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THROWBACK INTERVIEW: Voletta Wallace The Notorious B.I.G.'s Mother · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: Breakfast Club Morning.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne the Guy. We
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  Speaker 3: are the Breakfast Club. We got some special guests joining
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  Speaker 3: us this morning. We have Miss Valletta Wallace welcome, good morning.
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  Speaker 4: Good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning.
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  Speaker 3: And we also have our good friend Wayne sitting in
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  Speaker 3: the background gray and said he was about to leave,
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  Speaker 3: but he ain't going nowhere.
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  Speaker 2: Way about ow he ain't going nowhere.
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  Speaker 1: What's up, brother, I'm blessed, I'm blessed and be a blessed. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Man, it's a very special thing happening this weekend, the
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  Speaker 5: twenty twenty Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductions and
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  Speaker 5: the late Great Christopher Wallace, the Notorious b I G.
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  Speaker 5: Will be inducted into the twenty twenty Rock and Roll
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  Speaker 5: Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 2: That's great, an, So what does that mean to you?
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  Speaker 3: How do you feel about that?
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  Speaker 4: Well, for me, the mother, of course, I'm very very
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  Speaker 4: happy about it. I'm related about it. I'm thrilled. I'm
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  Speaker 4: only sorry it's not here. Yeah, to be a part
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  Speaker 4: of it. That you know, most of these honorary honor
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  Speaker 4: honors are going to people who are not here, right,
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  Speaker 4: you know, but I'm sure he would be thrilled for
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  Speaker 4: that reason.
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  Speaker 2: I am thrilled to myself, Wayne, what does it mean
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  Speaker 2: to you?
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  Speaker 5: I got to ask you the same question, what does
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  Speaker 5: it mean to you?
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  Speaker 1: You know what it's it's it's kind of one of
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  Speaker 1: those bittersweet things. I'm on it. It's he's never been
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  Speaker 1: able to experience what we've experienced from his fans. Right,
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  Speaker 1: the accolades came after his passing, right, he was on
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  Speaker 1: the custom of doing so much. So it's bittersweet for
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  Speaker 1: me from that standpoint, but I think it's extremely well deserved.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm thankful to the Rock and Roll Hall of
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  Speaker 1: Fame for, you know, saying acknowledging him for his music
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  Speaker 1: and his art. And you know, it's been a hard
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  Speaker 1: more fight over these last you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 1: twenty four years, So yeah, this is it means a lot,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm blessed and I'm thankful and grateful that we
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  Speaker 1: were able to experience this, and more specifically that Miss
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  Speaker 1: Wallace was able to be here to witness them.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 6: Miss Wallace, how does it feel that Biggie is celebrated
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  Speaker 6: so much? Like even to this Day and Brookland. There's
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  Speaker 6: murals of Biggie everywhere. Every single restaurant you go into,
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  Speaker 6: there's a painting hanging hanging up of Christopher Wallace on
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  Speaker 6: the wall. He has his own street and everything. How
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  Speaker 6: does that feel for you?
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  Speaker 4: A very proud mother, very proud mother. Sad sometimes when
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  Speaker 4: I see things that brought tears to my eyes. Once again,
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  Speaker 4: as I said, He's not here to see these things.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm going to be honest with you, my son
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  Speaker 4: is being acknowledged in so many entities, so many avenues,
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  Speaker 4: so many programs. Everywhere you turn, there's a Biggie, there's
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  Speaker 4: a notorious. There's this I never knew, and I can
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  Speaker 4: honestly say I never knew that my son was that.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to use the word famous. I never knew
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  Speaker 4: because I'm not a rap model. You know, I don't
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  Speaker 4: know anything about rap music. I've learned over the years,
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  Speaker 4: you know what it is and how to appreciate it.
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  Speaker 4: Now I appreciate it, I really really do. I appreciate
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  Speaker 4: the young men who are trying, you know, who've done it.
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  Speaker 4: But that wasn't me because even today I'm trying to
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  Speaker 4: listen to some of the words what did he say
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  Speaker 4: or well, you know, when he spoke of a s,
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  Speaker 4: I thought he was talking about Holloway, I don't know,
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  Speaker 4: but no, I know what it is.
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  Speaker 3: Now, let me ask a question, now where Pepsi just
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  Speaker 3: released an unreleased freestyle from Big right now? Are there
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  Speaker 3: are the unreleased records and verses that you guys might
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  Speaker 3: know of or something like that. Because this was a surprise,
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  Speaker 3: this was so long ago, it's like, wow, there might
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  Speaker 3: be some some verses that's still lingering around.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, it is.
