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- 1:04Speaker 1: you Should Know. Don't don't do it, Dad, What is
- 1:16Speaker 1: this gonna do with the Olympics. It's it's it's equally stirring.
- 1:22Speaker 1: I thought you would have done the Olympic Games song.
- 1:25Speaker 1: That's what I started out doing, and then about two
- 1:27Speaker 1: duns into it, I realized they could not bring it
- 1:30Speaker 1: to mind. So I just wanted the Rocky theme instead. Uh,
- 1:33Speaker 1: you know. The Olympics, well, I don't know if they would.
- 1:36Speaker 1: They still be going on right now. I don't know.
- 1:40Speaker 1: They could have just wrapped up. Actually, it's kind of sad,
- 1:43Speaker 1: you know. It's sad for now. It will be encouraging later.
- 1:47Speaker 1: I think the Tokyo Olympics, whenever they happen, are going
- 1:51Speaker 1: to be a global coming together and celebration of beating coronavirus. Yeah,
- 2:00Speaker 1: totally those ceremonies, yes, but from what I read, the
- 2:05Speaker 1: Olympic flame is still alive and well in Tokyo. What
- 2:08Speaker 1: if the opening ceremonies had little, you know, corona crowns
- 2:13Speaker 1: running around and people smashing them with like big inflatable hammers.
- 2:16Speaker 1: And that's right. They tell the story of the of
- 2:19Speaker 1: the coronavirus pandemic through interpretive dance. It just has like
- 2:23Speaker 1: a big giant bat at the beginning, and exactly it's
- 2:27Speaker 1: the villain. Maybe plenty of villains in that one. That'd
- 2:31Speaker 1: be fun for sure, for sure. Um, so we're obviously
- 2:35Speaker 1: talking Olympic torches. If you hadn't guests or hadn't bothered
- 2:39Speaker 1: to look at the title of this episode, everybody. And
- 2:42Speaker 1: I'm kind of excited about this because it's it's a
- 2:45Speaker 1: just died in the wool s y s K episode
- 2:48Speaker 1: and that it's very niche. It's about one specific thing
- 2:53Speaker 1: that's a part of a much larger thing which we've
- 2:56Speaker 1: not yet done an episode on. Yeah, and the kind
- 2:59Speaker 1: of thing where one day, when you're watching an Olympic
- 3:01Speaker 1: ceremony again you see that flame. Yeah, you'll have that
- 3:06Speaker 1: that insider knowledge. Yeah, you'll think didn't did it, didn't
- 3:09Speaker 1: did do? Goodness. So, um, chuck, I didn't know much
- 3:18Speaker 1: about Olympic torches. I've seen a torch lighting or two
- 3:21Speaker 1: in my time on television only. Um, but there's a
- 3:27Speaker 1: pretty it's pretty interesting actually, the kind of the history
- 3:30Speaker 1: of it and how the things are made. I was
- 3:32Speaker 1: reading over like, um, I guess you'd call it like
- 3:36Speaker 1: a request for proposal PDF from like the London Olympics
- 3:41Speaker 1: Committee from years ago. Um, basically saying hey, this is
- 3:45Speaker 1: a call out all designers who want to try their
- 3:47Speaker 1: hand at at UM designing the London Olympic torch. Here's
- 3:52Speaker 1: all the details you need to know. It was really
- 3:54Speaker 1: fascinating stuff, and we're going to convey that fascination post
- 3:59Speaker 1: taste of that RFC or of just torches. Maybe a
- 4:03Speaker 1: little bit of both actually, so uh, the history of
- 4:07Speaker 1: the torch we're talking. You know, you've got to go
- 4:09Speaker 1: back to Greece if you're going to talk about anything
- 4:11Speaker 1: Olympic history wise, and if you go back far enough,
- 4:14Speaker 1: you're gonna hear a story about Prometheus stealing fire from
- 4:18Speaker 1: Zeus giving that to humans. That's how they say we
- 4:21Speaker 1: got fire. And in order to commemorate that, the Greeks
- 4:27Speaker 1: had these relay races like we all know and love,
- 4:29Speaker 1: except instead of passing a little aluminum baton, they would
- 4:33Speaker 1: pass live fire and flame via torch. Yeah, they would
- 4:38Speaker 1: set a cow on fire, push it to the next person.
- 4:41Speaker 1: I actually the one thing on Prometheus. I was looking
- 4:44Speaker 1: him up. So he was punished by Zeus um for
- 4:48Speaker 1: stealing fire and giving it, being a bad boy for
- 4:52Speaker 1: a naughty monty and Um he had his liver eaten
- 4:57Speaker 1: out by an eagle every day and because he was
- 5:00Speaker 1: an immortal titan. His liver would grow back each night
- 5:03Speaker 1: and then it would be eaten now even by an
- 5:06Speaker 1: eagle again the next day. That's so when I feel
- 5:09Speaker 1: these days and eagles eating your liver every day, yeah,
- 5:13Speaker 1: it is kind of yeah. So, but I mean, the
- 5:18Speaker 1: I guess the the upshot of all this is that
- 5:20Speaker 1: the fire was extremely important to the Greeks and they
- 5:24Speaker 1: showed it off as much. So when they started having
- 5:26Speaker 1: Olympic Games UM back in I guess seven seventies six
- 5:31Speaker 1: BC UM, they wanted to make fire kind of a
- 5:35Speaker 1: prominent part of it, and so they they they celebrated
- 5:40Speaker 1: this theft of fire from Zeus by Prometheus by having
- 5:45Speaker 1: a torch relay where there was basically like um, like
- 5:48Speaker 1: today's baton relay marathons or runs or whatever you call them,
- 5:53Speaker 1: but it was with the torch and whoever reached the
- 5:56Speaker 1: end with their lit torch one that that relay race.
- 5:59Speaker 1: And that's how kind of the Olympic torch was born. Yeah,
- 6:03Speaker 1: And you know, the games back then were a very
- 6:05Speaker 1: big deal and that they would stop war, which is
- 6:10Speaker 1: something they loved to do, just to take part in
- 6:13Speaker 1: these games. And they had these runners. They call them
- 6:15Speaker 1: heralds of Piece that would go all through Greece saying,
- 6:19Speaker 1: you know, truce everybody, right, and they would hope they
- 6:21Speaker 1: don't get speared, and if they made it through, that
- 6:26Speaker 1: truce would remain all during the Olympics until the flame
- 6:30Speaker 1: is extinguished, and then they started spearing again immediately. Yeah.
