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- 0:00Speaker 1: The latest on Fred Warner his possible return for the
- 0:03Speaker 1: game on Saturday. We'll discuss at all coming up at
- 0:06Speaker 1: seven o'clock here this morning on Chuck and Buck in
- 0:09Speaker 1: the Morning. Still want to let you know Matt Hasselbeck's
- 0:11Speaker 1: joining us today at eight o'clock. That's right, Every Wednesday
- 0:14Speaker 1: throughout the playoffs, we'll check in with number eight at eight. Also,
- 0:17Speaker 1: comedian Dustin Nickerson back on the show today at eight thirty.
- 0:22Speaker 1: And I should tell you tomorrow at nine o'clock Dumper time.
- 0:26Speaker 1: That's right, Dumper time.
- 0:28Speaker 2: Our friend cal.
- 0:29Speaker 1: Raley, who was a Jeopardy question apparently last night or
- 0:33Speaker 1: two nights ago, something like that.
- 0:35Speaker 2: Early.
- 0:35Speaker 1: Yes, apparently that's a rarity for a sports figure to
- 0:38Speaker 1: become a Jeopardy question. So he totally has now immersed
- 0:43Speaker 1: as a pop culture icon.
- 0:45Speaker 2: He's a household names.
- 0:46Speaker 3: When you know you've made it, Yeah, when Aaron Levine
- 0:50Speaker 3: knows your name and he's not because he's a portray reporter.
- 0:53Speaker 2: That's right, Aaron Levine's watching Jeopardy like, oh wow, is
- 0:57Speaker 2: that guy from Seattle? Look at that? Make a note card? Yeah,
- 1:01Speaker 2: make a note card right there? So yes, cal Rally
- 1:04Speaker 2: tomorrow at nine.
- 1:06Speaker 1: O'clock here on Chuck and Buck in the morning, So
- 1:08Speaker 1: we'll talk a little football with him too, A huge
- 1:10Speaker 1: football fan, that Cal Raley, So we'll do that tomorrow
- 1:14Speaker 1: at nine o'clock. I do want to point out, because
- 1:17Speaker 1: we mentioned this yesterday about the Mariners, that Ryan Sloan
- 1:20Speaker 1: made the list season yesterday as the number six right
- 1:23Speaker 1: handed pitching prospect and all of Major League Baseball just
- 1:27Speaker 1: at age nineteen. You know, people are salivating over this kid.
- 1:31Speaker 1: Kate Anderson left handers yesterday number three. So think about that.
- 1:37Speaker 1: I mean, this is a nineteen year old kid and
- 1:40Speaker 1: then a guy we just got in the draft this
- 1:43Speaker 1: past year, and we've added them to already. Or Anderson
- 1:48Speaker 1: has been added to already what was considered one of
- 1:51Speaker 1: the best, if not the best, farm systems.
- 1:53Speaker 2: So I'm there's so many.
- 1:55Speaker 1: Things to be excited about with this team right now,
- 1:58Speaker 1: and yet a lot of bumbling about how we're not
- 2:01Speaker 1: spending any money again this off season and are we
- 2:05Speaker 1: just gonna let the Blue Jays get everyone. I would
- 2:08Speaker 1: like to tell people pull a little bit of a
- 2:11Speaker 1: break on that. I mean, the Blue Jays have really added.
- 2:15Speaker 1: They've added Okamoto, and they've added cease, but they're also
- 2:18Speaker 1: going to lose the shit. So, yeah, they might be
- 2:20Speaker 1: in on Tucker, but if they don't get Tucker, then
- 2:24Speaker 1: they're not. Really it doesn't sound like in on anybody else,
- 2:27Speaker 1: So it's not like they've run away and hid. Yeah,
- 2:30Speaker 1: they've done more than what we have, but we haven't
- 2:32Speaker 1: done nothing. Josh Naylor's been re signed, we've added for Rare,
- 2:36Speaker 1: and we've added Refsneider, and they've been very up front
- 2:40Speaker 1: that they're going to add another veteran piece through free
- 2:44Speaker 1: agency or a trade before the off season comes to
- 2:46Speaker 1: a close. That's about as much as you can expect
- 2:48Speaker 1: out there. If you're sitting in there gonna get broken
- 2:51Speaker 1: hearted over us not signing Kyle Tucker, you really do
- 2:53Speaker 1: set yourself up for a fall every off season.
- 2:56Speaker 4: Why would you do that to you?
- 2:57Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I just I saw a multiple things yesterday
- 3:01Speaker 3: and I just chose to scroll right on by because
- 3:03Speaker 3: it was it was on posts of mind like why
- 3:05Speaker 3: don't you when I said something about Dumper coming on,
- 3:08Speaker 3: I get won't you tell him to ask the ownership
- 3:12Speaker 3: stop being so cheap? And it's like, oh my gosh,
- 3:14Speaker 3: I thought when they did end up getting Naylor as
- 3:18Speaker 3: quick as they did right off the bat, first move,
- 3:21Speaker 3: and it was a big one. Now, yes, it's bringing
- 3:23Speaker 3: a guy back, but he was a free agent, could
- 3:25Speaker 3: have win anywhere. So basically after the last game money,
- 3:27Speaker 3: he was no longer a Mariner, right and then they
- 3:29Speaker 3: signed him, and I thought to myself, I wish you
- 3:33Speaker 3: could have maybe drug this out, like made it like
- 3:36Speaker 3: a more of a cording thing that maybe lasts for
- 3:38Speaker 3: like you know, tell him, hey, you sign on the deadline,
- 3:41Speaker 3: but we're gonna play this up like it's taken a
- 3:43Speaker 3: while so that at the end it's like, see how
- 3:45Speaker 3: hard we tried to get him, and we won and
- 3:48Speaker 3: we got him, because otherwise it's gonna end up becoming
- 3:52Speaker 3: like old news. And basically that's like it's not like
- 3:55Speaker 3: the Mariners haven't done anything.
- 3:56Speaker 2: You're right.
- 3:56Speaker 3: I mean, if it was without Naylor the other additions
- 3:59Speaker 3: they've made, I would be like, you got to get
- 4:01Speaker 3: on the ball, but you don't have to get on
- 4:04Speaker 3: the ball necessarily. They're probably not going to go get
- 4:07Speaker 3: Kyle Tucker. As much as I would love it, and
- 4:10Speaker 3: anybody in any baseball city would love it. They've they've
- 4:14Speaker 3: made a couple moves and they open to basically they're
- 4:17Speaker 3: going to make another one. It's just they're kind of
- 4:19Speaker 3: waiting and seeing how some of the big marble's fall.
- 4:21Speaker 1: They're very transparent, they really are, I mean to a fault.
- 4:25Speaker 1: They said the payroll's going to end up so being
- 4:27Speaker 1: somewhere around one ninety million where it was where it
- 4:30Speaker 1: ended last year, right, And that's around one ninety million
- 4:33Speaker 1: right now. There are one seventy now that all the
- 4:35Speaker 1: arbitration figures are in. So they've got the twenty million
- 4:38Speaker 1: dollar cushion and they're trying to find a bat to
- 4:40Speaker 1: spend twenty million dollars on. If they don't do it,
- 4:43Speaker 1: be angry. But right now, that's been the plan the
- 4:46Speaker 1: entire offseason. So I don't know, I don't know why
- 4:49Speaker 1: people put themselves through this. If they don't get Kyle Tucker,
- 4:53Speaker 1: they sucking, they're cheap. It's never going to happen. It's
- 4:57Speaker 1: just not the way that they're going to operate.
- 4:59Speaker 4: Sorry, And why set yourself up to be just angry
- 5:02Speaker 4: all the time.
- 5:03Speaker 2: Angry all the time? Greg Bell's next k j R.
- 5:11Speaker 5: Imagine that you talked to some other coaches that had
- 5:14Speaker 5: experiences with Bie weeks and.
- 5:16Speaker 2: Stuff like that to get back church.
- 5:17Speaker 5: Curious who's on that that call list and is Mike
- 5:20Speaker 5: Homegren ever someone that you check in with.
- 5:23Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll kind of leave those guys anonymous, I guess
- 5:27Speaker 6: just because just to respect, you know, their positions, but
- 5:30Speaker 6: people that have done at a really high level. And
- 5:32Speaker 6: I'll say, you know, we kind of the same spirit
- 5:36Speaker 6: of understanding what's out there, understanding what the options are,
- 5:39Speaker 6: and then ultimately we made a decision that we felt
- 5:42Speaker 6: like was best for us and Coach Homerean and I
- 5:46Speaker 6: we talk regularly and maybe not regularly but often, and
- 5:52Speaker 6: he's been a great, great resource. But he's just been very, very,
- 5:55Speaker 6: very supportive throughout the whole thing. And it's kind of
- 5:58Speaker 6: a pinch yourself type thing that he had a really
- 6:00Speaker 6: ship with Mike Homebrun's pretty cool.
- 6:04Speaker 2: I don't brag, but.
- 6:06Speaker 3: We talked to him regularly, regularly. Yeah, Yeah, we really
- 6:12Speaker 3: have a relationship.
- 6:13Speaker 2: We talk about meatballs.
- 6:14Speaker 3: I've given him dip, he's buck he's giving him dip.
- 6:18Speaker 7: Mike.
- 6:18Speaker 2: We text. Yeah, I don't know, I don't know. Maybe
- 6:21Speaker 2: you talked to him two times a week. M that's regular.
- 6:27Speaker 3: Yeah, that's probably more than regularly.
- 6:30Speaker 2: The big deal. We're pretty much his best friends.
- 6:33Speaker 7: Mike.
- 6:34Speaker 1: I don't know what you're bragging about your press conferences.
- 6:37Speaker 7: But.
- 6:39Speaker 2: Anyway, it's cool for you. I mean, you're a football genius.
- 6:43Speaker 2: And also you don't get to be the best at everything.
- 6:46Speaker 1: We're just the best at being coach Holmgren's friends.
- 6:50Speaker 4: Yeah, we're number one, but we'll let him be number two.
- 6:54Speaker 1: Sure, be embarrassed about Mike, but just you know, yeah,
- 6:58Speaker 1: you know your roll. Yeah, you know, even genius has
- 7:02Speaker 1: got to be set in their places.
- 7:03Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah.
- 7:05Speaker 4: And if that's the one thing we could win at
- 7:07Speaker 4: over him, we'll take it.
- 7:09Speaker 3: Yes we will.
- 7:10Speaker 1: It's Chuck, Buck and Ashley with you here as we
- 7:12Speaker 1: roll into the seven o'clock hour on a home day.
- 7:15Speaker 1: Welcome into the radio program. All sorts of cool stuff
- 7:18Speaker 1: gonna happen today on the show, including a conversation with
- 7:21Speaker 1: Greg Bell. Here in a matter of two minutes, is
- 7:25Speaker 1: we get you ready for Seahawks forty nine ers coming
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- 7:56Speaker 1: Fred Warner's practice window has been opened by the San
- 7:59Speaker 1: Francis forty nine ers. This has been a back and
- 8:02Speaker 1: forth subject, certainly earlier this week they were claiming that
- 8:07Speaker 1: that wasn't.
- 8:07Speaker 2: Going to happen.
- 8:08Speaker 1: Well, the window's been open, doesn't mean he'll play on Saturday,
- 8:12Speaker 1: but he's giving himself a chance to feel ready to play.
- 8:16Speaker 1: And so the all pro linebacker of the San Francisco
- 8:20Speaker 1: forty nine ers might add himself to this equation come
- 8:23Speaker 1: Saturday night.
- 8:24Speaker 2: Seahawk's pretty healthy.
- 8:26Speaker 1: We'll find out more from Greg and they're a little
- 8:27Speaker 1: bit on both of these topics.
- 8:29Speaker 2: They will play at five o'clock Saturday.
- 8:31Speaker 1: The NFL Divisional Rounds starts Saturday afternoon in Denver, Colorado.
- 8:35Speaker 1: Beautiful Denver, Colorado, where the Broncos will host Josh Allen
- 8:39Speaker 1: and the Buffalo Bills. Then on Sunday Texans, Patriots, and
- 8:43Speaker 1: Rams and Bears, Mike Tomlin is out as head coach
- 8:46Speaker 1: of Pittsburgh. That was written as it was his choice,
- 8:50Speaker 1: and I'm not saying that it's not, but it might
- 8:54Speaker 1: have felt to a lot of people in Pittsburgh that
- 8:56Speaker 1: it was time for a new face, a new voice.
- 9:00Speaker 1: After a few seasons of making it into the playoffs
- 9:03Speaker 1: but not getting any further.
- 9:05Speaker 2: There are now up to nine.
- 9:06Speaker 1: Head coaching vacancies in the National Football League, according to
- 9:09Speaker 1: Adam Schefter yesterday. There might be more before this cycle
- 9:13Speaker 1: comes to a close. We're five days from the national
- 9:15Speaker 1: championship in college football. It will be decided Monday night
- 9:19Speaker 1: between the Indiana Hoosiers and the Miami Hurricanes. Tonight apparently
- 9:24Speaker 1: a sold out arena for dub taking on Michigan on
- 9:27Speaker 1: the college basketball hardwood. Michigan rank number four in the country.
- 9:32Speaker 1: Cracking aer at the Devils tonight at four o'clock. We'll
- 9:34Speaker 1: talk to Al at nine point thirty today and that's it.
- 9:39Speaker 1: Those are your frost brewed cors Light Choose chill headlines.
- 9:42Speaker 2: Let's talk to Greg with the bell tolls.
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- 10:01Speaker 8: now with talk Man Moves. Here's Great Bell with Chuck
- 10:04Speaker 8: and Budd. Hey, good morning, Greg, Good morning.
- 10:08Speaker 1: Just three days shy of this big game, a little
- 10:11Speaker 1: more hype and build up that we need to take
- 10:14Speaker 1: care of on our end, and so we'll talk to
- 10:17Speaker 1: you about the forty nine ers.
- 10:18Speaker 2: So what are you hearing?
- 10:20Speaker 1: You're not the forty nine ers beat right, you're not
- 10:22Speaker 1: the forty nine ers insider. But obviously you heard about
- 10:26Speaker 1: Fred Warner's practice window opening. What are you hearing on
- 10:30Speaker 1: the possibility of him playing on Saturday.
