Latest / Aired Out / Peru (NY) High School Principal Matt Berry delivers powerful testimony about the impacts Sweethearts and Heroes has had on his school
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- 0:36Speaker 1: Basta.
- 1:35Speaker 2: All right, here we go head first into a Wednesday
- 1:40Speaker 2: morning Sweethearts and Heroesday the middle of the week. Happy
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- 2:00Speaker 2: on the birthday list today, Denise Garcia, Shannon Gets, Bethany Kim,
- 2:05Speaker 2: and Amber Hayley all celebrating birthdays. Good morning, everybody, and
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- 3:31Speaker 2: be a great Thursday. Depp Phillips with us from the
- 3:36Speaker 2: World this morning. Good morning, Depth, Good morning, and how
- 3:40Speaker 2: are you today? Yeah, well, listen, we're gonna get some
- 3:46Speaker 2: relief seventy five right now in the Granite City, but
- 3:50Speaker 2: sun clouds later eighty five. Maybe not a whole heck
- 3:54Speaker 2: of a lot of relief. But anyway, love the World
- 3:58Speaker 2: paper and it's coming out out today.
- 4:00Speaker 3: What can we expect in their depth, Well, we have all.
- 4:05Speaker 4: The schedules for the fourth of July events. We have
- 4:10Speaker 4: the Waterberry not quite Independent today, that's coming up this Saturday.
- 4:16Speaker 4: We have mont Pilier Third of July. Uh that is
- 4:21Speaker 4: on the third of July. We also have Cabage and Randolph.
- 4:31Speaker 2: Here you got the train going by in the back
- 4:33Speaker 2: you guys, and you guys are like right on the
- 4:36Speaker 2: track step, yes, yes we are.
- 4:40Speaker 4: And then coming up the following week we will have
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- 4:48Speaker 2: Wooster is always I mean, that's one of the go
- 4:51Speaker 2: to places for Fourth of July celebrations most definitely.
- 4:56Speaker 4: Yes, it's always well attended.
- 4:59Speaker 2: Any something else we should be keeping a particular eye
- 5:03Speaker 2: out for in today's today's edition.
- 5:08Speaker 4: Well, that's the major stuff that we have. And like
- 5:11Speaker 4: you said, the papers coming out today, we're getting actually
- 5:16Speaker 4: loading up and getting ready to deliver them. So that's
- 5:20Speaker 4: that's it.
- 5:22Speaker 2: Well, I hope Chris is going to stay well hydrated.
- 5:25Speaker 2: He is one of several people that are moving how many.
- 5:29Speaker 4: Papers ten thousand every week?
- 5:34Speaker 2: That's crazy, that's crazy. And your partnership, of course with
- 5:41Speaker 2: the Times Argus, how's that going? Are we is this
- 5:44Speaker 2: still in the process?
- 5:47Speaker 4: Actually, we are going really well. We just came out
- 5:51Speaker 4: with the Summer Explorer and it's loaded with summer things
- 5:57Speaker 4: to do at thirty six pages, glossy magazine and it's
- 6:02Speaker 4: absolutely beautiful. And that was both the both World and
- 6:06Speaker 4: the Times Argus working together on that and it looks great.
- 6:09Speaker 3: Wow.
- 6:11Speaker 2: I know that you're always keeping tabs on what's going
- 6:15Speaker 2: on over at thunder Road as well and keeping us
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- 6:36Speaker 2: I think is wonderful that you guys always are.
- 6:39Speaker 4: Putting that in there, that people find that very helpful to,
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- 6:46Speaker 4: gonna need a plumber or someone like that. So it's
- 6:49Speaker 4: good to have their names out there when you're when
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- 6:54Speaker 2: Yeah. Give our best to Gary and I am so excited.
- 6:59Speaker 2: Always look forward to grabbing a fresh copy of the
- 7:02Speaker 2: World out today. Deb Phillips, thank you so much.
- 7:07Speaker 4: Thank you, jab.
- 7:08Speaker 2: Pleasure chatting with her every Wednesday morning, seventy five again
- 7:12Speaker 2: right now here in Barry, we have sun, we have
- 7:16Speaker 2: clouds and eighty five. A little bit later on today,
- 7:19Speaker 2: clear skies tonight fifty six degrees. There we go. Might
- 7:26Speaker 2: even be able to shut the AC off for a
- 7:28Speaker 2: night Tomorrow, clouds and sun to start the day and
- 7:33Speaker 2: then mostly cloudy with some rain showers that are going
- 7:37Speaker 2: to be moving in seventy three for the daytime high tomorrow.
- 7:43Speaker 2: I know, big change up. This is that cool front
- 7:46Speaker 2: that we were telling you, promising you that it would
- 7:49Speaker 2: becoming sixty five for the high on Friday, I know,
- 7:55Speaker 2: rain showers and the weekend first half of it is
- 8:00Speaker 2: especially looks like a rain and seventy on Saturday and
- 8:04Speaker 2: then Sunday cloudy skyes and eighty degrees. I'm going to
- 8:09Speaker 2: bring on right now a special guest who I am
- 8:12Speaker 2: so excited to introduce, Matt Berry.
- 8:15Speaker 3: And you know it's funny, Matt.
- 8:17Speaker 2: I'm almost like saying Matt Berry from Sweethearts and Heroes.
- 8:22Speaker 2: But technically you're not a staff member, am I right?
- 8:26Speaker 5: No, I'm not.
- 8:27Speaker 6: I'd love to be, as much as I do love
- 8:30Speaker 6: my job, I would love to be on Tom's staff,
- 8:34Speaker 6: but I am not. I am the principal of Peru
- 8:36Speaker 6: High School in upstate Peru, New York.
- 8:38Speaker 2: And this is your school that has been very, very
- 8:43Speaker 2: active with Sweethearts and Heroes.
- 8:47Speaker 6: Yeah, they came by I want to say seven years
- 8:51Speaker 6: ago now through a sponsorship that one of our old counselors,
- 8:56Speaker 6: Tom Bull, got through a Chevy dealership and it was
- 9:00Speaker 6: one of those things where we're like, well, we're going
- 9:02Speaker 6: to have a We're going to have a assembly. And
- 9:05Speaker 6: I was the middle school dean of students at the time,
- 9:08Speaker 6: an athletic director, and I told Tom m'd help out
- 9:13Speaker 6: because he's a friend of mine. And met Tom and
- 9:16Speaker 6: for the first time and had some quirky exchanges. I
- 9:19Speaker 6: know that's been your same experience, JD. And we went
- 9:24Speaker 6: down and they had this assembly that was absolutely amazing, tears, laughter, seriousness,
- 9:33Speaker 6: faculty and staff alike, middle school students, high school students,
- 9:36Speaker 6: and that's where we were really sold. And then after that,
- 9:41Speaker 6: if nobody wants to talk about this, but I playfully
- 9:45Speaker 6: call it the Other Sea word. Sorry if that's inappropriate
- 9:49Speaker 6: for your your show, but not at all. If I
- 9:52Speaker 6: remember correctly, you're you're a guy who enjoys that kind
- 9:55Speaker 6: of banter, Yes, sir, So the Other Sea word COVID
- 9:59Speaker 6: hit and we were reeling with our kids. They were
- 10:03Speaker 6: they were struggling, and I called Tom out of the
- 10:06Speaker 6: blue Murphy and he and I just had this this
- 10:10Speaker 6: really good exchange, and you know, I think we we
- 10:12Speaker 6: just kind of hit it off, and I said, what.
- 10:14Speaker 5: Are you doing?
- 10:14Speaker 6: And there was just this level of common understanding about
- 10:20Speaker 6: humanity and dignity and some really you know, common backgrounds.
- 10:26Speaker 6: I was never a professional athlete like he was, but
- 10:29Speaker 6: athletics and dedication, loyalty. So we really hit it off.
- 10:33Speaker 6: And he did a virtual assembly for our students, and
- 10:37Speaker 6: I think he would admittedly say it wasn't as powerful,
- 10:41Speaker 6: but I do remember he said, you know, I'd like
- 10:42Speaker 6: to come meet you in person again and sit down
- 10:46Speaker 6: now that I had.
- 10:46Speaker 5: Evolved into the principle.
- 10:48Speaker 6: And then from there we just we just took our
- 10:51Speaker 6: program to where it is.
- 10:52Speaker 2: Now, which is massive, and we're talking about a school
- 10:58Speaker 2: that is many students.
- 11:00Speaker 6: Again, Matt, we have five hundred and forty seven in
- 11:03Speaker 6: the high school in district wide, they're just short of
- 11:07Speaker 6: two thousand. Not a giant school, but it's also not
- 11:11Speaker 6: what I would consider a small school either.