- 6:33Speaker 1: And the point was so that anybody who wanted to
- 6:36Speaker 1: go watch the Olympics could make it through Greece um
- 6:40Speaker 1: unkilled to go watch and then make it back home unkilled,
- 6:43Speaker 1: hopefully too unkilled. Yea. Uh So, if you go back
- 6:48Speaker 1: to Olympia, there was an altar there dedicated to Hera,
- 6:52Speaker 1: who was the goddess of birthen marriage. And at the
- 6:55Speaker 1: beginning of those first Olympic Games, they would ignite a
- 6:59Speaker 1: called in at Harrah's altar and they would light it
- 7:02Speaker 1: with with a parabolic mirror. They call it a scaffia,
- 7:08Speaker 1: and it's sort of like you know an Archimedes deathray
- 7:10Speaker 1: where you are a magnifying glass or something where you
- 7:12Speaker 1: focus the sun down to that you know, single spot.
- 7:16Speaker 1: If you're a sadistic child, you burn ants that way.
- 7:19Speaker 1: Should never ever do that. It's not nice. No, we
- 7:23Speaker 1: leave the ants alone, leave the ants alone, but they
- 7:25Speaker 1: would that's how they would ignite that initial flame, and
- 7:28Speaker 1: that flame the idea is that it stays lit throughout
- 7:31Speaker 1: the Olympics. Yeah, so this is a pretty cool tradition
- 7:35Speaker 1: if you think about it. I mean, just because the
- 7:37Speaker 1: Olympics have been around for so long today, the modern Olympics,
- 7:41Speaker 1: we kind of take this whole thing for granted. But like,
- 7:44Speaker 1: this is a pretty neat tradition that I guess just
- 7:47Speaker 1: came up out a whole cloth among the Greeks. And
- 7:50Speaker 1: so they were like, we're going to keep this going,
- 7:52Speaker 1: and they did for another thousand years while they did
- 7:54Speaker 1: the Olympics. But then when the Olympics kind of died
- 7:57Speaker 1: out after a millennia, um, no millennium, the torch and
- 8:04Speaker 1: all of that stuff died out with it. Fortunately, the
- 8:07Speaker 1: Greeks were a highly literate society and they wrote a
- 8:10Speaker 1: lot of this stuff down and um it was rediscovered
- 8:15Speaker 1: when the Olympics were revived in the nineteenth century by
- 8:19Speaker 1: a guy named Baron Pierre de Kubertan, and he um
- 8:24Speaker 1: one of the things that he did was to say, um,
- 8:27Speaker 1: I really loved the Olympic Games. I'm not necessarily aware
- 8:31Speaker 1: that there was a torch relay or anything like that. So, um,
- 8:35Speaker 1: we're gonna wait another thirty years or so before we
- 8:39Speaker 1: introduced the torch again. That's right. That came in n
- 8:43Speaker 1: and amstra Dam and there they had the cauldron on
- 8:48Speaker 1: fire on purpose, but there was they weren't relaying that torch. Still.
- 8:53Speaker 1: It took till ninety six in Berlin when Carl Deem
- 8:58Speaker 1: he was the Secretary gener role of the Organizing Committee
- 9:02Speaker 1: of the of the Games there and he said, hey, guys,
- 9:05Speaker 1: we gotta bring this back to to the O g
- 9:08Speaker 1: S and we gotta get that torch relay going, and
- 9:11Speaker 1: we gotta light it in Olympia and get it here
- 9:14Speaker 1: to Berlin. We gotta do it right. Yeah, he definitely
- 9:17Speaker 1: did it right for sure. I mean, not only was
- 9:20Speaker 1: like the whole thing revived, like the idea of the
- 9:23Speaker 1: torch relay, but igniting that torch in Greece and then
- 9:28Speaker 1: make having it make its way all the way to Berlin.
- 9:31Speaker 1: That's pretty cool stuff. And from what I read that
- 9:33Speaker 1: was also right up the Nazis alley and that it
- 9:37Speaker 1: kind of connected the Third Reich to the Great Greek
- 9:41Speaker 1: and Roman Empires. Um of your which they were super
- 9:46Speaker 1: into to try to legitimize themselves. UM, so they went
- 9:50Speaker 1: for it. Fortunately, that first Olympic torch, which we'll talk
- 9:55Speaker 1: more about the torches, um it did not have a
- 9:58Speaker 1: swastika anywhere on it, which is wonderful that they managed
- 10:01Speaker 1: to keep that off of there. I know that's kind
- 10:04Speaker 1: of surprising too, Huh. It is extremely surprising, but I
- 10:07Speaker 1: mean it really is genuinely surprising, and I'm like very pleased.
- 10:11Speaker 1: I was really pleased. I looked at pictures of that
- 10:13Speaker 1: torch with like one eye closed, just trying to find no, no,
- 10:18Speaker 1: just I was afraid I was gonna see it. I
- 10:20Speaker 1: couldn't believe it, and little by little I was like,
- 10:22Speaker 1: it's not there. So I was pleased by that. You
- 10:25Speaker 1: have been my eyes eyes. I just turned into tothe
- 10:30Speaker 1: from the end of Raiders that lost dark and melt.
- 10:33Speaker 1: So h the relay at the Winter Olympics. I think
- 10:38Speaker 1: it took until nineteen fifty two to introduce it at
- 10:42Speaker 1: the Winter Games, and they did not light it in
- 10:45Speaker 1: Olympia that year. They lit it in Norway because that's
- 10:47Speaker 1: where the skiing was born, so they thought they would
- 10:50Speaker 1: honor Norway in that way. But finally, finally, in nineteen
- 10:54Speaker 1: sixty four in Austria at Innsbruck, they said, we gotta
- 10:58Speaker 1: get it together, every addie, we gotta get on the
- 11:01Speaker 1: same page. We gotta go winter and summer and started
- 11:04Speaker 1: out in Olympia and relay that thing to wherever the
- 11:08Speaker 1: heck We're gonna have these games, that's right, And they did.
- 11:11Speaker 1: And I actually looked a little bit into the I
- 11:14Speaker 1: guess the nineteen fifty two games where um they lit
- 11:18Speaker 1: it in Norway. They lited it in the heart of
- 11:22Speaker 1: the home of nineteenth century Norwegian skiing legend Sandra Norheim.
- 11:28Speaker 1: It's either Sandra or Sandr so n d r E.
- 11:32Speaker 1: And he was apparently quite the daredevil skier. I saw
- 11:35Speaker 1: a quote about him that he was fearless and daring.
- 11:38Speaker 1: He ran straight down the most dangerous and challenging hills,
- 11:41Speaker 1: rudely waving his cap, which is made me love that
- 11:46Speaker 1: guy immediately. And I think those games ended up in Helsinki.
