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Carl Kerby: God Will Use You In Times Of Testing · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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  Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
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  defending biblical Christianity.
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  No topic, off limits.
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  And now, here's your host, David Firazzo.
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  Hey, friends, family and Christ.
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  We're blessed to have Carl Kirby back with us with reasons for hope, and we're going
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  to talk about all kinds of things today, including spiritual warfare, including how God is sovereign
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  over everything we go through, including health trials and how that tests our faith.
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  And Carl's got a personal example and a story of what he's still going through.
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  I find it to be very, very interesting, because I've been following that since he was in
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  the hospital.
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  We'll let him tell you about it.
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  The website is r4h.com, it's reasons for hope, rforh.com.
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  And Carl Kirby, we're so blessed to have you back.
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  And thanks for your time today, brother.
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  Good to see you.
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  David, you have no idea how much you blessed me, but even keeping up with all this stuff
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  that's been going on.
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  Well, reminding you that people do see those, the posts when people pray.
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  I have like you, you know, I don't know how many followers, but not everybody sees when
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  you put something out there, but I believe, you know, I know there's some censorship and
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  there's some algorithm issues on social media.
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  But again, if you're Christian, God sovereign over at all, he lets people see what the people
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  that want, that he wants to see your posts are my posts, and I got to keep surrendering
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  that to him.
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  But we're going to get to your story and your continuing saga in just a minute.
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  But you've got a new debunked video coming out, and you mentioned, we'll talk a little
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  bit more about this issue later, about identity, male and female.
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  And man, the enemy sounds like he's trying to throw all kinds of stuff at you guys to
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  delay it.
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  Tell us about what you're, by the way, first, the guy's the website for debunked.
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  It is get debunked.org.
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  There it is.
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  Get debunked.
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  He's got a brand new one, and I believe this is going to be very powerful.
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  And one of the reasons is the enemy hates it, and he's trying to prevent it from, so tell
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  us what's going on with that, Carl.
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  Yeah, this one's been a crazy ride.
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  Like we've been doing this for a long time now, right?
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  Well, this one, we had the script totally written.
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  We actually got this one sponsored, which is a big deal for us, right?
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  Because they're so dog on expensive to produce.
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  We got this one sponsored, got the voice done on it, sent it to the animator, animator.
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  We have to, we have to wait on them because we couldn't hire them full time, right?
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  So they're doing jobs for other people, put it like this.
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  The people that do our videos, Prager You uses them to do their videos.
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  They saw our stuff and they hired our team.
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  Our team essentially does the Prager You videos.
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  They just have a whole lot more money to put into them to make them blow up.
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  So the quality is just phenomenal on it, right?
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  But so our animator, he's, you know, he does it in between jobs.
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  We get it to the point where it's almost done.
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  He gets hired full time and he's like, I can't finish this.
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  And I'm like, are you kidding me?
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  I mean, but now we got to think into another animator.
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  We go to the other animator and by the way, it's kind of a blessing in disguise because
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  this guy is super good as well.
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  And Bob went back to it again because this is going to be, look, we're debunking the
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  claim that there's more than two genders.
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  And so you can, you can know right out of the shoe.
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  You know, we don't like to address really tough, difficult topics.
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  So, you know, we try to keep him milk toast.
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  And so the two gender thing, man, we're going after.
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  There is only two male female, right?
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  Well, this new animator is extremely good as well.
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  But we've had to give him, he looks at and he says, I can't, I can't pick up and go
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  where this guy was.
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  He's a totally different style and everything.
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  So we've had to give it to a new animator.
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  Bob took that time, went through the script again, made it even tighter because he's
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  like, this, we're going to come under so much scrutiny on this one, he quadrupled checks
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  it.
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  And so it's at the animator now and we are praying, Lord willing, that we'll see it
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  out into May, early June, once the animator's finished with it and we go through the checks
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  and all that sort of thing.
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  But this has really literally been the one that we've had the most spiritual attacks
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  on out of all 28 that we've already done.
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  So the title, I love it, the title, see, for people that aren't familiar with debunked,
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  you throw out a title on there that makes a statement and then dot, dot, dot debunked
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  in the video actually debunks what the statement is.
