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- 0:03Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguar's football. Good from fifty
- 0:08Speaker 1: seven yard Jock Lambo. It's set the team record for
- 0:12Speaker 1: conspecutive field goal. It is Thursday, October third, This is
- 0:22Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour. And now a guy who was recently
- 0:28Speaker 1: traded but just won't leave. Jay Peace, the coach still works.
- 0:36Speaker 1: You were traded, check still clears. Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour,
- 0:41Speaker 1: j P. Shadrick Tony was SELLI in the flesh. Thursday
- 0:46Speaker 1: that off Seattle is a long way from Jackson. You're
- 0:48Speaker 1: not doing Thursday that football, Jeff log him in out
- 0:51Speaker 1: this week. You're in glad to have you Leon Sarcy
- 0:53Speaker 1: with us as always. What's glad to be here. Always
- 0:56Speaker 1: feel very protected at this table today with you two
- 0:59Speaker 1: guys here. Get the books. Yeah that's what happened. Sorry, Yeah,
- 1:06Speaker 1: that's my bad planning to get to on the show today.
- 1:08Speaker 1: Of course, the Panthers Jaguars preview that will come up
- 1:11Speaker 1: Sunday one o'clock to kick off time Bank of American
- 1:14Speaker 1: Stadium in Charlotte, North Carolina. The teams are eerily similar
- 1:19Speaker 1: coming in containing McCaffrey huge key to the game. Of course,
- 1:23Speaker 1: can you contain him down. Minshumania continues for the Jaguars offense.
- 1:31Speaker 1: We'll see if Leonard for Net can keep it up
- 1:32Speaker 1: as well, and we'll go around the FC South and
- 1:35Speaker 1: the National Football Leage will pick Thursday Night football coming
- 1:37Speaker 1: up as well, a game that you're not doing tonight,
- 1:41Speaker 1: so you can will you always pick it anyway, but
- 1:44Speaker 1: you don't know who just not there. That's okay, Um,
- 1:48Speaker 1: this is these teams are really close to the same
- 1:52Speaker 1: right now. The quarterback got hurt, backup comes in. They've
- 1:55Speaker 1: won two in a row. The running games there all
- 1:58Speaker 1: of a sudden for the Jags obviously. The defense is
- 2:00Speaker 1: good for both sides. They can get after the quarterback
- 2:03Speaker 1: when they when they need to. Um, they're they're kind
- 2:06Speaker 1: of set up similar coming in. Well, I mean, you
- 2:08Speaker 1: look at Carolina there top five defense right now. The
- 2:12Speaker 1: Jaguars defense is in the bottom right in the middle
- 2:15Speaker 1: basically than Panthers are number one in sacks. They have
- 2:19Speaker 1: eighteen sacks time for the league. They lead the league
- 2:21Speaker 1: in quarterback hits to Their running game has been going
- 2:23Speaker 1: pretty much all year because the Christian McCaffrey has been
- 2:26Speaker 1: going all here. Their offense goes through McCaffrey. I mean,
- 2:28Speaker 1: just follow him around. It's like it ruinds me a
- 2:30Speaker 1: Pop Warner Leon. I mean, you know one guy on
- 2:32Speaker 1: Pop Warner you always get the ball. Just follow him
- 2:36Speaker 1: around and that's who's gonna that's where the ball is
- 2:38Speaker 1: gonna be. Um. But yeah, backup quarterbacks run game. Yeah,
- 2:42Speaker 1: it's similar in a lot of areas. Yeah, it is,
- 2:45Speaker 1: especially at the quarterback play. Two young quarterbacks taking care
- 2:48Speaker 1: of the football. You've got Alan, he's got in two games,
- 2:51Speaker 1: You've got four touchdowns, knowing the steps has got one
- 2:53Speaker 1: one eight team QB al right now taking care of
- 2:55Speaker 1: for Misshoe he's got what five touchdowns and that one
- 2:58Speaker 1: exception one and say really and he so essentially he's
- 3:01Speaker 1: been taking care of the football as well. Defensively, they
- 3:05Speaker 1: both of the teams get off the quarterback. We at
- 3:07Speaker 1: Thursday night game, we had nine sacks against the Tennessee Titans.
- 3:10Speaker 1: I mean they had six sacks. And the team that
- 3:12Speaker 1: they played together, think it was the Arizona Cardinal was
- 3:13Speaker 1: where they had six sacks. So plus they lead the
- 3:15Speaker 1: NFL and quarterback hits and they got eighteen sacks. Our
- 3:18Speaker 1: defense has been stunning, So this is like you know what,
- 3:20Speaker 1: it's a mirror image of each other in this game.
- 3:22Speaker 1: It's a marriage and franchises just both both what twenty
- 3:25Speaker 1: five years and both franchises right now, So I mean
- 3:28Speaker 1: it's gonna be. And then they're also they've got something
- 3:30Speaker 1: going on because this is really there. They've been on
- 3:32Speaker 1: the road back to bat so now this is their
- 3:34Speaker 1: home game and they're inducting three, I think three or
- 3:37Speaker 1: four guys into the Ring of Honor. So it's gonna be.
- 3:39Speaker 1: It's gonna be a lot of noise up in Carolina
- 3:41Speaker 1: to come Sunday. Well, they already lost two at home.
- 3:43Speaker 1: I mean they opened the season two straight home games.
- 3:46Speaker 1: They lost both. I did the Tampa game Thursday night
- 3:48Speaker 1: there in Charlotte, and uh lost the bad game to Tampa.
- 3:52Speaker 1: They were it was Cam Newton's last game before they
- 3:56Speaker 1: shoved them because he was hurt. Anyway, Oh my gosh,
- 3:58Speaker 1: it was he just didn't look right. You watched the
- 4:00Speaker 1: tape the first two weeks of that Carolina team, and
- 4:02Speaker 1: Cam was not camp. He had negative yards rushing, was
- 4:07Speaker 1: widely inaccurate. Was just he was a shell of himself
- 4:11Speaker 1: and it was all Christie McCaffrey and but they didn't
- 4:14Speaker 1: have the passing game to complement it. Kyle comes in.
- 4:16Speaker 1: They're better football team with Kyle Owen. Hence the two
- 4:18Speaker 1: wins in a row, because defensively they've been pretty good
- 4:21Speaker 1: all year. I think it's a huge test. It's a
- 4:23Speaker 1: huge test from standpoint. This is a This is probably
- 4:28Speaker 1: the best defensive offenses faced. As far as their front seven.
- 4:31Speaker 1: They have two great linebackers and Shack Thompson and Luke
- 4:34Speaker 1: Keikley Uh and they want they really run well. They're
- 4:38Speaker 1: beat up in the secondary a little bit. They got
- 4:40Speaker 1: a backup corner and Ross cockroll playing much like jacksonvill
- 4:43Speaker 1: is probably gonna be starting tray hearning again because you
- 4:45Speaker 1: know back to back days that Jalen has not been
- 4:48Speaker 1: out there on the football field so um. But offensively,
- 4:53Speaker 1: it's all about mins humania right now. But I still
- 4:56Speaker 1: think the game game is won or loss on the
- 5:00Speaker 1: acts of the offensive line in Leonard. For this team
- 5:03Speaker 1: is at its best when it can run the ball,
- 5:06Speaker 1: and that's how they're built. And yes, Minshew allows you
- 5:09Speaker 1: to open up and do more things, and he's more
- 5:11Speaker 1: accurate and he's very good uh in the pocket and
- 5:14Speaker 1: does some really good things. But you look at the
- 5:16Speaker 1: second half of that Denver game, the change was the
- 5:18Speaker 1: fact that they ran the ball that they actually ran,
- 5:22Speaker 1: That's what Because what else it did is it kept
- 5:26Speaker 1: a defense on the sideline. And if you look at it,
- 5:29Speaker 1: the defense struggles on Sunday stopping the Broncos. Yeah, I mean, yeah,
- 5:33Speaker 1: you're right, absolutely, as as a researcher on the offensive line.
- 5:37Speaker 1: And I don't know what they did that week, whatever
- 5:38Speaker 1: they went to a restaurant, whether the food they ate
- 5:41Speaker 1: or whatever they congregated together, whatever they did last week,
- 5:45Speaker 1: they need another thought of that this week because as
- 5:47Speaker 1: good as the Carolina Panthers defense is getting after the
- 5:50Speaker 1: pastor in total defense, they had to bottom of the
- 5:53Speaker 1: of the of the of the NFL when it comes
- 5:55Speaker 1: to stopping the run. So it plays right into our hands.