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  Speaker 1: People are holding on to some of those those jewels.
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  Speaker 1: We just got to get a hold of it. But
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  Speaker 1: most of what the actual state controls and has actually
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  Speaker 1: access to it is what it is. It's you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, It's been exploited. It's been out there
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  Speaker 1: just Pepsi commercials and you know what I'm saying, in
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  Speaker 1: the works from ninety seven when it was done, Wow,
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  Speaker 1: deal just couldn't get done. Then he pounds and then
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  Speaker 1: it just kind of went and enough just continued to
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  Speaker 1: fight to make sure that you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 1: that it stayed relevant and the connection with Rob Stone
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  Speaker 1: over the Cornerstone, him and his team are the ones
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  Speaker 1: that brought it back to.
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  Speaker 4: Lights, So you know what I'm saying. And at one
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  Speaker 4: point we couldn't find that take. Oh wow, at one
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  Speaker 4: point we couldn't find it.
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  Speaker 2: Where did y'all find it? Was it at mister C's house?
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  Speaker 2: Was it at Puff's crib?
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  Speaker 1: Where was it where they enough had a copy of it? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's that's why it sounds so choppy.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It was It's not digitized
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  Speaker 1: anything along those lines. So it is the actual raw fact.
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  Speaker 3: Ms.
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  Speaker 2: Wallace and Wayne.
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  Speaker 5: You know, as a fan, you know, we sit around
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  Speaker 5: and we debating the barber shops. When we at the house,
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  Speaker 5: we talk about the what if You know, it's always
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  Speaker 5: wonder for the family. How tough for the what ifs?
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  Speaker 5: When you ask yourself, what if he was here? What
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  Speaker 5: if he did this? How how tough for the what
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  Speaker 5: if is for the family.
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  Speaker 4: I can't tell about the family, but I can I
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  Speaker 4: can speak about me.
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  Speaker 1: What if he was here?
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  Speaker 4: Maybe I would strangle him. Maybe I would strangle him
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  Speaker 4: because you know some of the some of his associates,
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  Speaker 4: I still want to strangle them. But you know, there's
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  Speaker 4: a lot of what ifs, and I know he would
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  Speaker 4: be a happy guy. I know I would be a
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  Speaker 4: happy mother because he was a He was a good kid,
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  Speaker 4: he was a nice, nice person. We thought a lot,
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  Speaker 4: you know, but the makeup was so beautiful. There's so
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  Speaker 4: much apologies behind it. And he, you know, his explanation.
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  Speaker 4: He made me understand what he's trying to do, what
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  Speaker 4: he was trying to say. I still can't take the profanity,
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  Speaker 4: still can't. I listen to his music. I listened to
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  Speaker 4: his music, and I said, Jehovah, please help me.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 4: So the what is maybe it would be still fighting,
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  Speaker 4: but it would still be my best friend.
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  Speaker 2: What about you? Wayne?
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  Speaker 1: The what is for me is more. I think that
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  Speaker 1: he would have elevated the culture hip hop and generally
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  Speaker 1: he just had a way of bringing the best out
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  Speaker 1: of people, forcing him to kind of step up just
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  Speaker 1: from a lyrical standpoint musically, and I think given the
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  Speaker 1: dynamics of where we are from a technology standpoint, because
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  Speaker 1: he was so in tune with everything around him and
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  Speaker 1: always ahead of the curve, that he would have been
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  Speaker 1: delving into things that kind of opened himself up to
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  Speaker 1: allow himself to be what these diets have become today,
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  Speaker 1: Like to Jay's and the Puffs. But from his perspective,
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  Speaker 1: in his way, and you know what I'm saying. From
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  Speaker 1: my standpoint, I think that that in itself is the
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  Speaker 1: what if that always haunts.
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  Speaker 6: I love when I hear people with their really good
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  Speaker 6: and find memories, people who knew Biggie and worked with him.
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  Speaker 6: I was just talking to Method Man and he was
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  Speaker 6: talking about how he first got introduced to Biggie and
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  Speaker 6: how they ended up working together and everything. So what
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  Speaker 6: are some of your favorite stories to hear about your son.
