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Jeff Legwold joins Kreckman & Lindahl 2-21-25 · Jeff Legwold ESPN Broncos Reports

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  Speaker 1: Jeff Leangwald is our Broncos insider Altitude Sports Radio ninety
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  Speaker 2: The insider I've covered while.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Legwall, his appearances are always must listen radio. We
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  Speaker 3: Start with a job and with the career.
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  Speaker 1: IVW Local sixty eight. It's Leggy wef yeh on Altitude
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  Speaker 1: Sports Radio ninety two five on Fridays, we talked to
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Legwald. As always, his appearance is brought to you
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  Speaker 1: Start with a job, you end with a career. The
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  Speaker 1: combine is next in the life cycle of the NFL
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  Speaker 1: off season. Jeff Legwall joining us right now from Parts unknown. Leggy,
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  Speaker 1: as as you walk into the building, tell me the
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  Speaker 1: story of this draft. Every draft there is there is
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  Speaker 1: a story. There is a narrative. Last year it was
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  Speaker 1: about quarterbacks. What is this draft about this year?
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  Speaker 4: Well, then it's because of that draft. This draft is
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  Speaker 4: not quarterbacks. And it's following the record. You know, six
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  Speaker 4: quarterbacks taken in twelve picks. It's unprecedented in draft history
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  Speaker 4: and to it to have this draft follow it. I
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  Speaker 4: mean these quarterbacks that you know, they barely got the
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  Speaker 4: season over, and they were already being slotted into where
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  Speaker 4: they would have been in last year's class, and and
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  Speaker 4: all of those things.
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  Speaker 2: And to me, anytime there's not a slam.
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  Speaker 4: Dunk quarterback at the top of the board, that that
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  Speaker 4: leaves open a whole variety of things that could happen
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  Speaker 4: on the draft weekend. And to me, ultimately that will
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  Speaker 4: be the story of this draft, is how those first
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  Speaker 4: ten picks shake out, because I think it's very difficult
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  Speaker 4: to predict. Even know gms, even in the league are
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  Speaker 4: gonna have a difficult time predicting how that's gonna go.
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  Speaker 5: All right, Jeff, a lot of reports that it looks
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  Speaker 5: like cam Ward will be QB one. Now again, we
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  Speaker 5: got the whole combine to go. But you've talked to me,
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  Speaker 5: we've talked privately. You've said cam Ward's gonna likely athletically
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  Speaker 5: look better at the combine. Then we expect Shadoor too,
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  Speaker 5: because cam Ward's the better athlete. Do you buy There's
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  Speaker 5: all sorts of stories about I don't know, Tennessee wanting
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  Speaker 5: to trade out even though they need a quarterback, and
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  Speaker 5: maybe Cleveland wants to just go to the Kirk Cousins
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  Speaker 5: routes cause the cause of the connection to Stefanski that
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  Speaker 5: Cousins has.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think that both Ward and.
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  Speaker 5: Shadur could they be up for surprise falls or do
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  Speaker 5: you think when this thing all shakes out, we're done
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  Speaker 5: with the combine, teams will talk to themselves into grabbing
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  Speaker 5: those guys one and two on the draft board.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And I think the days of the sort of the
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  Speaker 4: Jim Drunck and Miller only quarterback in the first round
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  Speaker 4: or are long gone to Paul whatever, whatever quarterbacks are
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  Speaker 4: rated highly, are going fast. And I think that's ultimately
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  Speaker 4: Tennessee has all the cards because it's you know, it's
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  Speaker 4: it's what they decide.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 4: Do they want to live with Will Levis and use
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  Speaker 4: that pick to turn it into multiple players, you know,
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  Speaker 4: the best player on the board. You know, people love
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  Speaker 4: cam Ward as a leader, They love his toughness, they
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  Speaker 4: love his accuracy. They you know, he's he's a big quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: He's got a lot in his favor that NFL people like, uh,
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  Speaker 4: you know, and Schadur is going to fight the holding
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  Speaker 4: the ball issue. That's gonna be what he's going to
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  Speaker 4: have to address. And you know, sort of this buzz
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  Speaker 4: you're hearing now, are those misgivings people are having. You know,
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  Speaker 4: It's like you know, when I was with Date the
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  Speaker 4: other day, it's is it a decision or a habit?
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  Speaker 4: That's That's what you're gonna have to to decide on Shador.
