Latest / Reality TV Cringe / 196: Sister Wives - How The Mighty Have Fallen (S19 E4)
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- 0:09Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to reality TV Cringe. I am one
- 0:13Speaker 1: of your hosts, Deelia here with my real tight homegirl
- 0:16Speaker 1: and my daughter in law, Bea Bey all as Quinn's girlfriends.
- 0:22Speaker 1: Her wife's name is Bia. I always thought it was b.
- 0:25Speaker 2: I'm actually Bea.
- 0:26Speaker 1: Are you beet tonight? You'll be Bea.
- 0:29Speaker 3: But welcome.
- 0:29Speaker 4: We're so excited to be here and we're going to
- 0:31Speaker 4: be talking sister Wise Girl season nineteen, how the Mighty
- 0:38Speaker 4: have fallen?
- 0:40Speaker 1: And ain't that the truth?
- 0:42Speaker 2: Facts?
- 0:43Speaker 1: Yes, I was infuriated during the entire episode. I had
- 0:47Speaker 1: to check my blood pressure. I was worried about a
- 0:49Speaker 1: cardiac event.
- 0:52Speaker 4: I was.
- 0:54Speaker 1: I was uncomfortable, I was disturbed. I'm like, does this
- 0:57Speaker 1: man have a brain sickness? Yeah? Is his brain rotting? Yes?
- 1:03Speaker 1: Does he have a serious TBI? Is he being animated
- 1:07Speaker 1: by the devil? Are we seeing them in possession? I
- 1:11Speaker 1: kind of feel like we've got to walk in situation,
- 1:14Speaker 1: like aliens have walked into his body or else.
- 1:17Speaker 2: He's fugging, I mean, fucking wacko, dude. He is crazy.
- 1:23Speaker 1: I'm so angry. I've been trained. They colluded against me.
- 1:31Speaker 2: Person Cassane.
- 1:34Speaker 1: We're gonna get into it. Before we do, we have
- 1:37Speaker 1: to issue you a disclaimer. First and foremost, had your
- 1:39Speaker 1: wife and had your kids. This is a politically incorrect podcast.
- 1:44Speaker 1: We say bad words, and we have stupid opinions, and
- 1:48Speaker 1: we're unapologetic.
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- 1:50Speaker 1: You're a thought smile, you might want to find yourself
- 1:54Speaker 1: another dumpster baby. But if you're down to party and
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- 2:48Speaker 1: Sorry about my voice, they realize I'm losing it. It's
- 2:51Speaker 1: because my husband has a mankled. Yeah, and he's been
- 2:54Speaker 1: coughing around my house for like one week, and I'm
- 2:58Speaker 1: just like, cover your mouth, you but he didn't. So
- 3:02Speaker 1: now I think I'm getting six. So I apologize for that. Yeah, okay,
- 3:05Speaker 1: So before we get into the episode, there are three
- 3:08Speaker 1: things I want to discuss. First and foremost. I would
- 3:11Speaker 1: like to apologize for me messing up the timeline last week.
- 3:15Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because I was thinking we were looking at
- 3:17Speaker 1: footage that happened before Janelle and Cody's fight. I mean,
- 3:22Speaker 1: I'm in a whirlwind with these editors. I don't know
- 3:26Speaker 1: where I am. I'm wondering what's going on. So I
- 3:29Speaker 1: do apologize. Apparently I was off by a year.
- 3:32Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean, how can you be blamed for
- 3:35Speaker 2: that when the editors were so shitty and we're watching
- 3:38Speaker 2: footage from two years ago, but the couch interviews are
- 3:41Speaker 2: probably from twenty twenty three or something, a few months ago.
- 3:45Speaker 2: What's going on?
- 3:46Speaker 1: I don't know, so I'm getting confused me. So I
- 3:48Speaker 1: do apologize for that, and I acknowledge that, and I'll
- 3:50Speaker 1: try to do better, but I probably won't. Probably won't. Yeah,
- 3:54Speaker 1: the next thing I want to talk about is bitch bit.
- 3:58Speaker 1: I was a bond a and I saw without a
- 4:03Speaker 1: Crystal Ball, who is a content creator on YouTube and
- 4:07Speaker 1: also Instagram and listen do not come for us. We
- 4:10Speaker 1: know she's controversial, but she also often is correct and
- 4:14Speaker 1: she deals in facts sometimes. Anyway, so she made a
- 4:17Speaker 1: post about Cody Brown and Robin Brown taking their house
- 4:23Speaker 1: off the market. Yes, and of course we heard about
- 4:26Speaker 1: this a couple of days ago and everybody was wondering,
- 4:28Speaker 1: why did you who bought it? What's going on? Well,
- 4:32Speaker 1: without a Crystal Ball has given us the tea and
- 4:34Speaker 1: so let me just read her post. Cody and Robin
- 4:37Speaker 1: Brown have been forced to stop this sale of their
- 4:40Speaker 1: home in Arizona following a lawsuit filed against Cody in
- 4:44Speaker 1: Utah by Christine. On August thirtieth, twenty twenty four, Cody
- 4:51Speaker 1: and Robin Brown unexpectedly listed their Arizona home for sale.
- 4:56Speaker 1: The move startled fans and even family members. Then, on
- 5:00Speaker 1: September sixteenth, twenty twenty four, Christine Brown Woolly filed a
- 5:04Speaker 1: lawsuit against Cody Brown for paternity, child support, back child support,
- 5:09Speaker 1: and child custody. Her lawyers sought a restraining order via
- 5:13Speaker 1: a domestic relations in junction to prevent both parties from
- 5:17Speaker 1: engaging in specific behaviors, activities, and financial matters. The injunction
- 5:22Speaker 1: specifically states that neither party is allowed to conceal or
- 5:27Speaker 1: sell assets.
- 5:28Speaker 2: Quote.
- 5:29Speaker 1: If the petition involves the division of property, personal property,
- 5:34Speaker 1: or debts, the parties must not transfer, encumber, conceal, or
- 5:40Speaker 1: dispose of your property or the other party's property unless
- 5:44Speaker 1: a you have the written consent of the other party,
- 5:47Speaker 1: or b you have a court order, except in the
- 5:51Speaker 1: usual course of business or to provide for the necessities
- 5:54Speaker 1: of life. End quote. So Christine is suing Cody for
- 5:58Speaker 1: four years of child support, and this debt is due
- 6:01Speaker 1: to her upon the establishment of paternity and the child
- 6:04Speaker 1: support order for their daughter. Truly, as a result, Cody
- 6:08Speaker 1: is barred from selling his home without written permission from
- 6:13Speaker 1: Christine or a written court order. Cody has yet to
- 6:18Speaker 1: be served in this case. I'm wondering if he is
- 6:22Speaker 1: evading service. I don't know, but he is more than
- 6:25Speaker 1: likely aware of the case against him. Thus he cannot
- 6:28Speaker 1: sell the home and tell the lawsuit is resolved. My
- 6:32Speaker 1: suspicion has always been that Cody was attempting to offload
- 6:36Speaker 1: assets ahead of this lawsuit. The fact that Christine filed
- 6:39Speaker 1: suit within weeks of the listing of Cody's home further
- 6:43Speaker 1: proves this claim. Cody is known to conceal and hide
- 6:46Speaker 1: assets from his ex wives as a means to defraud them.
- 6:50Speaker 1: If Christine wins her case, she can file a lean
- 6:53Speaker 1: against Cody's home until he pays off the child support debt.
- 6:58Speaker 1: Things are just start to get spicy. A full video
- 7:02Speaker 1: is coming soon from Katie Joy and.
- 7:06Speaker 3: Jee That is some creation on Cola are singing all
- 7:14Speaker 3: the profits and ancestor oh my god in all of
- 7:19Speaker 3: their garments are dancing and I am so happy to
- 7:25Speaker 3: his is so good.
- 7:26Speaker 1: What do you think?
- 7:27Speaker 2: Oh, I think it's fucking fabulous. I think it's so great.
- 7:30Speaker 2: It's so well deserved. If it's four years of back
- 7:33Speaker 2: child support and it's based on Cody's income, I mean
- 7:36Speaker 2: there's a lot of money. Girl. Well, yes, that's a lot.
- 7:40Speaker 1: I'm wondering. So like with my child, I had one child.
- 7:45Speaker 1: I was married to a man of somewhat means, but
- 7:48Speaker 1: I got like six thousand dollars a month. That's less
- 7:52Speaker 1: parts of his bonuses for one child. So I'm not sure.
- 7:57Speaker 1: I don't I'm not sure. I don't know bless those bonuses.
- 8:02Speaker 1: I mean, so, I'm not sure how much Cody was
- 8:06Speaker 1: making in relation to how much my x man made.
- 8:09Speaker 1: But like I can see a world, for example, where
- 8:12Speaker 1: he might be ordered to pay two thousand, twenty five
- 8:16Speaker 1: hundred dollars a month in child support. Oh yeah, at least,
- 8:19Speaker 1: So two thousand times twelve is twenty four thousand times
- 8:26Speaker 1: four times four is one hundred thousand for past child support,
- 8:33Speaker 1: and then he's got to pay this same amount for
- 8:35Speaker 1: the next six years eighteen. I don't know what actually
- 8:38Speaker 1: could be twenty one yeah plus tuition.