- 10:34Speaker 7: Well, I have a lot of friends in San Francisco
- 10:36Speaker 7: in the Bay Area that cover the forty nine ers
- 10:39Speaker 7: ago twenty years twenty five years back with me and
- 10:42Speaker 7: a few I talked to yesterday said that this is
- 10:45Speaker 7: a move that if the Niners win, he would potentially
- 10:48Speaker 7: play in the NFC Championship game next week. Okay, that
- 10:52Speaker 7: they don't expect with the injury he has that he'd
- 10:55Speaker 7: be able to play in just a couple of days.
- 10:57Speaker 7: That's coming back to practice.
- 10:59Speaker 3: All right, Trentilliams is going to play again. And because
- 11:02Speaker 3: he played last week.
- 11:03Speaker 7: Right, Apparently he came out of the game. Okay, I
- 11:07Speaker 7: mean thirty seven year olds with hamstrings, it's never a
- 11:10Speaker 7: sure thing, but yeah, it was a good sign Ford.
- 11:13Speaker 7: He played that game at the risk of further injury,
- 11:16Speaker 7: they told him, and he played anyway and seemed to
- 11:19Speaker 7: have come out of it. Don't care.
- 11:20Speaker 1: And then one more forty nine Er injury and that's
- 11:23Speaker 1: you know, we know that George Kettle's not going to
- 11:25Speaker 1: play in this game. This is a team that's been
- 11:28Speaker 1: I keep hearing about how much they've relied on thirteen personnel,
- 11:31Speaker 1: which is three tight ends for goodness sake, and yet
- 11:35Speaker 1: it wasn't effective with a healthy George Kittle the last
- 11:38Speaker 1: time these two teams played.
- 11:39Speaker 2: And now they're down their best tight end of the group.
- 11:43Speaker 1: So how does that affect a forty nine Ers game
- 11:46Speaker 1: plan and something that they've been using rather effectively coming
- 11:50Speaker 1: up on Saturday.
- 11:52Speaker 7: Well, I think a lot's going to be different. And
- 11:55Speaker 7: Kyle Shanahan has things in his playbook that he didn't
- 11:58Speaker 7: use against the Seahawks that last game, and it'll be
- 12:03Speaker 7: dictated by field position and third downs. Again, what made
- 12:07Speaker 7: Seattle win that game so convincingly and just decisively was
- 12:13Speaker 7: how they had the forty nine ers backed up on
- 12:14Speaker 7: their own goal line most of the night, and how
- 12:17Speaker 7: they stopped them on early downs to make it third
- 12:19Speaker 7: and long. And then on third and long it was
- 12:23Speaker 7: because Kittle had been limited and Ricky Pearsol's been out
- 12:26Speaker 7: and Brandon Nayuka is quitting that they threw to Christian McCaffrey.
- 12:31Speaker 7: He had six catches on eight targets. But I was
- 12:35Speaker 7: doing a story for the News Tribune I posted this morning.
- 12:39Speaker 7: It was only thirty four yards on those six receptions.
- 12:43Speaker 7: It was actually his lowest, his fewest yards with that
- 12:47Speaker 7: many catches and no touchdowns since the end of his
- 12:50Speaker 7: second season twenty eighteen with the Carolina Panthers. It's been
- 12:54Speaker 7: seven years now, six years. And so what that means, Well,
- 12:58Speaker 7: Nick even worried four or five times after those catches immediately,
- 13:04Speaker 7: and that's where he makes all his money, and it
- 13:07Speaker 7: became an all pro is catching and running after the
- 13:09Speaker 7: catch in the open field. They're extended handoffs. I've said
- 13:13Speaker 7: this three four times now. The Seahawks think they have
- 13:16Speaker 7: nick emun worry as the antidote to Christian McCaffrey. So normally,
- 13:19Speaker 7: when they don't have Kittle and they're limited and they're
- 13:22Speaker 7: receiving options, you'd think, well, they're gonna throw to McCaffrey more.
- 13:27Speaker 7: And in some ways I think the sex would say
- 13:29Speaker 7: bring that on. Mike mcgonough say, yeah, I got somebody
- 13:32Speaker 7: for that. So that is all goes into this second game.
- 13:36Speaker 7: Did they throw Tom MacCaffrey as much? Do they throw
- 13:38Speaker 7: to him and do they split him out wide and
- 13:40Speaker 7: make him a wide receiver and just running that way,
- 13:44Speaker 7: or do they just run the ball more? Well, it
- 13:47Speaker 7: depends where their field position is and how far they
- 13:49Speaker 7: have to go for a first down if they run
- 13:50Speaker 7: the ball more. Ricky Pearsall did practice yesterday, limited participant.
- 13:55Speaker 7: He has barely played all year. There's a potential he
- 13:59Speaker 7: comes back to be something that Rock Purdy hasn't had,
- 14:02Speaker 7: which would of course be timely for San Francisco with
- 14:04Speaker 7: Kittle being out.
- 14:06Speaker 3: On the other side, I mean, the last game, as
- 14:09Speaker 3: dominant as it was one of the reasons. I mean,
- 14:11Speaker 3: you end up running the ball I think the thirty
- 14:13Speaker 3: nine times almost forty times, and you get one hundred
- 14:16Speaker 3: and eighty yards out of it. I mean, both of
- 14:18Speaker 3: your running backs had big days. Do you expect them
- 14:21Speaker 3: to be able to do that? Again, considering all the
- 14:23Speaker 3: injuries up in the front seven for the Niners, Well.
- 14:28Speaker 7: I don't think they're gonna get a hundred eighty yards.
- 14:30Speaker 7: I don't think they're a holding the three points and
- 14:32Speaker 7: one hundred and seventy three total yards on defense either.
- 14:35Speaker 7: But they are going to run the ball. We've seen
- 14:37Speaker 7: time and again and Clint Kubiak runs it even when
- 14:39Speaker 7: they're not effectively running it. And fifty percent of the
- 14:43Speaker 7: time Seahawks run the ball. So they will run. Yes,
- 14:47Speaker 7: Will the forty nine ers do it the same way
- 14:49Speaker 7: they did last game. I've been talking to a few
- 14:52Speaker 7: guys in the locker room and they don't think so
- 14:54Speaker 7: Gray is able. Nope. Aj Barner said they're gonna throw
- 14:58Speaker 7: the kitchen sink. At said they may do run blitzes,
- 15:01Speaker 7: which it didn't do much of. The twenty nine ers
- 15:03Speaker 7: don't blitz much in general, but Zabels said they may
- 15:07Speaker 7: even throw run blitzes to bring secondary guys into the box.
- 15:11Speaker 7: The Niners in the first in the Week eighteen game,
- 15:17Speaker 7: you could see them in the middle of the game.
- 15:19Speaker 7: You could see Robert Sawa trying to figure out whether
- 15:20Speaker 7: they go two steep safety, which he started the game
- 15:23Speaker 7: out in, or single high and bring a safety down
- 15:25Speaker 7: to defend the run. They had one hundred and fifteen
- 15:28Speaker 7: yards in the first half when they played primarily two
- 15:31Speaker 7: deep safety. In the second half, the majority of the
- 15:34Speaker 7: snaps are one deep seven not a huge majority, but
- 15:36Speaker 7: seventeen of the thirty one snaps in the second half.
- 15:39Speaker 7: When I watched the tape the other day, I counted
- 15:42Speaker 7: seventeen to thirty one. They were in single high safety
- 15:44Speaker 7: with a safety down in the box, and the Sea
- 15:47Speaker 7: Yarks still ended up finishing one hundred and eight yards
- 15:49Speaker 7: rushing the third and seventeen run when the key to
- 15:54Speaker 7: the game in the second half when Walker went for
- 15:56Speaker 7: nineteen yards extended the drive that ended up making it
- 15:58Speaker 7: the two score game again and basically game over. Early
- 16:01Speaker 7: in the fourth quarter because it was third and seventeen,
- 16:04Speaker 7: the Niners were yes in too deep safety, thinking there
- 16:07Speaker 7: was going to be a pass and Kubiak exploited it.
- 16:11Speaker 7: Grays Abel said in the huddle they call third and
- 16:13Speaker 7: seventeen manageable now because of how three weeks in a
- 16:17Speaker 7: row safegun for first downs on third and double digits,
- 16:21Speaker 7: But that is part of the cat and mounse in
- 16:23Speaker 7: this game that that may change. The Niners may play
- 16:26Speaker 7: more single high safety and if they do, look for
- 16:29Speaker 7: Kubiak to have Jackson Smith and Jigger running deep down
- 16:33Speaker 7: where that second safety came from down the middle of
- 16:35Speaker 7: the field and Sam Donald with the chances, especially with
- 16:38Speaker 7: the forty nine ers not having a pass rush without
- 16:41Speaker 7: Warner and Bosa. If expected when they go single high,
- 16:46Speaker 7: it might even be checks out of runs to deep
- 16:48Speaker 7: passes the Smith and jigba.
- 16:49Speaker 2: Big week for Seahawks football.
- 16:51Speaker 1: The Divisional round of the NFL Playoffs starts Saturday afternoon.
- 16:55Speaker 1: Saturday night, the forty nine Ers will be in town
- 16:58Speaker 1: to take on the Seahawks. The winner goes on to
- 17:00Speaker 1: the conference championship game, which would be next week. Seems
- 17:05Speaker 1: like a good week to bring our Seahawks insider Greg
- 17:07Speaker 1: Bell on his complete Seahawks coverage available at the Newstribune
- 17:11Speaker 1: dot com if you want to follow him on X
- 17:13Speaker 1: you can do so at g Bell Seattle as well.
- 17:18Speaker 1: You know a lot of talk about Grey's Abel so
- 17:20Speaker 1: far this morning, and this might not have anything to
- 17:24Speaker 1: do with preparation for Saturday, but if not for nick
- 17:28Speaker 1: Emon Warri and what he's delivered as a rookie, how
- 17:32Speaker 1: much of our season would have been spent talking about
- 17:34Speaker 1: the fantastic season of Grey's Abel.
- 17:36Speaker 2: He's been overshadowed a little bit by number three.
- 17:40Speaker 7: Well, yes, and the fact that he plays interior left
- 17:43Speaker 7: guard also means we probably weren't going to talk about
- 17:45Speaker 7: him every single week, but he's been so good that, Yeah,
- 17:49Speaker 7: how many times have we talked about a guard as
- 17:51Speaker 7: much as we've talked about.
- 17:54Speaker 2: Yeah, And he.
- 17:55Speaker 7: Talked yesterday guys about how Charles Cross has been a
- 17:59Speaker 7: great friend of his and that he implied that he
- 18:02Speaker 7: didn't expect a veteran, established four year starter to be
- 18:07Speaker 7: as great to him as Charles Cross. He calls him
- 18:09Speaker 7: a great person, someone who's really helped him grow as
- 18:14Speaker 7: a man and as a player in the NFL in
- 18:16Speaker 7: his first year. He said he's elated that he's going
- 18:19Speaker 7: to play at least three more years. His next to
- 18:23Speaker 7: Charles Cross now the Cross has a new four year
- 18:25Speaker 7: contract seventy five million guaranteed. Zabel said when he saw
- 18:28Speaker 7: John Schneider in the team building right after that deal
- 18:31Speaker 7: was done, he said, you should have paid him more.
- 18:33Speaker 7: And then he thinks he's that much worth to this
- 18:36Speaker 7: entire team and in the offense. But to be sure,
- 18:40Speaker 7: they have gotten everything they hoped to get by drafting
- 18:44Speaker 7: Gray's Abel in the first round, they feel and they
- 18:47Speaker 7: got guys playing like they had two first round picks
- 18:50Speaker 7: this year because of how well Nicki Mon Warrior is playing.
- 18:53Speaker 7: And we said they were considering trading back into the
- 18:55Speaker 7: end of the first round to get him and worry
- 18:58Speaker 7: before they realized they could get him at the top
- 18:59Speaker 7: of the second. So you're absolutely right about his impact.
- 19:05Speaker 7: He has been. I think he's given up two sacks
- 19:09Speaker 7: that I've counted, and they've come very late in the season.
- 19:12Speaker 7: For the entire season, and he claims, and he's talked
- 19:18Speaker 7: about this with me and others, that his worst game
- 19:21Speaker 7: was the second RAMS game, the overtime win for the Seahawks,
- 19:24Speaker 7: and how he didn't play well in either Rams game,
- 19:27Speaker 7: and he said Charles Cross came over him on the
- 19:29Speaker 7: sideline when he was pouting When Gray would say what
- 19:33Speaker 7: was pouting during the second Rams game and said, man,
- 19:36Speaker 7: these guys get paid too. He said that doesn't sound
- 19:38Speaker 7: like much, but just in the moment and how he
- 19:40Speaker 7: said it, it was pretty really reassuring for a veteran
- 19:43Speaker 7: to say, yeah, these guys we're playing are pretty good too.
- 19:46Speaker 7: He said, he really appreciated and he the moment and
- 19:49Speaker 7: emotions as they are during a game. That Cross would
- 19:51Speaker 7: say that just all part of the brotherhood that they
- 19:54Speaker 7: have established on the left side of the line. I mean,
- 19:57Speaker 7: think about this time last year Lake and Tomlinson was
- 20:00Speaker 7: their left guard and there was no future there. And
- 20:03Speaker 7: now they've got the left side of their line set
- 20:05Speaker 7: for at least the next three years and probably more
- 20:07Speaker 7: because they'll probably want to resign Xable, I would.
- 20:09Speaker 3: Think on the even Moory front, I mean, if they
- 20:13Speaker 3: do Shanny, I have to think Shannan's gonna try to
- 20:15Speaker 3: come up with something right. He's going to try to
- 20:17Speaker 3: come up with some way. Maybe it's just avoiding number three.
- 20:20Speaker 3: But if they say, okay, we believe that three can
- 20:24Speaker 3: cover Christian McCaffrey, if they were even split them out wide,
- 20:28Speaker 3: can he cover Christian McCaffrey.