- 11:14Speaker 2: No, you know, the thing is, and you and I
- 11:17Speaker 2: both know this that once you meet Tom, especially if
- 11:24Speaker 2: you experienced one of his assemblies with Sweethearts and heroes,
- 11:29Speaker 2: the guy is just infectious. He just brings about positivity
- 11:40Speaker 2: and wears that right on his shirt sleeve. And the students,
- 11:44Speaker 2: of course, I mean, the faculty definitely picks up on
- 11:48Speaker 2: that your administration, but the students feel that more than anything, The.
- 11:54Speaker 6: Students love him. You know, our people love him. He's
- 11:58Speaker 6: just been such a backbone to what we've done because
- 12:01Speaker 6: he believed in us. And I think that's the thing
- 12:04Speaker 6: that I really appreciated appreciate about Tom is you will
- 12:07Speaker 6: know where he stands, and he will never be rude
- 12:10Speaker 6: to anybody. That's just not his style. But you know,
- 12:13Speaker 6: when he believes in you, and he believed in us,
- 12:15Speaker 6: and he saw what we had as potential, and then
- 12:18Speaker 6: he brought his other team members are our way. Pat Fish,
- 12:21Speaker 6: who's spent for two years, spent monthly visits with us.
- 12:26Speaker 6: We didn't have him this past year and and we
- 12:28Speaker 6: just noticed how much we miss him. So we're actually
- 12:30Speaker 6: working on trying to get him back into our school
- 12:32Speaker 6: next year. So just the connection, you know. I know
- 12:36Speaker 6: Tom has visited thousands, tens of thousands of schools. He
- 12:40Speaker 6: and Rick, who is another amazing person and part of
- 12:43Speaker 6: their team. I know that, but I feel Tom to
- 12:48Speaker 6: be part of our community. Our kids know him, they
- 12:50Speaker 6: know who he is, they know that when they go
- 12:51Speaker 6: down the hallway, they are safe, but they are going
- 12:55Speaker 6: to have to interact with Tom.
- 12:57Speaker 5: They just know that that's going to happen.
- 12:59Speaker 6: And I think most people know that when they meet
- 13:01Speaker 6: Tom is you are you are going to have an
- 13:03Speaker 6: interaction and you don't know what question he's going to
- 13:05Speaker 6: ask you, and you're you're You're going to be put
- 13:09Speaker 6: into place to be a little bit vulnerable.
- 13:10Speaker 5: And I think that in a good way.
- 13:12Speaker 6: And that's what we are trying to teach our kids
- 13:15Speaker 6: is there is such a fear right now among students
- 13:18Speaker 6: to show vulnerability, to show to really recognize their own
- 13:23Speaker 6: dignity and others dignity and a drop of empathy mental health.
- 13:28Speaker 6: Mix that in with the you know, and I hate
- 13:30Speaker 6: to say it out loud, but mix that in with
- 13:31Speaker 6: the gigantic increase in suicide rate in the last twenty years.
- 13:36Speaker 5: We have.
- 13:36Speaker 6: We have a situation that we as school adults are
- 13:40Speaker 6: responsible to deal with. And Tom has really paved the
- 13:44Speaker 6: way for us here at Peru to have a a
- 13:46Speaker 6: plan beyond an assembly to address that problem.
- 13:51Speaker 2: I have asked this question before, even Carlota Carlotta Parentoni,
- 13:57Speaker 2: who was on Waite River School principle. And I'll ask
- 14:02Speaker 2: you the same thing. What do you say to schools
- 14:07Speaker 2: anywhere who are unfamiliar with sweethearts and heroes.
- 14:14Speaker 6: I would say it would be the most unique experience
- 14:18Speaker 6: you could bring to your school. It would be the
- 14:20Speaker 6: most unique experience in the realm of social emotional learning,
- 14:24Speaker 6: self awareness, empathy and emphasis on empathy, understanding how to
- 14:30Speaker 6: empower students to help others. And I'm gonna say this,
- 14:35Speaker 6: And it might be controversial JD.
- 14:36Speaker 5: Maybe not.
- 14:38Speaker 6: I'm not on podcasts very often, so maybe I'm being
- 14:41Speaker 6: a little bit careful, But my.
- 14:42Speaker 2: Man, you can get as controversially it's called the aired out.
- 14:46Speaker 3: You go.
- 14:47Speaker 5: Well, I'll tell you this.
- 14:49Speaker 6: The kids may the kids will never bring a bullying
- 14:52Speaker 6: problem to someone like me, maybe time to time, But
- 14:56Speaker 6: I find out when they come to someone like me,
- 14:58Speaker 6: a principal, an associate principle, they almost one hundred percent
- 15:02Speaker 6: of the time say, I don't want you to call
- 15:05Speaker 6: them in your office. I don't want them to know
- 15:08Speaker 6: it was me. I don't want you to tell my parents.
- 15:12Speaker 6: As we know those are impossibilities for me, and at
- 15:17Speaker 6: the high school level especially, they know that those are
- 15:20Speaker 6: impossibilities for me. And therefore so many of these things
- 15:23Speaker 6: go unrecorded, excuse me, unreported, and what we try to
- 15:29Speaker 6: what Tom brings to the game, and what we have
- 15:31Speaker 6: tried to do through systematic programming, through bully drills, through
- 15:36Speaker 6: other programs such as our STEP program, which I can
- 15:40Speaker 6: speak to briefly. We get our high school students, after
- 15:45Speaker 6: being trained by Sweethearts and Heroes and going through curriculum,
- 15:48Speaker 6: they go down and they run actual bully drills with
- 15:50Speaker 6: elementary school students being you know, hence the name Sweethearts
- 15:55Speaker 6: and Heroes being the hero trying to get somebody out
- 15:57Speaker 6: of the situation. And it's not like you should walk
- 16:00Speaker 6: up to that person and fight them. That's not the message.
- 16:03Speaker 6: It is walk up to the victim many times and
- 16:06Speaker 6: say I need you to come with me.
- 16:08Speaker 5: Why don't you come?
- 16:10Speaker 6: You know, let let's go see mister Armstrong and work
- 16:13Speaker 6: on our algebra. If they're they're in a situation, that's
- 16:15Speaker 6: that that they're sad in, you know, or just a sweetheart.
- 16:19Speaker 6: You see somebody with their head down crying, don't leave
- 16:23Speaker 6: them there. That's a wilted flower. That that flower needs
- 16:27Speaker 6: some some water, that flower needs some attention, and even
- 16:30Speaker 6: just saying hey, I you know, I don't know you
- 16:32Speaker 6: real well, but I can just go talk to your
- 16:35Speaker 6: counselor for you and say you're in trouble, I can
- 16:37Speaker 6: I can bring you to another space.
- 16:39Speaker 5: How can I help you?
- 16:40Speaker 6: Even just doing that and getting an answer from that
- 16:43Speaker 6: person in distress might be oh, thank you, but I'm good,
- 16:46Speaker 6: or just you know, I just need to be left alone.
- 16:48Speaker 6: At least they know someone cares about them, and that's
- 16:51Speaker 6: what we're trying to infuse in our culture with our
- 16:53Speaker 6: high school students, trying to affect change with our elementary
- 16:57Speaker 6: student students, but also amongst their high school peers.
- 17:01Speaker 2: Matt, we're living in a world and you know this
- 17:06Speaker 2: where man, there is so much stuff going on that
- 17:11Speaker 2: we are almost wired, We're almost programmed in a way
- 17:16Speaker 2: to if it's not your problem, don't get involved. If
- 17:23Speaker 2: you do get involved, it's going to be your problem
- 17:27Speaker 2: and you're going to get caught up in this web.
- 17:32Speaker 2: It's best to look the other way. It sounds like
- 17:38Speaker 2: you guys are doing the opposite of that. At Peru
- 17:41Speaker 2: High School.
- 17:43Speaker 5: We are trying.
- 17:45Speaker 6: You know, I can't I'm not gonna be I'm not
- 17:47Speaker 6: going to stay on air here that we are perfect,
- 17:49Speaker 6: that this is just.
- 17:52Speaker 5: Completely fool proof, and so on and so forth.
- 17:55Speaker 6: If I had the recipe for what is completely fool
- 17:58Speaker 6: proof about humanity, because that's who we deal with, right,
- 18:01Speaker 6: we deal with humans. Yeah, and if if I had
- 18:03Speaker 6: that answer, you know, I think I'd probably not be
- 18:09Speaker 6: sitting in the chair that I am right now. And
- 18:12Speaker 6: I don't have those answers. But I can tell you
- 18:14Speaker 6: one thing that I think that I believe personally, and
- 18:17Speaker 6: i'm and I think we're trying to get this message
- 18:19Speaker 6: out to our students. If you aren't part of the solution,
- 18:22Speaker 6: you are part of the problem.