- 8:41Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 8:42Speaker 1: So he's smashed that house off the MLS because he
- 8:46Speaker 1: does not have Christine's permission to sell at this time,
- 8:49Speaker 1: nor does he have a court order because he is
- 8:51Speaker 1: avoiding or evading service.
- 8:53Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I mean, if Robin and Cody are broke,
- 8:56Speaker 2: like he's trying to get money so that they're going
- 8:58Speaker 2: to be fine, But Christine's not gonna let you, bitch,
- 9:02Speaker 2: not gonna let you.
- 9:03Speaker 1: I just hope this is the first of at least
- 9:07Speaker 1: two or three more lawsuits. Oh my god, I need
- 9:10Speaker 1: Janelle to come on in with some kind of an
- 9:13Speaker 1: action or claim. I need married or.
- 9:15Speaker 2: Worthy up for real.
- 9:17Speaker 1: There's some you can pursue for and it rhymes with
- 9:19Speaker 1: schmayoti hass. There's something you can do about that land right, Yeah,
- 9:24Speaker 1: for sure? Oh my god. I loved it. I just
- 9:27Speaker 1: I'm just I'm always trying to remote view into the
- 9:30Speaker 1: McMansion to see what they're thinking when this news gets
- 9:34Speaker 1: to them.
- 9:34Speaker 2: Oh my god, they're so mad. This is Cody being like,
- 9:37Speaker 2: I'm betrayed again, just betrayed me again. Yeah, he's so pissed. Yes,
- 9:44Speaker 2: I love it.
- 9:45Speaker 1: This is what you fucking.
- 9:46Speaker 2: Deserve, dude, This is what you deserve.
- 9:49Speaker 1: Conna's a bitch.
- 9:50Speaker 2: Shit enough be.
- 9:53Speaker 3: So goot.
- 9:54Speaker 2: I can't wait to watch it on the show in
- 9:56Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven.
- 9:57Speaker 1: I know, I don't know if I'll still be here.
- 10:01Speaker 1: You might have to be talking to me through a
- 10:02Speaker 1: Ouiji board. On reality, I will have commentary from the
- 10:08Speaker 1: other side.
- 10:10Speaker 3: I'll be dead though, stop hopefully not knock on one.
- 10:15Speaker 1: Well whatever, okay, well I'm already old. No, Okay, the
- 10:19Speaker 1: next thing I want to talk about is something that
- 10:22Speaker 1: Madison Brush, who is of course Cody's daughter guide you now,
- 10:27Speaker 1: posted on Instagram. Now this was after this most recent
- 10:31Speaker 1: episode aired, and so we think she's vague gramming, and
- 10:37Speaker 1: so she put up I guess a little graphic on
- 10:40Speaker 1: her story and I want to read it to everybody. Okay,
- 10:44Speaker 1: So the graphic, which we'll post right here, says, never
- 10:47Speaker 1: refriend or refamily a person who tried to destroy your character,
- 10:52Speaker 1: your integrity, or your relationships with others. A snake only
- 10:57Speaker 1: sheds its skin to be a bigger snake. If others
- 11:00Speaker 1: fall victim and walk away from you because of that,
- 11:03Speaker 1: let them sooner or later, the snake will bite them too.
- 11:09Speaker 1: So do we think she was talking about Cody Brown?
- 11:12Speaker 2: For sure? And maybe a little bit of Robin.
- 11:15Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 11:15Speaker 2: But that's interesting that he. I mean, she's like calling
- 11:18Speaker 2: him out for destroying her character. Why because he's calling
- 11:21Speaker 2: her a gossip.
- 11:22Speaker 1: He's calling her a gossip and he's talking about how
- 11:24Speaker 1: she moved to the other side of the country and
- 11:27Speaker 1: took the grand babies, and how she scuttled her children
- 11:31Speaker 1: away at Logan's wedding, and how she treated him so badly.
- 11:35Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, well I love to see you.
- 11:37Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad she did.
- 11:39Speaker 2: I want more of the family members to do this. Yes,
- 11:41Speaker 2: they're all so fucking quiet all the time. They are
- 11:45Speaker 2: like even Mary, like she's posting a lot of like upbeat,
- 11:48Speaker 2: positive stuff on our Instagram. She's like, I'm happy, I'm
- 11:50Speaker 2: weaving up, and I'm like.
- 11:51Speaker 1: Can't you I don't care. Can you talk to the
- 11:53Speaker 1: issues at hand?
- 11:54Speaker 2: Please?
- 11:54Speaker 1: Ah, That's all I want. And I was thinking just today,
- 11:58Speaker 1: I was like, it would be so cool if like
- 12:00Speaker 1: the older kids got together and made a statement, kind
- 12:03Speaker 1: of like the Plath kids did when Olivia came out
- 12:06Speaker 1: with their credit card thing with Kim Plath, Like just
- 12:08Speaker 1: issue his statement across your instagram about how you're feeling
- 12:13Speaker 1: about what you're seeing, because I think we're just all pontificating,
- 12:16Speaker 1: we're speculating. I mean, we can imagine what you're feeling,
- 12:19Speaker 1: but we'd really like to know from you. And I
- 12:21Speaker 1: also think it would be a kill shot to Cody.
- 12:23Speaker 2: Oh my god, it would be so good. And everybody
- 12:25Speaker 2: would be supportive of the kids too, like they're like,
- 12:28Speaker 2: my dad's a piece of shit.
- 12:29Speaker 1: Everybody like yes, and he wasn't around and I never
- 12:32Speaker 1: saw him during COVID. I mean I think I saw
- 12:33Speaker 1: him once in seven months.
- 12:35Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh my god, it would be so good.
- 12:37Speaker 1: I don't know why they're not doing it.
- 12:38Speaker 2: Maybe they will, Maybe they don't want to add more
- 12:41Speaker 2: fuel to the fire.
- 12:43Speaker 1: It's often though, every single week going crazy. I swear
- 12:47Speaker 1: to god, he's got a mental illness. He won't shut up.
- 12:51Speaker 1: I mean, and I don't like Robin. Yeah, and I'm
- 12:53Speaker 1: not a Robin apologist. Yeah, but he keeps interrupting her.
- 12:57Speaker 1: He looks rabid. Oh yeah, something's wrong with that man.
- 13:00Speaker 2: Well, people have commented on our YouTube and stuff and said,
- 13:03Speaker 2: you know, Cody's abusive and so Robin's probably experiencing a
- 13:07Speaker 2: lot of that, which I can see a world where
- 13:09Speaker 2: that's true. But then also Robin enables the fuck out
- 13:12Speaker 2: of him, and she's always like pumping his ego and
- 13:16Speaker 2: just fanning the flame to everything. And it's so annoying.
- 13:19Speaker 1: Uh, yes it is. And we'll get to their argument
- 13:23Speaker 1: or their fight, yeah, a little later on. But why
- 13:25Speaker 1: don't we pop on into the episode.
- 13:29Speaker 2: Well, this episode only had you know, like four major things.
- 13:33Speaker 2: It was McKelty with her twins, don't care, Thanksgiving discussion
- 13:41Speaker 2: for real, the Thanksgiving discussion, and then Christine talked about
- 13:45Speaker 2: dating David as if we haven't seen her fucking wedding special.
- 13:48Speaker 1: We kind of know what happens in the end.
- 13:51Speaker 2: Yeah, and then we have Cody and Robin's big fight.
- 13:53Speaker 1: Okay, Well, there were some interesting things with Thanksgiving. I
- 13:58Speaker 1: thought there were some interesting things with micael Tea, specifically
- 14:02Speaker 1: Robin sleeping in the closet.
- 14:04Speaker 2: Like Clayton's mom from ninety Day Fians.
- 14:05Speaker 1: That's right, and helping and being very present, and then
- 14:10Speaker 1: her car interview afterwards, like, what were your thoughts about
- 14:14Speaker 1: how Robin presented in that section?
- 14:16Speaker 2: I thought it was genuine, Like I thought she too
- 14:18Speaker 2: actually cares about the grandkids. I think she actually cares
- 14:21Speaker 2: about McKelty and so I think that that's a good thing.
- 14:25Speaker 2: But it is also kind of sad watching this knowing
- 14:28Speaker 2: that they've had a falling out because Robin opened her
- 14:31Speaker 2: big fat mouth and.
- 14:33Speaker 1: Or didn't let her kids come to the funeral or
- 14:35Speaker 1: memorial service.
- 14:36Speaker 2: Or made it all about her, or something happened at
- 14:38Speaker 2: Garrison's memorial service. So like, it's unfortunate watching this, But
- 14:42Speaker 2: I do think that Robin came from a genuine place.
- 14:44Speaker 2: I think it was good that she was there helping McKelty.
- 14:47Speaker 2: I think that's awesome. I thought she handled Christine well.
- 14:50Speaker 1: Too, Yes, and I think Christine also handled Robin well.
