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Jaguars Happy Hour | Analyzing Preseason Performances, Week 1 Outlook · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Monday, September 7th. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 2: Jaguars Happy Hour is brought to you by Jet Home Loans.
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  Speaker 1: And now, the only woman who knows Pete.
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  Speaker 2: Prisco's alter ego, Dashaun Love, Ty 998 Stephens.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome in. We are going to explain the three parts
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  Speaker 3: of the waiver process for you. Physical, emotional, mental. No,
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  Speaker 3: I'm just kidding. I'm excited to talk football. The Jaguars
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  Speaker 3: are going to play football this week. I'm Kainani Stevens
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  Speaker 3: in here for you on Jaguars Happy Hour. We're in
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  Speaker 3: the Hyundai studios. And of course, CBS Sports Senior Writer
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  Speaker 3: Pete Prisco is going to be with us. former Jaguars
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  Speaker 3: defensive end Austin Lane here as well. But first off,
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you what's coming up on the show.
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  Speaker 3: Presented by Deep Eddie Vodka, handcrafted with real fruit. Proud
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  Speaker 3: partner of the Jacksonville Jaguars. It's Monday, September 7th. We've
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  Speaker 3: made it through the preseason. We've made it through training camp.
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  Speaker 3: Had one more weekend of the summer. And now here
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  Speaker 3: on Labor Day, we're going to start talking about the
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  Speaker 3: NFL regular season. Now the Jaguars are going to take
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  Speaker 3: on the rounds in week one here in Jacksonville. So
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  Speaker 3: we'll talk about that matchup, of course. Predict the Jags
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  Speaker 3: season as well. Last two weeks ago, actually, we picked
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  Speaker 3: what we thought the final 53 roster was going to be.
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  Speaker 3: We'll go over that. But now we're going to pick
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  Speaker 3: the wins and losses for the season. We'll keep it
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  Speaker 3: real as we always do. And we'll talk a little
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  Speaker 3: bit about the NFL and things that are going on
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  Speaker 3: right now. So we want to welcome in. Pete Prisco,
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  Speaker 3: and of course, defensive end Austin Lane, former Jaguars defensive end.
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  Speaker 3: You guys, thank you for joining me on Labor Day.
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  Speaker 3: We're laboring through it, but I'm excited to talk about
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  Speaker 3: regular season football. I think finally it feels like it's back.
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  Speaker 4: It definitely feels like it's back. And listen, I'd like
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  Speaker 4: to celebrate Labor Day like anybody, but since we were
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  Speaker 4: so good on our picks, we had to come in
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  Speaker 4: and gloat a little bit simply because of that. So
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  Speaker 4: I have no problem coming in here and bragging a
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  Speaker 4: little bit how we kind of use our collective minds
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  Speaker 4: together and kind of broke down the roster a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely. We're going to get Pete with us in a
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  Speaker 3: couple of minutes here. But let's talk a little bit
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  Speaker 3: about what this looks like. We're going to go over
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  Speaker 3: exactly roster picks that we made. But I think nothing
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  Speaker 3: crazy on those roster decisions. I feel like we felt
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  Speaker 3: pretty comfortable with what we saw. And a lot of
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  Speaker 3: that was because of all that joint practice work they had.
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  Speaker 3: They had three joint practices in the preseason. They went
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  Speaker 3: to the New Orleans Saints and had a practice. Then
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  Speaker 3: they had one with the Carolina Panthers and then two
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  Speaker 3: days with the Bucs here. And that's become what Lee
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  Speaker 3: and Cohen really evaluates off of, it feels like, at
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  Speaker 3: least for his starters. And then that allows them in
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  Speaker 3: the preseason games to get a little more analysis of
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  Speaker 3: some of those undrafted guys or maybe guys fighting for
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  Speaker 3: a spot.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I mean, back in the old days,
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  Speaker 4: as I say, when I used to practice, you know,
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  Speaker 4: we kind of made our money in the preseason games.
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  Speaker 4: That's where you got to evaluate the talent.
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  Speaker 1: And in those days.
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  Speaker 4: according to a lot of teams now are long gone
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  Speaker 4: now it's about these joint practices and and you saw
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  Speaker 4: in these joint practices like not only was it hot
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  Speaker 4: and not only was it physical but it was also
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  Speaker 4: intense you know i mean i think you know whether
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  Speaker 4: it's a football game or whether it's a joint practice
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  Speaker 4: you know month it's not how you start it's how
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  Speaker 4: you finish and i thought they got off to kind
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  Speaker 4: of a slow start i wasn't there in new orleans
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  Speaker 4: but you hear a lot of things He got up to.
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  Speaker 1: A little bit of a slow start on New Orleans. Carolina,
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  Speaker 1: they picked it up a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: And then I thought against Tampa at home, and you
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  Speaker 4: hear Baker Mayfield said it, like the Jaguars got the
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  Speaker 4: better of them, right? I mean, and once again, you
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  Speaker 4: don't want to say you won because it's hard to
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  Speaker 4: tell at practice.
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  Speaker 3: You won at practice. That's not exactly a big deal.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 4: But I feel on offense and defense that day against
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  Speaker 4: the Bucs, they definitely won.
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  Speaker 3: How important is it to set a tone? I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you can say you want to be a physical football
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  Speaker 3: team all you want, and especially when you have less
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  Speaker 3: padded practices now. It feels like having a practice where
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  Speaker 3: you are more physical than the team you're going against
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  Speaker 3: the Bucs can be helpful going into the season where
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  Speaker 3: sometimes week one it looks like no one's played football
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  Speaker 3: in months, truly, and you don't know what you're going
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  Speaker 3: to get.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, when you talk about physicality in football,
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  Speaker 4: you can't pretend, right? Like if you have a fast team,
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  Speaker 4: if you have a finesse team, sure, you can just
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  Speaker 4: kind of coast into week one against Cleveland and rely
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  Speaker 4: on that.
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  Speaker 1: But you can't rely on.
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  Speaker 4: Being physical and just showing up at the door and saying, okay,
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to be physical. Like that starts in OTAs.
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  Speaker 4: That starts during these joint practices and everything. And that's
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  Speaker 4: why I think it was so apparent that, liam cohen
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  Speaker 4: wanted to see this stuff in joint practices because if
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  Speaker 4: they weren't going to play in the preseason well how
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  Speaker 4: do we know what you have if you're not gonna
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  Speaker 4: be physical in these joint practices they were you know
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  Speaker 4: that there's a little some some some you know i
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  Speaker 4: don't know i don't call it fighting but there's a
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  Speaker 4: couple tussles if you will i haven't hopefully we can
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  Speaker 4: get pete prisco because i haven't looked at pete be
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  Speaker 4: like pete are we going in right now are we
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  Speaker 4: about to get in the mix of this as well
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  Speaker 4: and pete kind of gave me like that look like
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  Speaker 4: he was ready to throw down right he ain't the
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  Speaker 4: biggest dude but he's scrappy so i respect it so
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  Speaker 4: me and pete were getting ready to throw down a
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  Speaker 4: little bit um it was It's what you want to see,
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  Speaker 4: especially when you don't have those preseason games to evaluate.
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  Speaker 3: I think Pete proves it's the fight and the dog, right?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, without a doubt. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: We're here on Monday, but it's been a long weekend,
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  Speaker 3: and the players got an extra long weekend. I'd love
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  Speaker 3: your perspective on this. It's kind of a little bit
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  Speaker 3: of a new thing to have. There's always at least
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  Speaker 3: a couple days off, but this is almost a full
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  Speaker 3: extra bye week because of only three preseason games now
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  Speaker 3: and the way that they're doing things. I'm sure, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know, do the players like that? I feel like
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  Speaker 3: in the season they'd love an extra bye week, but
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  Speaker 3: now it's almost like I kind of want to get going.
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  Speaker 3: How would you feel, you think? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think I want to.
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  Speaker 4: Get going and I'm sure the coaches kind of don't
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  Speaker 4: like this at all either.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Because mission accomplished. Everyone, for the most part, has been healthy. Right.
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  Speaker 4: Like you're going to go in week one against Cleveland
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  Speaker 4: with most of your starters. Now, Colvan Landon, we'll see
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  Speaker 4: how that shapes out and everything.
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  Speaker 5: But.
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  Speaker 4: You've the the goal has worked not playing your guys
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  Speaker 4: in the preseason games everyone is healthy fantastic they're all
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  Speaker 4: creatures of habit right so you talk about you want
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  Speaker 4: to start building those good habits and everything that you
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  Speaker 4: established in training camp and now all of a sudden
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  Speaker 4: you're going to go okay well we had a good
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  Speaker 4: training camp we had great great joint practices here's an
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  Speaker 4: extra week off right here's an extra week to i
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  Speaker 4: guess you know watch more film on cleveland game plan
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  Speaker 4: for cleveland or anything but like at the same time
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  Speaker 4: i worry sometimes that it's almost too much Right. Because
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  Speaker 4: I've been on teams in the past where you're so
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  Speaker 4: focused on your opponent, you have so much time to
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  Speaker 4: prepare for them that you stop losing track of yourself.
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  Speaker 4: So what I would expect during that off week, if
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  Speaker 4: you call it, I think it was more of just
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  Speaker 4: cleaning up what they had to take care of.
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  Speaker 1: And then this week is more of the Cleveland preparation week.
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  Speaker 3: Hopefully it'll give them a little bit of time for
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  Speaker 3: maybe any of the banged up guys, something like that.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I agree with you. It just felt a
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  Speaker 3: little weird. It's it, and obviously completely different stakes, but
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  Speaker 3: you know, when you have that extra week before the Superbowl,
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  Speaker 3: it's like an extra week to be like, what's going on.
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  Speaker 4: And hopefully no one's going to Vegas or anything for that.
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  Speaker 4: Everyone's staying in town and everything. Parker Washington is still
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  Speaker 4: getting up at four o'clock in the morning.
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  Speaker 1: We're all good. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: I can trust. I can only assume that, um, getting
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  Speaker 3: ready for the regular season. Um, There is that focus.