- 11:51Speaker 1: But well, there's a little nugget I'll drop in the
- 11:53Speaker 1: next uh segment here after we break. Oh, I can't wait. Well,
- 11:57Speaker 1: I've got another segment or another nugget on that this
- 12:00Speaker 1: there's one other time in history, when the Winter Olympic
- 12:03Speaker 1: torch was lit in the heart of the home of
- 12:06Speaker 1: nineteenth century Norwegian skiing legend Saandr Norheim was in Squa
- 12:11Speaker 1: Valley in nineteen sixty. Because the Olympic committee couldn't get
- 12:14Speaker 1: their act together fast enough to organize the lighting ceremony
- 12:18Speaker 1: in Greece, so Norway stepped in again and said, she's
- 12:22Speaker 1: got a fireplace. We've seen it in action. He he yeah,
- 12:26Speaker 1: party at Sundry's house. I'm sure we're mispronouncing it, probably
- 12:31Speaker 1: so rudely waving his camp. Do you want to take
- 12:35Speaker 1: a break yet, Let's do it, all right, everybody, We're
- 12:37Speaker 1: gonna take a break and we're gonna come back and
- 12:39Speaker 1: guess what we're gonna talk about Olympic torches some more, alright, chuck,
- 13:17Speaker 1: So let's talk about um, those r fps that thrilled
- 13:20Speaker 1: me so fully. Yeah. If you want to be the firm,
- 13:26Speaker 1: the design firm that builds, designs and builds the torch,
- 13:30Speaker 1: you gotta get in there and you've gotta submit your proposal.
- 13:34Speaker 1: You gotta Greece and palms. You gotta gotta tip the
- 13:39Speaker 1: right doorman, if you know what I mean. You have to.
- 13:41Speaker 1: You have to spread many goats around. That's right to
- 13:45Speaker 1: the right people. No, I think. You just submit a
- 13:48Speaker 1: proposal and the Olympic Committee looks at it and they
- 13:51Speaker 1: sort of sit there like at the beginning of planes,
- 13:54Speaker 1: trains and automobiles, for three hours in silence, kind of
- 13:58Speaker 1: twiddling their thumbs, looking, looking, looking, and finally they say,
- 14:02Speaker 1: the bid goes to you. You win the assignment. You've
- 14:05Speaker 1: got to have a torch that looks great, of course,
- 14:09Speaker 1: and you've got to have a torch that works, because
- 14:11Speaker 1: this thing has gotta it's gotta stay lit under any
- 14:14Speaker 1: condition it can be. You can get this thing through
- 14:18Speaker 1: a hurricane, supposedly, and it'll have to stay let. Yeah,
- 14:22Speaker 1: I mean they're pretty serious about this thing not going out. Um,
- 14:26Speaker 1: So they build in redundancies. UM. Oftentimes there's a couple
- 14:30Speaker 1: of different flames working in conjunction to to make this
- 14:33Speaker 1: thing work. Um. But in addition to the actual feel
- 14:40Speaker 1: of it and the look of it, like, you want
- 14:41Speaker 1: to make it so that anybody, anybody basically alive on
- 14:45Speaker 1: Earth could carry it. So it's gotta be lightweight typically
- 14:48Speaker 1: UM I saw usually about a pound or so. UM.
- 14:51Speaker 1: It has to all most of the ones in that RFP,
- 14:57Speaker 1: the Golden RFP for from the London to Olympics. It
- 15:00Speaker 1: had a list. Actually, you gotta look this up, everybody
- 15:04Speaker 1: I cannot remember. Just search um London Olympic Torch Proposal
- 15:10Speaker 1: Design Proposal. I'll bet that would bring up this PDA anyway,
- 15:14Speaker 1: some sleepy corner of the internet worse. Yeah, I found it,
- 15:17Speaker 1: and I'm proud as punch about that. But um, I
- 15:20Speaker 1: had a list of like some of the specs of
- 15:23Speaker 1: past torches, and most of them seem to be around
- 15:27Speaker 1: one to two pounds. This article from How Stuff Works
- 15:30Speaker 1: is three to four, but I saw one to two pounds.
- 15:33Speaker 1: Maybe that's without being fully loaded with fuel. Sure, And hey,
- 15:38Speaker 1: if you can carry something this two pounds, you can
- 15:40Speaker 1: probably put two hands on it and manage the four pounds,
- 15:44Speaker 1: although they like you to hold it with one one hand. Yeah,
- 15:48Speaker 1: just because it looks cooler. Uh. These these modern torches
- 15:52Speaker 1: that we're looking at, we're sort of originated at those
- 15:55Speaker 1: Squall of Valley games in nineteen sixty when a Disney
- 15:57Speaker 1: artist named John Hinch designed this, you know, sort of
- 16:03Speaker 1: the first modern torch that everyone else said, yeah, that's
- 16:05Speaker 1: a good idea. That's what we should do. We should
- 16:07Speaker 1: have fuel inside of it, and we should have some
- 16:11Speaker 1: backup flame inside of it. And they kind of function
- 16:15Speaker 1: like a like a camp stove. Sure, a fancy camp
- 16:19Speaker 1: stove basically is what it is. And then and we'll
- 16:21Speaker 1: get into the fuels and stuff. But in that there
- 16:23Speaker 1: is a liquid fuel that becomes a gas. Uh you know,
- 16:27Speaker 1: it's under pressure and then it comes out these tiny
- 16:28Speaker 1: little holes just like a camp stover, like a Colman lantern. Yeah,
- 16:32Speaker 1: and I didn't know this. This is pretty cool. Um.
- 16:35Speaker 1: There are two two things that have to be designed
- 16:37Speaker 1: into it, well, a couple of things that have to
- 16:39Speaker 1: be designed into it. UM. In addition to being um
- 16:44Speaker 1: easy to carry by, basically anybody has to be very light,
- 16:47Speaker 1: has to be aerodynamic. Ergonomic, I think is another. If
- 16:51Speaker 1: you threw that word around in your bid, they would
- 16:53Speaker 1: probably be like, oh, this guy knows what he's talking about. UM.
- 16:57Speaker 1: But you you also have to at least as far
- 17:00Speaker 1: as London was concerned. But I got the impression that
- 17:02Speaker 1: this was a standard thing that you have to design
- 17:07Speaker 1: in a way to permanently deactivate it after it's one
- 17:10Speaker 1: time use, so that it can never be lit again.