- 18:25Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 18:25Speaker 2: Wow, so well said, and what a great way to
- 18:30Speaker 2: live your life. And just to have that in the
- 18:33Speaker 2: back of your mind. I mean, my little girl and
- 18:37Speaker 2: we had this chat yesterday where you know, she's she
- 18:45Speaker 2: just wants to be everyone's saving grace. She wants to
- 18:53Speaker 2: be the hero every time. But there's there's some parameters.
- 19:00Speaker 2: And I think Tom and all of Sweethearts and Heroes
- 19:06Speaker 2: defines that very well of protocol that you should go about,
- 19:11Speaker 2: and it's it's not necessarily the same way that you
- 19:17Speaker 2: or I did when we were in elementary school. Being
- 19:22Speaker 2: a hero, which was done a different way, you know
- 19:25Speaker 2: what I'm talking about. But there's protocol, there's there's the
- 19:28Speaker 2: right way to be that hero, and there's there's the
- 19:32Speaker 2: wrong way.
- 19:36Speaker 6: Yeah, they're they're, they're like And maybe I'm a little
- 19:40Speaker 6: bit cliche, but I try to hang myself on some
- 19:42Speaker 6: of these words that I run through my head over
- 19:45Speaker 6: and over again. It just kind of guides my behavior.
- 19:47Speaker 6: You know, before I said, if you're not part of
- 19:49Speaker 6: the solution, you're part of the problem. And that just
- 19:52Speaker 6: reminds me of you know, I'm sorry, JD. I lost
- 19:56Speaker 6: my thought at you.
- 19:58Speaker 2: No, just just that when when you and I were
- 20:02Speaker 2: were young, not not that we aren't young, but we
- 20:06Speaker 2: were the hero at the playground, or we're in the gym,
- 20:12Speaker 2: or when in the parking lot after after high school,
- 20:16Speaker 2: in a in a in a different kind of way
- 20:19Speaker 2: that wasn't necessarily super beneficial.
- 20:24Speaker 5: Yeah, you got me right back on track.
- 20:26Speaker 3: Yeah right, it's different. Now it's different. Now there's there's
- 20:29Speaker 3: no call.
- 20:30Speaker 6: And I guess I'll just you know, again the cliche
- 20:32Speaker 6: sayings is nothing extreme is sustainable, And you know what,
- 20:37Speaker 6: what we probably did and I'll probably talk to a
- 20:39Speaker 6: lot of people out there who like this saying I
- 20:42Speaker 6: like this saying I might be Tom might call me
- 20:44Speaker 6: a little bit of a generational narcissist. But the nineties
- 20:47Speaker 6: kids are the kids I think you're talking about, like
- 20:50Speaker 6: the nineties kids.
- 20:51Speaker 3: And eighties, eighties, two.
- 20:53Speaker 6: Eighties, yeah, absolutely, seventies six that these generations, you know,
- 20:58Speaker 6: you know, I think of my father and some of
- 21:00Speaker 6: the stories that he told me. Yeah, that that that
- 21:02Speaker 6: was justice, so to speak, looked a little different. And
- 21:07Speaker 6: I think what we've found out as generation to generation
- 21:10Speaker 6: passes on is that's kind of extreme behavior and it's
- 21:14Speaker 6: not really healthy and it doesn't make the situation better.
- 21:16Speaker 5: It only makes it worse. Yeah, divide things.
- 21:20Speaker 6: It divides people, and therefore I think we've seen some
- 21:25Speaker 6: of those extreme behaviors poke out of the nineties. If
- 21:29Speaker 6: you know, not to be too I was a former
- 21:31Speaker 6: history teacher, but not to be too historical. You see
- 21:34Speaker 6: the extreme behaviors maybe because of the extreme approach to
- 21:39Speaker 6: trying to handle something.
- 21:40Speaker 2: Sure, you know, the thing is you not only have
- 21:45Speaker 2: to have students know how to react, what the best
- 21:51Speaker 2: way to respond and react to this, but also your administration.
- 21:58Speaker 2: They've got to be trained and man, Tom does, and
- 22:02Speaker 2: you do such a great job with that that they're
- 22:05Speaker 2: not reacting in a way that's exacerbating things.
- 22:13Speaker 5: It is such a hard thing, you know.
- 22:16Speaker 6: I'm actually happy to that you brought up that question
- 22:18Speaker 6: because it is a daily struggle.
- 22:21Speaker 5: I can probably relate.
- 22:24Speaker 6: Maybe this comment will probably resonate with many of the
- 22:26Speaker 6: principles and associate principles out there, or people who have
- 22:29Speaker 6: to make a decision. You have a code of conduct
- 22:32Speaker 6: in your school, you know, at least in New York State,
- 22:35Speaker 6: that's what we are charged with have to have. You
- 22:38Speaker 6: have a code of conduct in your school. Everybody who
- 22:42Speaker 6: puts their feet on your campus are subject to that
- 22:45Speaker 6: code of conduct. Well, that code of conduct does say
- 22:48Speaker 6: things such as you know, for example, and this isn't
- 22:52Speaker 6: word for word, but let's well we can talk about this.
- 22:56Speaker 6: So if you're caught with a vape at Peru, you
- 22:58Speaker 6: get one day of ISS as the book, So that's
- 23:02Speaker 6: a nicotine vape. That's not you know, and I don't
- 23:05Speaker 6: want to get too deep into this, but that's not
- 23:08Speaker 6: a THHC vape. That's a nicotine vape. You automatically get
- 23:11Speaker 6: one day of ISS, which is in school suspension for us,
- 23:16Speaker 6: and you're in a room for the day, and your
- 23:18Speaker 6: teachers bring you your work, and you get a couple
- 23:20Speaker 6: of bathroom passes, and that's in our code of conduct.
- 23:25Speaker 5: But what people don't.
- 23:26Speaker 6: Know is the conversation that I have with that student
- 23:30Speaker 6: beforehand about you know, maybe catching that student in my
- 23:32Speaker 6: school and having the conversation with how they're surrounded by
- 23:36Speaker 6: their own family by addiction and that this is the
- 23:39Speaker 6: thing that they've learned and this was given to them
- 23:41Speaker 6: maybe by an uncle at eight years old. Sure, who's
- 23:45Speaker 6: who's now this student at fourteen sure is completely addicted, right,
- 23:52Speaker 6: And that one day of in school suspension is not
- 23:54Speaker 6: going to knock the addiction away from this student. We
- 23:59Speaker 6: do have other policies in our code of conduct. I'm
- 24:01Speaker 6: glad to say that there's an automatic referral to a
- 24:04Speaker 6: prevention counselor in our code of conduct. Therefore it's what
- 24:07Speaker 6: the student is expected to do. But I use that
- 24:11Speaker 6: example because it is so hard sometimes when you see
- 24:15Speaker 6: there might be an egregious break of your code of
- 24:17Speaker 6: conduct or just egregious behavior, you are having a conversation
- 24:21Speaker 6: with this student, You see the remorse, you see the
- 24:23Speaker 6: devastation you're talking with the family.
- 24:25Speaker 5: This is going to destroy the family.
- 24:27Speaker 6: This might even be the the you know, the mistake
- 24:30Speaker 6: that a high school student neede that puts them in
- 24:32Speaker 6: a different house. So it is about the tightest rope
- 24:38Speaker 6: to walk upholding what your community basically votes on. You
- 24:44Speaker 6: know that they vote in New York State anyway. You
- 24:46Speaker 6: vote on the Board of Education to make fiscal decisions
- 24:50Speaker 6: and policy decisions for the community. And when they adopt
- 24:53Speaker 6: the code of conduct, that's what the expectations of the
- 24:56Speaker 6: administrators are. And that code of conduct, like any code
- 24:59Speaker 6: of conduct, do not take in the narratives that are
- 25:02Speaker 6: out there that really exist. And a boy, it's heavy,
- 25:08Speaker 6: it's heavy, and it's such a hard thing. I'm really
- 25:10Speaker 6: glad you brought that question up.
- 25:11Speaker 2: Matthew Berry is the principle of Peru High School. He
- 25:17Speaker 2: is with us, our guest on a Wednesday morning. This
- 25:20Speaker 2: is when we talk about sweet hearts and heroes every
- 25:25Speaker 2: single Wednesday. Matt is again the principle of Peru High School,
- 25:29Speaker 2: which has been very actively connected and involved with sweethearts
- 25:34Speaker 2: and heroes now for how many years.