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  Speaker 3: But when you talk about that extra time off, hopefully
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  Speaker 3: get some of these guys healthy. Colvin Landon is someone
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  Speaker 3: I certainly have my eye on this week to kind
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  Speaker 3: of keep an eye out for because. He's coming off
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  Speaker 3: that knee surgery in the offseason, and while he's participated
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  Speaker 3: in individual drills, we didn't see him in team drills
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  Speaker 3: at all in practice and training camp. So as an O-lineman,
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  Speaker 3: I feel like that's pretty critical to getting out on
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  Speaker 3: the field. You're going to want to have some hitting.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really the biggest mystery right now going into
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  Speaker 4: week one against Cleveland is what the status of Cole
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  Speaker 4: Van Lannen is going to be. And he's a huge
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  Speaker 4: part of it, right? He goes from the left side
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  Speaker 4: last year, makes his money playing the left side. Now
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  Speaker 4: he transfers back to the right side where I think
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  Speaker 4: he's more comfortable. And also you have a guy in
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  Speaker 4: Anton Harrison who's been chopping at the bit. I feel
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  Speaker 4: like the play left tackle. That's what he played in
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  Speaker 4: college and everything in high school. And to be fair,
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  Speaker 4: that's where you make more money and him in the
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  Speaker 4: contract year. He's probably liking that set up right now
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  Speaker 4: as well. Yeah, I mean, listen, this is just a hunch.
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  Speaker 4: I would think that Colvin Landon would be ready to
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  Speaker 4: go week one. I mean, we saw him last year
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  Speaker 4: against Buffalo with, you know, I think he had half
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  Speaker 4: of a knee hobbling on. He was trying to play
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  Speaker 4: in that game. Now, it didn't work out. We saw
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  Speaker 4: him in the pregame warm-ups. He was definitely hampered by
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  Speaker 4: that injury, but it wasn't for a lack of effort
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  Speaker 4: or lack of determination. I think this is a tough dude.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like if you play offensive lineman, you probably
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  Speaker 4: got to be a little bit of a tough dude.
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  Speaker 4: And I think when you bring him back when you did,
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  Speaker 4: that's a good sign to show, hey, we'll have you
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  Speaker 4: ready for week one against Cleveland.
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  Speaker 3: I think if it's up to him, he'll definitely be
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  Speaker 3: out there. Obviously, we'll get... You know, our first injury
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  Speaker 3: report will come out on Wednesday, so we'll have a
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  Speaker 3: little bit more of an idea of what's actually going
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  Speaker 3: to be going on. We're here on Jaguars Happy Hour
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  Speaker 3: on YouTube and Jaguars.com. So we're going to take a
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  Speaker 3: quick break now and try to come back, reset, and
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  Speaker 3: check in with Pete. Of course, we are going to
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  Speaker 3: go over our 53-man roster picks and all that and
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  Speaker 3: more coming up on Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by Jet
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  Speaker 3: Home Loans. Welcome back in. It's Jaguars Happy Hour presented
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  Speaker 3: by Jet Hormones. We're here in the Hyundai studios and
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  Speaker 3: we finally have Jaguars regular season of football to talk about.
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  Speaker 3: We did not have a show last week, so we're
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  Speaker 3: going to go over the final 53 man roster because
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  Speaker 3: we picked it on the show and we want to
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  Speaker 3: see how we did.
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  Speaker 5: So.
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  Speaker 3: We did quarterbacks, which I feel like we kind of
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  Speaker 3: got right at the time, given the information available to us.
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  Speaker 3: Quinn Ewers was not on this roster. So Nick Mullins
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  Speaker 3: was kind of just like, we know he's going to
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  Speaker 3: be in this building at some point. But what ended
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  Speaker 3: up happening is they traded a pick down to the
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  Speaker 3: Miami Dolphins, got Quinn Ewers up here. He is now
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  Speaker 3: the backup quarterback on this team. And the practice squad
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  Speaker 3: is going to have not only Joey Aguilar, but also
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  Speaker 3: Nick Mullins, who's kind of decided to stay. And it
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  Speaker 3: feels like he's almost kind of taking on that coaching
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  Speaker 3: role in the room, if you will.
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  Speaker 1: No, without a doubt.
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  Speaker 4: And I thought, I mean, you know, we obviously picked
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  Speaker 4: Nick Mullins. We thought he was going to be the
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  Speaker 4: favorite as that backup. And then they ended up, you know,
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  Speaker 4: getting rid of him, bringing back the practice squad. They
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  Speaker 4: traded for Quinn Ewers. You know, I was a little
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  Speaker 4: surprised because you had guys like Will Levis out there.
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  Speaker 4: I think Kyle Trask was out there as well. Two
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  Speaker 4: guys that are familiar a little bit with Liam Cohen.
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  Speaker 4: So I was a little surprised to see a guy
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  Speaker 4: like Quinn Ewers. But obviously, you know, and it's one
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  Speaker 4: of those things where in Liam Cohen and James Gladstone,
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  Speaker 4: you trust where you're going to sacrifice a late round pick.
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  Speaker 4: They obviously see something in him. And Let's be honest.
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  Speaker 4: Hopefully we don't have to talk about the backup quarterback
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  Speaker 4: at any.
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  Speaker 3: Point this season. Things will have gone awry if we're
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  Speaker 3: talking about that.
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  Speaker 4: Unless you're going to be resting guys week 17 or
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  Speaker 4: week 18 or whatever. But they obviously saw something in him,
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  Speaker 4: and we'll see what that turns out to be.
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  Speaker 3: Haven't seen a ton of viewers lately, but I think
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  Speaker 3: with both him and Aguilar, there's a talent there that
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  Speaker 3: is available. Nick Mullins is the guy that knows the
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  Speaker 3: system front and back. That's fine. He's later in his career,
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  Speaker 3: of course. And having both those two younger guys seeing
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  Speaker 3: if they can pick up the system with having a
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  Speaker 3: natural ability, this is really a situation where, like you said,
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  Speaker 3: if Trevor Lawrence goes down long-term, this is not great
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  Speaker 3: for the Jacksonville Jaguars. This is a, hey, if Trevor
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  Speaker 3: has like a sore or something and could sit out
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  Speaker 3: a week instead of rushing back immediately and having someone
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  Speaker 3: capable in there where you're not rushing him back early,
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  Speaker 3: that's what you ideally would like.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and this kind of shows the growth of Trevor
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  Speaker 4: Lawrence as well, right? Because backup quarterbacks, they serve two purposes,
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  Speaker 4: set aside from trying to win games as well if
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  Speaker 4: they get called upon. They serve as either you're the
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  Speaker 4: older veteran who's, you know, the system of trying to
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  Speaker 4: teach the starting quarterback who's maybe a little younger what
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  Speaker 4: that system is, or he's a younger guy who, you know,
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  Speaker 4: you want to develop a little bit and maybe use
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  Speaker 4: him as trade bait down the line or maybe develop
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  Speaker 4: into a legit quarterback down the line as well. Trevor
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  Speaker 4: has shown now that he's kind of mastered this offense
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  Speaker 4: a little bit going into year two in the Liam
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  Speaker 4: Cohen system.
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  Speaker 1: He's shown that he can be an MVP candidate.
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  Speaker 4: I think now that the days are done of, hey,
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  Speaker 4: we need to have a reliable veteran presence in there
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  Speaker 4: for Trevor to kind of show him things, I think
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  Speaker 4: Trevor now is going into that veteran himself.
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  Speaker 3: All right. Wide receivers, we got correct. Tight ends, we
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  Speaker 3: got correct. They ended up sending Hunter Long actually to
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  Speaker 3: Arizona to get a pick back, which I think they
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  Speaker 3: were going to cut him anyway. So I think that
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  Speaker 3: was a smart move. We had nine offensive linemen. We
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  Speaker 3: got all that correct. Running backs is where we were
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  Speaker 3: a little bit off. And I don't think we had
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  Speaker 3: talked about it as well. We just didn't know if
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  Speaker 3: Amir Abdul was going to be on practice squad or
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  Speaker 3: on the active roster. They ended up putting him on
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  Speaker 3: the active roster. And clearly, I think half of that
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  Speaker 3: is Laquan Allen being banged up right now. He has
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  Speaker 3: a soft tissue injury. tissue injury we do not know
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  Speaker 3: if he'll be available for week one now you don't
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  Speaker 3: have to rush him back and also amir abdullah came
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  Speaker 3: in doing all the right things and as far as
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  Speaker 3: pre-season show outs he looked good.
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  Speaker 4: No he looked great and i think this is more
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  Speaker 4: of pete was getting a little cocky in terms of
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  Speaker 4: the roster who we thought you know like they're always
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  Speaker 4: listening to him i feel like this was just more
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  Speaker 4: about proving proving pete wrong than actually like doing what's
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  Speaker 4: best for the team obviously i'm joking but listen i
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  Speaker 4: Anytime I can get on Abdul's weight program, his nutrition program,
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  Speaker 4: because his 13th season in the NFL, 12th season in
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  Speaker 4: the NFL right now, and it looks like he hasn't
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  Speaker 4: lost a step, still looks like he's running 22 miles
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  Speaker 4: per hour throughout practice. It's absolutely insane in terms of
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  Speaker 4: what he's been able to accomplish for so long, especially
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  Speaker 4: at a position at running back that's so volatile, that's
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  Speaker 4: such a revolving door where you really have a short
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  Speaker 4: shelf life. He's like, I guess you'd say he's like
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  Speaker 4: the Twinkies of the running backs. He's going to last forever.
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  Speaker 3: He'll make it through an apocalypse.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 3: He's found a way. Yeah, 12 years in. I mean, obviously,
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  Speaker 3: he's figured something out. And they think he's a great
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  Speaker 3: pass blocker as well. So to have him in that
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  Speaker 3: role is going to be good. Now, on the defensive
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  Speaker 3: side of football, maybe this is where some of the
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  Speaker 3: surprises came in for people. Nothing crazy on the DB room.
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  Speaker 3: We had almost everybody. We had nine out of the 10,
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  Speaker 3: the one we got wrong. We had Jabbar Muhammad over
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  Speaker 3: Christian Braswell.
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  Speaker 2: I was.
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  Speaker 3: I was 50-50 on that. I don't think that anybody
• 12:34
  Speaker 3: was super shocked with that. I think more Christian Braswell
• 12:36
  Speaker 3: has the size, perhaps. And when it comes down to things,
• 12:39
  Speaker 3: Jabbar Muhammad was a little bit undersized. And if you're
• 12:42
  Speaker 3: getting picked on a preseason game in the regular season,
• 12:44
  Speaker 3: it's definitely going to happen. So he's still in the
• 12:46
  Speaker 3: practice squad. He'll be around. But Christian Braswell has been
• 12:49
  Speaker 3: around a little longer, maybe gives him some more versatility there.