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  And this one says, there's more than two genders debunked, right?
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  So I think there's a reason, there's a reason why we do that, believe it or not, we found
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  that when we would put up anything saying, there's only two genders, right?
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  It goes nowhere, the algorithm is just shut you down, abortion is wrong, abortion is evil,
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  abortion is sinned, shut you down, it goes nowhere.
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  So what our team figured out was that if we put it up that there's nothing wrong with
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  abortion debunked, there's more than two genders debunked.
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  If you put up that negative and then throw the debunk on, it throws the algorithm off
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  so that it can get out to a broader audience.
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  So if we do it intentionally because the world knows how to shut us down, brother, we
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  have went into this over and over and I know you have as well.
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  Anytime anybody is dealing with anything from a solid, biblical, conservative position,
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  you're going to run into this.
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  But God is still in control.
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  We're still going head to head.
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  We're still going to go for it and I know you are as well.
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  And I appreciate that about what you do, brother, the people you have on your show to
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  really uphold God's word and its authority.
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  It's so important.
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  It's been such a blessing, such a blessing to talk to some of the guests I get to talk
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  with.
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  But I want to go back to the one thing and the warfare you're experiencing because of
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  this.
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  There were in a time where in my previous, my last book, my most recent book, I wrote
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  a chapter called What What Are Great Grandparents Think.
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  And everybody responds just like that, oh my goodness, what would they think if they
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  could be alive in the year 2025 with the stuff that's going on, the delusion, the confusion,
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  the demonic agendas, the open, prideful assaults on God and the Bible and the truth, redefining
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  truth.
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  It's off the charts, wicked, evil, calling evil good.
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  So the spiritual warfare that's happening, it's not surprising.
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  And it hits us in so many different ways when you're trying to do God's work.
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  So let's transition now into what you've recently been through health wise.
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  And then Lord, Lord willing, we'll come back at the second half of the podcast.
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  We'll talk a little bit more about what God's put on your heart regarding messages to
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  kids on identity, their identity in Christ, word over the world and the song.
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  But right now let's go back to just you were on the road and set this up.
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  You were on the road and you all of a sudden you ended up in the ER.
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  Tell us what happened and what the, go ahead.
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  Where have you want to start?
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  Well, God decided that he was going to put me on a month and a half mission outreach to emergency rooms.
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  So I've been in, I've been in three emergency rooms, one urgent care in one month and four states.
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  My, my heart started just going crazy.
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  So they've called it atrial flutter as well as a fib.
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  So my typical resting heart rate is anywhere from 49 to 53.
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  It's really low.
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  And all the sudden man is jacking up to 150 plus.
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  And so the first time it happened, I go to the, I went to an urgent care.
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  I'm in the VA.
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  I, when I, when I got approved for the VA healthcare, I lost my other civilian quote unquote healthcare.
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  And so I went to an urgent care that was here local because it was a Saturday.
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  And I didn't want to go to the emergency room just, you know, don't understand it's still to this point.
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  But urgent care, I go in there and bang, I, I, I'm there for an hour and a half and it just gets back into the, and a rhythm.
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  Good to go. We're, we're good.
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  The next week, literally the next week on the Saturday again, I, I'm in Milwaukee and it goes off on me again.
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  They had a VA there. So I go into there.
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  I'm in there about five hours.
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  It comes back into sync.
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  The next week, I'm in Washington state, no VA there.
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  So I have to go to an emergency room at 11 o'clock at night.
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  I'm in there till three in the morning.
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  But let me put it to you like this.
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  That one to me was so special because the, the, the, the nurse that I had.
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  Let's put it and say that she would not be in agreement with us.
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  Okay.
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  Let's be kind and gentle here.
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  She would not be in agreement with us.
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  I'm talking pierced, tatted, hair cut, the very masculine.
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  And we just, I'm joking with her.
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  I mean, we're just back and forth.
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  It got to the stage because I'm in there till three in the morning.
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  And by the way, I did not cancel speaking.
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  I got up at seven in the next morning.
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  We went and we did the speaking, but, uh, brother, that's why I'm out there.
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  Right. So, uh, we're, we're two, three hours into this emergency room.
