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Ep. 60 - The Mental Game of Golf with Colin Salema · Beyond the Paw - Clemson Athletics

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  Speaker 1: Hello, everyone. Welcome back to another episode of Beyond the Paw.
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  Speaker 1: I'm your host, Grace LaCrosse, alongside Ashley Pearson, and we
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  Speaker 1: are pumped for today's episode.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. There's a lot of things happening right now.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: In the world.
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  Speaker 3: In the world. In Clemson. College athletics.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Pro sports.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. We have first home football game.
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  Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I love a good home football game.
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  Speaker 3: There's really nothing like it.
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  Speaker 1: I know the atmosphere in Clemson is unlike anything.
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  Speaker 3: I always joke. I'm like, if there's a blade of grass,
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  Speaker 3: there is someone on it. It's so true. There's a
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  Speaker 3: square inch of land. There's somebody on it preparing for
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  Speaker 3: this game.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's crazy how they pack people in here to tailgate.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I always I'm kind of like, where do you all live?
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  Speaker 3: Where do you all come in from? Yeah, that's so true.
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  Speaker 1: And I think the funny thing, too, is when you
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  Speaker 1: see like a truck and they'll have just a giant
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  Speaker 1: life sized tiger just sitting on the top of it.
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  Speaker 3: Where did you actually get that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And it's like, why?
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  Speaker 3: Or do you see that?
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  Speaker 1: Why not?
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  Speaker 3: Why not? The tiger tails that people will do in
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  Speaker 3: the trunk of their car.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. It's a little. Yes.
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  Speaker 3: It's commitment.
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  Speaker 2: It is.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm going to do that, but
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  Speaker 3: I can appreciate. Oh, 100 percent. Yeah. But it's fun, too.
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  Speaker 3: I think everyone this time of year before football season,
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  Speaker 3: once it starts, this time of year is just figuring
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  Speaker 3: out what they're going to wear.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh.
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  Speaker 3: How are you doing in that?
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  Speaker 1: You know, this is probably my worst year yet of it,
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  Speaker 1: to be honest. My freshman, sophomore, junior year, it was
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  Speaker 1: all summer. I was slowly collecting things. I'd see something orange,
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  Speaker 1: something purple. Buy it. I got to have it. This year, though,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's because I've been buying a lot more
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  Speaker 1: business clothes. And so I've been having to reach into
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  Speaker 1: a different market that I'm like, now I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to spend my money on all the purple and orange stuff.
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  Speaker 1: But the nice thing about being on a team and
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  Speaker 1: just having friends in general is we're all just wearing
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  Speaker 1: each other's stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Swapping.
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  Speaker 3: That is so fun.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So it's nice to have like multiple closets. Yes. Or
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  Speaker 1: like I'll wear something one week and somebody will be like,
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  Speaker 1: that was really cute. Can I wear it next week?
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  Speaker 3: And they'll probably do it totally different. They might do
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  Speaker 3: it the same, but it's a whole new outfit.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, 100%. Or you pair it with a different jean.
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  Speaker 3: And I think we have a good mix at Clemson
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  Speaker 3: where you do see a good amount of people that
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  Speaker 3: might be in athleisure or a Clemson t-shirt and jeans.
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  Speaker 3: Or they might be going to their senior homecoming is
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  Speaker 3: what it looks like. I'm like, okay, we have the
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  Speaker 3: whole spectrum here.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, 100%. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But it is fun.
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  Speaker 1: But it's definitely different in the South compared to the North.
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  Speaker 1: Like I grew up being... a wisconsin badger fan because
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  Speaker 1: both my parents went there okay so i'd been to
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  Speaker 1: a ton of football games um up in wisconsin right
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  Speaker 1: so football season it's cold freezing up there so you're
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  Speaker 1: really not thinking about looking cute no you're thinking you're
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  Speaker 1: just thinking how can i stay alive like that's realistically
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  Speaker 1: what you're thinking about and so yeah you're layering you're
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  Speaker 1: wearing leggings under the sweatpants with a jacket and a
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  Speaker 1: blanket on top of it.
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  Speaker 3: That is really different yeah OK, so Wisconsin, did you
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  Speaker 3: grow up watching any professional football teams or different? What
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  Speaker 3: sports did you watch growing up? Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Huge Packers fan.
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  Speaker 3: OK.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. Like I had a cheese head and everything.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So I'm super pumped for NFL season to start.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: We're here.
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  Speaker 1: Packers. Yeah. I mean, I watch every Sunday or Monday
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  Speaker 1: or Thursday, depending on when they're playing. So, but like
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  Speaker 1: for me, I love the fall because it gives me
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  Speaker 1: an event on a Sunday because Sundays can be a
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  Speaker 1: little scary at times when you're looking at the Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: Scaries are real. Um, and so when you're looking at
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  Speaker 1: the week ahead, right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But I need something on Sunday to keep me grounded.
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  Speaker 1: And that's a Packers game.
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  Speaker 3: Even if it's just on and you're doing stuff in
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  Speaker 3: the background.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Or it's just nice. I was talking to someone about
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  Speaker 3: that even with just like college game day. Just turning
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  Speaker 3: it on and cleaning the house or doing different things.
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  Speaker 3: But it's on and it's there. There's a level of
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  Speaker 3: comfort with it. I agree.
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  Speaker 1: You know?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. And I think maybe you're getting into the fall.
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  Speaker 1: So it's darker earlier.
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  Speaker 3: And so the natural... You know, wanting to feel cozy
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  Speaker 3: and warm inside and have something on and all of that.
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  Speaker 3: I think it all plays into it. So then you've
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  Speaker 3: been to Packers games?
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  Speaker 1: I've been to a couple Packers games. Not as many
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  Speaker 1: as I've wanted to go to.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But it gets tough that time of year for sure. Freezing.
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  Speaker 1: It is so cold.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It's so cold.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. But that's the thing. I do miss being home
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  Speaker 1: and we had a fireplace and just watching a Packers
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  Speaker 1: game with the fireplace going. And you've got, you know,
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  Speaker 1: my mom would make chili a lot or chicken noodle
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  Speaker 1: soup or some kind of game day food that's like cozy,
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  Speaker 1: hot chocolate, something.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And having the fire going. And it's just a vibe.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Put a candle on pumpkin spice. Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Pumpkin spice lattes are out. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely. I think. I think about that too. For me,
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  Speaker 3: it's baseball season. It's different like growing up in a
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  Speaker 3: baseball household. So I have different memories associated to that.
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  Speaker 3: So I never grew up really with a specific NFL
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  Speaker 3: team that we followed. It was just always whatever game
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  Speaker 3: was on, whatever the big game was, we were just
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  Speaker 3: watching it. But yeah, a chili, a soup, something. Everyone's
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  Speaker 3: just hanging out into the week. It's so fun. But
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  Speaker 3: then I think being able to do that now with
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  Speaker 3: friends or people here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It's probably fun. Does your team do anything like that?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. A lot of times we like to get together
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  Speaker 1: and have little watch parties.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So that's and it'll be different, especially because sometimes games are,
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  Speaker 1: you know, during the day. Yeah. At night. So maybe
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  Speaker 1: you do dinner and a movie or not a movie
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  Speaker 1: dinner and watch the game or you have people over
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  Speaker 1: for lunch. Whatever, and then you go downtown somewhere and
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  Speaker 1: watch it.
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  Speaker 3: That's always fun, too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like just a little restaurant, nice restaurant, and watch
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  Speaker 1: the game. It's always fun.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and everyone still shows up for those when people
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  Speaker 3: are out in town, and that's always fun to see, too,
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  Speaker 3: even if we are away. Exactly. And so that is fun, too.