• 12:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, to me, with the Braswell-Muhammad debate, it was more
• 12:55
  Speaker 4: of what you know with Braswell versus maybe the boom
• 12:58
  Speaker 4: or bust potential of Muhammad, right? Because especially in that
• 13:00
  Speaker 4: first preseason game against the Saints, you know, there was
• 13:03
  Speaker 4: the penalty. You know, he kind of had an up-and-down game,
• 13:06
  Speaker 4: finished strong, though, right, and everything. So still on the Jaguars, obviously,
• 13:11
  Speaker 4: in the practice squad, and they can still develop him
• 13:12
  Speaker 4: and maybe get more out of him. But it was
• 13:15
  Speaker 4: just going, I think, with the more sure thing of
• 13:16
  Speaker 4: who they know they're getting with Christian Braswell in that
• 13:18
  Speaker 4: active 53.
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 13:20
  Speaker 3: And I mean, they're also got some they've got a
• 13:21
  Speaker 3: lot of young guys in the DB room. So there's,
• 13:23
  Speaker 3: you know, and we'll talk about this later in the show.
• 13:26
  Speaker 3: But whether it's Jalen Husky or Caleb Ranza, who we
• 13:29
  Speaker 3: didn't see in his rookie season because he was hurt,
• 13:31
  Speaker 3: we're going to have to see more from them going forward, too.
• 13:33
  Speaker 3: So there's a lot of, you know. not projects, people
• 13:36
  Speaker 3: that need to continue to progress and get comfortable at
• 13:39
  Speaker 3: the NFL level. So there's going to be a lot
• 13:41
  Speaker 3: of that in the DB room, and then there's a
• 13:42
  Speaker 3: lot of veterans there as well. Here's maybe a shocker
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: if you want to call it that. Linebackers, they only
• 13:46
  Speaker 3: go five, right? So they got Foye, Gardeck. uh branson
• 13:51
  Speaker 3: combs ventrell miller and then we had yabsir abdullah which
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: they didn't end up keeping him he got picked up
• 13:55
  Speaker 3: by the falcons on waivers the one player for the
• 13:57
  Speaker 3: jaguars that got picked up on waivers but jelani tavai
• 14:00
  Speaker 3: ends up staying um and it's another note of the
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: two guys that maybe we were quote surprised by they're
• 14:06
  Speaker 3: veterans from elsewhere in the league they've shown they know
• 14:07
  Speaker 3: how to play they're professional football players and come in
• 14:10
  Speaker 3: and be steady and and kind of hold on and
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: understand the system enough to come and make an impact hopefully.
• 14:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Asir Abdullah was maybe the one surprise for me
• 14:18
  Speaker 4: just because I felt like he kind of made his
• 14:19
  Speaker 4: name known a little bit, getting after the quarterback, creating
• 14:23
  Speaker 4: some pressure, and also in the special teams game as well,
• 14:25
  Speaker 4: which is where he's probably going to make all his
• 14:26
  Speaker 4: money this season in terms of depth and everything.
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: They let him go. Obviously, the Falcons saw something.
• 14:31
  Speaker 4: And really just a guy, you know, and especially with
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: this defense as well, where I expect to see maybe
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: two linebackers. I'm not going to see a lot of
• 14:38
  Speaker 4: base three linebackers for sets and everything. And then if
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: you do in turn go dime and you have safeties
• 14:43
  Speaker 4: out there, Then you're only going to see Foye and
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: Lueken out there. So I think kind of only keeping
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: five linebackers kind of shows a little bit of how
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: they feel about this defense, what this scheme could be,
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: and you're probably going to be expecting to see a
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: lot of nickel.
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: And dime out there.
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: And Foye's not coming off the field unless you carry
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: him off, so.
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah.
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: That's pretty much a given. Plus, for me, I think,
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, that might be a position where if there
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: were injuries at some point, you could probably find someone
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: to bring in. And, you know, whether it's Tavai, like
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: we talked about, you could find someone somewhere to bring
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: in midseason that would be able to be serviceable there.
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: No, without a doubt, right?
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: Like, obviously that that middle linebacker spot is so crucial
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: just because, I mean, you're the general of the defense, right?
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: You're calling the blitzes, you're calling the games, you're calling
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: the coverages in the back, and everybody's, like, lined up,
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: and that's what makes 4A so great.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: It's kind of a thankless job, right?
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: Because even last year, we always, we praised Devin Lloyd, right?
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: All the interceptions, the pick six against Kansas City and everything, but...
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: The quiet constant of Foya Luke and was what made
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: that he was the engine that made that defense run.
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: So he's just as crucial as anybody in that defense. And, yeah,
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: it's about the off the ball linebacker, whether it's going
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: to be Combs, whether it's going to be Ventral Miller.
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: They both do things differently. Ventral Miller, more of the
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: physical downhill can hit you in the mouth type of linebacker.
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: And then Combs is more of, I think, the athletic,
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: maybe a little more blitzing, maybe a little drop back
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: into coverage position. expect to see both those guys used
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: and depending who they're playing i think in various looks.
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: I think that's an or on the starter for sure
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: it's gonna be it's an or one or the other
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: but both yeah i mean here's.
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: What they got to do when they announce like their
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: starters on defense you have to have ventro miller or
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: branson combs.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: So they run out together like that might be the combination.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: You're gonna have holding hands.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: Okay okay there we go we don't want to hurt
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: anyone's feelings so you're both gonna run out i like
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: it i like it um they went heavy on a
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: defensive line and a lot of that is because of
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: these uh the young pass rushers that they have on
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: this team that they feel like they've seen something from
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: and we talked about this on the show i want
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: i don't want to say we were ahead of the
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: curve here but brian thomas jr um on defense out
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: of south carolina had been doing great at training camp
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: and he really showed it in that third preseason game
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: and if there was a doubt there wasn't one after that.
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah this is this is what i love about this
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: regime um and this team It doesn't matter where you're drafted.
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: It doesn't matter if you're an undrafted free agent. It
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: doesn't matter how much money you make in the offseason
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: if they try to bring you in, right? I think
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: Duame Brown was a great example of that last year.
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: They had high hopes for him. Unfortunately, it didn't work out.
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: I think some teams still would have played him through
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: that $ 10 million contract. The Jaguars chose not to do it.
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: I think Brian Thomas Jr. is another classic example of
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: a guy who busted his butt in training camp, made
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: the most of his plays in the preseason, and he got.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Awarded a roster spot.
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: And that's been the M.O., I feel like, of this team,
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: where it doesn't matter where you're taken, doesn't matter where
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: you come from. If you do your job and you
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: show what you're capable of, they're going to find a
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: spot for you. And trust me, I've been on many
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: teams where... that's not the mo right where it's like
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: well we drafted this guy here so we kind of
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: got to keep like no like i don't think this
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: coaching staff believes in i think the best players will
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: play and if you're going to do some of the
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: dirty work they're going to find a spot.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: For you and that has to be if you're an
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: undrafted player or even a later round player I'll say
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: the undrafted players for sure. You want to come to
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: Jacksonville because you're actually going to get a chance at this.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Of course. Yeah, you're going to get a fair shake.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: Like, you know, I think there's some teams out there
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: where if you're an undrafted free agent and you show up.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: You kind of know what it is.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: Your training camp body. Right?
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: Like your training camp body going to take advantage of
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: the free meals and everything while you can and hopefully
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: get a practice squad opportunity someplace. You come to Jacksonville
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: and it's like, hey, okay, maybe I didn't get drafted.
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: I'm disappointed, but I can still make a name for myself.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: If I produce on those preseason games, who knows.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: What can happen?
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: I think with the pass rush, some of that you
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: can't teach, right? Like if you've already got the ability,
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: some of it's, you know, just having that innate sense
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: of what works. And I feel like that's what they've
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: seen the spark from him and they'll work on the
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: other stuff. I don't know if he'll dress right away,
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: but that's what I feel like Liam's really like kind
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: of keyed in on. He's like, some of that stuff
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: we can't really teach. So if you have it, we'll,
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: we'll teach you the other stuff.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Let me ask you this question. Cause you know, obviously
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: it was between him and Durfee.
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: Durfee gets put on the IR.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: If Durfee would have been healthy. What do you think
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: they would have done?
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: It's hard to say because Durfee's been hurt for a
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: couple of weeks. So we really hadn't seen much. It was,
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: we had talked about him, you know, the first week
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: or two of this, of training, like very, very early on,
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: barely after the pads went on, then he'd been dealing
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: with a nagging thing. He'd been on and off, but
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: we knew he was dealing with something. So it's really
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: hard to evaluate when somebody is like that, especially cause
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: he's the ultimate, you know, prospect X potential guy. Um,
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: So obviously there's always ways to use the roster to advantage.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: I don't think that's the situation he is hurt right now,
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: but this gives him a little more time to develop. True.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: I think, and once again, he was kind of used
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: sparingly in those preseason games, obviously because of injuries. So,
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: you know, I mean, knock on wood, like you never
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: see a guy go through injuries, but it may have
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: actually helped the team out a little.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Bit because that would have been a hard decision, I
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: feel like.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: And I almost probably would have leaned once again, it's
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: hard to really judge Derpy because we can see him
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: a lot, but I think Brian Thomas Jr. was going
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: to get to the point where if you did put
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: him on the practice squad, it would have been another yes,
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: you're Abdullah situation.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Team would have poached him. Right now, Durfee, I mean,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: we didn't get to see a lot.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: But even if he was healthy to the point where
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: he didn't go on the IR, maybe you could have
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: put him on the practice squad.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: And then, you know, hopefully no team steals him.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: I think if we were doing what-ifs, that probably would
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: have been the case just because we hadn't seen a
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: ton of Durfee. So being a later round pick, you
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: might be able to hide him a little bit more
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: on a practice squad. But other than that, the specialists,
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: obviously we nailed that. And we did pretty good overall.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: I think on practice squad, they did bring back Jack Kaiser,
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: who was a draft pick of theirs, also dealing with
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: an injury. They did bring him back. I was happy
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: to see Aguilar. I know they got Quinn Ewers now.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: But it's nice to see some younger people that they're
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: working with as well. You want to have veteran presence
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: in there, of course, but... I think practice squad also
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: having some talent that could potentially work their way in
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: is a good spot to be.
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: Well, I hope Liam Cohen starts releasing like the stats
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: during practice squad as well, because I mean, what, Aguilar's
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: got like two incompletions the entire preseason so far.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: Someone has to keep an eye on that.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to say, like, is this going to
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: carry on?