- 20:31Speaker 7: Yes, and that's what he's here for, and that's why
- 20:34Speaker 7: they draft him, that's why they keep giving him all
- 20:36Speaker 7: these different assignments. Then I was told by people in
- 20:41Speaker 7: really inside the forty nine ers that the coaches didn't
- 20:44Speaker 7: think even Worry would cover McCaffrey or could cover McCaffrey. Well,
- 20:49Speaker 7: they do now, and so that alone will change how
- 20:52Speaker 7: they use McCaffrey on Saturday. But they thought Devin Witherspoon
- 20:56Speaker 7: was going to cover more than even Ory did. I
- 20:58Speaker 7: keep thinking about the fleece ficker play in Week eighteen
- 21:02Speaker 7: that was supposed to be a deep pass in the
- 21:03Speaker 7: second half. I think it was in the third quarter,
- 21:05Speaker 7: going right to left, and Witherspoon Julian Love took away
- 21:10Speaker 7: the deep ball, so the checkdown was on the right
- 21:13Speaker 7: flat to Christian McCaffrey. On a flea flicker, you expect
- 21:18Speaker 7: the team, the defense to either be fold and scrambling
- 21:21Speaker 7: trying to get back to receivers of breaking behind them
- 21:24Speaker 7: or staying back deep to have forwarded the play. That
- 21:27Speaker 7: if you have to use a safety valve, it means
- 21:29Speaker 7: because the defense weren't they weren't fulled. How many flea
- 21:33Speaker 7: flickers do we see to have a swing pass. That's
- 21:34Speaker 7: not the intent. But when you drop it off to
- 21:38Speaker 7: the swing guy, it's because the defense wasn't fooled and
- 21:41Speaker 7: they fell off right. So almost always on a play
- 21:45Speaker 7: like that, when you throw it in the swing, you've
- 21:47Speaker 7: got some yards from the swing bag because it's not
- 21:50Speaker 7: a normal play action behind it that would allow defenders
- 21:54Speaker 7: to be there. Well, there wasn't any defender in front
- 21:55Speaker 7: of McCaffrey when they threw the swing pass off the
- 21:58Speaker 7: flee flicker, but on a nowhere I mean like a
- 22:01Speaker 7: lightning bolt, even where he went from the hashmark to
- 22:05Speaker 7: the sideline and stopped McCaffrey short of the line to gain.
- 22:08Speaker 7: I couldn't believe the play. It's an overlooked play.
- 22:12Speaker 9: And I think the forty nine ers got a first
- 22:13Speaker 9: down the next player on third down anyway, but I
- 22:16Speaker 9: couldn't believe how they went from open field to stop
- 22:19Speaker 9: dead down no yards after catch.
- 22:22Speaker 7: Because of how quick he boy was and how sure
- 22:24Speaker 7: at tackle he is. That guy can cover anybody. I've
- 22:27Speaker 7: seen him cover the top wide receiver for teams well
- 22:32Speaker 7: down the field, all Pro justin Jefferson, I've seen him
- 22:35Speaker 7: cover George Kittle. I've seen him cover Christian McCaffrey. I've
- 22:38Speaker 7: seen him cover Kyen Williams. There's nobody on the field,
- 22:43Speaker 7: nobody in the league that he can't cover. Right now.
- 22:45Speaker 2: I was watching the Lakers game last night and he
- 22:47Speaker 2: held Lebron to seven points. Yeah, that's true.
- 22:52Speaker 7: That helped kid, all right, So you're going to be
- 22:54Speaker 7: twenty one years old, by the way, Yeah, I.
- 22:57Speaker 1: Know Greg Bella with us here on Chuck, and so
- 23:00Speaker 1: you're gonna have your fourth Steelers head coach of your life.
- 23:04Speaker 7: I know, I'm jarring, it really is. Well, we talked
- 23:09Speaker 7: yesterday they weren't gonna fire him, but he obviously had
- 23:13Speaker 7: made his mind up long before that game on Monday night.
- 23:15Speaker 7: You don't make a decision after nineteen years on just
- 23:19Speaker 7: the morning after. So this has been in the works
- 23:21Speaker 7: for a while. What's interesting is, and I'm sure it's
- 23:23Speaker 7: been brought up already, he's still in the contract for
- 23:26Speaker 7: the sex for the Steelers for two more years. They
- 23:28Speaker 7: signed him to an extension before the twenty four season,
- 23:31Speaker 7: so that means they could trade him. I was part
- 23:34Speaker 7: of a coach trade. The Raiders traded John Gruden to
- 23:38Speaker 7: the Bucks we got a ton of money because Davis
- 23:40Speaker 7: was cash strapped. And in the very next season, the
- 23:42Speaker 7: Buccaneers with Gruden beat the Raiders with the Raiders using
- 23:46Speaker 7: the same plays they had when Gruden was a coach.
- 23:49Speaker 7: So that Sean Payton got traded by the Saints to
- 23:51Speaker 7: the Broncos, and I think it was draft pick compensation
- 23:55Speaker 7: and money. So that opens up the possibility that Tomlin
- 23:58Speaker 7: does want to come back next year, if he truly
- 24:01Speaker 7: wants to take a year off, or even if he
- 24:03Speaker 7: wants to come back this coming year, that the Stealers
- 24:05Speaker 7: are in line to get something back for him.
- 24:08Speaker 1: All right, man, Well, it's been fun already this week.
- 24:11Speaker 1: We'll keep it going tomorrow with a round table. That'll
- 24:13Speaker 1: be great, and so we'll talk.
- 24:15Speaker 7: To you then it's a round table already. And then
- 24:18Speaker 7: Rich War's got me doing Friday night.
- 24:20Speaker 2: We're gonna Oh that's right, Seahawks Show. I wanted to
- 24:22Speaker 2: ask you about that. Tell everybody the details.
- 24:24Speaker 7: Yeah, from seven to nine after Dave Softy Maller and
- 24:27Speaker 7: Dick Faine Show on Friday, from seven to nine, I'll
- 24:29Speaker 7: be live and two hours of the Seahawks Divisional preview.
- 24:34Speaker 7: Talk to Jake Bobo. We talked to Julian Love. Sam
- 24:38Speaker 7: Donald'll be on there. Probably have a guest or two
- 24:41Speaker 7: from the Bear to talk about the forty nine ers.
- 24:44Speaker 7: Might even try to see if I get Chris Kidd
- 24:46Speaker 7: in line. He doesn't know it yet, but maybe we
- 24:47Speaker 7: can do a riddle of reunion and have him help
- 24:49Speaker 7: me out. But texts will probably opened up the phone lines,
- 24:52Speaker 7: which nobody does anymore. So might I just do it
- 24:55Speaker 7: because nobody does it anymore? Friday Night seven and nine?
- 24:58Speaker 2: All right, Friday Night seven and nine, g Greg Bell
- 25:00Speaker 2: special I love specialty shows. These guys know I love
- 25:02Speaker 2: specialty shows. So Greg Bell, seven to nine coming up
- 25:06Speaker 2: this Friday.
- 25:07Speaker 7: You guys are in bed by there. I know that
- 25:09Speaker 7: because you get up sorely.
- 25:11Speaker 1: No usually on my third martini from seven to nine.
- 25:14Speaker 1: So i'd be a great listener for you on pretext in.
- 25:18Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 25:19Speaker 2: Probably will me too.
- 25:20Speaker 10: Yeah, I'll take it.
- 25:23Speaker 11: All right.
- 25:24Speaker 2: We'll talk to you tomorrow every Wednesday.
- 25:27Speaker 7: Thank you?
- 25:27Speaker 1: All right, Greg Bell, Our Seahawks inside of joining us
- 25:30Speaker 1: right here on Chuck and Buck in the mornings, and yes,
- 25:33Speaker 1: roundtable tomorrow with Hugh a playoff round table. I was
- 25:37Speaker 1: so fired up, I even brought up at the meeting,
- 25:39Speaker 1: should we go two hours three hours with Greg and Hugh?
- 25:42Speaker 1: And I was looked at like I had words crawling
- 25:45Speaker 1: out of my ears. Yeah maybe, yeah, I might have
- 25:49Speaker 1: had words crawling out of my ears. Anyway, Greg's segment
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- 26:12Speaker 1: A little more reaction to some of the things Greg
- 26:15Speaker 1: just told us, some updates on some forty nine Ers
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- 27:34Speaker 1: divisional round for the Hawks as they take on the
- 27:37Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine ers. I love what Greg said,
- 27:39Speaker 1: and I don't. I don't know if it just came
- 27:42Speaker 1: up naturally, or if it is something that he's overheard
- 27:45Speaker 1: from Mike McDonald's mouth, or if he's paraphrasing or what.
- 27:49Speaker 1: But we were talking about, you know, Christian McCaffrey being
- 27:53Speaker 1: used out of the backfield obviously as a receiver and
- 27:57Speaker 1: as a running threat as well, and whether or not
- 28:01Speaker 1: Nick emn Woorry could cover him, and Greg used the phrase, yeah,
- 28:05Speaker 1: we got a guy for that.
- 28:06Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that.
- 28:08Speaker 1: I love that because to me, that's like Mike McDonald's
- 28:11Speaker 1: defense right now. And it's Mike McDonald. It's Mike McDonald
- 28:16Speaker 1: who's always thinking of, oh, okay, they were very successful
- 28:19Speaker 1: on that play. Well, I know how to fix that.
- 28:21Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's how he thinks. That's how his
- 28:25Speaker 1: mind works. And since we're the healthiest team knock on
- 28:30Speaker 1: Wood heading into the divisional round and we seem to
- 28:34Speaker 1: have just about everything everyone that we want at our
- 28:37Speaker 1: at our disposal for this game, I think that kind
- 28:41Speaker 1: of sums up my confidence with Mike McDonald's defense. No
- 28:44Speaker 1: matter what Kyle Shanahan tries on Saturday, I have a
- 28:48Speaker 1: feeling Mike McDonald can sit over there on the sidelines
- 28:51Speaker 1: and go, ah, I see.
- 28:52Speaker 2: What you did there. I got a guy for that. Yeah,
- 28:55Speaker 2: that just that's what. That kind of sums it up.
- 28:58Speaker 1: Oh, okay, what you're doing, you're gonna you're gonna run
- 29:02Speaker 1: DeMarcus Robinson because he had a big game last week.
- 29:06Speaker 2: Oh, I got a guy for that. Yeah, yeah, I
- 29:10Speaker 2: gotta raek Wolland's been playing a lot better in the
- 29:12Speaker 2: second half of the season. I think he can cover
- 29:15Speaker 2: him completely. Uh yeah, I got a guy for that.
- 29:18Speaker 1: So that's that kind of sums up my I think
- 29:21Speaker 1: that sums up Mike McDonald and and John Schneider's relationship
- 29:25Speaker 1: is not only does he is he excellent at x'es
- 29:27Speaker 1: and o's, but no matter what you try, he's got.
- 29:31Speaker 2: Oh, I know what you're doing. I got something for that.
- 29:35Speaker 2: That's kind of the.
- 29:36Speaker 3: Way he works, and I love it well. I mean,
- 29:38Speaker 3: in the last meeting, it was like he didn't even
- 29:40Speaker 3: have to see them do it. It was like he
- 29:43Speaker 3: had already prepared for it. I was I don't know
- 29:47Speaker 3: where I heard it, but I was listening to somebody
- 29:49Speaker 3: talk about how they Oh I think wash you yesterday
- 29:52Speaker 3: when he went on somebody else's.
- 29:54Speaker 2: Show, Oh, we got to talk to you about it.
- 29:56Speaker 3: He was talking about how they they, yeah, the gap
- 30:00Speaker 3: schemes versus zone schemes, and they had ran one gap
- 30:03Speaker 3: scheme where they're pulling a couple guys and it was
- 30:06Speaker 3: just destroyed. It was completely blown up in the backfield
- 30:10Speaker 3: by the Seahawks. Well that's I think that's good on
- 30:12Speaker 3: the players and good on the coaching. If they try
- 30:14Speaker 3: this and we recognize these guys blocking down, then you
- 30:17Speaker 3: expect this tackle or guard coming your way. Set the
- 30:20Speaker 3: edge right there. Christian McCaffrey has nowhere to go. And
- 30:22Speaker 3: then they didn't run that again the entire day. So
- 30:25Speaker 3: I think preemptively starting ahead is good.
- 30:28Speaker 2: But I just don't.
- 30:30Speaker 3: I guess where I'm not overly confident is that there's
- 30:33Speaker 3: not going to be something in that brain of Kyle
- 30:35Speaker 3: Shanahan that is going to be all right.
- 30:39Speaker 2: I got an answer for that.
- 30:41Speaker 3: And if it's yeah, if Mike McDonald, which he has
- 30:45Speaker 3: shown so far in his two years bad is good
- 30:47Speaker 3: of an ability of any coach I've ever seen, of
- 30:50Speaker 3: making adjustments to what somebody's doing. But if Kyle Shanahan
- 30:54Speaker 3: has three plays up his sleeve, if he has something
- 30:56Speaker 3: that is bigger than the two yard pass or the
- 31:00Speaker 3: six yard pass that's tackled two yards later, if he
- 31:03Speaker 3: has any big play up his sleeve, then that could
- 31:05Speaker 3: be a difference that could end up making it to
- 31:07Speaker 3: where it's not the way in which the dominant performance
- 31:11Speaker 3: defensively that will.
- 31:12Speaker 1: I don't discount, I said Kyle shan Asherby Coach of
- 31:15Speaker 1: the Year this year. I think he's excellent, and I'm
- 31:17Speaker 1: sure he is going to come up with some wrinkles
- 31:19Speaker 1: and some answers and some things that Mike hasn't seen before.
- 31:23Speaker 1: But what I don't think the forty nine ers have
- 31:26Speaker 1: at their disposal is the phrase, oh I got a
- 31:28Speaker 1: guy for that. I mean they've been running a lot
- 31:31Speaker 1: of thirteen personnel as of like they don't have a
- 31:34Speaker 1: guy for that anymore, right, I mean, it's certainly not
- 31:36Speaker 1: going to be George Kittle. Tungus moves up to the
- 31:39Speaker 1: Tungas moves up to the number one slot. Three guy
- 31:43Speaker 1: goes to two, and the two and the four guy
- 31:45Speaker 1: goes to.
- 31:46Speaker 2: Three, and then that's it.
- 31:47Speaker 1: I mean, there's your thirteen personnel that you've been so
- 31:50Speaker 1: successful with. It's missing its strongest, fiercest soldier. You don't
- 31:55Speaker 1: have Achilles in the army right now because his Achilles tour.