- 14:54Speaker 1: They were very mature. I mean, even though Christine does
- 14:57Speaker 1: say to the camera like, yeah, it's awkward, like she
- 14:59Speaker 1: might fa no, but like, this isn't about me. I'm
- 15:03Speaker 1: here for McKelty, and I'm super grateful that Robin was there.
- 15:06Speaker 1: I mean, I'm obviously paraphrasing. I I don't know. I
- 15:12Speaker 1: kind of just wondered, like, if this wasn't happening in
- 15:15Speaker 1: the family, would Robin have gone. I'm not really sure,
- 15:19Speaker 1: Like if Robin didn't need to rehab her brand, you know,
- 15:26Speaker 1: or like her her presence on the show, would she
- 15:29Speaker 1: have done this. I'm not sure I can say. Though,
- 15:32Speaker 1: when she was in the car with that fabulous light
- 15:35Speaker 1: yeah in her face and her eyes are so pretty,
- 15:38Speaker 1: she seemed like she was authentic and sincere when she
- 15:41Speaker 1: said that it was a really sweet moment and she
- 15:43Speaker 1: was going to miss those babies. Now, a few people
- 15:46Speaker 1: were wondering out loud on the internet how long she
- 15:50Speaker 1: actually spent with McKelty, because it appears, and I'm not sure.
- 15:55Speaker 1: It appears that it was like a few nights that
- 15:57Speaker 1: she was there, like before the babies came, and then
- 15:59Speaker 1: after the babies came. I think she was there for
- 16:01Speaker 1: a couple of nights, but like probably more than four nights.
- 16:04Speaker 1: And then people are like, well, how come Cody can't
- 16:07Speaker 1: be gone from Ariella for longer than three nights, but
- 16:12Speaker 1: Robin can leave and be gone for somebody said three weeks.
- 16:16Speaker 1: I don't think she was there that long. No, but
- 16:18Speaker 1: you know, a few nights probably. How come it's okay
- 16:21Speaker 1: for her to be gone but not Cody.
- 16:23Speaker 2: That's a good question. Makes me wonder if Cody just
- 16:27Speaker 2: used Ariella as an excuse. Oh yeah, like well, but
- 16:29Speaker 2: I mean, like not because of Robin. Like I don't
- 16:32Speaker 2: know if Robin told him to use ariellas as an excuse.
- 16:35Speaker 2: I wonder if Cody was just like telling everybody, yeah, no,
- 16:39Speaker 2: I can't do it because Ariella like just you know,
- 16:41Speaker 2: pawning it off on everybody else.
- 16:43Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see that, you know. Yeah, I just
- 16:46Speaker 1: I was just like, that's a little odd.
- 16:47Speaker 2: It is a little odd, but I don't know, weird, yes,
- 16:51Speaker 2: and weird weird. Then we have the Thanksgiving discussion, which
- 16:56Speaker 2: was kind of interesting a little bit. I mean Mary
- 16:59Speaker 2: and her sad as sick ass staying at home alone.
- 17:03Speaker 1: I feel bad for Mary.
- 17:04Speaker 2: I felt really bad.
- 17:06Speaker 1: She was supposed to go to California, so maybe she
- 17:08Speaker 1: was going to go to Disney or whatever with some
- 17:10Speaker 1: of her friends, or maybe she would have seen Jen
- 17:12Speaker 1: I don't know, but she got sick and so she
- 17:15Speaker 1: ended up staying in Flagstaff by herself. Robin had invited
- 17:20Speaker 1: her to come over, but as per Mary, she's like,
- 17:22Speaker 1: I don't want to be the third will why was she?
- 17:24Speaker 1: And also Cody stays blaming me, yeah, for like not
- 17:28Speaker 1: being able to be himself when I'm around at Thanksgiving
- 17:31Speaker 1: because of what he wants to be doing is dry
- 17:33Speaker 1: humping Robin. But he can't do that because Robin is
- 17:37Speaker 1: so sensitive, she's so compassionate. She doesn't want Mary to
- 17:40Speaker 1: feel bad.
- 17:41Speaker 2: Do we believe that? Do we believe that Robin's actually
- 17:44Speaker 2: conscious of that?
- 17:47Speaker 1: Yeah, she's probably conscious to it. I don't know that
- 17:50Speaker 1: she has an altruistic thought for Mary though, Yeah, I.
- 17:54Speaker 2: Don't think she gives a shit really.
- 17:55Speaker 1: Yeah, So Mary ends up staying home and Robin pretends
- 17:59Speaker 1: and I'm just imagining she's pretending that she didn't know
- 18:03Speaker 1: she was there, But even if she found out on
- 18:06Speaker 1: Thanksgiving or shortly thereafter that, Mary was in Flagstaff, Like
- 18:09Speaker 1: why aren't you running her some food? Why aren't she
- 18:12Speaker 1: doing something to help Mary?
- 18:15Speaker 2: I feel bad? I feel really bad. And I was
- 18:17Speaker 2: also thinking, like about Leon and stuff. I'm like, why
- 18:20Speaker 2: aren't you with your mom? Why are you inviting your
- 18:23Speaker 2: mom up to Colorado? Was that not talked about? Like
- 18:26Speaker 2: do you not want to be around your mom? Like?
- 18:28Speaker 1: Why is she alone? Always forever alone? Why is she
- 18:33Speaker 1: alone either in her rental and Flagstaff or her haunted
- 18:37Speaker 1: BMB in Carowan, She's forever alone? I feel bad. I
- 18:41Speaker 1: do too, And you know, Janelle mentions this because she's
- 18:45Speaker 1: going down to Las Vegas because we have Logan and
- 18:47Speaker 1: Michelle having purchased their first home and so they're going
- 18:50Speaker 1: to be hosting Thanksgiving, which is wonderful. But Janelle's like,
- 18:53Speaker 1: I don't know what's happening with Mary. I don't think
- 18:55Speaker 1: she's going to be with Cody and Robin, but I
- 18:57Speaker 1: hope she has somewhere to go. And I'm like, Janelle,
- 18:59Speaker 1: get up off your ass for real, and invite her
- 19:02Speaker 1: to Vegas. Hunter likes Mary. I think Logan likes Mary.
- 19:05Speaker 1: He certainly invited Mary to the wedding. There are some
- 19:08Speaker 1: kids that actually really like Mary. Yeah, and if she's
- 19:11Speaker 1: gonna be alone, You've got thirty years of history with
- 19:14Speaker 1: this woman, and yes some of that sucked, but like
- 19:16Speaker 1: you have, you have a lot of history with her,
- 19:19Speaker 1: like extend in Olive Branch, be a good person, Janelle.
- 19:23Speaker 2: There must have been something that happened, like off camera
- 19:26Speaker 2: or some shit that was said, or something to make
- 19:29Speaker 2: all of the family basically hate Mary, Like why is
- 19:32Speaker 2: Mary so a stret.
- 19:33Speaker 1: But everybody Like there's a lot of people who like Mary,
- 19:36Speaker 1: but I mean.
- 19:37Speaker 2: The wives don't, Christina and Janelle don't.
- 19:39Speaker 1: There's definitely things that went down with the wives. But
- 19:43Speaker 1: like a lot of the kids still have relationships with Mary.
- 19:46Speaker 1: So she should have been invited to somebody's Thanksgiving. And Christine,
- 19:49Speaker 1: if you could have gotten over it for McKelty and
- 19:52Speaker 1: been in Robin's presence, like could you not have done
- 19:55Speaker 1: that for Mary either? But no on McKelty has no forgiveness. Yeah,
- 19:58Speaker 1: no forgiveness whatso for Mary? But it is Christine, That's
- 20:02Speaker 1: what I'm.
- 20:02Speaker 2: Saying though, is like, it's weird if some of these
- 20:04Speaker 2: adult kids have relationships with her, but then nobody's inviting
- 20:07Speaker 2: her to Thanksgiving. Like, I know, she was sick, so
- 20:10Speaker 2: obviously she didn't go anywhere during Thanksgiving. She's like, yeah,
- 20:14Speaker 2: this is just God on kolab telling me like I
- 20:16Speaker 2: should be home and it's fine, but I'm just like
- 20:19Speaker 2: this is sad.
- 20:20Speaker 1: Yeah, but maybe the kids, I mean they're in the
- 20:22Speaker 1: midst of a divorce. Maybe the kids don't really know
- 20:24Speaker 1: about Mary's divorce at this time, because again, Mary's like,
- 20:27Speaker 1: I'm not talking to people about it, right, So maybe
- 20:30Speaker 1: the kids that like her don't necessarily know this, and
- 20:34Speaker 1: so they don't know to invite her. I don't know,
- 20:35Speaker 1: but Janelle knows, Yeah, Christine knows. Just yeah, I just
- 20:39Speaker 1: feel like it's it really sucks for Mary. And also,
- 20:42Speaker 1: there wasn't enough Mary in this episode. No, Like we
- 20:45Speaker 1: see some like flashes of fire from her on the
- 20:48Speaker 1: couch with her commentary, like give us more of that.
- 20:51Speaker 1: We need a lot more of that. Where was she?