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  Speaker 1: And we have team tailgates, too, when it's home.
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  Speaker 3: I do see you all.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we do.
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  Speaker 3: That's fun, too.
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  Speaker 1: It is so fun. Even if you don't go into
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  Speaker 1: the game, to.
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  Speaker 3: Be at the tailgate. I mean, a lot do. That
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  Speaker 3: stadium is very full.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But which is great. And then some people don't. And
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  Speaker 3: I never realized that was a thing. I didn't grow
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  Speaker 3: up tailgating. Really?
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 3: Southern California, it's hard. There's so many professional teams and
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  Speaker 3: so many things available. I don't know that fans really
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  Speaker 3: get super attached to one team.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Versus like if you grew up in Clemson your whole life,
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  Speaker 3: you're going to be a tiger.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You go to football games. Well, there's no other professional
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  Speaker 1: sports teams.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: So it's like you have to choose a college to
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  Speaker 1: be a fan of.
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  Speaker 3: So moving here six years ago for me, I was like,
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  Speaker 3: oh my gosh, this is a way of life.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: This is different for all of our sports, really.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, 100%.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, this is incredible, which I love about being
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  Speaker 3: in a small college town. Just the way the community
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  Speaker 3: shows up to your meets to softball games to football
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  Speaker 3: to basketball all of it i'm like this is so
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  Speaker 3: so special yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes too like our gym where it's located right it's
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  Speaker 1: right next to lacrosse where they they play their actual
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  Speaker 1: games yeah so we don't have meets in our gym
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  Speaker 1: we have it at little john yeah um but we'll
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  Speaker 1: have a hard time like there'll be days where they
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  Speaker 1: say you can't park up there because they're they're tailgating
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  Speaker 1: for lacrosse games And that's actually going on.
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  Speaker 2: And I, yeah, they are.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm like, let's do it. Let's go. I love this. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And we have one of the most, I mean, we
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  Speaker 3: do have the most beautiful lacrosse stadium.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, a hundred percent. And it's right up there, like
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  Speaker 1: by the water, all of those up there.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, what, what sport do you enjoy getting out and watching?
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  Speaker 1: Watching. I mean, other than football, I've honestly gotten to
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  Speaker 1: watching golf.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I went to the Masters this past spring.
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  Speaker 3: That's so cool.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was one of the coolest experiences I've ever
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  Speaker 1: been a part.
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  Speaker 3: Of, for sure. I would love to just do that
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  Speaker 3: one day. Yeah, it's like a bucket list. Make sure
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  Speaker 3: you go.
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  Speaker 1: Because you go there, too, and people talk about it.
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  Speaker 1: And then when you really go there, it's like you're
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  Speaker 1: entering a simulation because you can't have your phones. And
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  Speaker 1: everything is pristine and perfect and, like, to– How they
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  Speaker 1: have each hole, like they each have a different flower
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  Speaker 1: and like a different plant that is on each hole.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what they're named after. And just the way
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  Speaker 1: that they've curated it, it's beautiful.
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  Speaker 3: That's amazing.
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  Speaker 1: You don't know what time it is at any point
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  Speaker 1: unless you have a watch. And I don't wear a watch.
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  Speaker 1: So it was really like.
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  Speaker 3: I really don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I just really entered a different world. And I came
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  Speaker 1: out of it like.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Feeling like a different human. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: So you've taken a liking to golf?
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  Speaker 1: I have taken a liking to golf.
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  Speaker 3: Do you practice it? Do you play it?
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  Speaker 1: What do you, what does this look like?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Over the summer, I took some lessons and I feel
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  Speaker 1: like I've gotten my swing pretty good to the point
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  Speaker 1: where like, I look like I know how to play.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's half of it. Hey, it's just do it.
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  Speaker 1: But I love getting dressed up in my little golf outfits.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I've kind of got that happening here.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, that's sweet.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's been a lot of fun, though, getting
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  Speaker 1: into it. And definitely something I want to do after
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  Speaker 1: gymnastics is over. But I'm really excited because today's episode,
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  Speaker 1: we've got Colin Salima. He's on the men's golf team.
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  Speaker 1: So we get to talk about it with him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, let's get to it.
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  Speaker 1: Let's do it. Colin is entering his junior year at
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  Speaker 1: Clemson and is coming off a really strong sophomore season.
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  Speaker 1: At the NCAA Arizona Regional, he put together the best
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  Speaker 1: tournament of his Clemson career. shooting seven under and finishing
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  Speaker 1: tied for 13th, including a career-best 66 in the second round.
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  Speaker 1: He also had 39 consecutive bogey-free holes during the tournament.
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  Speaker 1: In 2025, he won the Carolinas Amateur by six shots
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  Speaker 1: and this past summer qualified for the U.S. Amateur, shooting
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  Speaker 1: 68 in the first round and totaling eight birdies throughout
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  Speaker 1: the tournament. Before Clemson, he was named the Charlotte Observer's
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  Speaker 1: Golfer of the Year and earned all regional honors. Welcome
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  Speaker 1: to the show, Collin.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. Thank you. Honored to be on here.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. Super excited to have you on. So we're going
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  Speaker 1: to start you how we start every show, and that's
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  Speaker 1: with rapid fire questions.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Are you ready?
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  Speaker 2: I think so. Okay. You have to be.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You have no option, actually.
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  Speaker 2: I'm ready then.
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  Speaker 3: I'm ready then.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Favorite TV show or movie?
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  Speaker 2: Right now, I'm watching Entourage, and it's definitely, definitely up there.
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  Speaker 1: I could have predicted that. Um, song that is on
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  Speaker 1: heavy rotation right now.
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  Speaker 2: Ooh, that's a good question. Um, we'll go, uh, over
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  Speaker 2: the hills and far away by Led Zeppelin. Wow. Wow.
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  Speaker 2: It's my go-to song. Uh, the art during cryo. Okay. Ooh.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. Okay. Favorite food.
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  Speaker 2: Pasta.
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  Speaker 1: Favorite dessert.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, churros.
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  Speaker 1: What is your favorite club?
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  Speaker 2: Favorite club? I love my putter.
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  Speaker 1: Ooh.
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  Speaker 2: I love putting. Unpopular opinion.
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  Speaker 1: I was going to say, I feel like I don't
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  Speaker 1: hear that very often. Favorite course you've ever played?
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  Speaker 2: Probably we played MacArthur last year. We went down to
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  Speaker 2: Florida for our team trip, and I'd say that one
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  Speaker 2: was probably the coolest.
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  Speaker 1: Is that the one with the milk jug?
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  Speaker 2: Milk jug, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You're going to have to tell me about that.
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  Speaker 1: We'll circle back.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Match play or stroke play?
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  Speaker 2: I love match play. Okay. You know, don't have great
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  Speaker 2: history there. I think it's still, it's way more fun. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. First thing you do in the morning?
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  Speaker 2: I feel like I, as soon as I get up,
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  Speaker 2: I'm like in the shower within like three minutes of
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  Speaker 2: waking up.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. It's like, I'm up and out. I got to
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  Speaker 2: wake myself up.
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  Speaker 3: Cold water?
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes. Okay. It's kind of weird, but.
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  Speaker 3: It's supposed to help you.
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  Speaker 1: Science.
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  Speaker 2: Science.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Three things you can't live without.
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  Speaker 2: My golf clubs, my phone, and say sneakers.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, okay. That was unexpected.
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  Speaker 2: I love sneakers.
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  Speaker 1: If you could have one superpower, what would it be?
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  Speaker 2: Probably teleportation.
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  Speaker 3: Where would you be right now?