- 17:13Speaker 1: Which I thought was kind of cool. I bet you
- 17:15Speaker 1: could hack that though. Funny enough, I found another weird
- 17:19Speaker 1: corner of the Internet researching this one at Olympic Torch
- 17:23Speaker 1: Repair dot Com, which is possibly the most niche retail
- 17:28Speaker 1: website I've ever seen in my life. They sell one
- 17:32Speaker 1: part and it is a part design to fix the
- 17:37Speaker 1: Atlanta Olympic torch. And they don't use the words that
- 17:41Speaker 1: you will be lit again, But just from the pictures,
- 17:44Speaker 1: from the text, from everything that I'm seeing, I believe
- 17:47Speaker 1: this is a rogue website dedicated to making Atlanta Olympic
- 17:53Speaker 1: torches burn again after they've been purposefully disabled. Well, and
- 17:57Speaker 1: you might be laughing saying how much could this person
- 18:01Speaker 1: be making off this? But here's another little fun fact.
- 18:06Speaker 1: There are anywhere from ten to fifteen thousand of these
- 18:09Speaker 1: torches that are built. Uh if you'll notice when you
- 18:12Speaker 1: see these, you know, and they don't cover all of
- 18:15Speaker 1: this thing, or maybe they do in some dark corner
- 18:18Speaker 1: of the Internet. I'm sure somebody does cover might end
- 18:21Speaker 1: up doing it in the future as a hobby. Covers
- 18:24Speaker 1: each and every passing of the torch, but they don't
- 18:26Speaker 1: actually pass the torch. They light the other person's torch
- 18:30Speaker 1: and then they run away, and then you never the
- 18:32Speaker 1: camera doesn't hang on the person who just you know,
- 18:35Speaker 1: standing there with their torch, and you think, what happens
- 18:38Speaker 1: to those things? Well, you're allowed to buy it if
- 18:41Speaker 1: you want. The one from Japan this year was gonna
- 18:44Speaker 1: cost about six hundred, six hundred fifty bucks American. That's
- 18:49Speaker 1: a steel. Have you seen that thing? Yeah, it's good looking.
- 18:52Speaker 1: They're beautiful. Have you seen the overhead shot where it
- 18:55Speaker 1: looks like a cherry blossom. It's wonderful too. And that
- 18:59Speaker 1: is a price that's basically at cost. Because the a
- 19:02Speaker 1: the IOC nor the AOC can profit from the sale
- 19:08Speaker 1: of Olympic torches. That is not a side hustle for her. No,
- 19:12Speaker 1: so don't believe what the right says. She can't actually
- 19:16Speaker 1: make any money off of Olympic torchi. So um, that's
- 19:21Speaker 1: basically cost. And it turns out there's quite an aftermarket
- 19:24Speaker 1: for these things too. I think they're right now too,
- 19:28Speaker 1: complete collections for individuals in the world and another guy
- 19:32Speaker 1: that's close, and they cost anywhere from fifteen hundred four
- 19:36Speaker 1: thousand for the newer ones, fifteen to seventy grand for
- 19:40Speaker 1: older ones. And I think the pricest ever was that
- 19:44Speaker 1: nineteen fifty two Helsinki one eight hundred and eighty thousand
- 19:48Speaker 1: dollars because they only made twenty two of them, so
- 19:51Speaker 1: obviously rarity is is going to drive that price up.
- 19:55Speaker 1: The highest I saw was less than that is two
- 19:58Speaker 1: fifteen thousand for the ninet in sixties Squaw Valley one
- 20:02Speaker 1: that Disney designer made um and I think I saw
- 20:05Speaker 1: like they made a hundred of them, so you'd have
- 20:07Speaker 1: to have some coin to to have a complete collection.
- 20:10Speaker 1: And that's a very niche collection as well. I mean,
- 20:16Speaker 1: and I have to say, like a lot of them,
- 20:18Speaker 1: you just they're not very pleasing to the eye. There's
- 20:22Speaker 1: some ug Olympic torches out there. I mean Mexico City is.
- 20:28Speaker 1: If it's not a hand whisk, I don't know what
- 20:31Speaker 1: it is. Well it is and it was cool it
- 20:36Speaker 1: actually according to the two thousand twelve London Olympics UH
- 20:40Speaker 1: Torch RFP PDF, that is the longest I'm making t
- 20:47Speaker 1: shirts out of different pages. That is the longest burning
- 20:51Speaker 1: Olympic torch in the history of Olympic torches. Most of
- 20:54Speaker 1: these things are designed to burn ten or fifteen minutes
- 20:57Speaker 1: which is alarming if you're like, well, wait a minute,
- 20:59Speaker 1: we want the Olympic flame to burn out. But as
- 21:02Speaker 1: we'll see, these relays are actually super short. Um, this one,
- 21:06Speaker 1: the Mexico City torch, could burn up the thirty minutes. Dude.
- 21:11Speaker 1: I like this torch, the whisk. I think it looks great.
- 21:16Speaker 1: I think it looks like a whiskey. I don't think
- 21:17Speaker 1: it looks bad. I just think it looks like a
- 21:19Speaker 1: kitchen whisk and I can't think of anything else but
- 21:22Speaker 1: whipping cream when I look at it. I'm looking at
- 21:25Speaker 1: two different torches though, for Mexico, one looks like a
- 21:29Speaker 1: whisk and one looks like sort of like an Aztec club.
- 21:34Speaker 1: So there's two torches. Well, I don't know. I'm gonna
- 21:37Speaker 1: have to I'm gonna have to get to the bottom
- 21:39Speaker 1: of this because I'm seeing let me know what you find,
- 21:42Speaker 1: because I'm gonna have to add it to my niche
- 21:43Speaker 1: website about Olympic torches. Oh goodness, so um, I don't
- 21:50Speaker 1: remember where we were going with that. Oh, you're talking
- 21:52Speaker 1: about the Tokyo one where you can buy it. So
- 21:54Speaker 1: when you when you have the torch, when your torch
- 21:57Speaker 1: relay is done. It's taken from you this able, put
- 22:00Speaker 1: in its packaging and then presented to you. If you've
- 22:03Speaker 1: vindicated you want to buy it, and if not, they
- 22:05Speaker 1: throw it into the nearest river. But I think that's
- 22:09Speaker 1: pretty cool that you can you get to buy it
- 22:11Speaker 1: if you want to, and it's disabled so you can
- 22:14Speaker 1: never let it again unless you know the guy who
- 22:16Speaker 1: runs Olympic Torch Repair. But one of the other things
- 22:19Speaker 1: too that they they has become kind of a thing,
- 22:22Speaker 1: especially in the last like thirty thirty years, maybe more
- 22:26Speaker 1: is sustainability built into these and you want to it's
- 22:31Speaker 1: not a requirement, but I get the impression that's exactly
- 22:35Speaker 1: where I got it from, that you you're probably doing
- 22:38Speaker 1: nothing but helping your bid if you have figured out
- 22:42Speaker 1: some sort of sustainable angle to it. Like the Tokyo torch,
- 22:47Speaker 1: which again it's just gorgeous rose gold looking, but it's
- 22:50Speaker 1: actually aluminum, and the aluminum is made from former temporary
- 22:56Speaker 1: housing that was used after the Fukushi a disaster to
- 23:01Speaker 1: how some of the residents who have been displaced the
- 23:04Speaker 1: strings there. Yeah, yes, I'm sure the person who designed
- 23:08Speaker 1: that was like, I got it. I got the thing
- 23:09Speaker 1: that's going to get we're gonna win this bid with
- 23:12Speaker 1: this and is it true now? But they don't know
- 23:14Speaker 1: I made no I shoot down airplanes in my spare time.
