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Speaker 1: I don't think this is about race. If I talk
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Speaker 1: about identity politics for example of any kind, I think
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Speaker 1: it's all feminine like, and that also comes out of
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Speaker 1: the political leaning. The divide is not left and right.
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Speaker 1: It is male and female. It's just that they tend to,
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Speaker 1: you know, like they tend to collectivize. In the left
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Speaker 1: or the right. The women tend to be more left
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Speaker 1: because leftism prioritizes security, and it prioritizes, you know, like
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Speaker 1: looking out for the people who are disenfranchised or in need,
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Speaker 1: and so it has like this more compassionate compassionate put
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Speaker 1: in quotes, because I don't think that's how it usually goes,
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Speaker 1: but that's sort of like where it comes from. And
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Speaker 1: the right is more masculine. It's more interested in liberty
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Speaker 1: and freedom. And so that that's why we have two wings,
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Speaker 1: because we have two sexes. All right, Hello everybody, and
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Speaker 1: But anyway, what's going on here? All right, So we're
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Speaker 1: going to be looking at or talking about this essay
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Speaker 1: that I thought was pretty interesting called the Great Feminization.
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Speaker 1: And I noticed the woman Helen Andrews who wrote it,
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Speaker 1: she has been She wrote it on Compact, which is
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Speaker 1: a website. It's kind of a it's a conservative Libertarian
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Speaker 1: a website. I don't go there very often, but that's
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Speaker 1: you know, kind of like just so you know where
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Speaker 1: this is coming from in terms of like the mental headspace.
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Speaker 1: And ever since she's written this and posted this on Compact,
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Speaker 1: it's been doing the rounds and everyone has an opinion
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Speaker 1: on it, everyone's chiming in on it, and I think
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Speaker 1: it's really fascinating because the stuff that she's bringing up,
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Speaker 1: we've been talking about it for a long time, the
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Speaker 1: same phenomenon. And I guess what it means for me
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Speaker 1: is that these talking points are breaking into the mainstream more.
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Speaker 1: And I mean like in a way that was probably
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Speaker 1: like would have been completely unacceptable like five years ago,
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Speaker 1: maybe ten years ago. Yeah, And so like now it's
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Speaker 1: it's really become like a mainstream thing. And if there's time,
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Speaker 1: I get. I get that there are people who have
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Speaker 1: so yeah, I carved my first pumpkin and I decorated this,
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Speaker 1: So I'm like, go go to town. But anyway, so
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Speaker 1: let me give you guys a little bit of a
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Speaker 1: short and dirty hello vasu ericson welcome and again, if
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Speaker 1: So okay, well just the moment here, let me just
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Speaker 1: my voice and putting it out through obs, which is
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Speaker 1: weird because normally the browser is an output, not an input.
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Speaker 1: But whatever, So all right. So Helen Andrews wrote an
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Speaker 1: essay called the Great Feminization published in Compact magazine on
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Speaker 1: October sixteenth, twenty twenty five, and it argues that wokeness
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Speaker 1: is not primarily ideological, but a byproduct of demographic shifts
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Speaker 1: towards female majority institutions across society. So this is something
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Speaker 1: that we have been saying. Like I said it, I
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Speaker 1: think it was like when the George Floyd died, and
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Speaker 1: it was even maybe even before that, but I want
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Speaker 1: for sure it was then. And I noticed that and
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Speaker 1: also the election, the twenty sixteen election, I noticed that,
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Speaker 1: like some people in Honey Battery are like Allison weren't
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Speaker 1: entirely comfortable with speaking on issues of race because it
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Speaker 1: was first of all, not the focus, but also because
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Speaker 1: she was a little bit uncomfortable with it. And I
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Speaker 1: don't have a problem talking about race at all. I
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Speaker 1: don't give shit you know, and I said, I don't
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Speaker 1: think this is about race. I think this is like
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Speaker 1: if I talk about identity politics for example of any kind.
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Speaker 1: I think it's all feminine like, and that that also
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Speaker 1: comes out of the political leaning. I said this years ago.
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Speaker 1: I said that the divide is not left and right.
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Speaker 1: It is male and female. It's just that they tend to,
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Speaker 1: you know, like they tend to collectivize in the left
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Speaker 1: or the right. Like the women tend to be more
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Speaker 1: left because leftism prioritizes security, and it prioritizes, you know,
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Speaker 1: like looking out for the people who are disenfranchised or
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Speaker 1: in need, and it so it has like this more
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Speaker 1: compassionate compassionate put in quotes, because I don't think that's
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Speaker 1: how it usually goes. But that's sort of like where
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Speaker 1: it comes from. And the right is more masculine, it's
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Speaker 1: more interested in liberty and freedom. And so that that's
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Speaker 1: why we have two wings, because we have two sexes
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Speaker 1: and not just not again, this isn't like an absolute
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Speaker 1: Obviously there are left wing men and there are right
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Speaker 1: wing women. But for the most part that's what the
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Speaker 1: underlying you know, the underlying values that are playing out
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Speaker 1: are playing out in that in that regard, and so like,
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Speaker 1: I was seeing this for a long time, and so
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Speaker 1: it's it's and I think that what happened, not just
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Speaker 1: with with George Floyd, riots and the Me Too movement
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Speaker 1: and everything, it was all basically an expression of a
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Speaker 1: feminine way of being, a feminine mode of act of
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Speaker 1: organization that was expressing itself. And so Helen Andrews wrote this,
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Speaker 1: and I thought it was really interesting because she's saying
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Speaker 1: what we've been saying, and this means and this is
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Speaker 1: actually making a lot of traction. Like I said before,
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Speaker 1: it's been going everywhere. It's being discussed. So eucophobic misanthrope says,
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Speaker 1: I agree, Brian, thank you. Robert Johnson says, if you
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Speaker 1: enjoy doing it, rock on. Gabriel says, Ai pumpkins, Well yeah,
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Speaker 1: sort of. I mean a pumpkin is a pumpkin, right,
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Speaker 1: So anyway, so she says she defines this feminization as
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Speaker 1: women increasingly dominating fields like education, which women have dominated
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Speaker 1: that for a long time, medicine, law, journalism, and management,
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Speaker 1: which import feminine social norms which emphasize empathy, emotional safety,
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Speaker 1: group cohesion, and consensus over rationality, risk taking, competition and
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Speaker 1: open conflict. This leads to pathologies like cancel culture, which
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Speaker 1: where disagreement is handled via ostracism rather than debate, and
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Speaker 1: institutions prioritize feelings over evidence or due process Title nine
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Speaker 1: Kangaroo courts or the Kavanaugh hearings, for example. Andrews draws
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Speaker 1: on research showing women value societal harmony more than free
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Speaker 1: speech and links it to broader trends like men exiting
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Speaker 1: feminized professions due to anti merit quotas and toxic masculinity crackdowns. Ultimately,
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Speaker 1: she warns this misalignment erodes truth seeking, innovation, and individualism
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Speaker 1: in key sectors, calling for reversals like scrapping gender mandates
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Speaker 1: to restore natural balances before full entrenchment. This could make
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Speaker 1: for So this is why I chose This is why
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Speaker 1: I chose this topic. Okay, and this is a bit
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Speaker 1: of a long essay, So I'm gonna show it to
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Speaker 1: you guys if you guys can look this up on
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Speaker 1: compactmag dot com. And it's called the Great Feminization. And
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Speaker 1: she's done some interviews and discussions about this, and I thought,
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Speaker 1: this is like an absolutely great topic because like we're
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Speaker 1: basically and Here's the thing that was really interesting about
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Speaker 1: this too, is that there she wasn't the first person
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Speaker 1: to write it. Another person wrote another essay that got
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Speaker 1: her interested in in the in this as a topic.