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  Speaker 2: Probably somewhere where it's a little cooler than here, but
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  Speaker 2: also somewhere that's like nice.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Like a beach that's like 80 degrees.
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  Speaker 3: I can't be mad about that.
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  Speaker 1: No, I think that's the perfect weather and the perfect
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  Speaker 1: place to be. That's great.
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  Speaker 3: Except we're in Tigertown. Tigertown is the perfect place to
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  Speaker 3: be too.
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  Speaker 2: True.
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  Speaker 1: That's true. And then best vacation you've ever been on. Ooh.
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  Speaker 2: That's a tough one. Um, I went to Siesta Key
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  Speaker 2: with my family and that was really awesome.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that's fun.
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  Speaker 2: That was really cool.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. We'll, we'll end with the rapid fire questions, but
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  Speaker 1: I guess for Ashley, we'll circle back on this milk jug,
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  Speaker 1: the milk jug. Do you want to explain further?
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  Speaker 2: You know, I really don't know the history behind it. Um,
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  Speaker 2: I'm really big into like golf course logos. I love
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  Speaker 2: like collecting like hats and shirts with like cool logos.
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  Speaker 2: And it's like, I think it's in the top 10,
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  Speaker 2: like Highly rated logos in the world. So I need
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  Speaker 2: to tap in. It's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 3: So it's their logo. It is. It's a milk jug.
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  Speaker 1: So, okay, this is the thing that I know about
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  Speaker 1: golfers is that they're very big on their logos. And
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  Speaker 1: there's a term that's been coined, peacocking. Okay. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if you've ever heard of that. But it's like
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: when you're out and about and you're wearing, like, special logos,
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: they call people a peacock, like you're peacocking because you're
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: showing it off.
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: And they do that with their feathers, right?
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: Yes. Okay.
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: I've never heard of that.
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: You've never heard of that?
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: Never heard of that.
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: That's Jacob's big thing is peacocking.
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: Specifically, he loves to be a peacock in the business
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: building because finance, bro.
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: You know, you got to show it off.
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: So does he wear his milk jug hat over there?
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: He wears his milk jug hat and his logo. This
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: is so fascinating.
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: I have some research to do apparently.
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: So what's, like, your favorite logo? Is that your favorite
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: logo you've ever.
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: It's definitely up there. Probably between that one or... I'm
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: trying to think. What else? Jacob has a hat from
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: Pine Valley. That's another, like, super, super cool logo.
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: But, I mean, there's a bunch. But I'd say the
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: milk jug's probably my favorite. Yeah.
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: I just think it's kind of unique.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: I like that. It's fun.
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: And then, too, their tea boxes are... Like milkman cars.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: What are those called?
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: Milk trucks. Milk trucks.
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. So that's super cute. Okay.
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: I'm learning a lot of new things right now.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: So it'll be like an educational episode for you. Yeah,
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: it is.
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: It already is.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: It's been a couple of minutes. So I'll be learning
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: more about Colin.
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: Exactly. Which we're so excited to do, Colin.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: Let's dive into some questions. Let's start with some golf questions.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: What do you believe is the strongest part of your
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: game right now?
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: Probably my putting. I mean, I said I love my putter.
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: I work on it a lot. And like whenever I
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: don't hit the ball great or have a great day,
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: like doing whatever, I feel like the putter's always there
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: to back me up.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: So it's definitely a good part of the game to
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: be good at. Yeah.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: And now walk me through this because I feel like
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: the conception about golf, I don't know if it's just me,
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: but like I don't necessarily understand how practice works. Because
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: you'd think about just like going and playing like 18
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: holes and putting or hitting at the driving range, but like,
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: I know there's probably other drills and type of stuff
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: that you do. Cause like for us, like we have
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: so many different drills, like you can do things with
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: different mats and like, how does that work with golf?
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: Well, when we're practicing like individually, it's kind of boring
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: because we're doing like the same thing over and over again,
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: but you kind of have to find like games to
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: do like with pressure that kind of simulate what you're
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: doing on the golf course. Doing, like, group practice is
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: a little easier because you get to, like, compete with
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: each other. So that's what we'll do, like, at team practice.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: But just, like, being by ourself, it's kind of like,
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: for example, like, when I'm putting, I'll pick, like, a
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: six-footer and, like, say, okay, I've got to make five
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: or ten of these in a row before I can
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: move on. And just, like, doing stuff, like, challenging myself,
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: and then the time flies. Yeah. So just, like, mini
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: little things like that, games, kind of keep your mind busy.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like little mini games.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Mini golf mini mini golf no I do love some
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: mini golf I'm not gonna lie Colin would probably beat
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: us all oh 100% have you ever have you been
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: to some of the courses that like have fun little
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: like windmills and like all the fun little like I
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: don't know because there's some that go there and they
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: just try to mimic like a regular golf course like
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: a regular and I feel like there's one by Clemson
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: that does that but I like the ones that have
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: all the obstacles and fun things.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, those are fun. Definitely switches it up from the basic,
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: you know, just grass greens with all the slope and
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: stuff makes it a little bit more interesting.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: Do you think that would help your game at all,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: playing extra mini golf?
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Probably not. Just, you know, with all the bumpers and
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: stuff that you could hit the ball off of.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: It's true.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: Not quite the same atmosphere, but it's still fun nonetheless.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Okay, on the flip side of things, what do you
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: think is the weakest part of your game right now?
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: At the moment, definitely my driver. Struggled a little bit
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: over the summer, but it's good to have things you
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: struggle with so you can improve them.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: That's true. And so when you're playing in a tournament
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: and you know that that is your weakest part of
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: your game or you're aware I have areas to improve,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: how do you then go into it and kind of
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: have to switch that off and put that aside and
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: be like, I just have to hit the best shot
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: that I can, even though you know that there's things
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: that aren't perfect.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah it's definitely a challenge it's all about like mental
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: at that point if you're struggling like with the physical
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: aspect it's it's all just about focusing on your process
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: and going through your routine and and like kind of
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: visualizing the shot you want to hit and at that
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: point you've done everything you can control sometimes it's easy
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: to get caught up in like the result and the
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: outcome of the shot when ultimately we don't really have
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: control over that so kind of just freeing up and
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: telling yourself that if you're doing everything you control, it's
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: just the best you can. And I experienced that a
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: couple of times in tournaments this summer where I knew
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: it wasn't going great and there were a lot of
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: tough tee shots out there on the course, but just
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: kind of forgetting about the physical and just going through
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: my routine and trusting that it's ultimately all you can do. Yeah.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: How hard is that to do?
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: It's tough. It is tough because you want so desperately
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: to like hold on to like the result because you
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: want a good result. You try forcing it, but then
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: that ultimately just makes it worse.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: So this is interesting because I mean, arguably golf and
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: gymnastics are two of probably the most mental sports when
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: you think of how you have to lock in in
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: a different way. Just it can be more individualized. And
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: so many steps and tiny little things that you have
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: to adjust, which that's not that that's not the case
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: for other things. But both of those sports can be
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: so mental and you really have to lock in. And
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: that's a whole other, you know, realm to get into
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: and have to lock in and realize I need to
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: trust my process. I need to trust my steps. Like
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: letting go of the mental is probably a whole other thing.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: Because it is so mental. You're thinking about all these things,
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: but then you have to go perform.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. And this is one thing, too. My dad
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: is a big golfer, as many people are. Golf tends
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: to be a lot of guys' hobbies and a lot
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: of girls' hobbies. And he's always told me gymnastics and
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: golf are the same. And growing up, I was like, no,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: that's not the case. Gymnastics is so much harder than
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: golf in my head. And then kind of being around
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: it and kind of trying to golf a little bit
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: more myself too, I realized, man, there are a lot
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: of things that cross over in terms of just the
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: mental side of things. And that is definitely one of them,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: of like having to go up and just throw everything
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: away in your brain of all the worries and the
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: doubts and just do it.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. Okay, so what originally drew you to golf?