- 23:18Speaker 1: I have a bunch of them in my backyard. Now
- 23:20Speaker 1: I know what to do with I like to be
- 23:22Speaker 1: from the top better. Yeah, it's Gord's on the side. Yes.
- 23:26Speaker 1: And one of the things I mean we talked about
- 23:28Speaker 1: flames and then being redundant um the the you don't
- 23:33Speaker 1: want that flame to go out. So one of the
- 23:36Speaker 1: things that that that torch has is from each of
- 23:40Speaker 1: those rounded petals that looks like the petal of a
- 23:43Speaker 1: cherry blossom flower, provides a flame and they all come
- 23:47Speaker 1: together to to build one big flame. But because you
- 23:51Speaker 1: have five different smaller flames, that big flame, even if
- 23:54Speaker 1: it flickers or wins, it's never going to go out.
- 23:56Speaker 1: You've got five redundancies exactly. So the fuel they've used
- 24:01Speaker 1: a bunch of things over the ears, because you want
- 24:03Speaker 1: something to burn bright, something that you can see during
- 24:07Speaker 1: the daytime. You want something that's not dangerous. But there
- 24:11Speaker 1: have been some dangerous torches over the years. They they've
- 24:13Speaker 1: used gunpowder, they've used olive oil, they used to use
- 24:17Speaker 1: something called hexamine, which is formaldehyde and pneumonia can't be
- 24:21Speaker 1: safe and uh, naphthaline. So in our soap episode, Chuck,
- 24:27Speaker 1: one of the things I didn't get to talk about
- 24:29Speaker 1: was that Fell's naptha laundry soap. Yeah you ever seen
- 24:33Speaker 1: that stuff? I don't think. So it's like this hips
- 24:36Speaker 1: terrific laundry soap that's old timey that they still make.
- 24:39Speaker 1: But naptha is benzene and it's actually really really bad
- 24:45Speaker 1: for you. So they're basically burning benzene in this stuff,
- 24:48Speaker 1: and you can all sorts of bad things can happen,
- 24:50Speaker 1: like your red blood cells can rupture. Yeah, that's no good.
- 24:53Speaker 1: You can also have nasty smoke, like in the case
- 24:56Speaker 1: of Atlanta's was pretty smoky. Uh in Fi D six,
- 25:00Speaker 1: they had magnesium and aluminum uh lighting the flame, and
- 25:04Speaker 1: there were chunks of flame that fell off. So you
- 25:08Speaker 1: don't want that either. You want something that burns clean,
- 25:11Speaker 1: that looks good. I think now they use propane and butane,
- 25:15Speaker 1: which makes a lot of sense. Uh. You know that's
- 25:17Speaker 1: what you use in lighters and gas grills. Uh. And
- 25:22Speaker 1: you know, like I said, it works like a little
- 25:24Speaker 1: like a little camp stove. You've got this fuel being
- 25:26Speaker 1: pushed through a valve. There's a fuel reservoir, and then
- 25:29Speaker 1: you have all these little tiny openings just like a
- 25:32Speaker 1: camp camp stove will and once it squeezes through there,
- 25:35Speaker 1: it builds up that pressure. Then finally, once it's out
- 25:38Speaker 1: the other side, that pressure drops, turns into a gas
- 25:41Speaker 1: and it's ready to burn at a consistent rate. Right.
- 25:46Speaker 1: And again there's a couple of flames, typically one that
- 25:48Speaker 1: burns really hot but small that is almost like a
- 25:51Speaker 1: pilot light for the bigger ones in that there's five
- 25:55Speaker 1: of those things. And then you've got the bigger, brighter
- 25:58Speaker 1: flame that big and bold and just says in your face, world,
- 26:04Speaker 1: I'm the Olympic flame. Um. But it's much less stable.
- 26:08Speaker 1: It flickers a lot more in the wind, but it's
- 26:09Speaker 1: not going to go out because you get those pilot lights.
- 26:12Speaker 1: It's sort of like the understudy to the Broadway star. Yeah,
- 26:15Speaker 1: but the understudies really the one who's giving the star
- 26:19Speaker 1: all of the suggestions and notes that are making the
- 26:22Speaker 1: star a star. And uh, we'll get to the route
- 26:26Speaker 1: here in a few minutes. But this thing, you know,
- 26:28Speaker 1: goes a long way, and sometimes even across oceans, and
- 26:32Speaker 1: sometimes underwater, which is what happened in two thousand when
- 26:36Speaker 1: it went across the Great Barrier Reef very symbolically, and
- 26:40Speaker 1: they had a flare inside this thing to keep the
- 26:43Speaker 1: flame burning in the water, which is pretty amazing. Yeah.
- 26:48Speaker 1: Did you see video of that? Yeah? I mean I
- 26:51Speaker 1: saw it live. Oh you did, huh. I'm an Olympics guy.
- 26:56Speaker 1: I love that stuff. That's cool. I didn't see that.
- 26:58Speaker 1: I like the Olympics too. I don't know if i'd
- 27:00Speaker 1: see him an Olympics guy. Okay, but you're an Olympic
- 27:05Speaker 1: torch RF guy. Yeah, thank you. That's way more at
- 27:08Speaker 1: my all, yeah, than than running around. Should we take
- 27:11Speaker 1: another break? Yeah, I think we've reached break time if
- 27:14Speaker 1: you ask me. All Right, we'll come back and we'll
- 27:15Speaker 1: talk about lighting this thing and then and the big
- 27:18Speaker 1: relay right after this. All right, Chuck, So we're back
- 27:55Speaker 1: to talk about the actual lighting of this thing. And
- 27:57Speaker 1: if you guys will remember, we talked about lighting the
- 28:00Speaker 1: torch using a para parabolic mirror to concentrate the sun's
- 28:05Speaker 1: raise all the way back in the seven seventies Specie Well,
- 28:10Speaker 1: when the Olympic organizers of the modern Olympics started bringing
- 28:15Speaker 1: the torch back. I guess what was his name, Carl Bernheim.
