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"America's Rare Earth Discovery" (Thursday November 20 2025, Hour 3) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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  Speaker 3: of five million dollars for use in her campaign. Now, yesterday,
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  Speaker 3: you may recall the story that we told you out
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  Speaker 3: of Noah, Alaska, and several folks said, Joe, how come
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  Speaker 3: we haven't heard this story in everywhere else.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I don't program anyone else but joining us. And funny enough,
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  Speaker 3: just maybe an hour after the program, a dear friend
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  Speaker 3: of mine contact me and said, Hey, would you like
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  Speaker 3: to talk to somebody from Graphite one? They are and
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  Speaker 3: they started to get into who they are. I know
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  Speaker 3: who they are. They were the lead story in my
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  Speaker 3: news all day, Yes, this morning, and they are like, really,
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  Speaker 3: what kind of weird radio show are you doing there? Joe.
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  Speaker 3: Joining us is Dan McGroarty. He is a strategic advisor
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  Speaker 3: with Graphight one. This is the organization, this is the
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  Speaker 3: company that found this rare earth element deposit in just
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  Speaker 3: I guess, just past Norma, Alaska. There that is being
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  Speaker 3: touted as being large enough to challenge China's dominance in
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  Speaker 3: the rare earth element field. I guess industry marketplace. Dan,
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  Speaker 3: welcome to the program. How are you doing this morning?
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  Speaker 5: Thanks?
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  Speaker 6: John, doing well. I'm happy to be.
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  Speaker 5: If your show is weird, it's weird in the right way.
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  Speaker 3: I like, it's save that for the promo. So, Dan,
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  Speaker 3: tell us, give us the timeline of this discovery. Graphight
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  Speaker 3: one is up there in Alaska. I presume you were
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  Speaker 3: there looking for rare elements anyway.
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  Speaker 5: Well, interestingly, it's a graphite deposit. So the rare earth
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  Speaker 5: show up as a kind of a cherry on top
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  Speaker 5: right side dish of some sort, if you want to
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  Speaker 5: look at it that way. So, but that's the nature
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  Speaker 5: of you know, mining in the twenty first century, isn't
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  Speaker 5: you know a mule and a pickaxe and a shovel,
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  Speaker 5: and a fellow with a grizzly beard, a loile a beard.
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  Speaker 5: You know, it is extraordinarily technologically sophisticated. Long story short,
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  Speaker 5: and this deposit, you're absolutely right. Graphite One is working
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  Speaker 5: a graphite deposit. It's north of Gnome, about thirty some
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  Speaker 5: miles in about thirty some miles south of the Arctic Circle.
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  Speaker 5: So your listeners kind of have an idea of where
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  Speaker 5: in Alaska it's situated, because Alaska is a pretty darn
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  Speaker 5: big place. Now, as the company is developing the graphite deposit,
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  Speaker 5: you know, you are extracting the graphite from the material
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  Speaker 5: around it. In the simplest sense, when miners are doing that,
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  Speaker 5: that material is waste material or a waste stream. It's
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  Speaker 5: not graphite. Well, as you look more closely at what
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  Speaker 5: it at the not graphite portion, the chief geologist is
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  Speaker 5: starting to find these nodules which turn out to attract
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  Speaker 5: reasons unknown, the rare earths. So in the waste stream
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  Speaker 5: is not a waste stream, it's a work stream. It's
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  Speaker 5: got the rare earth. And as you move, if you
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  Speaker 5: think about like a bowl of m and ms with
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  Speaker 5: the reds and the blues. For instance, every time I
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  Speaker 5: take a red out, let's say the reds are their graphite, right,
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  Speaker 5: and I do that and I eat them up, the
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  Speaker 5: remainder has a higher and higher percentage of the blues.
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  Speaker 3: If the blues are.
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  Speaker 5: The rare earths, you're seeing a waste stream that's actually
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  Speaker 5: a workstream. So this is a deposit that has graphite
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  Speaker 5: and the rare earths so quite valuable. Was already viable
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  Speaker 5: as a graphite deposit, and now the rare earths are
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  Speaker 5: just coming along on the side. That's the new discovery.