- 20:54Speaker 2: No, we just had to spend the majority of the
- 20:56Speaker 2: episode with Cody and Robins fighting in the snow. Why
- 20:59Speaker 2: I don't know to get us to like them. I mean, seriously,
- 21:03Speaker 2: it felt like a pr thing.
- 21:04Speaker 1: Oh one hundred percent.
- 21:06Speaker 2: It was ridiculous.
- 21:07Speaker 1: But I'm just I'm just sitting here thinking, like, do
- 21:09Speaker 1: they get paid more if they're featured more in an episode?
- 21:13Speaker 1: Because I think with Real Housewives it did come down
- 21:15Speaker 1: to that, like it was based on how many scenes
- 21:18Speaker 1: you actually filmed. That is what dictated how much they
- 21:22Speaker 1: got in terms of pay. I don't know that they're
- 21:24Speaker 1: doing that with the Sister Wives, but maybe they are.
- 21:27Speaker 1: And I'm just like, I don't need this. I don't
- 21:29Speaker 1: need them on my television. I'm just waiting for the
- 21:32Speaker 1: moment where you fire them, for get rid of them,
- 21:35Speaker 1: and then I just want to read on Daily Mail
- 21:38Speaker 1: what happens two years from now when they're bankrupt, divorced
- 21:41Speaker 1: and unhappy. That's terrible. I don't want to wish ill
- 21:44Speaker 1: on them, but like, I just that's the extent of
- 21:48Speaker 1: my need for these people on my television.
- 21:50Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, if Robin actually left him though, I mean,
- 21:54Speaker 2: that would be so good. I would love a spinoff
- 21:57Speaker 2: with just the four wives. That would be so fucking awesome.
- 22:00Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd watch that.
- 22:01Speaker 2: I would totally watch that.
- 22:02Speaker 1: Yeah, no, Cody. Oh my god, if Robin left Cody,
- 22:06Speaker 1: he would be destroyed, dude.
- 22:09Speaker 2: He'd become a drunk.
- 22:10Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's already becoming a drum Oh my god.
- 22:12Speaker 1: After getting the lawsuit paperwork girl, and having to pull
- 22:17Speaker 1: his house down from the market. You know, he was
- 22:20Speaker 1: out at that Mexican restaurant, Honey, drinking shots of tequila
- 22:24Speaker 1: for sure, yep, which I'm not gonna celebrate that, but
- 22:28Speaker 1: I'm just like, yeah, he's already probably a drunk.
- 22:31Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 22:31Speaker 1: But one thing I learned in that scene of this
- 22:35Speaker 1: fake argument was like, Cody doesn't love anybody else but Robin.
- 22:40Speaker 1: He probably loves their kids together or whatever, but like
- 22:43Speaker 1: she is the one person in his life that he's
- 22:46Speaker 1: desperately in love with.
- 22:47Speaker 2: Oh yeah, very toxic though, so toxic, like such a
- 22:51Speaker 2: toxic attachment, codependency. It's wild. Let's just get to this argument, okay,
- 22:56Speaker 2: because I don't give a shit about Christine talking about
- 22:57Speaker 2: David bald Head and his beautiful that's great, happy for you,
- 23:02Speaker 2: you're married already. But Cody and Robin allegedly had a
- 23:06Speaker 2: fight off camera. Cody drove away to some speece and
- 23:11Speaker 2: then he comes back.
- 23:12Speaker 1: Why weren't the cameras there? Why weren't the cameras there though,
- 23:16Speaker 1: Like when Janelle fights with Cody at Christmas, the cameras
- 23:20Speaker 1: are there. Yeah, So, but the cameras are never there
- 23:22Speaker 1: with Cody and Robin. We never see any of this
- 23:25Speaker 1: type of drama for them. And so he comes back,
- 23:28Speaker 1: and so she rushes outside so we don't get to
- 23:31Speaker 1: go in the house again. Why she rushes outside to
- 23:34Speaker 1: talk to him before he gets in the house because
- 23:36Speaker 1: they left it in sort of a bad place. Sure,
- 23:39Speaker 1: And so then she goes and stands on the mark
- 23:42Speaker 1: on the concrete driveway that has been shoveled so that
- 23:45Speaker 1: they can film. Yeah, and we're supposed to believe this
- 23:48Speaker 1: is a spontaneous moment between these people.
- 23:50Speaker 2: Yes, because Tlse thinks we're all stupid. Yeah, yeah, so
- 23:54Speaker 2: we believe we're pretending like this is a spontaneous fight,
- 23:57Speaker 2: that they're actually mad at each other. Robin's talking about
- 24:01Speaker 2: how Cody needs to make more effort with his kids.
- 24:04Speaker 2: She's really putting pressure on him to make the effort.
- 24:07Speaker 1: And that's what caused the fight in the first place,
- 24:08Speaker 1: which made him have to leave.
- 24:09Speaker 2: Because he got triggered, right, he got triggered, But I
- 24:12Speaker 2: forbid he gets triggered pressure, Oh, because he's so mad.
- 24:15Speaker 2: Apparently he's so mad at his kids because they've all
- 24:18Speaker 2: betrayed him and he doesn't understand what he did wrong.
- 24:21Speaker 2: It's like all the same bullshit over.
- 24:23Speaker 1: And over and over and over.
- 24:26Speaker 2: And over over and over again. And then Robin with
- 24:29Speaker 2: her fake tears.
- 24:30Speaker 1: I don't know, let's let's drill down into this, because
- 24:33Speaker 1: there were parts of this conversation, even though I believe
- 24:37Speaker 1: deeply that it was rehearsed, yeah, and they thought about
- 24:40Speaker 1: it before him, there were parts of this conversation where
- 24:43Speaker 1: I thought Robin was being real and like Robin was
- 24:47Speaker 1: accessing maybe some emotion about her bio dad, about her
- 24:52Speaker 1: childhood or whatever that was real that she was trying
- 24:55Speaker 1: to conjure up so she could have a seemingly real
- 24:59Speaker 1: moment on the televison. Yeah, which wasn't real. But I
- 25:02Speaker 1: mean there were some parts of it that I actually
- 25:04Speaker 1: felt a little bit for Robin.
- 25:06Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. I mean there were little parts, like
- 25:09Speaker 2: about the bio dad thing. I can see a world
- 25:11Speaker 2: where she is actually upset at Cody for how he's
- 25:14Speaker 2: handling and mishandling his relationships with his kids, Like I
- 25:17Speaker 2: can see where that would be a point of contention
- 25:20Speaker 2: for them. But the thing that frustrates me about it
- 25:23Speaker 2: is that she's not acknowledging how she contributed to any
- 25:26Speaker 2: of it, right, and how she maybe fucked up a
- 25:28Speaker 2: lot of her relationships with the kids and caused a
- 25:31Speaker 2: lot of division, Like Okay, yeah, you might be sad
- 25:34Speaker 2: or upset that he's not handling his relationships well, but
- 25:37Speaker 2: like what about you? Yeah, and also miss me with
- 25:41Speaker 2: this whole, like I don't know what you could have
- 25:43Speaker 2: done wrong, Like they're upset because of the divorce, blah
- 25:46Speaker 2: blah blah, as if you didn't have Cody ninety ninety
- 25:49Speaker 2: percent of the fucking time.
- 25:50Speaker 1: Right, So continuing to lie like yeah, and some moments
- 25:54Speaker 1: she seems to be pushing him toward the best thing,
- 25:58Speaker 1: and then another moment she's pulling him back into the
- 26:00Speaker 1: delusion that he's currently operating under. And honestly, I do
- 26:03Speaker 1: wonder if he's mentally ill. I do wonder if he's
- 26:06Speaker 1: on like high doses of steroids or human growth hormone
- 26:10Speaker 1: or testosterone or something like he's just wiggedy whack facts,
- 26:14Speaker 1: and so she's pulling him back into his delusion when
- 26:16Speaker 1: she says like yeah, when he's like, what could they
- 26:19Speaker 1: possibly think that I did wrong? And she's like, well,
- 26:21Speaker 1: it maybe could be the whole COVID thing because they
- 26:24Speaker 1: thought that, you know, you made the rules so you
- 26:26Speaker 1: didn't have to visit them, which is ridiculous. No, it's
- 26:29Speaker 1: not ridiculous. Yeah, it's literally not ridiculous what happened because
- 26:33Speaker 1: Gabe and Garrison said that he didn't come by for
- 26:35Speaker 1: like seven months, So not ridiculous. And yeah, COVID was scary.
- 26:38Speaker 1: I get it. Yeah, I get you were scared, Robin,
- 26:40Speaker 1: But did you get vaccinated though? Did we see you
- 26:43Speaker 1: at the mall though? Like you were still out and about.