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  Speaker 4: There's a variety of them. They're always loving ones, you know,
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  Speaker 4: and they always spoke about his generosity, his kindness, his patience,
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  Speaker 4: and him wanting to help to make everyone better. You know,
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  Speaker 4: he wants everyone to have something. He wasn't the kind
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  Speaker 4: of guy who wants to keep it for himself. He
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  Speaker 4: was a sharer. He likes to share. And the respect
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  Speaker 4: that he had for even the friends, their mothers. You know,
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  Speaker 4: they went all out, you know, Miss Wallace, You know
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  Speaker 4: he did this for me and he did that for
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  Speaker 4: me things that I never knew. Did you know that
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  Speaker 4: he helped me here and he helped me there. I
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  Speaker 4: know it's in his heart. I know that kindness was there,
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  Speaker 4: but I've never experienced it. But knowing he wasn't here,
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  Speaker 4: and to hear them say, oh, miss Wallace, did you
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  Speaker 4: know in that shop he bought me that chair in
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  Speaker 4: the barber shop he bought me that chair?
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  Speaker 1: Wow?
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  Speaker 4: Did you know he paid my rent for two months?
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  Speaker 4: You know that that was very touching? Wow, very very touching.
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  Speaker 5: Wayne, Do you have any stories you can share in
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  Speaker 5: front of Miss Wallace?
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  Speaker 2: Any fun stories?
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  Speaker 1: A lot of story point wise, you can get into, Wow.
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  Speaker 2: You're really thinking of.
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  Speaker 1: Think of something that I could you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, But most of the stories that I have
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  Speaker 1: are generally related to justice humor. But I mean remember
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  Speaker 1: being in a dice game with him one day in
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  Speaker 1: the whole way of Daddy's house, and you know, I
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  Speaker 1: mean there was a bunch of brothers up in there,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, we're not on the snitch game. So
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, he lost, and when
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  Speaker 1: he lost, he was mad. I mean, oh my goodness,
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  Speaker 1: he was so mad. And at the end of the
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  Speaker 1: day he put me up in the corner and say, yo,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, I need to hold something
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  Speaker 1: because I need to come back right. So I told him, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: what do you mean, No, ain't out of one pain?
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  Speaker 1: You ain't. I wasn't paying you. So I game we
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  Speaker 1: needed exactly story. I can't waited. He did not win
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  Speaker 1: and then told me that I still got to give
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  Speaker 1: him some more money so he can go ahead and
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  Speaker 1: eat us bus moves?
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  Speaker 2: Did you get the money back?
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  Speaker 1: He always had this way of bossing up on you.
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  Speaker 1: It's just, you know, Big was a very humorous guy.
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  Speaker 1: But I called him a gentle giant. You know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean? This big heart took care of everybody and
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  Speaker 1: and never ever wave it mm hmm.
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  Speaker 6: It's just he was miss Wallace even before he became
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  Speaker 6: became a rapper. Did all the women love him around
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  Speaker 6: the neighborhood?
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  Speaker 4: Like? Did he always telephone bill? All these what do
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  Speaker 4: you call his honey's honey? So many honeys were calling
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  Speaker 4: that house. I told him, look, honey, you gotta get
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  Speaker 4: your own phone. I mean, every one you could think of.
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  Speaker 4: I could tell you a story. One one morning I
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  Speaker 4: was in my bedroom and I heard someone I told
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  Speaker 4: this story already, and the person said, well, excuse my
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  Speaker 4: languages early in the morning, I am not going to
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  Speaker 4: be your second bitch. Whoa, I'm listening, listening, listening. Then
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  Speaker 4: after she was gone, I said, come here. I heard
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  Speaker 4: the conversation. Second honey, she doesn't know she's about the fifth.
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  Speaker 2: So what do you do after something like that? Miss Wallace?
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  Speaker 2: Do you do you hand them? Because I grew up
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  Speaker 2: Jehovah witness, do you hand him a watch tower? Are
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  Speaker 2: an awake and say? Read this.
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  Speaker 4: All over the house on the sofa, he was on
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  Speaker 4: his floor, he was from the dining room table.
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  Speaker 5: Alf of my mom used to do to me when
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  Speaker 5: I used to get in trouble. It would always be
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  Speaker 5: a watch tower based on whatever the subject was.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Second honey, that's not the second, that's all the fifth.
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  Speaker 2: Wayne.
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  Speaker 5: I got a question, how much of your your love
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  Speaker 5: of hip hop died with Big.
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  Speaker 1: Wow? For honesty?
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  Speaker 4: Uh?