- 25:36Speaker 5: Matt, I think we're going on seven, okay, six and change.
- 25:41Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, man, When I was just over
- 25:45Speaker 2: there a couple of weeks ago, I was struck by
- 25:51Speaker 2: a lot of things in a positive way. First of all,
- 25:54Speaker 2: I haven't stepped foot in high school in a long time.
- 25:57Speaker 2: During school hours and seeing all the kids and my wow,
- 26:03Speaker 2: just the technology and everything was just amazing. But the
- 26:08Speaker 2: positivity in the hallways, just in the short time that
- 26:14Speaker 2: I was there, coming in from the outside and knowing
- 26:19Speaker 2: that you know, you guys aren't walking around saying, hey,
- 26:21Speaker 2: we've got an outsider coming in. Everyone on their best behavior.
- 26:24Speaker 2: But the camaraderie among the students and respect was very
- 26:31Speaker 2: different from my high school. The students that I talked with,
- 26:39Speaker 2: and I don't know those probably maybe fifteen ish ten
- 26:44Speaker 2: or fifteen, man, did they have nothing but great things
- 26:49Speaker 2: to say about you, words like he's the real deal.
- 26:56Speaker 2: We love him, we respect him, he doesn't fool around.
- 27:04Speaker 2: Your students really speak quite highly of you, Matt, even
- 27:11Speaker 2: with regard to and it was having some fun with
- 27:14Speaker 2: them a little bit about the whole cell phone thing,
- 27:18Speaker 2: which I want you to tell us about, because.
- 27:23Speaker 3: Please tell us about the whole cell phone thing.
- 27:25Speaker 5: Okay, So they love you.
- 27:28Speaker 3: They love you, though Matt Well.
- 27:31Speaker 6: I that honestly, I got goosebumps because of that. And
- 27:34Speaker 6: you know, to be honest with you, you might have talked
- 27:37Speaker 6: to the right fifteen kids, because I'm sure there's just
- 27:40Speaker 6: like anywhere else and you know there's fifteen kids who
- 27:43Speaker 6: would probably like to see me go elsewhere. Yes, however,
- 27:47Speaker 6: you know one thing that you know, I'm very happy
- 27:50Speaker 6: and I and I will say this without with trying
- 27:52Speaker 6: to be as humble as possible.
- 27:54Speaker 5: You're probably the fifth, sixth or seventh.
- 27:57Speaker 6: Guest guest that we've had to Peru High School who
- 27:59Speaker 6: said the exact same thing.
- 28:01Speaker 3: Wow.
- 28:02Speaker 6: Loudon, who works for Tom said this. He said, you
- 28:04Speaker 6: guys must have coached these kids up. I'm like, and
- 28:07Speaker 6: be honest with you, I don't have time to coach
- 28:08Speaker 6: kids up. We had a graphics designer who did some
- 28:13Speaker 6: of those new graphics that you probably saw when you
- 28:15Speaker 6: came in to our school, who said, I had one
- 28:18Speaker 6: of your students offer me lunch. So I'm very proud
- 28:23Speaker 6: of that, and I'm glad that you brought it up.
- 28:25Speaker 6: I do think it's part of we don't emphasize anything
- 28:31Speaker 6: but human dignity and empathy. We emphasize it. Do we
- 28:35Speaker 6: all drop it sometimes? Yes, myself included, But that's our emphasis.
- 28:39Speaker 6: We repeat it over and over again. And I have
- 28:42Speaker 6: a great staff here who is polite. And I'll tell you,
- 28:47Speaker 6: I try to be polite. And I know I have
- 28:48Speaker 6: my moments and I'm a principal. I have to have
- 28:51Speaker 6: my moments. I gotta I have a little bark when
- 28:54Speaker 6: I need to. I believe I could be wrong, maybe
- 28:56Speaker 6: it's too much or whatever. But at the same time,
- 28:59Speaker 6: I try to say hi to every student. I try
- 29:01Speaker 6: to meet their make there an acquaintance with them where
- 29:04Speaker 6: I know more than just their name. Most I'm there.
- 29:07Speaker 6: I got some work to do, however, I do. I
- 29:11Speaker 6: do think that our programming through speet, Arts and Heroes
- 29:13Speaker 6: has been a big catalyst for that.
- 29:16Speaker 5: So phones.
- 29:19Speaker 6: New York State has put a bell to bell ban
- 29:24Speaker 6: on cell phones in schools in New York State. I
- 29:29Speaker 6: am in disagreement with many people on this, as I
- 29:32Speaker 6: think it is a terrific move. Many people, many other
- 29:36Speaker 6: administrators are saying they want it to be a local
- 29:38Speaker 6: decision and they will manage it locally. And how we
- 29:41Speaker 6: do those things because we know our schools and our
- 29:44Speaker 6: community I disagree.
- 29:47Speaker 5: I do.
- 29:47Speaker 6: I flat out disagree with them. We did it for
- 29:50Speaker 6: two weeks here, two weeks, a two week pilot at
- 29:53Speaker 6: the end of the school year when it was our time,
- 29:56Speaker 6: where we did have some tests inserted here and there,
- 29:58Speaker 6: so we didn't have you know, we probably got a
- 30:01Speaker 6: seven to nine day trial on it. We had a
- 30:05Speaker 6: few issues, when when I say a few, I mean
- 30:10Speaker 6: to to two issues where students just were not going
- 30:14Speaker 6: to give up their phone and they couldn't make it
- 30:16Speaker 6: through the day. However, and Tom has some video evidence
- 30:20Speaker 6: of this, and I have some video evidence of this.
- 30:22Speaker 6: He randomly went around and he interviewed students and they
- 30:28Speaker 6: expressed some from frustration from time to time. And but
- 30:33Speaker 6: for the most part, the underlying issue is I feel better.
- 30:38Speaker 6: I don't have to check it. I'm not chasing it.
- 30:41Speaker 6: I'm not worried about, you know, what's going on in
- 30:44Speaker 6: social media. I'm not worried about missing something. I'm not
- 30:47Speaker 6: worried about catching up with the Jones. I'm not making
- 30:50Speaker 6: this up. And people out there, you know, you can
- 30:52Speaker 6: say he's not telling the truth. I am telling the truth.
- 30:54Speaker 6: I got video evidence. I will also tell you that
- 30:58Speaker 6: I don't And here's another, maybe a little bit of
- 31:01Speaker 6: controversial one. I don't think the problem lies with the kids.
- 31:05Speaker 6: The problem lies with the parents who want to speak
- 31:07Speaker 6: to their kids all day long. That's part of the problem.
- 31:13Speaker 3: Wow, that's a bold statement, Matt.
- 31:18Speaker 5: I'll say it in any arena.
- 31:20Speaker 3: Wow.
- 31:22Speaker 2: I happen to agree with you. But it is a sticky,
- 31:29Speaker 2: sticky subject and something that we're not everyone is gonna
- 31:34Speaker 2: a cree hunt. But the bottom line is, as if
- 31:39Speaker 2: we don't have enough distractions going on during our day
- 31:42Speaker 2: at school. At school is the place where we're supposed
- 31:45Speaker 2: to be learning. We're supposed to be learning a lot
- 31:47Speaker 2: of stuff, not just in the classroom, but we're supposed
- 31:51Speaker 2: to be engaging with the administration, with the staff, with
- 31:54Speaker 2: other students, which is all part of the learning process.
- 32:01Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but I mean so many
- 32:03Speaker 2: of us could spend an entire day easily wasted eight, nine,
- 32:07Speaker 2: ten hours looking at her phones. I mean there's always
- 32:11Speaker 2: going to be something on that phone that is going
- 32:16Speaker 2: to be asking for your attention.
- 32:18Speaker 6: Absolutely, I don't live in a glass house. I scroll
- 32:23Speaker 6: through it too. I'm not any I'm the only reason
- 32:26Speaker 6: I'm on Instagram is to follow my daughters in their
- 32:28Speaker 6: basketball endeavors, and because a lot of things that they
- 32:32Speaker 6: do are posted. Actually Vermont based team Lone Wolf Athletics,
- 32:36Speaker 6: I actually coach for my daughters play for. They're amazing
- 32:40Speaker 6: for those basketball people out there. That's the only reason
- 32:44Speaker 6: I have Instagram and I don't have Facebook. But I
- 32:47Speaker 6: do understand the utility of social media. My wife probably
- 32:52Speaker 6: hates this, but I'd like troll her social media because
- 32:55Speaker 6: I don't have it. But I also want to be
- 32:57Speaker 6: in tune. So therein lies the absolute issue. You know,
- 33:01Speaker 6: that that we have is even something I don't have.