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: when you were younger and growing up?
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Well, my family comes from like a hockey background. Like
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: my dad grew up playing hockey and like my whole
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: family from being up North, that was kind of a
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: big thing. But my grandpa played golf some and he
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: was the one that actually got me into it. And
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: so I started playing with my dad, but he first
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: got me like a plastic club when I was like two.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: So I was like whacking a little ball and I played,
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: I played just about every sport, but like golf was
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: the one I just kept coming back to. And I
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: got to give credit to my grandpa for getting me
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: into that. But kind of just grew it, started out
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: with the plastic club and then eventually got some metal
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: clubs and just hitting balls around my front and backyard.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: And yeah, that's pretty much where it all started. Yeah.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: And have you ever like throughout your time, there's always
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: ups and downs and lulls of playing a sport. Had
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: a moment where you felt like burnt out or you
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: kind of lost your love for the sport?
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like everyone that plays a sport can
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: relate that like there are times where you really just
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: want to quit. And I feel like that's a, that's
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: like a common thing. If you're someone that spends every
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: single day, so many hours playing sport, cause it's just,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: it's just tough. It's tough dealing with like the highs
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: are great, but then the lows are pretty terrible.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: So yeah, totally.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah. There are a lot of times feel burnt out
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: and just need a break, but keep coming back every time.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Yep. And in those moments, like, how do you get
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: over that and decide to come back to it? Is
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: there anything that you do to kind of free up
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: just that burnout, I guess?
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: I feel like I tend to get burnout when I start, like,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: overcomplicating things. So I just remind myself, like, why I
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: started playing the game in the first place. And it's
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: to have fun. So just, like, getting back to having
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: fun and just going out playing with buddies, not really
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: making it super serious. It's the biggest thing because that
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: way it just helps you enjoy it and remind yourself
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: why you play the game.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really good. It's one thing like with our team,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: we have a bunch of different words that are like
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: our team core values. And one of them is purpose.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: And we just had our team retreat this past weekend.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: So we talked about the word purpose for about an hour.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: It's a singular word. What it means and why. you know,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: examples of that. And the big thing to us is
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: purpose is finding your why. And, um, it's kind of
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: what you said of like, why, why in the first
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: place did you start playing? Was it because it was fun?
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Was it because it was an outlet for you? Was
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: it because you wanted to prove to your younger self
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: that you could do it like what it might be?
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: And a lot of it for us too, is we,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: we look at pictures of ourselves when we were little
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: doing gymnastics and, really all we cared about was feeling
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: like we were flying and didn't have all the strings attached.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: And so every time that you have a bad day,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: you go back to that and think about, you know,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: when I was little, it wasn't so serious. And really
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: it isn't because it's just a sport and there's so
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: much more to life than that.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Totally.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Totally right.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: So how would you say that you've changed since your
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: freshman year to now?
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: I used to be terrible at procrastinating, just everything, school, golf.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: I feel like I've gotten a lot better with like
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: my time management and like getting my homework done early
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: so I can go to bed at a reasonable time.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: And just overall, I feel like I've matured a lot.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: And like looking back at freshman year, there are so
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: many things that I really didn't think would have, like,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: happened here. Like, I've become a part of so many, like,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: cool groups and met so many people and really just
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: kind of enjoying the whole experience. But, yeah, really just
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: kind of maturing and learning how to manage time and
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: meet people.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good. And so you said you've gotten involved
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: in some things outside of golf, different leadership opportunities, I assume.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Do you want to talk about that a little bit?
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Sure, yeah. I've been very grateful to work alongside Ashley
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: in SAC and TLA, which has been super fun. Just
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: finished up the first section of that last spring and
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: looking forward to starting the second year of SAC on
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: tomorrow night. Pumped for that.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Pumped for that.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it's been great. I've gotten to meet a
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: lot of awesome student athletes and kind of just be
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: a part of a really cool program where I get
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: to be get to have my voice heard within the
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: student athlete body and kind of just voice my opinions
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: and work towards improving the student athlete experience, which has
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: been great. Yeah.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: And from my perspective, too, it's so fun to watch
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: all of our students. But, you know, Colin, too, just
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: step into that growth in like what you're talking about
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: and just maturing and taking on responsibility. And it's so
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: fun to see that in you all as you're actually
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: doing it. But then for you to be able to
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: sit here and name that you see it in yourself, too.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: It's like one thing for for me to see it
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: or someone who works here to identify it. But for
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: you to be able to do it for yourself and
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: then me, I'm like, yeah, that's so true. Like I've
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: seen you step into those things and seek leadership and
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: seek opportunities to make impact for other student athletes. And
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: so I can really appreciate that you can identify that
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: in your own experience, too. And I feel like this
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: is just the beginning for what you want to do
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: in those spaces, too. So that's been great.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the fun part is like when you're
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: sitting in those classrooms doing tiger leadership or SAC or
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: whatever it might be you're involved in, like you're not
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: actively feeling like anything is happening. You're like, OK, I'm
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: just taking in this information.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: But over time it's cool to actually see how you
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: can apply these things in real life. Cause I feel
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: like it always keeps coming back full circle, which I
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: think is the point of it. Um, but also just
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: to notice that growth within yourself. Yeah.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: And I think I was, um, I was kind of
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: struggling to put it into words, but like, like freshman year,
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: like to, to your previous question, freshman year, I could
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: have never seen myself stepping into like a leadership role
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: on the team. So that's like, like meeting you guys
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: and becoming part of those groups has really helped me. Like,
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: I feel like I can definitely step up and lead
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: the team this year and next year and kind of
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: be a good role model for some of the younger
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: kids on the team. Like somebody who's coming in and
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: where they're, where I was a couple of years ago
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: and kind of helping them. Cause like it wasn't easy,
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: like transitioning from high school to college, where you have
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: so much more responsibility and you have, way more like
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: time on your hands where it's not as structured and
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: even within like the golf team like having a lot
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: of stuff to do day to day it's still you
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: have so much time where you have to really like
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: plan out your day so helping helping people figure that
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: out and kind of just helping with things that weren't
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: easy a couple years ago so yeah yeah.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: That's the fun part about being an upperclassman I mean
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: I'm a senior now I remember when I was a
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: freshman and feeling like I didn't know what was going on.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: I thought I had it all figured out and then
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: I came here and I'm like, oof, I really don't
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: have it all figured out. But it's nice to have
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: people on the team that are upperclassmen that can kind
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: of show you the ropes. And I know you are
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: one of the older people on the team because you
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: don't have a lot of upperclassmen other than.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: I think we just have two seniors and then I'm
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: one of three juniors, but one of the seniors and
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: one of the juniors are transferred. So really kind of
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: not that many returning upperclassmen.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: What has that been like so far?
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: It's been really good. I feel like this is my
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: freshman year, the team gelled really well. But then I'd
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: say this year is even better. Every year it's kind
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: of gotten progressively better. All the guys on the team
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: this year are really close with each other. We all
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: love hanging out. Even though we've only had a couple
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: team practices– Everyone's there. The coaches are long gone. We
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: don't even realize it because we're just out there for
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: hours and hours helping each other. We're doing a lot
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: of stuff as a team together, which has been awesome
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: because we've had some of that the last couple of years,
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: but not as much as this year, and it's still
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: only a couple weeks into the year, which is really cool.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: I'm really excited to see what the rest of this
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: year holds.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: That's exciting.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: And that's so important, too, when you're able to do
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: stuff with your team outside of your sport and get
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: to know them, and it makes everything so much easier
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: and so much better. Yeah. For sure. What's, like, your
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: guys' favorite things to do together other than golf?