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  Speaker 1: None? Actually what died was big for me was the
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  Speaker 1: purity of hip hop? Right, but he represented as far
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  Speaker 1: as the purity is concerned. But hip hop it's in me,
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  Speaker 1: It's just it's just who I am. It's what you know,
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I grew up in. But in terms
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  Speaker 1: of dying with him is definitely a purity I don't
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  Speaker 1: think that that has been sustained.
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  Speaker 3: You know with some some of the states, you know,
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  Speaker 3: they they are very fickle when they sign off on music.
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  Speaker 3: How are you guys signing off on music? Do you
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  Speaker 3: pretty much say you know what, we allow it? Or
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  Speaker 3: is it like, no, I gotta hear where it's going.
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  Speaker 3: I got to hear the song. I gotta hear what
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  Speaker 3: they're talking about. Like, how do you decide if you're
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  Speaker 3: going to sign off or not? Is it something like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Miss Waller says, no, too much profanity, I'm
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  Speaker 3: not signing off on that.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 1: How does it work? Well, it's two ways. One she
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  Speaker 1: does say that a lot, okay, but it is hip hop,
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  Speaker 1: And you know what I'm saying, you have to make
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  Speaker 1: her understand the business of it. Once you make her
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  Speaker 1: understand the busines of it, then she's okay, I'm okay
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  Speaker 1: with it. You can go ahead and improve it. There's
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  Speaker 1: nothing that's come out in the last twenty three years
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  Speaker 1: that has not been approved by as well. Her is
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  Speaker 1: have touched to everything. Everything has touched her ears. She's
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  Speaker 1: in every element of the business. So from that standpoint,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, I think that it lends
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  Speaker 1: us the opportunity to have the sensibilities to do good business.
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  Speaker 1: So for me, I know what works and what doesn't.
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  Speaker 1: I know what she wouldn't want done and what she
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  Speaker 1: would want done. So there are a lot of records
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  Speaker 1: that came through over the years and it's like absolutely not.
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  Speaker 1: Either the record was straight whack or the business wasn't right.
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  Speaker 1: They was selling something that we knew would be detrimental
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  Speaker 1: to the brand, you know what I mean. So for us,
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  Speaker 1: it's always about the legacy, and it's always about assuring
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  Speaker 1: that we stay true to what he would do closer
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  Speaker 1: as we could.
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  Speaker 4: Gotcha?
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  Speaker 6: Is it hard to watch like the Unsolved stories that
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  Speaker 6: come on and the series and stuff like that that
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  Speaker 6: they've done.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yes, but it's not done yet. We're still fighting,
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  Speaker 4: you know. It's it's still there. You know, we're not
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  Speaker 4: I'm not going to give up. And I'm sure when
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  Speaker 4: when it comes to c J, he wants justice also
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  Speaker 4: and also his daughter team.
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  Speaker 1: How you feel when you watch.
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  Speaker 4: Him Unsolved Mysteries? The thing that, to be honest with you,
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  Speaker 4: I watched it and there's some things that went on.
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  Speaker 4: I knew about it. I told him I wasn't going
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  Speaker 4: to be a part of it, but I watched it
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  Speaker 4: and I'm glad it was out. I am glad because
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  Speaker 4: ninety eight percent of it is a truth.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, that's one of those things that that we
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  Speaker 1: didn't approve of as a matter to be good. But
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  Speaker 1: the way that they went about it was tacky, right.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't come and ask for permission. It just out there,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 1: and I think that was something that was detrimental to
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  Speaker 1: the family at that point. But it did turn out
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  Speaker 1: to be a good show, so it paid off for them,
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  Speaker 1: of course. But at the end of the day, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it is what it is. But that's one of those things.
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  Speaker 1: To the point that you asked, as far as the question.
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  Speaker 3: I've seen something the other days, Follow'm sorry, so.
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  Speaker 4: I said, I lost my train of thought. I lost
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  Speaker 4: my train of thought.
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  Speaker 6: Was it because it envyes Beard?
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  Speaker 2: Stop it?
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  Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I seen something the other day
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  Speaker 3: and it kind of bothered me. It was an apartment
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  Speaker 3: or a condo, or maybe it was a whole they
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  Speaker 3: were selling in New Jersey and they were selling it
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  Speaker 3: based off of big living there.
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  Speaker 1: What's the name of the street.
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  Speaker 3: I don't remember the name of it. But they were
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  Speaker 3: saying this apartment they were selling this was the house
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  Speaker 3: of b I g come by the house and they
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  Speaker 3: were selling it based off of that, And I was like,
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  Speaker 3: is that legal? Can you do that?