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  Speaker 3: you know, irony has its place. My smartphones, my three
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  Speaker 3: different ones. I keep every old smartphone I have because
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  Speaker 3: I use it for other things. And I've got my
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  Speaker 3: laptop and my my you know, my audio link up
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  Speaker 3: to the network headquarters, and all of this stuff is
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  Speaker 3: going on, and it's all got rare earth is in it.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't know what those are. Are we talking
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  Speaker 3: about palladium? Are we what rare earths are there in nome?
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  Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely, and these people are all over the place
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  Speaker 5: on this stuff. The rare Earth's sorry to bring up,
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  Speaker 5: you know, comunistry one on one sure turns out, turns out,
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  Speaker 5: turns out we needed to pay more attention to that
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  Speaker 5: than we probably did. But on the periodic table at
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  Speaker 5: the bottom across the bottom base is a group of
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  Speaker 5: elements there and those are strictly speaking, the rare earths.
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  Speaker 5: They are magnetic and some of them are right.
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  Speaker 1: Elogist question for you from Joe Thomas. It's first thing today.
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  Speaker 3: Up here in the place of our northern exposure in Alaska.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't surprise me, but I want to get into this.
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  Speaker 3: We're visiting with Dan McGroarty from Graphite One, who was
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  Speaker 3: in the news yesterday for having discovered this rare earth
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  Speaker 3: element gold mine. If you will, I guess back in
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  Speaker 3: the day when gold mine was the thing, now we
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  Speaker 3: measure it by rare earth elements. Dan, is you know
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  Speaker 3: this technology boom You mentioned some of the things I know,
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  Speaker 3: I got fascinated fixated on what you were saying. You
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  Speaker 3: completely missed the clock there as we were coming up
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  Speaker 3: on break, but you were. You were talking about all
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  Speaker 3: the things that we do with these rare earth elements.
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  Speaker 6: Now.
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  Speaker 3: I was also told that a lot of the human
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  Speaker 3: interface stuff, the gooey stuff, the screens on our phones,
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  Speaker 3: and a lot of that is also driven by rare
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  Speaker 3: earth elements, different ones, I presume, since you were talking
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  Speaker 3: more about the magnets and the back of the house stuff.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, that's a nice way to put at the
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  Speaker 5: back of the house stuff so so it's again, it's
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  Speaker 5: I'm sorry to say, it's not a rare earth. But
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  Speaker 5: there is an element called Indian, and that is when
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  Speaker 5: you touch your touch screen and you can make your
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  Speaker 5: screen larger, you know, the screen larger or smaller, when
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  Speaker 5: you can swipe. I guess nobody could go on dates,
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  Speaker 5: right if without invent Yeah? Right, what did we do
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  Speaker 5: before we swipe? Happily right, happily married? But yeah for
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  Speaker 5: the younger set, right, you know now is now thinking
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  Speaker 5: about that. But indium transmits the heat of your finger
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  Speaker 5: through the glass, and so the glass is impregnated with Indian.
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  Speaker 5: Right now, now, I'm going to upset your listeners because
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  Speaker 5: the US produces zero indium and China produces the largest
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  Speaker 5: part of the world's indian. So you know, our phones
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  Speaker 5: don't work. You know, the back part of the house
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  Speaker 5: doesn't work. The interface between your finger and your phone
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  Speaker 5: screen doesn't work. The US has to get busy and
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  Speaker 5: now developing these these things. Economics is one thing. If
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  Speaker 5: I have to buy you know, if the speakers on
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  Speaker 5: my you know, audio set use Chinese rare earths, I mean,
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  Speaker 5: you know, okay, I'm going to buy them. They're going
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  Speaker 5: to set the price. But if it's for our fighters,
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  Speaker 5: if it's for our missiles, I mean, this is not
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  Speaker 5: this is just not tenable. So to have that level
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  Speaker 5: of dependence when you have the materials right with access
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  Speaker 5: to the materials.