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Speaker 1: And she said in an interview that she was asked
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Speaker 1: like who wrote the original, Like was another person that
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Speaker 1: wrote this thing? And she said that we don't know.
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Speaker 1: They wrote it under a pseudonym, a pseudonym, but the
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Speaker 1: presumption is it was a man. And and that just
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Speaker 1: speaks again to the problem like men don't feel like
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Speaker 1: they can come comfortably criticized women. And in all the
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Speaker 1: interviews that she was doing, many of them, the women
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Speaker 1: or men who were interviewing them were essentially making caveats
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Speaker 1: or pushing back or you know, essentially challenging her, partly
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Speaker 1: because it makes for a more interesting and robust interview,
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Speaker 1: but also there was a lot of fear there. There
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Speaker 1: was a lot of fear that they were going to
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Speaker 1: upset people, and they were making a lot of like
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Speaker 1: I don't want to say excuses, but they were, you know,
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Speaker 1: there was a lot of like, you know, let's say,
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Speaker 1: preparing to make a criticism, like I'm about to criticize women,
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Speaker 1: hold on everybody, let me make all the caveats, let
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Speaker 1: me let everybody know I don't hate women, you know,
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Speaker 1: blah blah blah. And then they would make there and
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Speaker 1: and Helen was like, I'm you know, I'm just not
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Speaker 1: doing that anymore, Like I just it's so boring, right,
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Speaker 1: So let me see what you guys are saying here
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Speaker 1: before we continue. Is it feminization or feminism? Though, no, no,
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Speaker 1: it's the thing is. That's a good question, Peter Houston.
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Speaker 1: But I think ultimately it is feminization because she wasn't
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Speaker 1: saying it to avoid saying feminism. She was because the
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Speaker 1: thing is, feminization is just a like a female way
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Speaker 1: of like being right. And I think feminism works because
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Speaker 1: it actually like appeals to that feminine framing. So I
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Speaker 1: think it's it's feminization more than feminism, because feminism is
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Speaker 1: just like a I mean, it's a political movement ultimately,
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Speaker 1: but it's more than that too. It's a way of
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Speaker 1: framing the world. Okay, so I got tagged in Yeah,
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Speaker 1: here's a tag post from Vasu Ericsson. Do you want
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Speaker 1: to say something because I got your I got your
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Speaker 1: X tag? And he says, in twenty twenty three, I
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Speaker 1: made a similar observations how workplaces have been getting feminized
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Speaker 1: in the name of Dei Wokeness recorded the events and
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Speaker 1: wrote a blog in the beginning of twenty twenty four
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Speaker 1: the feminization is indeed directly responsible for the collapse we
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Speaker 1: see today, Yes, and thank you for that. And there's
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Speaker 1: Helen Andrews who wrote how I came to see the
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Speaker 1: Great Feminization as the most significant event of our century
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Speaker 1: and a potential threat to civilization? Yes, one hundred percent,
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Speaker 1: And like, yeah, this is like a thing. You know,
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of people talking about a lot of
14:15
Speaker 1: things going on in the world like these, you know,
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Speaker 1: immigration and the economy and Israel and Palestine and Ukraine
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Speaker 1: and Russia and whatever, you know, Trump is doing and
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Speaker 1: what Canada is doing. But if you guys don't look
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Speaker 1: at what's going on with men and women, none of
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Speaker 1: that other stuff matters. It's all it's all gone. Like,
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Speaker 1: I mean, this is really important. It's the most important thing.
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Speaker 1: Betty Adams over analyzes says TMDs. I don't know what
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Speaker 1: TMDs is, but the too many disclaimers syndrome. Yeah that's
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Speaker 1: a good that's a good one. Yeah, too many disclaimers, right, yeah, well,
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Speaker 1: because again, we're so concerned about like not being offensive
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Speaker 1: or upsetting women, which is itself a feminine framing. It's
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Speaker 1: like part of the framing, right, because when men like
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Speaker 1: talk to each other, they can be like rough around
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Speaker 1: the edges. They can be brash, they can even come
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Speaker 1: across as almost like hostile. But ultimately, and now I'm
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Speaker 1: talking about the average man, I'm not talking about you guys,
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Speaker 1: but I think that most men are like this. Ultimately,
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Speaker 1: when it's all out in the open, everybody like airs
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Speaker 1: their grievances, even if they use foul language, even if
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Speaker 1: they yell or they use strong you know, insults or whatever.
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Speaker 1: They once it's out there, I think that men generally
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Speaker 1: will like, Okay, let's have a drink and let's like
15:34
Speaker 1: bury the hatchet or whatever, work it out. But that's
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Speaker 1: but that's because men are not concerned with in general,
15:41
Speaker 1: men are not concerned with people's emotional safety. They're just like,
15:45
Speaker 1: we're just going to talk about this, right. So, and
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Speaker 1: Helen attributes feminizations as the source of woke, Yes, and
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Speaker 1: that's that's true. Like, I think that's true because it
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Speaker 1: it's like what is woke, it's essentially taking the people
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Speaker 1: who are seen to be it's it is like, it's
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Speaker 1: not I'm not saying that it's not. Wokeness isn't like
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Speaker 1: cultural Marxism, you know, like in at the end of
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Speaker 1: the day, But why does cultural marxism even if that's
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Speaker 1: what what what critical consciousness or wokeness is, why does
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Speaker 1: it gain footing if not for a feminine like way
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Speaker 1: of viewing the world, which which has its place right.
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Speaker 1: But but I think it's being completely mishandled so because
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Speaker 1: like obviously no one, like you know, most people don't
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Speaker 1: actually want to, I don't know, go after marginalized groups, right,
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Speaker 1: It's not like something they're interested in. But wokeness is
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Speaker 1: operating under the assumption that the marginalized groups need help
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Speaker 1: and it has to be from woke people. And that's
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Speaker 1: a feminine virtue, I guess, or like a feminine way
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Speaker 1: of seeing things that it must come from a collective view.