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: Well, a lot of the guys like to fish. We've
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: been talking about getting some kayaks from the snow center
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: and going out fishing. Yeah. But, like, last weekend, a
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: bunch of us went to the pool. We were kind
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: of just hanging out. A couple of us are in
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: a Bible study. We went and shared some time together.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: So I feel like we all have a lot of, like,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: really similar values, which is really helpful to, like, like
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: do a lot of the same things together. And like,
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: we just see eye to eye on a lot of
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: the same stuff, which is just fun. It makes things
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: a lot easier.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: You want to be in the same spaces, value the
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: same things. That is important. Yeah, definitely.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: Awesome. So, um, let's talk a little bit more about
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: the mental game of golf. Cause I feel like that's
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: something that a lot of people listening to this can
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: learn from you.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Right. Cause a lot, a lot of people struggle with it. So, um,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: What goes through your mind when you're standing over a
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: shot and you absolutely need to hit it? Like, what
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: are you thinking? How do you calm yourself down?
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: I have tried to get better with, like, breathing exercises. Like,
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: taking a deep breath before I can walk into it
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: and kind of, like, raising my shoulders and, like, shrugging
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: them to just kind of, like, release all the, like,
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: nervous energy. But, I mean, no matter what, there's still
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: going to be, like, negative shots or negative thoughts going
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: through your head, like, when you're over a shot. Um,
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: so it's really kind of just about harnessing those and
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: like replacing them with good ones. So even, even if
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: you're hitting a shot that you like, you have to
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: hit really good, it's, it's going to be tough, but
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: that's why it kind of just comes back to like
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: the routine and process where like you go through the
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: same set of motions, like the same like mental thoughts
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: that you go through before every shot. So it kind
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: of helps like minimize the effect of the negative ones,
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: but it's still, it's a day to day battle.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: I can imagine.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: Do you ever visualize? Like, is visualization a big thing
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: for golfers?
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: I've been, like, on and off with visualization. Sometimes it's, like,
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: it can be a little too much, especially, like, if
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: you're trying to see the ball curve one way, but
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: your swing's just not, like, letting it curve that way.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: So sometimes you kind of need to pick a target
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: and hit that. But visualization is, I've started doing it
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: again recently just because it helps so much. Like, commitment
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: is everything. Like, when hitting the shot especially like important
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: ones so it just helps to kind of like see
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: the picture of what you want to do it just
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: kind of helps like submit like a plan to your
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: brain like of what you're trying to achieve with the
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: shot so it just makes it easier to kind of
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: step up there and execute.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: It yeah absolutely but I think too with golf you
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: in your mind and correct me if I'm going on
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: the wrong path here but versus maybe a different sport
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: you could in your head okay in this one scenario
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: I see myself Everything else is pause. It's just me
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: and this one thing that I have to do versus
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking a different sport. Maybe it's basketball or softball.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: And there's just a lot of moving things happening at
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: one time. But with golf or even gymnastics, like I
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: close my eyes and I'm standing on the beam or
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: I close my eyes and I'm on bars or I'm
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: standing here over, you know what I mean? So that's
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: that's just so interesting to me.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Visualization is honestly it's a good skill to have, but
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: it can be hard. Like I will try to visual
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: visualize myself doing a dismount on bars and I will
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: land back on top of the bar like in my head.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: And it's I'm my brain is telling it like, yeah,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: do it how you like how you would actually do
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: a dismount. And literally what's going on in my brain
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: is it's just I'm landing back on top of the bar.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: And I don't know if that's just the subconscious negative
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: thoughts of what could happen seeping in. But it really
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: is a tough skill. I don't know if you ever
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: have a situation like that.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: Where it's just.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, if you, like, at least for golf, like,
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: if you're stemming up onto, like, a tee shot or, like,
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: the night before, if you're trying to visualize, like, your
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: kind of plan for the next day and there's a
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: tough tee shot with, like, water and out of bounds,
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: it is... really easy you have to be disciplined to
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: try to see something that is like what you want
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: to do because it's so easy to see see a
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: shot that will like go into the water or okay
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: so like that's interesting it's important to visualize but like
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: visualize the right things too because it's good yeah totally yeah.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: Okay thank you that's interesting to think about yeah.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: So um when we think about practice we often think
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: about the physical side of sport how do you then
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: practice these mental skills I'm guessing do you just go
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: out and have to play and try them out, or
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: how does that work?
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: It's easier to practice, like, visualization and, like, that kind
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: of aspect of it on the course because you're actually, like,
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: hitting shots on the range. It's like you're hitting the
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: same shot over and over again. So, like, you can,
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: I guess, practice seeing slightly different shots. But on the range,
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: it's more, for me, I feel like just, like, going
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: through my pre-shot routine.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: And then like out on the course is a good
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: spot to practice visualization, at least for like hitting hitting
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: golf balls, chipping and putting. It's it's pretty easy to
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: practice like visualization because like no chip or putt is
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: like exactly the same. Yeah. So it you definitely can.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: And it's important to do that because if you just
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: go out and hit balls for three hours or go
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: hit 100 putts and you're not like working on some
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: of the stuff you do on the course, it's it
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: helps like the physical side, but it doesn't really do
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: much for like the mental, the mental spot.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's like so interesting. Now I'm sure too, I
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: guess we talked about playing little mini games or being
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: able to put the pressure on yourself by being competitive
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: with your team is also very important because pressure is
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: hard to mimic. It's hard to replicate. Like what we'll
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: do is, um, Come on orange dream machine is what
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: we call it. Okay. So we'll be at practice and
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden Liz or Justin will yell orange
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: dream machine for somebody. And so everybody has to stop
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: what they're doing and go over to an event. And
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: whoever is the orange dream machine has to then show
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: their routine like completely on the spot to the whole team.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: And sometimes they'll do it to, or like they turn
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: off the music and, or they'll play really loud music,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: or they'll switch it up a little bit. So that's
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: one tactic we use.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: That'd be difficult to do right on the spot.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: I don't know how that would go over in golf.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: Orange tree machine.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: You just start playing really loud music.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's funny.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Play a little Led Zeppelin.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, your song. Put it back on. Would that.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: distract you or would that help you do you think.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: It's probably like it'd give me hype but then yeah
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: you gotta like settle back down like play it while.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: You're walking up it's like your walk-up song and then
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: turn it off and just be quiet yeah.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah that's yeah very different that would be that would
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: be something it's.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Definitely one thing i find interesting about golf like going
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: to a golf tournament or whatever is like how quiet
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: you have to be. But I think it's lovely. This
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: is great.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: No, it is.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: That's what I keep thinking about too, right? Like you're
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: in a gymnasium full of people screaming loud music, very
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: different circumstance for you.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: So when you're in that space and you find that
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: moment where you are calm, you find that peace, what
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: does actually being in the zone feel like for you?
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: It's going to sound kind of weird because there's not
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: a whole lot of noise to begin with, but you
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: almost don't hear anything. Playing a lot of golf, you
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: hear the birds chirping, the wind through the trees and stuff,
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: but when you're totally locked in, in the zone, you
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: don't hear anything. It's really kind of wild. I don't
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: even know how it works because there will be times
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: where we're out there playing and somebody accidentally talks when
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: you're about to hit, and you don't even hear it. Like, they're, like,
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: apologizing because they think that they, like, distracted you or something.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: You're like, what are you talking about?