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  Speaker 3: The materials and company graphite one. I said with tongue
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  Speaker 3: in cheek prior to you joining us, Dan, because I'm
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  Speaker 3: chicken and I didn't want you to hear me say it,
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  Speaker 3: but I said, they're not it's not a new golf
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  Speaker 3: club on the you know, on the PGA tour. Yea
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  Speaker 3: Dustin Rhodes is not swinging the new graphite one. So
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  Speaker 3: talk about the graphite part of what you do, and
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  Speaker 3: don't get back into the rarer earth elements because I
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  Speaker 3: absolutely I'm thinking pencils I'm making, you know, the rudimentary
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  Speaker 3: stuff that you know, somebody who should put the sharp
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  Speaker 3: objects down understands is made out of graphite. You know
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  Speaker 3: how prevalent is that side of your business. And I'm
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  Speaker 3: fascinated a little bit by how much you were doing
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  Speaker 3: with that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, and it is everywhere again. So now you
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  Speaker 5: can just the whole thing. You can kind of illustrate
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  Speaker 5: right off your phone.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 5: So the battery, the lithium ion battery. I guess lithium
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  Speaker 5: had a better PR firm or something. But lithium ion
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  Speaker 5: battery has a handful of materials in it, and on
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  Speaker 5: one side of the battery, the anode side of the
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  Speaker 5: battery is graphite. It's really almost all graphite on that side,
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  Speaker 5: so rare earths are in your phone. The graphite is
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  Speaker 5: also in everything that's rechargeable. Right, So if you have
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  Speaker 5: a run silent now you want to go right over
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  Speaker 5: to the defense side. You have a run silent drone.
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  Speaker 5: I want a drone that doesn't work based on you know,
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  Speaker 5: gasoline in it making a noise.
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  Speaker 3: I want it to be quiet.
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  Speaker 5: Well, you're lithium ion rechargeable is going to be quieter,
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  Speaker 5: and that's a good thing. That's probably going to have
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  Speaker 5: more range. That's a great thing. It can dwell and loiter,
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  Speaker 5: look down and see the bad guys. It can carry
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  Speaker 5: ordnance and look down, see the bad guys. Shoot the
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  Speaker 5: bad guys. Right, that's got graphite in it. We're buying
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  Speaker 5: it from China. So it is the same story replicating,
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  Speaker 5: you know, over and over again. The couple of ounces
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  Speaker 5: I guess of graphite in my cell phone battery than
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  Speaker 5: in an EV plate underneath your car is like the
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  Speaker 5: large piece of weight in in a car. When it
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  Speaker 5: comes to the the graphit there and you know, whether
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  Speaker 5: you're an EV fan or not, the defense applications and
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  Speaker 5: utilities on these things is inescapable.
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  Speaker 3: Well, And I'm not going to do this just to
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  Speaker 3: get bipartisan or to you know, make people feel warm
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  Speaker 3: and fuzzy. But I've always said, you know, as the
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  Speaker 3: green I've been on the air long enough where you know,
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  Speaker 3: green energy was not something that we discussed. And then
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  Speaker 3: people start saying, hey, we're going to try to do
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  Speaker 3: more solar panels, and Virginia we just changed our governor,
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  Speaker 3: and I was we had a conversation yesterday about how
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  Speaker 3: it's going to be all solar panels. It seems blanketing
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  Speaker 3: the state and I said, that's all well and good,
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  Speaker 3: but electricity isn't like rain. We can't just collect it all.
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  Speaker 3: Look at the failure of the solar in the Mojave Desert.
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  Speaker 3: If you can't make solar work in the Mohave Desert,
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  Speaker 3: and a lot of it has to do with the
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  Speaker 3: battery technology. So I'm fascinated before we get to the
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  Speaker 3: new and Max coming up, and we could talk some
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  Speaker 3: more the battery technology. How much have we advanced in
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  Speaker 3: the last ten years to storing this stuff through your
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  Speaker 3: graphite and through the rare earth elements there?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and the bottle You're absolutely right, Joe, the bottleneck
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  Speaker 5: is Look when the sun does shine, can you capture it?
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  Speaker 5: Can you store it? Can you move it through the grid.