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Speaker 1: Oh let me thank you, vasu ericson if did you
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Speaker 1: want to say a thing? I could invite you guys
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Speaker 1: way for you guys to raise your hands or something.
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Speaker 1: I'm not really good at using spaces unfortunately, so I've
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Speaker 1: seen that's correct. Maybe I can maybe I don't know
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Speaker 1: if you guys like, oh no, no, no, I don't
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Speaker 1: want to end the call. Shit that was that was
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Speaker 1: almost a mistake. Where is the oh yeah, here we go.
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Speaker 1: Manage the speakers, right, so I can invite you guys
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Speaker 1: to speak, and you you'd let me know if you
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Speaker 1: want to. So there we go. All right, So let
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Speaker 1: me get back to someone gonna say something. No, okay,
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Speaker 1: let me get back to some of the highlights, because
17:42
Speaker 1: this is kind of a big essay. So let me
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Speaker 1: find see Helen Andrews. Here's some bullet points of some
17:52
Speaker 1: of the claims that she makes in her essay. One,
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Speaker 1: there is the cancelation of a man named Larry Summers
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Speaker 1: at Harvard. So do you guys know about Harry Summers?
18:03
Speaker 1: This is something I learned when I because I didn't
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Speaker 1: know about this. So Larry Summers was an American economist,
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Speaker 1: and let me see get like the full context. He
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Speaker 1: was a Harvard professor president actually the president of Harvard University,
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Speaker 1: and he got severe controversy in backlash following a speech
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Speaker 1: that he delivered on January four, two thousand and five
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Speaker 1: at a National Bureau of Economic Research conference on diversifying
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Speaker 1: the science and Engineering workforce. He was essentially the proto
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Speaker 1: James de Moore. So, you guys know, James de Moore
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Speaker 1: was the guy who worked at Google, and Google was
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Speaker 1: like trying to push more diversity in the workplace. They
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Speaker 1: wanted equal representation of women and men, and James the
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Speaker 1: Moore was trying to explain He wasn't pushing in any
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Speaker 1: particular direction, but he was trying to explain or make
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Speaker 1: the case for why pushing for this kind of forced
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Speaker 1: equality is going to like, you know, not, it's going
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Speaker 1: to be a struggle, it's going to be a challenge.
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Speaker 1: And he explained all of laid it all out like this,
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Speaker 1: Women tend to be interested in these things, men tend
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Speaker 1: to be in these things and all that. And he
19:17
Speaker 1: was very you know, let's say, diligent on putting his
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Speaker 1: data together. And he had his life. He got his
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Speaker 1: life ruined. Hold on a second, phone was listening to me.
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Speaker 1: That was weird. My phone was listening to me, and
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Speaker 1: it responded, I was not talking to Gemini or whatever,
19:37
Speaker 1: all right, But anyway, so yeah, so before there was
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Speaker 1: James the Moore there was Lawrence Summers, and in two
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Speaker 1: thousand and five he was at the U During an
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Speaker 1: off the record talk, he proposed several hypotheses to explain
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Speaker 1: the underrepresentation of women in tenure positions in science and engineering,
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Speaker 1: including the poss disability of intrinsic aptitude differences between men
20:02
Speaker 1: and women, particularly regarding variance in mathematical and scientific ability.
20:07
Speaker 1: He also discussed the impact of high powered career demands
20:10
Speaker 1: conflicting with family aspirations and societal pressures. So his remarks,
20:14
Speaker 1: particularly the suggestion of biological differences in aptitude, sparked immediate
20:19
Speaker 1: backlash from some attendees, including MIT biologist Nancy Hopkins, who
20:23
Speaker 1: reported feeling physically ill upon hearing his comments. Despite the
20:29
Speaker 1: off the record nature of the event, details were leaked
20:31
Speaker 1: to the press, igniting a national and eventually international controversy.
20:36
Speaker 1: The ensuing media storm led to a no confidence vote
20:40
Speaker 1: by the Harvard faculty and widespread criticism, with some accusing
20:43
Speaker 1: Summers of sexism and lacking tact. Summers issued a public
20:48
Speaker 1: apology to these people, stating he regretted the impact of
20:51
Speaker 1: his comments and apologized for not weighing them more carefully,
20:54
Speaker 1: emphasizing his commitment to advancing women in science. However, the
20:58
Speaker 1: controversy continued to erode his standing at the university. On
21:01
Speaker 1: February twenty one, two thousand and six, Summers announced he
21:04
Speaker 1: would step down as president at the end of the
21:06
Speaker 1: academic year, effective June thirtieth, two thousand and six. While
21:09
Speaker 1: he was not formally fired, his resignation is widely seen
21:13
Speaker 1: as a result of the fallout from the speech and
21:15
Speaker 1: the subsequent loss of faculties support. So he was basically
21:20
Speaker 1: canceled before cancel culture was a thing and two thousand
21:24
Speaker 1: and five, so like, this is how difficult it is
21:28
Speaker 1: to talk about this, and it has been for a
21:30
Speaker 1: long time. So anyway, he was canceled, and the evidence
21:34
Speaker 1: for this is Nancy Hopkins stated this. Nancy Hopkins as
21:37
Speaker 1: the professor that basically made the claims that his remarks
21:42
Speaker 1: made her physically ill, and repeated apologies fail to appease
21:45
Speaker 1: the mob of highlighting emotional over logical responses. Another claim
21:50
Speaker 1: that she makes in her essay is that cancel culture
21:55
Speaker 1: is inherently feminine, applying to institutions where women become Numerous
22:00
Speaker 1: supporting evidence for this detailed in j Stones's book The
22:03
Speaker 1: great feminization, where wokeness is an epiphenomenon of demographic feminization,
22:09
Speaker 1: shifting norms towards ostracism over debate. So normally you would
22:14
Speaker 1: be debating these issues, but if you get when you
22:17
Speaker 1: get like a plurality, like a significant number of women
22:20
Speaker 1: in a place, they don't engage in debate anymore because
22:23
Speaker 1: that is confrontational and it's logical. But instead they just
22:28
Speaker 1: engage in ostracization and cancelation because that's based in consensus.
22:32
Speaker 1: Like enough of them agree we're gonna get rid of
22:35
Speaker 1: this person, we're gonna silence this person, we're gonna get
22:37
Speaker 1: them fired, then they do that. This is inherently a
22:40
Speaker 1: feminine thing. Another claim that she makes is law schools
22:42
Speaker 1: become majority female in twenty sixteen, marking a tipping point
22:48
Speaker 1: after initial female pioneers supporting evidence law firm associates majority
22:53
Speaker 1: female in twenty twenty three. Historically, only five percent of
22:56
Speaker 1: judges were female in Sondra Dale O'Connor's eray, three percent
23:00
Speaker 1: overall and sixty three percent of under Biden, showing accelerating
23:05
Speaker 1: demographic shifts. Yes, a number of justices were appointed by
23:10
Speaker 1: Biden that were female, over half and that is going
23:14
Speaker 1: to affect the way that they judge, because are they
23:19
Speaker 1: being selected for their ability to be judges or is
23:24
Speaker 1: this just to fill a quota? And if you do that,
23:26
Speaker 1: what like, are are we going to get justice? That's
23:29
Speaker 1: a very difficult thing to do. Another claim that's made
23:33
Speaker 1: here is major institutions like The New York Times, medical schools,
23:37
Speaker 1: and higher education have tipped to female majorities, supporting evidence
23:41
Speaker 1: for this. New York Times staff majority female since twenty eighteen.