- 5:58Speaker 1: And the fact that we ran for two sixty nine
- 6:01Speaker 1: yards last week against the Broncos. So that offensive line,
- 6:04Speaker 1: you know, if they want to win this game, is
- 6:06Speaker 1: gonna be one up front. Yeah, just to talk a
- 6:08Speaker 1: little bit about with Liam's talking about yeah into the
- 6:10Speaker 1: microphone police, thank you if this is the first I've
- 6:13Speaker 1: ever done this, So um, they're giving up a hundred
- 6:17Speaker 1: and eight yards on the ground per game. Excuse me,
- 6:21Speaker 1: that's the wrong. One hundred thirty on the ground. Leon's
- 6:25Speaker 1: in the league defensively and so but they're outstanding against
- 6:29Speaker 1: the past, one of the best in the NFL that
- 6:31Speaker 1: they are the best in the NFL. So right, and
- 6:36Speaker 1: it feeds exactly what we want to do, uh, is
- 6:40Speaker 1: run the ball. Because when this team runs the ball
- 6:41Speaker 1: and Leonard for that, it's not just the offensive line. Land.
- 6:44Speaker 1: I don't know if what you thought about watching the game,
- 6:47Speaker 1: but I thought it was the most decisive I've seen
- 6:49Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette run the ball. He made he wasn't pitter pattering,
- 6:53Speaker 1: He put his foot in the ground. He got north
- 6:54Speaker 1: this outh and he played like the power back that
- 6:56Speaker 1: he is. And because of that, the Broncos didn't to
- 7:00Speaker 1: tackle that at the end of the game. You gonna
- 7:01Speaker 1: watch that tape. They wanted no peace between the seven
- 7:03Speaker 1: at the end of the game. The way he was
- 7:04Speaker 1: running the ball, he looked like a different guy. Yeah,
- 7:07Speaker 1: And trust me, it's nothing more demoralizing to a defensive
- 7:10Speaker 1: a defense is that when you're going to run the
- 7:12Speaker 1: ball and they know you're going to run the ball,
- 7:14Speaker 1: and they can't do nothing about it. And that's what
- 7:16Speaker 1: that's how offense did. Later in that game, we ran
- 7:19Speaker 1: the ball with Leonard and the Broncos knew we want
- 7:21Speaker 1: to run the ball, and they had absolutely no answer
- 7:23Speaker 1: for it. And there's nothing more fun as an offensive
- 7:25Speaker 1: linement running the ball when you know they can't stop you.
- 7:28Speaker 1: They're on skates. Well, you're just leaning on him and
- 7:31Speaker 1: you you you sense that you've taken their will from them,
- 7:35Speaker 1: and you just look across the line of scrimmage. There's
- 7:37Speaker 1: a couple things that are happening there. One, you know,
- 7:39Speaker 1: you're not in third long, so you're not doing the
- 7:41Speaker 1: hardest thing possible as an offensive line, which is walking
- 7:44Speaker 1: uh deep drops along down the field patterns, and you're
- 7:47Speaker 1: getting on the line of scrimmage and you're looking across
- 7:50Speaker 1: at the defensive guys and they have no hope. They
- 7:53Speaker 1: know they can't stop you, and you're just going downhill
- 7:55Speaker 1: on them all day. So that in the locker room today,
- 7:59Speaker 1: spoke through the media as he always does on Thursdays,
- 8:02Speaker 1: and what happened from the first half of the second
- 8:05Speaker 1: half this um, this offense started to run the ball.
- 8:08Speaker 1: They dedicated themselves to it. Here's Leonard's not that you know,
- 8:12Speaker 1: I told him, like walking in at the time, I'm like, man,
- 8:14Speaker 1: just giving the ball, you know. My coach told me
- 8:18Speaker 1: what I had full I was afing the full yards
- 8:19Speaker 1: of carrier and uh. But you can tell that it
- 8:22Speaker 1: was getting a little tired, you know, coming in to
- 8:25Speaker 1: half time, you know, and uh, trying to get my
- 8:28Speaker 1: team that spart, you know, the leader that I am
- 8:30Speaker 1: keeping focused. Yeah, So there you have it. I mean,
- 8:33Speaker 1: they were running, like you said, they weren't running a lot,
- 8:35Speaker 1: but it was still pretty effective the times they did
- 8:38Speaker 1: run it on average just wasn't excuse me, there wasn't
- 8:42Speaker 1: much of a rhythm in the first half, and so
- 8:45Speaker 1: they did have some nice spurts of the run game
- 8:48Speaker 1: that they just they weren't on the field as much
- 8:50Speaker 1: and it just felt like they got behind the sticks
- 8:53Speaker 1: with penalties and mistakes and so they couldn't They never
- 8:56Speaker 1: gotten that rhythm as an offense. And they had the
- 8:59Speaker 1: big penalty before the UH in the first half. Tick
- 9:01Speaker 1: took seven off the board. They had to set up
- 9:02Speaker 1: for three UH. And we talked about it in the
- 9:05Speaker 1: radio booth that and we said it right at the
- 9:09Speaker 1: kickoff that if this team wanted to win that they
- 9:12Speaker 1: had to run it, run it, run it, and that
- 9:14Speaker 1: was going to be the difference of the game. And
- 9:16Speaker 1: that's what they came out and did. But yeah, that
- 9:17Speaker 1: takes I mean for a play caller down two scores
- 9:21Speaker 1: in the second half of a football game, but takes
- 9:24Speaker 1: some guts to call a run all the time, right,
- 9:26Speaker 1: if it doesn't work, you're in trouble. Yeah, well it
- 9:29Speaker 1: does take some guess what offers a coordinator to stick
- 9:31Speaker 1: with the run? I mean, they won't even go down
- 9:33Speaker 1: by eleven, so there's no reason to abandon the run.
- 9:35Speaker 1: So you had to completely had to compliment the pass
- 9:38Speaker 1: because if you become a one dimensional end and that
- 9:41Speaker 1: stayed in with those pass rushers, then you're putting the
- 9:44Speaker 1: tackles at a disadvantage. So exactly, so you got to
- 9:49Speaker 1: implement the run game and that's De Filippo did an
- 9:52Speaker 1: outstanding job with that. So a little Armstead in the
- 9:54Speaker 1: game to Armstead, I was glad. I mean, you know
- 9:59Speaker 1: a lot of people do ask, why no Armstead? What's
- 10:01Speaker 1: you know, what's the reason of giving Leonard for net
- 10:04Speaker 1: all of the reps When you look at the Tennessee game.
- 10:07Speaker 1: He only had five carries in the first half Leonard
- 10:09Speaker 1: for that. And so you know, if you're Terry Robiskie,
- 10:12Speaker 1: the running back coach for the Jaguars, You're not gonna
- 10:14Speaker 1: sit there and say I'm taking out our starter when
- 10:16Speaker 1: he's not tired. And so it's gonna take It's a
- 10:20Speaker 1: volume by four Nette for Armstead to get in the
- 10:23Speaker 1: ball game and some long runs. That's what happened. I've
- 10:26Speaker 1: liked that Armstead run the ball, has run the ball
- 10:28Speaker 1: since the preseason. I think he's a very decisive north
- 10:31Speaker 1: south runner. Um. I think he's a great complimentary back
- 10:35Speaker 1: to Leonard four net. I think he has good vision.
- 10:37Speaker 1: He uh can cut up in the hole. And I
- 10:40Speaker 1: thought he ran the ball very well. Uh just very
- 10:43Speaker 1: I mean different, different style, but that not the exact success,
- 10:47Speaker 1: but not a lot of success like Leonard for Net,
- 10:49Speaker 1: because the season goes on though the wear and tear.
- 10:52Speaker 1: I mean, Leonard has been healthy so far, but he
- 10:54Speaker 1: has a track record of not being able to play
- 10:56Speaker 1: sixteen games that changes. That's that would be the whole stuff.
- 11:00Speaker 1: But if not last game too, So it's a lot
- 11:03Speaker 1: of he's allowed to carry. So he'll probably get another
- 11:06Speaker 1: third and see how his body handles. And he's been
- 11:08Speaker 1: playing i mean pretty much every snap of the year
- 11:10Speaker 1: until this past game. So at some point you need
- 11:13Speaker 1: a complimentary back at some point down this season here,
- 11:15Speaker 1: I think we knew that. I mean, you knew he
- 11:17Speaker 1: wasn't couldn't carry the load. It sounds like he wants.
- 11:21Speaker 1: You want to be a star in the league, You're
- 11:22Speaker 1: gonna play football, you know. The other side of that
- 11:24Speaker 1: is the Carolina Panthers. Christian McCaffrey plays about of the snaps.
- 11:29Speaker 1: He's missed four snaps all year. All year, I mean,
- 11:32Speaker 1: he plays every snap. He's on the field every play.
- 11:35Speaker 1: I mean, and the guy is getting a bunch of touches.