- 26:46Speaker 1: You still had nanny's coming in and out of your
- 26:48Speaker 1: house that lived elsewhere, and we're doing other shit like
- 26:50Speaker 1: grocery shoppings, so fuck off. Right, absolutely facilitated that. Yeah,
- 26:55Speaker 1: and it's not ridiculous. The kids have valid points. Here's
- 27:00Speaker 1: the thing, why is he so mad at them? He
- 27:04Speaker 1: keeps using the word betrayal as well as like collusion,
- 27:10Speaker 1: like they're all meeting on zoo to talk about him
- 27:14Speaker 1: and plot against him, like that's not happening, Cody, You're
- 27:17Speaker 1: fucking crazy, Like collusion and betrayal, but like, how how
- 27:23Speaker 1: did they betray you? Like the only thing I can
- 27:26Speaker 1: see that they have done that might have escalated the
- 27:29Speaker 1: situation is they got really mad at you for the
- 27:32Speaker 1: shit that you did. And he even admits on the couch,
- 27:36Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, I should not have told my boys
- 27:39Speaker 1: that they needed to get the fuck out at a
- 27:41Speaker 1: certain age. That was a power trip. And oh yeah,
- 27:44Speaker 1: by the way, I probably should have gone to Isabelle's surgery.
- 27:48Speaker 1: That like was a bomb in the family and that
- 27:50Speaker 1: made a lot of people mad. And it was Hunter, yep,
- 27:53Speaker 1: because Hunter actually went for her surgery. And Hunter, on
- 27:57Speaker 1: many occasions has stepped in and played the father role
- 28:02Speaker 1: for a lot of these kids, so he was there.
- 28:05Speaker 2: So it's like, you can admit to those two things
- 28:08Speaker 2: he did wrong, But what about all the other shit?
- 28:10Speaker 2: What about saying that you never loved any of their moms?
- 28:13Speaker 2: What about calling your kids' assholes and narcissists on national television?
- 28:17Speaker 2: Like what about not ever seeing them and not being
- 28:20Speaker 2: at the home and not being present in their lives? Like,
- 28:22Speaker 2: how about we take it a step further, and that's
- 28:25Speaker 2: where like he is actually crazy because he thinks that
- 28:29Speaker 2: they're betraying him because he doesn't think he's done anything wrong,
- 28:33Speaker 2: Like he doesn't think he deserves anybody being mad at him,
- 28:37Speaker 2: because he's like, well, what did I do wrong?
- 28:39Speaker 1: Though?
- 28:40Speaker 2: Like you're admitting to these two faults. But then in
- 28:42Speaker 2: this scene with Robin saying, what do they think I did?
- 28:45Speaker 2: I don't know what I did.
- 28:47Speaker 1: I mean, And even if we take him at his
- 28:50Speaker 1: word that he was visiting all the wives equally, like,
- 28:52Speaker 1: let's say we believe that just the two things that
- 28:55Speaker 1: you mentioned are enough.
- 28:57Speaker 2: Yeah, Like really, yeah?
- 28:58Speaker 1: Asking Janelle to kick your kids out during COVID during
- 29:01Speaker 1: the pandemic because they were too old to live with
- 29:04Speaker 1: her and forcing her hand was so shitty. Yeah, Like,
- 29:08Speaker 1: the shittiest thing you have ever did as a human
- 29:11Speaker 1: being on planet Earth is not be there for Isabelle
- 29:15Speaker 1: and then talk to her like before she even left, Like,
- 29:18Speaker 1: are you going to come back and be one of
- 29:19Speaker 1: those bitter wives because your daddy wasn't there for you?
- 29:22Speaker 1: Like the most shitty thing you've ever done in your
- 29:25Speaker 1: life is that?
- 29:26Speaker 2: Ye?
- 29:27Speaker 1: Just that alone would warrant these other kids who love
- 29:31Speaker 1: Isabelle to step up and say, Dad, you're a fucking
- 29:33Speaker 1: piece of trash right for not being there for Isabelle,
- 29:36Speaker 1: What the fuck are you doing? And also not contributing
- 29:38Speaker 1: to the price of her surgery, not being there when
- 29:41Speaker 1: they returned to Arizona. He wasn't around, he wasn't helping.
- 29:45Speaker 1: Christine was doing all that shit by herself. Just that
- 29:48Speaker 1: alone is enough to be mad, and you're mad that
- 29:52Speaker 1: they're mad. That's what a narcissist does. Yep, Like they
- 29:56Speaker 1: do some bullshit, they play in your face. You have
- 29:59Speaker 1: a regular nor a reaction to that, and then they're
- 30:01Speaker 1: now they're pissed off because you're reacting to them.
- 30:03Speaker 2: Yeah, and then even when Robin is like fake pleading
- 30:07Speaker 2: to him and being like, you should reach out to them.
- 30:09Speaker 2: You should be camping out on their doorstep. You should
- 30:11Speaker 2: be trying to message them, even if they reject you,
- 30:13Speaker 2: because then maybe one day they'll come back to you.
- 30:15Speaker 2: He's like, no, they should have to come to me
- 30:19Speaker 2: when I'm doing better, and then maybe we can have
- 30:22Speaker 2: a conversation. So it's like it's still everybody has to
- 30:25Speaker 2: come back to you, Like you don't have to make
- 30:27Speaker 2: any of the effort, Like when he was talking about
- 30:29Speaker 2: Madison and calling her a gossip yet again, like constantly
- 30:34Speaker 2: calling her a gossip, which I'm just like, what is
- 30:36Speaker 2: what the fuck is she gossiping about? She's just talking
- 30:38Speaker 2: about how you're an asshole. Yeah, that's the truth.
- 30:40Speaker 1: She's talking with her family members about how crazy you've become.
- 30:45Speaker 1: It's fucking worrying. It's wild. Yes.
- 30:48Speaker 2: And then when you're making some dumb excuse on TV
- 30:52Speaker 2: about why you haven't seen her kids at all? Oh, well,
- 30:55Speaker 2: she moved across the country. How could she expect a
- 30:58Speaker 2: grandparent to be present in the grandkids' lives?
- 31:01Speaker 1: That's just not Janelle. Is Christine? Is Janelle's traveling over
- 31:05Speaker 1: there to see her grand baby. It's been three and
- 31:07Speaker 1: a half years. Yeah, as of that point in filming,
- 31:10Speaker 1: and you haven't seen Evie. Do you even call? Do
- 31:13Speaker 1: you FaceTime? What are you doing to maintain that relationship?
- 31:16Speaker 1: And another thing that he said that was so crazy
- 31:18Speaker 1: to me, Beatrice was like, well, when I'm feeling better, like,
- 31:22Speaker 1: when I'm done lamenting what has been done to me,
- 31:26Speaker 1: then I will reach out selectively to the kids who
- 31:29Speaker 1: are open to me. Yeah, like the ones that have
- 31:31Speaker 1: active wounds though, like Garrison at the time, like Madison,
- 31:36Speaker 1: like Hunter, the ones that have actual they are harboring
- 31:39Speaker 1: offenses against me. I'm not going to talk to them. Yeah,
- 31:41Speaker 1: like maybe Gabe because he's a little EmPATH and he's
- 31:43Speaker 1: a little sweet pea. Maybe Savannah. Maybe Savannah is still
- 31:47Speaker 1: open to me. Member, Savannah, that daughter that you didn't
- 31:49Speaker 1: see for Christmas. But it's it's on his timeline when
- 31:54Speaker 1: he's feeling okay, like he doesn't have the bandwidth right
- 31:57Speaker 1: now to help his children heal from the wounds that
- 32:00Speaker 1: he inflicted. Oh, bank god, maddening, it's crazy making.
- 32:05Speaker 2: It's so infuriating too, because I'm like, you created this
- 32:08Speaker 2: huge ass fucking family. Like that means that you're responsible. Yeah,
- 32:11Speaker 2: all of these lives that you created. Sorry, it's hard, seriously,
- 32:15Speaker 2: Like fuck the wives, Like if you want to neglect them,
- 32:17Speaker 2: fine whatever, but you're responsible for these fucking kids, dude,
- 32:20Speaker 2: Like you created all of them and you destroyed all
- 32:23Speaker 2: the relationships with them, and now you're gonna be like, oh,
- 32:26Speaker 2: it's too much.
- 32:27Speaker 1: Yeah, it's none safe for me. He starts crying. Oh
- 32:30Speaker 1: my god, yeah, right over the betrayal and the anger
- 32:32Speaker 1: because he's so angry. I'm like, oh my god, m River,
- 32:38Speaker 1: it was just it was wild. I know I say
- 32:40Speaker 1: it a lot, but it was like, it's literally wild.
- 32:42Speaker 1: And also it's the same like I feel like we
- 32:45Speaker 1: spent all of season eighteen with him saying the same shit.
- 32:49Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And back to why he thinks his kids
- 32:53Speaker 1: betrayed him. Listen, Cody, just by getting up on camera
- 32:58Speaker 1: in front of the entire nation and telling us that
- 33:01Speaker 1: you never loved these women, how do you think that
- 33:05Speaker 1: sounds to your kids?
- 33:07Speaker 2: Right?
- 33:08Speaker 1: What do you think they feel knowing, Oh, my dad
- 33:11Speaker 1: never loved my mom? What does that say about me
- 33:15Speaker 1: and my life and how I was conceived? I mean,
- 33:18Speaker 1: wouldn't that make a child feel invalid in certain emotional ways?
- 33:23Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like make their whole life feel like it
- 33:25Speaker 2: was a lie.