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  Speaker 4: And that's why cam Ward sort of has the QB
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  Speaker 4: one buzz right now, because he's overall a cleaner prospect
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  Speaker 4: in terms of developmentally. And again, this is what the
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  Speaker 4: draft is. The draft is criticism. It's it's people looking
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  Speaker 4: at your weaknesses because they're so fearful of not getting
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  Speaker 4: it right. Uh, you know, they turn over all the
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  Speaker 4: stones and and this is how it'll sound for a
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  Speaker 4: little while. But whoever takes Shadur in the draft is
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  Speaker 4: gonna like them a lot, and they're gonna, you know,
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  Speaker 4: have a guy they can work with who's a tremendous
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  Speaker 4: and elite processor and has an elite understanding of defenses.
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  Speaker 4: So that's an awfully good place for him to start playing.
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  Speaker 4: I think cam Ward will be QB one for most
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  Speaker 4: teams unless something significant happens between now and April.
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  Speaker 5: All right, So Mike, Here's another question, and Nate, I
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  Speaker 5: don't know if you've wandered this or not too, is
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  Speaker 5: the QB free agent class can affect this too, because
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  Speaker 5: all of a sudden, Sandar san Darnal looks like a
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  Speaker 5: viable prospect where he didn't look like that necessarily a
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  Speaker 5: year ago. You've got the intrigue of what will Zach
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  Speaker 5: Wilson be now that he's been with Sean Payton for
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  Speaker 5: a year and had a pretty nice preseason.
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  Speaker 3: Could this could this draft class.
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  Speaker 5: Be affected by the fact that they are better There
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  Speaker 5: are better free agent veteran options, whereas some of those
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  Speaker 5: options and looks so great a year ago.
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  Speaker 4: Right, I mean, it's it's gonna they're gonna be more
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  Speaker 4: active in free agency because last year they were dealing
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  Speaker 4: with a you know, a first two rounds of the
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  Speaker 4: draft where you had six or seven quarterbacks on people's boards.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, you don't have that this year.
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  Speaker 4: So that that that leaves an awful lot of people
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  Speaker 4: wanting you know, there again, supply never equals demand in
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  Speaker 4: the quarterback world, so more teams need them than than
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  Speaker 4: good ones are available. So yeah, that I think the
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  Speaker 4: free agency will impact who is in the draft mix.
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  Speaker 4: But ultimately, if teams think they're in the position in
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  Speaker 4: the top six, seven, eight, nine picks to get one
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  Speaker 4: of those guys, you know they're gonna they're gonna try
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  Speaker 4: to do that because that's gonna be how they focused
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  Speaker 4: their off season, because it's more of a long term solution.
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  Speaker 4: If you're picking up at the top of the board,
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  Speaker 4: you need long term solutions, and free agency doesn't always
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  Speaker 4: offer you that.
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  Speaker 1: At quarterback, talking to Jeff Legwold here talking NFL Draft,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna get to what Denver is looking at at
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  Speaker 1: twenty and beyond in this draft, because hey, what a concept.
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  Speaker 1: They actually have picks this year. But Leggie, let's let's
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  Speaker 1: talk about Cleveland at number two. I think the Browns
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  Speaker 1: are one of the most interesting teams of this offseason.
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  Speaker 1: They have so many problems, but they also do have
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  Speaker 1: the number two overall pick, which affords you some possible solutions.
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  Speaker 1: They they like their GM, they like their coach given
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  Speaker 1: and I say that based on the fact that they
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  Speaker 1: haven't fired any of those people yet. You know, he
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  Speaker 1: can't really trust what the Haslums are gonna do going
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  Speaker 1: forward right here, But when you look at Cleveland, what's
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  Speaker 1: the buzz? What are you hearing from people about where
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  Speaker 1: they're at in trying to dig out of the crater
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  Speaker 1: that they have found themselves in.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it all starts and ends with Deshaun Watson. What
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  Speaker 4: do you do with them? And he's coming off yet
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  Speaker 4: another significant injury. His contract is crippling for the franchise
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  Speaker 4: and your best player, Miles Garrett has.
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  Speaker 2: Said he wants out, so that that's not.
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  Speaker 4: You know, a spectacular place to be to get the
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  Speaker 4: off season going. So, you know, I think you know,
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  Speaker 4: most people look at them. When you talk to people
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  Speaker 4: in the league about the Browns, you don't get past
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  Speaker 4: the Watson deal. You know, after thirty seconds people are
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  Speaker 4: already bringing that up. And honestly, the feeling is from
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  Speaker 4: most people I talk to is I'm glad it's not us.
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  Speaker 4: That's that's kind of the approach.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 4: They they need anybody they would pick at number two.