- 33:04Speaker 6: I want to look at it. It's like the you know,
- 33:06Speaker 6: when you're when we were probably coming up in your
- 33:09Speaker 6: neighbor got the PlayStation two or PlayStation one. You wanted
- 33:12Speaker 6: to go over there and play it. It is very similar.
- 33:15Speaker 6: It's very similar. But I'll say this about the phones.
- 33:18Speaker 6: And you know, I am a sports guy. I've done
- 33:20Speaker 6: a lot of coaching. However, I think these rules lie
- 33:26Speaker 6: not so much rules, but guidelines lie tried and true
- 33:29Speaker 6: for all aspects of life that the fundamentals drive the
- 33:34Speaker 6: biggest success. The fundamentals of basketball, the fundamentals of playing
- 33:38Speaker 6: the flute, the fundamentals of being a nurse, the fundamentals
- 33:42Speaker 6: of education. And I think when this phone is out
- 33:46Speaker 6: of our hands, it allows us to take a trip
- 33:48Speaker 6: back to the fundamentals, like going to a restaurant with
- 33:52Speaker 6: your family possibly or or friends even and not being
- 33:56Speaker 6: locked in on a phone, or having one kid locked
- 33:58Speaker 6: in on a phone three others talk, or mom and
- 34:02Speaker 6: dad talk, or mom and dad are on the phone.
- 34:05Speaker 6: You know, for me when we grew up, and again
- 34:07Speaker 6: this is soapbox high horse stuff, but when for me
- 34:09Speaker 6: when I grew up, if I was going to go
- 34:11Speaker 6: out to dinner with my family, we were.
- 34:12Speaker 3: Going to talk.
- 34:12Speaker 6: I didn't have the option of the phone. I totally
- 34:14Speaker 6: understand that. But that's a time where you engage. And
- 34:18Speaker 6: I think you mentioned that when you were at our school.
- 34:20Speaker 6: Jd that and to me, that's the version of the layup.
- 34:26Speaker 6: That's the version of the fundamental that we need to
- 34:29Speaker 6: get back to.
- 34:31Speaker 2: Tom wants me to ask you about the white board
- 34:35Speaker 2: behind you.
- 34:38Speaker 6: I was slacking a little bit this year, but this
- 34:40Speaker 6: is this, This was in starting in the school year
- 34:44Speaker 6: of twenty three twenty four. This was the number of
- 34:47Speaker 6: circles that I that I engaged in with either students
- 34:50Speaker 6: or faculty, and I just kept track of it because
- 34:55Speaker 6: Pat Fish was here one day and he talked about
- 34:58Speaker 6: being in seven hundred.
- 34:59Speaker 5: I remember the number, and this is what made me
- 35:00Speaker 5: do it. Seven hundred.
- 35:01Speaker 6: I think it was seven hundred and forty three circles
- 35:03Speaker 6: at the particular point in the year. And I'm like, well,
- 35:05Speaker 6: I'm gonna start keeping track. So I have in my
- 35:10Speaker 6: twenty four to twenty five circles. You can see it
- 35:12Speaker 6: even got e raised a little bit because that's where
- 35:13Speaker 6: my shoulder.
- 35:14Speaker 5: Is on my chair. I don't have.
- 35:18Speaker 6: I didn't make my one hundred, and I'm I'm I'm
- 35:22Speaker 6: not ashamed to say that, but I'm gonna go back
- 35:24Speaker 6: at it and we're gonna get my one. So that's
- 35:26Speaker 6: my goal, one hundred circles per school year. And I
- 35:30Speaker 6: do start July first, for you know, just full disclosure.
- 35:33Speaker 6: So next week I will be restarting my circle count
- 35:38Speaker 6: for twenty five twenty six and I'm hoping to get
- 35:40Speaker 6: to one hundred. I did slack this year, and yeah,
- 35:45Speaker 6: I'm coming back. I'm coming back with a vengeance.
- 35:47Speaker 2: Listen, man, for the for for folks that are maybe
- 35:51Speaker 2: just tuning in the first time on a Wednesday, or
- 35:53Speaker 2: they're not familiar with sweetheartshed heroes, or they've never caught
- 35:58Speaker 2: one of our episodes. In the asked about circle. This
- 36:03Speaker 2: is an ancient I don't want to say ritual, what's
- 36:10Speaker 2: the word. It's just an an ancient.
- 36:14Speaker 5: An ancient common practice of yes.
- 36:17Speaker 2: Of getting people together in a circle so we can
- 36:22Speaker 2: all see each other's face and going around the circle
- 36:27Speaker 2: and communicating, whether it's an open ended question, idea, sharing,
- 36:33Speaker 2: whatever it may be. And I was part of that
- 36:37Speaker 2: experience for the first time that my first circle experience
- 36:41Speaker 2: at Peru High School a couple of weeks ago with
- 36:44Speaker 2: your students and Tom, and it was amazing on so
- 36:52Speaker 2: many different levels. Right away, Tom was like, what you think?
- 36:58Speaker 2: And I was like, extremely difficult for me to not interrupt,
- 37:06Speaker 2: not interject something, follow up questions, which that's what I
- 37:14Speaker 2: do for a living, that's who I am, just a
- 37:21Speaker 2: curious guy intrinsically, and I was just like, man, I
- 37:27Speaker 2: need to find out more. I need some follow up here.
- 37:31Speaker 2: And Tom's just got the and that was one of
- 37:37Speaker 2: the hardest parts for me, but to be forced to
- 37:41Speaker 2: listen and by the time we've gone around the full circle.
- 37:48Speaker 2: I'd forgotten all my follow up questions that I had.
- 37:52Speaker 3: For that guy at the beginning.
- 37:54Speaker 2: But what an impact to listen to to people in
- 38:00Speaker 2: a circle who are free to speak without any parameters,
- 38:05Speaker 2: and free to speak for basically as long as they
- 38:11Speaker 2: want to. And there were some students who had some
- 38:15Speaker 2: pretty long pauses in there where there was maybe some hesitation,
- 38:22Speaker 2: But to sit and listen to that, it was incredible,
- 38:27Speaker 2: and there was laughter, and there was there were tears,
- 38:31Speaker 2: all within probably an hour's time.
- 38:33Speaker 6: Matt, Yeah, it's amazing. I had to say a similar experience, JD.
- 38:39Speaker 6: I was the old ball coach who you know here
- 38:42Speaker 6: I am, I'm here to drill and I coach basketball,
- 38:47Speaker 6: I teach social studies and full disclosure. I said them
- 38:51Speaker 6: in that order for a reason, and I hate to
- 38:53Speaker 6: say it out loud, but it was the truth. I
- 38:56Speaker 6: sat in my first circle because a friend of mine said,
- 38:59Speaker 6: you got to try it, and ever since that day
- 39:02Speaker 6: when I also had laughter, tears and total seriousness and
- 39:07Speaker 6: everything in between in about an hour. I also wasn't
- 39:10Speaker 6: a believer, and it said we need to bring this
- 39:13Speaker 6: to our students. I can't imagine you know, being in
- 39:18Speaker 6: high school when I was being willing to being willing
- 39:23Speaker 6: to do that. Here, our kids love it. Our kids
- 39:29Speaker 6: for the most part. Now it's not for it's not
- 39:31Speaker 6: for all students because they're not there yet. And maybe
- 39:33Speaker 6: it is for all students because there's so much There's
- 39:36Speaker 6: so much that I could say about this, but we
- 39:38Speaker 6: talked about fundamentals, and we talked about an ancient practice.
- 39:40Speaker 5: Well, there you go.
- 39:41Speaker 6: It's a fundamental and what a way, what a way
- 39:45Speaker 6: to balance the power of a space, right, because students
- 39:50Speaker 6: have some students have more power than others.
- 39:53Speaker 5: They may know what, they may not, but they do.
- 39:56Speaker 6: It's a it's it's just reality. And this is a
- 40:00Speaker 6: way to balance that power, to take in all perspectives,
- 40:04Speaker 6: to force people to listen, and I don't want to
- 40:07Speaker 6: use the word force, but to allow them to listen,
- 40:11Speaker 6: allow their brain that freedom to listen.
- 40:14Speaker 5: It's kind of liberating.
- 40:15Speaker 2: Yeah, And frankly, and let's just be real blunt here. Frankly,
- 40:23Speaker 2: I think more of us need to practice and maybe
- 40:25Speaker 2: even that home with our families and or our spouses.
