1: at on something. That is a standard. So what I'm
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  Speaker 1: saying is you need to be unreasonable about your standards
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  Speaker 1: as it relates to kingdom living, as it relates to sin,
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  Speaker 1: as it relates to holiness. I'm not saying perfection, we
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  Speaker 1: never preach that here, but you need to be unreasonable
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  Speaker 1: about your standards. And I'm just getting started today on
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  Speaker 1: unreasonable Here's another thing you need to be unreasonable about.
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  Speaker 1: You need to be unreasonable about possibility in your life, right?
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  Speaker 1: Stop letting people put you in a box. Stop listening
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  Speaker 1: to voices that say like, oh, well, you should just
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  Speaker 1: be reasonable. You should just accept this is the way
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  Speaker 1: things are. You should just be willing to take only
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  Speaker 1: what's given to you. You need to decide, what I'm
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  Speaker 1: telling you, is you need to decide to challenge limitations.
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  Speaker 1: You have to have the ability to discern what we
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  Speaker 1: spend so much time talking about, and I'm just a
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  Speaker 1: little bit fired up today. I spend so much time
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  Speaker 1: talking about this on The Impossible Life because I want
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  Speaker 1: you to get it. I want you to know where
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  Speaker 1: you can push. You need to be able to discern
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  Speaker 1: between what is a principle, okay? What are principles? Principles
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  Speaker 1: govern outcomes. You're not going to change the sun rising
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  Speaker 1: and the sun setting. There are some laws that God
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  Speaker 1: has put in place that cannot be broken. You need
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  Speaker 1: to understand how those work for you, and if you're
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  Speaker 1: in the wrong place, how they're working against you. but
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  Speaker 1: then at the same time also understand what things are rules.
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  Speaker 1: I gave you an example, the speed limit. If you
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  Speaker 1: can discern between what is a principle and what is
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  Speaker 1: a rule, you realize, okay, where people are saying that's impossible,
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  Speaker 1: what they're saying is it just hasn't, it's the intro
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  Speaker 1: to this podcast.
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  Speaker 2: It's almost like we chose it on purpose.
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  Speaker 1: Right? They're just telling you what hasn't been done before.
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  Speaker 1: You can break rules. And you can bend principles. When
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  Speaker 1: you learn how they work, you understand the limitations of them, right?
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  Speaker 1: And it is what Morpheus said in The Matrix. Some
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  Speaker 1: rules are meant to be bent. Other rules are meant
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  Speaker 1: to be broken. Now, that phrase sounds good. More so
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  Speaker 1: what he means is like you can break rules and
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  Speaker 1: there's other things that don't necessarily break. But when you
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  Speaker 1: learn how they work, you can bend them to work
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  Speaker 1: for you. Yeah, very cool.
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  Speaker 2: You would have loved this, G, when I was out
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  Speaker 2: in Rhode Island at the Iron Sharpens Iron men's event.
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  Speaker 2: The host, Josh, who is probably listening to the podcast.
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  Speaker 2: So shout out to you, Josh. So appreciate you. His
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  Speaker 2: son quoted the entire intro to me.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that's awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Because they're like massive fans of the podcast.
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's so awesome.
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: I think he was like 10 years old. So it
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: was really cool.
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: Well done, Josh's son. You're awesome.
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: You have my applause.
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: And I want to just say, because there's one more
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: thing that you want people to be unreasonable about. You
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: hear the fire in Garrett's voice. Just understand, this is
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: not because Garrett found something that's really cool or he
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: cares about this for himself. I will tell you, because
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: I've thought about this a lot, the very first thing
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: that has to shift in order for you to change,
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: and the reason why Garrett's pressing on these unreasonables so
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: much and encouraging people to do it, is because your
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: belief is the first thing that changes. Before you see
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: anything actual in the physical realm, because why would you
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: do anything if you didn't think it would have, if
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: you didn't at least have a suspicion that it would
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: bring some fruit or change some things? The moment people
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: start to lose hope that things can change, it's over.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: It's why hope is such a force multiplier. And I
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: was thinking about this in my life. When I was depressed,
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: what got me out of my depression was I got
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: a plan for doing something that I thought would make
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: life better. Now, the plan took me a couple years
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: to enact, but you know what? I went from being
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: like a depressed guy who was not really doing much
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: to suddenly I'm very motivated and hardworking because belief shifted.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: And so when Garrett's giving you these things about what
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: to be unreasonable about, if you can start to go,
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: you know what? I have started to accept and stop
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: questioning what's possible. If you can start to think this way, man,
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: it's like a seed, once again, from the intro, a thought,
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: the most powerful idea, like from Inception. I'm misquoting it.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: But it's that thing. If you can get that in you,
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: it's how, you know, Jesus talked about the kingdom of
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: God is like a mustard seed that when it grows,
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: if we can get a bit of the belief in you,
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: if we can get a bit of the understanding that
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: God made you to be great and get a bit
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: of the understanding that he did not make you to
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: come in here to play nice, to play small, to
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: just sort of, you know, go like, oh, well, shucks,
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: I guess that's it. You're a son of God. Really
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: think about what that means. Would you be so disappointed
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: if you met Jesus and he was fat, weak, and lazy?