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  Speaker 4: It's just should it be a quarterback? And do you
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  Speaker 4: feel good enough about the guy to deal with the
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  Speaker 4: lots in situation? Because you can't. Ultimately, you can't deal
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  Speaker 4: with the lots in situation. I don't think unless your
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  Speaker 4: quarterback is on a rookie deal. I think that has
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  Speaker 4: to go together, you know, much like that's how the
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  Speaker 4: Broncos dealt with the dead money situation. They had a
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  Speaker 4: quarterback on a rookie deal, and that's one of the
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  Speaker 4: few ways you can make that work and dig out,
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  Speaker 4: you know, a fifty three million dollar Camp bump over
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  Speaker 4: the last two years. If you're an okay GM, you
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  Speaker 4: ought to be able to figure out, you know, when
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  Speaker 4: and when when's the right time to finish out the
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  Speaker 4: Watson thing, because I don't think anybody believes they simply
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  Speaker 4: want to keep him till he gets healthy and then
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  Speaker 4: see where he leads them. And I don't think people
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  Speaker 4: in the league think they're there at that point.
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  Speaker 1: Could they be a good Kirk Cousins destination.
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  Speaker 2: Certainly, you know, it's just a money thing. You know.
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  Speaker 4: Now your quarterback room is costing, you know, epic amounts
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  Speaker 4: of money. If it's a Kirk Cousins solution, you know,
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  Speaker 4: to me, that might be a Watson release, severe dead
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  Speaker 4: money crushing and you try to fit Cousins in on
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  Speaker 4: some kind of deal that you.
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  Speaker 1: Can pay him the minimum right kind of like what
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  Speaker 1: did with with with Russ last year.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, and you try to convince him of that
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  Speaker 4: and just say that you know and and we'll we'll
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  Speaker 4: bump it later. If you play well, you put in
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  Speaker 4: a lot of incentives that you know, you know, X
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  Speaker 4: number of touchdown passes, it gets you five million dollars,
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  Speaker 4: you know what, whatever it is, but you try to
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  Speaker 4: build it with his participation in that.
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  Speaker 5: You know, our buddy Chris Harris was on Twitter, and
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  Speaker 5: Chris is kind of jumping into the media. He put
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  Speaker 5: out an opinion I thought was interesting last week that
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  Speaker 5: or maybe was earlier this week that it kind of
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  Speaker 5: caught me off guard.
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  Speaker 3: I want to get your read on it.
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  Speaker 5: Chris felt like the Broncos could use an upgraded center
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  Speaker 5: and maybe a guard, which I have to assume he
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  Speaker 5: was talking about powers. Do you think I gotta imagine
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  Speaker 5: would they really be looking at either position?
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  Speaker 3: What'd you think of Wattenburg?
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  Speaker 5: I thought Wattenburg was all right last year, which is
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  Speaker 5: why that opinion surprised me.
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  Speaker 4: Well, they think these are right, and you know, their
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  Speaker 4: metrics were off the charts in the offensive line. They
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  Speaker 4: were on the best best pass blocking teams in the league,
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  Speaker 4: and they didn't produce in the run game. But in
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  Speaker 4: the again, the advanced metrics of run game wins, they
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  Speaker 4: they fared pretty well.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't think they see it that way.
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  Speaker 4: In powers and minors make too much money to simply
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  Speaker 4: just card them and move on.
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  Speaker 2: Good.
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  Speaker 3: You can't be talking about miners, right, kid was not
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  Speaker 3: he was or whatever?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, that's he's one of their He's one
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  Speaker 4: of their best players right now in the opinion of
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  Speaker 4: other personnel people around the league. So now, I don't think,
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  Speaker 4: you know, they're going to expend a lot of energy
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  Speaker 4: trying to upgrade at guard maybe depth or something. But
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  Speaker 4: I think they feel like they have much bigger needs
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  Speaker 4: than a new a new starter in the offensive line.
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  Speaker 2: Somewhere at this point.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Leggy is George Peyton and his staff and
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  Speaker 1: Seawan in company walk into the combine tight end running
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  Speaker 1: back right at the top of the shopping list. We
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  Speaker 1: know they're going to be keeping a close eye on
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  Speaker 1: those two positions.
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  Speaker 4: What else inside linebacker maybe a safety, you know, and
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  Speaker 4: then core special teamers you know, straight line speed guys
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  Speaker 4: with physicality.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, they need some of those. And you know, I
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  Speaker 2: think that's the.
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  Speaker 4: Shopping list, and that's that's fairly extensive for a team
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  Speaker 4: that went to the playoffs and maybe a wide receiver.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you just I don't think they're ever going
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  Speaker 4: to feel like, you know, they don't want to have
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  Speaker 4: as good a situation for bo Nicks as possible.
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  Speaker 5: All Right, I gotta ask you, and even if you're not,
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  Speaker 5: maybe just lie. There's a mysterious or to you on
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  Speaker 5: Twitter on Twitch today.
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  Speaker 3: Are we not in the draft cave?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 3: Hold on?
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  Speaker 2: Are we in the cave?