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  Speaker 4: It was in it It's very possible. Court, that's what
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  Speaker 4: it was. Yeah, five Ellid Court. Yeah, he knows.
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  Speaker 6: People do that all the time, Like this person used
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  Speaker 6: to live here.
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  Speaker 4: You know. They do the same thing in in in
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  Speaker 4: Brooklyn on same James, the same thing with the Crown.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I saw that that crown did get auctioned off, right.
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  Speaker 1: Supposedly.
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  Speaker 5: How hard is it to heal when when you see
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  Speaker 5: you know, a big, big everywhere, like even this weekend
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  Speaker 5: with the came into the Rock and Roll Hall of
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  Speaker 5: Fame or you know the bio pics that they always
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  Speaker 5: do the documentaries, Like, how hard is it to heal
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  Speaker 5: when when with all of that?
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  Speaker 4: It saddens me every time every time I see things
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  Speaker 4: like that. I mean, I'm going to be watching the
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  Speaker 4: Rock and Roll All of Fame. I've seen you know,
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  Speaker 4: clips of it, and it touched it touched me, you know.
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  Speaker 4: I cried when when I got the rough cut, especially
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  Speaker 4: at the end, I really tears. I was going all
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  Speaker 4: over the place. So every time I see things like that,
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  Speaker 4: it seems like yesterday he was here and I was
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  Speaker 4: talking to him. So it really saddens me. I'm glad
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  Speaker 4: it's out there, and I'm you know, I'm glad everybody's
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  Speaker 4: doing what they're doing. I just want them to do
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  Speaker 4: it fairly, and you know the taste, I'm very I'm
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: saddened by it.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: What about you way, I mean, I've become.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Numb to it, right, that's not good though.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: I mean when I said I've healed, that is what
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, Okay, So I become numb to the nuances
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: of what that represents, right, because it represents something different
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: to me because in where I know where I am,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: and I know that from a healing standpoint, I'm tapped
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: in in a different way. Right, So I'm cool with that.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: I think that the thing that bothers me is the
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: disrespect that comes with it. Right, you got people out
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: here that's promoting parties and doing things along those lines,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: or creating opportunities and campaigns for themselves, but aren't giving
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: back to the foundation, never going back to the kids.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: For me, it's always been about the kids, right and
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Miss Wallace. So from that standpoint, it's like, when you're
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: doing that and that level of disrespect, now, I'm cool.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: I passed on that. So I've kind of detached myself
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: from the emotion so that we can get into the
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: business of it all. And that's when I get on
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: my thing.
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: What happened with that crown getting auctioned up? Where does
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: that money go? I know it was like a photographer
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: or somebody who had.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: It short goes to him. I wish he would do.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: It's something for the foundation.
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: That would make a lot of sense because that ran
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: her a lot.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Well, Baron's a good guy, Baron Clint boy and we
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: do have a great relationship with him, do a lot
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: of business with him, have done a lot of business
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: over the years. I do see him as the kind
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: of brother that will reach out, and he has reached out.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: We just have to talk about what that would look like.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: But I don't want anybody to think for a second
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: that the man is not out there thinking about things
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: from a state standpoint or from the family standpoint, because
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: in the years that I've known him and the years
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: that we've been doing the business with him. He's always
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: been that guy, gotcha.
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: You know when you say that your heal just going
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: back to the healing thing?
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Is healing mean? You know? His his death is something
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: that to accept.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Healing for me is not only accepting you. What I mean,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: healing to me is fortifying oneself. Right at the end
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: of the day, We're all born to die, right, It's
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: about how you live your life that matters, right, And
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: for me, I lived my life upright and on a
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: square surrounded by a circle. So as I'm concerned my
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: inner self, I know how to heal way if that
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: makes sense, right, and inn healing me, I can comfort others,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I've accepted death in
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: a different way because I've dealt with so much death
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: from childhood to manhood. So at the end of the day,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: it's not something that I'm afraid of. It's not something
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: that I'm afraid to discuss. It's not mentally challenging, it's
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: not emotionally challenging. I'm content, I'm balanced in my life.
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: What about you, miss Wilds, Is this something that you've
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: accepted his death?
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: It work hard, and because I know death is final
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: and for him. It's final. I accept it.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: But there are.