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: You would be so disappointed because that's not what you
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: would expect.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: Of the Son of God. He made you in his image.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: Why don't you look like him? There you go.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: Thank you for summarizing that, as you always do.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: All right. And we're just getting started here. We're talking
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: about some of the things specifically right off the top.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: Here's what you need to be unreasonable about. Be unreasonable
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: about what is possible. And then the last thing here,
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: be unreasonable. Be unreasonable in your commitments, okay? You need
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: to decide, this is what I'm about. This is what
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: I'm going to do. This is who I want to be.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: This is the life that I want to live. This
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: is the life that I want to have. And be
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: committed to that. And there are certainly some biblical commitments
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: that you need to be extremely firm in. Do not
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: let people come in and negotiate with you, whether it's
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: your own thoughts, it's somebody else's thoughts, or it might
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: even be somebody else's words. Let people negotiate with you
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: on your commitments, okay? This was the beginning of the
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: fall in the garden, a negotiation on a commitment. Yeah.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: Don't eat of this tree. Did he really say that?
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Right? It was a negotiation on a commitment. You need
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: to be, when you understand what your commitments are, you
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: need to be extremely unreasonable in that. The goal is
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: not to have everyone agree with you. Yeah. If you
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: want to get everyone to agree with you, you will
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: make no progress. Okay? And we're going to get into this.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: We want to be the people who are unreasonable, who
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: do make progress. And if you want everyone to agree
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: with you, you're not going to make any progress. Everybody
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: wants to be some visionary person, but few people want
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: to deal with the pain, the risk, the uncertainty, all
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: of the challenges and suffering and sacrifice that come with
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: being a person like that. When someone is a visionary,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: they see a future that doesn't exist yet. Maybe you
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: don't see yourself as a visionary, but if you have
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: a commitment to anything, you are indeed a visionary. Right.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: When you got married to a woman and you said,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be with you for forever, that's a
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: visionary statement. Right.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: I see that we will be together for forever.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Now, what follows the vision is the commitment to see
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: it through. Be unreasonable about your commitments.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: So, G, let me ask you something then, because we're
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: talking about pursuing really the impossible and exploring the impossible.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: And I talked about why it's so important that people
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: at least start to have this seed of belief in them.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: But it's not common, right, for people to think this way.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: So what are the things that are going to keep
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: people from this?
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's a few things that will, right, so
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: we talked about what you, like why you need to
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: be unreasonable. Here's some things you need to be unreasonable about.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: But a lot of people struggle to ever get to
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: this place of being unreasonable. There's some traps that you
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: fall into. And the first trap that a lot of
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: people fall into is, I'll say it this way, conformity
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: is rewarded with comfort. People fall into the trap of easy.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Agreeing with everyone is easy. You know what? It's not
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: a controversial topic at this point anymore. Some of you
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: who listen to this show may have thought differently about
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: it a few years ago, and that's okay. I don't
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: think any differently of you. But it was very easy
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: to fall into the trap of COVID. Yeah. Like, do this.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Do everything we tell you to do. Otherwise... we're gonna
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: apply pain to you. You could lose your job, it's
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: hard to buy groceries, whatever it is. And you know what?
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Going with the flow, agreeing with everyone is easy, Yeah.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: And this is why so many people are not unreasonable
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: because they just, they, they fall into the trap of,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: you know, what is generally accepted. I don't want to,
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be friction. I don't want to
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: create resistance. I don't want resistance in my life. I
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: can tell you, um, I was explaining this to Nick earlier.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: This is natural human psychology.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: If your nick is getting ready for an elk hunt,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: we were talking about tracking animals. And I was saying
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: elk are a little bit sometimes easier to track because
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: they're larger. Larger hoof prints, also bigger animal, more blood.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: But this happens sometimes when you're tracking a deer. You're
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: tracking it and you lose the blood trail. And if
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: it's on certain ground where you can't follow hoof prints
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: and there's not some natural trail, where like you can,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: sometimes there's a trail and you just know like the
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: animals are running down this trail. But if the animal
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: goes into, you know, untrailed territory and I have no
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: blood trail and I can't find any more hoof prints,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: I stand there and from the last position of where
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: that animal was, I look and I say, what is
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: the path of least resistance? And 99% of the time
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: you're going to find the animal in that direction. They'll
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: also follow the general path that they were going. So
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: it's not like they'll take like a 270 degree turn
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: because there's like a bigger opening over here than an
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: opening over there. But it is generally, like, if you
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: just watch animals in the wild, spend a lot of
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: time doing that, animals walk the path of least resistance.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: We are naturally hardwired to do this. What's the easier way? Right.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: And you need to, like, there's nothing, like, don't do
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: everything in your life the hard way. Don't walk up
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: the stairs in your house on your hands. That's not
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: what I'm telling you to do. Right. But you need
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: to also understand this is a natural way that I
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: am that should not be applied to everything in my life.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the comfort thing that you say, my mind immediately
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: went to Braveheart. Obviously, it's such a great movie. If
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: you remember, before they would fight the battles, the leaders
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: of the British Army would come up, or the English Army,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: I should say, would come up, and then Scotland's leaders
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: would go out there, and they'd be like, here's what
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: we're prepared to offer you, a.k.a. let us just give