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: And then the practice squad looks as well. Will he
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: be going against the ones like tearing them apart? Like,
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: I'm curious. Liam's got to keep us posted on this.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: I feel like Aguilar could be a good like kind
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: of scout team guy, at least like he seems like
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: very adaptable to that. So maybe that's the role he
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: will end up playing. I don't know if Nick Mullins
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: can be doing that necessarily. So I think that is
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: interesting to me a little bit. But overall, I feel good.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: Any any question spots, anything you're concerned about roster wise
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: looking at this going into week one?
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: Nothing too much right now, right? I think where it stands,
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: where it stands. Yeah, I don't have any concerns yet.
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: Now talk to me after the Browns game. Hopefully everybody
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: can stay.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Healthy and everything like that.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: We haven't really seen them play together in months.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think that the biggest, well, there's
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: two big questions, right?
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: I think going into this Browns game is number one,
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: obviously Cole Van Lannen, but we'll wait and see with that.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: And then another thing is, did they like Amir Abdullah
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: so much where they just found a spot for him?
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: Or is this more of the Quinn Allen Jr., You know,
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: is he going to be ready to go for week one?
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: I haven't heard anything yet about that in terms of.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: Liam talked last week and he said it sounded more
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: like he would be pleasantly surprised if he played week one. So, again,
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: they're not in a situation where they feel like they're
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: going to rush him back. And that's a good spot
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: to be, especially with soft tissue.
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's a great spot to be in.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: And I think it begs the question when the Quentin
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: Allen Jr. does eventually come back. You know, will you
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: keep Amir Abdullah or, you know, maybe you put him
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: in a different practice squad, something like that, just because
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: I think Amir Abdullah, like he's shown in preseason, he
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: can run between the tackles. He's a great receiver, obviously
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: brings a wealth of knowledge and experience. And it doesn't
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: hurt to have a guy like that in your running
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: back locker room, right? You saw what Jacoby Myers did
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: when he came in here with this wide receiver room
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: halfway through this season. You have a pretty young running
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: back room right now, and that's including Chris Rodriguez Jr.
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: So I wonder if Amir Abdullah is going to be
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: in the long-term plans, even when the Quinn Allen Jr.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: becomes healthy, simply because he has, you know, obviously a
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: pretty long resume.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: It is a young room, and you only got, what,
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: two four-years? Two two-year guys and a four-year guy. So
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: you want to have a little bit of experience in there,
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: at least to round things out. For conversation's sake, I'll say.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: And what that rotation ends up looking like, we're not
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: sure yet. That's one of my question marks for week one.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: I'm really excited to see what that ends up looking like.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: We all know Pete wants to see Tooting out there
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: for every single play. I don't know if we will.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: I think we're going to see a lot more Chris
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: Rodriguez than I think people may initially be expecting to see.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: That's just a hunch I get in the way that
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: Liam Cohen talks about him and kind of the physicality.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: I was always surprised, obviously, with Liam's first season being
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: with the Jags last year. They came out and they
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: ran it. And maybe that's partially because it's a complicated
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: office and they wanted to do that early. But it's
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: easy to say you want to be a team that
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: runs the football and be physical. Mm-hmm. But then you
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: get in it and you're like, shoot, I just want to, like,
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: get these chunk plays. Like, you know, it's easy to
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: stick to it as much as Liam does for being
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: someone as creative as he is on offense. I think
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: that's impressive.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: It's impressive.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: And, you know, I talked about this actually on the
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: last pregame show, just talking about, you know, forwarding to
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: the Browns game coming up and everything. Obviously, on paper,
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: the Jaguars have the advantage, right, in pretty much every
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: single position, right? And that's not to knock the Browns
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: because it's the NFL. Anything can happen. But if you
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: look at a team on paper who, you know, you
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: have the talent and it's to me, it's not even close.
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: But you look at the ultimate equalizer, it's physicality.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: Where if we're sitting here on Sunday and it's the
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: fourth quarter and it's a three point game, we're going
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: to be talking about man.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Browns look physical out there, right? So that's the ultimate equalizer.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: So to me, with Liam Cohen, what he wants to do, like, yeah,
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: I think you have the receivers to win, especially in
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: the slot. I think the Browns can be vulnerable a
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: little bit. So Parker Washington might have a big day,
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: which might count towards the.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Contract going forward if he doesn't get paid already.
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: But I think you can come out and run the ball.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: And you establish the line of scrimmage and you establish
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: physicality and you leave no doubt with the Cleveland Browns
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: thinking like, hey, It's going to be a long game.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: It's going to be probably a hot game, we would
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: all assume. So, you know, if you guys want to
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: try to run the ball on us, good luck. We've
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: got a pretty good defensive line ourselves in Jacksonville, and
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: we're going to try to run the ball on you.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: Stopping the run is the name of the game for them,
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: so that should be good, too. We are just getting
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: started here on Jaguars Happy Hour. Stay with us. We're
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: going to pick wins and losses of the schedule, and
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: we'll talk more about the Week 1 matchup with the
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns coming up here on Jaguars Happy Hour, presented
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  Speaker 3: by Jet Home Loans. Welcome back into Jaguars Happy Hour,
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: week one against the Browns, brought to you by Publix,
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  Speaker 3: where shopping is a pleasure. We're going to talk about
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  Speaker 3: what we think the player of the game needs to
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  Speaker 3: be in that game, and I'm going to go out
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  Speaker 3: on a limb and say it's going to be 16.
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  Speaker 3: We need a good showing out of him, not necessarily
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  Speaker 3: just to win the game, but Trevor Lawrence played out
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  Speaker 3: of his mind the back half of last season, but
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  Speaker 3: as it's always been with Trevor, it's consistency, right? So
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  Speaker 3: what do you want to see out of him, Austin,
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  Speaker 3: in week one that would make you feel comfortable and
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  Speaker 3: feel like, all right, we're picking up where we left off?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what? I think, I mean.
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  Speaker 4: He has all the skills now. I think he has
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  Speaker 4: all the confidence. You've seen it in the press conferences.
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  Speaker 4: You've seen it on the field in joint practices. And
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  Speaker 4: it's almost to the point now where you know you've
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  Speaker 4: kind of made it as a quarterback when we're not
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  Speaker 4: breaking you down every single day at practice.
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  Speaker 1: Not at all.
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  Speaker 4: Whether it's good or bad. Now we're talking about, oh,
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  Speaker 4: you see that catch from Brian Thomas Jr. at Parker Washington.
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  Speaker 4: And Trevor Lawrence is kind of the afterthought, even though
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  Speaker 4: he's the guy that's throwing them the football. So that's
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  Speaker 4: a great sign. To me, it's got to be the
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  Speaker 4: help around Trevor. I think Trevor has all the tools
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  Speaker 4: to succeed defensively. Now, can you have the run game
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  Speaker 4: have his back a little bit right now? Can the
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  Speaker 4: receivers catch the football and everything so that I'm not
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  Speaker 4: worried about Trevor whatsoever? And yes, the Browns defense is OK, right?
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  Speaker 4: Like they're OK in the secondary defensive lines, not bad
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  Speaker 4: and everything.
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  Speaker 1: Like I said, the slot corner.
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  Speaker 4: It might be a little bit of a liability, so
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  Speaker 4: it could be a big day for Parker Washington, but
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  Speaker 4: this is the Browns, right? And if they've had one
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  Speaker 4: calling card the past decade, it seems like they're always
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  Speaker 4: pretty physical on defense. So I think if you can
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  Speaker 4: mix that running game, run that play action a little bit,
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  Speaker 4: run some boots, use Trevor's legs a little bit, get
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  Speaker 4: them open, and then get that confidence going, I think
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  Speaker 4: the sky's going to be the limit in terms of
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  Speaker 4: fantasy purposes, what you want to see from Trevor Lawrence.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And with the Browns, you know, they've been able to
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  Speaker 3: say they're always physical, right? They may not always be good.
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  Speaker 3: That's kind of where they're at. Tom Munkin, obviously going
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  Speaker 3: to have his guys hopefully ready to go in that matchup.
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  Speaker 3: They've named Deshaun Watson as the quarterback and.
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  Speaker 1: 7-1, by the way, against the Jaguars.
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  Speaker 3: It's actually 7-0 because the one loss... Well, I only
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  Speaker 3: say this because the one loss was not a game
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  Speaker 3: he started. It was when he came in in 2017.
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  Speaker 3: So give him even more credit, if you will. He's
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  Speaker 3: 7-0 against the Jaguars when he starts. So that will
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  Speaker 3: be interesting. But this is not the Deshaun Watson of old.
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  Speaker 1: It is not, right?
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  Speaker 4: And correct me, I think he played one game that
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  Speaker 4: kind of punctured lung, too, if I'm not mistaken, where...
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  Speaker 4: Back in the day? Yeah, from what I heard, he
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: couldn't get on the plane. So they had to actually
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  Speaker 4: bus him from Houston to Jacksonville to play against the
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  Speaker 4: Jaguars because he couldn't get on a plane because of
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  Speaker 4: the cabin pressure.
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  Speaker 3: Football players were football players.
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  Speaker 1: I guess so. No, for sure.
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  Speaker 3: That's a sick day for me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. So yeah, now he's with Cleveland.
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  Speaker 4: It's going to be obviously a different look, a different setup.
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  Speaker 4: He's getting booed at home, right? And he's probably going
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  Speaker 4: to get booed a little bit in Jacksonville as well.
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  Speaker 3: If he throws a pick here, he'll cheer, I'm sure.
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  Speaker 1: And then we're going to cheer accordingly.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, correct.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely. Obviously a huge sigh relief you don't have to
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  Speaker 3: see Miles Garrett in week one, but Jared Verst, he's
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  Speaker 3: pretty good too.
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  Speaker 1: He is.
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  Speaker 3: And he's probably going to be playing with a chip
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  Speaker 3: this massive on his shoulder this year after getting traded
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  Speaker 3: out of L.A. I'm not worried about the offensive line.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like they're all very individually talented. But what
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  Speaker 3: is interesting is they're all in different places now, right?
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  Speaker 3: Anton was your right tackle. Now is your left tackle.
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  Speaker 3: You got a rookie and Emmanuel Pregnant in at left
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  Speaker 3: guard and Ezra Cleveland, who's very physical and one of
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  Speaker 3: your most athletic players, head over to right guard. And
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  Speaker 3: then we don't know what right tackle is going to
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  Speaker 3: look like. Colvin Lynn has played there before, but it
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  Speaker 3: might not be him. So Robert Hainsey is probably your
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  Speaker 3: one stalwart in the center there, but is there some concern?