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: Little avenues, little crevices and corners of his death that
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: I cannot and I will not accept. And I'm saying
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: that because I'm a true Christian. Because what's right is right,
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: what's fair is fair, murder is wrong, badness is wrong.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: I cannot accept that. Those are things that I know
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: I can't accept. But the fact that he's not here.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: I have accepted that. I was accepted the fact that
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: his children are here. I love them dearly. But the
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: fact that he's not here to see them grow into
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: the woman and the man that they are. It's hard
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: for me to accept what happened to him because they
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: took that away, and that sometimes hurts. So do I
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: accept his death, Yes, I do, But the way it happened. Nah.
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: Do you ever feel like you get signs that he's
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: still watching over you?
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: Oh honey, death is final. He's not watching me. One
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: is watching. I know somebody's watching me, because if he
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: wasn't what and guiding me, I wouldn't be here today.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: But as far as Christopher's concerned, oh honey, he's asleep
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: in death, deep sleep, and I'm looking forward forward just
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: seeing him again in the near future.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: I have either one of you, like seeing him in
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: a dream or.
• 25:22
  Speaker 7: Many times, many times laughing, laughing, laughing, laughing is a
• 25:31
  Speaker 7: little comedic self, and you know, quarreling too.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: H Yeah, I've dreamt him many times.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: What about you, Wayne, I actually speak to him daily.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: I speak to my ancestors a lot, and so doing
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: kind of embraced him into the family in that way.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: So he's a part of my daily conversation.
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: When when when you think about it, Wayne, because you know,
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: whenever you see like when he's birthday comes around, you like, hey,
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: Biggie would have been you know, late forties. Like when
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: you think about it, do you realize how young y'all were.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: You know what's crazy? Yes, I do it kind of.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Twenty five years is a long time, you know what
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm saying, And so much has happened, so
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: much has gone on, you know, so much has been missed,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: so much has been reading, so much. It's just so
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: much about life that happens in that time period that
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: you lose sight of the fact that you're getting over
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: as long as you're staying true to who you are,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: right So with that said absolutely. I look at it
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, wow, I can't believe that. I think
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: at that time I was twenty five.
• 26:49
  Speaker 8: Wow, wow, twenty five, twenty six, Yeah, by then it's
• 26:57
  Speaker 8: crazy and I'm a little older than them.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Did you even understand the magnitude of what y'all was
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: doing back then?
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: I know absolutely not, you know, and and and from
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: my experience in in in the business, looking back, uh,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: it's almost like I I you know how you hat
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: that that that mirror effect where you want to look
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: back at life and see what you would have done
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: different and the reasons why. There's nothing that I would
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: have done different. But knowing what I know now, I
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: understand how much wrong we did because of youth, right,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: we were too young to be able to really really
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: embrace and understand what to do with all that we had.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: The nineties was the greatest moment, you know what I'm
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: saying in my young life. The nineties was it. There
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: has been nothing since that catapulted that energy for me,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: right the youth to they they're different. I respect them
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: for who they are and what they're doing, no different
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: than what we did back in the day. But the
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: nineties was just something different. It was just special.
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: It was That's the most tragic thing about the whole
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: situation when you think about how young Tupac and Big
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: You were, and it was.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Just simple youthful mistakes.
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: Not realizing the power of your tongue, not realizing your influence.
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: You know, just just a little bit of age and
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: experience would would have changed changed the perspective of either
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: one of them.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: And you know another thing too to that point, I mean,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: it's crazy because if you think about it, us being young,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: we had elders, but our elders weren't that much older. Yeah,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: I was blessed to come up on the totally different gene.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Jean Grifflin, you know what I'm saying, Harvey Austin, those
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: are individuals that was managing Teddy and you know what
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm working with him and Rex and in
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: effected at the time. So I was taught by men
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: how to be a man in this business right, And
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: even though I was young, I had the understanding because
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: of what I've seen of what I did not want
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: to do if that made me.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: So one of the things that I think that was
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: always missing for us in our culture is the fact
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: that we didn't have elders on us really really holding
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: us down in a in a vast way. Yes, you
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: had individual pockets of individuals, but you didn't have a
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: group of them, of grown ass men saying hey, slow
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: that down, shorty, this is what you need to be doing.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Pay attention to this, think about this. We didn't have that,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: so we had to learn it on our own. Everything
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: was due experience.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: We look forward to seeing this Saturday on HBO eight PM,
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: the twenty twenty induction of Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: And we appreciate you guys for joining us this morning.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Thank you so much.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: Yes, spread love is the way, indeed.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Indeed always love forever.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much, thank you, thank you so much.
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  Speaker 3: Guys.
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  Speaker 5: My anthing, my