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: you some land, we'll give you titles, we'll give you houses,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: and everybody goes home. Like you said, conformity is rewarded
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: with comfort. During COVID, you talked about you could lose
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: your job. I remember they were giving people Taco Bell gifts.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: vouchers to like if you got a vaccine which is
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: a wild thing because i think you can make a
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: strong argument that's actually makes you more uncomfortable uh but
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: but like it's just crazy but it's such a that
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: that braveheart scene to me is such a when you
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: watch it you're like oh my gosh would anybody actually
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: sell out and then because like you're sitting at home
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: in your comfort going like don't do it but all
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: the time right conformity is rewarded with comfort.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: So first trap of not being an unreasonable person, the
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: traps people fall into that keep them from being unreasonable
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: is conformity and comfort. The second trap here is just
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: what I would call precedence, okay? And this is where
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: people make the mistake of they look at the way
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: things have been done before and they say, well, this
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: is just the way things that must be done in
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: the future. And you are not questioning, you're not questioning
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: any of the assumptions in the case, right? You're just
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: gonna look at it and say, well, this is just
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: the way it's been and I guess this is the
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: way it's going to be. And precedence is a trap
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: for overcoming the impossible, for living an unreasonable life. You've
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: got to be someone who walks into a situation, look
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: at every single limitation, and begin to poke it, begin
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: to test it. And it's not being just a provocative person,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: but what do you want? I want progress. I want
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: things to get better. And it's like you're stuck in
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: a room, okay? Literally, this is just an analogy for
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: the situation that you're in. I put you in a
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: padded room. And it's like, some people, they look around,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: they poke one of the walls, they're like, well, guess
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: I'll always be in here. Other people say, well, I'm
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: getting out of here, which wall's coming down? Right.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: And you got to start poking things. Right. Figure out
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: what the limitations are. If you just take all of these, it's, again,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: back to animal psychology, some of the interesting things for
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: like the way they train elephants or even the way
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: they train horses. They train a horse that the bridle
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: is uncomfortable and But then you, like, I don't know
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: if you've ever seen videos, people do it. They'll put
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: an imaginary bridle on a horse and begin to pull
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: the lead and the horse just follows. There's nothing actually,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: it's just been so hardwired that this is the way
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: things are. It's like you can see someone go up
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: to a horse, have nothing in their hands, but go
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: through all the motions of putting a bridle on the
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: horse and then like a fake lead, like a rope,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: pull it and the horse just follows like he's on
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: a rope.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: He has been trained to, This is the way things are.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: And people get trained to have these paper thin boundaries
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: in their life. And they're like, well, it's, you know,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: we can't go through that.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Yes, you can. Yeah.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: So don't fall into the trap of precedence.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think it'd be so interesting to dive
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: deeper into that. So I'm going to put a pin
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: in that.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: We could talk about that one for sure. Yeah. And
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: then the third trap that people fall into that keeps
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: them from being unreasonable, that keeps them from living the
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: impossible life, is obvious. This is an obvious one is
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: fear and risk. Okay. So if you didn't fall into
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: one of the first two traps of, Hey, I got lazy,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: or I just didn't think it could be done. Well,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: then you're going to say like, Hey, I'm, I got
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: my motorcycle. I'm revved up and ready to go. And
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: I'm going to jump my bike over the grand Canyon,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: but I could die. Yeah. Fear and risk. And these
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: are the things that will keep people and, and the
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: way that you're going to walk through, like, you just cannot,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: you cannot, this is biblical. You cannot fall into the
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: trap of fear. God has not given you a spirit
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: of fear, but a spirit of power and love and
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: a sound mind. This is the Israelites going into the
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: promised land. First group, first generation of Israelites post-Egypt. They
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: saw God. He rescued them from the most powerful army
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: in the world at that time, fed them in the desert,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: spoke to them, performed all form of miracles. Yet, when
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: it was time to go into the promised land, they
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: were afraid. And fear kept them from their destiny. These
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: were a people that God called and said was destined
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: for the promised land, and they never saw it.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Because they were afraid.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: You know, Jeed, I know we talk about not being
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: afraid all the time, and I don't think we can
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: stress it enough. You gave some great scriptures about God's
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: not giving you a spirit of fear. You talked about
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: the Israelites. This was revelatory to me. When Jesus was
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: going to heal Jairus' daughter, he's on the way. Now,
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: this is the creator of the universe, has all power,
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: and they come to the woman with the issue of
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: blood touches the hem of his garment, so it delays them.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Someone comes out from Jairus' house and goes, don't bother
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: the teacher. She's already dead. And what does Jesus say? Like,
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: oh man, that's a bummer. Or hey, you know what? Just,
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: you know, let's still go. No, he says, don't be afraid.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Only believe and she will be raised again. Why? He
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: doesn't need, like their fear. This is what we're trying
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: to get to. Jesus is about to go and raise
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: this woman, this little girl from the dead. And he
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: knows it. He's the creator of the universe. He doesn't,
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: he's not Santa Claus. It's not like he needs like
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: the power meter of belief to be certain enough. to
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: be high enough for him to do it. And yet
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: he still says, don't be afraid. And then he clears
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: all the people out who were in the house that
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: were mourning and wailing. Whether you understand it or not,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: you have to know that fear creates an environment where