- 11:39Speaker 1: Um he catches the ball out of the backfield. I mean,
- 11:42Speaker 1: he is an all around guy as far as an
- 11:45Speaker 1: offensive weapon, and he doesn't come out the field. It
- 11:47Speaker 1: goes back to the popper order example. I mean, here's
- 11:49Speaker 1: the guy, here's their best player. They're best player on
- 11:53Speaker 1: offense is Christian McCaffrey. He's not coming out of the field,
- 11:55Speaker 1: and he's getting the ball between runs and catches. He's
- 11:59Speaker 1: gonna have third plus touches. He's forty five percent of
- 12:03Speaker 1: the yardage the Panthers have game this year. Wow, the
- 12:06Speaker 1: offense goes where he goes. They don't go without him
- 12:09Speaker 1: anywhere anywhere. They go back to the sideline three and
- 12:11Speaker 1: out if he's not out out there and doing his thing.
- 12:13Speaker 1: So other you have it. Are the Jags Panthers coming up.
- 12:17Speaker 1: We'll come back in this moment. We've got a little
- 12:19Speaker 1: more on Carolina Jaguars defense talk. We'll get into minshu
- 12:22Speaker 1: Mani a little bit. Well. I think let's talk about
- 12:23Speaker 1: how how do you contains McCaffrey, because I think that's
- 12:28Speaker 1: the key. That's huge if you're looking at one defensive
- 12:31Speaker 1: key to this game is and it's not just saying
- 12:33Speaker 1: stop the run because he's dangerous out of the backfield
- 12:36Speaker 1: as well as a pass catcher, is how do you
- 12:38Speaker 1: slow down twenty two. We'll see what they can. We'll
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- 16:17Speaker 1: He almost wanted to put like a corner off you
- 16:20Speaker 1: know when you when you look at him, because you know,
- 16:22Speaker 1: what's unique about him is that you know, not only
- 16:25Speaker 1: he's is he outstanding with the rout tree out of
- 16:27Speaker 1: the backfield, but he's also standing with the rout tree
- 16:30Speaker 1: out of you know, lined up as a receiver. So
- 16:33Speaker 1: you know, he's a he's a very very talented player. Um,
- 16:36Speaker 1: you know, really can do a lot of things. Uh,
- 16:39Speaker 1: They're gonna find ways to get him the football. We
- 16:42Speaker 1: understand that. And we just have to make sure that
- 16:44Speaker 1: we have a lot of people around them because you know,
- 16:46Speaker 1: he's very difficult to bring down if their space. One
- 16:49Speaker 1: on one coach Jack Marone discussing Christian McCaffrey running back
- 16:55Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers, Welcome back, Jaguars, Happy ur j P. Shaddick,
- 16:59Speaker 1: Tony was Ellie and for Jeff Flagging and Leon Searchy
- 17:02Speaker 1: with US eats and every week Jags Panthers coming up
- 17:06Speaker 1: Sunday at one o'clock. Yes, you look at the numbers, Yeah, yeah,
- 17:11Speaker 1: you look at the numbers. And Doug was just talking
- 17:13Speaker 1: about is McCaffrey leads to their team in rushing for
- 17:18Speaker 1: the league four to eleven yards four point eight yards
- 17:21Speaker 1: and carry eight six rushing attempts four touchdowns. He also
- 17:26Speaker 1: leads their team in receptions with He does not have
- 17:30Speaker 1: the most yards, but he has the most receptions averaging
- 17:35Speaker 1: eight point seven. So he is touching the ball. He
- 17:37Speaker 1: has touched the ball a hundred eleven times this year
- 17:40Speaker 1: for them through four games. That's just touches the game. Now,
- 17:48Speaker 1: I might be telling my age a little bit, but
- 17:50Speaker 1: he reminds me of a guy that I played against
- 17:52Speaker 1: back in the day, Eric mccalfmember, Eric mccalth better running
- 17:56Speaker 1: back than Yeah, that's what he reminds me of. Eric
- 18:00Speaker 1: mccal With the Cleveland Browns, they utilize him the same way,
- 18:03Speaker 1: all the back through you know, a little wheel routes,
- 18:06Speaker 1: so you know, screenplays and all that kind of stuff.
- 18:08Speaker 1: This is the same thing they do Carolina does with him.
- 18:10Speaker 1: He might be he might be a little bit. He
- 18:12Speaker 1: might be a little bit more dynamic and Eric metcal
- 18:14Speaker 1: his ability to break tackles and get run between the tackles.
- 18:17Speaker 1: But that's what he reminds me of. And the Jaguas,
- 18:20Speaker 1: I mean, they've got to have definitely have a game
- 18:22Speaker 1: plan for him, or he could definitely put some points in.
- 18:25Speaker 1: When you look at it, I mean him coming coming
- 18:27Speaker 1: out of college at the Stanford, the knock on Christian
- 18:30Speaker 1: McCaffrey because of his size, he's you know, about twound pounds,
- 18:33Speaker 1: and they thought he was too slight to run between
- 18:35Speaker 1: the tackles, that he'd be just a third down back.
- 18:37Speaker 1: He is an outstanding running back between the tackles. This
- 18:41Speaker 1: is just not a space back who you have to
- 18:43Speaker 1: get outside. He runs the inside zone. He'll cut it
- 18:45Speaker 1: back in between the tackles. He'll finish with power. He'll
- 18:49Speaker 1: run through arm tackles. He's very dynamic. And so how
- 18:52Speaker 1: do you stop a guy like this, Because it's not
- 18:54Speaker 1: just the catches out of the backfield. They'll wind him
- 18:57Speaker 1: up as a wide receiver and they did it at Stanford,
- 19:01Speaker 1: and he plays wide receiver like a wide receiver, not
- 19:04Speaker 1: a running back. He can run all the routes. And
- 19:07Speaker 1: so the best way to make him ineffective though, is
- 19:10Speaker 1: still stopping the run game, because that's what he is. First.
- 19:13Speaker 1: If he gets it going on the ground, it makes
- 19:15Speaker 1: everything else more dangerous around him. As far as a
- 19:19Speaker 1: pass catcher and so it comes back. I mean it's
- 19:21Speaker 1: defensive one on one, you gotta stop the run, and
- 19:25Speaker 1: this week it's one guy. It's not running back by committee.
- 19:28Speaker 1: He's like, is you know Todd wash and this defensive
- 19:32Speaker 1: staff and these defensive players of the I D number
- 19:34Speaker 1: twenty two and say he is not going to get
- 19:36Speaker 1: it going in the run game. And then when you
- 19:39Speaker 1: then you have a plan for him when he lines
- 19:40Speaker 1: up a wide receiver, because I don't think you want
- 19:44Speaker 1: to go line up a linebacker against him and man coverage. Now,
- 19:47Speaker 1: if you're playing zone, that's fine, but I don't like
- 19:51Speaker 1: the matchup of Quincy Williams or Miles Jack one on
- 19:56Speaker 1: one and man coverage on Christian McCaffrey. You have to
- 19:58Speaker 1: put a safety on I think he I don't think
- 20:02Speaker 1: the linebackers can keep up with him. You can put
- 20:04Speaker 1: even a nickel on him. That's how good. Yeah, And
- 20:06Speaker 1: the defensive got tackled well too, because in space, I
- 20:09Speaker 1: mean he gets a lot of a lot of his
- 20:10Speaker 1: jabs in space when you missed tackles on them. So
- 20:12Speaker 1: the defensive gott to wrap up well this week against him,
- 20:15Speaker 1: because he'll make you miss an open space that's it, man.
- 20:19Speaker 1: I mean, that's all you gotta do against this guy
- 20:25Speaker 1: in the world. The other thing is that hitting the
- 20:26Speaker 1: quarterbacks a good thing. So that's the other part of
- 20:30Speaker 1: this thing. Kyle Allen. Uh, you know, the last two games,
- 20:34Speaker 1: he's won two games for him. I just had help
- 20:36Speaker 1: from McCaffrey do it all that. But how has Allen
- 20:38Speaker 1: played well? Sir said it. He was right. He's been
- 20:42Speaker 1: efficient in the passing game four touchdowns, no interceptions, but
- 20:45Speaker 1: his ball security in the pocket last week was atrocious.
- 20:48Speaker 1: He fumbled at three times, lost all three fumbles. The
- 20:50Speaker 1: game would not have been as close with the Texans
- 20:53Speaker 1: if he didn't do that. And so if you get
- 20:56Speaker 1: to him, he holds the ball a little bit loose.
- 20:58Speaker 1: I think you can have some opportunities in the knockna free.