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  And this lady, she starts opening up to me and I'm asking her.
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  She's telling me about her family and all this.
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  And I'm like, can I pray for you?
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  And boom, I pray with this lady in the, uh, in the emergency room.
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  When we get done, she writes this beautiful note on the, the discharge paper comes up,
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  giving me a big hug.
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  Um, then the next week I was in Florida.
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  And that's the one that was kind of the worst, uh, because it wouldn't go away.
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  Like the other three places, it settled back down on its own.
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  Well, Florida, uh, this one broke my heart because you got to understand the school that
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  brought me down there six, seventh and eighth graders.
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  The teacher calls me a few months ago and is like, would you do a zoom thing?
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  These kids have gotten so excited about evangelism.
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  They're buying tracks and they're going out and sharing their faith.
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  They love the debunked videos.
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  It has encouraged them so much.
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  The mic'd up program that you guys have and has fired them up.
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  They're buying tracks on their own nickel and going out and evangelizing to update you.
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  They bought over 2300 tracks on their own dime and handed those things out.
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  So this is where I'm going down to, but I've had three weeks of bad luck, right?
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  Every weekend, my heart going off on me.
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  So I took Frank Figueroa down with me and I love Frank and April.
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  So they came down with me just in case and sure enough, brother, I'm telling you right
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  now.
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  Third, it's been good.
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  I walk in Thursday morning to set up the projector, bang, it jumps up to like 148.
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  I set the projector up.
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  I did the first talk, did the Q&A and it didn't go down.
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  So then I'm like, Frank, you got to take over.
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  I go to the emergency room.
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  They put me on IVs to medication to make a slowdown, didn't slow down, didn't do anything
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  so they admitted me.
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  And long story short, the next day I was here that night, the whole next day, and they
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  ended up doing a cardio version, which they knocked me out and put pads on me and shocked
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  my heart and brought it back into sync.
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  And so my heart was breaking because those kids, man, had done so much and when you see
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  young people get excited, Dave, I know you've got to, you've got to, you've got to feel
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  it as well.
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  What more can you do but get this next generation fired up?
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  And so my heart was breaking because I'm in a hospital, man.
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  But Dave, I'm telling you, Frank killed it.
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  We got the greatest comments from those, from the folks there, how, how the kids responded.
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  And so, and I had great ministry there.
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  I'm telling you, I prayed with both my nurses and that one.
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  I started here.
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  Here's a new thing for you.
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  This is something I just started in that hospital because it was really busy.
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  I mean, really, really busy.
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  I mean, all night I'm here in code blue in this room, code every like 30 minutes literally.
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  I'm in the cardiac award.
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  I started because the people coming in, they're so overwhelmed with all the over, you know,
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  the stuff and I'm like, what is the greatest decision that you've ever made in your life?
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  Brother, I am telling you, you cannot believe the conversations that I had.
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  One lady, I'm in there getting ready.
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  They just shaved my chest and stuck these things out of these patches on me to not, you
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  know, to do this heart thing and before they knock me out.
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  And I ask her that and she looks at me and goes, wow, I have never been asked that.
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  Keeping my son.
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  What do you mean?
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  I'm 24 years, yeah, I was 24 years old.
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  I was in law school.
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  I decided law school.
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  I did not want to be a lawyer.
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  I get pregnant.
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  I'm single.
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  Everybody told me to abort my child, but I didn't.
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  He's 11 years old now.
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  I married the man and we have three other children and he's a beautiful young man.
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  I mean, you cannot believe the conversations, the way that people opened up over a simple
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  question.
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  What is the best, what is the greatest decision you've ever made in your life?
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  Now many of them responded back to me.
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  So you have to be prepared to respond back to that.
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  I was ready for it, brothers.
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  So you're a great, great ministry.
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  Both barrels.
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  Carl, just ask, you have a, you should get a t-shirt, say, just ask me.
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  My mother just today, I got my birthday present from my mother and on the back is if you
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  need prayer, tap my shoulder.
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  What happy birthday week, by the way, so Carl, we got to take a brief break in a minute,
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  but I forgot to mention, you've got an updated book out.
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  Can you tell us about it?
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, go ahead.