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: what is of God does not grow. I don't know
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: how many times we can say it, but to me,
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: I'm like, if Jesus was with you, you'd be like, oh,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: give me all the knowledge of the world. And he
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: just goes, don't be afraid. You're like, well, I already
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: know that.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: It's obviously pretty important. You need to go do it now.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: I think it is a crazy thing to say, G.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: So I love those. All right, man. But I hope
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: people are grasping about what it looks like to be unreasonable.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: And like I said, G, I don't want this to
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: be the go be a jerk wherever you are because
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: you're unreasonable. Because you can be unreasonable. There's a lot
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: of people who are unreasonable.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Can't say you won't get accused.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, but I drove down the– everybody was stopped
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: in traffic. I drove down the hard shoulder because I'm unreasonable.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: And then the cop pulled me over and I told
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: him that– I gave him a piece of my mind
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: because I'm unreasonable.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: That's not what we're saying.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: And that's why I want to make sure that people
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: understand what we're saying and that we're actually like, so
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: like that they're not just a stubborn fool. So like,
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: I want to look at the difference between being a
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: fool and actually being like kingdom unreasonable, because I want
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: to make sure we're not giving people a license to
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: be a jerk.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Yes, we're not going to do that. So that's where
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: we're going to move to now. The first things I'm
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: trying to get most people, I'm trying to get you
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: to be more unreasonable. Okay. And that's why I talked
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: about those traps. And a lot of people, they're like, oh,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: you know, one day, I'm going to climb a mountain
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: one day. I'm going to do some of those big
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: things one day. I'll get to it. Yeah. And they don't.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Someday never comes.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: They get stuck in conformity. Yeah. Or they say, well,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: you know, people like me don't climb mountains, so I
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: guess we're not going to climb mountains. Or they finally,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: you know, put a plan together, but then they become
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: afraid at the end. So most people never move into unreasonable.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: But there's a wrong type of unreasonable. Just like guns
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: aren't good or bad, it's how you use them. Strength
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: is not good or bad, it's how you use it.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Unreasonable is a very important capability. And you can use
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: it wrongly. It can be a terrible negative quality.
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  Speaker 2: That's such a good... Sorry to interrupt you. That's such
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: a good way. What you said about gun, it's a tool.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: What we're giving people is a really powerful tool. And
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: it can be used wrongly, like a gun, or it
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: can be used rightly, like a gun. Very good.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: So good. That's not just an American statement. The gun
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: is an inanimate object. For sure.
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  Speaker 2: If you put a gun on the table, guess what?
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  Speaker 2: It's never killed anybody. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So, how to not be the stubborn fool. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not trying to make you into that person. Just because
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  Speaker 1: you're unreasonable... doesn't make you right. Refusing to conform doesn't
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  Speaker 1: make you courageous. So I'm going to give three comparisons
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  Speaker 1: here of being unreasonable versus being the fool. And let
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: me explain for a second. Listen to what I'm telling
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  Speaker 1: you here. What I'm going to give you is this
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  Speaker 1: is wisdom all right? Wisdom and discernment is being able,
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  Speaker 1: what scripture calls, to rightly divide, to know how to
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  Speaker 1: use something, to know when to apply something. I could
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  Speaker 1: give you all of my tools, and if you do
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: not have the wisdom and experience and discernment of when
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  Speaker 1: to use those tools, the tools are worth nothing to you, okay?
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  Speaker 1: What I'm telling you is that being unreasonable is a
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  Speaker 1: powerful tool for progress in life. However, used incorrectly, used
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: at the wrong time, it's very hurtful. It's dangerous. And
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: so I'm going to give you some comparisons. Here's what
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: comparisons do. Comparisons show you, here's what's good and here's
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: what's bad, right? And this is how you teach anyone anything.
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  Speaker 1: Let me show you what good looks like. Let me
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: show you what bad looks like. Let me show you
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  Speaker 1: the extremes. And this is actually the way that the
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Bible teaches wisdom. If you want wisdom in your life,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: It is sitting there in scripture waiting for you. But
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: when the scripture, like especially in Proverbs, it talks about,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: it says things, and I've used this one, this example recently.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: It says the fool chases after money, but there's treasure
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  Speaker 1: in the house of a wise man. How does that, what,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: hold on a second. You just said, no, it's showing
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  Speaker 1: you two boundaries here. You can't chase after it, but
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: wise men have it. Scripture tells you about these different
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  Speaker 1: things where here's one side of the limit, here's the
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: other side of the limitation. Okay, so what I'm gonna
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: give you is some comparisons where I say, here's what
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: good unreasonableness looks like, and here's what bad unreasonableness looks like,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: all right? So jumping into the comparisons here, number one
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  Speaker 1: is conviction versus stubbornness. Conviction versus stubbornness. Stubbornness is just
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  Speaker 1: refusing to change your opinion, okay? Refusing to change your opinion.
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  Speaker 1: You don't really know why you believe what you believe.
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  Speaker 1: You're just like, I'm set in my ways. This is
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  Speaker 1: the way things are. Conviction... is refusing to abandon your principles.
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  Speaker 1: And this is no, like some people will find me
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  Speaker 1: unreasonable in my arguments or my opinions, but I promise you,
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  Speaker 1: if you're willing to have the conversation, I can tell
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  Speaker 1: you exactly why I believe what I believe. And if
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: you want to have an argument with me about anything,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: make sure like you've thought deeply about why you think
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  Speaker 1: this is best and all of the supporting principles around that.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: I have thought through these things. I am very open
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  Speaker 1: to learn. I would like to be better than I
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: am today. But do not get into an argument with
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  Speaker 1: me and think that the strength of your emotions or
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: the strength of your opinion is going to move me.