- 33:26Speaker 1: And even if it were true, which is not true,
- 33:28Speaker 1: you loved those women and you had a million children
- 33:31Speaker 1: with them. Yea, even if it were true, I mean,
- 33:34Speaker 1: wouldn't you as a parent, no not to say that
- 33:37Speaker 1: out loud? No, right, keep your inside thoughts inside your head, dummy.
- 33:41Speaker 2: I mean seriously, Like, when my parents got divorced, my
- 33:44Speaker 2: mom kept all of her wedding photos and I was like,
- 33:47Speaker 2: why'd you keep them? Mom, Like don't you hate dad now?
- 33:50Speaker 2: And she's like, well, no, like I did love them,
- 33:52Speaker 2: But this was also your guys's childhood, this was your life,
- 33:55Speaker 2: like you saw us together. These are important. I'm going
- 33:58Speaker 2: to keep these for you guys if you want them
- 34:00Speaker 2: in the future. And I always like respected her for that,
- 34:03Speaker 2: and now as an adult, I'm like, oh, I'm glad
- 34:05Speaker 2: that she kept these because these are special in some
- 34:07Speaker 2: kind of way because these were my parents. But no,
- 34:10Speaker 2: Cody just talking so much, Matt.
- 34:13Speaker 1: She crashes these women.
- 34:15Speaker 2: I mean, calling Christine disgusting, calling Mary boring.
- 34:19Speaker 1: Not fun fun, I'm not curious.
- 34:21Speaker 2: Janelle only wants me because I'm hot, Like all of
- 34:24Speaker 2: this stupid bullshit, and then you wonder why your kids
- 34:27Speaker 2: hate you. Yeah, it's wild.
- 34:29Speaker 1: Is it is insane? It isn't We are watching insanity
- 34:32Speaker 1: unfold before us. And there were moments when I felt
- 34:36Speaker 1: like Robin really was trying to get through to him,
- 34:39Speaker 1: and he kept cutting her off and she wasn't able
- 34:41Speaker 1: to finish a sentence, and I think she was trying
- 34:44Speaker 1: to reel him in. But he's unrelable. Yeah, he cannot call.
- 34:48Speaker 1: He's not tethered to this reality. He's somewhere else in
- 34:51Speaker 1: some hellish hellscape dimension, living in this fucking nightmare in
- 34:55Speaker 1: his mind. Yeah, and it doesn't have to be that way.
- 34:58Speaker 1: This way, he could actually just call his he could
- 35:00Speaker 1: call Hunter and he could say, listen, I know we
- 35:02Speaker 1: have things between us and I want to sit down
- 35:05Speaker 1: with you and I want to talk about it. There
- 35:07Speaker 1: are some things that I need to say and definitely
- 35:09Speaker 1: need to own. But until we can do that, Hunter,
- 35:12Speaker 1: please no, I love you exactly. I love you so much.
- 35:14Speaker 2: It's as easy as that.
- 35:15Speaker 1: It's parrot. Call Maddie and tell her that, or I
- 35:19Speaker 1: did in a voicemail. If she doesn't pick up or
- 35:21Speaker 1: talk to Caleb too, like, just do the bare fucking minimum.
- 35:25Speaker 1: And I think Robin was asking him to do that. Yeah,
- 35:28Speaker 1: but he's like, no, I mean, I'm just lamenting still.
- 35:30Speaker 1: I'm still in my sad place. I'm still in my
- 35:33Speaker 1: pain body and I'm not willing to give it up yet.
- 35:36Speaker 2: Well, and then he has the goal to be like,
- 35:38Speaker 2: but I want to fix us first. Yeah, I want
- 35:41Speaker 2: to focus on you and me, and she like melts
- 35:44Speaker 2: at that. It's so weird.
- 35:45Speaker 1: Thank you for saying that. Thank you so much for
- 35:48Speaker 1: saying that.
- 35:48Speaker 2: So that's where I'm like, Robin, fuck you, because you
- 35:52Speaker 2: enable him so much. Like I could believe a world
- 35:56Speaker 2: where she is upset at him, probab, he's handling this
- 35:59Speaker 2: and she is trying to get him to be better.
- 36:01Speaker 2: But then you go right back into it when he
- 36:03Speaker 2: says something like, but I love you. I want to
- 36:06Speaker 2: work at our marriage. Eh, yeah, Like I mean, you
- 36:09Speaker 2: guys aren't suffering. No, maybe financially, but not in this
- 36:13Speaker 2: filming probably No.
- 36:15Speaker 1: I mean I think maybe it's the holidays. I think
- 36:19Speaker 1: Robin loves the holidays. She's probably feeling the loss of
- 36:22Speaker 1: the entire family. She's probably in her feelings to some degree.
- 36:26Speaker 1: But it's just it's so disturbing to hear him say
- 36:31Speaker 1: looking at the landscape of his life and how his
- 36:33Speaker 1: family has absolutely exploded, and so many people are hurting
- 36:37Speaker 1: for him to say, Yeah, but I'd rather focus on
- 36:40Speaker 1: me and you because you and I aren't doing well
- 36:42Speaker 1: because of all this stuff that has happened. I want
- 36:44Speaker 1: to work on us. I'm like, oh my god, And Robin,
- 36:48Speaker 1: if you truly love him, help him to be a
- 36:51Speaker 1: better father, right, guide him in the way that he
- 36:54Speaker 1: should go, just like you want him to guide you
- 36:56Speaker 1: in the way that you should go. And I think
- 36:58Speaker 1: she wants us to believe that that's what she's doing
- 37:01Speaker 1: right now. But it's a little too little, and it's
- 37:04Speaker 1: a little too late, and plus I don't believe it.
- 37:06Speaker 1: I think this is pryep. This is her trying to
- 37:10Speaker 1: give the illusion that she's with everybody else and she's
- 37:14Speaker 1: recognizing all the issues and they're all Cody's problem because
- 37:17Speaker 1: I haven't done anything wrong. I would never do that.
- 37:20Speaker 1: I would never let him stay here and not go
- 37:22Speaker 1: to another Wives home, right, which she said last week,
- 37:25Speaker 1: But you did, you did what you did? I just like,
- 37:31Speaker 1: this is this what the show is? Are we just
- 37:33Speaker 1: having people lie? Yeah, constantly lie and then fake boring
- 37:37Speaker 1: shit like can't we have a conversation that's real? No,
- 37:42Speaker 1: that's what the gods are doing.
- 37:43Speaker 2: I know the pods are.
- 37:44Speaker 1: Having the conversations that these blowhards and assholes won't have.
- 37:48Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so wild and like with Sister Wives, like
- 37:52Speaker 2: you guys have been on TV for fucking almost twenty
- 37:55Speaker 2: seasons now, it's been insane, Like how much we have
- 37:58Speaker 2: seen into your guys' live So I don't know why
- 38:02Speaker 2: they have to like skirt around things so they don't
- 38:04Speaker 2: want personal things to be on TV. I'm like, what
- 38:06Speaker 2: are you fucking talking about? Your whole life is on TV. Yeah,
- 38:09Speaker 2: that's how everybody knows you. Yeah, and I'm sure there's
- 38:11Speaker 2: things that we don't see behind the scenes, and so maybe,
- 38:13Speaker 2: but we suss it out, yeah, and we're probably usually right,
- 38:17Speaker 2: yeah exactly.
- 38:18Speaker 1: So just tell the truth. Yeah.
- 38:20Speaker 2: And like the thing with Robin, I was talking with
- 38:23Speaker 2: Ethel about this, and we were having a discussion because
- 38:25Speaker 2: she was feeling for Robin too, and I'm like, yeah,
- 38:27Speaker 2: I could feel for her in some aspects of the conversation,
- 38:30Speaker 2: but it's hard for me to like full on believe
- 38:34Speaker 2: Robin or think that she has some good in her
- 38:37Speaker 2: because she's married to Cody fucking Brown. And if you're
- 38:39Speaker 2: married to somebody like this, I mean, and you're enabling
- 38:43Speaker 2: him on TV, like we see this happening in real time,
- 38:48Speaker 2: you're a piece of shit too.
- 38:50Speaker 1: Yeah, And you're looking at twenty twenty two and we're
- 38:52Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four and she's still with him, exactly,
- 38:55Speaker 1: And we have suffered the loss of Garrison, yep, and
- 38:58Speaker 1: she's still with him, yep, Like why yeah, if she
- 39:02Speaker 1: left him, then I'd be like, Okay, I can feel
- 39:04Speaker 1: for Robin. Maybe she was manipulated this whole entire time.
- 39:07Speaker 2: Maybe she's done as fuck. I don't know, but no,
- 39:09Speaker 2: she's still with him.