23:45
Speaker 1: In nineteen seventy four, the New York Times was ten
23:48
Speaker 1: percent female, now it's fifty five percent female. Medical schools
23:55
Speaker 1: have also changed a lot since twenty nineteen. Women majority
23:59
Speaker 1: of college education, workforce and the instructors, reflecting broad feminization
24:04
Speaker 1: across professions. Another claim she makes is wokeness prioritizes feminine
24:09
Speaker 1: traits like empathy over rationality and safety over risk. Also,
24:14
Speaker 1: context is a big thing, and when i'm what context
24:17
Speaker 1: really just means is it's kind of like a subjective
24:20
Speaker 1: way of viewing the world, like like lived experience, you know.
24:24
Speaker 1: And this is another feminine value, right, And again it's
24:28
Speaker 1: not to say that it has no value, but it
24:31
Speaker 1: only works in the correct like situation, and what is
24:36
Speaker 1: happening is that we're applying the female way of being
24:41
Speaker 1: everywhere and there and we're not listening to the male
24:44
Speaker 1: perspective on it. So let me see what you guys
24:48
Speaker 1: are saying before I continue here. Yeah, so Chud King says,
24:54
Speaker 1: the Anglo sphere has been cuked. It is a victim
24:56
Speaker 1: of its own success, wanting to leave nobody. But when
25:00
Speaker 1: people falling behind is inevitable except for who, Well, again,
25:04
Speaker 1: that's the women. And I mean, like, I can come
25:07
Speaker 1: back to this a little bit later, because it was
25:09
Speaker 1: another thing that I almost thought about talking about as well,
25:12
Speaker 1: which was this big talk between Tucker Carlson and Nick
25:15
Speaker 1: Fuentes that everyone's talking about on X right now. And
25:19
Speaker 1: the reason why I thought it would be good to
25:21
Speaker 1: bring up is because the topic of women comes up.
25:24
Speaker 1: And that's the thing that's really interesting is that it's
25:26
Speaker 1: kind of like it's a very core issue that too
25:31
Speaker 1: many people are ignoring or at least not giving the
25:35
Speaker 1: proper It's like they see it's like people on the
25:38
Speaker 1: right see feminism as just like one wedge in like
25:42
Speaker 1: a larger pie of wedges where you have, like you know,
25:44
Speaker 1: you have the socialists, and you have the BLM activists,
25:48
Speaker 1: and you have the you know whatever right you have,
25:51
Speaker 1: like the the Islamists, et cetera. But like, it's it's
25:55
Speaker 1: way bigger than that, and it's not just feminism, right, So,
26:00
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's hard for people to like
26:02
Speaker 1: tackle that because it is a very difficult subject anyway.
26:05
Speaker 1: Moonburn says, because the female principle criticizes and tears down
26:10
Speaker 1: let me see. Norwegian Black Templar says, you mean the
26:12
Speaker 1: FEDS were listening to you? Well, is an AI, but yeah, probably.
26:15
Speaker 1: Peter Houston says, I think woke seems to be more
26:17
Speaker 1: like republic idea, where smaller locations have disproportionate population representation
26:24
Speaker 1: based on other identities than geographic just reinterpreted oikophobic. Missing
26:30
Speaker 1: Thrope says, I'm going back to sleep. I enjoy these
26:32
Speaker 1: shows and this is great. Thanks for sticking to it, Brian, Well,
26:35
Speaker 1: thanks for coming on. However brief it was, I'm sorry,
26:38
Speaker 1: I'm not. Alison Gredendor says wokeness is just this cultural
26:42
Speaker 1: Marxism that uses weaponized feminine virtue signaling to push through institutions. Yes,
26:47
Speaker 1: and it mostly like operates through the women I mean
26:50
Speaker 1: that George Orwell wrote famously the quote about that you know,
26:55
Speaker 1: and ultimately through the women, it gets to the children,
26:58
Speaker 1: and so then you raised the whole generation of these people.
27:02
Speaker 1: Robert Johnson says, well, kicking Summers of the curve has
27:05
Speaker 1: been nothing but a benefit to Harvard. How else would
27:08
Speaker 1: they have promoted a female POC who dislikes red Sea
27:11
Speaker 1: pedestrians and takes credit for other people's works. Yeah, that's
27:14
Speaker 1: interesting too. I wonder how long she was president, Like,
27:18
Speaker 1: did she get the job right after this guy got
27:20
Speaker 1: stepped down? Digital big sister is always listening. Yeah, men
27:24
Speaker 1: run society like a team project. Women run society like
27:26
Speaker 1: a kindergarten. A misanthrope says absolutely no need for apologies. Okay, well,
27:31
Speaker 1: I appreciate that you're here, and I hope that you
27:34
Speaker 1: have a good Halloween, because I probably won't see you
27:36
Speaker 1: guys after this show is over. I probably won't see
27:38
Speaker 1: you guys until Halloween. So we got another half an hour.
27:41
Speaker 1: So let me go through the rest of her claims,
27:43
Speaker 1: at least some of the bullet points that I picked,
27:45
Speaker 1: because the essay is long. I'm not going to read
27:47
Speaker 1: the whole thing, but I'll tell you what it. I'm
27:49
Speaker 1: basically giving a sum up of what she said. And
27:52
Speaker 1: again this is resulting in her doing the rounds on
27:56
Speaker 1: many different let's say, you know, right wing and libertarian
28:00
Speaker 1: and podcasts to discuss these issues. And yet people are
28:02
Speaker 1: struggling with this, but at least they're talking to her,
28:05
Speaker 1: and I think that that is absolutely crucial. So all right,
28:10
Speaker 1: claim feminized institutions fail at compartmentalization, blending personal politics with
28:18
Speaker 1: professional duties. Yes, the evidence for this. Doctors now wear
28:22
Speaker 1: political pins or lanyards and justified BLM protests during COVID
28:27
Speaker 1: as public health needs, unlike traditional male doctors who kept
28:31
Speaker 1: opinions separate from their patient care. I've seen this myself.