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  Speaker 1: I want to know why. I want to understand it.
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  Speaker 1: This is the difference between conviction and stubbornness. My conviction
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  Speaker 1: is in my principles. Now, teach me something. Teach me
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  Speaker 1: something about principles. Show me a principle that I'm not
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  Speaker 1: seeing in any situation. My conviction is there is a God.
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  Speaker 1: My conviction is that God is a God of order.
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  Speaker 1: my conviction is that order has put these governing principles
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  Speaker 1: in place that govern every single decision. This is my conviction.
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  Speaker 1: And so when I assemble these principles into what I
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: think is a path and a process, it's going to
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: be very hard to move me off of that. Now
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  Speaker 1: that does not mean I'm, I don't want to learn.
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  Speaker 1: I deeply want to learn. This is the difference between
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: conviction and stubbornness. Stubbornness is just refusing to change your opinion. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's G what you said about opinions. Um,
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: I have a saying, it's probably, it's, I say that
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: an opinion is only worth the price paid to form it.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: And I've said to people before, I'm like, Garrett's very opinionated.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, and I think I've said it on
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: this podcast. The problem is that your opinions aren't things
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: that you like read a bullet point in the newspaper.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: And that's what most people's prices paid is like, I
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: read an article or I saw something and their opinions
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: get shifted so quickly because they've never stopped to really
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: consider truth. And so when you say like, I know
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  Speaker 2: why I think what I think, not just what I think,
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: That's because it's founded on principles. And I would hope
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: that every person could grasp that. I know I've been
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: stirred by it, G. Like it's made me, I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I want to be a man who's bold and lives
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: with conviction. Well, then you have to really have seen something,
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: which means you have to really research the truth. And
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: so I found that that's made me want to dive
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: even deeper into not just the Bible, but like, how
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: did we get this Bible? I've dove more into like
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: historical literacy and what it actually, you know, how you
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: look at some of the documents and the manuscripts and
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: what has it done? It's just deepened my faith. of going, man,
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: there is a huge amount.
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  Speaker 1: Of evidence here. Conviction must have the desire to grow. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's good. Because otherwise, you are... It's blind, reckless abandon of, no,
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  Speaker 1: I've just already decided, and it's a level of arrogance
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: in your position that is pretending to be godlike. If
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: you're not open to learn, you are saying, I know everything,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: and I'm smarter than everyone else, and I know what
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: is best for the entire world. Right. Like you should
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: always be open to learn. Conviction is willing to change
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: its methods. Conviction is willing to change its approach, but
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: without compromising the mission.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Why?
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Because you know what, like you have a sense of
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: purpose about the mission. This is what we must do.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: But if that plan doesn't work, we'll go to the
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: next plan. And if that plan doesn't work, we'll go
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: to the next plan. That's the unreasonableness. Not like, no,
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  Speaker 1: I just like where people get unreasonable in the stubbornness.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: It really is out of a lack of confidence. Right. Okay?
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: People who have this belief in themselves, the cream always
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: rises to the top. You can blow up my boat.
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  Speaker 1: I'll make another one. Right? But I'm crossing the ocean.
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  Speaker 1: Versus stubbornness is like, no, this is my boat, and
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: the boat is sinking, but I'm going to put it
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  Speaker 1: back together. And you get tied on to something that's
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: actually not what's supposed to carry you.
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  Speaker 2: That's so good, man, what you just said. And understand
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: what the presupposition of what you just said is that
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  Speaker 2: you have a righteous mission. And that's really important because
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: sometimes if you're on the wrong mission, you need to
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: know that. But hearing what you said, there's a high
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: amount of awareness of when you start to deviate from
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: the mission as well. Because I've seen this with you.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: We'll talk about different things we want to do. and
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: you'll ask questions, and we'll start looking at possibilities. And you're,
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: I think, a lot more flexible than people would expect
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: you to be about, okay, well, we can try it
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: that way, because it's not changing where we're going. And
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: that's the key thing to know. Yeah, being unreasonable doesn't
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: mean that you lack humility. It doesn't mean that you
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: lack teachability, right? You can be both very unreasonable and
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: humble at the same time.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, very good. Okay, so second comparison here. Second comparison,
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  Speaker 1: this is the difference between courage And recklessness, okay? Just understand,
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  Speaker 1: if you become an unreasonable person and you begin to
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: challenge limitations, and the bigger the limitations are that you challenge,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: people will call you reckless, okay? And you got to
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: do what Pop's always told me. Son, if the shoe fits,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: wear it, okay? So when people say things like that
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: to me, I actually really want to hear what they
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: have to say. Now, I'm not offended by them. People...