- 39:11Speaker 1: I mean, next week we see a preview where she's
- 39:14Speaker 1: in the bathroom and she's crying and she's like the
- 39:16Speaker 1: only thing I have left his prayers, And I'm like, okay,
- 39:18Speaker 1: well I'll watch it and hear what you have to say,
- 39:22Speaker 1: like there are other things that you could actually be doing,
- 39:24Speaker 1: because there are relationships that you, Robin, you have broken,
- 39:28Speaker 1: separate and apart from Cody. We hear Gabe also in
- 39:30Speaker 1: the previous saying, you know, Robin is committed to being
- 39:33Speaker 1: a victim at all times, and I don't see a
- 39:35Speaker 1: future where we're gonna be able to have a connection
- 39:38Speaker 1: based Robin. That's on you. So why aren't you camping
- 39:42Speaker 1: yourself out on doorsteps? Why aren't you making phone calls?
- 39:46Speaker 1: Why aren't you trying to make amends. You're only doing
- 39:48Speaker 1: this for the camera.
- 39:50Speaker 2: Exactly, even though she's telling the cameras like if I
- 39:53Speaker 2: was Cody, if I was in his position, I would
- 39:55Speaker 2: be camping out on the doorsteps. Oh, okay, would you?
- 39:57Speaker 2: Why aren't you you.
- 39:59Speaker 1: Only care about your own I thought I thought this
- 40:01Speaker 1: was your family. I thought you considered all of these
- 40:03Speaker 1: kids to be your children. Then why are you not
- 40:06Speaker 1: making the effort?
- 40:08Speaker 2: Because she's so sensitive? She wants to be respectful.
- 40:12Speaker 1: Now, there was some conjecture on Reddit about when this scene,
- 40:17Speaker 1: this argument was actually filmed. Some people thought that this
- 40:21Speaker 1: was actually filmed after the passing of Garrison. Stop it, Yes,
- 40:26Speaker 1: after the passing of Garrison, in an attempt to rehab
- 40:30Speaker 1: their image, And people were like, no, because Garrison passed
- 40:34Speaker 1: in March or April and there was no heavy snowfall.
- 40:37Speaker 1: And then people like, looked up the snowfalls in Flagstaff, bitch,
- 40:41Speaker 1: and there was snowfall. But I personally do not think
- 40:46Speaker 1: that this was filmed after the passing of Garrison. It
- 40:49Speaker 1: would have had to been right after the passing of Garrison.
- 40:53Speaker 1: You would have You would have to be so diabolical, Yeah,
- 40:56Speaker 1: so diabolical and demon possessed to do something like that.
- 40:59Speaker 1: Would I mean, he kind of is, but I don't think.
- 41:03Speaker 1: I don't think he would do that as a father
- 41:05Speaker 1: of someone who just lost his son.
- 41:07Speaker 2: That would be absolutely fucking horrid if that actually happened,
- 41:10Speaker 2: But I don't think it would be.
- 41:12Speaker 1: I mean, he seemed genuinely reactive to the wedding and
- 41:15Speaker 1: how some of the kids didn't want to talk to
- 41:16Speaker 1: him and around Madison scuttled her kids the way, like
- 41:18Speaker 1: he seemed stilled in the energy of that. So it
- 41:22Speaker 1: felt to me like it was connected to that. But
- 41:24Speaker 1: I mean, some people are calling it out and saying, no, my.
- 41:28Speaker 2: Godah well, I mean it's hard because we're speculating about
- 41:32Speaker 2: how they would all, how they all have reacted to
- 41:35Speaker 2: Garrison's passing, because we don't get to see that yet, right,
- 41:37Speaker 2: And also people are talking about how, based on the
- 41:41Speaker 2: editing of the show the episode so far, that they're
- 41:43Speaker 2: like cropping Garrison out or they're like, yes, taking out
- 41:46Speaker 2: footage where they maybe were talking about Garrison, like they're
- 41:49Speaker 2: really careful to like not mention him at all. And
- 41:53Speaker 2: maybe that's because of the family. Maybe the family just
- 41:55Speaker 2: didn't want to bring any of that up, which is fine,
- 41:58Speaker 2: Like I get it.
- 42:00Speaker 1: I personally think that we should be mentioned in Garrison,
- 42:03Speaker 1: maybe not necessarily the enmity that he has with his dad,
- 42:07Speaker 1: like that would be maybe problematic, but like featuring Garrison,
- 42:11Speaker 1: honoring Garrison. I feel like he should be a part
- 42:13Speaker 1: of this season. Like when Cody was talking about how
- 42:16Speaker 1: he went on the ski trip and he called Gabe
- 42:19Speaker 1: and he was talking about like the couple of kids
- 42:21Speaker 1: that he has tried to reach out to. It felt
- 42:24Speaker 1: like they edited out Garrison's name, Like he said, I
- 42:26Speaker 1: tried to call Garrison and Gabe and they edited out
- 42:29Speaker 1: Garrison's name. I'm like, why would you do that?
- 42:32Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe they're ashamed, maybe Cody's a shame.
- 42:34Speaker 2: Maybe the family was like, please, let's just not have
- 42:38Speaker 2: this vitriol be out the right way to do it.
- 42:41Speaker 2: I agree. I wish they could just be honest about it.
- 42:43Speaker 2: I wish we could fast forward and see maybe Cody
- 42:47Speaker 2: react to it, and maybe he'll I mean this wishful
- 42:51Speaker 2: thing thinking, but maybe he would have remorse.
- 42:53Speaker 1: Well, I think that we're actually seeing that because I
- 42:56Speaker 1: think with him on the couch in the blue shirt,
- 42:58Speaker 1: I think those are filmed two different times, and in
- 43:01Speaker 1: one of them, like his face is actually a little
- 43:03Speaker 1: heavier than in the other or the earlier I would
- 43:06Speaker 1: say interstitials, like in some of the interstitials on the couch,
- 43:10Speaker 1: he's pissed off, he's betrayed, and then in others he's like,
- 43:13Speaker 1: I hope that the twins can heal the family. I'm
- 43:16Speaker 1: hoping that at some point in the future I can
- 43:18Speaker 1: heal this with my kids, right, that there's hope for us. Like, so,
- 43:22Speaker 1: there seems to have been a change of heart. And
- 43:24Speaker 1: I wonder if some of this was filmed after the
- 43:27Speaker 1: passing of Garrison. I personally think so.
- 43:30Speaker 2: I would hope so, because that would be nice to
- 43:32Speaker 2: have a little bit of like growth, not growth, but
- 43:35Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, yeah, a little bit from.
- 43:38Speaker 1: The air of life. Where are you psychologically right?
- 43:41Speaker 2: Because we've been worried about that, Like, is Cody just
- 43:43Speaker 2: going to be a piece of fucking shit after Garrison's past.
- 43:46Speaker 1: He's going to crystallize in his narcissism.
- 43:49Speaker 2: Like is he gonna get worse or is he gonna
- 43:51Speaker 2: maybe show some emotion, some human elements to him? I
- 43:55Speaker 2: don't know, but it would be nice if we could
- 43:58Speaker 2: just have that current day.
- 44:01Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I feel like a lot of us
- 44:03Speaker 1: are still actively morning Garrison. Yeah, And like I don't
- 44:07Speaker 1: understand the choice not to show him.
- 44:09Speaker 2: I really don't like it.
- 44:11Speaker 1: I don't either.
- 44:11Speaker 2: It upsets me, but like I can also understand if
- 44:14Speaker 2: the family was just like, we don't really have the.
- 44:16Speaker 1: Same for my decision to make.
- 44:18Speaker 2: We don't want to talk about it. Like I get it,
- 44:20Speaker 2: but I don't like it.
- 44:22Speaker 1: Okay, So back to my statement at the top about
- 44:24Speaker 1: apologizing for timelines, Like in this episode alone, we switched
- 44:28Speaker 1: timelines in terms of footage, so much like when we
- 44:31Speaker 1: see Janelle outside gardening her tomatoes, yeah, you know, and
- 44:34Speaker 1: we're supposed to believe that she's in the same town
- 44:36Speaker 1: where Cody and Robin are having an argument in the
- 44:39Speaker 1: sty and she's actually in the garden outside of the
- 44:42Speaker 1: rental home, which was before the RV, before the dormitory apartment,
- 44:46Speaker 1: before the new apartment, so using footage from that. And
- 44:49Speaker 1: I was watching Nikki Haverstock and she was saying that
- 44:52Speaker 1: the Thanksgiving footage that they showed this year right or
- 44:56Speaker 1: in this episode was actually from the season last year,
- 45:01Speaker 1: which used the footage from the season before that. Dude,
- 45:05Speaker 1: So we've got editors that are pulling footage that they
- 45:08Speaker 1: think is from last year to recycle for this season,
- 45:11Speaker 1: but it's actually two seasons ago. It's like, Wow, TLC.
- 45:16Speaker 2: It's like that meme of that lady with the math equations.
- 45:19Speaker 1: Where am I? That's what I feel like. That's why
- 45:22Speaker 1: I don't necessarily know where we are. And like when
- 45:25Speaker 1: these interstitials are taking place. I think we can feel
- 45:28Speaker 1: confident with Michelt that these are more recent because she's thinner,
- 45:32Speaker 1: and we can feel confident that Mary is also giving
- 45:34Speaker 1: some interstitials that are more current because she's thinner, right, Like,
- 45:38Speaker 1: it's hard to tell with Christine because we've seen the
- 45:40Speaker 1: same sound bites from her. Everybody talks about everybody in
- 45:44Speaker 1: this over and ever, and I think we saw that
- 45:46Speaker 1: last year.