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  Speaker 3: Because they always talk about operating as a unit, and
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  Speaker 3: now everybody's in a different spot in the lineup.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think there's definitely going to be concern at
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  Speaker 4: the right tackle, and it's not a knock on Colvin
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  Speaker 4: Lennon if he does indeed play, but I see a
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  Speaker 4: guy like Jared verse and no.
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  Speaker 1: He's not a miles Garrett per se.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: He's, he's like a miles Garrett zero, right?
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  Speaker 4: Like, I mean, he's, he's zero calorie, but he still
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  Speaker 4: gets the job diet, you know, it's a little diet, right.
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  Speaker 1: But it still gets the job done. And I think
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  Speaker 1: he's earned the right now.
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  Speaker 4: In Jared verse where he's one of those guys where
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  Speaker 4: you look at the Jaguars offensive line and go, okay,
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  Speaker 4: where's the weakest point. We're going to try to attack that.
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  Speaker 4: And once again, it's not a knock on Colvin Lennon,
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  Speaker 4: but he hasn't really practiced at all in training camp, right?
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  Speaker 4: He's been off in the sidelines. He doesn't have any
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  Speaker 4: preseason game experience, if you will. And we don't know
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  Speaker 4: how that knee is going to respond if he, in fact,
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  Speaker 4: does plan on playing against the Browns. So if I'm
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  Speaker 4: the Browns, if I'm Jared Burse, like I'm picking that
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  Speaker 4: right side and I'm going to exploit that a little bit. Now, yes,
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  Speaker 4: Anton Harrison playing a new spot, playing the left tackle
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  Speaker 4: and everything. But I think the right side is going
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  Speaker 4: to be a little more vulnerable until we can see
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  Speaker 4: what exactly Colvin Lennon can do.
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  Speaker 3: I think also, as much as we love Emmanuel Pregnant,
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  Speaker 3: I feel like there's a lot there that is going
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  Speaker 3: to come up. He's still a rookie, and I think
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  Speaker 3: we need to remind ourselves that if I'm game planning
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  Speaker 3: for that, I'm going to throw stunts at him. I'm
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  Speaker 3: going to try to trick the stuff he hasn't seen yet, right?
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  Speaker 3: He's just ready to push the guy in front of him,
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  Speaker 3: but if everything's looking different, then it doesn't matter. at practice,
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  Speaker 3: it might get a little squirrely in the beginning. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, keep in mind, you're having two fresh new
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  Speaker 4: faces on the left side of the ball now with, with,
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  Speaker 4: with pregnant and Anton Harrison and, And Pete spoke on
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  Speaker 4: this a lot, and hopefully Pete, as he tries to
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  Speaker 4: go battle with Zoom right now, he.
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  Speaker 1: Can get in here.
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  Speaker 3: Technical difficulties, always.
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  Speaker 1: I get it, man.
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  Speaker 4: I had grandparents who had trouble on Zoom for the holidays, Thanksgiving, right?
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  Speaker 4: I tried to Zoom them. We had to set it
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  Speaker 4: up with them.
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  Speaker 5: I understand.
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  Speaker 3: I'm envisioning Pete on the beach right now. I'm assuming
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  Speaker 3: he just didn't want to come in from the sun. Oh, no.
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  Speaker 4: I envision Pete having problems with the Zoom and not
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  Speaker 4: knowing where the camera is, not knowing how the mute
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  Speaker 4: button works and everything. But, hey, it's a learning experience
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  Speaker 4: for everybody. It was for my grandparents, and it was
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  Speaker 4: for Pete Prisco as well. Hopefully we'll get him in
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  Speaker 4: here in a little bit, but you know, I think
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  Speaker 4: with pregnant, you love the physicality, right?
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  Speaker 1: Like he's shown it, he's shown pancake blocks, right? And everything.
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  Speaker 4: Does he have the wherewithal now to, to have the
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  Speaker 4: mental game as well? Because it's one thing in the
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  Speaker 4: preseason against twos and threes, right? It's going to be
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  Speaker 4: another thing against starting caliber players, even if it is
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  Speaker 4: the Browns in the NFL. So that's going to be
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  Speaker 4: a big test for him. And hopefully, you know, whether
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  Speaker 4: you have the center, whether you have your tackle and,
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  Speaker 4: and Anton Harrison having your back, but yeah, I feel
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  Speaker 4: like a guard is a little easier spot to hide
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  Speaker 4: as a rookie than a tackle.
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  Speaker 3: Is there anything that, when you look on paper or
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  Speaker 3: just in your week of prep, is there anything about
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  Speaker 3: the rounds that scare you right now?
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  Speaker 4: Honestly, once again, it's not necessarily even a player. Like, Judkins, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: he's a pretty solid running back, right, but coming off
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  Speaker 4: a pretty serious injury. We'll see how much he gets
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  Speaker 4: called upon. In terms of their wide receivers and everything, like, okay,
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  Speaker 4: they have Jerry Judy.
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  Speaker 1: They have names. Fannin, if this was last year, I'd
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  Speaker 1: be a little more nervous in terms of Fannin, right? Because.
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  Speaker 4: You saw tight ends absolutely tear this team apart last year.
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  Speaker 3: For many years, many, many years.
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  Speaker 1: For many years.
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  Speaker 4: Not to say Fanning can't do that because this is
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  Speaker 4: a guy who can get– he's a lot like Brenton Strange.
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  Speaker 4: They can split him out wide. You can run him
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  Speaker 4: in motion. You can kind of put him anywhere, and
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  Speaker 4: he's a mismatched nightmare. But I do feel a lot
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  Speaker 4: more confident with what the safeties have this year and
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  Speaker 4: that Jaguars secondary than what they had last year. So
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  Speaker 4: Fanning doesn't necessarily scare me too much, but once again,
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  Speaker 4: it comes down to the physicality. And if you're talking
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  Speaker 4: about where I think the Jaguars have the big advantage–
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  Speaker 4: You know, when I talk about offensive line where we're
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  Speaker 4: not really sure what we're going to see yet, their
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  Speaker 4: offensive line has a bunch of fresh new faces. If
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  Speaker 4: I'm not mistaken, I think their starting five is a
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  Speaker 4: completely different starting five from last year in Cleveland.
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  Speaker 3: Which is probably a good thing for them because they
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  Speaker 3: had trouble with that.
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean, they had some trouble.
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  Speaker 4: But once again, you're going to have five new faces
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  Speaker 4: and some young faces, too, in that Cleveland offensive line
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  Speaker 4: where you have a Jaguars defensive line who is bringing
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  Speaker 4: pretty much everybody back. And then some fresh faces who
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  Speaker 4: are going to contribute as well. I think that's where
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  Speaker 4: the X factor is going to be right there in
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  Speaker 4: the trenches for the Jaguars defense.
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  Speaker 3: All right, we're going to hit a break right now.
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  Speaker 3: And then hopefully we'll check in with Pete Prisco after
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  Speaker 3: the break. And he'll give us all the details as
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  Speaker 3: well from his analysis. And we're going to pick the
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  Speaker 3: schedule for the Jaguars. Jaguars happy hour presented by Jet
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  Speaker 3: Home Loans.
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  Speaker 1: I think this offense is going to be so good.
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  Speaker 2: I think Dak Prescott's finally going to get the flowers
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  Speaker 2: he deserves, and I think he's going to put up
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  Speaker 2: big numbers and might even be in the MVP conversation
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  Speaker 2: this year. The Cowboys win this game in advance of
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  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 3: So you guys can see me. I'm smiling. I'm so happy.
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  Speaker 3: This is the Cowboys' first Super Bowl appearance since the 1990s.
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  Speaker 3: This is all great. This is all fun. But you're
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  Speaker 3: going to ruin my fun here because our Super Bowl
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  Speaker 3: matchup is the Jags and the Cowboys, and who wins?
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  Speaker 2: And again, two really good offensive teams that are going
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  Speaker 2: to score a lot of points. It's going to be
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  Speaker 2: a fun Super Bowl, but in the end, I think
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  Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence will make the play late to win it.
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  Speaker 2: Jacksonville wins their first ever Super Bowl. In fact, the
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  Speaker 2: first one they ever get to. And you can call
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  Speaker 2: me a homer for all you want, but you know what?
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  Speaker 2: I'd rather be right.
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  Speaker 3: We call him a homer, but he's our homer. And
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  Speaker 3: that's why we gave you a little bit extra holiday, Pete.
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  Speaker 3: But CBS Sports senior writer Pete Prisco with us. Pete,
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  Speaker 3: thank you for joining us. And of course, we had
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  Speaker 3: to lead with your Super Bowl prediction, because why not?
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  Speaker 5: By the way, Austin, come on, man. You know I
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  Speaker 5: know how to use Zoom.
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  Speaker 1: What's up, man?
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  Speaker 5: He's blaming me.
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  Speaker 2: You blame me for not being here for the first
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  Speaker 2: 30 minutes.
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  Speaker 5: It wasn't me.
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  Speaker 4: Pete, we don't have to get upset, man. Like I said,
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  Speaker 4: I've had grandparents that had to show how to use Zoom, too.
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  Speaker 4: The turkey was going cold on Thanksgiving because they couldn't
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  Speaker 4: figure it out. But it's all good, man. You're here now.
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  Speaker 1: And hey. One more mess up like that would have
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  Speaker 1: put you in a home. But it's all good right now.
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  Speaker 5: It's good to see you. So you're blaming it on
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: old age. I get it. I see where you're going
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  Speaker 5: with that one.
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  Speaker 1: I'm starting to get there myself with some gray in
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  Speaker 1: my beard. We're all good.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, that Super Bowl prediction, guys, I got
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  Speaker 2: just lit up on Twitter.
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  Speaker 5: For that one.
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  Speaker 3: You had to know that was going to happen.
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  Speaker 1: You know what? I really forget.
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  Speaker 3: Jacksonville exists.
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  Speaker 1: You know what?
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  Speaker 5: From that standpoint, you're right.
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  Speaker 2: People forget that that team won 13 games last year.
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  Speaker 3: It's not even just, it's honestly like it doesn't cross
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  Speaker 3: their mind. Like I, I think some of it is,
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  Speaker 3: you know, maybe it's a little bit laziness or just
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  Speaker 3: not familiar, but like a lot of it, just people
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  Speaker 3: just don't, it doesn't come to mind.