- 21:00Speaker 1: The Texans did it by getting to him and hitting
- 21:03Speaker 1: him around a little bit. But you know what you
- 21:06Speaker 1: see from his ability to make decisions and not throw
- 21:10Speaker 1: the ball into harm's way and very accurate. He gets
- 21:14Speaker 1: it out on time more times than not. He was outstanding.
- 21:17Speaker 1: It's Arizona. I mean, you can see the numbers if
- 21:19Speaker 1: you're watching on Facebook Live. You know n four touchdowns.
- 21:24Speaker 1: You know, high percentage of completions, very accurate and uh
- 21:28Speaker 1: it's you know North Turner, the long time football coach,
- 21:32Speaker 1: been a head coaching offensive coordinator, coach Super Bowl teams
- 21:35Speaker 1: and Dallas as a coordinator is you know, it's a
- 21:39Speaker 1: West Coast type of offense. Get the ball the quarterback's
- 21:42Speaker 1: hand quickly, efficient. They weren't doing that. They weren't doing
- 21:45Speaker 1: that with Cam Newton. With Kyle Allen, he throws it
- 21:49Speaker 1: on time and he's much more accurate and gets the
- 21:52Speaker 1: ball into his playmaker's hands. He's been very good the
- 21:55Speaker 1: first two weeks outside of the fumbles. So the kim
- 22:00Speaker 1: is a totally different field. And look when he's in there, Well,
- 22:03Speaker 1: Cam is not healthy. I mean, this kid is healthy.
- 22:05Speaker 1: I mean, like like Tony, you talked about it in
- 22:07Speaker 1: the north turn of the West Coast offense. It's all
- 22:09Speaker 1: about efficienc in getting rid of the football and taking
- 22:12Speaker 1: care of the football. What you didn't do well, which
- 22:14Speaker 1: my play to our advantage this game. If we can
- 22:16Speaker 1: get up the field and get some strip sacks on us,
- 22:18Speaker 1: you know, if he's not, if he's not taking care
- 22:20Speaker 1: of the football as well. So I mean I might
- 22:22Speaker 1: play to our advantage. But the kid's been doing so
- 22:25Speaker 1: good so far, and the last two games he's got
- 22:26Speaker 1: over four yards knowing the steps, just got a couple
- 22:29Speaker 1: of turnovers. But you know, we gotta get after him.
- 22:31Speaker 1: But to your point JP about Cam Newton, cam Newton
- 22:35Speaker 1: is only effective. He can be Cam Newton the physical
- 22:37Speaker 1: football player. He's gonna be able to run. I don't
- 22:40Speaker 1: think Cam Newton can play the game from the pocket
- 22:44Speaker 1: like a traditional He's never been that. He wasn't not
- 22:48Speaker 1: in college. He's a freakish athlete. Um. And with the
- 22:52Speaker 1: foot sprain, I actually personally think, you know he's vegan
- 22:55Speaker 1: now lost some weight. We can all get that all,
- 22:59Speaker 1: you know. I mean, there's an article. There's a big article.
- 23:04Speaker 1: This is a big article in the Charlotte Observer about
- 23:07Speaker 1: him being vegan and how the body doesn't he loves
- 23:09Speaker 1: well because of the lack of protein. I'm not a
- 23:12Speaker 1: dietitian and all the people who are vegan are yelling
- 23:14Speaker 1: at me right now. Um, but he doesn't look the
- 23:17Speaker 1: same like even like body type. He looks slighter. Um,
- 23:21Speaker 1: he's injured, and so Cam Newton for them to play
- 23:25Speaker 1: the type of football with him, he has to be
- 23:26Speaker 1: a physical presence, and he wasn't. I think they're better
- 23:29Speaker 1: with Kyle Allen. If you're gonna play this traditional sit
- 23:31Speaker 1: in the pocket, be efficient, be accurate, and uh, let
- 23:36Speaker 1: the offense run through your playmakers instead of running through
- 23:40Speaker 1: Cam Newton quarterback. That's gonna be an interesting That's the
- 23:42Speaker 1: same topic that we hope happens here. You hope this
- 23:45Speaker 1: team plays well and then you have the quarterback question
- 23:48Speaker 1: when everybody's healthy again. But Caroline is a little different
- 23:50Speaker 1: because it's been Cam's team for eight years or whatever
- 23:54Speaker 1: long he's been in the league. Now, well he's he's
- 23:57Speaker 1: the franchise guy. It's not it's different in the sense of,
- 24:00Speaker 1: you know, Nick Foles just got here. The organization paid
- 24:03Speaker 1: him a ton of money. But miss you just got
- 24:05Speaker 1: here too, That what I'm saying. And so you know,
- 24:08Speaker 1: there's eleven plays of the Nick Foles era and the
- 24:13Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars history. There's eight or nine years of Cam Newton,
- 24:16Speaker 1: the super Bowl, the face of that franchise. It's gonna
- 24:20Speaker 1: bet it's gonna be interesting. I mean, we'll see. You know,
- 24:24Speaker 1: he's not playing us this week, so we don't care.
- 24:26Speaker 1: But it'll be interesting to follow from a distance what
- 24:28Speaker 1: they do with Cam Newton and how long that injury
- 24:31Speaker 1: takes from the hell yeah, and and and here's the thing.
- 24:33Speaker 1: If Cam Newton is the franchise quarterback for the future. Uh,
- 24:38Speaker 1: sometimes as football players, you gotta protect us for ourselves.
- 24:42Speaker 1: And Cam's injury may take a little healer. Let the
- 24:45Speaker 1: young kid, if the young kids beneficient taking care of football,
- 24:49Speaker 1: and it's when you're a couple of games, let Cam
- 24:51Speaker 1: get that rest that he needs a rest, because if
- 24:52Speaker 1: you were rushing back and he comes back and he
- 24:54Speaker 1: re injures himself, then you know you don't want that,
- 24:57Speaker 1: especially if he's your franchise quarterback moving forward. We got
- 25:01Speaker 1: a touch on the jail. Ramsey think he's on the
- 25:02Speaker 1: injury port today. Did not practice again today with the
- 25:06Speaker 1: back issue, and Doug Maron said earlier this week it
- 25:09Speaker 1: was gonna be a day to day to see if
- 25:11Speaker 1: he's ready to go on Sunday. But as it would
- 25:14Speaker 1: stand right now, I don't think he's gonna go on Sunday.
- 25:16Speaker 1: It just hasn't been on the practice field yet this week. Well,
- 25:18Speaker 1: he hasn't been on the price for two weeks now.
- 25:22Speaker 1: Here's back I mean it, well, what are you gonna say?
- 25:26Speaker 1: I mean, there's nothing for us to say. He's not playing,
- 25:30Speaker 1: and all we know is that it's because of the back.
- 25:33Speaker 1: We don't know how the severity of it. We don't know. Uh,
- 25:38Speaker 1: you know what is the real issue with the back?
- 25:41Speaker 1: You know? Is it just muscle? Is there this? I mean,
- 25:43Speaker 1: we we have no idea, So to even speculate how
- 25:46Speaker 1: long this is gonna take is pointless in my opinion
- 25:50Speaker 1: and the way I look at it. He's not playing
- 25:53Speaker 1: this week, but I've seen that one. I would just
- 25:55Speaker 1: roll with Tray Herndon, go out and play. You played
- 25:59Speaker 1: with That's why they're playing. You know, you know you can't.