- 40:36Speaker 5: If my spouse was on sorry, I had to say that.
- 40:38Speaker 6: That absolutely and you know, maybe I need to get
- 40:46Speaker 6: make sure I get my one hundred. So I continue
- 40:48Speaker 6: to keep that perspective.
- 40:52Speaker 3: My wife.
- 40:54Speaker 2: Is always after me about listening and maybe I should
- 40:58Speaker 2: have a shirt that said yeah but but anyway, five
- 41:06Speaker 2: hundred and forty seven students at Peru High School. That
- 41:11Speaker 2: is remarkable. And to think that your seniors designed, constructed,
- 41:22Speaker 2: with the help of sweethearts and heroes, a program called
- 41:29Speaker 2: Community Days where they're designing a fun, full day that
- 41:36Speaker 2: is filled with obstacle courses and all kinds of team
- 41:40Speaker 2: building events. That they're designing this and putting this together
- 41:44Speaker 2: for younger students for the elementary school unbelievable.
- 41:51Speaker 5: Matt, Yeah, it was.
- 41:53Speaker 6: I mean it came out of the summit attached to
- 41:56Speaker 6: sweethearts and heroes who ran a leadership They called it
- 41:59Speaker 6: the Summit. It was a leadership what I would call
- 42:01Speaker 6: leadership workshop. However, you know, we had we had schools
- 42:06Speaker 6: from around New York State and I believe there was
- 42:08Speaker 6: one school from Vermont there and these we had about
- 42:10Speaker 6: twenty students for me school come together. That's where the
- 42:13Speaker 6: training started. When I talk about a powerful three days,
- 42:18Speaker 6: when I have my students saying to me, I wish
- 42:21Speaker 6: it was longer, you know. They I saw things in
- 42:26Speaker 6: those three days out of students that I never think
- 42:29Speaker 6: thought I would see as a principal, addressing one hundred
- 42:34Speaker 6: and fifty students about some really traumatic events in their life,
- 42:37Speaker 6: address in front of a campfire, addressing one hundred and
- 42:40Speaker 6: fifty students sharing their stories and not not for attention,
- 42:46Speaker 6: but really a level of perspective and sharing. And you know,
- 42:53Speaker 6: that was just one piece of that event, plus the
- 42:56Speaker 6: actual specific training that Tom and Rick and his entire
- 43:00Speaker 6: team put forth.
- 43:01Speaker 5: Pat you know, it.
- 43:04Speaker 6: Was just that's where it started back in September, and
- 43:06Speaker 6: then our students who were at the summit went to
- 43:10Speaker 6: Tom and said, we have an idea, and that's where.
- 43:14Speaker 5: The Fish podcast came out of.
- 43:17Speaker 6: Yeah, but then we have this whole continuing work on
- 43:22Speaker 6: the community day, and I think a lot of people
- 43:23Speaker 6: were nervous. And I'll tell you about a little experience.
- 43:25Speaker 6: I went over to the elementary school and I could
- 43:27Speaker 6: see some teachers who are concerned because they have an
- 43:31Speaker 6: elementary school teacher as a special job, and that's you know,
- 43:34Speaker 6: thirty thirty people she has to care for, you know,
- 43:38Speaker 6: twenty to thirty people that they have she or he
- 43:40Speaker 6: has to care for regularly, and there are so many
- 43:44Speaker 6: more concerns than just two plus two. And I went
- 43:47Speaker 6: in with our students and I said to them and
- 43:50Speaker 6: to try to bring some ease before the event. I'm
- 43:54Speaker 6: very confident when I say this to you. All my
- 43:57Speaker 6: students are trained for this. And that came out of
- 44:02Speaker 6: the class, out of some great work by some amazing
- 44:05Speaker 6: teachers here at Peru, Adam Carter and A Stitt Michelle
- 44:10Speaker 6: paul hemis Jen Gay who worked for Sweethearts and Heroes
- 44:14Speaker 6: and works for Sweethearts and Heroes now but is a
- 44:16Speaker 6: former teacher of ours and coming back to our team.
- 44:21Speaker 5: Mister Pete McCormick.
- 44:24Speaker 6: Carry Pearson, I know I'm probably forgetting somebody, and I
- 44:27Speaker 6: don't want to. It's not intentional for all of these
- 44:30Speaker 6: who are listening out there. But so these people came
- 44:33Speaker 6: together with the students and did an amazing thing in
- 44:34Speaker 6: that community day. And then and here's the greatest part.
- 44:38Speaker 6: We got to stack of letters from the fifth grade
- 44:42Speaker 6: and a call from the one of their teachers, mister Dupree,
- 44:44Speaker 6: saying this was the most fun we've ever had at school.
- 44:51Speaker 6: We've had some teachers walk up to some of our
- 44:53Speaker 6: student facilitators after the event, not knowing them and saying,
- 44:56Speaker 6: whatever you need, whether it's a letter of recommendation or
- 44:59Speaker 6: a job recommendation, whatever you need, you have my name.
- 45:03Speaker 5: That was amazing.
- 45:05Speaker 2: I'm almost jealous that something like this wasn't happening when
- 45:09Speaker 2: I was in the elementary school.
- 45:12Speaker 5: Bad Yeah, really yeah.
- 45:17Speaker 6: I look at a lot of things like you know,
- 45:18Speaker 6: just because I live in education. The opportunities and the
- 45:22Speaker 6: things that schools are doing for children right now really
- 45:26Speaker 6: are amazing. It's not just Peru High School, It's it's
- 45:28Speaker 6: schools in general. They understand I think for the most part,
- 45:32Speaker 6: by and large, on average, schools understand the need for
- 45:34Speaker 6: these sorts of things, and especially the building. I'm so
- 45:37Speaker 6: fortunate I point this way because right up that that
- 45:41Speaker 6: road is our elementary school. I can walk to the
- 45:43Speaker 6: elementary school in less than five minutes. We are our
- 45:46Speaker 6: school is the center of our community. So we have
- 45:48Speaker 6: some advantages in that respect. We don't have a spread
- 45:50Speaker 6: out school district across the road.
- 45:52Speaker 5: Here and there.
- 45:53Speaker 6: We're all right here, so we have to take advantage
- 45:56Speaker 6: of that. We have to know, we have to have
- 45:57Speaker 6: our high school students involved with our younger students, and
- 46:02Speaker 6: you know, and this programming, the Step program that came
- 46:05Speaker 6: out of the summit.
- 46:05Speaker 5: Yeah, boy, you hit that out of the park.
- 46:08Speaker 2: Let's let's go there, because I wanted to ask you
- 46:10Speaker 2: about the well, of course you want to ask you
- 46:12Speaker 2: about freshman orientation, but tell me more about the Step program.
- 46:17Speaker 6: So the Step program, A few of those students who
- 46:19Speaker 6: went to the summit, the Step program allowed some of
- 46:24Speaker 6: our teams of two to go over to our elementary
- 46:28Speaker 6: students and basically put on the presentation a different version
- 46:34Speaker 6: of the presentation that Tom and Rick do about being
- 46:37Speaker 6: a sweetheart, about being a hero, about interjecting into bullying.
- 46:41Speaker 6: And so we had two two students pair together and
- 46:47Speaker 6: do these presentations in the second grade. And it was great,
- 46:51Speaker 6: it was.
- 46:52Speaker 5: It was really moving. Again. We have some video footage
- 46:55Speaker 5: of it that's amazing.
- 46:57Speaker 6: That I know, Sweethearts and Heroes has that footage, and
- 47:01Speaker 6: I can tell you it just it moved the teachers,
- 47:04Speaker 6: it moved the students. And now what I'm hoping happens
- 47:07Speaker 6: is again the fundamentals we can probably all name that.
- 47:12Speaker 6: You know, I heard Tom, you know, on a podcast
- 47:15Speaker 6: the last week say we can probably all name the
- 47:17Speaker 6: student that was picked on and bullied in high school.
- 47:20Speaker 6: We can all name them, right, We can also name
- 47:23Speaker 6: that person that we all looked up to and wanted
- 47:27Speaker 6: to be like, who.
- 47:28Speaker 5: Is just a few years older than us.
- 47:30Speaker 6: Sure, and that's what we're trying to create, is a
- 47:33Speaker 6: system that's out there that creates that. Mine was Ben Saber,
- 47:36Speaker 6: and I can I can tell you this day. He
- 47:37Speaker 6: was about my size. We played all the same sports,
- 47:40Speaker 6: we played all the same positions. He ended up being
- 47:42Speaker 6: a good friend of mine. But he's a little bit older.