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: I didn't even recognize.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: That you did that.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: It's weird. And I guess that's just, like, I don't
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: even know if that's, like, a skill you, like, acquire
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: or just kind of have or, like, develop over time.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: But it's really kind of weird. Like, you just learn to, like,
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: block all the sounds out. Yeah.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: For me, like, a byproduct of being focused and truly
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: intentionally focused on what you're doing, your brain just kind
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: of puts everything else to the side.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: And I know that's like a hard spot to get to.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Do you find yourself getting to that point often or
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: is it difficult for you to get there?
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: I think it's easier like when you're playing well or
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: like feeling more confident, like if you're in a like
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: a pressure packed round or just in a spot where
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: you're like kind of nervous there's a lot more like
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: voices going on in your head and it's tougher to
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: get to that spot where you're like totally focused because
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: you don't want to mess up but if you're if
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: you're confident you're already like playing well uh you're like
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: halfway through the round it's a little easier to kind
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: of tune everything out and just kind of keep doing
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: what you're doing but That's the challenge, is getting to
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: that point. And it's not easy to get there. But
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: on the days where you get there pretty quickly, those
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: are the fun ones. Yeah.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: I'm going to stay here. I'm a good guy.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: You're like, stay here. Great, let's roll with it. Exactly. Yeah, definitely.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: So you said the word confidence, and that's something I
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: think about a lot. In gymnastics, we talk about confidence
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: a lot. Do you feel like it's something that you've
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: had to work on a ton?
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Totally. It's up and down because, like, I mean, for
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: me at least, like, I feel like if I putt
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: really good one day, I'm, like, so confident. But, like,
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: the next day if I, like, miss a couple putts, then, like,
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: confidence goes down. So it's just, like, a lot of
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: ups and downs. It's kind of back to, like, the
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: mental part, like, self-talk, like, having, like, consistently good self-talk.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: So even if you, like, struggle, like, telling yourself it's
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: okay and that, like, it's okay to have a bad
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: putt and that, like, doesn't take anything away from, like,
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: how good a player you are. But it is tough, though, because, like,
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: there's so many ups and downs and it's, it's insane
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: how like how much confidence like affects how you play.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: If you're really confident, but your game like isn't in
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: an amazing spot, you're going to play way better than
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: if your game's in a good spot and you're not confident.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. I think that what you were talking about
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: of positive self-talk, that's just a skill you can use
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: if you're not, not even if you play a sport,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: if you're just in life, right? Like They say when
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: you wake up in the morning, if you say positive
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: affirmations to yourself in the mirror, like that's a great
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: way to start your day because you're making yourself feel good.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: And everything you do is just going to be better
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: if you feel good about yourself.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's something I need to implement.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: If you're waking up and you're saying positive affirmations, what
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: is the first one both of you are saying to yourself?
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Ooh, I would probably say like, I am capable. Hmm.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Would be mine.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: That's good. That's powerful.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: And you are.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: I promise.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: Sorry.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: We were having a moment.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I forgot in the middle of that. I'd probably
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: just say like today's going to be a good day.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Just like something really simple.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: Why is it not going to be a good day,
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: you know? Yeah.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: That's true. And then like if you start your day
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: with that too. Everything you do from that point forward
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: is going to be like, I'm going to look at
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: the glass half full rather than half empty. With that perspective.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: With that perspective. I'm capable.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: Everything you do, even if it's a challenge that day,
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: that's what you'll come back to in your mind. Today's
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: going to be a great day. That's the lens in
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: which you're going to see the day.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: Even if something is a hiccup in not ideal situation,
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: coming back to that.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: Now, Ashley, what would be yours? Mine would probably be.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to think if it would start with I
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: or with you. And I don't know why I want
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: to talk to myself in the third person, but maybe.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: No, but sometimes it helps. Yeah, for sure.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: Probably like you are, I think, loved. Like just love.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: For me, everything starts with love and ends with love.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: So like if you are loved in every situation I'm in,
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: I want to find the love in it. However, I
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: can show up for others in that way. And then
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: if they're showing up for me that way, because for me,
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: everything comes back to that.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: So just that.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: Reminder every day. And then, like, you are loved by
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: others and all that. And just take my day that way.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: I'm going to steal that one.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: We should.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: This should be a list of three.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: These three right here, we should all start doing.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: Start a group chat every morning.
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: Write them on your mirror.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: Send an affirmation in the group chat.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: That's so funny. Do you ever write stuff on your
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: mirror like that? I do that.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, I do. Yeah. Yes.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: I can't say I have, but.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: Hey, a little Expo marker. You just erase it like
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: a whiteboard.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Like. Okay, I want to get on the topic of
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: handwriting because that's something that's very important to me. Now,
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: you're pretty artistic, Colin. Like, I feel like your writing
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: on your mirror would not look terrible.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm proud that I know how to write cursive.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: It's a dying art.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: Quite frankly.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Nobody does anymore.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: So I kind of brought up the idea of artistic ability.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: Do you want to talk about some of your, I guess,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: your one recent project, which was? You painted a table.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: I did. Oh, I did before, uh, coming to school. Uh,
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: my dad asked if I wanted to have, like we
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: had a leftover, like there's a, uh, what's it called?
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: Like a plastic folding table that we didn't really have
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: a use for.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: And I bought like a Blackstone grill over summer. So
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: he was like, all right, like perfectly, you know, it
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: would go great with that. Like if I'm cooking for
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: the team or doing whatever.
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: How we'll get together.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: So I got the idea that like, it'd be cool
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: to like paint it. So I went and, um, got
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: a bunch of spray paint from the store and like
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: primed it, put some tape down, like get the lines
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: and I painted the, um, Clemson football field on it.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: And like one thing that took a lot of time
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: and detail was like to get the pot, like with
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: the detail.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: Oh, it is very, it is so hard. It has
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: all those little, yeah.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: A lot of detail. So like I traced it out
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: on like a couple of pieces of paper, like the outline,
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: but then I like took like a, I think I
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: ended up using like the tip of like a pencil,
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: but usually you'd use like a needle or like a
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: thumbtack or something, but I didn't have that. And you
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: punch like thousands of little holes to get the edges.
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: You did this with a pencil?
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: It took probably like an hour and a half to
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: do it. It was quite a few.
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: And then did you go in, what'd you do after? Like,
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: was it with a small paintbrush, Sharpie? How did we?
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: So then I like, or I taped the paper, like
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: the outline of it to like the center of the
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: table and like spray painted it orange and it actually
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: came out pretty good.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: I got to see this table at some point. You
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: got to show me.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty proud of it. It came out good.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: That's exciting. Did you seal it with anything?
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: I did. My dad helped me with that. He wanted it.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: I first asked him if he wanted to help. He
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: was like, no.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: No.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: Not going to do that. But then he saw how
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: good it turned out and he's.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Like, okay.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: Wait, okay.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: I want to get in on this.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: Put my name on it.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: Put my name on it.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: So then he did the, he got like the, it
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: was like clear gloss that you just spray on top
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: of it to kind of make sure the paint doesn't
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: chip or.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: I love this.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: So, yeah.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: Okay, so you got your table and you're grilling. What
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: are you cooking?
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: I've cooked, so far I've just done steaks. I've done
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: smash burgers at home.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: Do you have the little thing that pushes it down?
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: I've got like the little. upside-down bowl-looking thing that you
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: put over top, and you put the water underneath to
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: steam the cheese. But I've done breakfast. I've done hash browns.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: The eggs are so good. They get all crispy, and
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: then Brussels sprouts are really good on it.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: I actually, on the team retreat, there was a blackstone.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: And I was not supposed to be on dinner duty,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: but I walked upstairs and they're like, Grace, we need you.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: And so I did the Brussels sprouts on the Blackstone.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: I saw a picture of you somewhere.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: I'm like, she found her way to the grill.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: Of course she did.