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: I do things differently than some people, but I genuinely
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: care what people have to say. I care what people think.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: I weigh some people's opinions differently, but I don't want,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: I don't, I'm not trying to ignore risk.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to run into a battle with my
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: eyes closed. That's a horrible idea. I want a well-formed
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: battle plan and I'm, yes, I am willing to face
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: a giant and I'm telling you I can kill a
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: giant with a rock, but if there's stuff out there
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: that I don't know about, I'd like to know. Right.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: So recklessness is just completely ignoring risk. Courage, so this is,
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  Speaker 1: if you're unreasonable and reckless, that's bad. I want you
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: to be unreasonable built on courage. Courage is understanding risk
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: and determining what's worth pursuing. These are, I mentioned this
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: at Mighty Men yesterday, I've been in a season of
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: my life that requires this level of media support I
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: have multiple TV screens in my office at work. Um,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: one big TV I use for like zoom and presentations
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: and then two smaller TVs and one, I got Bloomberg
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: going all the time. And on the other smaller TV,
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: I'm usually like watching a TV show or movie and
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: all year long, I've just been playing band of brothers.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: I think I'm not literally like it goes, it plays
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: through like once a day, right? Like if you start
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: it in the morning and I do, I just turn
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: it on when I get into my office, it comes on. And, uh,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: You'll play through a band of brothers in one day.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: I've watched it ever. I've watched the entire show. I mean,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: I'm not really watching it, but it's just playing while
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: I'm doing stuff. Watch the entire show every single day,
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: all year. So like I literally have about 300 playthroughs
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: of band of brothers this year. And I love Dick
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: Winter's life. Sometimes throughout the day, I've just pulled out
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: some nuggets of the guys from band of brothers because
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: like I see a moment in the show and I'd
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: like Wikipedia something or learn something. And I just so
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: admire Dick Winters. And this was a guy who, was not,
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: he was, he, he's not who you would pick out
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: of a crowd and be like, man, what a courageous leader. Uh,
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: but Dick Winters was a man who said he like,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: he had the conviction. He said, this is right. This
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: is what I'm going to have to do. And there's
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: so many times he was like, we're certainly going to die. Uh,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: but he, you know, he's one of the guys who
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: jumped in on D-Day and like a ton of, I
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: remember reading about him before I really knew who he was. Uh,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: when you, in special operations training where you're learning like
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: basic tactics and they use like one, like in every
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: tactical manual of basic troop movements is a representation of
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: one of Easy Company's assaults. Really? Yeah. That's cool. Like
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: it is textbook assault for assaulting a superior force, right?
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Like 12 guys took on 60. I'm rough on the
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: numbers there, but that's about what it was. And Dick
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Winter's like, well, we got to do it. So here
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: we go.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: That's awesome.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: You know, like that, what courage is, courage is understanding
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: risk determining what's worth pursuing. He said, we have to
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: do this, right? Like this artillery is shelling all of
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: our brothers on the beach. We have to do this.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: So let's figure out how to do it, right? It's
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: not just ignoring risk. It's understanding this is, gosh, this
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: is Eisenhower before launching D-Day, okay? So like it was
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: 120 or 150,000 men that they launched on D-Day. And
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: the initial assessment, like these are the guys that we're
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: going to send up on the beach, okay? Not like
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: all the soldiers. Like these are just the guys they're
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: going to send up on the beach. The calculation was
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: that two-thirds of them would die. Wow.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: And Eisenhower, like the day before D-Day, was out there
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: meeting with all the guys. Eisenhower was also telling all
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: the chaplains to work until the very last minute because
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: he knew he was sending the majority of these men
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: to their death. He said, you get as many people
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: saved as you can.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: It's a cool story about Eisenhower. Very sobering. But I
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: say that to say, courage is understanding the risk and
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: determining what's worth pursuing, right? Recklessness is ignoring the risk.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: You're not ignoring reality, okay? And this is, I'm going
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: to come back to this, but this is where you
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: have to have the strengths. You can't ignore reality. That's cowardice,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: that's weakness. You're looking reality in their face and refusing
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: to be defeated by it, but you must fully accept it.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: And it is a painful thing. It is a painful
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: thing to accept reality at times. Reality can be cruel
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: and mean, and you have to accept it. Then look
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: it in the face and say, I'm still going to
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: beat it.
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  Speaker 2: Man, gee, I think that that's such a hard hitting point.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: I think actually, as I'm looking at this We're comparing
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: unreasonableness versus a fool. And the unreasonable qualities are conviction
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: and courage. And we're going to get to one more.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: And everybody wants those things. But when you start looking
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: at what we talked about, that conformity leads to comfort.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: And then you start looking at what courage is. And
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: like you said, that you're willing to pursue the right things.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: And the example you gave of like, hey, we got
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: to take out that artillery. Massive danger. And I hope
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: this is helping people to start looking at their life
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: and maybe applying a filter of going, man, I'm being
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: so comfortable.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: This one is also a core leadership lesson. Right. Okay,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: on the courage versus recklessness.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Everybody wants to follow a courageous leader.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: For sure.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Nobody wants to follow a reckless leader.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And sometimes they seem similar. You have to be,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: as a leader... unreasonable about the mission, unreasonable in your
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: fight to overcome, unreasonable in your fight to success. But
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: you also want the men and the people who are
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: following you to understand that you don't ignore reality. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Very good.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: So good, man. Okay.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: The last one, last comparison here of unreasonable, and I'm
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: showing you the boundaries, right? When you see what's good
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: and what's bad, makes it easier to understand, not just
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: tell you what's good, but I'm going to show you both. Okay.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: And this last, I will tell you, this last one
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: is a little bit more challenging. I'm gonna do the
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: best that I can to give this to you. I
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: will say for some of our listeners who've been here
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: for a longer period of time, this one will be
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: easier for you. If you are a newer listener, you
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: might not grasp everything we're talking about here. This last
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: comparison is faith versus fantasy or faith versus fiction. Fantasy
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: believes in something because you want it to be true, right? Oh,
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: I just wish it would be this way. And so
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: many people, they fall into this trap. And they think
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: this is what unreasonableness is. If I just, you know,
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: clench my fists and squint my eyes hard enough, and
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: I just keep wishing and hoping, and one day it'll
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: be true. But you know in your heart it's not. Right. Okay. Now, faith,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: when you begin to walk in faith in your life,
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: there's faith. And when you have deep faith in God,
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: you realize who you are in front of him. You
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: realize who you are before him. And you know that
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: you can't hide anything. And I'll say, this is the
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: best way I can help you understand it. Where you've
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: heard us talk about purpose before, those of you who've
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: listened for a while, where you've heard us talk about
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: purpose before, and you have to learn how to get
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: on your knees before God and put the things on
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: the altar in front of Him. And you can pursue
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: the right things for the wrong reason. The example I
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: always use is you can give money to charity, and
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: that sounds like a good thing, but you can do
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: it with vain and deceit in your heart. It's not
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: about just what you do, it's about why you do it, okay?