- 47:45Speaker 6: But I wanted to be like Ben Saber.
- 47:49Speaker 2: Roger Getz, I mean, I mean here here, I am
- 47:52Speaker 2: fifty four years old. And by remember that literally like
- 47:57Speaker 2: it was yesterday. It's not amazing that this kind of
- 48:01Speaker 2: stuff sticks with us forever.
- 48:06Speaker 5: Matt, absolutely.
- 48:08Speaker 2: And I gotta tell you, man, with all the amazing
- 48:10Speaker 2: things that you guys are doing, to think that you
- 48:18Speaker 2: got a staff member, John Mitchell, whose responsibility is to
- 48:24Speaker 2: capture everything, not only so that we can go back
- 48:30Speaker 2: and relive it in social media and on and on
- 48:37Speaker 2: the web, and uh just for our eyes and ears
- 48:42Speaker 2: only in the staff or or in the school, but
- 48:46Speaker 2: also for at times for the community to be able
- 48:50Speaker 2: to see the impactful work that you guys are doing
- 48:54Speaker 2: and and not just with sweethearts and heroes beyond.
- 49:00Speaker 6: Ye, we're so fortunate to have people like John Mitchell
- 49:03Speaker 6: and a tech department like we have and the willingness
- 49:06Speaker 6: to go above and beyond. You know, we have a
- 49:09Speaker 6: podcast that Peru called the We Are Peru Podcast, and
- 49:14Speaker 6: you know, from time to time we get different people
- 49:16Speaker 6: who play different roles at the school on there or
- 49:19Speaker 6: Tom's been on there. Yeah, just just talking about, you know,
- 49:22Speaker 6: the work we're trying to do. Because I will say
- 49:25Speaker 6: this that there's no more powerful thing in our society
- 49:31Speaker 6: than the narrative.
- 49:34Speaker 5: I think you can see this in the media.
- 49:35Speaker 6: I think you can see it in in not only
- 49:38Speaker 6: the large scale media, but also social media, and then
- 49:42Speaker 6: the narrative drives it. And you know, unfortunately you can't
- 49:46Speaker 6: as much as I'm a non social media person, you
- 49:50Speaker 6: can't sit back and not engage in it. And that's
- 49:53Speaker 6: where the the kind of opposing sides of the cell
- 49:57Speaker 6: phone thing come in. Is technology, what technology to use?
- 50:01Speaker 6: When is it okay? And so on and so forth.
- 50:03Speaker 6: But I will will say, like we aren't when we
- 50:06Speaker 6: put our social media the Fish podcast that we are
- 50:10Speaker 6: Proof podcast, having you buy JD. When we do those things,
- 50:13Speaker 6: it's not to create a narrative. It's to tell what's
- 50:17Speaker 6: going on. And I bring up the narrative because so
- 50:20Speaker 6: many people might be disgruntled with the school and maybe
- 50:23Speaker 6: some decisions they made or or a bad experience, and
- 50:27Speaker 6: we we understand that more than they may think. But
- 50:30Speaker 6: at the same time, we as an institution can't sit
- 50:33Speaker 6: back and allow narrative that's in place.
- 50:35Speaker 5: That doesn't exist.
- 50:36Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 50:37Speaker 2: Amen, Wow, I want to ask you about back to
- 50:44Speaker 2: to Tom, back to Sweethearts and Heroes. I remember, Matt,
- 50:54Speaker 2: the anxiety that I had leaving middle school and going
- 51:01Speaker 2: into high school. Thank god I had an older brother
- 51:03Speaker 2: who was kind of helping me along with encouragement. But
- 51:10Speaker 2: I remember, I remember very well, this would have been
- 51:17Speaker 2: nineteen eighty four.
- 51:23Speaker 3: What do you do?
- 51:24Speaker 2: What do you do with incoming students who, let's be honest,
- 51:30Speaker 2: are seemingly anyway plucked from one reality and reborn into
- 51:42Speaker 2: another reality very quickly, instantly, And that transition for so
- 51:50Speaker 2: many can.
- 51:51Speaker 3: Be so easy, so easy.
- 51:54Speaker 2: They're excited, they're anxious for it, they look forward to
- 51:56Speaker 2: it they can't wait. And then there's others who are
- 52:02Speaker 2: walking around, maybe with a smile on their face, but
- 52:05Speaker 2: so unsure of themselves their roles that they play. This
- 52:10Speaker 2: is where there's a constant learning curve here, there's a
- 52:19Speaker 2: you're your own planet inside of a high school teching order,
- 52:25Speaker 2: if you will, is kind of learned. This is something
- 52:30Speaker 2: that can be unbelievably intimidating for kids coming out of
- 52:36Speaker 2: middle school. How is Tom helping out with that?
- 52:43Speaker 6: You said so many things that we have so many thoughts,
- 52:45Speaker 6: but Tom has been instrumental in on that. First on
- 52:49Speaker 6: those freshmen orientation days. There's one day in our freshman
- 52:52Speaker 6: orientation over the summer where we just simply tell the students,
- 52:56Speaker 6: these are where the things are, these are the people
- 52:59Speaker 6: who help you with the thing, these are the places
- 53:01Speaker 6: to go to.
- 53:02Speaker 5: Eat the food.
- 53:03Speaker 6: You know, we we we do go through the basics
- 53:05Speaker 6: and allow them, you know, like a like a typical orientation. Sure,
- 53:09Speaker 6: Day two though is you know, we've we've had time there,
- 53:11Speaker 6: we've had pat fish there.
- 53:13Speaker 5: Day two is bully drills.
- 53:15Speaker 6: And again, the key the fundamental that student, that student
- 53:19Speaker 6: mentor that's a little bit older than the students who
- 53:24Speaker 6: are coming in. We connect them with them. They take
- 53:27Speaker 6: a group, we allow them to do circle. They talk
- 53:31Speaker 6: and we tell our our student mentors, you've got to
- 53:34Speaker 6: be very careful about what you say.
- 53:36Speaker 5: However, you can get a little bit real. They need
- 53:39Speaker 5: they need to hear a little bit real.
- 53:40Speaker 6: They need to hear when you show up to late
- 53:42Speaker 6: mister Barry's class, he's going to write you up.
- 53:44Speaker 5: They need to hear those things. So we do circle.
- 53:49Speaker 6: Then we take them apart in those same groups, and
- 53:51Speaker 6: they put together a bully drill skit and then they
- 53:55Speaker 6: come up in front of the stage and actually do
- 53:58Speaker 6: it in front of their peers, and it judged and
- 54:02Speaker 6: by teachers. They give and there's an award and a prize.
- 54:05Speaker 6: It's really a cool thing. And again showing the vulnerability
- 54:11Speaker 6: trying to be you know, even all the adults try
- 54:13Speaker 6: to show some vulnerability at that time. And you know, yeah,
- 54:16Speaker 6: there's so many things going there, but going on there.
- 54:19Speaker 6: And I'll say this, you had that anxiety about moving
- 54:23Speaker 6: from middle school to high school.
- 54:24Speaker 5: I had the same anxiety.
- 54:25Speaker 6: But here you are running a show on the air
- 54:27Speaker 6: in which you talked to, you know, tens of thousands
- 54:30Speaker 6: of people so I do think there is something to
- 54:32Speaker 6: be said for a healthy coping mechanism and a healthy
- 54:37Speaker 6: dose of anxiety.
- 54:41Speaker 2: Do you have a favorite among the sweethearts and heroes staff?
- 54:49Speaker 2: Please don't say Tom.
- 54:51Speaker 5: Well, Tom and I are buddies, like we hit it off.
- 54:54Speaker 5: But Pat's my man.
- 54:56Speaker 6: Pat Fish has become part of our school cult. Sure,
- 55:02Speaker 6: we want him here more. He's just he's just amazing,
- 55:09Speaker 6: And uh, you know, maybe maybe for many different reasons,
- 55:12Speaker 6: but those two have really changed my life and so
- 55:16Speaker 6: many ways about how I think about things and my
- 55:20Speaker 6: perspective on parenting, my perspective on coaching, teaching.
- 55:27Speaker 5: They just really have impacted me.
- 55:28Speaker 6: And and two have them around, it just changes the
- 55:35Speaker 6: aura in the room. And they're both amazing. So yeah,
- 55:38Speaker 6: I know, please don't say Tom. I get it just
- 55:40Speaker 6: makes his head bigger and already is. But you know,
- 55:44Speaker 6: they're tied.
- 55:46Speaker 3: Man. I'll tell you.
- 55:49Speaker 2: I hope that I can come back up to Peru sometime.