28:36
Speaker 1: You guys remember the dancing nurses so like during COVID,
28:39
Speaker 1: dancing with masks and stuff, and there was a COVID
28:43
Speaker 1: itself became political when it should have just been a
28:46
Speaker 1: health issue. And doctors like Robert Malone who had criticisms right,
28:51
Speaker 1: he was essentially pushing back against the status quo, the consensus,
28:55
Speaker 1: and what did he get for it. I actually think
28:58
Speaker 1: the entire COVID fiasco was feminine in the way that
29:02
Speaker 1: it played out. Maybe that's a little bit too edgy
29:05
Speaker 1: to say, but I don't know if you guys agree
29:07
Speaker 1: or disagree, because I think that because think about it,
29:10
Speaker 1: it was like prioritize safety, a safety over freedom, which
29:16
Speaker 1: was basically like you couldn't leave the house, or you
29:19
Speaker 1: had depending on where you were, you know, the restrictions
29:21
Speaker 1: were different. It basically just like demanded everyone take their medicine,
29:27
Speaker 1: like like some kind of doting mother would, right it.
29:31
Speaker 1: I mean, like think about it, right, people are getting
29:34
Speaker 1: canceled left and right, and there was a lot of
29:36
Speaker 1: virtue signaling from people who got vaccinated, from people who
29:40
Speaker 1: were pushing the vaccine, and from people who were delivering
29:43
Speaker 1: the vaccine, like they were all virtue signaling all over
29:47
Speaker 1: social media all the time, I think. And that doesn't
29:49
Speaker 1: mean there weren't men involved. I'm saying it's a feminine
29:52
Speaker 1: way of being again, it's a feminine expression, and I
29:56
Speaker 1: think that guys like doctor Fauci are lo ti so
29:58
Speaker 1: he's probably like a woman too basically, you know. So
30:02
Speaker 1: I think that that is again that's a good way
30:05
Speaker 1: to look at it, that she's just putting out there
30:07
Speaker 1: and that not being able to compartmentalize your personal beliefs
30:12
Speaker 1: with your profession, like to where you keep those things separate.
30:16
Speaker 1: Apparently that's a feminine thing too. Next claim the legal
30:19
Speaker 1: professions feminization threatens the rule of law by favoring emotional
30:22
Speaker 1: sympathy over procedural safeguards. Evidence for this title nine processes
30:29
Speaker 1: lack confronting accusers driven by bias towards female complainants. Brett
30:34
Speaker 1: Kavanaugh hearings prioritize feminine emotional credibility over demands for evidence. Now,
30:39
Speaker 1: Kavanaugh ultimately won, but the fact that it got as
30:42
Speaker 1: far as it did and people weren't laughed out of
30:44
Speaker 1: the room. And also look at Egene Carroll. Look at
30:47
Speaker 1: all of the activist judges that had been I mean
30:50
Speaker 1: there's a lot of them are women, but not all
30:52
Speaker 1: of them. Look at the female justice. Can't remember her name.
30:55
Speaker 1: She wouldn't define what a woman was, right, she said,
31:00
Speaker 1: I'm not a biologist, right. So yeah, that's a problem.
31:04
Speaker 1: If you look at like old videos of like debates
31:07
Speaker 1: and discussions, like political discussions or Congress hearings from like
31:12
Speaker 1: the sixties and fifties and seventies, even it was so professional.
31:18
Speaker 1: Now you got like women throwing their weaves around. Well
31:20
Speaker 1: I'm exaggerating, but like you got like you know, Jasmine
31:23
Speaker 1: Crockett and Marjorie Taylor Green like just like cat fighting
31:27
Speaker 1: on the Senate floor. Like it's just like what this is?
31:32
Speaker 1: This is these are all like you know, clear symptoms,
31:36
Speaker 1: right Vasu Eeryton wants to talk. Okay, man, go ahead.
31:38
Speaker 1: Can you unmute or do I have to unmute you?
31:41
Speaker 2: Yeah? I hope you can hear me now, Yeah, I
31:43
Speaker 2: can hear you. So, Hi, raing Hi.
31:46
Speaker 3: I think we've briefly communicated over May earlier. I go
31:50
Speaker 3: by the name what'sn't I've in w Paul lamb Ghannis
31:56
Speaker 3: and Alison as well. So I just wanted to say.
31:59
Speaker 1: Hi, we know, yeah, Hi, how you doing good?
32:02
Speaker 2: I'm good.
32:03
Speaker 3: I'm so glad to have finally gotten a chance to
32:07
Speaker 3: interact with you, and I think this is a great topic.
32:12
Speaker 3: Going with the flow about the topic, I thought I
32:15
Speaker 3: could add a couple of points which Helen Andrews mentioned
32:19
Speaker 3: in her blog, which I thought, you know, might help
32:23
Speaker 3: the public to understand what the topics.
32:27
Speaker 2: Have been so far. Is that okay, if I just
32:29
Speaker 2: bringed it out.
32:30
Speaker 3: From her luga ahead, So one of the points that
32:34
Speaker 3: struck me was the place where she mentioned the Warriors
32:38
Speaker 3: and Warriors the Survival of the Success by psychology.
32:42
Speaker 2: Professor Joyce Berenson.
32:44
Speaker 3: That theorizes that men developed group dynamics optimized for war,
32:49
Speaker 3: while women develop group dynamics optimized for protecting their offspring
32:53
Speaker 3: because the point of war is to settle disputes between
32:57
Speaker 3: two tribes, but it works only if peace is restored
33:00
Speaker 3: after the dispute is settled. Men therefore developed methods for
33:05
Speaker 3: reconciling with opponents and learning to live in peace with people.
33:09
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that and that's that might be why when
33:14
Speaker 1: women engaging in this stuff, it doesn't seem to end,
33:16
Speaker 1: because it's like a con like you know, correcting your children.
33:20
Speaker 1: It's like a constant thing. Right, there's no peace afterwards.
33:23
Speaker 3: That was the point I wanted the people to discuss
33:25
Speaker 3: over because we know that things have had the laws
33:29
Speaker 3: have been diluted, Yeah, hiring has been diluted. But most
33:35
Speaker 3: people don't understand where these behaviors have originated, which I
33:40
Speaker 3: would love to see people discuss.
33:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting. No, that's a good point. You sent.
33:46
Speaker 1: You tagged me in a couple of posts. Is this
33:49
Speaker 1: one of them. Is it in here somewhere? I see
33:52
Speaker 1: that you also talked to Janis a Mango about this. Yeah, yeah,
33:57
Speaker 1: I love Janis. She's great. Okay, we mean to get
34:00
Speaker 1: her back on, but we just need to find something
34:02
Speaker 1: to talk about. But let's see. Yeah, So I think
34:08
Speaker 1: that's true. I think that again, it's like it's like
34:12
Speaker 1: it's based on basically the false premise that men and
34:16
Speaker 1: women will you know where have evolved to treat these
34:20
Speaker 1: kinds of conflicts the same, and we're just not going
34:24
Speaker 1: to write. I think there's a proper, you know, a
34:26
Speaker 1: proper way for different kinds of you know, a proper
34:31
Speaker 1: response for different like what we need. Right, Sometimes there's
34:33
Speaker 1: war and then sometimes there is like the raising of children,
34:37
Speaker 1: and so it's about like what what is the good
34:38
Speaker 1: fit for that?