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: You two are both on the grill is what it
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: sounds like.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: So you two need to chef it up together.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: We do a little collab.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Brussels sprouts for sure.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: It sounds like you're on the menu.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you have a specific way you like your
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: Brussels sprouts?
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: I like them very like charred.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Yes, they have to be.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: For sure. A little balsamic on there.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: I haven't tried that.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: Okay, this is the thing. I've gone around telling people
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: about this. You've heard it from me now. Hot honey,
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: which is literally my favorite thing on the planet. And
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: then goat cheese on your Brussels sprouts.
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: And you don't have to say anything more to me.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: I'm sold.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: I've, I've never heard of that.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you, have you just been eating them plain
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: this whole time?
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: I just kind of put some oil and some seasoning
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: on there and crisp them up.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: And that's good enough for me.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: Pretty simple guy.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, this will be life changing. A hundred percent.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: Report back.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: Cause I would love to know. And I do agree
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: that it's life changing.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: Okay. On the topic of food, what would be your
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: master's champions dinner?
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: That is a very good question.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: Um, I'd go steak. I love steak. Probably like a good,
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: like wagyu ribeye with, um, gotta be some, some type
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: of potato. I'm not a huge baked potato kind of guy,
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: but I like twice baked potato.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: Okay. So, so fair. That's valid.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Or like, uh, like potato skins with like the
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: bacon and cream cheese on there and the scallions. So
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: some type of potato like that, probably like a wedge salad.
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: Hmm.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: Some asparagus. I didn't used to like asparagus, but now
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: I'm back on the asparagus train.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Nice.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: It's pretty good.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: He likes his greens over here.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: He's maturing.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: Maybe some type of like shrimp or lobster tail. I
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: love lobster.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: Surf and turf. Absolutely.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: You really hit the game here.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: Would the wedge be your app or would you do
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: something different for appetizers?
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: I'd do a wedge or like a clam chowder.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: For the app. And then probably, like, the potatoes, asparagus,
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: and then the surf and turf.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: And then dessert, I'd do churros. I love churros.
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: Churros. That was the most unique answer, and it was
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: so good, though.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: They're underrated. Forgotten about.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: So good. Especially the chocolate-filled ones. Oh. I swear, they're, like,
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: they had them at Watt, and I was really disappointed
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: because I didn't get over there to get them.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: Like, where would you get a churro here right now?
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: Do they have them at some Mexican restaurants?
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: Probably. Okay.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. look around.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: Might be on my weekend to-do list.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. You should start like a note file or
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: an Excel spreadsheet of all the churros you've tried and
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: then you can rank them.
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: And.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: Actually, this makes me think of like I used to
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: do that with like baked goods I would make and
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: then I would have all of my friends rate them
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: and I would average out the score in an Excel spreadsheet.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: You could do that. You could bring people along. And
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: so this would be like a family affair and you
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: would all rank your churros. Why is my mind going here?
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: And then you would average out the score in the
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: Excel spreadsheet.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: She just created a whole project for you.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: Yes. Are you ready?
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: It sounds great. We're going to have to have like
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: a follow-up episode or something. Oh, 100%.
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: We have quite a few things to follow back up on.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: Wait, we could have a whole churro segment.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: I'm here for it.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: Get like five different.
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: Ones to like try. Yes.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: Okay, this is a great idea.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: We'll cook up the sample master's champions dinner.
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah. With you and the chef at an apron.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: I do have an apron. Okay. Okay.
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: So you're really locked in on this.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: I like aprons. I just don't like getting dirty.
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: So real. They're underrated, too. That's also a lost art.
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: We don't wear aprons in the kitchen anymore.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: Nobody does.
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: They're cute.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: Like the chef coat, the white chef coat. You button
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: up on both sides.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: We're going to see Colin in a chef coat.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: We're going to see Colin.
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: In a chef coat.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: In a chef hat.
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: With his name embroidered on the chest.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: That's perfect.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: I did actually used to have one of those.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: Okay, so we're already there. Look at that.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: I was like five, though.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: So it probably doesn't fit.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: I still have it, though. You do? It was for
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: like a birthday party at like a restaurant.
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: That would be a fun birthday party.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: It really would.
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: It was great.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. So you said clam chowder. Are you a
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: New England boy?
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: My parents are. I'm a proud Southern boy, but family
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: heritage is up north.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: Yes. So you're a fan of all the sports teams
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: up there.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: I am. I am indeed. It's very highly controversial, especially
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: with a lot of my friends down here.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: We were just in Boston for the power trip, and
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: so we got to go to Fenway and watch the
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: Red Sox. And then I toured Fenway as well, and
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: that was really cool.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: Jacob showed me the pictures, and I was quite jealous. Yeah.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: I was very, very jealous.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: So your nickname is Sal, Colin Salima. Sal.
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: There you go.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: And there was a spot down there that was, or
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: I guess up there, because we're in the south right now.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: It was called Sal's Pizza. Look at that. So I
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: was like, wait, this is kind of funny. He's literally
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: meant to be up here. Yeah.
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: I feel like sports fans in the Northeast are just
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: the strongest fans. They really believe and live by their teams.
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: Is that accurate?
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: It's pretty crazy. It's a crazy culture up there. very
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: different totally it's uh especially the real like thick accents
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: it's you don't want to be like the opposing team
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: it's it'd be rough you'd probably hear some things you
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: don't want to.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's fair yeah it's very true hey so it
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: makes sense that you're a clumpson tiger because we're also
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: very strong sports fans yes yeah we love our tigers we.
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: Do we do all right So had you been, have
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: you been to Fenway before?
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: I have quite a few times. Yeah. It's, it's the best.
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: So the Red Sox, what other sports did you grow
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: up going to?
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: I've never been to a home Patriots game. That's like
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: a bucket list for me. I love the Patriots, love
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: Tom Brady. Now Drake May, pretty cool. Cause he's actually
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: from Charlotte. So he went to high school just up
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: there for me. Um, I like the Bruins and the Celtics.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: I've been to Celtics. I don't think I've ever been
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: to a Bruins game, but I've been to a few
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: Celtics games when I played the Hornets, but still never been.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: So I've got some work to do. Yeah.
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: Okay, how fun.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: Could you see yourself moving up there, or do you
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: want to stay in the South after college?
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: I want to stay in the South. Really? I couldn't
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: do all the snow and the long winters up there.
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: It's a big adjustment, yeah.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: That's why I'm staying in the South.
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: Okay, for both of you.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: We do get moderate seasons here. That's when I do
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: enjoy that about being in the South is you get
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: just enough of each of them. Being from California, we
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: really don't have seasons, which is beautiful and wonderful. And
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: sometimes I'm like, all right, I'm ready for the leaves
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: to change and I would like to wear a sweater
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: and it not be 80 degrees in November. So I
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: think that that's a good, we have a good balance here. Totally.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: But also being from Chicago, you probably are used to
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: extreme winters. Both of you from where you're from, right?
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: I'm used to it. Well, you probably aren't Charlotte, I
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: don't think. You're right.
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: You're family.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: Charlotte's real similar to you.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: But, yeah, Chicago, it gets rough up there for sure.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: It'll be funny, too, because I am down here for
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: most of the winter. And my parents will text me
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: and they'll be like, it's negative 30 here. And I'm like,
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: I'm not.
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: Jealous at what point does it not feel different negative what.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: I that's true right like is is it possible to
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: just keep feeling cold.
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: Right i guess the wind chill i hear is where
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: you start to oh.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: A hundred percent yeah and we're the windy city yes
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: so but i will tell you this when it's a
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: little bit cold here and you're riding around on a
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: scooter the wind chill is no joke yeah it's.