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: And you have to know that God has a plan
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: for your life, but you also have to be willing
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: to give that plan up to him. And when you
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: get to this place, you understand in your heart, I'm
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: doing what I'm doing for the right reasons. Or you
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: could be doing it for the wrong reasons. But when
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: you have a deep sense of purpose, will you realize like, God,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: I'm not chasing after this because I just want to
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: make money. Nothing wrong with making money. But Proverbs says
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: to chase after it is wrong. There's nothing wrong with
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: making money. God, here's why I'm really doing what I'm doing.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: There's no amount of words that you can give to God.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: It is a posture of your heart. Yes. And I'm
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: talking about the heart to make this faith versus fantasy
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: part of being unreasonable. Faith really is. It's believing in
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: what hasn't occurred. It's believing in the unseen. I don't
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: have certainty of what is going to happen, but I trust.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: And here's why I trust. You have evidence. God didn't
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  Speaker 1: leave us blank.
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  Speaker 2: Right?
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: We have great evidence for God, and thus I move
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  Speaker 1: upon that evidence with faith, with conviction, but I don't
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: have certainty. Faith is not built on me. Fantasy is
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: built on a desire, and I've ignored reality, I've become delusional,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: I just deeply want this thing, and I think that
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: if I want it bad enough, that I'll attain it.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: This is the difference between faith and fantasy.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: Man, I really want to see what you said about
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: the fantasy slash delusion is believing in something because you
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: want it to be true. I think and you talking
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: about being a heart matter, you really have to ask
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: yourself what you want to be true, because it's easy
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: to pull like extreme levels of delusion. You know, we've
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: had senators and people from the medical field sit in
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: front of Congress and be like, you know, not be
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: able to answer the question of can a man have
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: a baby? Like that's an extreme level of delusion where
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: it's like we're going to change the definition of what
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: male and female means. that's delusional and we all go
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: to that extreme. But if you don't want it to
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: be true, it's easy to throw rocks at those people.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: When what you want to be true is that, you know,
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: this is the right person to marry or I don't
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: have to do X, like I don't have to tithe
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: or I don't have to, something that you really want
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: to believe or I should leave and go to this
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: church or actually, you know, God is telling us to
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: go and just leave everything that we've been doing or
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: leave my wife. Dude, that is severe levels of compromise
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: that come from a place because it starts with what
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: you want. And like you said, it doesn't matter how
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: much you want it, it's still fantasy and delusion if
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: it's not based on the Word of God, if it's
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: not founded in truth where faith actually originates from. So
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: it's easy to look at the extremes, but I think
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: when that one hits home and you talk about being
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: a matter of a heart, man.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Well, if you're not a spiritual person, it's hard to
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: understand that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, big time.
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  Speaker 1: Right, because what is the heart? The heart is the
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: desire center. And what I'm saying about your unreasonableness is
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: what is most important is where it comes from.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: Why?
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  Speaker 1: Why are you unreasonable? You've got to be unreasonable from
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: a deep sense of, I know God has a plan
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  Speaker 1: for my life and I know why what I am
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: doing matters. And even matters even more than me. And
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: this is the, I was talking about this recently at
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: Mighty Men. This is the faith of Shadrach, Meshach, and
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: Abednego of our, you throw us in, fine, throw us
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: in the fire. Our God will rescue us. But even
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: if he does not, Even if he does not, our
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: God is still God. They weren't saying, we know our
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: God's gonna rescue us. They said, we know who God is.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: And that level of faith, that even if faith is
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: what allows you to do some of the most unreasonable things.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: It's unreasonable to, it is unreasonable to defy the king
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: for God and know you're getting thrown into a fire
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: that will absolutely burn you up. It is unreasonable for
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: Daniel to have defied the king And said, I'm not
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: going to bow to you or pray to you and
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: to get thrown into a lion's den. It is unreasonable
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: to think that a young boy could face a giant
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: in combat. Many of these things are unreasonable. But if
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: where it's coming from is not a place of fantasy,
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: not of, I wish this was true, but it is
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: a place of faith that is built in God. This
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: is a great strength to your unreasonableness. Because otherwise you
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: could say it was, you could say faith versus fantasy,
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: or you could use other words there. But I'm just
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: telling you, if your unreasonableness is based off of fantasy,
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: you're weak. You will find a place where you run
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: out of strength. And I will tell you, being the
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: stubborn fool, like those people succeed sometimes. I'm not telling
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: you it's all bad. What I'm pointing out is all
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: the flaws. Like the people who just like put their
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: head down and get after it, sometimes they make it, right?