- 28:19Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. I think he was so the German guy
- 28:23Speaker 1: from the Olympics. I believe he had this like that's
- 28:28Speaker 1: what he went right to it. He was also a
- 28:30Speaker 1: sports historian, by the way, which gives away why he
- 28:32Speaker 1: was so so privy to all this stuff. But he um.
- 28:36Speaker 1: I guess since that time, every time we've lit a
- 28:39Speaker 1: torch from Olympia, they have used a parabolic mirror to
- 28:43Speaker 1: concentrate the sun's raise and they stick a torch in
- 28:45Speaker 1: there and it catches flame, and then there you have
- 28:48Speaker 1: the official Olympic flame that will make its way from
- 28:53Speaker 1: Olympia to the host city somehow, some way. Yeah, they
- 28:57Speaker 1: make a big show of it. They have an actor
- 29:00Speaker 1: dressed as a ceremonial priestess in these robes and like
- 29:05Speaker 1: the ancient Greeks, and they you know, they acted out
- 29:07Speaker 1: and uh the uh for the winner games, they actually
- 29:12Speaker 1: the relay begins at the monument to the guy who
- 29:16Speaker 1: spoke up earlier, Pierre de uh Cobertine, who founded those
- 29:20Speaker 1: first games. But the Summer Games u a k a.
- 29:25Speaker 1: The other games are carried to a firepot at that
- 29:29Speaker 1: altar of was it Harra, Yeah, Harry Zeus's wife, sister
- 29:35Speaker 1: sister wife, and then the relay begins and you know
- 29:40Speaker 1: how this works out is determined at every Olympics. The
- 29:44Speaker 1: organizing committee determines the route. Uh, there's always some silly
- 29:49Speaker 1: Olympic theme. It's not always silly. Sometimes it's nice. But
- 29:53Speaker 1: I'm not a big theme guy. No, you didn't like
- 29:56Speaker 1: the theme of the Olympics. What's it? I think you're
- 29:59Speaker 1: gonna bring that up. That was the mascot. That wasn't
- 30:01Speaker 1: the theme. Oh, I thought it was both. I think
- 30:03Speaker 1: the theme was red knickery. It was the theme was
- 30:09Speaker 1: get or Done. I was looking online today because remember
- 30:12Speaker 1: they had those have talked about them before, those stainless
- 30:14Speaker 1: steel pickup trucks in Atlanta, and I was like, where
- 30:17Speaker 1: are those things now? And I could find nary any
- 30:20Speaker 1: evidence that they ever existed. So I don't know if
- 30:22Speaker 1: they scrub the internet, but uh, I know you're better
- 30:26Speaker 1: at the dark corners of the of the web. So
- 30:28Speaker 1: maybe maybe we'll go in together and buy one. That
- 30:31Speaker 1: would be pretty awesome actually, So you know, like I said,
- 30:35Speaker 1: the route is determined by the committee. Um, sometimes it
- 30:39Speaker 1: goes from country to country on a plane. Sometimes it's
- 30:42Speaker 1: a train. There have been dog sleds, there's been motorcycles
- 30:46Speaker 1: and horseback And if you are a person who is
- 30:51Speaker 1: tasked with carrying this thing, like I think you have
- 30:55Speaker 1: to be able to go at least four hundred thirty
- 30:57Speaker 1: seven yards four d got to be at least fourteen
- 31:01Speaker 1: years old. I would like to throw our name in
- 31:03Speaker 1: the hat quite frankly for a future Olympic Games. That'd
- 31:07Speaker 1: be fine. I'd be willing to carry it with you.
- 31:08Speaker 1: We could put a hand on it. Yeah, But um,
- 31:13Speaker 1: you're you know, you're you've done something for the community,
- 31:16Speaker 1: or you're a notable human being, or or you or
- 31:20Speaker 1: you work for the company who's sponsoring the Olympics, right right,
- 31:24Speaker 1: you're a you're a sea level executive, which is absolutely true.
- 31:28Speaker 1: We're not kidding, no, no, And I mean like there's
- 31:30Speaker 1: sometimes hundreds, sometimes thousands of people who are involved in
- 31:35Speaker 1: this because I mean if if basically you're running, if
- 31:38Speaker 1: you're running like basically a football field and a half
- 31:44Speaker 1: and you're going you're bringing you're taking this thing kilometers, right,
- 31:49Speaker 1: You're like you need a lot of people to do that.
- 31:51Speaker 1: So there's a lot of people involved in the Olympic relay.
- 31:54Speaker 1: So there's a lot of people who you know, yeah,
- 31:56Speaker 1: I just kind of ended up there because they you know,
- 32:00Speaker 1: they were a sponsor. But there's also interesting people too.
- 32:03Speaker 1: There was in Um. Sometimes they're not even people, Buddy.
- 32:06Speaker 1: I was looking at the Pieong Chang two thousand and
- 32:09Speaker 1: eighteen Winter Olympics relay and there was a robot named
- 32:13Speaker 1: Hubo who was a torch bearer. And Hubo not only
- 32:18Speaker 1: carried the torch, Hubo drove the torch and like basically
- 32:22Speaker 1: a Doom Buggy with a human being in the passenger seat,
- 32:26Speaker 1: and then got out, approached a brick wall, almost fell over,
- 32:31Speaker 1: was righted by some other humans, cut through the brick
- 32:34Speaker 1: wall and then passed the torch through the whole. Hubo
- 32:37Speaker 1: had cut into the brick wall. That's the level of
- 32:40Speaker 1: zany nous that can be achieved with the with the
- 32:42Speaker 1: torch relay, because there's so many people involved. Can you
- 32:45Speaker 1: imagine being that guy? It's like, did you see the
- 32:48Speaker 1: Olympics the other name the torch relay? Oh did you
- 32:50Speaker 1: carry the torch? No? I wrote in the Doom Buggy
- 32:52Speaker 1: of the robot right just looking very nervous. That was
- 32:57Speaker 1: a fail safe, you know, in case he went nuts.
- 33:00Speaker 1: That's pretty great. They also did um paragliding, the paragliding
- 33:06Speaker 1: the torch from one place to another. UM. It's pretty cool.