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  Oh, absolutely, man.
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  I mean, we do the camps, right?
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  We do so many camps in the summer, young people there and they have questions.
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  We hand out index cards.
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  What are the questions keeping you from selling out for the Lord Jesus Christ?
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  We take those questions.
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  We turn them into debunked videos, but we also turn them into glad you asked books.
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  So we take 28 of the most commonly asked questions, and then I've sent them out to some dear friends.
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  Scientists, we have a strong science section in this one because what about all the human
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  fossils?
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  Where did all they go?
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  What about carbon dating?
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  So we brought in some science guys so that we have one special section on the science
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  type questions, but then we handled, and these are all from the kids.
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  We're not making these things up, right?
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  So I handled, you know, well, the Bible said this wrong to judge.
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  So you can't judge me, right?
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  And believe it or not, Genesis, is it real history?
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  Those were the two that I did, but it's 28 of the most common questions that we get asked
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  from the young people, and we answer them solid, biblically and scientifically, and pray
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  that parents will take them and incorporate them in their studies with their children.
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  Address these issues.
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  These are the ones that kids are asking us.
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  So it's a beautiful tool.
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  Awesome.
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  And friends, you can get that at the website, r4h.com, and just scroll over resources.
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  Carl Kirby, our guest, so back to your story now, Carl, update us.
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  So you had a emergency room or urgent care ministry, which is great.
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  It's a great reminder, though, for a lot of us that are in that situation, you're just
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  thinking about yourself, but there's another human being.
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  There's a nurse or a doctor or someone else that needs God most likely needs to be minister
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  to.
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  So the great questions.
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  And for you to be going through with your heart, asking the Galen Washington, Washington
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  state, how can I pray for you?
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  That probably blows some people away.
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  So just continue your story and just share how God has shown you his sovereignty and just
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  how your faith continues to be stretched through this.
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  Well, you know, what I experienced was peace.
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  It was so weird because I'm going in there.
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  And of course, I'm a little nervous.
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  My heart just never does that.
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  I mean, it literally gets when my heart is going like that.
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  My head will be looking straight ahead, but my vision is to do to do back and forth
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  with the heart.
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  My eyes aren't jiggling, but because of the blood vessels, you know, blood pumping through
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  the eyes is just boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, and so it's kind of freaky.
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  And it's like, but I'm sitting here saying, okay, God's in control of this.
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  He's got me here for a reason and a purpose.
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  So what is it?
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  The one in Florida, I mean, I had this one lady that she was the sweetest.
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  She was very sweet.
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  And after they'd done the cardio version and everything, they got me out and it was
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  probably like four o'clock in the afternoon and she looks at me and she says, it's a Friday
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  afternoon.
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  Man, you're going to have to spend another night and I said, oh, man, please don't do this.
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  And I've been witnessing tour and sharing whether we prayed, whether I was like, man, please
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  let me out of here.
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  This cardio version is a outpatient type thing.
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  Is there any way I can get out of here?
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  He's like, no, the doctors are all gone.
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  It's Friday afternoon.
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  They've all gone.
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  And so I went back in the room and I put my pants on.
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  I put that, you know, had the gown on with all the wires and all this stuff, you know,
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  when I said, man, I just got to get some walking in.
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  I've been in that bed for a day and a half, right?
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  I got to get some walking and she said, yeah, you can walk down the hall.
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  So I walked down the hall and I'm sitting down there about five minutes later.
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  She runs up to me.
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  I got the doctor on the phone and we talked to the doctor.
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  She went out of her way, brother.
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  She went above and beyond and got me out of there.
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  Wow.
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  So I get out now.
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  They put me on two medications.
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  Now this is a crazy story here, David.
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  They put me on these two medications.
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  I'm in the VA.
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  The VA, I get my medications through there.
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  Like, you got to start to sing a blood thinner and a thing to slow my heart down, right?
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  Like, great.
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  I go to CVS pharmacy.
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  I said, you know, like to get these filled and how much is it?
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  And the guy looks at me and says, what's your insurance?
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  I said, I don't have any.
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  I'm in the VA.
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  He says, look, $750 for this one medicine.
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  Just one.
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  And they put me on two.