- 26:03Speaker 1: I mean, if the back is first of all, back,
- 26:05Speaker 1: it's hard to diagnose. You don't know what it is
- 26:06Speaker 1: lower limb. I don't know the specifics, doctor Cercy. But
- 26:11Speaker 1: there's so many factories. They into the back, you know,
- 26:14Speaker 1: the muscle, they help the glute. I don't know whether well, yeah,
- 26:18Speaker 1: my back has been hurt, hurt for eleven years. I
- 26:21Speaker 1: had a backfoot eleven years. I'm just saying it is
- 26:25Speaker 1: what it is. Yeah, Yeah, you can only put you
- 26:27Speaker 1: can only go with the gas playing. Yeah, that's right,
- 26:30Speaker 1: But how do you get a herd and coached up
- 26:31Speaker 1: and going how how you know it seemed like they
- 26:34Speaker 1: were picking on a little bit last week. Yeah, I
- 26:36Speaker 1: mean he had a couple of days. Yeah, I mean,
- 26:38Speaker 1: I think it's fair, and I think it's always dangerous
- 26:42Speaker 1: for us to make assumptions exactly who's at fault, because especially,
- 26:48Speaker 1: you know, because we don't know the coverages. Like I thought,
- 26:51Speaker 1: on one of the touchdowns, he's playing outside leverage, it's
- 26:54Speaker 1: a in cutting slant. It almost looks like he's expecting
- 26:57Speaker 1: underneath help. It's not there. They you know, another time
- 27:02Speaker 1: it looked like he was clearly him. You know, obviously
- 27:05Speaker 1: the one on one that was a great move by
- 27:07Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sanders and by the way, Joe Flack who had
- 27:09Speaker 1: six seconds back, there was a long developing route. And
- 27:12Speaker 1: so you know, the thing that we do in the
- 27:17Speaker 1: media and the fans, we assume that Jalen Ramsey is
- 27:21Speaker 1: gonna make those plays that like it's all Trey Herndon. Well,
- 27:26Speaker 1: I'll just remind everyone. On Thursday night, on a couple
- 27:30Speaker 1: of drives, it wasn't like Mariotta was shying away from
- 27:34Speaker 1: Jalen side of the field. They went right at him,
- 27:38Speaker 1: and Corey Davis was making play and and so I'm
- 27:42Speaker 1: not like, obviously, I think Jalen is a better player
- 27:44Speaker 1: than Trey Herndon, and that's why he was starting. We
- 27:47Speaker 1: want Jalen out there. I just think it's unfair to
- 27:50Speaker 1: make the assumption, Oh, well, Janalen would have made all
- 27:53Speaker 1: those plays. Well, let's figure out what the coverage is,
- 27:57Speaker 1: and that's accurate. But if Herndon's over there, roll the safety,
- 28:03Speaker 1: I'm just being rolled the same thing. He's gonna need
- 28:05Speaker 1: some help. I'm not disagree with you, you know what
- 28:07Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, I know we as so like all
- 28:09Speaker 1: of a sudden, Yeah we don't know that, we don't
- 28:10Speaker 1: know the coverage and was gonna make all those exactly. Yeah,
- 28:13Speaker 1: I agree with you. I agree with you. But you
- 28:15Speaker 1: know they're going to pick on the way. They know
- 28:17Speaker 1: that Ramsey's not there, so her and this guy to
- 28:19Speaker 1: expect that. So at some particular point in the defense,
- 28:22Speaker 1: you don't have to roll the coverage over there to
- 28:24Speaker 1: help him. And then boy, he's got you know, be
- 28:26Speaker 1: the man on his side and then get her in
- 28:28Speaker 1: a little bit of help on his side and just
- 28:29Speaker 1: or just play more his own. Oh yeah, you're gonna
- 28:31Speaker 1: play me. You gonna play more his own. We got
- 28:36Speaker 1: all figured out that. I knew the coaches would figure
- 28:38Speaker 1: it out. Leon and I and the booth we got
- 28:40Speaker 1: we'll get him right. We're figuring it out. Yeah, we
- 28:43Speaker 1: got it all done. If Todd Wash wants to spend
- 28:45Speaker 1: some time with us afterwards, we're free. We're going to
- 28:48Speaker 1: White Boy. We'll figure it out. I'll talk to Doug too. Yeah,
- 28:52Speaker 1: we dug my own coming in, Dug morown show coming
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- 32:47Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey did not practice today and still unsure if
- 32:50Speaker 1: he will play on Sunday TVD on that with Friday's
- 32:52Speaker 1: injury report. One guy who did practice and is playing
- 32:56Speaker 1: well is our gardner minshow so much show that done
- 32:58Speaker 1: Ron well on Good Morning Football and congratulated him. This
- 33:01Speaker 1: way take for you to wear one of the Minshew
- 33:05Speaker 1: mustaches after a win? What would that take? You know?
- 33:07Speaker 1: So funny? Someone asked me that I can never grow
- 33:10Speaker 1: mustache because I couldn't never grow hair right here in
- 33:12Speaker 1: the middle. Um never. I tried to my senior year
- 33:14Speaker 1: in college. Didn't work well. It was too cheesy. Um,
- 33:19Speaker 1: you know what it's gonna take. If he keeps winning,
- 33:20Speaker 1: I'll wear whatever I have to wear. I'll start wearing
- 33:22Speaker 1: a mustache. And I know you got the team storts.
- 33:26Speaker 1: Come on, you already got the jaworts. I gotta tell
- 33:29Speaker 1: you the other day, after the game is over, I'm
- 33:31Speaker 1: walking to do to press conference that I looked down
- 33:33Speaker 1: as a jock trap. I haven't seen a jockstrap on
- 33:35Speaker 1: the flooring. Who the hell jockstrap? And I'm like, oh
- 33:38Speaker 1: my god, is this that kid's Jockstrap. This is nasty
- 33:41Speaker 1: with someone for this thing away, you know crazy, that's
- 33:44Speaker 1: just starting quarterback Dugg. So I'll leave Leon, Tony and
- 33:49Speaker 1: JP to talk about that one with Dun Brown. Coming
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- 34:20Speaker 1: Tony Celluli on Searcy. I just said that they just
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- 34:38Speaker 1: I'm gonna go see Zach and Young Thu. Yeah, let's
- 34:44Speaker 1: do it. I've never been a Daily splace. I went to.
- 34:48Speaker 1: Oh you went to see young Man? How you go
- 34:52Speaker 1: see Young West? It was great. See your street crane
- 34:55Speaker 1: is up, it was awesome. Nowhere to go butt up.
- 35:00Speaker 1: But okay. At Young Wheezies concert, the base was so
- 35:04Speaker 1: strong it was shaking my insights. Really, Oh, it was
- 35:08Speaker 1: out of control. That's what I'm talking about. Young great show.
- 35:12Speaker 1: I don't know it's coming up so young thug, but
- 35:14Speaker 1: I like those shows like Wheezy. I knew some of
- 35:16Speaker 1: the songs, obviously because he's been around longer. The shows.
- 35:20Speaker 1: It's just the show. The energy these guys have unbelievable,
- 35:23Speaker 1: out of control. I could picture you two guys on
- 35:25Speaker 1: one of the couches down there. Get some couches for
- 35:28Speaker 1: just I gotta remember that young thug problems. My kids
- 35:31Speaker 1: want to go, I'm not sure. Let's see, I've already
- 35:35Speaker 1: been bounced from the couch. I want you to go.
- 35:38Speaker 1: I'm going. I don't want to go with my teenage
- 35:40Speaker 1: daughters the young thug. Okay, no, we don't do that well.
- 35:43Speaker 1: Figuring that you get a little tit, you get a
- 35:45Speaker 1: couple of weeks. I'm much rather go with you. Yes,
- 35:48Speaker 1: my girls, but not the young were during Ashley's update
- 35:51Speaker 1: there Doug Moron on Good Morning Football, and the menshu
- 35:54Speaker 1: mania is out there, of course, the drop strap stories
- 35:58Speaker 1: and the mustaches and the band, Dana's and the whole deal. Well,
- 36:02Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew himself was asked about it. How does he
- 36:04Speaker 1: compartmentalize the mania from the football. Yeah, I mean you
- 36:08Speaker 1: can't help but notice it, but you just try to.
- 36:10Speaker 1: I mean, that's what it's outside. You know, it's not
- 36:12Speaker 1: in this building and done have anything to do with
- 36:14Speaker 1: what we do out there. Um, So I just try
- 36:16Speaker 1: to keep it there and um you know, not not
- 36:18Speaker 1: worry about it on foot all the time. Yeah, once
- 36:21Speaker 1: football time comes, he seems to be pretty much locked
- 36:24Speaker 1: in here. Guys, Well, listen the guy, the composure he has,
- 36:29Speaker 1: his obvious from just watching him play football. We can
- 36:32Speaker 1: say that since the preseason has played out so far
- 36:35Speaker 1: this year, and so you would think that would carry
- 36:37Speaker 1: over to just his how he acts as a person.
- 36:40Speaker 1: I mean I don't think much bothers this guy, and
- 36:43Speaker 1: he's been able to come, you know, handle the situation
- 36:46Speaker 1: very well, compartmentalized. Like you've said, you know, when did
- 36:50Speaker 1: worry about what? And this guy's about ball. He loves football.
- 36:54Speaker 1: I mean, if you just go back to his story,
- 36:56Speaker 1: what he what he went through to play Division one
- 36:59Speaker 1: football and the path he took. I mean, you don't
- 37:03Speaker 1: take that path unless you love ball, and he loves ball,
- 37:07Speaker 1: so I think he's done a good job with it.