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  Speaker 2: And where did they, here's what I'd like to ask
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  Speaker 2: the question to everybody out there.
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  Speaker 5: Where did they get worse? Just out of curiosity. Where
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: did it get worse? Well, I'm sure on paper.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: They're going to say running back and Devin Lloyd, but
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: I don't think that's a big deal. And honestly, to
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: think Devin Lloyd was going to repeat that season was
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: never going to happen anyway. So it's not a deficiency.
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  Speaker 3: And if Pete gets his way, Tootin's going to look great.
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  Speaker 5: By the way, Devin Lloyd is wearing the green dot.
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  Speaker 3: I saw that.
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  Speaker 5: In Carolina.
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  Speaker 2: He couldn't even get lined up when he was in Jacksonville.
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  Speaker 2: He had to look at a lewicon every play. Now
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  Speaker 2: he's the green dot.
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  Speaker 3: New job, new responsibilities.
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  Speaker 1: That's what they're paying him for.
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  Speaker 2: The Super Bowl prediction, and I sincerely believe that. I
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't say it if I didn't believe it.
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  Speaker 1: I'd rather be right.
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  Speaker 5: I want to be right.
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  Speaker 2: And I just think that there's so many people in
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  Speaker 2: the national media, and I saw a prediction today.
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  Speaker 5: They had Jacksonville going 8-9. Are we serious?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting.
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  Speaker 5: Are we serious? I mean, there's not one position where
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  Speaker 5: they are worse. Not one.
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  Speaker 3: Zero. It's interesting because I feel like it's, you know,
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  Speaker 3: people kind of fall into that stereotypical, like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: like we're talking. And maybe the Browns are always physical, right?
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  Speaker 3: Maybe they are. Maybe they aren't. Houston just has such
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  Speaker 3: a good defense that they automatically get, they kind of
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  Speaker 3: just lump the South off to them and I'm not
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  Speaker 3: denigrating their, their defense is phenomenal and it might even
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  Speaker 3: be better this year. They're great, but they just lump
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  Speaker 3: it off in that kind of leave it alone and
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  Speaker 3: don't even think about it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You can run at them too, by the way. You
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  Speaker 2: can run at that Texans defense.
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  Speaker 5: They're not big in the middle. And that's one thing
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  Speaker 5: you can run at them.
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  Speaker 2: And once you run at them, then you can take
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  Speaker 2: your shots in the passing game because it kind of
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  Speaker 2: neutralizes the teeing off that they do. If you get
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  Speaker 2: third and long against them, you're begging for problems.
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  Speaker 5: You're begging for it. So, yeah, they're good on defense.
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  Speaker 2: They have major problems on offense.
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  Speaker 5: And so if you look at the two teams.
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  Speaker 2: Their defense is the best unit of any of the
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  Speaker 2: four units. Jacksonville's offense is a clear number two. Jacksonville's
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  Speaker 2: defense is the number three. And I think the Texans'
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  Speaker 2: offense is the distant fourth. So the people are sleeping
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  Speaker 2: on Jacksonville's defense, too.
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  Speaker 5: That's another one. And I think you guys touched.
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  Speaker 2: On it when I was listening before when I was
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  Speaker 2: trying to get in about the secondary.
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  Speaker 5: They're going to play a lot of cornerbacks.
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  Speaker 3: A lot.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: And, I mean, four of them at times are going
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  Speaker 2: to be on the field because they can tackle. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, this is an era where you've got interchangeable
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  Speaker 2: pieces nowadays in the secondary. It won't be a shock
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  Speaker 2: to see Hunter, Jones, Lewis, and Brown all on the
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  Speaker 2: field together at the same time in a lot of situations.
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  Speaker 3: I agree.
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  Speaker 4: No, I agree with you too, P. And listen, I'm
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: not mad about the Super Bowl pick at all. And yeah,
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: you can say they won 13 games last year and everything.
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  Speaker 4: And I think people forget how that game in Denver
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: went when they played there. People have short memories and
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  Speaker 4: that's okay. But I think when you look at the NFL, Pete,
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: and you know this probably better than anybody, there's always
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: new trends, right? Like now everyone's talking about 13 personnel,
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: 12 personnel. Everyone's talking about nickel and dime, right? Like
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: that's where the NFL is going right now for every
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: single team. But what I think sets apart the Jags
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: maybe from any other team in the NFL is the
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: plan is to beat you with 12 and 13 personnel
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: running the football, whether it's with Tootin or Rodriguez, right?
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: But they can spread you out wide still with 11 personnel,
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: with three wide receivers, and beat you that way as well.
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: I think every team has an identity. You talk about
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: the Cowboys. The Cowboys would probably be a passing team.
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: You've got George Pick and CeeDee Lamb who both need targets.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: They're going to be passing the ball over the yard
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: with Dak Prescott. The Jaguars can do it both ways.
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: And there's not a lot of teams in the NFL
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: that can say they can beat you with the run
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: or they can beat you with the pass. And I
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: think that's what sets the Jaguars apart really from a
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: lot of teams in the NFL.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: And like I've told a lot of people, and I've
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: said it on this show, I told Liam Cohn this.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: He's going to have a problem because there's too many
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: mouths to feed.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: Oh, the divas are going to come out, you think?
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: I'm not saying they're divas.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: That's not Jaguar's DNA, Pete.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: That's not what we're about.
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: You know what he said, though?
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: He said that's a pleasant problem to have.
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: And I said, you're right, it is.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: Because that means you have playmakers that have to get
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: the football. But you mentioned it, Austin, if they're in
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: 13 personnel... That means one receiver's on the field. That
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: means some of those guys aren't. And I don't care
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: who you are as a wide receiver. You want to
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: be on the field.
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: You want to make catches. So you're going to have
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: some problems.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: You might not get as upset, but part of that
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: is getting Parker's deal done.
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Like, okay. Parker's going to get paid it. That's common.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's going to get, and we'll talk about that,
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: but I think Austin, you were right. You know, that
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Michael Wilson deal, that was something they were looking at.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: And so that deal gets done. The Watson deal is
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: another one. They're looking at that's done. Now he gets
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: his deal. We know it's going to come in that
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: area and he'll be a happy, happy wide receiver. But look,
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: You know what though? You talk about it. If he
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: gets his contract, I don't care. They want the ball.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: They want the, Keenan McCardell is.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: An NFL wide receivers coach in the national football league.
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: He is a great wide receivers coach. I've known him
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: a long time.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: I covered him when he was in Jacksonville and Keenan
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: would never admit this now, but John Osher will, will
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: back me up on this.
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: If Keenan caught nine for 140.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: And one and they lost, he was happier than if
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: he caught three for 22 and they won.
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: And he will deny that to no end. John Osher
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: will back me up on it, but that's the reality
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: of it. That's the way the wide receivers are. That's
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: the way they're wired.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: That's the way you want it. to be two to
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: some degree. Yes, of course.
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, listen, these are professional athletes. There's gonna
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: be some ego involved. But Pete, I mean, let's go
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: through this whole narrative real quick then. Let's talk about
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: maybe it's Parker Washington, maybe it's Jacoby Myers, maybe it's
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: Brenton Strange, maybe it's Brian Thomas Jr. I don't see
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: any of these guys going out of their way and
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: trying to make a big deal about it. Like, we've
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: seen it with, like, Jamar Chase. We've seen it with A.J.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: Brown.
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: But, like, I don't think these guys are cut from
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: that cloth. Now, maybe they're not going to be happy,
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: rightfully so. Ego plays a part of it. But there's ego,
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: and then there's ego that can lead to distraction. I
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: don't see any of these guys really causing a distraction. Like,
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: remember when you had– Yannick Ngakwe, all those years ago,
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: and he had the checkered flag and everything, then him
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: and Tony Khan were going back and forth. I don't
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: see any of these wide receivers doing that. I think
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: that's that Jaguars DNA.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: Well, you would hope that's the case. And the way
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: the team is structured right now, you would say that.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: But let's just say for the sake of the argument, again,
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying they're going to be out there publicly
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: bitching and moaning and everything else. But let's just say
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: for the sake of the argument that they're seven and
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: one and people are noticing. And yet One, a couple
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: wide receivers have, you know, not nearly the catches that
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: they thought they were going to have or the touchdowns
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: they thought they were going to have. And I guarantee you,
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: there's going to be some complaints about it inside the building.
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: Now, whether they go public with it or not, who knows?
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: But, again, if you're in 13 personnel a lot, that's
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: one wide receiver. That means that two of those guys
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: aren't on the field.
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. I don't think the Jaguars are afraid to deal
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: with that, though. I mean, there was a there was
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: a crowded running back room last year. And I think
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: there was some anger about where the carries were going.
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: And then there was a less crowded running back room.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: So I'm not saying they're trading anybody. I'm just saying. No, no, no, no.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: You're right, because Bigsby bitched and moaned about it, not
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: getting the football.
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: And he and he was shipped out.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: He did.
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: And he was shipped out. They shipped him out. But again,
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: you can't ship out Jacoby.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: You're not going to ship out, if you've signed Parker Washington,
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: you're not shipping him out. All the talk about Brian Thomas,
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: you're going to go into this season and see what.
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: He can do. Because if he's going to be what
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: he's been.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: In the preseason, you've got yourself a potential big play
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: threat down the field all the time. So I don't
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: think they're trading any of these guys. So yes, it's
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: a pleasant problem to have. And that's why you pay
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: Liam Cohen all that money to figure it out. But again,
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: I just know human nature and I know locker rooms
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: and I know players and you do too, Austin.
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: There's going to be griping.
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: Well, but here's the griping that I want to address
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: real quick. And it's with Parker Washington. Obviously, Parker Washington
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: seems like a team first guy and everything. Right now,
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: I assume they're working on a contract. Hopefully it gets
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: done before the Cleveland game. But let's say maybe it
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: takes longer than expected. Could that be a little bit
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: of an issue? Could that be a distraction? Not necessarily
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: maybe from Parker Washington, but just the whole narrative of
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: this guy gets off to a hot start, still looking
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: for a contract and doesn't have his money.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: Well, and then the flip side is, is if he's
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: not on the field as much as he was a
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: year ago at the end of last season, and he's
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: not putting up numbers and he doesn't have a new contract,
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: that's when you really get into the issue. So it's
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: in the best interest of both parties to get that
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: deal done.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: And they're both trying to get the deal done. They're close.
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: And I think they will get the deal done. But again,
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: risk on his part, risk on their part.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: When that's the, that's the scenario you have, you meet
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: in the middle, wherever you meet.