- 31:58Speaker 1: And so to me, it's a oh, I see what
- 32:02Speaker 1: you're doing with your run zone scheme, trying to get
- 32:06Speaker 1: Walker to the edge.
- 32:07Speaker 2: I got a guy for that. No, he's hurt, he's
- 32:10Speaker 2: not ready to come back, Fred Warner. Normally I would
- 32:13Speaker 2: have a guy for that, but I don't know if
- 32:14Speaker 2: I've got a guy for that.
- 32:15Speaker 1: So to me, it's like the combination of we've have
- 32:19Speaker 1: the same level genius and we've got a healthier roster
- 32:22Speaker 1: and a deeper roster.
- 32:24Speaker 4: Well, and that's the thing is, I think everybody does
- 32:25Speaker 4: keep talking about how Kyle Shanahan is going to you know,
- 32:29Speaker 4: react and all of the all of the things they'll
- 32:31Speaker 4: have up a sleeve for this meeting, But that is
- 32:33Speaker 4: the same thing that Mike McDonald is going to happen.
- 32:35Speaker 5: So, yeah, it's gonna be a fun game of.
- 32:37Speaker 4: Chess to watch those two, which is what we expect,
- 32:39Speaker 4: right one of them having this plan, Okay, well, how
- 32:42Speaker 4: will the other react to it? And it'll go on
- 32:44Speaker 4: all game long. And I have all the confidence in
- 32:47Speaker 4: the world that Mike McDonald will be just fine.
- 32:49Speaker 1: I mean, the forty nine ers are a great example
- 32:51Speaker 1: Shan last week of what Shannan can do. I mean,
- 32:54Speaker 1: you're down a Piersol and you're down, and then DeMarcus
- 32:58Speaker 1: Robinson goes out there and has a game.
- 33:00Speaker 2: But we've hadded now a week to prepare. Mike McDonald's
- 33:02Speaker 2: had a week to.
- 33:03Speaker 1: Prepare for DeMarcus Robinson not having a game. And Jowan Jennings,
- 33:06Speaker 1: I have no idea why you're so confident.
- 33:09Speaker 3: He is very excited to play the Seahawks.
- 33:11Speaker 1: Again because you had thirty five yards receiving the last
- 33:14Speaker 1: time you faced this team, and you spent the entire
- 33:17Speaker 1: game as the most frustrated forty nine er in the
- 33:20Speaker 1: entire galaxy.
- 33:21Speaker 4: So that happens again.
- 33:22Speaker 1: Why are you so excited for this? I guess for redemption,
- 33:26Speaker 1: you know, I guess for vengeance.
- 33:28Speaker 7: Yep.
- 33:29Speaker 2: But I didn't look like you had any answers.
- 33:31Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, you were so out of
- 33:32Speaker 1: answers you tried starting fights on the sidelines with people.
- 33:35Speaker 1: Sure did, yeah, so, yes, it seems like the Seahawks
- 33:41Speaker 1: at this point they got a guy for that.
- 33:45Speaker 2: That's comforting, It's comforting. Feeling right.
- 33:47Speaker 4: It's warming my heart.
- 33:48Speaker 2: Yeah, it's warm in my butt. No, my butt is warm.
- 33:52Speaker 3: Shouldn't put things there? You shouldn't do that.
- 33:54Speaker 11: M you can.
- 33:56Speaker 3: I mean, if you're just sitting on it, you.
- 33:57Speaker 2: Don't want to have a guy for that.
- 33:58Speaker 3: I'm just saying that's fair.
- 34:01Speaker 11: That's fair.
- 34:03Speaker 2: Oh well, I'm gonna ask Rich, Hey, could I get
- 34:06Speaker 2: a guy for that? On the box? A little warm?
- 34:08Speaker 2: Can I get a guy for that?
- 34:09Speaker 5: I have an idea for a guy for that.
- 34:11Speaker 4: Not it?
- 34:12Speaker 2: Why did we not it? All right, We're gonna get
- 34:15Speaker 2: reckless at breakfast next.
- 34:17Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you where all the head coaches are
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- 34:32Speaker 1: Hawks quarterback the Great Matt Hasselbeck is with us. It's
- 34:37Speaker 1: number eight at eight right here on Chuck and Buck.
- 34:39Speaker 1: Good morning, sir, Hey, good morning.
- 34:41Speaker 7: I like that.
- 34:41Speaker 5: Number eight at eight. Gues creative, we train, impressive.
- 34:44Speaker 2: We weaved all him. We ran it through our marketing team,
- 34:48Speaker 2: and that's what we came up with Chuck.
- 34:50Speaker 5: Are you the marketing team to be honest?
- 34:54Speaker 2: Well, uh, you know what I like.
- 34:55Speaker 1: We're on a zoom call right here, and last week
- 34:58Speaker 1: it looked like you were in your sun room and
- 34:59Speaker 1: then sun not your son's room, but your sun room.
- 35:03Speaker 2: And then this week you're down looks like the guest
- 35:07Speaker 2: guest maybe.
- 35:08Speaker 5: Room for I'm on the road.
- 35:11Speaker 2: I'm on the roads.
- 35:13Speaker 5: I'm on the mountains of North Carolina. Right now I'm
- 35:15Speaker 5: in Appalachia. It's yeah, but this actually might be better.
- 35:20Speaker 5: You know, I hit the sun hits in my office
- 35:23Speaker 5: right when, so eight o'clock eleven o'clock on the East coast,
- 35:27Speaker 5: So I need to shut the blinds next time I'm
- 35:29Speaker 5: on with you. I was blinded last last week.
- 35:32Speaker 1: I was going to offer you two thousand dollars a
- 35:33Speaker 1: month just to live in your guest room. That's what
- 35:35Speaker 1: I was going to offer. It just looks really nice
- 35:37Speaker 1: and cozy there.
- 35:38Speaker 5: But so I'm in Boone, North Carolina, home of app State,
- 35:41Speaker 5: and this thing came out like top I saw on
- 35:44Speaker 5: Instagram best stadiums in college football to see a game,
- 35:47Speaker 5: and number one was actually Husky Stadium, you dubbed. I
- 35:50Speaker 5: thought that was pretty cool. Number two was here in Boone,
- 35:52Speaker 5: North Carolina, APP State, So yeah, there's you know, people
- 35:56Speaker 5: are fighting over it. I'm sure, like you know, what
- 35:58Speaker 5: about Colorado? What about Utah? What about you know, all
- 36:01Speaker 5: the different places. But yeah, I'm excited to be here.
- 36:05Speaker 2: What brings you there? As if I don't know.
- 36:09Speaker 5: Well, my son just he's in this craziness of the
- 36:12Speaker 5: transfer portal. So he was at UCLA for two years,
- 36:16Speaker 5: red shirt freshman, fore head coaches in two years. Kind
- 36:19Speaker 5: of crazy. That's college football right now. Very screwed up.
- 36:22Speaker 5: And uh yeah, so we were in that whole world.
- 36:25Speaker 5: And and so he's at app State now and uh
- 36:28Speaker 5: so we went from LA to Boone, North Carolina. It's
- 36:31Speaker 5: very different, but very very awesome. We're we're excited a
- 36:35Speaker 5: lot of celebrity there.
- 36:37Speaker 2: Do you see George Clooney while you're at APP State?
- 36:40Speaker 7: You know?
- 36:40Speaker 5: So it's funny because like you know, it's uh we
- 36:42Speaker 5: went from you know, twenty five dollars smoothies named after
- 36:45Speaker 5: an actress you know, in LA, to uh here we
- 36:48Speaker 5: are here where like Cookout has a line down the street,
- 36:51Speaker 5: you know, not complaining, I like Cookout, but very different.
- 36:56Speaker 2: That's great.
- 36:57Speaker 1: Matt Hasselbecca is with us, so we've got him in
- 36:59Speaker 1: the playoffs every Wednesday at eight o'clock, and so let's
- 37:03Speaker 1: dive into this matchup. But your first reaction, your gut
- 37:06Speaker 1: reaction when you saw how the Wildcard weekend was unfolding
- 37:10Speaker 1: and you realized, oh man, we're gonna have to face
- 37:13Speaker 1: the forty nine ers again.
- 37:14Speaker 5: Well, first of all, the weekend lived up to the hype.
- 37:16Speaker 5: Like I think it's the most fun weekend of football.
- 37:18Speaker 5: It's not necessarily the best football. The best football to
- 37:21Speaker 5: me is the AFC NFC Championship week That's the best
- 37:24Speaker 5: football you'll see all year anywhere on the planet. But
- 37:27Speaker 5: Wildcard weekend is like when all the crazy stuff happens.
- 37:30Speaker 7: Like it.
- 37:31Speaker 5: It's called wildcard weekend for a reason. And I don't
- 37:33Speaker 5: think a lot of people thought the forty nine ers
- 37:35Speaker 5: is banged up as they were go on the road
- 37:37Speaker 5: and beat the defending world champs in Philly. You know,
- 37:41Speaker 5: as a player, I can tell you that it helps
- 37:43Speaker 5: when you go to Philly when their home fans start
- 37:46Speaker 5: booing them after they go three and out one time
- 37:49Speaker 5: in the first quarter, like it's kind of a I
- 37:52Speaker 5: enjoy that you know, I remember going back there in
- 37:54Speaker 5: five with Reggie White. They were going to retire his
- 37:56Speaker 5: number at halftime Monday Night football, and we were like,
- 38:00Speaker 5: you know, is this snowing? Is this tough game? And
- 38:03Speaker 5: those fans turned on them so quick, and we're like, oh,
- 38:05Speaker 5: we got this, you know, And I think we went home.
- 38:08Speaker 5: We won by like forty points or something that night.
- 38:10Speaker 5: So but no, I think for the Seahawks in particular,
- 38:15Speaker 5: it's disappointing that the Rams were able to come back
- 38:19Speaker 5: against Carolina because I do think we're gonna have to
- 38:21Speaker 5: play the Rams, and if Carolina could have taken care
- 38:23Speaker 5: of business in that one, that would have made our
- 38:26Speaker 5: path a lot easier. But I don't think you can
- 38:29Speaker 5: be upset about the fact that the forty nine ers
- 38:32Speaker 5: or your next opponent, you had thirteen days in between
- 38:35Speaker 5: the last time you played them. It's the last team
- 38:38Speaker 5: you played, and they have five days. The Niners are
- 38:40Speaker 5: only going to get to practice two times this week
- 38:43Speaker 5: in pads, and they lost some of their star players,
- 38:47Speaker 5: the biggest name being George Kittle. They're all world you know,
- 38:50Speaker 5: Rob Gronkowski type tight end. So this is a good
- 38:53Speaker 5: matchup for us in terms of rest. But at the
- 38:57Speaker 5: same time, they're no slouch. They're a good team, and
- 39:00Speaker 5: they're not going to roll over like they seemingly did
- 39:03Speaker 5: last time we played them.
- 39:04Speaker 3: What carries over, Hasselbeg and what carries over from a
- 39:09Speaker 3: dominant game? I mean, you absolutely put it on them.
- 39:11Speaker 3: You only won by ten because you didn't necessarily finish
- 39:14Speaker 3: all the drives. But defensively you absolutely shut down the
- 39:18Speaker 3: mastermind that is Kyle Shanahan and his crew. So what
- 39:21Speaker 3: carries over and what other things do you just expect
- 39:24Speaker 3: or going to change?
- 39:26Speaker 5: Well, I think you're exactly right now. Offensively in special teams,
- 39:29Speaker 5: we've been great all year. We didn't play well Week
- 39:31Speaker 5: eighteen against the Niners. Like, it wasn't our best game.
- 39:33Speaker 5: There were some you know, there were some highlight moments.
- 39:35Speaker 5: We ran the ball well, we did a good job
- 39:37Speaker 5: on critical third downs at the end of the game,
- 39:39Speaker 5: but we missed two kicks. You know, we took sacks
- 39:42Speaker 5: when we couldn't take sad Like, it wasn't our cleanest game.
- 39:45Speaker 7: Now.
- 39:45Speaker 5: Defensively, though, this is I think the challenge. You did
- 39:48Speaker 5: such a great job defensively. It was an absolute beatdown.
- 39:51Speaker 5: It was a historic performance from our defense. So do
- 39:54Speaker 5: you go in there with the same game plan and
- 39:56Speaker 5: you say, oh, it worked last time, Well, like, that's
- 39:59Speaker 5: dangerous because you know, Kyle Shannean and the Niners aren't
- 40:01Speaker 5: going to do what they did last time. They're going
- 40:03Speaker 5: to change, right, And so I think Mike McDonald obviously
- 40:06Speaker 5: smart enough. He realizes that he's got to go to
- 40:09Speaker 5: some of the other things in that previous game plan
- 40:11Speaker 5: that he didn't put on tape because Kyle Shannehan doesn't
- 40:15Speaker 5: know about him. But to think that you're just going
- 40:17Speaker 5: to line up and do exactly what you did the
- 40:19Speaker 5: last time, No, I don't This is the NFL. I
- 40:21Speaker 5: don't think that'll that'll play. I don't think that'll work.
- 40:23Speaker 2: Matt Hasselbeck is with us. It's number eight. At eight.
- 40:27Speaker 1: It's now gotten the stamp of approval from Matt himself
- 40:31Speaker 1: right here on Chuck him back in the morning says,
- 40:33Speaker 1: we get you ready for Saturday, forty nine Ers versus Seahawks.
- 40:37Speaker 1: What's your offensive approach for this game? You only put
- 40:40Speaker 1: thirteen points on the board, as you said, a couple
- 40:42Speaker 1: of miskicks, which normally doesn't happen to Jason Myers, but
- 40:46Speaker 1: certainly you don't think I wouldn't think that. You feel
- 40:50Speaker 1: you've got to put a lot of points on the
- 40:51Speaker 1: board the way the defense is going.
- 40:54Speaker 2: But man, you'd like to make.
- 40:56Speaker 1: It a little more comfortable than what it ended up
- 40:58Speaker 1: being a couple of weeks go. So are you aggressive
- 41:01Speaker 1: with Sam? Do you try to establish the run to
- 41:04Speaker 1: a fault? How do you approach this if you're Clint
- 41:06Speaker 1: Kubiak in the offense?