- 33:11Speaker 1: Like people, they try to outdo each other. Each host
- 33:14Speaker 1: city tries to outdo the last. UM. I think Montreal
- 33:19Speaker 1: is the one that has has everybody beat. Oh yeah,
- 33:24Speaker 1: oh well yeah, let me go on. So in Montreal
- 33:28Speaker 1: hosted the Olympics and they figured out how to take
- 33:32Speaker 1: the flame transmit it into a radio signal. I'm still
- 33:39Speaker 1: not sure how they did this, shot that signal up
- 33:42Speaker 1: to a satellite and then beam the signal back down
- 33:44Speaker 1: from satellite to Canada where it lit another cauldron, another torch.
- 33:53Speaker 1: So they basically transferred the the energy from the Olympic flame,
- 33:58Speaker 1: shot it into space, and then transferred it back to
- 34:01Speaker 1: Earth and converted it back into flame. No one's ever
- 34:04Speaker 1: going to beat that. I think that's cute that you
- 34:06Speaker 1: bought that. Oh well, okay, I guess yeah. I hadn't
- 34:13Speaker 1: really thought that. You didn't see the guy he was
- 34:15Speaker 1: in the buggy. He was also behind there punching the button.
- 34:19Speaker 1: The button. It is a thing for sure, and now,
- 34:22Speaker 1: you hadn't really thought about that. So if you do
- 34:24Speaker 1: notice these people that are actually on the street carrying
- 34:27Speaker 1: these things, you'll notice they have security. There's actually a
- 34:30Speaker 1: medical team, there's plenty of media, they have extra torches
- 34:34Speaker 1: on hand because they don't want that thing to go
- 34:35Speaker 1: out on camera. And eventually it's gonna make its way
- 34:39Speaker 1: to the Olympic Stadium where the big secret. You know,
- 34:43Speaker 1: they keep it a big secret. Now who that final
- 34:45Speaker 1: individual is going to be. Um very much kept a
- 34:49Speaker 1: lid on because you don't want that getting out because
- 34:51Speaker 1: that's the big moment, and that's always a big deal.
- 34:55Speaker 1: Whoever they choose for that final person to light the cauldron.
- 34:59Speaker 1: And there have been a lot of big, big moments
- 35:01Speaker 1: throughout the years, and I think Atlanta's when they came
- 35:04Speaker 1: in there, Janet Evans, she didn't even know who she
- 35:06Speaker 1: was going to hand it to and outcomes Mohammed Ali
- 35:10Speaker 1: and that was really one of the great Olympic moments.
- 35:13Speaker 1: I've watched it again today and I was like, why
- 35:15Speaker 1: am I crying with me? It is amazing to hear
- 35:19Speaker 1: that crowd when they figure out who it is at first,
- 35:22Speaker 1: and apparently no one, no one knew, like, um, uh,
- 35:26Speaker 1: maybe it was cost Us who was doing the Probably
- 35:29Speaker 1: cost Us, Yeah, I think it was because he hadn't
- 35:31Speaker 1: gotten Pink Eye that year, so he was still good
- 35:34Speaker 1: to get to be the commentator. Um, it was cost
- 35:37Speaker 1: Us in somebody else and they they didn't know apparently. Um.
- 35:41Speaker 1: And I guess Dick eber Saul, who was a longtime
- 35:45Speaker 1: NBC executive, Um, have you read that book Live from
- 35:49Speaker 1: New York about Saturday Night Live? But I knew that
- 35:52Speaker 1: he was. He took over for a little while. Yeah,
- 35:54Speaker 1: he he figures big in there. And I can't remember
- 35:56Speaker 1: if he did a good job or a bad job,
- 35:58Speaker 1: but I have a good impression of him, so I
- 36:00Speaker 1: think he did get But anyway, um, he figures big
- 36:03Speaker 1: into that book. And that book is definitely worth reading.
- 36:05Speaker 1: It like goes up to maybe the mid to late eighties,
- 36:09Speaker 1: from the start to the mid to late eighties, and
- 36:10Speaker 1: it's all just like behind the scenes interviews and gossip
- 36:13Speaker 1: and oral history of of the whole thing is really interesting.
- 36:16Speaker 1: But anyway, Dick Ebersol lobbied really hard to get Mohammed
- 36:22Speaker 1: Ali to be the guy because it was originally going
- 36:24Speaker 1: to be a vander Holy Field and holy Field actually
- 36:27Speaker 1: ran it for about ten ft and then handed it
- 36:31Speaker 1: off to Janet Evans. Yeah, and then Janet Evans took
- 36:35Speaker 1: it up this ramp and then all of a sudden
- 36:37Speaker 1: it looks like Janet Evans is going to be the
- 36:38Speaker 1: one to light it, and then all of a sudden,
- 36:40Speaker 1: at the top of the ramp, Mohammed Ali pops out
- 36:42Speaker 1: and the face and the crowd just goes nothing like yeah,
- 36:49Speaker 1: especially when he when he has it lit and he
- 36:52Speaker 1: like holds it aloft and his hand is trembling from
- 36:54Speaker 1: with Parkinson's trembler tremors, and um, they just are going bonkers.
- 37:00Speaker 1: Was It's just like you said, It's probably the all
- 37:03Speaker 1: time great Olympic moment as far as America is concerned.
- 37:07Speaker 1: A few other highlights in Barcelona ninety two, Who can
- 37:10Speaker 1: forget Paralympic archer Antonio Ribolo when he shot that fiery
- 37:16Speaker 1: arrow that was pretty sweet. I can't believe he made
- 37:19Speaker 1: it too like that, just the that the what they
- 37:22Speaker 1: gambled on that, you know, he could have missed, it
- 37:24Speaker 1: could have gone out and it didn't, and he made
- 37:26Speaker 1: it and it lit the cauldron. It's just beautiful. Well,
- 37:29Speaker 1: it actually didn't like the cauldron, but that was the
- 37:33Speaker 1: please stop dashing the Olympic torch in ignition button because
- 37:38Speaker 1: he can't take that chance. Uh. You know, I'll tell
- 37:41Speaker 1: you what, chuck. When I form my weird niche little
- 37:44Speaker 1: Olympic Torch website, it's going to be all fantasy. None
- 37:48Speaker 1: of this behind the scenes trickery, grittiness. It's just going
- 37:53Speaker 1: to be face value stuff. Sixty four Tokyo. When they
- 37:58Speaker 1: hosted their first game, they had the Hiroshima Baby a
- 38:04Speaker 1: K A. H. John Nori Sakai was born on August
- 38:10Speaker 1: the day Americans dropped the nuclear bomb on Hiroshima. He
- 38:14Speaker 1: was nineteen years old at the time he lit that thing.