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: And you get it done. And I think ultimately they
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: will get it done before the season.
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: Well, I hope so too, because to me, it's obvious now, Pete,
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: like Mike Wilson's getting 25 a year. It's going to
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: have to be around that. And I get, we consider
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: and say, well, he hasn't proven enough and everything. Well,
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: neither really has Michael Wilson.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: And like, I think even back when I played, especially
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: a wide receiver position, it was all about like, you
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: have to have the resume. You have to put up
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: 10 touchdowns to get that type of money. You have
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: to have over a thousand yards receiving. Those days are
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: gone now at the wide receiver position. Teams will pay
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: you based off of what you could be more than
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: what you actually are right now on paper. And that
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: wasn't like that before Alex Pierce got paid, I feel like.
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: I feel like Alex Pierce single-handedly reset the market. Then
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: all of a sudden, Christian Watson's getting paid and everything.
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: And this is going to fall in that category as well.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Parker Washington.
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: We have literally maybe three quarters to half of the
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: season to go off of, of what he's been able
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: to do. And it's been miraculous what he's been able
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: to do. But you're, essentially going to pay a guy
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: a lot of money based off of hope, but that's.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: What it is now.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: He's been the best player on the field this summer
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: for them. And nobody, everybody says that you guys were
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: there a lot more than I was, but everybody says.
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: He's been the best player on the field.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: And so.
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: That means something.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: That tells you. Plus, you guys know he works at it.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: You see him there. He's there all the time. But again,
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: there's risk involved on both sides, which is why ultimately
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: I think you mentioned that number in Wilson's 25, Watson's 25.
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: I think he's going to be in that ballpark.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: I think the fact they're going to negotiate in season
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: is big because, I mean, I know we all want
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: it done as soon as possible, but also it's not
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: as much of a deadline as previously before where it
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: was like it's not done, you know, by this week.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: It's not happening. So that is good. Hopefully we all
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: will see it sooner than later.
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: Well, and also if I'm James Gladstone, it's week one
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: against Cleveland. I'm like, Hey, let's, I get he's wide
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: open in the slot, but let's, let's go to Brian
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: Thomas Jr. The way a little more here.
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: Let's try to save us a couple million.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: No, he's not. Parker Washington's going to have three touchdowns.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: What if he goes for like the first opening game?
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: He goes seven for one 30 and two touches.
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: I'm very welcome.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Do you want 25? It just went up
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: to 27. Thanks for playing.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but then the flip side is, what if they
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: win 30-3 and he goes for two for 15?
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: I mean, that's the other side of it, too.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: So there's risk on both sides, which is why I
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: think this one makes sense for both sides.
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: To get it done.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: He's so influential and such a big part of it
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: and such a hard worker. It doesn't feel like he's
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: going to slack off with any sort of contract. So
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: I think we're all hoping we're rooting for that getting
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: done sooner than later. Pete, you heard our 53. We
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: did pretty good. We only had, I think, two that
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: were off. We didn't we had we didn't have Braswell.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: We had Muhammad instead.
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: But wait a second. I was on Braswell.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: Remember, I said Muhammad was.
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: One of the boys this summer.
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: And you are correct. A training camp star.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: And then we swapped the Abdulahs.
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: What was the other one we missed?
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: We swapped Abdulahs.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: The Abdulahs. Yeah.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: And again, Abdulah, you know, I thought they would keep
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: Yaseer Abdulah, but they didn't. They kept the numbers that
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: we thought they would keep six and they kept five.
• 46:44
  Speaker 5: So that was kind of the numbers. And then the
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: running back.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: I didn't know if they would keep him. But again,
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: where's Allen? We don't know where he is in terms
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: of his injury status.
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: But we were pretty spot on, by the way. We
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: were pretty good.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: Just like I told the big fella.
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: Just like I told the big fella. I told him.
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: I said, it's not hard to cut your team right now.
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: And that was in May.
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: All right. The gang's all here. Pete, Austin, myself. We're
• 47:08
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• 47:10
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• 47:12
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• 47:14
  Speaker 3: losses for the season. We already know they're going to
• 47:16
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• 47:17
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• 47:47
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• 47:48
  Speaker 3: to talk actual football as they get prepared to take
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: on the Cleveland Browns this week. So for our opening drive,
• 47:54
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• 47:58
  Speaker 3: we touched on it a little bit, but Pete, is
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: there anything the team needs to be worried about?
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: Well, I've said this a bunch of times. I think defensively,
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: the Browns are going to be competitive. I mean, you
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: look around their defense and they have some... pretty darn
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: good football players. I mean, you mentioned verse and verse
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: can really get after the quarterback. I mean, you know,
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: it's not miles Garrett that, that much we know, but
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: he's a good player. You know, the interior guy, I
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: think Graham will be better in a second year. I
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: think Schlesinger who was great last year is going to
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: be really good this year. You know, the corner, you know,
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: Ward's a really good player. They have some guys on
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: the backend that are pretty good. Delpit's a good player
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: as well. So defensively, I think they're going to be
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: a problem. Not for Jacksonville so much, because I think
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: Jacksonville will get off to a good start. I think
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: they'll dictate the tempo and throw the ball around. But
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: I think for a lot of teams, they're going to
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: keep them in games. The problem is, offensively, I think
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: they're really limited. When your quarterback is limited, your team
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: is limited. I do know they love Judkins, the running back.
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: They really do.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: They think he's going to be special. And some of
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: those young receivers can go.
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: They have some.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: Concepcion's been really good this summer. Austin is a big
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: physical guy. You know, Judy drops too many passes, but
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: he's a good player. But I worry about their offensive line.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: You mentioned that they're all new guys up there. There's
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: some youth up there. There's a left tackle who's, you know.
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: A rookie. That's going to be, that could be a problem.
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: But I think defensively, they're going to be a problem
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: for teams. I just don't think they're going to be
• 49:28
  Speaker 5: a problem for Jacksonville on Sunday.
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: Well, that's a good thing for Jacksonville fans. We're going
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: to check in with a co-pilot. We touched on this earlier.
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: Brought to you by Microsoft. But what is quarterback Deshaun
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: Watson's record as a starter versus the Jacksonville Jaguars? Because
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: I've seen some stuff on social media, and we just
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: wanted to get everything straight so no one panics. But...
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson's official record as a starter versus the Jaguars
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: is 7-0. The 2017 week one loss doesn't count because
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: he didn't start that game. Pete, this is not the
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson of old, though, so Jaguars fans probably shouldn't
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: be that scurred.
• 50:03
  Speaker 5: No, he's not.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: I think he's, look, he's better than the other guy,
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: but not much better. And they settled on him because
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: he's the veteran quarterback making the start on the road.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: He's limited in driving the ball down the field. He
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: doesn't move like he used to move. I mean, there's
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: a lot of things at play here. that make him different. But,
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: but also, you know, you mentioned the seven and over him,
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: but when was the last time Jackson.
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: They haven't beat the Browns.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: I don't think since when, like 2017 or something.
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: I saw, I know they lost in 24. Cause Deshaun
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: came here. It was really rainy. They lost that game.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: That was a bad season.
• 50:35
  Speaker 5: 23.
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: We lost at Cleveland. And then, yeah, it, they, it's
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: been a minute.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: It's been a while.
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: They've had bad history against that team. I mean, they,
• 50:44
  Speaker 5: they used to be a division rival back in the day.
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: But again, again, The team, Cleveland will be feisty. They're
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: just not good enough because the quarterback position is not
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: good enough. But they've had two years of really good drafts.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: I think they've done a nice job with their draft.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: And so when they do get their quarterback next year,
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: he's going to step into a situation with a lot
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: of good young players going from year one to year two,
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: year two to year three. And then you got a
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: guy like Burse who's, you know, been in now twice.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: This is four or three. And so I think this
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: is a team moving in the right direction.
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: They just have to get the quarterback.
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: Who are you looking forward to seeing in week one?
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: In terms of?
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: Sorry, for the Jags. Because we haven't really seen the
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: starters play real football in a very long time. So
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: I'm kind of excited to see what this running back
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: room shakes out to be because they talk so much
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: about it. But who are you looking forward to seeing, Pete?
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: Well, Tootin, I want to see him get the ball.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: And again, I think it's going to be one of
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: those situations where the guy who's hot is going to
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: get the ball. And so it might be Tootin one game.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: It might be Rodriguez one game. If you want grinding,
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: you get Rodriguez. If you want big play, you get Tootin.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: I think it's going to be that kind of thing
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: for them.
• 51:54
  Speaker 5: But I want to see.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: Tootin because I think speed is such a premium in
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: this league now.
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: You get a guy who can run like that, I
• 52:01
  Speaker 5: think it matters a lot.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: So I want to see him on the offensive side
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: of the ball. And on the defensive side of the ball,
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: it's all about Travis Hunter. I mean, it's all him.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: It's what does he do? You know, they play a
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: lot of different man coverages. You see, they're changing some
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: of the things they do on the back end. I
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: do think there's going to be a lot of corners
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: on the field when you can play man with him
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: on one side and don't.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: It up on the other.
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: I think that helps you. I can't wait to see
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: what he does. And then there's the, what are you
• 52:25
  Speaker 5: going to do on offense? Cause they keep saying, people
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: have the national.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: Media has made a cottage industry of evaluating what they're
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: going to do with Travis Hunter.
• 52:35
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's amazing. And he gets mad about it.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: And, you know, rightfully so because everybody's been wrong. Nobody
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: has any idea what he's going to do. He's going
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: to play wide receiver. He's going to be a full-time corner,
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: but he's going to get on the field at wide receiver. Yeah.
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't like copying anybody's homework, but it's
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: the same two guys for me.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: It's too.
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: And just because, you know, we've heard about the speed, right. And, and,
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: to make this offense go, he has to be the guy. Like, yes,
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: I'm a big Chris Rodriguez believer from the physicality, from
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: running between the tackles, but if you want this offense
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: to reach what they're supposed to be and to reach
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: that elite level, then Tootin's got to show up, right?
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: And so I'm excited to see if they can use
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: his speed, whether it's in the run game or some
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: sort of pass game as well.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: And then on the other side, like Pete says, I mean...
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: To me, it's the most.
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: Important player on this Jaguars defense. And that's no disrespect
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: to Josh Heinzown or Trayvon Walker or Foye Luke because
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: they're all important as well. But to run this coach
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: camp defense, what they really want to do, you want
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: to play man coverage on one side and you want
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: to go zone and exotic looks on the other side.