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  Speaker 3: Are you in the cave? Sacred? Come on.
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  Speaker 4: I'm working on a project and I just finished a
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  Speaker 4: couple of interviews for it, so I stepped in another
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  Speaker 4: room to do this.
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  Speaker 5: So, alright, I get better if it was the cave
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  Speaker 5: now like the bat cave. Do you have a little
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  Speaker 5: elevator that takes you up and down to the draft
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  Speaker 5: cod Do you still have a real to reel?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: I still watch film.
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  Speaker 4: I transfer all digital video the film so I can
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  Speaker 4: feel with your clicker?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right.
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  Speaker 4: I had an excellent clicker thumb. I was really good
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  Speaker 4: on the clicker.
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  Speaker 3: You could be fast with it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Leggy, give me give me a name, and I
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  Speaker 1: want you to define it this way. A name that
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  Speaker 1: you're eager to watch in Indianapolis. A guy that you
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  Speaker 1: find intriguing that you are looking for more information.
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  Speaker 4: On Judkins from Ohio State, the running back. I'm intrigued
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  Speaker 4: with him. I have him why I want to see
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  Speaker 4: him because I have him rated much higher than a
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  Speaker 4: lot of the personnel guys I talked to.
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  Speaker 2: So I am curious.
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  Speaker 4: I am curious how I came to that conclusion and
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  Speaker 4: if I'm right or not. But I want to see
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  Speaker 4: some of those down on the board running back guys
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  Speaker 4: because I think that could be good value for the Broncos.
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  Speaker 2: Uh in some ways too.
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  Speaker 5: What about the Kansas kid, I mean, obviously, I'm also
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  Speaker 5: I mean he tore up Colorado, So that's where my
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  Speaker 5: interest comes from.
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  Speaker 3: He is he legit, he.
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  Speaker 4: Is he is, and he's multi passed it. He's not
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  Speaker 4: just a runner. But I didn't think he had as
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  Speaker 4: good as Senior Bowl week. And again that's not the
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  Speaker 4: end all be all, I know, but it's it's a
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  Speaker 4: quality look, you know, for a week at a guy
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  Speaker 4: with unfamiliar surroundings and the pressure of an All Star
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  Speaker 4: game and all of those things.
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  Speaker 2: But definitely a.
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  Speaker 4: Really good player and you know, just guys like you
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  Speaker 4: know Dylan Samson from Tennessee. That's another down the board
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  Speaker 4: running back a bit who's got a lot of talent,
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  Speaker 4: you know, catch the ball and run.
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  Speaker 2: So I think running.
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  Speaker 4: Back is a spot where the Broncos could get really
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  Speaker 4: nice value if they don't use the first round pick,
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  Speaker 4: because gent is the only first round back I think
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  Speaker 4: on this board easily.
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  Speaker 5: You know, the last first you know, the last down
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  Speaker 5: the board running back out of Tennessee. You told me
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  Speaker 5: about do you remember who it was?
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  Speaker 3: Who you raved about? Who you had me dialed in
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  Speaker 3: two years ago?
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  Speaker 2: I can't remember now.
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  Speaker 3: It was Christian McCaffrey's class. I'll give you that hit.
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  Speaker 2: Who wasn't I'm trying to think.
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  Speaker 5: To the Saints and now you know, I mean Sean
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  Speaker 5: Payton knows what to do with guys like that.
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  Speaker 4: So and that's the that's the multi faceted player you're
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  Speaker 4: looking for. He's not going to be looking for just
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  Speaker 4: the runner as it were. But and the defensive lineman
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  Speaker 4: and this draft are epic. It's a really good class there.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm I'm intrigued to watch some of them. And uh,
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  Speaker 4: just guys that like Derek Harmon from Oregon played with
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  Speaker 4: Knicks at Oregon. You know, he's probably a middle round
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  Speaker 4: defensive tackle who could walk in and play immediately, or
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  Speaker 4: you know, probably a late or early day too defensive
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  Speaker 4: tackle and he could play immediately for the Broncos.
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  Speaker 5: We did have a textu named Paul who was hyping
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  Speaker 5: this D class couple of weeks ago.
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  Speaker 3: So there you go.
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  Speaker 1: Good stuff up right there from Jeff Legwald. Hipster running
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  Speaker 1: back names for you, Quinn, Shawn Judkins, Devin Neal, Dylan Samson.
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  Speaker 1: There's more than just Ashton Genty in this class. Jeff Legwald.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody read his stuff ESPN, watch him on ESPN obviously,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll talk to him Monday here on The Correckman
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  Speaker 1: The Lindahl Show. Leggy, good work man.
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  Speaker 3: Enjoy the Broker shrimp Ball you'll have.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate you, man, Sam