- 37:10Speaker 1: The interesting thing is everything's going his way right now. Yeah,
- 37:16Speaker 1: and what will be what I'm fascinated to see And
- 37:19Speaker 1: I think I know the answer this, but you don't
- 37:21Speaker 1: know what happens when the adversity comes. Because adversity comes
- 37:27Speaker 1: to every team, every player. It's just part of the
- 37:29Speaker 1: NFL sixteen games, long season. And you saw a little
- 37:32Speaker 1: bit of it in this Bronco game when they started
- 37:36Speaker 1: really slow. He was four for ten, I think or
- 37:38Speaker 1: four for nine, and he handled that situation great, and
- 37:42Speaker 1: they get down and he handled the two minute drive
- 37:45Speaker 1: like a veteran guy. So each of these tests he
- 37:49Speaker 1: kind of overcomes. And I'm gonna ask dougno about this
- 37:53Speaker 1: when he comes in, is last year's team didn't overcome
- 37:58Speaker 1: adversity very well. This team and what they did against
- 38:03Speaker 1: the Broncos, the adversity they faced, being down seventeen three,
- 38:07Speaker 1: seventeen six going the halftime and they come back and
- 38:10Speaker 1: play the way they did was a great sign. And
- 38:14Speaker 1: it would be interesting to hear what's different and is
- 38:17Speaker 1: it because of how the quarterback handles himself because you
- 38:22Speaker 1: haven't had leon and I know about you, but this
- 38:24Speaker 1: is the first time in years that when we went
- 38:27Speaker 1: back on for the two minute drive, I actually thought like,
- 38:29Speaker 1: he's gonna probably put us in field goal range. We're
- 38:31Speaker 1: gonna have a chance to win this. I even felt
- 38:33Speaker 1: like that in a long time. No, not exactly. I listened.
- 38:35Speaker 1: I was at the watch party last week when we
- 38:38Speaker 1: were watching the game. We got down, you know, seventeen
- 38:40Speaker 1: to six, came back in the third coil, and then
- 38:42Speaker 1: had that ten minute drive where we just took up all,
- 38:45Speaker 1: you know, just sucked up all the air out of
- 38:47Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos defense when we had the tim in
- 38:49Speaker 1: the drive, and then the Broncos went down and scored again.
- 38:51Speaker 1: And I remember the atmosphere inside that watch room was like, oh,
- 38:55Speaker 1: here we go again, because it was like he got
- 38:57Speaker 1: the same old jagualls can't finish the football game. And
- 38:59Speaker 1: I was sitting there, I was only I was the
- 39:01Speaker 1: only person of reasoning there. I was like, for whatever reason,
- 39:04Speaker 1: I just believe Gardener mishe was going to carry us
- 39:07Speaker 1: down to get us a field wal position with a
- 39:08Speaker 1: minute thirty two seconds, and he did it, and he
- 39:11Speaker 1: did that he made the necessary passes. He's stuck in
- 39:13Speaker 1: the pocket. He was getting hit all day, gave up
- 39:15Speaker 1: five secs of getting probably got hit twelve times during
- 39:18Speaker 1: the game, officially twelve times in the game. But whenever
- 39:21Speaker 1: that kid has I don't know what it is, called
- 39:23Speaker 1: a misshu madia, moxie, cockiness, confidence, whatever it is. But
- 39:28Speaker 1: he's just a ball He's just a baller right now.
- 39:31Speaker 1: He enjoys the game of football. The moment is never
- 39:33Speaker 1: too big for him, and he showed it last week.
- 39:36Speaker 1: So I mean, I just I knew in my mind
- 39:39Speaker 1: he was gonna take us down there and get us
- 39:40Speaker 1: a field goal position to kick the winning score. And
- 39:42Speaker 1: the next test will be the diversity for him personally,
- 39:44Speaker 1: because he hasn't had it really yet where he's made
- 39:46Speaker 1: that throw where it's just awful, where it's just a
- 39:49Speaker 1: terrible pick. All quarterbacks do that, and how they rebound
- 39:54Speaker 1: from that, and so he hasn't had that yet, And
- 39:56Speaker 1: I hope he doesn't happen this week or the next week.
- 39:58Speaker 1: It never happens, but you know, sooner or later. I mean,
- 40:02Speaker 1: the greatest of all time, the Peyton Mannings and Tom
- 40:04Speaker 1: Brady's they get they make they make mistakes and it's
- 40:08Speaker 1: how you respond. So he's past every test so far,
- 40:13Speaker 1: and for a rookie to do that is remarkable. I
- 40:17Speaker 1: can't think of a rookie quarterback like rookies at other positions. Frankly,
- 40:20Speaker 1: you can do that like workie offensive alignment. I mean,
- 40:22Speaker 1: both Ley and I did it. You go out there,
- 40:24Speaker 1: it's football like they're better. You go play and like
- 40:29Speaker 1: every other position is a little bit different, quarterbacks unique
- 40:32Speaker 1: because every play everyone's and you have the most responsibility.
- 40:37Speaker 1: You're leading the team in and out of the huddle,
- 40:39Speaker 1: You're making calls at the line of scrimmage. You're in
- 40:42Speaker 1: the pocket, defenseless, you're the only player that's not aggressively
- 40:46Speaker 1: trying to do something one on one to protect yourself
- 40:49Speaker 1: or go be physical. You're sitting there trusting other people.
- 40:52Speaker 1: So it's such a new, unique position and a lot
- 40:53Speaker 1: of times you guys struggle with that just from the
- 40:55Speaker 1: fact that being comfortable in the pocket and comfortable trusting
- 40:58Speaker 1: everything else. And he's natural at it. So it's it's
- 41:01Speaker 1: another thing is I've been in a lot of huddles,
- 41:04Speaker 1: you know, I've been huddles with you know, Mark Bronell,
- 41:09Speaker 1: you as a quarterback. You've got to believe that the
- 41:11Speaker 1: guys in the huddle, the quarterback could lead you to
- 41:14Speaker 1: the promised Land. You know what I'm saying, You can't.
- 41:17Speaker 1: It's no faking that. When they say faking the phone,
- 41:20Speaker 1: you can't fake the phone. Like when Mark, we know
- 41:22Speaker 1: we know, because we know, we know. I listen. I
- 41:25Speaker 1: tell people that all everything I tell them. In where
- 41:28Speaker 1: we were in Denver in the playoffs against the Broncos
- 41:30Speaker 1: and we needed to drive to kind of seal the deal,
- 41:33Speaker 1: Mark Mark Burke Whell comes in there and said, Okay,
- 41:36Speaker 1: as we've been here before, let's do it. That right
- 41:38Speaker 1: there sends a message to your whole the whole huddle
- 41:41Speaker 1: that we're going to get it done. And I don't
- 41:42Speaker 1: know what Gardener, miss she was saying in that huddle,
- 41:45Speaker 1: but whatever he's saying, he's those guys in that huddle
- 41:48Speaker 1: believe in him. Because I've been in some huddles where
- 41:51Speaker 1: guys talk to talk and them like man whatever, And
- 41:57Speaker 1: that's you know what I'm saying. I've been in Pittsburgh
- 41:59Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna saying that by his name, but
- 42:01Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, I wasn't the Huddle was a certain player
- 42:03Speaker 1: when he talked to talking and I'm like, okay, bro whatever, well,
- 42:06Speaker 1: I mean we named names of the show. Okay, it
- 42:09Speaker 1: was o'donna. It was o'donna, it was o'donald. After he
- 42:12Speaker 1: threw the first pick, he threw the second pick. I
- 42:14Speaker 1: didn't want to hear that, Mats. Okay, So so it
- 42:17Speaker 1: was Odonald in the Super Bowl. Okay, so all right,
- 42:20Speaker 1: but you know, yeah, guys know, but like Leon's right,
- 42:24Speaker 1: like Lee and I have been on the same model,
- 42:26Speaker 1: like you have the backup in there, like I remember
- 42:29Speaker 1: in nine Markets are Rob Johnson comes in like like okay,
- 42:33Speaker 1: we're good. Then he got hurt and Steve whatever Marshall
- 42:37Speaker 1: or whatever is that, Like he came in and we're
- 42:42Speaker 1: looking around like okay, we gotta play like better, like
- 42:46Speaker 1: we gotta do everything like skill guys like because it perfect.
- 42:51Speaker 1: He can't do it by himself. And you just see that.
- 42:55Speaker 1: I mean nothing, acats Steve Matthews. He won the football
- 42:57Speaker 1: games for US. We beat the Giants with him. But
- 43:00Speaker 1: it's a different feeling when you sit as an offensive linement,
- 43:03Speaker 1: at least when you know the guy back there, like okay,
- 43:06Speaker 1: we're good. We're gonna play. He didn't take care of
- 43:08Speaker 1: his business compared to the other We're like, you better
- 43:12Speaker 1: do a little bit extra here. Confidence on the field
- 43:14Speaker 1: one thing. Uh, it's a little different for the play
- 43:16Speaker 1: caller too. Can the play caller trust the quarterback? John D.