34:40
Speaker 2: So that's yeah, that's true.
34:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, and and and what so, like going back to
34:46
Speaker 1: COVID as an example, what do you think like, like,
34:49
Speaker 1: how do you think that that applies to? Like how
34:52
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, like you're are you where
34:54
Speaker 1: are you at?
34:54
Speaker 2: Are you in America?
34:56
Speaker 1: Are you in India?
34:57
Speaker 2: Yeah? I'm in India's late.
35:00
Speaker 1: It's it's really late there. It's like twelve or something.
35:04
Speaker 2: It's two o'clock in the night. Actually, oh wow.
35:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, So when COVID was going on, what was it
35:10
Speaker 1: like for you guys, Like, was it the same thing
35:13
Speaker 1: as we had it with the that I described.
35:15
Speaker 3: So what I have personally observed is that there's a
35:19
Speaker 3: huge difference in the hiring practices of the company. I
35:22
Speaker 3: used to be an it professional earlier, but I've seen
35:26
Speaker 3: I've noticed a lot of changes in the way that
35:28
Speaker 3: the people interact within the environments of the offices and
35:31
Speaker 3: all that. And I got religious to be really honest,
35:34
Speaker 3: and it took a while for me to quit the
35:37
Speaker 3: company and then start my as a filmmaker later, which.
35:42
Speaker 2: I'm persualing currently.
35:44
Speaker 3: It was one of the hardest things that I had
35:46
Speaker 3: to let go because I spent a lot of time,
35:49
Speaker 3: giving me how many years, trying to make some.
35:55
Speaker 2: When I realized these.
35:58
Speaker 3: Platforms have been completely divert to an extent that any
36:02
Speaker 3: opinion that doesn't sit with the feminist gang can get
36:07
Speaker 3: you fired. So that was my realization point that I
36:12
Speaker 3: had to quickly I as soon as possible.
36:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so like it. It is in line with
36:19
Speaker 1: what we were talking about. So let me move on
36:22
Speaker 1: to the next claim that she made. But thank you
36:25
Speaker 1: ve asked for the for the topic. I think it's
36:28
Speaker 1: a really interesting thing to add so's She also claimed
36:34
Speaker 1: the uh, let's see feminized law. Yes, feminized law leads
36:39
Speaker 1: to irreverence for formalities and instrumental treatment of the system.
36:45
Speaker 1: So Dahlia Lithwick described female justices ignoring time limits in
36:49
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen arguments, viewing the system as outdated for propertied
36:55
Speaker 1: white men and adapting it flexibly rather than adhering strictly.
37:01
Speaker 1: So there were time limits on arguments like closing arguments,
37:04
Speaker 1: opening arguments, and there were there was a justice in
37:07
Speaker 1: at least one that ignored that because it's a man thing, right.
37:11
Speaker 1: And that's another thing too, is that there are these
37:13
Speaker 1: there are these female warriors that enter a space that
37:16
Speaker 1: is male dominated, and they are upright out of college
37:19
Speaker 1: and their their goal is to like fight the man
37:22
Speaker 1: while they're there. They have something to prove, they have
37:24
Speaker 1: a chip on their shoulder or something like that, and
37:27
Speaker 1: so they they end up creating a much more hostile
37:30
Speaker 1: workplace because the men are trying to like play nice.
37:34
Speaker 1: So this is this is another layer on top of
37:37
Speaker 1: that and it's like the it's the worst kind of
37:39
Speaker 1: coworker is someone who has a chip on their shoulder
37:43
Speaker 1: and isn't there to work together because you aren't gonna
37:47
Speaker 1: get a lot done with someone that's like that. And
37:50
Speaker 1: it happens a lot, all right, So feminization another claim.
37:55
Speaker 1: Feminization is, according to her, artificial, driven by discrimination laws
38:01
Speaker 1: rather than organic merit. So essentially she's saying that the
38:05
Speaker 1: feminization of these spaces, whether they're in a certain fields
38:10
Speaker 1: or in our legal system or in our politics or
38:13
Speaker 1: whatever space it is, is artificial because there are a
38:17
Speaker 1: lot of like artificial you know, let's say tools in place,
38:21
Speaker 1: systems in place that essentially give women positions or they're
38:25
Speaker 1: more likely to get them that are kind of undeserved.
38:28
Speaker 1: And so they they're in these spaces, but they're not
38:30
Speaker 1: really normally going to be here because they would normally
38:33
Speaker 1: not qualify, and the ones that would qualify probably wouldn't
38:37
Speaker 1: create waves, you know, or at least they're less likely to.
38:40
Speaker 1: So evidence for this is workplaces feminized to avoid lawsuits
38:45
Speaker 1: with settlements like Texico and Goldman Sachs in nine figures.
38:49
Speaker 1: So this is another thing too, is that people think
38:52
Speaker 1: that and I think this is an interesting thing to
38:54
Speaker 1: think about, and you guys, let me know what you think.
38:57
Speaker 1: A lot of times there's an argument made that corporations
39:01
Speaker 1: hired women or brought them into the workforce because they
39:04
Speaker 1: were able to lower their payroll so they could pay
39:08
Speaker 1: them less and it would like save them money, Okay,
39:12
Speaker 1: and I don't I wasn't sure about that because obviously
39:15
Speaker 1: the pay gap isn't even real. Although you know, women
39:17
Speaker 1: are less likely to fight for the wage that they
39:21
Speaker 1: really want, so they're more likely to take whatever the
39:24
Speaker 1: company gives them. But I never really bought into that wholesale.
39:28
Speaker 1: I always thought that the reason why the people who
39:31
Speaker 1: really benefit from women in a workforce is the government,
39:33
Speaker 1: because the government gets to tax twice as many people.
39:36
Speaker 1: And the reason why companies will take them on, like
39:40
Speaker 1: the corporations in this example Goldman Sacks and Texico, is
39:44
Speaker 1: not because they're like, you know, it's well, Number one,
39:48
Speaker 1: it's not because they're trying to give women a shot.
39:50
Speaker 1: Number two, it's not because they're looking to pay them less.
39:53
Speaker 1: The number the reason is number three, they're trying to
39:55
Speaker 1: avoid lawsuits, so they are they they're if they don't
39:59
Speaker 1: have enough win on the staff then they may face
40:02
Speaker 1: civil suits and so they just like you know, take it.
40:06
Speaker 1: They bend the knee and hire them. And I think,
40:08
Speaker 1: and this is another thing I want you guys to
40:10
Speaker 1: think about. I think this is the reason why you
40:13
Speaker 1: have so many corporations that have these like daycare jobs
40:16
Speaker 1: for women, because they're they're able to like give them
40:19
Speaker 1: odd jobs so they can say, look, we have women
40:21
Speaker 1: on the payroll and you know, maybe they're not doing anything.