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  Speaker 5: Those are the batteries. That's the graphite, right, and some
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  Speaker 5: other materials. It's lithium too, it's nickel too, it's cobalt,
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  Speaker 3: Yes, sorry, we have to. We have to go back
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  Speaker 3: because China has let's just say a casual relationship with
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  Speaker 3: a company like yours to go get your graphite? And
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  Speaker 5: all those those are equalizing. That's also a factor. If
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  Speaker 1: Joe Thomas, the second most famous Thomas in Charlottesville.
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  Speaker 6: Joe came up earlier.
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  Speaker 3: Somebody said that we were talking about Ben Franklin, and
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  Speaker 3: somebody positive, didn't he wind up in Blacksburg? I said, no,
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  Speaker 3: that's the other guy who named Franklin, and he might as.
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  Speaker 6: Well have flown the kite and invented.
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  Speaker 3: The celebrations. They didn't get Metallica to come back to
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  Speaker 3: Blacksburg and play a spals show.
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  Speaker 6: They played Enter Sandman when he walked into the Castle
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  Speaker 6: Colisee in Prescot. Of course they did. You know, it
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  Speaker 6: was quite the show, and it would be easy to
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  Speaker 6: criticize and say over the top, but I think it shows,
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  Speaker 6: you know, Virginia Tech has has miirred been mired in
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: mediocrity pretty much ever since Bud Foster and Frank Weimer
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  Speaker 6: decided to take other, you know positions, Frank to watch
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  Speaker 6: his son and Bud to be the administrative you know,
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  Speaker 6: a big time assistant athletic director, assistant Dewic Babcock. But
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: they did a lot of things great and there were
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: a lot of good explanations you'll hear this weekend, Bud
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: and I will record Foster and Friends. I don't mind
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: giving away a little secret. We record today. I can't
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: wait because Bud promised me that after the Franklin was named.
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: He didn't say Franklin, but he says, after we select
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: our head coach, we all knew. But he said he
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: would break down what happened within the Committee Hall, which
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: is going to be just a fabulous interview. I'm going
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: to treat him like a guest. I told him, I said,
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: you're a guest this week. You are not a host,
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: and it's going to be really good.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: How many how many stations are you on? Of course,
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: your Matt Foster and Friends is on our flank, ship state.
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: Major market. We're not really in northern Virginia yet, but
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: we've got the whole sixty four corridor, you know, from Norfolk, Richmond, Harrisonburg,
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: you of course Charlottesville. Yeah, we're we're you know, pretty
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: good blanket coverage down in Lynchburg and then of course
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: the the River Valley down there. So yeah, we we've
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: got a nice little footprint. And uh, it's it's just,
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: you know, it's gratifying to be able to because I
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: just doing a podcast. Now. That word even makes me
• 30:22
  Speaker 6: my skin crawl a little bit, you know, Oh he
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: has a podcast. Oh great, Well tell the six people
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: that are listening, you know, hello. So I now our
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: numbers are good. I don't want to brag about our
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: numbers and where we are and what we've done. I
• 30:35
  Speaker 6: don't want to say that because to me, radio was
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: the valuable piece of and I would know I wanted
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: to be on stations.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: So well, you know, here's the thing in one of
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: the legends in talk programming spoken word program I mean
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  Speaker 3: is what the cool kids call it, h to cover
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: you know, NPR and sports and what we do here.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: Holland Cook once said to an audience. He said, the
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  Speaker 6: And what did we learn? And I can speak for
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: you two, and you and I are close to the
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: same age. I think I'm a little older. But it's
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: when it's in your blood, it stays in your blood.
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  Speaker 6: It never really leaves. And that's what I try to
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: tell you know, the kids in class.
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  Speaker 3: But that's why the Blood Bank won't take my donations anymore.
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: Still in well speaking, yeah, speaking of being in your blood. Okay,
• 31:55
  Speaker 6: James Franklin's a coach, a coach's coach, a player's coach,
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: and you know it we use to describe. I think
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: about a year ago, you and I had the conversation
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: about winning the press conference. It's a it's an old cliche.