- 55:56Speaker 2: I would love for my ten year old little girl
- 56:00Speaker 2: to see and to meet some of your students up there,
- 56:08Speaker 2: like Liam and all of the others. The level of
- 56:14Speaker 2: maturity at seventeen and eighteen years old, just from what
- 56:18Speaker 2: I witnessed in perspective that they were able to verbilize
- 56:27Speaker 2: if I was, if I was half as mature at
- 56:30Speaker 2: seventeen and eighteen as just those kids.
- 56:34Speaker 3: In that room that I met.
- 56:36Speaker 2: I mean, they're all, every single one of them is
- 56:39Speaker 2: geared for success in whatever it is that they decide
- 56:44Speaker 2: they're going to do.
- 56:47Speaker 3: Guaranteed.
- 56:49Speaker 5: Yeah, hope. I wish I was that mature when I
- 56:52Speaker 5: was thirty.
- 56:52Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 56:53Speaker 6: Right, I'm still working on it, and I think the
- 56:56Speaker 6: thing to be said about that. First of all, you
- 56:58Speaker 6: and your daughter are welcome at our school anytime, and
- 57:03Speaker 6: I would also say that with our students. We got
- 57:06Speaker 6: a great compliment from Kensey Whitmarsh what you also met,
- 57:09Speaker 6: who was on on your podcast. She said how this
- 57:12Speaker 6: program gave her the confidence that she lacked in so
- 57:15Speaker 6: many different things, such as articulating herself and from the
- 57:18Speaker 6: other people.
- 57:18Speaker 3: Yeah wow, what's what's the deal? Now?
- 57:25Speaker 2: As principal, you get what two and a half months
- 57:29Speaker 2: off to sit on a beach and think about absolutely
- 57:34Speaker 2: nothing other than when your next beverage is coming and
- 57:40Speaker 2: how much sunscreen you need to apply. Is that all
- 57:43Speaker 2: you're going to be thinking about for the next two
- 57:45Speaker 2: and a half months.
- 57:47Speaker 5: Well, in New York, it's more like two months.
- 57:51Speaker 6: And if I get a couple days to do that,
- 57:53Speaker 6: I'm gonna take advantage. However, I'll be I'll be at
- 57:56Speaker 6: work on Monday.
- 57:57Speaker 2: So what's the day in the life of Matthew Berry?
- 58:01Speaker 2: I mean, what's what's a typical summer day?
- 58:05Speaker 3: Your day? You're there all the time?
- 58:08Speaker 6: Yeah, I but I full disclosure. You know, I'm I'm
- 58:11Speaker 6: gonna work a lesser day in the summer. I Am
- 58:14Speaker 6: going to find the golf course. If I don't, my
- 58:15Speaker 6: brain feels like it wants to pop off my shoulders.
- 58:19Speaker 6: You know, I will find time to to make sure
- 58:23Speaker 6: I exercise and do some of the things that I like. However,
- 58:27Speaker 6: what a typical day looks like at work here is
- 58:29Speaker 6: we meet with our counseling team, myself and my associate
- 58:31Speaker 6: Prince Principal, mister Joha Batten. We meet with the counseling
- 58:34Speaker 6: team and we are mostly scheduling, planning calendars and looking
- 58:42Speaker 6: at programming at our high school and how to you know,
- 58:46Speaker 6: make a schedule. We we build the master schedule. Most days.
- 58:49Speaker 6: It is it is a lot of work. It is
- 58:50Speaker 6: a heavy lift, and we have in. Another reason why
- 58:54Speaker 6: it's a heavy lift is we have a pretty robust
- 58:57Speaker 6: course catalog. We offer AP courses, we offer for advanced
- 59:00Speaker 6: placement courses, we offer college Advanced Place course courses partnered
- 59:05Speaker 6: with Clinton Community College.
- 59:07Speaker 5: So there's a lot of opportunity.
- 59:10Speaker 6: With a lot of opportunity becomes, there becomes a lot
- 59:12Speaker 6: of different pathways, and you have five hundred and forty
- 59:15Speaker 6: seven students to funnel in different pathways and make it
- 59:17Speaker 6: all work with sixty teachers. So that that's what our
- 59:21Speaker 6: summer entails. For the most part. We planned freshman orientation,
- 59:25Speaker 6: first days of school. There might be some leadership conferences
- 59:28Speaker 6: sprinkled in there, but that's you know, that's what the
- 59:32Speaker 6: summer looks like.
- 59:33Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, listen, I want to close out this morning.
- 59:37Speaker 2: I would be remiss if I didn't mention palm are
- 59:46Speaker 2: our thoughts and our prayers going out to this young
- 59:51Speaker 2: lady in Chasey who a student, high school student, lost
- 59:57Speaker 2: her life right in your neck of the woods, right
- 1:00:00Speaker 2: down the road from you, guys, how her school and
- 1:00:06Speaker 2: her fellow students are coping with this, and how that's
- 1:00:11Speaker 2: going to affect their summer and the coming school year.
- 1:00:17Speaker 2: I can't imagine, not just the students, the staff, the
- 1:00:21Speaker 2: whole community. I'm not sure if they've incorporated Sweethearts and heroes,
- 1:00:29Speaker 2: but what do you say they have?
- 1:00:34Speaker 5: And I can't believe. I have no words.
- 1:00:39Speaker 6: I have no words other than empathy. And if the
- 1:00:44Speaker 6: Chazy community is listening out there, you've got friends at
- 1:00:47Speaker 6: Peru and anything you need, we are here. I can't
- 1:00:51Speaker 6: imagine what they're going through the family, and we have
- 1:00:57Speaker 6: some students well connected to Chazy students. They play on
- 1:01:00Speaker 6: common teams and so on and so forth, in particular
- 1:01:03Speaker 6: the student that you mentioned, And.
- 1:01:09Speaker 5: I have no words. I can't imagine my thoughts and prayers.
- 1:01:13Speaker 3: Matt.
- 1:01:13Speaker 2: Thanks so much for coming on with us this morning,
- 1:01:17Speaker 2: for saying everything that you've said, and living everything that
- 1:01:22Speaker 2: you've said this morning, every single day of your life,
- 1:01:27Speaker 2: for what you do, what you bring, and for your
- 1:01:30Speaker 2: partnership with Sweetheart scen Hearoes. You are a fantastic testament
- 1:01:36Speaker 2: to the great impacts that this organization has had just
- 1:01:40Speaker 2: on your school alone.
- 1:01:43Speaker 5: Those are kind words. JD.
- 1:01:45Speaker 6: I'm a work in progress too, but thank you for
- 1:01:47Speaker 6: the kind words and any time I can help you
- 1:01:50Speaker 6: out as well.
- 1:01:50Speaker 5: This is an amazing show.
- 1:01:51Speaker 6: I've been starting to listen to it now that I've
- 1:01:53Speaker 6: been exposed, and I appreciate you having me on the
- 1:01:55Speaker 6: pleasure's mind.
- 1:01:56Speaker 2: Thanks so much, Matt. We'll catch you soon, all right,
- 1:01:59Speaker 2: thank you. Right there is Matt Berry, Principal Peru High School.
- 1:02:05Speaker 3: Listen.
- 1:02:05Speaker 2: We have so much that is on our page on
- 1:02:11Speaker 2: what's going on today. Police are looking for people of
- 1:02:16Speaker 2: interest in that attempt at robbery at Hanaford's. We have
- 1:02:21Speaker 2: that story up there. We have the heavy police presence
- 1:02:25Speaker 2: and that active situation in Rutland City yesterday. Vermont Stay
- 1:02:32Speaker 2: Police investigating another deadly drowning, this one in Virgens. These
- 1:02:39Speaker 2: stories are all up on aired out and a man
- 1:02:44Speaker 2: in critical condition after being hit by a car at
- 1:02:48Speaker 2: North Beach. There is some heavy, heavy stuff that is
- 1:02:52Speaker 2: in the news today. Please go about your day, tread
- 1:02:57Speaker 2: lightly and take good care of one another. Another hot
- 1:03:02Speaker 2: day today, seventy showing about seventy nine right now, we're
- 1:03:07Speaker 2: gonna get up to about eighty five. Checking your neighbors today.
- 1:03:11Speaker 2: Stay well hydrated if you can, of course, I'm talking
- 1:03:15Speaker 2: about water. There are a little lemon juice in there
- 1:03:19Speaker 2: and make you feel better. Thanks Matthew Berry from Peru
- 1:03:24Speaker 2: High School principal this morning, joining us live representing Sweethearts
- 1:03:32Speaker 2: and Heroes, which is where we go every single Wednesday.
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