- 43:19Speaker 1: Philippo thinks, so it's a fine line still, you know,
- 43:23Speaker 1: four games into his rookie season. Um, but he's earning
- 43:27Speaker 1: our trust. There's no doubt. And and you know, the
- 43:29Speaker 1: more he goes out there and and does the right
- 43:32Speaker 1: thing and and throws the ball on time accurately, uh,
- 43:35Speaker 1: and not turning the ball over, you can continue to
- 43:37Speaker 1: give a rookie more on his plate for sure. And
- 43:41Speaker 1: he went on later to talk about a situation where
- 43:43Speaker 1: I think on the long run they there was a
- 43:47Speaker 1: at the line. He made a check, basically killed one
- 43:49Speaker 1: of the plays. They had two plays in the line,
- 43:50Speaker 1: there was a look, they killed it, They went to
- 43:52Speaker 1: the run, went for the eighty one yarder, and it
- 43:55Speaker 1: seemed like he was very comfortable in that situation, just
- 43:58Speaker 1: calling plays and getting out of a situation. And if
- 44:01Speaker 1: the coordinator trusts that guy to do it, that's a
- 44:04Speaker 1: big thing. You know. Yeah, when Tony and I play
- 44:06Speaker 1: it was called what check with me? So the quarterback
- 44:09Speaker 1: he had two plays. It was a run play in
- 44:11Speaker 1: the past play and depending on what the defense gave you,
- 44:13Speaker 1: wherever the safety were a line or wherever they shifted
- 44:16Speaker 1: or whatever. The quarterback what it was initially was called
- 44:19Speaker 1: a pass and then he said check with me, Check
- 44:21Speaker 1: with me, and he'll make a run call. So that
- 44:23Speaker 1: seems to be what MISSU did in this situation where
- 44:25Speaker 1: he saw an opportunity to run the ball effectively, so
- 44:28Speaker 1: he checked to us. So that, you know, that's cool
- 44:30Speaker 1: those to him, I mean the kids. I mean, the
- 44:33Speaker 1: dude got a forty two on the wonder luck. Yeah,
- 44:35Speaker 1: I mean that's only one lesson I got. I mean,
- 44:37Speaker 1: so really you've trumped him, ye know. But um, I
- 44:44Speaker 1: mean the cats can't even barely the cats smart. Um.
- 44:49Speaker 1: His study habits are already known, I mean from training
- 44:54Speaker 1: camp of his comprehension of the playbook and what he's
- 44:57Speaker 1: able to absorb and then take from the me being
- 45:00Speaker 1: room to the field, and then the performance is just
- 45:03Speaker 1: adding to it. So I think what John D. Philippo
- 45:05Speaker 1: saying is like, yeah, like I'm not sure what they
- 45:07Speaker 1: trust him? Like a five year vet. But they're trusting him.
- 45:11Speaker 1: But he's done everything else, so they're giving him the
- 45:14Speaker 1: latitude to change plays at the line of scrimmage. You
- 45:17Speaker 1: don't give a lot of rookies that latitude the key
- 45:19Speaker 1: to the men. Don't give to me k keys to
- 45:22Speaker 1: the men. The other part of this thing, too, is
- 45:24Speaker 1: that you know, one of the knocks on him coming
- 45:26Speaker 1: in was his perceived lack of arm strength. Have you
- 45:29Speaker 1: seen that yet? Well, he's made all the throws so
- 45:32Speaker 1: far from what we've seen, and we haven't seen him
- 45:37Speaker 1: make every throw, like like the one on the last nievable.
- 45:42Speaker 1: He's throwing the outs and he's driving the ball I
- 45:44Speaker 1: think the only one and maybe we've seen it, but
- 45:46Speaker 1: it doesn't come to mind anyone in particular throw is
- 45:49Speaker 1: the is the deep end the dig route that eighteen
- 45:52Speaker 1: yard in we have to drive it over the middle field,
- 45:55Speaker 1: And maybe he has. But he's throwing the deep balls.
- 45:57Speaker 1: He's throwing the over route. Uh, he's still on the
- 46:00Speaker 1: deep outs, he's still the comebacks, and there's plenty of
- 46:05Speaker 1: zip on him. But here's the thing. Anyone will tell you,
- 46:09Speaker 1: any quarterback will tell you arm strength is great, but
- 46:12Speaker 1: it's about knowing where they go with the ball he does.
- 46:16Speaker 1: It's about timing. He gets it out on time, and
- 46:19Speaker 1: it's about accuracy. He puts it on the numbers more
- 46:22Speaker 1: times than not. So you have those three things. Like,
- 46:25Speaker 1: let me tell you what. Drew Brees didn't have the
- 46:27Speaker 1: strongest arm. It's gotten stronger over the years. Peyton at
- 46:29Speaker 1: the end, Peyton Manning didn't have the strongest arm. Tom
- 46:32Speaker 1: Brady when he first game in the league, it didn't
- 46:34Speaker 1: have the strongest arm. He's built it up where it's stronger.
- 46:36Speaker 1: It's a good strong arm now and so but it's
- 46:38Speaker 1: the accuracy in the timing that's more important than anything,
- 46:41Speaker 1: and he has those things. Awesome, let's come back. We'll
- 46:44Speaker 1: go around the National Football the AFC South. We'll touch
- 46:47Speaker 1: on some big games in the division. This week, the
- 46:50Speaker 1: Jacks would be in the first place alone after this week.
- 46:53Speaker 1: In theory, we'll go through all the games the FC
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- 51:15Speaker 1: The book in Tackles with Us Today, The Jags and
- 51:18Speaker 1: the Panthers coming up Sunday, Um and um, yes, no,
- 51:22Speaker 1: go ahead, No, what we're using? No, No, I gotta
- 51:24Speaker 1: I gotta make a note not to wash the TV
- 51:27Speaker 1: while I'm doing the radio, because it looks like I
- 51:29Speaker 1: got like tin cameras on there, like I'm swollowing on TV.
- 51:32Speaker 1: What's wrong? I look a little bigger than that should be.
- 51:35Speaker 1: What do you mean, well, I mean you've been in
- 51:36Speaker 1: the weight room, what are you talking about it? I
- 51:39Speaker 1: don't think he's talking about that exactly. Thank you, thank you,
- 51:43Speaker 1: thank you to you know what I'm saying. No, that's why,
- 51:44Speaker 1: you know what I did. I just pulled the shirt out.
- 51:46Speaker 1: I try to wear a bigger shirt. I'll try to
- 51:49Speaker 1: try to wear a bigger shirt. Otherwise there's like certain
- 51:51Speaker 1: creases and I don't want to exactly welcome to our
- 51:55Speaker 1: world on UM. That's what we have to deal with
- 51:57Speaker 1: her on TV. It's feel better feel the Jackson feel
- 52:05Speaker 1: pretty good about themselves. Are right down to and two records.
- 52:07Speaker 1: We look at the ANFC South standings and of course
- 52:09Speaker 1: across the board it's two and two all the way down.
- 52:12Speaker 1: The Jags officially are in third in the division because
- 52:15Speaker 1: of the division loss. Houston, Indy only have one game
- 52:18Speaker 1: played they've won it um and then of course this
- 52:21Speaker 1: week the games in the a f C South. You know,
- 52:24Speaker 1: if you if you're an optimist, if your glass is
- 52:27Speaker 1: half full, then you're thinking, hey, wait, wait a minute.
- 52:29Speaker 1: The Jags, if everything goes right, they could be in
- 52:31Speaker 1: first place alone. They're playing the Panthers, tough game, road game.
- 52:34Speaker 1: Panthers are good, get that, but the Falcons could go
- 52:37Speaker 1: into Houston and they could though could but they're not.
- 52:43Speaker 1: But they could. I mean, I'll just sound like it's
- 52:45Speaker 1: gonna be. It's not like the Dolphins going into Hues.
- 52:47Speaker 1: Let me tell you what's gonna happened right here. The
- 52:48Speaker 1: Jags are winning. I've already said that we're gonna be
- 52:51Speaker 1: three and two. The Texans are winning, They're gonna beat
- 52:54Speaker 1: the Falcons. They'll be three and two. Okay, the Bills
- 52:56Speaker 1: are at the Titans. I like the Titans in this game.
- 52:59Speaker 1: I the Titans are gonna be three and two, and
- 53:01Speaker 1: the Culture gonna lose to the Chiefs. There'll be two.