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: It means deliver the message, the right win, show charisma, clay,
• 32:10
  Speaker 6: you know, calm the critics, excite the fans, and all
• 32:14
  Speaker 6: those boxes were checked by Franklin yesterday. As I said,
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: his media training, his voice. Uh, he could someday, you know,
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: be a representative or you know, to run a country
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: or a small country or something. But one of the
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: first things I noticed, I took it. You know, my
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: my little notebook has got several notes, you know, because
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: I had to have a lot of the sound bites
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: and stuff from the press conference yesterday. Is his his
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: his love for Brent Pry and you know they had
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: been together for so long and he broke down, you know,
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: he got really emotional. Now I edited some of this
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: because the audience bailed him out when he couldn't. But
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: you'll you'll hear it in his voice. And I did
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: cut out a lot of Craig because this would have
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: been like a minute and a half sound bite. But anyway,
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: one of the first things that Franklin did was talking
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: about his relationship with Brent Prye.
• 33:02
  Speaker 16: I'd like to acknowledge Brent Prye. Sorry, I always say
• 33:07
  Speaker 16: I'm not gonna get emotional him that I get emotional.
• 33:09
  Speaker 16: Brent Prye is a good friend. Brent's dad was my
• 33:12
  Speaker 16: offensive coordinator in college. I've known Brent for over thirty years.
• 33:16
  Speaker 27: Brent's first year coaching was my senior year at the
• 33:21
  Speaker 27: Harvard of the Pennsylvania State Athletic Conference East Strousberg Universe.
• 33:25
  Speaker 7: I know you guys are all very.
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: Familiar with it. And then Brent and his family.
• 33:28
  Speaker 27: Was with me at Vanderbilt all three years, and then
• 33:31
  Speaker 27: I think for our first seven years at penn State.
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: And so one of the things that I enjoyed too
• 33:39
  Speaker 6: yesterday was with Babcock finally getting off his note cards
• 33:42
  Speaker 6: for a little while and talk about media training. And
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: I think it's a great ad, don't get me wrong,
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: but I'd like to spend a few minutes with him
• 33:49
  Speaker 6: and you know, how to handle a voice in the
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: speech a little bit. But anyway, he finally told because
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: one of the writers asked him about, you know, what
• 33:58
  Speaker 6: was the committee's focus? Where did you you know? And
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: he breaks down exactly what they were looking for. And
• 34:03
  Speaker 6: you know, they started with a field of one hundred
• 34:06
  Speaker 6: and thirty seven coaches, of course, and they knew that,
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: you know, ninety of them were not going to be
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: you know, moving or moving on or whatever, so they
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: just tried to recognize who were the coaches that could move,
• 34:16
  Speaker 6: who were the coaches that are available, And naturally, Franklin
• 34:19
  Speaker 6: went right to the top. He was number one with
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: a bullet according to Billboard charts, So it was pretty
• 34:23
  Speaker 6: simple why Franklin? But anywhere, we're going to talk about
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: that this weekend because his criteria was rather interesting and
• 34:31
  Speaker 6: broke down. But anyway, we'll get to that over the weekend.
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: And as far as doing things the right way, you know,
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: Franklin has always counseled his players aggressively, but he's also
• 34:44
  Speaker 6: loved him as well.
• 34:46
  Speaker 27: There's no shortcuts in building a program, and I think
• 34:49
  Speaker 27: we have a track record that shows that, and I
• 34:52
  Speaker 27: know that was important to all the men on this
• 34:55
  Speaker 27: stage as well.
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: Winning is really important.
• 34:58
  Speaker 27: There's nobody that understands importance of winning more than me.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: But there's also a way to do.
• 35:03
  Speaker 27: It with character and integrity, and we'll continue to do
• 35:06
  Speaker 27: that and represent Virginia Tech the right way both on
• 35:09
  Speaker 27: and off the field.
• 35:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he's he already called even before the press conference.
• 35:13
  Speaker 6: It was like Tuesday nine or Monday night. He already
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: called like forty the top players in Virginia. Uh, and
• 35:18
  Speaker 6: already said, hey, you know, you need to talk to us,
• 35:20
  Speaker 6: and and so on and so forth. He went to
• 35:22
  Speaker 6: the Old Dominion Game last week and actually tailgated for
• 35:25
  Speaker 6: the first time. He admitted he had a beer and
• 35:27
  Speaker 6: David Teal was there, you know, who's one of the
• 35:30
  Speaker 6: top writers in the state of Virginia forever. And uh.