- 41:08Speaker 5: Well, I like aggressive play calling. I still like that,
- 41:11Speaker 5: you know, I don't. I don't like having training wheels on.
- 41:13Speaker 5: I don't like handcuffs. I like, you know, cut it
- 41:16Speaker 5: loose on your play calls. But Sam, you know you
- 41:18Speaker 5: got to communicate to him, Hey, we won this game
- 41:22Speaker 5: last time, and you threw I think you threw for
- 41:23Speaker 5: less than two hundred yards.
- 41:25Speaker 7: Like you.
- 41:26Speaker 5: If we get more aggressive as play callers, you got
- 41:29Speaker 5: to protect us with the ball. If you love it downfield,
- 41:31Speaker 5: cut it loose, man, cut it loose. If you don't
- 41:34Speaker 5: love it, hey, find your checkdowns. Let's lift to play
- 41:37Speaker 5: another day. Let our kicker kickfield goals, Let our punter punt.
- 41:40Speaker 5: You know that that kind of a mindset, and you know,
- 41:43Speaker 5: when it comes to analytics and some of that kind
- 41:45Speaker 5: of stuff. You know, you hear people on TV being like, oh,
- 41:48Speaker 5: it says it's fourth and four, you're supposed to go
- 41:50Speaker 5: for it right here. Like for me, maybe I'm a
- 41:53Speaker 5: little bit old school understanding how great your defense is
- 41:56Speaker 5: and how banged up this forty nine ers offense is.
- 42:00Speaker 5: Maybe just take points. Let your field goal kicker, Hey,
- 42:03Speaker 5: if he kicks five field goals in this game, that's
- 42:05Speaker 5: gonna be fine. Now I don't think it'll be that.
- 42:07Speaker 5: I think the Seahawks will get it right offensively, but
- 42:10Speaker 5: understanding the complimentary football that this defense is playing, in
- 42:14Speaker 5: some metrics even much better than the Legion of Boom
- 42:17Speaker 5: ever played. Like, understand, that's who's playing on the other side.
- 42:21Speaker 5: Those are your teammates. Let your teammates defend a long
- 42:25Speaker 5: field against a beat up team that had to manufacture
- 42:28Speaker 5: trick plays with wide receivers throwing reverse pass touchdowns last
- 42:31Speaker 5: week just to find offense. So yeah, I think that
- 42:35Speaker 5: that's the approach that I would take. But some at
- 42:39Speaker 5: some point here in the playoffs, our quarterback and our
- 42:42Speaker 5: wide receiver group and our pass game, they're going to
- 42:44Speaker 5: have to be the ones to put the team on
- 42:46Speaker 5: the back, So I want to shy away from having
- 42:49Speaker 5: that mindset even in a game like this.
- 42:51Speaker 3: The last time these two played, the defense was I've
- 42:54Speaker 3: said impeccable. I mean they're just tackling. They just were
- 42:57Speaker 3: smothering as far as nothing happen after the catcher. They
- 43:01Speaker 3: just didn't let any allow any big runs. Trent Williams
- 43:04Speaker 3: didn't play in that game. He did play in this
- 43:05Speaker 3: last playoff game. How big of a difference. I mean,
- 43:08Speaker 3: you know what it's like to have a Hall of
- 43:11Speaker 3: Fame guy protecting your backside. How big of a deal
- 43:14Speaker 3: is it him coming back? And does that change how
- 43:17Speaker 3: good Christian McCaffrey or they could run and pass.
- 43:22Speaker 5: It's a great point, and I think it's a huge deal.
- 43:24Speaker 5: I mean it's a huge deal to Kyle Shanahan when
- 43:27Speaker 5: he look at that call sheet, Like I can remember
- 43:29Speaker 5: games that we went into I think it was two
- 43:31Speaker 5: thousand and eight when we didn't have we didn't have
- 43:33Speaker 5: Walter Jones. Mike Holmgren would have to take that call
- 43:36Speaker 5: sheet and basically take any play that was a seven
- 43:38Speaker 5: step drop and just like tear it up, like, hey,
- 43:41Speaker 5: this is a great route combination. This would definitely work
- 43:44Speaker 5: but we don't have our left tackle, so we would
- 43:46Speaker 5: have to leave our running back into help or leave
- 43:48Speaker 5: a tighten into help, and then the play is not
- 43:50Speaker 5: really the play at that point. And so I think
- 43:53Speaker 5: it's a huge deal. Now couple that with the fact
- 43:55Speaker 5: that brock Purdy's pretty elusive. Give him an extra tick,
- 43:58Speaker 5: you give him an extra chance to get out of
- 44:00Speaker 5: outside the pocket or even run. I would say that's
- 44:02Speaker 5: been the kryptonite of the Seahawks defense if I had
- 44:05Speaker 5: to find something to say that, they're still, you know,
- 44:09Speaker 5: maybe susceptible to They do such a great job of
- 44:12Speaker 5: getting a pass rush that at times, you know, a
- 44:14Speaker 5: Bryce Young type quarterback, if he can buy time and
- 44:18Speaker 5: use his legs, that's what's hurt this defense. And so
- 44:22Speaker 5: brock Purdy, listen, he's not intimidated coming into Seattle. I'm
- 44:26Speaker 5: not sure he's ever lost in Seattle. I mean, he
- 44:28Speaker 5: just has that no flinch in his in his game
- 44:31Speaker 5: that people don't I don't think they understand. And also
- 44:34Speaker 5: he is very elusive despite what he looks like, he
- 44:36Speaker 5: doesn't look elusive. So to me, having this left tackle
- 44:40Speaker 5: is a it's big for them. It's I don't even
- 44:43Speaker 5: know if I can put it into words other than
- 44:45Speaker 5: your words, which is like it would be like not
- 44:47Speaker 5: having Walter Jones. That's what it would be like.
- 44:50Speaker 1: Just a quick aside and we'll get back into the
- 44:52Speaker 1: game here in a moment and analysis. I love Walter
- 44:55Speaker 1: Jones stories. You might have the best ones of anyone
- 44:58Speaker 1: in the world. What is your favorit, writ Walter Jones.
- 45:01Speaker 1: I can't believe what I just saw.
- 45:02Speaker 2: A story.
- 45:04Speaker 5: Well, I mean there are so many. I recently told
- 45:06Speaker 5: this one and people people, so Walter Jones like most
- 45:10Speaker 5: respected guy, but like back then he didn't talk ever.
- 45:13Speaker 5: And then the second most respected guy on our team
- 45:16Speaker 5: was was Max Strong, our full back, Like he didn't
- 45:18Speaker 5: talk ever. Now both those guys talk all the time.
- 45:21Speaker 5: But one time the PGA was in town and there
- 45:23Speaker 5: were no hotels in Bellevue where we stayed the night
- 45:26Speaker 5: before games, and so some people had to double up.
- 45:28Speaker 5: I think it might have been a preseason game or
- 45:30Speaker 5: something like that, and so guys that were you know,
- 45:33Speaker 5: had had like maybe more than ten years of experience
- 45:36Speaker 5: or something like that, got their own room. Well, Walt
- 45:38Speaker 5: always got his own room and Max Strong always got
- 45:40Speaker 5: his own room. Well, they had to room together the
- 45:42Speaker 5: night before one of our games. And so we're at
- 45:46Speaker 5: breakfast the next day, me and Robbie Tobeck and some
- 45:48Speaker 5: of the guys, and you know, Max Strong comes down
- 45:52Speaker 5: first for breakfast and you know, pregame meal, and we're like, hey, Mac,
- 45:55Speaker 5: what was it like rooming with Walter Jones last night?
- 45:57Speaker 5: He's like, I can't do it, man, he likes the
- 46:00Speaker 5: room too hot. You know, maybe that's what it takes
- 46:02Speaker 5: to be great as great as him, but like, if
- 46:04Speaker 5: that's what it takes, like, I don't think I can
- 46:05Speaker 5: do it. I can't sleep with a room that hot
- 46:07Speaker 5: and whatever. We're laughing, like, oh, that's really interesting. Mac leaves.
- 46:10Speaker 5: He goes to the game. We're all kind of milling around,
- 46:13Speaker 5: still talking. Walter Jones comes down, sits at the table.
- 46:16Speaker 5: We're all looking around. No one's saying anything.
- 46:19Speaker 2: I say.
- 46:19Speaker 5: I kind of whisper, hey, Walt, what was it like
- 46:22Speaker 5: room mech Max Strong last night? He's like, I can't
- 46:26Speaker 5: do it, man, he likes the room too hot.
- 46:32Speaker 12: Both those guys were so quiet, they wouldn't been like
- 46:39Speaker 12: and so basically, like I think Mac was like, Oh,
- 46:41Speaker 12: you're the greatest player on the team.
- 46:42Speaker 5: I just respect you. Out of respect, I'm not gonna
- 46:46Speaker 5: even touch the thermometer, the thermostat. And then in Walt
- 46:51Speaker 5: the same thing like, oh, you're Mac strong, you're the
- 46:53Speaker 5: oldest guy on the team, and you do all the
- 46:54Speaker 5: dirty work fullback out of respect. I'm just gonna, you know,
- 46:59Speaker 5: suck it up.
- 47:00Speaker 2: Oh that sounds horrible.
- 47:01Speaker 5: It's funny to me now though, to say those guys
- 47:03Speaker 5: like so loquacious and they're out there talking all the time.
- 47:06Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Wal, it's a big postgame analyst right now
- 47:10Speaker 1: on the television side up here.
- 47:12Speaker 5: So media darling me, as Mike Copan would say, don't
- 47:15Speaker 5: be a media darling, guys, don't be a media I'll
- 47:18Speaker 5: talk for the team. Don't be a media darling.
- 47:21Speaker 1: Matt Hasselbeck is with us here on Chuck a Buck
- 47:24Speaker 1: in the mornings every Wednesday through the playoffs, and of
- 47:28Speaker 1: course we are breaking down the game on Saturday, previewing
- 47:32Speaker 1: it for you from Matt's perspective. You mentioned George Kittle
- 47:35Speaker 1: right off the bat. We didn't spend a lot of
- 47:36Speaker 1: time on him, though. How much easier does the job
- 47:41Speaker 1: of Mike McDonald, the defense the Seahawks in general get
- 47:44Speaker 1: get with him not being on on this field on Saturday.
- 47:49Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's like the first thing you think of.
- 47:51Speaker 5: It's going to be so much easier because he's a
- 47:53Speaker 5: great player. But there's also this thing where where you
- 47:55Speaker 5: lose your leader, and George Kittle is the heart and
- 47:59Speaker 5: soul of that team. And I've heard every guy in
- 48:01Speaker 5: that locker room in San Franz talk about, we're going
- 48:03Speaker 5: to play this game for George. We're going to play
- 48:06Speaker 5: this game the way Kittle would.
- 48:07Speaker 2: Play the game.
- 48:07Speaker 5: And I think that's a dangerous thing, Like when you
- 48:10Speaker 5: have the heart and soul a guy that tore his achilles,
- 48:13Speaker 5: you know, it's not like a small injury. That's a
- 48:15Speaker 5: major injury. Is he even going to be back for
- 48:17Speaker 5: the start of next year? So I think there's something
- 48:19Speaker 5: special in that locker room where these guys are a
- 48:22Speaker 5: wounded animal. They're going to be like, hey, let's cut
- 48:24Speaker 5: it loose for our teammate and some of the tendencies
- 48:27Speaker 5: now go away. You know, they're going to be by
- 48:29Speaker 5: a committee, you know the Kyle Shannon called the game
- 48:32Speaker 5: last week against Philly when Kittle went out, it was
- 48:35Speaker 5: a combination of Kyle Hughes check the fullback and Christian
- 48:38Speaker 5: McCaffrey in non traditional matchups. So yeah, you know, in
- 48:42Speaker 5: some ways I think it's easier because a great player
- 48:45Speaker 5: is not there, But in other ways, I think it
- 48:47Speaker 5: presents new challenges.
- 48:49Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean when you're watching this defense, the nick
- 48:52Speaker 3: emn Warry has been a big conversation point around here,
- 48:56Speaker 3: as young as he is, and yet how much of
- 48:58Speaker 3: a kind of an X factor he can be playing
- 49:00Speaker 3: different type of stuff. Who does he remind you of?
- 49:03Speaker 3: And how big of a disadvantage is that as a
- 49:06Speaker 3: quarterback when you're you're looking around for somebody and you
- 49:09Speaker 3: don't know where the hell they're going to be lined
- 49:11Speaker 3: up at?
- 49:12Speaker 5: Well, he reminds me of Camp Chancellor. I mean, that's
- 49:15Speaker 5: that's the guy that he just size wise, six three
- 49:17Speaker 5: two twenty. I met him in Arroyo the tight end together,
- 49:22Speaker 5: you know, this offseason after the draft and I was
- 49:24Speaker 5: in Seattle and I saw both of those guys and
- 49:26Speaker 5: I was like, dang, like John Schneider is out here
- 49:28Speaker 5: drafting a basketball team. These guys are monsters. I'm like,
- 49:32Speaker 5: what positions do you guys play? Like they're telling me,
- 49:34Speaker 5: But like, I just think that's the creativity. It opens
- 49:39Speaker 5: up the creativity of Mike McDonald what he wants to
- 49:41Speaker 5: do on defense. So like a lot of times they'll say, oh,
- 49:44Speaker 5: it's a Nickel personnel meaning five dbs in the game.
- 49:46Speaker 5: Well what kind of nickel? Is it big NICKI min
- 49:49Speaker 5: Worri nickel, you know, or is it base meaning like
- 49:52Speaker 5: little bass where Emon Warri is kind of in a
- 49:54Speaker 5: linebacker role, Like how are you going to treat it?
- 49:56Speaker 5: So I think he's a Swiss Army knife type player
- 50:00Speaker 5: that way. And you know, I just think that he's
- 50:04Speaker 5: only scratched the surface of what he's going to be
- 50:06Speaker 5: as a player. I mean, I remember Cam Chancellor is
- 50:08Speaker 5: a rookie. You know, we're teammates him and Earl. Earl
- 50:13Speaker 5: was a little bit more game ready when he showed up,
- 50:15Speaker 5: played at Texas, played a ton. Cam was a later
- 50:18Speaker 5: round pick and you know, really developed into I think
- 50:21Speaker 5: one of the great safeties that's ever played the game.