- 53:03Speaker 1: And that's how it's gonna work. Outs were going to
- 53:06Speaker 1: get work. Yeah, that's it. So we'll be tied for
- 53:09Speaker 1: first still at three and two, which is fine. Um,
- 53:12Speaker 1: I don't really care what the other teams do right
- 53:14Speaker 1: now because it's such a long, uh season. We're gonna
- 53:18Speaker 1: play them all. We're gonna play the Colts twice. Go
- 53:22Speaker 1: win all the division games. You're gonna win, and you're
- 53:24Speaker 1: gonna be in perfect position at the end of the season. Yeah,
- 53:27Speaker 1: I agree. I mean, I guess our division we got
- 53:30Speaker 1: a punch of chance against any of them. We should
- 53:32Speaker 1: have beat the Texans. We beat the Titans, Yeah, then
- 53:35Speaker 1: we we gotta. We can beat the Coats and go
- 53:38Speaker 1: from there. See what happens. You don't think the Falcons
- 53:40Speaker 1: can go beat these They still got they still got
- 53:45Speaker 1: receivers at a quarterback. Did you watch last receivers and
- 53:48Speaker 1: quarterbacks not be on the get in the end zone?
- 53:52Speaker 1: That Ryan's like the worst red zone quarterback in the
- 53:55Speaker 1: last two years. And their offenses on strike whatever reason,
- 54:00Speaker 1: points strike, they get yards. So the Colts don't have
- 54:06Speaker 1: a chance in Cana Sunday Night football. Now, the Bills
- 54:11Speaker 1: can beat the Titans. But I just I like the
- 54:13Speaker 1: Titans in that game. Back. Yeah, he's a good player,
- 54:18Speaker 1: good player, plays nasty. He would have fit in with
- 54:22Speaker 1: our group, good player with your group. He's a tough player,
- 54:26Speaker 1: he plays physical. I like him, I really do. I
- 54:29Speaker 1: hate I mean, I hate the Titans, but I like
- 54:30Speaker 1: the one. I mean, you watch football, watch how the
- 54:33Speaker 1: kid plays. He's a good football player. Let's touch on
- 54:36Speaker 1: a couple of topics around the league. Vante's berfix suspended
- 54:39Speaker 1: the rest of the season for hit Sunday on the
- 54:41Speaker 1: Occults tight end Jack Doyle, but it was the patitive behavior,
- 54:44Speaker 1: the reason behind that suspension. He went to England with
- 54:47Speaker 1: the team because the Raiders flew right after the game,
- 54:49Speaker 1: but he had to fly back. The appeals coming tuesday.
- 54:52Speaker 1: Derek Brooks will hear the appeal. He's jointly appointed by
- 54:55Speaker 1: the league and the players Association. Well this stand up,
- 54:57Speaker 1: do you think? No? I don't think they're gonna give
- 54:59Speaker 1: him the rest of the year. I think Derek Brooks
- 55:00Speaker 1: will listen to the people, probably come back with like
- 55:02Speaker 1: eight games, maybe ten, and this will be I think
- 55:05Speaker 1: what they're gonna say is like, listen, this is it.
- 55:09Speaker 1: You get suspended again. It's gonna be it's gonna be
- 55:11Speaker 1: sixteen games. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's on this last layer.
- 55:15Speaker 1: But I think Derek Brooks will come back and reduced
- 55:19Speaker 1: it a few games. That's typically what happens in these situations.
- 55:23Speaker 1: I mean, listen, he got suspended for the season because
- 55:26Speaker 1: of his resume. That's a lot to do with all
- 55:28Speaker 1: the stuff that he had done before. It was the
- 55:30Speaker 1: first time offender. No, he would have had something. But
- 55:33Speaker 1: he'll probably getting reduced. He probably getting reduced to six
- 55:36Speaker 1: to eight games. But if he does anything else after this,
- 55:38Speaker 1: he'll probably get suspended for a year, so we're not
- 55:41Speaker 1: hearing it until Tuesday. That's right. You know, it should
- 55:45Speaker 1: be like baseball, though, if you appeal it, you should
- 55:48Speaker 1: be able to play while you appeel it, because what
- 55:51Speaker 1: if they come back and say, we're not gonna supend
- 55:52Speaker 1: you for any game, which isn't gonna happen, but you
- 55:55Speaker 1: should be all the uh, if the appeal is going on,
- 55:57Speaker 1: should be able to play or force the NFL. Here
- 56:00Speaker 1: it quicker, right, let's I agree with it. I agree
- 56:04Speaker 1: with that point of it. Appeal Like if you get
- 56:07Speaker 1: so he does he lose a check? Is the question? Yeah?
- 56:09Speaker 1: Oh he loses a check? Yeah? Oh no, that can't
- 56:13Speaker 1: work like that. You should be gold play and then
- 56:16Speaker 1: they make the decision afterwards. But now he gotta lose
- 56:18Speaker 1: a check. I can't mess with a man in his money.
- 56:23Speaker 1: Cardinals owner Bill Bidwell passed away. He was eighty eight
- 56:26Speaker 1: years old. He became the sole owner of the Cardinals
- 56:29Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy two. Most famous uh in St. Louis
- 56:34Speaker 1: for moving the Cardinals from St. Louis, Arizona. Yeah, for
- 56:39Speaker 1: a long time, you know, he had such a bad
- 56:41Speaker 1: reputation as an owner but you look what he's done
- 56:45Speaker 1: in Arizona and kind of the success they've had, and
- 56:47Speaker 1: it seems like a good franchise and stable and and
- 56:51Speaker 1: I think his son, Michael Bidwell runs the team now,
- 56:54Speaker 1: uh and that has for a while. So thoughts prayers
- 56:57Speaker 1: out to the Bidwell family and a long time uh
- 57:01Speaker 1: uh leader in the NFL passed away new stadium a
- 57:05Speaker 1: few years ago, a bunch of Super Bowls. Yeah, I think.
- 57:07Speaker 1: I mean, it's an old stadium and the new one.
- 57:10Speaker 1: You got the reputation forever. It was such a bad
- 57:12Speaker 1: franchise when they moved, but it seems like things change
- 57:16Speaker 1: once they got the Arizona Alright, Thursday night football tonight,
- 57:19Speaker 1: the Rams at three and one and the Seahawks at
- 57:23Speaker 1: three and one. No dramatic intro like on Monday Night.
- 57:25Speaker 1: There's no music. There's no not just no music, you know,
- 57:28Speaker 1: it's just it's the Los Angeles Rams. Are they real
- 57:35Speaker 1: or not? We'll find out tonight in the noise of
- 57:37Speaker 1: Century Link Field of Seattle, Washington. The Emberald City, sure,
- 57:41Speaker 1: that's what they're called. Seattle's the Emerald City, the three
- 57:43Speaker 1: and one Seattle Seahawks away to help you. You got
- 57:48Speaker 1: I just did it off the cuff. You get to
- 57:49Speaker 1: the Emerald City and there have been like some dramatic
- 57:52Speaker 1: pause possible. I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go Seattle
- 57:55Speaker 1: because I think that RAMS defense has issues. It's a
- 57:58Speaker 1: tough place to play, and Russell Wilson's playing the best
- 58:00Speaker 1: football of his career right now. A hundred and eighteen
- 58:02Speaker 1: passer raider pretty good. So I'm gonna I'm gonna say
- 58:05Speaker 1: the Rams was two in a row, and I'm gonna
- 58:09Speaker 1: say the find a way to win? What do you think? Yeah,
- 58:12Speaker 1: I'm going with the twelfth Man in this way. Rex,
- 58:14Speaker 1: you say, Russell wist was playing something this best football
- 58:17Speaker 1: and golf is struggling. He's struggling. How in the heck
- 58:21Speaker 1: did they give up fifty five last week the Tampa
- 58:24Speaker 1: Bay ball They had a defensive touchdown that's one one,
- 58:28Speaker 1: it's six points. I think they had a couple of
- 58:31Speaker 1: golf through like three picks and had two fumbles. Something terrible.
- 58:34Speaker 1: Was a disaster. The whole thing with short fields and
- 58:37Speaker 1: old deal. They might be reconsidering that extension. He just said,
- 58:43Speaker 1: you can't mess with the man's money. I'm just saying, listen,
- 58:47Speaker 1: What happened changed that quick On the other side, depends
- 58:52Speaker 1: on the situation. You went the management side real quick.
- 58:56Speaker 1: Jack's Panthers coming up. You guys, feel good about this game.
- 58:58Speaker 1: I told you I locked it twenty seventeen the bank,
- 59:02Speaker 1: three and two seventeen, Okay, I got Jaguars like that.
- 59:08Speaker 1: Three and two coming back to for the New Orleans
- 59:11Speaker 1: Saints in two weeks now. Leen, we'll talk to you
- 59:14Speaker 1: on Sunday. You got it well, un serasi with us, Tony,
- 59:17Speaker 1: You and I are back in the The Doug Brone
- 59:19Speaker 1: Show is right around the corner of the head. Coach
- 59:20Speaker 1: will join us for the next half hour on the
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