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: But David Teal tried to get a comment. Franklin says, David,
• 35:37
  Speaker 6: I can't talk to you, so, you know, get away
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: from our sideline. I think when they when they talked
• 35:43
  Speaker 6: at the Old Dominion Game. But but Franklin is, yeah,
• 35:46
  Speaker 6: I think, you know, he is very very genuine, He
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: is very committed, and he you know, I think we do.
• 35:53
  Speaker 6: He doesn't Fish doesn't play golf, he reads, he studies,
• 35:57
  Speaker 6: you know, the media things and TV and short videos
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: and and does a lot of that. But he has
• 36:03
  Speaker 6: pretty much a gold card. With their private plane, He's
• 36:07
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• 36:09
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• 36:11
  Speaker 6: So uh, but you know, all schools, I'm not saying
• 36:14
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• 36:16
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• 36:19
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  Speaker 3: Really, you know, you know this is this is why
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  Speaker 3: we don't have nice stuff and we get these folks
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  Speaker 3: like Dan McGarty from Graphite one and then you know,
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  Speaker 3: you use the seven Dwarves as the entry, well being
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  Speaker 3: that graphite one does dig dig dig, dig, dig, dig
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  Speaker 3: dig in a mine a whole day through uh and
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  Speaker 3: they've discovered a huge deposit of rare earth elements underneath
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  Speaker 3: the ground in Alaska. Dan been kind enough to hang
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  Speaker 3: on and talk a little bit about these applications with us.
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  Speaker 3: It was a big story yesterday and you made you know.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously the Epstein files will get back into that. No,
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  Speaker 3: But the Epstein files? But what does it mean? You know?
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  Speaker 3: And I think as an abstract Karen writes in that
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  Speaker 3: the question still goes back to what is the government
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  Speaker 3: supposed to be doing protecting our rights? And are they
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  Speaker 3: doing that with these releases, with all these other things?
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  Speaker 3: Are they protecting our rights? And Karen will get into
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  Speaker 3: all that also. I want to circle back to I
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  Speaker 3: like this one from Tampa where Charlene is listening this morning,
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  Speaker 3: You know, yea, what part of we're going to take
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  Speaker 3: Shirley or not, but you know you said it pretty
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  Speaker 3: well because that'll be Oh, we didn't realize that we
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  Speaker 3: money for our campaign because our campaign was an emergency
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  Speaker 3: they weren't working out of a FEMA trailer while they
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  Speaker 3: were doing it. They were probably paying for pretty nice
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  Speaker 3: digs for their campaign headquarters. But Don writes in your
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  Speaker 3: point about how many people could have benefited from that
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: five million dollars is spot on, Joe. So we'll get
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  Speaker 3: back into all of that stuff. Mark Peak, our our
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  Speaker 3: PV chair is visited with me and we talk about
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: light the tires and kick the fires. He did, but
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: Dan spend a little of time talking about what these
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: rare earths are the category, but they are defined.
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  Speaker 5: They're not just like a random The critical critical mineral
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: list is defined by country. But the rare earths are
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: literally on the periodic table, you know, established established elements.
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  Speaker 3: It's really cut our cane.
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  Speaker 5: On the other hand, I'm talking to you, you know,
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  Speaker 5: from a smartphone from my iPhone the.
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  Speaker 16: U.
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  Speaker 5: When I put my phone on vibrate, those are rare
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: earth magnets causing my phone to vibrate right in the
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: same way vacuum cleaner, a power tool, an EV battery
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: when you're if you have an EV and it goes
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: from zero to sixty in two seconds, rare earth magnets
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  Speaker 5: are powering that movement. And now where it gets absolutely essential.