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: But also sometimes they break everything else in their life.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: What I'm trying to show you is where the strength
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: of being unreasonable is. And the faith that you have
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: in your life that supports your unreasonableness is where you're
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: going to be great. Let me give you this one
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: last thing.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: I want to ask you a question before we move on, G,
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: because this is a prompt for your brain. We didn't
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: plan this, but I was thinking, I think it'll be
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: a blessing to people. What is something in your life
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: that you're being unreasonable about for the right reasons?
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: What am I being unreasonable about for the right reasons?
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: I'll give you a couple. Um, My primary unreasonable in
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: my life is what I said to Lindsay before we
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: got married. I said, there's one thing that'll make this
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: not work. For the rest of my life, I want
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: to be great. I am going to chase after that
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: as hard as I can. And if you don't want
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: that too, being married to me will make you miserable.
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  Speaker 1: One of my unreasonables is I'm going to be great.
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  Speaker 1: I believe that God has a great plan for my life.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: I believe that God has a great plan for your life.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: It's up to you what you do with that. I
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: don't think God gave me the most. I don't think
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: I'm better than other people, but I look at what
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: God gave me and I know that God gave me
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  Speaker 1: a lot. and I'm determined to do something with that.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: And it has been unreasonable many times in my life
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: where just like I looked at SEAL training and they said, hey,
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: you can't do that. I said, no, I know I
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: can do it. And in fact, I'm going to go
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: for a run on Saturday morning after hell week when
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: everyone else is broken. That unreasonableness was not me trying
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: to prove like, hey, I think I'm better than everybody else.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: That unreasonableness is, I believe God has a plan. I
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: believe that I'm going to be able to walk through situations,
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: not just in a way where I can count on myself,
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: but where I can point to God and say, God
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: was with me in each of these situations. That's my
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: general unreasonableness. And where I am specifically unreasonable is in
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: the business we're building at Union. I am looking at
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: the entire industrial base and seeing a massive problem. The
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: Pentagon's core problem is, how do we get maximum surge
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: capacity for minimum dollar, okay? And people are focused on
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: all of the wrong things. I see a system, I'm
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: not going to go along this, I could talk about
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: it for an hour. I see a system that is
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: the right answer. And I'm going up against people who've
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: been doing this for 50, 60, 70 years and have
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: multi-billion dollar balance sheets and I do not care.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't wait to tell the story of unions. Sorry,
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: I just thought that was something practical for people.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: Last thing I want to give you is, so we've
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: been talking about some comparisons. You're going to have to
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: be strong. You're going to have to be strong to
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: be unreasonable. And I'm not telling you you're going to
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: get out there and just be legendary in your unreasonableness.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: But the next time, remember where we said you should
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: go with this. I told you the things you need
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: to be unreasonable about, about your standards, about possibility, about
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: your commitments. And the next time that any of these
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: things in your life are being challenged, I want you
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: to remember this. I want you to remember, hey, I'm
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: going to be a little bit more unreasonable. You don't
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: have to go zero to hero. But in your standards,
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: in your commitments, and possibility in your life. The next
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: time someone's pushing on those, I want you to push
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: back a little bit. I want you to be a
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: little bit more unreasonable. But here's what's, if I could
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: summarize all of today's lesson into just one thought, is
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: you're going to have to be strong, but it's two
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: strengths at the same time. And again, this is wisdom.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: Wisdom isn't just knowing one thing, but it's knowing two
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: things and knowing when to apply either. That's when you
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: have wisdom, not just to know one thing. And so
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: here's the two strengths that you have to have. You
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: have to have the strength to accept reality. Accepting reality sucks. Reality,
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: most of the time, reality is mean and painful. We
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: don't like it and it hurts. And it tells us
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: all the things that we don't want to hear and
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: tells us all the ways that we're not great. You
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: have to have the strength to face and accept reality
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: while at the same time, also having the strength to
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: challenge it, to push back on it, right? And say,
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: you know what? You're right about that the same way.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: When I was going through SEAL training, they said, you
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: don't belong here. I said, no, I'm slow. There's a difference.
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  Speaker 1: I know I'm not good at the four-mile timed run.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: That has nothing to do with me being a Navy SEAL.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: I will meet the standard, and I will go on.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: I know I'm meant for this. And it's not necessarily
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: the instructors, but it's just coming from the assumption, well,
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: if you're not good at these things, then you're not
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: meant to be a Navy SEAL. Those guys who were
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: the fastest runners didn't make it. They were missing all
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: of the important qualities. They didn't fully understand the assignment.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: So you have to have the strength to accept reality,
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: accept where you're weak, but also have the strength to
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: challenge it at the same time. This is how you
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: navigate being unreasonable. And it has a great requirement of
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: faith in your life. It's that even if, when you
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: have an identity that is formed in Christ, that's when
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: you can hear the things that you don't like about
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: yourself and say, that's okay, that doesn't determine who I am.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: And even if I'm slow, even if I'm not good enough,
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: even if the giant is as big as you say,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: I know my God is with me.
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