- 38:17Speaker 1: What about a soul and those cooked doves? That was rough, man,
- 38:22Speaker 1: I did. I wasn't aware of that until we were
- 38:24Speaker 1: researching this, were you. I don't remember that. I mean
- 38:28Speaker 1: I certainly watched the games that year, but I was
- 38:30Speaker 1: probably too young to understand that those doves did not
- 38:33Speaker 1: make it out alive. Dude, it's yeah. I put my
- 38:36Speaker 1: hand in my mouth, like, oh my god, I can't
- 38:37Speaker 1: believe what I just saw. That was awful. But they
- 38:40Speaker 1: so they released the doves as part of the opening
- 38:42Speaker 1: ceremony and then some of the doves gathered in the
- 38:46Speaker 1: cauldron and it's not funny. I don't know why I'm laughing. No,
- 38:50Speaker 1: it's it's it's said, well, there's a certain element to
- 38:53Speaker 1: it that's funny, but in the worst way, you know
- 38:55Speaker 1: what I mean. And the three people whose job it
- 38:59Speaker 1: was to like the Olympic cauld room at their torches,
- 39:02Speaker 1: they did, and some of the birds didn't fly away,
- 39:05Speaker 1: and you can see some of them sort of dancing
- 39:07Speaker 1: in the flame. It's it's that part's awful, but that
- 39:10Speaker 1: the whole idea of the thing. Is this so preposterous
- 39:14Speaker 1: and its contrary to what they're trying to do with
- 39:16Speaker 1: the Olympic spirit that they sacrifice some doves. Yeah, that
- 39:22Speaker 1: was tough to watch. So then, um, there's one more.
- 39:26Speaker 1: There's a bunch worth mentioning, but it's worth watching again.
- 39:31Speaker 1: Is uh lilahammer where um stein grubin uh ski jumper
- 39:39Speaker 1: skis down a ski jump seventy which is quite a
- 39:43Speaker 1: few feet more than seventy. Well it's the exact same
- 39:47Speaker 1: as seventy meters but in feet. Um just going some
- 39:51Speaker 1: ridiculous speed with the torch that won't go out, and like,
- 39:56Speaker 1: lands this jump just beautifully. That was a little nerve
- 39:58Speaker 1: wracking even knowing that it didn't go out. When I
- 40:01Speaker 1: was watching it the other day, I was like, don't
- 40:03Speaker 1: go out, don't go out, right, yeah, because it's it
- 40:06Speaker 1: looks like it could have at any moment, but no,
- 40:08Speaker 1: it stayed, stayed straight. And then let's see, there's a
- 40:11Speaker 1: couple more mentioning two thousand and two thousand fourteen the
- 40:15Speaker 1: flame went to space, which is pretty cool. Let's not
- 40:18Speaker 1: forget nineteen seventy six in Montreal and then um, it
- 40:22Speaker 1: was on the concorde. Once it flew on the concorde,
- 40:25Speaker 1: and I believe for the Barcelona Games. Amazing. So let's
- 40:32Speaker 1: that for the Olympic torch everybody. We'll talk more about
- 40:34Speaker 1: the Olympics someday when we do an episode on the Olympics.
- 40:38Speaker 1: But in the meantime, I hope you enjoyed this. Uh
- 40:41Speaker 1: And since I said that it's time for a listener, man,
- 40:46Speaker 1: I'm gonna call this chuck check your privilege. Did you
- 40:49Speaker 1: see this one? Yeah? Hey, guys, this is in reference
- 40:53Speaker 1: to your WASP podcast. Great information. I love the podcast,
- 40:57Speaker 1: but at the end it was almost amusing that you
- 40:59Speaker 1: assume people have the means to hire a professional to
- 41:03Speaker 1: remove a wasp nest from their property. I said, almost
- 41:07Speaker 1: almost amusing. Equally amusing, which I guess is equally almost amusing,
- 41:12Speaker 1: is the idea of fashioning a kind of trap. I
- 41:15Speaker 1: don't remember that part. Did you say that? I don't know.
- 41:19Speaker 1: I say a lot of things risk being stung dozens
- 41:23Speaker 1: of times for what. Uh, guys, I don't think you
- 41:27Speaker 1: should be shoving peta style in quotes, non lethal rhetoric
- 41:32Speaker 1: down people's throats. Nay saying the killing of vermin and pest,
- 41:36Speaker 1: especially when your solutions don't accommodate outside the middle class.
- 41:41Speaker 1: Pretty sure there are poverty stricken individuals that love to
- 41:43Speaker 1: learn and love this podcast as well. You very well
- 41:47Speaker 1: could be unintentionally alienating them into thinking that they are
- 41:50Speaker 1: being inhumane, when in fact they have no choice. Think
- 41:54Speaker 1: bigger picture, Chuck. That is from James Huggins. I mean
- 42:00Speaker 1: to do that, James, I'm sorry. I I think the
- 42:04Speaker 1: overarching message was leave it alone, don't do anything to it,
- 42:08Speaker 1: don't spend money. I've never paid money to have a
- 42:10Speaker 1: waspice removed. Do you do you know, Chuck? I have
- 42:13Speaker 1: to tell you. Just yesterday, I was challenged to live
- 42:17Speaker 1: up to my own words. And there was a wasp
- 42:20Speaker 1: in our screen porch and I had a fly swatter
- 42:25Speaker 1: and was trying to just lightly move it out. I
- 42:27Speaker 1: was like, I'm not gonna kill you. I'm not going
- 42:29Speaker 1: to kill you. What that thing is? He wouldn't Number one,
- 42:32Speaker 1: he wouldn't come after me. So we proved that wasps
- 42:35Speaker 1: are not necessarily super aggressive like they have um a
- 42:39Speaker 1: reputation for. But then he wouldn't. He also wouldn't make
- 42:43Speaker 1: his way towards the open door, right. So I thought
- 42:46Speaker 1: of this ingenious method. I grabbed like a little bowl,
- 42:50Speaker 1: which virtually anyone on earth can afford, put the bowl
- 42:54Speaker 1: over the wasp so that it was trapped between the
- 42:57Speaker 1: bowl and the screen. Then I took the fly swater
- 42:59Speaker 1: and I split it up between the bowl and the
- 43:01Speaker 1: screen to create a cover for the bowl, and then
- 43:04Speaker 1: ran that thing right out of the porch. Remove the
- 43:07Speaker 1: flyswater from the bowl, and the wasp flew away like
- 43:11Speaker 1: have a good day. Amazing. That's only smith that she
- 43:14Speaker 1: gets like a magazine and a like a tupperware for
- 43:17Speaker 1: kind of any beast works pretty well? Yeah, and that's
- 43:21Speaker 1: not elite US. No, it's not like I don't disagree
- 43:25Speaker 1: with James's overall message. I think it was more as delivery.
- 43:28Speaker 1: That's a little you know, you know. Sure, Okay, So
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