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  And I was like, oh, man, they said I got to start taking this stuff.
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  I don't go home for three more, you know, two more days.
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  He said, you're in the VA?
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  Go to Publix.
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  So I go to the Publix, I am a Publix fan.
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  I look, Publix stamp, Publix Publix.
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  I go to the Publix.
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  I go in, I go walk up to the lady there and I say, look, I'm in the VA.
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  I just got to the hospital.
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  And I mean, I'm looking bad, brother.
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  I'm in a T-shirt.
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  I mean, I can't take a shower for two days.
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  My hair is dirty.
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  I'm in blue jeans.
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  Just my T-shirt.
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  Both arms have got taped with, you know, because they've been taking blood out of both arms.
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  And I'm looking like a wreck.
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  And I get this lady and I say, oh, I come in the VA and I got to get these medications
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  and the CVS said that you might work with me.
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  She goes over.
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  It was 10 to 7.
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  I'll never forget this.
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  It was 10 to 7.
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  She says, come over here.
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  She goes on.
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  She gets on a computer.
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  Boom, boom, boom, boom, 40 minutes later at 740, because I finally said, look, just
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  tell me a week's worth and I'll get home and I can afford a week's worth.
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  Give me a week's worth and then I'll get the VA and we can fill it in, right?
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  So I get to, and she's like, got it.
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  After 40 minutes, 740.
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  Got it.
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  What did you mean?
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  She went to the website for the medication, filled out this form, and got me a one month
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  free trial.
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  40 minutes she did this.
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  I didn't ask a thing.
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  I didn't even ask for something like this, right?
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  On her own initiative, she did all this and then she gets it done and she says, okay,
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  the pharmacist is going to fill it for you because I was supposed to get off at 7 o'clock.
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  This lady stayed 40 minutes over time.
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  I'm telling you, I'm crying.
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  I'm crying in a public's grocery store because there are still good people out there and
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  so folks that are hurting right now, yeah, I get it, man, but there are still good people
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  out there.
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  Those good people because that lady impacted my life.
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  She truly did, man, I went to the manager, I went to the store manager saying praise
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  is that bought her a gift card, get this.
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  I got back here, my daughter-in-law, her sister's husband worked for public's big dog up in
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  there.
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  I sent him stuff.
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  I'm like, you know what, we can be a blessing to people.
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  We really can if we just can get to the point where yes, things are a struggle right now,
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  but I can still be a blessing for other people.
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  He did it for me, man.
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  So I want to do it for other people as well because he did it for us.
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  Even when we're going through trials, even when it would be tempting to just focus on yourself
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  and what you need, there's another human being on the other side of the counter or the
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  telephone or whatever the context is.
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  Carl, it sounds like you have another testimony of God's faithfulness when it comes to favor.
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  God gave you favor with the nurse, with the young public's.
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  Pretty amazing.
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  A good stuff.
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  Now, before we wrap up, I have to just ask how people can pray for you and your top
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  couple of requests.
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  I mean, health wise, I know the ministry, right?
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  You want the ministry to reach more people and kids and more dates and stuff like that.
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  You want to get debunked out.
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  We know that.
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  So, Carl, how can we pray for you?
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  Honestly, biggie is our camps, the youth camps because we have a very, very busy summer.
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  And I'm now going to miss the first camp.
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  This is the update that I just got.
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  I went to the, my cardiologist called it the electrician.
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  So I went to the EP and today, and it's a blessing.
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  Again, this is a blessing.
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  He's like, okay, June 3rd.
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  So June 3rd, I'll be in getting an ablation for atrial flutter and atrial a fib.
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  And so, but that's in the middle of our first camp.
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  I'm missing that first camp and that again breaks my heart because I have been working
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  like crazy on this new talk that I really, I want these kids to know who they are before
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  the Lord Jesus Christ.
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  And this has really been a passion talk.
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  I mean, I've been doing this for a long time, right?
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  But this last three weeks that I've been home after, because I can't, I had to cancel
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  everything the rest of the month after this last event.
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  This last three weeks has been such a sweet time of I want these kids to know who they
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  are before the Lord Jesus Christ.
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  I've been working on this talk and I can't wait to give it.