- 50:24Speaker 5: But his rookie year he had to you know, Lawyer
- 50:27Speaker 5: malloy took him under his wing and Pete Carroll was
- 50:29Speaker 5: teaching him still, and you know, he just seemed to
- 50:33Speaker 5: get better and better every week. And I think you
- 50:35Speaker 5: could say the same thing about NICKI minworry.
- 50:37Speaker 1: Number eight at eight, Matt hasselback with us right here
- 50:40Speaker 1: on the Chuck and Bucks. So give me this in
- 50:42Speaker 1: our last couple of minutes that we have. I mean,
- 50:45Speaker 1: you've had playoff successes, you've had playoff failures. I mean
- 50:50Speaker 1: you can't use don't have Levy and his crew, You
- 50:54Speaker 1: can't use that as a key that can be an
- 50:56Speaker 1: answer in a playoff game.
- 50:57Speaker 2: So tell me what the now that.
- 50:59Speaker 1: You had the experience with it, what's the perfect mindset
- 51:03Speaker 1: as you get ready to start the playoffs that a
- 51:06Speaker 1: team should have.
- 51:08Speaker 5: Well, you did you know just since you mentioned officials,
- 51:10Speaker 5: you know, I do think that you know we've played
- 51:12Speaker 5: a full season now and now you know the referee
- 51:14Speaker 5: assignments come out. I believe it's John Hussey. And you know,
- 51:17Speaker 5: you can scout just like you scout an opponent, you
- 51:20Speaker 5: can scout an officiating crew. You can say, hey, this
- 51:23Speaker 5: umpire loves to call holding guys. Got to keep your
- 51:26Speaker 5: hands inside, you know on outside z own run plays
- 51:29Speaker 5: like you got to keep your hands inside. This guy
- 51:30Speaker 5: loves to throw a flag on this, Hey, quarterback, this
- 51:33Speaker 5: this this referee, the guy with the white hat. He throws.
- 51:38Speaker 5: Intentional grounding double what other people throw around the league. Hey,
- 51:41Speaker 5: wide receivers outside they call OPI. You know, most people
- 51:45Speaker 5: call DPI. This guy calls pushoffs. So you can, in
- 51:48Speaker 5: the same exact way, you can scout these officials because
- 51:52Speaker 5: there's a body of work. And so I do think
- 51:55Speaker 5: that that's an important thing. And that's not something we
- 51:57Speaker 5: really did ever in Seattle, but my brother Tim, he
- 52:00Speaker 5: played on you know, multiple teams, and you know, he
- 52:02Speaker 5: played I would say, primarily in the NFC East with
- 52:05Speaker 5: guys like Tom Coughlin and Joe Gibbs and and Andy Reid,
- 52:10Speaker 5: and that's something that they did religiously. And you know,
- 52:14Speaker 5: I just remember like kind of making fun of him
- 52:16Speaker 5: going into a game We're playing the Giants one time,
- 52:18Speaker 5: I believe it was a playoff game, and he was like, oh,
- 52:22Speaker 5: you know this referee, this referee leads the league in
- 52:25Speaker 5: intentional groundings, and I'm like, that's so stupid, dude, Like,
- 52:28Speaker 5: you know, intentional grounding is intentional grounding. It either is
- 52:30Speaker 5: or it isn't. It's not like a tendency, you know, duh.
- 52:34Speaker 5: And I got called for an intentional grounding that was
- 52:36Speaker 5: I'm I promise you. It was not intentional grounding, Like
- 52:39Speaker 5: like Maurice Morris was like right there, like it was
- 52:41Speaker 5: a dude right there, and and you know, sure enough
- 52:44Speaker 5: they throw the flag on me at You know, Tim's
- 52:46Speaker 5: my younger brother, the middle child. So I was like, ah,
- 52:50Speaker 5: he's just gonna give it to me on this one.
- 52:51Speaker 5: But I was not intentional grounding. But had I listened
- 52:54Speaker 5: to the scouting report on the officials, I think that
- 52:57Speaker 5: probably would have helped me.
- 53:00Speaker 2: All Right, where are you gonna be Saturday to take
- 53:01Speaker 2: this thing in?
- 53:03Speaker 5: I didn't answer your question too, by the way, But
- 53:05Speaker 5: with the Niners, this is this is the mindset that
- 53:07Speaker 5: I would have if I was on the defense. Okay,
- 53:09Speaker 5: trick plays. You gotta be ready for trick plays. Last
- 53:12Speaker 5: week the Niners they used Juwan Jennings one of their
- 53:16Speaker 5: wide receivers. But you got to go deep, deep into
- 53:19Speaker 5: the scouting report. Juwan Jennings when he came out of
- 53:21Speaker 5: high school, was rated had more stars than Lamar Jackson,
- 53:26Speaker 5: Sam Arnold, and Joe Burrow, same recruiting class as a quarterback.
- 53:30Speaker 5: So like when you're doing the scouting report this week,
- 53:34Speaker 5: if you're a defender, you got to know all the
- 53:36Speaker 5: different guys and what their backgrounds were, what they did,
- 53:39Speaker 5: if they played little league baseball. I want to know
- 53:41Speaker 5: if you're a lefty, I want to know. So to
- 53:44Speaker 5: answer your question, where am I gonna watch it? I'm
- 53:46Speaker 5: gonna watch it like on my couch where most people
- 53:48Speaker 5: are screaming at the TV and all excited.
- 53:50Speaker 1: All right, sounds great, Well, thanks Matt, awesome stuff. Again,
- 53:53Speaker 1: We greatly appreciate it. We can't wait to talk to
- 53:55Speaker 1: about a win next week.
- 53:57Speaker 5: Let's do it, right, you guys.
- 53:58Speaker 1: Matt Hasselback Johnny Us right here on Chuck and Buck
- 54:02Speaker 1: in the morning's former Seahawks quarterback lending us a little expertise,
- 54:07Speaker 1: nice wrinkles, nice observations, nice little you know angles that
- 54:12Speaker 1: we haven't really touched upon yet this week.
- 54:14Speaker 3: Yeah, well, yeah, we need to have We need to
- 54:17Speaker 3: have his brother on with Gene and find out what
- 54:20Speaker 3: the scouting report on Gene was. With Gene, Jeene, that
- 54:23Speaker 3: guy that threw a bunch of intentional groundings. I can
- 54:26Speaker 3: so see that my little brother saying, hey, watch out
- 54:29Speaker 3: for this.
- 54:29Speaker 2: I'm shut out. That's done. And then it coming back
- 54:32Speaker 2: to haunting you.
- 54:33Speaker 1: Know, for a long time I've thought that people should
- 54:35Speaker 1: study Major League Baseball umpires and their strike zones and
- 54:39Speaker 1: then bet the over under on the runs based on that,
- 54:42Speaker 1: not about the pitching matchup, about what kind of homeplate
- 54:45Speaker 1: umpire that you get. I've never followed up on it myself,
- 54:49Speaker 1: probably cost myself probably billions, maybe trillions of dollars.
- 54:51Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's definitely a thing. Yeah, is it a thing?
- 54:54Speaker 10: Yeah?
- 54:54Speaker 3: You know, which one of those clowns back there like
- 54:57Speaker 3: to give the plate like twenty inches instead of seventeen
- 55:00Speaker 3: supposed to be.
- 55:00Speaker 5: It's high billions.
- 55:02Speaker 2: Okay, high billions. I really have a different life.
- 55:05Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 55:06Speaker 2: Now I've given it too late. Now I've given everybody
- 55:08Speaker 2: the idea. All right, coming up next. He's a funny, funny,
- 55:12Speaker 2: haha guy. He's a jokey boy, and he is our friend.
- 55:16Speaker 1: Dustin Nickerson is with us on Sports Radio ninety three
- 55:19Speaker 1: point three kJ r F M. All right, Chuck Powell, Buckibson,
- 55:29Speaker 1: and Ashley Ryan with you here on this Wednesday morning.
- 55:33Speaker 2: Oh, it is our honor, our privilege.
- 55:37Speaker 1: It is with joy that we introduce our next guest,
- 55:41Speaker 1: our good friend, comedian Dustin Nickerson now joins us right
- 55:45Speaker 1: here on Chucking Buck in the morning.
- 55:47Speaker 2: It's been a while. It's been a while since we've
- 55:49Speaker 2: chatted with you. How the heck are you?
- 55:52Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, it's the jokey boy himself.
- 55:54Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 55:56Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean it's your joking boy. I believe last
- 56:01Speaker 11: time you called me up in.
- 56:02Speaker 2: Comer while you can rhyme now, joking boy.
- 56:07Speaker 7: I just I'm getting a lot of disrespect.
- 56:09Speaker 11: I know you guys can't afford Adam Ray and you're
- 56:12Speaker 11: stuck with me, but if you could just put a
- 56:14Speaker 11: little more respect on the profession. Other than that, I'm
- 56:18Speaker 11: doing good. Other than my intro is jokey boy. I mean, listen,
- 56:22Speaker 11: I understand that following Matt Hasselback a little bit of
- 56:25Speaker 11: a letdown for some listeners, But I'm doing well. Other
- 56:29Speaker 11: than that.
- 56:30Speaker 3: You're in the ring of honor, a comedy ring of
- 56:32Speaker 3: honor that I have in my heart, by the way.
- 56:35Speaker 7: So you know that.
- 56:36Speaker 11: Yeah, that's good.
- 56:37Speaker 7: Good, So.
- 56:40Speaker 2: It is very big. So what I heard was other
- 56:42Speaker 2: than Chuck, I'm doing fine. That's what I heard. Well,
- 56:45Speaker 2: a little bit of life's going good.
- 56:46Speaker 11: Other than what you say, Joe, Right, I think that
- 56:50Speaker 11: might be an entry out of Ashley and Buck's diary, right, there.
- 56:55Speaker 1: Probably right about that, you know, you know what, you
- 56:59Speaker 1: know what though, this is a true story our own
- 57:03Speaker 1: Jessamine McIntyre, who works here.
- 57:04Speaker 2: You don't know her, don't ever get to know her.
- 57:07Speaker 1: Uh. She sent us a text a couple of weeks ago.
- 57:10Speaker 1: She was like, do you guys want Adam ray On?
- 57:13Speaker 1: And I and Ashley can attest to this. My response was,
- 57:16Speaker 1: we're Dustin Nickerson people.
- 57:18Speaker 2: That's right, that's right.
- 57:22Speaker 11: Oh my gosh, well you made the wrong choice. Adam
- 57:25Speaker 11: is very fun. Yeah, that was that was a I
- 57:30Speaker 11: don't know if you guys just hate ratings, but you know,
- 57:35Speaker 11: you know, he's very popular for a reason. But you know,
- 57:39Speaker 11: I respect the loyalty. I respect that I am your
- 57:42Speaker 11: preferred jokey.
- 57:43Speaker 2: Boy, number one jokey boy.
- 57:48Speaker 1: Yeah, Tombstone professional comedian, seattleite.
- 57:55Speaker 7: I mean he is.
- 57:56Speaker 2: We got to know him during the Mariners this season. Really,
- 57:59Speaker 2: that's when we got to know you.
- 58:00Speaker 1: So a little different experience as a Mariner fan to
- 58:03Speaker 1: a Seahawks fan, at least for the last fifteen years.
- 58:06Speaker 1: So what is the difference in you as a fan
- 58:11Speaker 1: of the Mariners versus a fan of the Seahawks.
- 58:14Speaker 11: Oh, I mean, there's some hope. That's a Sea Hawks fan.
- 58:21Speaker 11: I mean, there's there's a prove written track record that
- 58:25Speaker 11: at least once in your lifetime you might experience joy
- 58:29Speaker 11: at the end of the season. And so yeah, there's
- 58:33Speaker 11: there's some hope in that regard. You know, you have
- 58:38Speaker 11: a proof of concept, I believe is the term I'm
- 58:41Speaker 11: looking for, like, oh, wow, this team could actually win
- 58:45Speaker 11: a championship.
- 58:46Speaker 2: So a little less.
- 58:49Speaker 11: You know, a little less I don't know, pessimistic, negative,
- 58:54Speaker 11: But that's also because it's Wednesday, you know, I mean,
- 58:57Speaker 11: by this time the weekend rulls around, I'm gonna probably
- 58:59Speaker 11: be full panic and you know everything objectively this game
- 59:05Speaker 11: you're like, well, the Seahawks should win comfortably, like objectively,
- 59:10Speaker 11: which which means subjectively, I'm like, wow, we'll probably choke.
- 59:14Speaker 11: It's the Seattle way. But you know, somewhere in between,
- 59:18Speaker 11: there is how I'm feeling on this Wednesday before the
- 59:20Speaker 11: big game.
- 59:21Speaker 3: Okay, so this is the this is the glass half
- 59:24Speaker 3: full version of how you're feeling right now.
- 59:27Speaker 11: It's as good as it gets, is as good as
- 59:30Speaker 11: it gets for me, which is on paper, this team
- 59:35Speaker 11: is the better team. But but that that's as good
- 59:38Speaker 11: as it's gonna get but you know, forty one years
- 59:41Speaker 11: of painting, you know, let down of cl sports franchises
- 59:45Speaker 11: and the fact that I'm a University of Washington alum,
- 59:49Speaker 11: and the last week and a half of that drama
- 59:51Speaker 11: has not been like, well, you know, everything's turning around
- 59:54Speaker 11: in my sports world.
- 59:57Speaker 3: Hey, you lost quarterback and then it came right back.
- 1:00:00Speaker 7: What did you make it? Oh?
- 1:00:01Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:00:02Speaker 11: I want to be a Husky. I'm not sure if
- 1:00:04Speaker 11: our quarterback does, but I want to be one.
- 1:00:09Speaker 3: Well, the good thing is that the Ducks ended up
- 1:00:12Speaker 3: and kept their zero alive. And I know that you
- 1:00:16Speaker 3: continue to want to Uncle Phil to live forever.
- 1:00:18Speaker 2: Right Oh man, that's uh.