- 45:47Speaker 2: Yeah, so I don't know. Even when she was talking
- 45:49Speaker 2: about dating David and stuff, I'm like, you're recording this
- 45:52Speaker 2: as you're already married, Yes, right, the going on.
- 45:56Speaker 1: I'm talking about Gwen and Bia and hope that they
- 45:58Speaker 1: get married. They're already Mary A gretting married. It's already happened.
- 46:02Speaker 1: We're not stupid, they think we are. I know they do.
- 46:07Speaker 2: Did we want to talk about what kids called Cody
- 46:09Speaker 2: asshole and everything? So Cody said one kid called him
- 46:14Speaker 2: brain or said that he was brainwashing.
- 46:17Speaker 1: Them, he was manipulative, and that he brainwashed them yep.
- 46:21Speaker 2: And then another kid called him an asshole, and then
- 46:23Speaker 2: another kid called him a piece of trash? Right, that
- 46:26Speaker 2: was it? Right?
- 46:27Speaker 1: Yes? Yeah, so I think so who do we think
- 46:29Speaker 1: said what? Okay, so piece of trash? I think when
- 46:36Speaker 1: he said that, it was proximate to him talking about
- 46:39Speaker 1: Hunter dealing in contempt, like being contempt full of him, contemptful,
- 46:45Speaker 1: contemptuous of him. So I think piece of trash was
- 46:48Speaker 1: from Hunter.
- 46:49Speaker 2: I could see that with Isabelle, Yeah, for sure, I
- 46:53Speaker 2: could see that.
- 46:54Speaker 1: What about manipulative brainwasher?
- 46:58Speaker 2: I think probably Leon or Gwendolen one of them.
- 47:03Speaker 1: I'm thinking Leon too, because way back in the day,
- 47:06Speaker 1: Leon was the most gung ho sold out for polygamy, yeah,
- 47:10Speaker 1: and for the religion out of all the kids.
- 47:12Speaker 2: Oh yeah, one of the sister wife was one sold Yeah.
- 47:16Speaker 1: So then Leon then goes off to college and they
- 47:20Speaker 1: have all their experiences and looks back and it's like
- 47:25Speaker 1: that was really fucked up. Yeah, and how we had
- 47:28Speaker 1: to live our lives and like looking at my mom
- 47:31Speaker 1: and how isolated she's been, that's really fucked up. So
- 47:35Speaker 1: I can see Leon calling him totally manipulative for sure, Yeah,
- 47:38Speaker 1: which I mean, hey, Gwendolyn too. Why Gwendolen, Well.
- 47:41Speaker 2: Because the same kind of thing, like I think, you know,
- 47:44Speaker 2: Gwendolyn probably bought into a lot of it, like believed
- 47:48Speaker 2: in polygamy and then got out of it, went to
- 47:51Speaker 2: college also, you know, got married to a woman and everything,
- 47:55Speaker 2: so she realized, Okay, this is a bunch of bologney.
- 47:59Speaker 1: And you don't even believe it anymore. Exactly like they
- 48:04Speaker 1: were indoctrinated so deeply and now all of a sudden,
- 48:08Speaker 1: you don't believe anymore, and you're not a part of
- 48:11Speaker 1: the faith anymore. And you put me through that, I
- 48:13Speaker 1: would be so mad for sure. By the way, I
- 48:16Speaker 1: saw online that Aurora and Brianna are now going to
- 48:22Speaker 1: an Assembly of God church. What yeah, so they're not
- 48:26Speaker 1: going to an LDS church anymore. They are now with
- 48:31Speaker 1: Assembly of Gods and and they're actually featured on the
- 48:33Speaker 1: website like the youth program I think, or Brianna plays
- 48:38Speaker 1: music for the band the worship team. Of course, Assemblies
- 48:41Speaker 1: of God they're Pentecostal, they're not Mormons, honey.
- 48:44Speaker 2: Okay, I was gonna say, I'm like, I don't know.
- 48:45Speaker 1: Know they're there. I was in the when I was
- 48:49Speaker 1: a missionary, I was in the assemblies of God. Honey,
- 48:51Speaker 1: these are the ones that are speaking in tongues. They're
- 48:54Speaker 1: rolling around on the floor, they're getting slain in the spirits.
- 48:58Speaker 1: Very absolutely, very charismatic. So that's an interesting switch up.
- 49:02Speaker 2: Religiously for me. Ah, that is interesting.
- 49:04Speaker 1: So Robin must know that. I'm wondering if Robin and
- 49:07Speaker 1: or Cody also.
- 49:08Speaker 2: Attend, maybe that's their new faith. Maybe that would be
- 49:12Speaker 2: why maybe that would be crazy, Okay. And then who
- 49:15Speaker 2: called Cody and asshole?
- 49:17Speaker 1: Oh god, it could be anybody. Yeah, probably Madison.
- 49:20Speaker 2: Probably. I just think of Madison, Yeah, totally, because I
- 49:22Speaker 2: would say that. Yeah, I'd be like, you're an asshole, dad.
- 49:24Speaker 1: Yeah, but any of the kids would say that. I mean,
- 49:26Speaker 1: Gabe could say that. Garrison could have absolutely said that. Probably, Yeah,
- 49:30Speaker 1: one of the boys.
- 49:31Speaker 2: Maybe several of the kids said that.
- 49:32Speaker 1: Peyden, Yeah, well that's true. Oh, we didn't mention that
- 49:36Speaker 1: Payden actually went to Las Vegas to have Thanksgiving with Janelle.
- 49:41Speaker 2: That was sweet love that, yeah, because he was the
- 49:44Speaker 2: only boy in Christine's family, so he kind of gravitated
- 49:46Speaker 2: towards Janelle's boys.
- 49:48Speaker 1: I love that it is and Janelle accepts him. One
- 49:52Speaker 1: thing that I noticed was how Christine was talking about
- 49:58Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't think it was the
- 49:59Speaker 1: previous so I don't know if it was in regards
- 50:01Speaker 1: to Thanksgiving or what. But she's like, I consider Janelle's
- 50:05Speaker 1: kids to be my kids. Yeah, And I'm like, what
- 50:07Speaker 1: about Leon? I know, right, Leon went to your wedding.
- 50:11Speaker 2: Leon seems so far removed from everybody, And.
- 50:14Speaker 1: I like, wouldn't you also include Leon? And saying that
- 50:18Speaker 1: do you not do it because of Mary?
- 50:21Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 50:21Speaker 1: I feel bad for Leon in that moment.
- 50:23Speaker 2: I know, but maybe Leon wants it that way. Maybebe
- 50:26Speaker 2: Leon is like, funk, all you please do not mention
- 50:28Speaker 2: me out. Maybe not a part of this family.
- 50:30Speaker 1: I would respect it.
- 50:31Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I get it. That's it, right, I
- 50:35Speaker 2: think so.
- 50:35Speaker 1: I mean, there's a preview.
- 50:37Speaker 2: Christine still dating David. Oh my god, what, oh my god,
- 50:40Speaker 2: Wow a new day. Oh my god. He's stole amasing
- 50:43Speaker 2: his eyes beautiful. He's an actual man, yeah, not a dude,
- 50:48Speaker 2: not a guy. He's a real man, not a bro h,
- 50:51Speaker 2: not a surfer, and then Gabe saying, Robin plays the
- 50:58Speaker 2: victim all the time to get her way facts, and
- 51:01Speaker 2: then Janelle says her kids have a problem with her. Yes, yeah.
- 51:06Speaker 1: Janelle says that many of our kids have a problem
- 51:09Speaker 1: with Robin, which is true.
- 51:12Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I have a problem with Robin.
- 51:14Speaker 1: We all have a problem with Robin.
- 51:16Speaker 2: And then Robin crying in her closet and praying to
- 51:19Speaker 2: God on Colab and Cody also saying that he's praying
- 51:25Speaker 2: prayer is the only thing they can save them or something.
- 51:27Speaker 2: I don't care.
- 51:28Speaker 1: He's praying for him and Robin. Yeah, that's it. Yeah,
- 51:31Speaker 1: It's just that's the priority.
- 51:32Speaker 2: Sweet break, dancing Pussity.
- 51:34Speaker 1: Yes, in them Dicel dreams.
- 51:37Speaker 2: Do you think she still has those?
- 51:38Speaker 1: No?
- 51:39Speaker 2: You think she still wears them from time to time
- 51:41Speaker 2: and they role playing I dot it and she PAGs them.
- 51:43Speaker 1: Oh god, I don't think so. No, she doesn't have
- 51:46Speaker 1: the ris anymore, girl, she does? She does not. Well,
- 51:49Speaker 1: is there anything else that we want to stay to
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- 52:08Speaker 1: We will be back later this week to wrap up
- 52:11Speaker 1: Welcome to Platfill Season FINALEBU and also to continue our
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- 52:23Speaker 1: please do not forget that we have nothing but love
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- 52:26Speaker 2: And Pease owlights my boy. Sorry. Yeah,