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  Speaker 5: If you're flying Eno F thirty five stealth fighter, high
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: performance rare earth magnets. If you're hoping that your Tomahawk
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  Speaker 5: cruise missile hits target to within you know, twelve inches,
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: those it is being steered by rare earth magnets. So
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: you're like three hundred times more powerful than a fridge magnet.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I was going to say these are not to
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: be trifled with. This isn't you know, but you know
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: these things are so essential to everything we use in life.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: Dan McGroarty is on with us from graph I One.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: China dominates in the story we had yesterday detailing ninety
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: to ninety three percent of rare earth elements on the
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: marketplace coming through or at the behest of China. You know,
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: how much is there? Do you have any grasp how
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: much is up there in Alaska? Because the story seems
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: to be promoting the idea that we could all of
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: a sudden break China's grip on the rare earth element marketplace.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely so. So the graphite, if you will,
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  Speaker 5: the mine up there, the Graphite Creek mine is likely
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: to be one hundred year mine. The company has drilled
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: out about twelve percent of the mind of the deposit
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: so far, wow, and is positing twenty years off the
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: twelve percent, So even saying one hundred years is probably conservative.
• 49:31
  Speaker 5: That means if the graphite is substantial enough that it's
• 49:35
  Speaker 5: paying for this as an operation, and the rare earths
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: are a chaser, you've got one hundred year supply of
• 49:41
  Speaker 5: for earth. Now, the company doesn't know the rare earths
• 49:44
  Speaker 5: that there's seventeen of them. Some are more rare than others.
• 49:49
  Speaker 5: A subset of them is used in the magnets, others
• 49:51
  Speaker 5: are used in the laser dopens. If you go get
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: an MRI and you hear that banging, those are rare
• 49:57
  Speaker 5: earth magnets. Sorry about that, but you know you're finding
• 49:59
  Speaker 5: out what with you or what's right with you? So
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: all of that now, if the US is dependent on
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: the Chinese supply for stealth, for the entire New F
• 50:10
  Speaker 5: series of fighters, for advanced weaponry, for every major weapons platform. Honestly,
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  Speaker 5: and I was a Department of Defense, you know back
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: in the day, this is a danger. This is you
• 50:24
  Speaker 5: cannot have a situation. As you cited, the US is
• 50:27
  Speaker 5: ninety three percent dependent on these materials coming from China. Recently,
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: your listener's probably heard in the trade back and forth
• 50:34
  Speaker 5: with China. You know, the Chinese had choked off rare
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: earth supply and then they we got like a kind
• 50:40
  Speaker 5: of a reprieve that the President negotiated, But that wasn't
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: really a solution because I think you know, people talk
• 50:48
  Speaker 5: about supply chains when it comes to the rare earth.
• 50:50
  Speaker 5: The Chinese have a supply leash. They can pop that
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: leash on us anytime they want. It's a very dangerous
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: place to be in well, and we learn so we
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: have to develop.
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  Speaker 3: These We learned about that during COVID too, when all
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: of a sudden, like yeah, you can't have any of
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: this stuff. You keep plenty of So several of my listeners,
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: being alert to this kind of stuff, have asked the question,
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: is there a danger of your deposit being award as
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: in like, oh, this is protected, you can't you can't
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: go get it anymore. Stop stop looking there.
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  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 51:22
  Speaker 5: Fortunately, it's on state and private land in the state
• 51:26
  Speaker 5: of Alaska. Alaska is a state that understands extraction and
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: responsible extraction, and there's a thing in the federal law
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: called FAST forty one that's geared towards the forty first
• 51:37
  Speaker 5: part of the US Code Federal Code, and Graphight one's
• 51:41
  Speaker 5: deposit was listed earlier this year on fast forty one dashboard.
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  Speaker 3: You can look it up.
• 51:47
  Speaker 5: And see what the progression is and it's on a
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: path to work through the permitting process in thirteen months,
• 51:53
  Speaker 5: which was kind of It's extremely unusual. Now graphite and
• 51:59
  Speaker 5: the rare earths have both been designated they're critical minerals
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: as were talked about, But there's a thing called the
• 52:05
  Speaker 5: Defense Production Act dating back to the Korean War, and
• 52:08
  Speaker 5: both graphite and the rivers have been declared Defense Production
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: Act Title three, which means quote unquote essential to the
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: national defense. So as your listeners raising anwar or other
• 52:22
  Speaker 5: anti extractive measures right or concerns at these two materials,
• 52:30
  Speaker 5: even within the bigger category of critical minerals, have been
• 52:32
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• 52:36
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