- 1:00:21Speaker 11: I the University of Washington fan has a debt to
- 1:00:27Speaker 11: Indiana that can never be repaid. Just annihilate first the
- 1:00:32Speaker 11: gift of Penix and then to annihilate Alabama in Oregon
- 1:00:38Speaker 11: and back to back weeks. I was like, oh, Mike,
- 1:00:40Speaker 11: what did I do to deserve this love? You know
- 1:00:42Speaker 11: I got in a week's time. I received more love
- 1:00:45Speaker 11: from the University of Indiana than I did my mother
- 1:00:48Speaker 11: my entire life. So this is, you know, which is
- 1:00:52Speaker 11: why I'm a jokey boy, but thank you Indiana. So yeah,
- 1:00:58Speaker 11: that was that was a good watch.
- 1:01:00Speaker 7: It was.
- 1:01:01Speaker 11: I mean, if anyone's for Hawks fans, and especially for
- 1:01:05Speaker 11: Hawks and Huskies fans, I mean, what a what an
- 1:01:09Speaker 11: incredible three or four days of peace free, peaceful not
- 1:01:14Speaker 11: peace free that that's probably the Saturday but peaceful football watching.
- 1:01:19Speaker 2: I felt like the.
- 1:01:19Speaker 11: John Hamm meme going around. I was like, this is
- 1:01:22Speaker 11: as good as it gets.
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: Right here our number one jokey boy, Dustin Nickerson joining
- 1:01:27Speaker 1: us here on Chuck and Buck. So, I know you've
- 1:01:30Speaker 1: done a lot of material in front of Ducks fans
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: about Ducks fans. How about forty nine Ers fans and
- 1:01:36Speaker 1: just the forty nine ers in general? After years of
- 1:01:40Speaker 1: dealing with these you know these people, where are you
- 1:01:44Speaker 1: at with your feelings towards the San Francisco forty nine Ers.
- 1:01:49Speaker 11: Well, I will say this about Niners fans, to their
- 1:01:52Speaker 11: credit is you know, they're good natured, They know how
- 1:01:57Speaker 11: to take a joke, they never complain, they have good perspective.
- 1:02:03Speaker 11: They very little, very very rarely lose sight of the
- 1:02:07Speaker 11: fact that they haven't won a championship since the same
- 1:02:11Speaker 11: time the Cowboys used to wear win championships. No, I mean,
- 1:02:16Speaker 11: the the Niners terrible, just absolutely miserable. They're like, it's
- 1:02:23Speaker 11: just they're this weird mix of like like trashy but
- 1:02:28Speaker 11: also kind of like elitist, you know, like a like
- 1:02:31Speaker 11: a really you know what I mean, like a really confident,
- 1:02:36Speaker 11: like elite person that lives in a trailer park. You know,
- 1:02:40Speaker 11: You're like, dude, you don't even know who you are,
- 1:02:43Speaker 11: be one or the other. So I don't, Yeah, I don't.
- 1:02:47Speaker 11: I don't care for Niners fans, and uh, it'll be
- 1:02:51Speaker 11: that being said, you're like, oh god, I can't handle
- 1:02:54Speaker 11: another offseason of losing to them. They're just it would
- 1:03:00Speaker 11: and uh, it's just like it's very Seattle luck of
- 1:03:03Speaker 11: course that I mean, I tweeted that immediately that You're like, oh,
- 1:03:06Speaker 11: of course it was always going to be the Niners
- 1:03:08Speaker 11: or the Rams, and it's probably going to be the
- 1:03:10Speaker 11: Niners and the Rams at this point because it just
- 1:03:14Speaker 11: seemed that that was destined. But that means that, yeah,
- 1:03:18Speaker 11: I've done lots of I you know, I I've done
- 1:03:20Speaker 11: lots of Mariners with here I go, I do the
- 1:03:22Speaker 11: jokes everywhere I go. I mean, I you know, I'm
- 1:03:25Speaker 11: gonna be.
- 1:03:25Speaker 7: I was in.
- 1:03:26Speaker 11: Houston last weekend, uh, you know, making fun of Astros fans.
- 1:03:31Speaker 11: I'm gonna be in Eugene on Thursday opening for Bergazzi,
- 1:03:35Speaker 11: and I'll be back there headlining this summer. You know,
- 1:03:38Speaker 11: I'll go into the U, I'll march into Mordor and
- 1:03:41Speaker 11: tell some funny, tell some funnies.
- 1:03:45Speaker 1: You're so right, though, about the Safer, because they lead
- 1:03:48Speaker 1: the league in both, like ridiculously snobby, like Brie and
- 1:03:53Speaker 1: you know, if you've got like a champagne flute at
- 1:03:57Speaker 1: your you know, your tailgate, there's.
- 1:03:59Speaker 2: Something wrong with you.
- 1:04:00Speaker 1: So they sort of lead the league in that. But
- 1:04:02Speaker 1: they also lead the league in fights inside the stadium.
- 1:04:06Speaker 1: They right, they're they You're not supposed to have the
- 1:04:09Speaker 1: crown in both of those areas.
- 1:04:12Speaker 11: No, No, they You're like, are you San Francisco or Oakland?
- 1:04:16Speaker 11: Which one are you? You know, they've they've got they've
- 1:04:20Speaker 11: got a little bit of a little bit of both,
- 1:04:22Speaker 11: and they just have this weird merge of attitude that
- 1:04:26Speaker 11: is just frankly not earned.
- 1:04:28Speaker 7: I mean they are not.
- 1:04:30Speaker 11: I mean, if you wanna, if you wanna, if you
- 1:04:33Speaker 11: want a franchise that almost win, then yeah, the Niners
- 1:04:37Speaker 11: are your franchise, but they have they are. They are
- 1:04:41Speaker 11: not good at winning championships. I saw somebody they're good
- 1:04:44Speaker 11: at historically losing them.
- 1:04:46Speaker 3: Actually, somebody pointed out that their last championship was closer
- 1:04:50Speaker 3: to the moon landing than it was to present day,
- 1:04:53Speaker 3: which I thought was interesting. I'm wondering. No, I mean,
- 1:04:57Speaker 3: you wrote a little bit of a superstitious training. It
- 1:05:00Speaker 3: was more based on just planning. But you were on
- 1:05:02Speaker 3: stage during a lot of the Mariners postseason run. Are
- 1:05:05Speaker 3: you gonna be I don't know, if anything, just standing
- 1:05:09Speaker 3: on some sort of raised platform waiting for people to
- 1:05:12Speaker 3: give you updates on the Seahawk game or no.
- 1:05:14Speaker 11: Yeah, you know TPD so far that has not applied
- 1:05:19Speaker 11: to football, which you know is a very baseball thing, right,
- 1:05:23Speaker 11: the superstitions.
- 1:05:25Speaker 2: But you know, I'll be.
- 1:05:26Speaker 11: It's gonna be hard to do because I'm back on
- 1:05:29Speaker 11: the Bargazzi bus this week. I'm hitting the bright lights.
- 1:05:32Speaker 2: Baby.
- 1:05:33Speaker 11: We got big cities coming. We got Missoula, we got Yakama,
- 1:05:37Speaker 11: we got Eugene, all the bright lights. So so Saturday,
- 1:05:44Speaker 11: I'm either going to be in Montana or Yakama. I
- 1:05:47Speaker 11: don't even know wherever the bus drops me off. But
- 1:05:49Speaker 11: the point is I'm looking to be performing for eight minutes,
- 1:05:52Speaker 11: So unfortunately, if that is a superstition, I'm gonna have
- 1:05:58Speaker 11: to just set up and you know, I'm just gonna
- 1:06:03Speaker 11: have to set up my own open mic and perform
- 1:06:05Speaker 11: for the crew, which they will not care for.
- 1:06:07Speaker 2: Just but we'll do it. We'll do what it takes.
- 1:06:09Speaker 2: Just more time out on the town and Yakama.
- 1:06:14Speaker 11: Yeah, you know the bright lights, you know, I know
- 1:06:16Speaker 11: all the spots yeah.
- 1:06:19Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, crack of Vegas. I used to do
- 1:06:21Speaker 3: a lot of really fun things there.
- 1:06:22Speaker 11: If you want to know, okay, yeah, send me a
- 1:06:25Speaker 11: text and I will make sure. I'll tell Google Maps
- 1:06:28Speaker 11: to avoid those spots exactly.
- 1:06:30Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 1:06:31Speaker 1: How much of your time when you're with Bargatzi, because
- 1:06:33Speaker 1: he's like a sports nut in his own way, how
- 1:06:37Speaker 1: much time do you guys sit around talking sports and
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: complaining about your teams you root for.
- 1:06:44Speaker 11: Well, you know he's a Titans fan, a Vanderbilt fan.
- 1:06:50Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot.
- 1:06:51Speaker 11: We've got. Neither of us experience much joy in our sports,
- 1:06:58Speaker 11: so or at least we get some temporary joy that
- 1:07:00Speaker 11: we know eventually will will end in heartbreak. Or pain.
- 1:07:03Speaker 11: You know, it's a bit of a metaphor for life
- 1:07:05Speaker 11: in that regards. Sorry, that got darker for Mortaring Radio
- 1:07:08Speaker 11: than it should. Uh, okay, sorry, I'm having you know,
- 1:07:16Speaker 11: the kids are just getting back into school, we're all
- 1:07:18Speaker 11: getting back into the swing of things here. We've got
- 1:07:19Speaker 11: to work through our existential crisis on air and as
- 1:07:22Speaker 11: people sit in I five traffic. But the uh, we
- 1:07:26Speaker 11: do a lot and there's usually uh there's usually like
- 1:07:30Speaker 11: a room that the TV will be set up, and
- 1:07:34Speaker 11: most like what usually happens is because on this tour
- 1:07:37Speaker 11: there's just fan. There's there's crew and comedians from all
- 1:07:41Speaker 11: over the country, so we have there'll be one person
- 1:07:44Speaker 11: really into the game and then we all just kind
- 1:07:47Speaker 11: of uh watch the one person. You're watching the game,
- 1:07:50Speaker 11: but you're also watching the fan. And I'll be the
- 1:07:53Speaker 11: fan this weekend where they'll be watching enjoying a good
- 1:07:56Speaker 11: football game, and I'll be thinking, actually, I'd probably rather
- 1:07:59Speaker 11: watch this by myself and maybe I'll retreat.
- 1:08:04Speaker 1: I love it all right, Well, be confident as confident
- 1:08:09Speaker 1: as you're capable of being, enjoy have fun and uh,
- 1:08:14Speaker 1: you know.
- 1:08:14Speaker 2: We'll check in with you real soon. How does that sound?
- 1:08:17Speaker 2: Sounds good.
- 1:08:18Speaker 11: Sounds good. I'll be up there this spring. Maybe we'll
- 1:08:20Speaker 11: do something in person. If you guys want some jokey
- 1:08:24Speaker 11: boys in the studio.
- 1:08:25Speaker 1: Love to see you, jokey boy, and say hello to
- 1:08:28Speaker 1: missus joking boy for us as well.
- 1:08:30Speaker 2: I will.
- 1:08:30Speaker 11: Yeah, it's it's missus jokey girl.
- 1:08:34Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good. Good for you on that one.
- 1:08:36Speaker 3: She's actually really funny too. I've seen your guys a little,
- 1:08:40Speaker 3: your podcasting, that little podcast it's bigger than mine, one.
- 1:08:48Speaker 2: One of those up and coming podcasts.
- 1:08:51Speaker 3: It is hilarious, is my point.
- 1:08:54Speaker 2: Oh, thank you all right, man, have fun. We'll talk
- 1:08:58Speaker 2: to you soonpreciate it, all right.
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: Dustin Nickerson, the hilarious Dustin Nickerson, joining us right here
- 1:09:04Speaker 1: on Chuck and Buck in the morning.
- 1:09:06Speaker 2: Sorry, Coming up next.
- 1:09:07Speaker 1: We got some updates on coaches, some updates on challenges
- 1:09:11Speaker 1: and more.
- 1:09:11Speaker 2: Sports Radio ninety.
- 1:09:12Speaker 1: Three point three KJRFM Devil's It is al Kiniski. Good morning, Al,
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: good morning. How are you we just actually you're already
- 1:09:21Speaker 1: in the afternoon out there in Jersey. If you already
- 1:09:23Speaker 1: had like a pork roll and got a tramp stamp
- 1:09:26Speaker 1: while you're there, No, not yet.
- 1:09:29Speaker 10: Actually we're still in in Manhattan. We're going to bust
- 1:09:33Speaker 10: over to New Jersey this afternoon for the game. We
- 1:09:37Speaker 10: will have a police escort, not the kind you get
- 1:09:40Speaker 10: on praise blust plus expensive and less entertained, but it
- 1:09:45Speaker 10: does get you there on time.
- 1:09:47Speaker 1: Okay, all right, all right, good strategy on your part.
- 1:09:50Speaker 1: Just day in Manhattan the whole time.
- 1:09:53Speaker 10: I mean, come on, Manhattan over New Jersey and down better.
- 1:09:57Speaker 2: Why didn't you get it? Just a Motel six Hoboken and.
- 1:10:01Speaker 10: Call it a same thing, right, same thag is probably
- 1:10:07Speaker 10: just as good.
- 1:10:09Speaker 11: All right.
- 1:10:10Speaker 1: Well, I wanted to ask you about Maddi Beaniers because
- 1:10:14Speaker 1: it does feel like the production's been kicking up here
- 1:10:18Speaker 1: as of late for Maddy Beaniers. And yet I look
- 1:10:21Speaker 1: and he's had like a point in each of his
- 1:10:23Speaker 1: last eleven games on average, And I'm like, oh, that's good,
- 1:10:26Speaker 1: that's good. And then you compare it though to other
- 1:10:29Speaker 1: stars around the NHL and the league leaders, and I'm
- 1:10:33Speaker 1: talking like the top twenty guys get like two points
- 1:10:36Speaker 1: a game to lead the league. So it does feel
- 1:10:40Speaker 1: like Maddy's playing better, But I guess he's still not
- 1:10:44Speaker 1: where they ideally want him to get.
- 1:10:47Speaker 10: Oh yeah, I think the ceiling is much higher than
- 1:10:50Speaker 10: where he's at right now. But it has been great
- 1:10:52Speaker 10: to see, you know, his game evolved this year. We've
- 1:10:55Speaker 10: talked a lot, you know, in past conversations on the
- 1:10:57Speaker 10: broadcast about his two hundred foot game getting better. You know,
- 1:11:00Speaker 10: from the red line back to the krack and net.