40:24
Speaker 1: They're going to meetings and they're you know, fiddling around
40:27
Speaker 1: their computer, but they're not like like the big movers
40:30
Speaker 1: in the company. But it keeps the company safe from lawsuits. Okay,
40:34
Speaker 1: so I think that's something else too. Let me see
40:36
Speaker 1: what you guys are saying really quick about that. Maybe
40:38
Speaker 1: you disagree with me. I don't know. Laura, Lauren or
40:42
Speaker 1: I four V says we probably won't get another president
40:45
Speaker 1: who was found guilty of felonies and was found libel
40:47
Speaker 1: for sexual abuse. Please make sure you cherish it. This
40:50
Speaker 1: is very rare and very special. Yeah, now you do
40:53
Speaker 1: you don't. You have to watch the Tempool video where
40:56
Speaker 1: he talks to the guy about the felonies. What's the
40:58
Speaker 1: underlying crime that's all I'll say. You don't there is
41:01
Speaker 1: no there are no felonies. There are claims. Neogamist one
41:05
Speaker 1: two three. Logic two says quite, there are weak men effeminate. Yeah,
41:09
Speaker 1: people don't like the weak men create hard times thing,
41:12
Speaker 1: but I think it's true. It's just that, you know, again,
41:15
Speaker 1: there are men who are weak, and like doctor Fauci
41:19
Speaker 1: is one of them. Ave heine Behind says that was
41:24
Speaker 1: the thing from the famous Sean Connery interview, right, sometimes
41:27
Speaker 1: she just won't let it go and you have to
41:29
Speaker 1: slap her more or less. Well, he said something like
41:31
Speaker 1: an open hand is better than a clenched fist. I think.
41:35
Speaker 1: Kind of messed up, but funny and that's the point, right.
41:37
Speaker 1: A Norwegian black templar says, salute to the Indian guy
41:40
Speaker 1: listening at two o'clock in the morning. Yeah, right, two
41:43
Speaker 1: o'clock at night. Crazy, Thanks, I appreciate it. Graydendor says
41:48
Speaker 1: the effeminate men are the direct result of the feminist
41:50
Speaker 1: agenda in particular and what women said they wanted from
41:53
Speaker 1: men generally. I agree. I agree, but again it goes
41:56
Speaker 1: back to what I've been saying for years. The most
41:58
Speaker 1: masculine thing you can do is say no to women.
42:01
Speaker 1: You just have to be able to say no. But
42:02
Speaker 1: a lot of guys won't they want because they're simps.
42:05
Speaker 1: Simps are the are the are the real enemy? Well
42:08
Speaker 1: they're one of them. Let's see. Val Vlamb Junior says,
42:12
Speaker 1: high five, Hello blam Junior, here we go, high five boom.
42:15
Speaker 1: Green Indor says women saying they want men who are
42:18
Speaker 1: more in touch with their feminine side was apparently just
42:21
Speaker 1: a twenty year long shit test that these men simply
42:23
Speaker 1: should have resisted. Give me a break. Yeah, uh, it's
42:27
Speaker 1: a it's a big shit test.
42:28
Speaker 3: Yes.
42:29
Speaker 1: Peter Houston says, Black Rock and affiliates say they would
42:32
Speaker 1: only loan to DEI companies, So loaning to companies like loans. True,
42:36
Speaker 1: but I mean again, they're they're those guys could be
42:39
Speaker 1: like working behind the scenes for sure. So all right, anyway,
42:43
Speaker 1: I feel a sneeze coming. Hold on, Sorry about that, okay.
42:47
Speaker 1: Neo gamists one two three Logic two says men who
42:50
Speaker 1: loudly push more women in power aren't challenging the system,
42:54
Speaker 1: they're reinforcing it for approval. Yes, uh yeah, I mean again,
42:59
Speaker 1: they're well, they're doing it because not because they really
43:01
Speaker 1: believe it, but because they want other people to see
43:04
Speaker 1: them saying it. So you know, it is a It
43:07
Speaker 1: is a virtue signal at the end of the day,
43:09
Speaker 1: and it doesn't really help anybody. So okay, so what
43:12
Speaker 1: are what is her conclusion, her ultimate thesis so and
43:16
Speaker 1: also what her solution is. And this is the challenging part.
43:20
Speaker 1: And I got about ten minutes, a little bit less
43:22
Speaker 1: than ten. So again I want to thank you guys
43:24
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Speaker 1: on right now, as well as X I think anyway.
44:22
Speaker 1: So hell and Andrews ultimate thesis is that wokeness and
44:24
Speaker 1: cancel culture are not primarily driven by ideology, but not
44:29
Speaker 1: that ideology is not involved at all, but she doesn't
44:31
Speaker 1: think it's primary, but are the epi phenomena of demographic feminization,
44:38
Speaker 1: the tipping of key institutions to female majorities, which naturally
44:41
Speaker 1: imports feminine social norms, prioritizing empathy, emotional safety, group harmony,
44:47
Speaker 1: and ostracism over rationality, risk, debate, and individualism. She posits
44:53
Speaker 1: everything you think of as wokeness is simply an epiphenomenon
44:57
Speaker 1: of demographic feminization, and all cancelations are feminine. Cancel culture
45:03
Speaker 1: is simply what women do whenever there are enough of
45:05
Speaker 1: them in a given organization or field. Wow, that's a
45:09
Speaker 1: hot take, but based and I agree. I don't know
45:11
Speaker 1: what you guys think about that, but I think this
45:14
Speaker 1: makes sense, you know, when you think about it in
45:17
Speaker 1: a evolutionary standpoint. If there is a woman that is
45:20
Speaker 1: not going along with the herd as it were, the
45:23
Speaker 1: other women's response is to ostracize them, because the worst
45:26
Speaker 1: thing you can do to someone like a woman who
45:28
Speaker 1: isn't you know, in these situations is essentially take away
45:32
Speaker 1: their social circle, their social connections to other people. So
45:36
Speaker 1: it does seem to make up. So what do we
45:39
Speaker 1: do about this? What is her suggestion? And this is
45:41
Speaker 1: where I really want you guys to think about this.
45:44
Speaker 1: Her recommended course of action is to reverse the artificial
45:47
Speaker 1: forces accelerating the shift, particularly antidiscrimination laws and HR bureaucracy.
45:54
Speaker 1: So human resources has to go that reinforce feminization to
45:58
Speaker 1: avoid lawsuits by restoring true meritocracy and allowing natural gender
46:03
Speaker 1: balances to emerge without mad mandates. Specifically, quote, she says,
46:08
Speaker 1: restore fair rules. Right now, we have a nominally meritocratic
46:13
Speaker 1: system in which it is illegal for women to lose.