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: Cold it does get off on you and get the mitts.
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: Out yeah yeah And be safe on those scooters, everyone, also.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: On a reset.
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: Wear a helmet. Please. Look for cars.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: Look both ways.
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: It's dangerous flying down that hill by, like, that head
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: straight down toward the stadium.
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: You've got to really look out.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, like, I'm not going to call... either body out,
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: whether it's the athletes or anybody, but nobody looks anymore.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: So it's all about, you know. Yeah.
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: You got to pay attention. Look out for cars. Do
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: you ride one?
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: I do.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: Okay. I'm proud to say I've never been in an accident. Good.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: You deserve a badge because I cannot say the same.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: Did you know about this actually? I didn't know about that.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: Almost a year ago today.
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: Glad to have you here.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: But I'm here. And I was fine.
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: It's scary.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: It is scary.
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: For sure. Yeah.
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: Especially, I mean, things can move pretty fast.
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: Well, at the end of the day, they are a
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: good means of transportation on a campus like this. Like,
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: it makes total sense. It's just everyone's got to look
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: out for everyone else and be careful. Exactly.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: So, okay. Okay.
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: We'll stay safe, you two.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: Try.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: Shifting gears a little bit because we got on the
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: topic of scooters, but. Let's bring it back. So you've
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: done a fun segment with the Clemson men's golf social
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: media account where you were on the mic and you
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: were interviewing. And I feel like I didn't see a
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: ton of it last year, but I'm wondering if you're
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: going to bring it back. And also what, what's that
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: experience like for you? Is it fun?
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: It is a lot of fun. It's a good way
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: to like introduce the new guys and like get to
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: know them a little bit like myself. And it's just,
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: you know, it's good, good content. It gets a lot
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: of views. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I've had requests that I
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: need to do this year. Plus we have some interesting
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: personalities on the team, so it'd probably be a hit.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: So I might need to talk to Ben about getting
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: those set up sometime soon.
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely.
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: And is that something you're looking for in the future to,
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: to get involved in like the media side of things or.
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: I am a marketing major. So like I do enjoy,
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: I'm taking a social media marketing class right now. And
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: it's really interesting. Like just talking about all like different
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: stuff that I feel like I can apply to kind
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: of growing and building my image. But I do, I
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: do enjoy it. It's fun. Like being able to just
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: post about certain stuff, like making stuff. I love making
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: the videos, like showing up all the gear we get. Yeah.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: Cause you got, you got to wear the meta glasses.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: Yes. Right. Yes. Do the whole unboxing. So stuff like
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: that's fun. Getting like, like PR boxes from brands and
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: get to like just new goodies. Like, like new little things.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's fun. Yeah. I like it.
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: That's neat, too, being a marketing major, and you kind
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: of mentioned, like, building your own brand, but utilizing all
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: of that stuff to just, especially today, continue building your
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: own brand. Like, obviously, yes, as part of your team
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: and as an individual, all that stuff, that's so applicable
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: right now.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Especially with, like, NIL and the whole, like, space,
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: it's everybody emphasizes, like, building up your social media and, like,
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: getting your, like, image out there and just making people
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: aware of it. Yeah.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. With NIL, it's crazy, but I feel like, um, at,
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: to some extent it seems a little scary in terms
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: of like, what do I need to do to get
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: myself there? But at the same time, it can be
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: as simple as just posting, like start posting. And it's
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: hard to, when you're thinking about what are all these
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: people going to think if I'm posting X, Y, Z.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: And sometimes you just have to put that to the
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: side and be like, I'm just going to do it
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: for myself, you know?
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: And I think people look at that too. And whether
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: you see it or not, someone is like, okay, Grace
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: is doing it. Colin's doing it. I can do it.
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  Speaker 3: It can't be that scary. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: Like you're taking that leap of faith. It's showing someone
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  Speaker 3: else that they can too. Cause everyone's out here consuming content.
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  Speaker 3: Someone's got to make it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: We're scrolling through it. Everyone's doing it, you know?
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: That is scary.
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  Speaker 2: I think, yeah. Like when you're getting into it, to
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: your point, like just fear of being judged and stuff,
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  Speaker 2: you Everyone's going to get good comments and bad comments.
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  Speaker 2: Just got to be willing to put stuff out there
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  Speaker 2: in the first place.
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: Absolutely. Very true. Takes courage.
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: And you're wanting to get more into the NIL space, right?
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: I'd say so, yeah.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: You've done a good job at it, I would say.
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  Speaker 2: Appreciate that.
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  Speaker 1: From what I've seen on your socials.
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: This job requires a lot of Instagram stalking. The PI work. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: So.
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  Speaker 1: Behind the scenes. It's just like.
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  Speaker 3: I've learned this and this. Yeah.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: No, you do.
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  Speaker 3: You get to see and learn a lot of unique
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: things about the people that we bring on here.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. Now, so fishing, cooking, any other hobbies that
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: you like to do outside of golf? Because golf, as
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: I said, is a hobby for a lot of people. Yeah.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: But you have to find hobbies other than that because
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: that's your sport. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Besides, I mean, I like to get more into fishing.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: I like fishing in the ocean more. I'm not a
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: huge pond fishing kind of guy because the fish are
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: bigger in the ocean. I like that. I just kind
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: of like doing anything outdoors. I like hiking. I like
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: riding my bike. I have a mountain bike at home.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: I used to go on trails and stuff, but I
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: think that's a little frowned upon now because I don't
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: want to get too hurt. I like skiing, but I'm
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: kind of banned from that because I hurt my thumb
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: freshman year every winter break.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: You can't with the golf club have a.
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  Speaker 3: Some altered hobbies while you're pursuing golf.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: I'll paint more tables.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: There you go. You could channel that in other ways too.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: There's other stuff to paint or create.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: Find some artsy things to do. Hang up some art
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: in the clubhouse.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: There you go.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: Have you ever seen I met a girl this summer
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: and she does tea art. Like she takes golf tees
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: of all different colors and stuff.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: That's cool.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: And so she went to the University of Iowa and
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: they actually commissioned her to create tea art for, I
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: think they put it in their golf clubhouse. I think
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: they put something in whatever stadium they play basketball in.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: They had some big golf tea art thing. And she's
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: done stuff for USGA. She had to send a couple
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: things to Japan. Oh. For people in Japan, like that
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: could be something.
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  Speaker 3: That is neat.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: You take all the different colored tees and like makeup, like.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: There's different pictures and stuff. Like you could do the paw.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: That'd be, that'd be really cool.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: That would just, it appears one day in the golf house.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: And then you start posting and then you start getting
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: people DM. Yeah.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: It's all. How fun. That is so niche.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: That'd be cool.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: God, we've got, Way too many golf tees.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: So you've got spray paint already.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: Inspiration. You've got it all.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: You might see one hanging outside your office.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: Say less. I will put it.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: We'll be there.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: You'll know it's a gift from Colin.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: Okay. So to wrap this up, the title of this
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: is beyond the paw in one sentence or more. I
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: tend to lean on the side of more. I like
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: to talk. Who are you beyond the paw?
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: Beyond the paw? I'd say that I am someone that's
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: just grateful for like all the people I've gotten to meet,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: not only here, but just like in my life. And
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: I'm just grateful for like my parents and my brother
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: and all the people that have sacrificed for me. So
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: I say I'm very grateful.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That was really great. I think we could all
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: use a little bit of gratitude. Absolutely.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: It's amazing.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Collins, for coming on.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: It was so great chatting and learning more about you.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: We appreciate it.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: This was a lot of fun. Really glad to come
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: on here. Yay.