- 1:11:03Speaker 10: He's playing better defensively, he's taking away pos, he's winning
- 1:11:06Speaker 10: puck battles along the boards. He didn't see that as
- 1:11:08Speaker 10: much in his first few years, so that that has
- 1:11:10Speaker 10: gotten a lot better. But you also want to see
- 1:11:13Speaker 10: that translate to the offensive side of the game as well.
- 1:11:16Speaker 10: And you know, for the first part of the season
- 1:11:18Speaker 10: it didn't seem to happen very much, and now you're
- 1:11:20Speaker 10: starting to see it turn a corner a little bit.
- 1:11:22Speaker 10: So I think it's stepping stones. He's made that next
- 1:11:24Speaker 10: next step. But to your point, there's a lot more
- 1:11:27Speaker 10: stepping stones in front of them that I think he
- 1:11:29Speaker 10: can get.
- 1:11:29Speaker 3: To as far as yeah, what it takes to guess
- 1:11:32Speaker 3: be like a big time store scorer, you know, then yeah,
- 1:11:36Speaker 3: there's definitely more steps.
- 1:11:37Speaker 2: But right now, the team's playing well.
- 1:11:39Speaker 3: I mean, you got a lot of youngsters that are
- 1:11:41Speaker 3: stepping up, and so everybody's just kind of chipping in.
- 1:11:43Speaker 3: Maybe it's you don't have that aircraft carrier like they
- 1:11:47Speaker 3: call it in baseball. But I am wondering right now,
- 1:11:49Speaker 3: are you seeing something special out of the youngsters in
- 1:11:52Speaker 3: the way in which the team is playing collectively?
- 1:11:56Speaker 10: Oh? Absolutely. I mean you can talk about Berkeley Catton,
- 1:11:59Speaker 10: you know, four goals in the last three games, you know,
- 1:12:02Speaker 10: starting to get on the board more. You can talk
- 1:12:04Speaker 10: about the fourth line, Ben Myers, Jacob Lahnson and depending
- 1:12:09Speaker 10: on who's on that left wing, Ty Carceo or Ryan
- 1:12:11Speaker 10: Winterton not not just you know, playing well, but having
- 1:12:14Speaker 10: a direct impact on the out on the outcome of
- 1:12:17Speaker 10: the game. And then the case of Jacob Malanson, who's
- 1:12:20Speaker 10: now fourth on this team in hits absolutely an impact
- 1:12:24Speaker 10: on the outcome and they're exciting to watch. They create energy,
- 1:12:28Speaker 10: the shift momentum. So it's not just about scoring goals
- 1:12:31Speaker 10: with those three guys, but but Berkeley Catten, that fourth
- 1:12:35Speaker 10: line and even Shane Wright starting to you know, put
- 1:12:38Speaker 10: pucks in the net. So Berkeley Catton is playing on
- 1:12:41Speaker 10: that third line with Shane Wright and Jared McCann is
- 1:12:44Speaker 10: the right winger, and I like that because Jared mccannon's
- 1:12:47Speaker 10: got so much skill and an offense on his own,
- 1:12:50Speaker 10: not to mention leadership, he's helping bring those other two
- 1:12:54Speaker 10: guys along. I think that line could be a surprisingly
- 1:12:58Speaker 10: top lot good line here by the end of.
- 1:12:59Speaker 1: The Yeah, we talked about this just yesterday. I think
- 1:13:04Speaker 1: that the young kids really did provide a spark much needed.
- 1:13:08Speaker 1: I think they're the spark that they brought. The energy
- 1:13:10Speaker 1: that they brought was as much responsible for the team's
- 1:13:13Speaker 1: turnaround here in the last ten twelve games as really anything.
- 1:13:17Speaker 1: And now if you can marry that with Jayden Schwartz
- 1:13:21Speaker 1: coming back and Montour coming back, it feels like to me,
- 1:13:26Speaker 1: if the league's going to start to adjust to what
- 1:13:28Speaker 1: the kids are doing to make the crack and win
- 1:13:31Speaker 1: more hockey games. It feels like all of those veterans
- 1:13:34Speaker 1: are coming back just in the nick of time to
- 1:13:39Speaker 1: bail them out and to lend their expertise.
- 1:13:43Speaker 10: Well, yeah, I mean, looking at some of these injuries
- 1:13:45Speaker 10: that have happened. You know, over the course of the
- 1:13:47Speaker 10: first thay four games, you thought, well, Jennuary is going
- 1:13:50Speaker 10: to be your toughest part of the season. With seventeen
- 1:13:52Speaker 10: games in thirty one days. You hope to get most,
- 1:13:55Speaker 10: if not all, those guys back somewhere, you know, ideally
- 1:13:58Speaker 10: earlier in that month, to the middle of the month.
- 1:14:01Speaker 10: But you're close. I think Montree will be back before
- 1:14:05Speaker 10: this this this road trip. Jayde Schwartz is already back.
- 1:14:09Speaker 10: This team has not been one hundred percent healthy at
- 1:14:12Speaker 10: all this season season. Even in Game one you had
- 1:14:14Speaker 10: Copo Cocco out of the lineup. So it's going to
- 1:14:17Speaker 10: be interesting to see, you know, what decisions have to
- 1:14:19Speaker 10: be made from a roster standpoint, because not all of
- 1:14:21Speaker 10: them can be on the roster if they're one hundred
- 1:14:24Speaker 10: percent healthy. But it's also going to be interesting to
- 1:14:26Speaker 10: see what they can do with a one hundred percent
- 1:14:29Speaker 10: healthy roster, what that team looks like, you know how
- 1:14:32Speaker 10: you know how they play against top teams in this league.
- 1:14:35Speaker 3: Well, when is the trade den? I think it's like March, right,
- 1:14:38Speaker 3: and and so do you both we can March. Do
- 1:14:40Speaker 3: they have to wait and see how this team's playing
- 1:14:43Speaker 3: for another month before they make a decision or is
- 1:14:46Speaker 3: it one of those Yeah, you are dealing with some injuries.
- 1:14:48Speaker 3: Hopefully some guys are coming back, and you just trust
- 1:14:51Speaker 3: that you're going to be in this thing and you
- 1:14:54Speaker 3: make a move to add something right now.
- 1:14:57Speaker 10: Well, as of the end of the game against the Rangers,
- 1:15:00Speaker 10: the win inter night, this team was sixty eight percent
- 1:15:03Speaker 10: likely to be in the playoffs this year, and so
- 1:15:06Speaker 10: you know you have to think, well, if they can
- 1:15:08Speaker 10: continue to have success in this month of January, which
- 1:15:11Speaker 10: you know it was going to be a arb, either
- 1:15:13Speaker 10: things were going to implode and you were going to
- 1:15:15Speaker 10: lose fifteen of seventeen, or you were going to go
- 1:15:18Speaker 10: on a run. And it seems like they're kind of
- 1:15:21Speaker 10: leaning towards that going on a run standpoint. Again, with
- 1:15:24Speaker 10: and with coming back, our guys coming back healthy, I
- 1:15:27Speaker 10: think it can only get better. So from a trade standpoint,
- 1:15:31Speaker 10: management's got to look at this and say what pieces
- 1:15:35Speaker 10: or piece do we need to go as deep as
- 1:15:37Speaker 10: we can in the playoffs. So you're not going to
- 1:15:38Speaker 10: make one trade and be a Stanley Cup contender. That's
- 1:15:41Speaker 10: just not a reality. But there's no reason why one
- 1:15:45Speaker 10: or two more pieces couldn't get you deep into the
- 1:15:47Speaker 10: playoffs and then set you up for potentially making a
- 1:15:51Speaker 10: Cup run in the next one or one to three years.
- 1:15:53Speaker 1: Al Kiniski is with US color analyst for your Seattle
- 1:15:56Speaker 1: crack and the trade deadlines March sixth, there's an even
- 1:16:00Speaker 1: your date before that. From the standpoint of what it
- 1:16:04Speaker 1: does to the course of the crack and season, and
- 1:16:06Speaker 1: that is the Olympics, and you've already mentioned that. What
- 1:16:12Speaker 1: do you think what kind of impact do you think
- 1:16:13Speaker 1: that that could have positive negative for the crack and
- 1:16:18Speaker 1: to take that much time off, Yeah.
- 1:16:20Speaker 10: I think it's gonna obviously for the guys that don't go.
- 1:16:22Speaker 10: It's going to give those guys a chance to rest
- 1:16:24Speaker 10: their bodies, so they're going to be in a good
- 1:16:26Speaker 10: position when that when the league picks up again after
- 1:16:28Speaker 10: the after the Olympic break. I think for the guys
- 1:16:31Speaker 10: that do go to the Olympics, cocko a group hour
- 1:16:38Speaker 10: and UH and told then not to mention Oscar Fisker
- 1:16:41Speaker 10: Moguard for Denmark.
- 1:16:43Speaker 11: UH.
- 1:16:44Speaker 10: For those guys, I think it's one of three things.
- 1:16:46Speaker 10: I think their game gets better because they're playing with
- 1:16:49Speaker 10: and against the best guys in the world. I think
- 1:16:51Speaker 10: it's neutral, maybe there are four games and they're out
- 1:16:53Speaker 10: and they're flying back home. Or the detrimental side, which
- 1:16:57Speaker 10: is there's an injury and obviously you don't hope for that,
- 1:16:59Speaker 10: but you know you're going to have injuries come out
- 1:17:02Speaker 10: of the play out of the Winter Olympics. And so
- 1:17:04Speaker 10: the question is with the Krack and sending three guys
- 1:17:08Speaker 10: into the Olympics versus other teams that have six or
- 1:17:11Speaker 10: seven guys' those are the better teams. The vegas is
- 1:17:14Speaker 10: if you will, there's a higher likelihood that there could
- 1:17:16Speaker 10: be injuries with those teams that have more guys than
- 1:17:18Speaker 10: the Olympics, and that could potentially help the crack and
- 1:17:21Speaker 10: coming out of that Olympic break.
- 1:17:23Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:17:24Speaker 3: I mean the nice part too is that some of
- 1:17:26Speaker 3: these guys, I mean, maybe not groovy and but some
- 1:17:29Speaker 3: of the guys that are heading in younger guys. I mean,
- 1:17:31Speaker 3: is the experience of playing in Olympics something that you
- 1:17:36Speaker 3: just can't really get playing anywhere else.
- 1:17:40Speaker 10: Yeah, I think so. I mean, the four Nations was
- 1:17:42Speaker 10: pretty close last year. But I think you know, as
- 1:17:45Speaker 10: far as a player is concerned, you want to win
- 1:17:47Speaker 10: a Cup, and you want to win a medal, and
- 1:17:49Speaker 10: ideally a gold medal, and there's just no other way
- 1:17:51Speaker 10: to do it other than going to the Olympics. And
- 1:17:54Speaker 10: you might play on a team where you know, on
- 1:17:57Speaker 10: a ten year career, you go to the Stanley Cup
- 1:18:00Speaker 10: finals two or three times. If you're lucky again on
- 1:18:02Speaker 10: a good team, you might never get a chance to
- 1:18:05Speaker 10: go to the Olympics for whatever reason as a player,
- 1:18:07Speaker 10: and so in some ways it's a harder achievement to
- 1:18:10Speaker 10: get and so having that opportunity, most players are never
- 1:18:13Speaker 10: going to turn it down.
- 1:18:14Speaker 1: All right, give us a thumbnail sketch of this matchup tonight,
- 1:18:18Speaker 1: New Jersey around to five hundred record Kracking obviously playing
- 1:18:23Speaker 1: really good hockey right now, what do you expect?
- 1:18:26Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, the Devils had a tough run since
- 1:18:28Speaker 10: the end of November. I believe it was seventeen or
- 1:18:32Speaker 10: eausely four seventeen oh one or something like that. But
- 1:18:36Speaker 10: they won against Minnesota in their night, a game that
- 1:18:39Speaker 10: gave the Kracking a really tough run the other day.
- 1:18:41Speaker 10: So they're coming off with win, they've got a little
- 1:18:43Speaker 10: bit of confidence, they're in their own building. It's going
- 1:18:46Speaker 10: to be a tough match for the Kracking. But here's
- 1:18:48Speaker 10: the thing. You know, there's a back to back between
- 1:18:50Speaker 10: the Devils and the Bruins tonight and tomorrow. Then you
- 1:18:54Speaker 10: get a day off and you get an afternoon game
- 1:18:56Speaker 10: against the Utah Mamboth. I absolutely think these next two games,
- 1:19:00Speaker 10: even though it's a back to back, are winnable games
- 1:19:03Speaker 10: for the Kraken. They seem to have solved this back
- 1:19:05Speaker 10: to back issue if they're able to pull a wins
- 1:19:08Speaker 10: out in both those games. They're going into Utah, which
- 1:19:11Speaker 10: has some ghosts. They haven't won them that Delta Center
- 1:19:13Speaker 10: building yet, but it sets them up for a potential
- 1:19:17Speaker 10: for want to no road trip, but worst case maybe
- 1:19:20Speaker 10: it's three one on one or three two in one.
- 1:19:22Speaker 10: But there's no reason why they can't finish this road
- 1:19:24Speaker 10: trip with at least six points and if they're if
- 1:19:27Speaker 10: they're really good.
- 1:19:28Speaker 2: Eight that's the that's problem with having a trick back
- 1:19:31Speaker 2: to back. You can throw it back to back out
- 1:19:33Speaker 2: at any moment. So hopefully they don't. You know, we
- 1:19:37Speaker 2: had a back to back strong, you know, by the
- 1:19:41Speaker 2: way I can built for that back to back, Yeah, exactly.
- 1:19:43Speaker 1: I don't know if you're a fan of Seinfeld, but
- 1:19:45Speaker 1: I hope you run into Putty and Foreverett's sake. I
- 1:19:48Speaker 1: hope he finally gets to meet Snookie while you're there
- 1:19:51Speaker 1: in New Jersey.
- 1:19:53Speaker 10: We'll look for the faith Painter himself.
- 1:19:56Speaker 2: There you go. All right, Now, we'll have fun tonight.
- 1:19:59Speaker 1: We'll be listening, all right, boys, sit here, all right,
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