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  But now it's going to be another week till I can give it because I got to cancel that
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  first camp.
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  So I'd pray, ask for prayers for my procedure that they're going to do.
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  It's an outpatient thing.
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  It's supposedly not a big deal.
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  But June, what?
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  What are you getting up to?
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  June 3rd.
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  June 3rd.
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  Okay.
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  Well, if it's any encouragement to you, I had that very same thing.
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  I had an ablation done in 2018.
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  Okay.
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  I'm on nomads, praise God.
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  That's it.
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  Great job.
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  And, you know, it's, you don't know, I mean, I didn't hear even hear about that procedure
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  before I had a fib, so.
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  But praise God.
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  Thank you, Lord.
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  And so, pray for Carl, friends.
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  So in the last three minutes or so, Carl, let's go back to the debunked.
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  The topic of the new debunked, you're trying to get out.
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  And what you just shared, one of the talks is just trying to get kids, Christian kids,
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  to understand their identity in Christ.
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  Amen.
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  Can you please speak to that in the last couple of minutes, just please?
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  Oh, well, what a privilege.
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  Look, we do, they've, Glander, who runs our camps, has done an amazing job.
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  He hands out an index card and says, when, fill in the blank, when I look in the mirror,
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  I see, fill in the blank.
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  And then we collect them, we don't want names on there, not trying to embarrass anybody.
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  And then we read them.
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  And, and, and I'm telling you right now, my heart breaks every time I think about this
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  because out of the years that we've been doing these camps, I can count on one hand the
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  number of times anybody has said anything positive.
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  It's always negative.
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  I'm ugly.
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  I'm fat.
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  I, my parents say that I'm the problem.
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  I wish I were dead.
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  I mean, it's like it's, it's, it's horrible, right?
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  And then the point that we try to make to them is like, look, if this is the way that you
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  see yourself, you can never see yourself the way that God sees you and God sees you as
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  his workmanship, you are his masterpiece and that word that is used there, please anybody
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  that's struggling with self issues, self value, self worth, we all have those problems.
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  We all do.
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  I struggle with them.
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  Look, I grew up with some pretty ugly things, right?
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  And, and those things are still in my head, but I got to remember this, I am who he said
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  that I am.
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  It doesn't matter what I've done.
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  It doesn't matter.
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  It's been done to me.
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  It's matter what he did for me.
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  And I, we want this younger generation to know you can make mistakes.
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  You are going to make mistakes.
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  That's reality.
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  But regardless of those, God loves you so much that while you were spitting on him, while
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  you were telling him that you wanted nothing to do with him, he came and he died on
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  across.
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  Your value has everything to do with who he is and what he did.
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  He loved you.
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  He created you.
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  He made you.
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  He formed you.
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  He put you in your mother's womb and loved you so much that he just died for you.
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  I, we can't, I can't understand that, David.
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  I can't understand that.
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  When you know who I am at my core, I mean, the only reason this hospital stuff has been
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  so important to me is because I failed miserably when my wife was going through it.
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  I had gotten so focused.
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  I, I'm in hospitals with my wife and I was not outreaching.
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  And that, to this day, breaks my heart because I've gotten so focused inward.
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  And that was the catalyst to change this time around when I was in the hospital.
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  So young person, old person, God loves you.
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  He died for you.
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  He made you.
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  That's where your value comes from.
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  Amen.
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  Ephesians 2, 10, for we are his workmanship, his work of art, his masterpiece, created in
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  Christ Jesus to do good works that he prepared in advance for us to do.
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  Amen.
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  Even before we knew we were to do certain ministries or works, God prepared this for us.
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  We just have to walk in it and trust him.
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  Carl, I hope this encourages people and I know it bless me just hearing your story and
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  how God used you even when you were going in with heart issues.
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  Let that be a testimony to all of us.
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  We look to look for those opportunities because they will come, right, brother?
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  Amen.
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  Thanks so much for your ministry.
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  Lord willing, we'll get you on when the new debunk comes out.
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  And Jesus.
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  Amen.
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  Thanks for your time, Carl.
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  See ya.
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  Alright, God bless you friends and as always keep speaking the truth about things that matter.