46:16
Speaker 1: Let's make hiring meritocratic in substance and not just name,
46:20
Speaker 1: and we will see how it shakes out. Make it
46:23
Speaker 1: legal to have a masculine office culture. Again remove the
46:27
Speaker 1: HR lady's veto power. This would permit masculine norms in
46:30
Speaker 1: workplaces without legal penalties, potentially slowing or halting the exodus
46:35
Speaker 1: of men from feminized fields, which is happening right Another thing, too,
46:41
Speaker 1: is like so like this isn't something we can fix
46:43
Speaker 1: right away. So what I would what I've been talking about.
46:46
Speaker 1: I was talking to Lindsay about this today, and I
46:49
Speaker 1: was saying that if you're a guy, and you are
46:52
Speaker 1: you want to work, which I think we all should work,
46:57
Speaker 1: and you're but you're worried about like getting into a
46:59
Speaker 1: company that has an HR apartment, which is like most
47:02
Speaker 1: of them, and that you're gonna have obstacles presented to you.
47:05
Speaker 1: So what I think that would be helpful is I
47:09
Speaker 1: think men need to, like they need to cooperate with
47:14
Speaker 1: other men. So find other men that you think you
47:18
Speaker 1: can trust or try to build trust with, and start
47:21
Speaker 1: your own business and don't have an HR department. Like
47:25
Speaker 1: I think that men need to come together and start
47:27
Speaker 1: their own businesses, start their own thing, build it, and
47:30
Speaker 1: it's hard, it's scary, but I think that it's necessary,
47:33
Speaker 1: and then you can avoid all of this. And I
47:36
Speaker 1: think that you would be surprised at what you can do.
47:38
Speaker 1: I know a guy who lives here in Roanoke. He
47:42
Speaker 1: started his own basically, just like a junk collection business.
47:48
Speaker 1: He just had a pickup truck and a dream and
47:51
Speaker 1: he's doing it. And you know, he's got like a
47:53
Speaker 1: few employees. And I think that you know it's it's
47:56
Speaker 1: it's let's say, humble, but not without dignity. And this
48:01
Speaker 1: is work women won't do. Oh, he doesn't have to
48:03
Speaker 1: worry about women muscling in on his junk collection business.
48:07
Speaker 1: So just something to think about. Anybody else here, have
48:10
Speaker 1: any final thoughts. Look at what you guys are saying
48:13
Speaker 1: really quick, and then we'll go from there. So the
48:16
Speaker 1: weak man strong man meme neglects entirely the contributions of
48:20
Speaker 1: women to making everything shit and places all the responsibility
48:23
Speaker 1: for society of men. I get that too. Yes, I
48:25
Speaker 1: do think that men are part of that problem. Though
48:28
Speaker 1: Gradendor says, have you tested for COVID? Nope? Never did,
48:32
Speaker 1: because I sneezed. I don't think that's going to be enough.
48:34
Speaker 1: Albatross says, sounds pretty accurate. I've told my sister that
48:37
Speaker 1: wokeness intersectionality is a language from women by women. Yes
48:41
Speaker 1: it is. Linda Halfpenny thirty two fifty eight says, insecure
48:46
Speaker 1: men blaming women for their inadequacies as per usual. Look
48:49
Speaker 1: reading a report from a Pigmy Wow, that is a
48:53
Speaker 1: very strong and powerful argument from a powerful woman. Okay,
48:58
Speaker 1: Linda half Penny, thank you for that. I've never heard
49:00
Speaker 1: those things before ever. Norwegian says it's a good start,
49:03
Speaker 1: but we also need to enforce equality under the law. Yeah,
49:06
Speaker 1: for sure. But like you see, that's the thing though,
49:08
Speaker 1: if we change the legal system to fit that, you know,
49:11
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think that it's it's it's a start,
49:14
Speaker 1: for sure. Nothing matters if laws are upheld based on
49:17
Speaker 1: who or what you are. For sure, everybody who isn't
49:21
Speaker 1: paying more in tax than what they're getting in subsidies
49:24
Speaker 1: shouldn't be eligible to vote. I don't know how you
49:26
Speaker 1: would accurately police that rule, but I think it is
49:29
Speaker 1: a sound rule. Everyone who isn't paying more in tax, well,
49:33
Speaker 1: I think only people who pay taxes should vote. So
49:37
Speaker 1: if you're collecting more than you're paying, yeah, I think
49:40
Speaker 1: it depends. Like like owning property is a good start,
49:44
Speaker 1: Like if you own a house you know, or or
49:47
Speaker 1: a business. I think that's those are some good examples,
49:49
Speaker 1: not like oh I own a car, but like you know,
49:52
Speaker 1: like a house so or land of some kind. Avaheen says,
49:56
Speaker 1: great show today, Thank you, no, thank you, thank you
49:59
Speaker 1: for joining me on the show. Appreciate it. Robert Johnson Zeppo,
50:03
Speaker 1: as long as you have fewer than fifteen employees, you
50:05
Speaker 1: can avoid most of the complications that make HR a necessity. Yeah,
50:09
Speaker 1: here's hoping right, let's see. So I think now is
50:15
Speaker 1: a time for me to go into the patron show.
50:18
Speaker 1: You guys have a last chance to say something before
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Speaker 1: I leave, So raise your hand if you want to
50:22
Speaker 1: say something, go.
50:23
Speaker 2: Ahead, Brian, I have one last thing to say before
50:26
Speaker 2: you leave. Is that okay?
50:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead.
50:28
Speaker 2: I think we should.
50:29
Speaker 3: Talk about the great feminization of cinema all over and
50:34
Speaker 3: I think I know that you are well worsed with
50:37
Speaker 3: world cinema, and I think I can offer some insights from.
50:41
Speaker 2: Indian side as well, like Bollywood, just Bollywood.
50:44
Speaker 3: Bollywood is just one one tenth of Indian cinema. There's
50:48
Speaker 3: much more.
50:49
Speaker 1: That's okay, Yeah, we can talk about that. That could
50:53
Speaker 1: be interesting.
50:55
Speaker 2: Send me I got you a mail.
50:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've already done made you just check it out
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Speaker 3: and let me know. Second date for the conversation with
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Speaker 1: Absolutely we'll do Yeah, thank you, shout out call and
51:15
Speaker 1: you say something or you just like want to listen.
51:19
Speaker 1: All right, Well I'm gonna wrap it up there. Thanks
51:22
Speaker 1: guys for coming on the show. I want to get
51:24
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51:29
Speaker 1: Like I said, it's been doing the rounds. She's probably
51:32
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51:39
Speaker 1: think that she's pretty awesome. I bet you that Karen
51:42
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51:45
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Speaker 4: Men's Ride. Activists are machines. Dude, Okay, they are literal machines.
52:43
Speaker 4: They are talking point machines. They are impossible to fucking
52:47
Speaker 4: deal with, especially if you have, like especially if you
52:49
Speaker 4: have like a couple dudes who have good memory. On
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Speaker 4: top of that too, Holy shit, you're fucked