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: And to be able to do that, you need a
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: shutdown corner. And Travis Hunter can be that guy. So
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: I'm excited to see. And yeah, maybe sprinkle him on
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: here or there in the red zone to an offense, whatever.
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: Make all the fantasy football people happy. But I'm really
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: excited to see how he matched up with guys like me,
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: like Jerry Judy. I don't know if you put him
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: on fan in a little bit, but I think the
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: sky's the limit this year for Travis Hunter on defense.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: You know, the other part of this whole thing is
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: justifying the trade.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's a good point.
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, cause right now, if you, if you graded
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: that trade, you would give it a D or a C,
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: you know?
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, just on the surface. Cause you moved up,
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: you traded picks, you gave up first round picks to
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: go get them. So he has to be a shutdown corner.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: When you make that move to go get him, Travis
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: Hunter has to be in the Patrick Sertan, Christian Gonzalez,
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: Sauce Gardner when he's at his best conversation. Because that's
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: who you traded up to go get him.
• 54:37
  Speaker 5: He has to be that. Now, I think he can
• 54:40
  Speaker 5: be that.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: I think he's a premium athlete and has great ball
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: skills and knows how to play the position.
• 54:46
  Speaker 5: So he can be that.
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: But more than anything, he has to be, you made
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: the move to go get him at all.
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: Eyeballs were on you to go make that move.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: What do you call them?
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: What did, what was the wording that Gladstone used when
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: he said that when he made, I don't remember how
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: exactly he said he's going to come in and change
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: the game. Well, a shutdown corner doesn't change the game.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: They've been around for years and years and years, which
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: means he has to be more than that, which is
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: why I think he's going to play offense. And again,
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: you go back to the last game he played last
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: year as a wide receiver against the Rams.
• 55:25
  Speaker 5: Over a hundred and a touch.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: He started to look like a real elite wide receiver
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: in that game.
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: Well, there's a couple of storylines to keep in mind.
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: Tyson Campbell is with the Cleveland Browns, a guy that
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: the Jaguars traded away. He's like their number two corner
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: right now. So I'm sure he's probably feels a certain
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: type of way about playing in this game as well
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: this Sunday.
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: So throw it that way.
• 55:44
  Speaker 5: And Todd Monken was a Jaguar coach.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: He was a coach.
• 55:47
  Speaker 5: I mean, there's another one. So yeah, there, there are
• 55:50
  Speaker 5: a lot of storylines here.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: And by the way, When I made my Super Bowl prediction,
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: I think Trevor Lawrence is going to be in the
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: MVP conversation, by the way.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: Are we locking some things? Is that what you wanted?
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: Are we locking?
• 56:04
  Speaker 5: No, we're not locking. We locked the Super Bowl pick.
• 56:07
  Speaker 5: I mean, come on. I locked the Super Bowl pick.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: Are you not going to lock the Cleveland game?
• 56:11
  Speaker 5: Oh, I'll lock the Cleveland game.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 56:13
  Speaker 5: Are you going to double lock? Are you double locking it?
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: Can we get a hard push on me real quick?
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: Hard push on the camera. Can we do that or not? Yeah,
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: a hard push. Yeah.
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: Oh, I'm locking number one. And number two, I'm coming
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: for the joggers this year. I'm still owed a three-quarter
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: zip last year from Lululemon. And now I want a
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: pair of joggers this year when I go three in
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: a row again.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: All right, put it in the record books. It's there.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: Excellent producing back there.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: Are we going to make it a three.
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: In a row lock?
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: Are three the bad locks? I thought triple locks were bad.
• 56:45
  Speaker 5: Whenever JP jumped in, it went rotten.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: Who's that?
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: Who's that guy?
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: Who am I talking about? We got him on the co-pilot.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: He's gone. His consciousness is gone.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: If you see him on Twitter, all you do, he's
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: bragging about every movie he makes in Arizona.
• 57:02
  Speaker 5: Oh, my God, they have mountains here. Oh, my God.
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: I'm just glad he's wearing sunscreen, guys. I was just
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: making sure he's wearing a sunscreen. I was a little concerned.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, on the top of his head, too. No, look,
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: I'm locking that. And I already, come on, I went
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: out with the biggest lock of all time, picking the
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: Jaguars to.
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: Win the Super Bowl. This is the time when we
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: break curses. Let's triple lock it. I think we need to.
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: This is it. Week one is a triple lock.
• 57:28
  Speaker 5: You know what that is? You just threw dirt on
• 57:30
  Speaker 5: the grave. No, we're moving on.
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: He's not going to haunt us anymore.
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: You asked for his cleats. I mean, come on.
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: He's not going to haunt us. None of that. I'm
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: just excited to get this back rolling, actually have something
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: to talk about in terms of real football to watch.
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: But more than anything, like we said, listen, Jaguars are
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: never going to get their spec they deserve. We know that. Yada, yada, yada.
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: But this is a tougher schedule, so I'm excited to
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: see them face off against maybe some names that people
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: will at least pay a little bit more attention to.
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: And it's a must-win week one, in my opinion, because
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: of what you've got coming up after that. And I
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: want us to pick a little bit through the schedule
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: what we think the records are going to be. So
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: we've obviously already locked week one, which is a dub.
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: But then we have Broncos on the road again, Patriots
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: at home, and Bengals on the road. So what do
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: we think wins, losses there?
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: I'm going to say they win at Denver. I'm going
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: to say they beat New England. I'm going to say
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: they lose at Cincinnati. So 3-1.
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: See, it's interesting because I have 3-1 as well, but
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: I think it's a little different. I think the Denver
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: game is going to be a hard one. I think
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: they lose at Denver, they beat New England, and then
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: they finally beat the curse at Cincinnati.
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: I'm with Austin, too. I think Broncos might be a
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: little tough just because I know it's so hard to
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: play there. And the reason they played so well, I think,
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: in that last game as a guy that we want
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: to give a contract to, Parker Washington was kind of
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: a game changer really early and got the crowd out
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: of it. And it was like just over from the
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: start there. So for me, same thing. But Bengals are
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: so hit or miss early in the season for me.
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: You never really know what they're going to look like.
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: It feels like it always takes them a little while
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: to get everything going. So Bengals. but we all agree
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: on three and one. So let's just call that we're
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: doing a collective effort here. But I'll keep an eye
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: on things that obviously Pete thinks they're going to do
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: OK in Denver. But let's look after that. So then
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: it's going to be there. They're heading out across the ocean.
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: They got two again in London. So it'll be against
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: the Eagles at Tottenham. And then at Wembley, they will
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: face off against the Texans, which is going to be
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: big for me. And then bye week. And then they'll
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: play the Colts. So what do we think about that
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: chunk of schedule?
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: Go ahead, Austin.
• 59:42
  Speaker 5: You go first. I want to hear you.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So the Eagles game to me is a coin flip.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go with that. They lose to the
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: Eagles and they beat the Texans.
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: And then the Colts never went to Jacksonville. So you
• 59:59
  Speaker 5: could just, that was a given.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I didn't even know. I asked that.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Come on.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: That's, I mean, we don't have to lock in right now,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: but I think they went all three of those games.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: Three.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: No, I think the Eagles have some issues that people
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: are kind of just glossing over, starting with the quarterback
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: and the passing game and the new offense and, and
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: some offensive line injuries that have been plaguing them over
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: the last couple of years. And, and the pressure of,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: of boy, they, you know, there's some heat on the coach.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: I just think there's a lot of issues there. So
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: I think they win that game. I, I think they're
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: better than the Texans. And then I think they, they
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: all look, the Colts could come in with Peyton.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 5: Manning and gang all over again. They still beat them
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 5: again at home.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: Something about it. Something about the Colson Jacksonville.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: What do you have to, that's.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: My tough stretch. Cause I'm of, I'm of the thought
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: process of their records going to be worse, but they're
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: going to be a better team. And I think they'll
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: make a deeper playoff run, but I don't, think they're
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: going to be 13-4 again.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 5: No, I don't either.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: For me, I would say one win in London at
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: max because I don't think... Division ones are hard, especially
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: the first matchup of the season. So I would say
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: probably two and one if I was going to err
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: on that. I think they'll lose at least one of
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: the London games.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: I would probably say if I was being more of
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: a realist, it'd be probably more two and one.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 5: But I don't think I think they're capable of beating
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 5: those teams.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: The thing would be if it's too bad that game
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: against the Texans isn't in Jacksonville.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 5: That should be in Jacksonville.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: That's the big one for me. It's location. And listen,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: it's not new to them, but you lose a little
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: bit of the edge of being at home and home, home.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: And I think that's part of it. And then you
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: get into this weird stretch when they come back where
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: they're on the road a ton, right? So after that
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: Colts game, when they come back, it's at the Ravens
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: for Thursday night football, at the Titans, at the Giants,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: and then home again against the Titans. And listen, the Titans...
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: will be better because by default, I hope they'll be
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: better than what they were last year. They're not going
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: to be tough, but it's a divisional matchup. And those
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: are always difficult games to decide that even in bad years,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: they find a way. Same way the Jaguars were terrible
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: and they'd find a way to beat the Titans. It's just,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: those I think can be a little bit of a
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: bugaboo there. I don't know what the Giants are going
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: to look like. Pete, what do you think the Giants
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: are going to look like? I honestly am just like,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: it's confusing to me. Like having Harbaugh up there, it
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: looks weird. The colors are wrong to me. I'm just like,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: it just seems strange.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: I saw them work out with Miami and they beat
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: the daylights out of Miami that day. I mean, they
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: just physically, no, Miami's not a good team, but they physically,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: they can get after the quarterback.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: They're bringing that Ravens physicality up there from like what
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: Harbaugh's team was like.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 5: They can get after the quarterback. I mean, they can
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 5: rush the quarterback.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: The problem is, I don't know if they're going to
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: be good enough stopping the run. The interior of that
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: defense is, you know, with Lawrence not there, they're not
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: very good on the interior. So if you run on them,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: that kind of neutralizes the pass rush a little bit.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: And then it's all on Dart. I mean, Dart's got
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: to be, you know, they got to take the next step.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: I think that that little stretch there, And it went,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: what'd you say? When it went at Baltimore, I think
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: they lose to the Ravens on Thursday and they win
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: the other three.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: They're at Baltimore. Then they go to Nashville to play
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: the Titans. They're at the giants. So there's three away
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: in a row. Then they're back home against the Titans. So.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 5: And then what's that last one? The bears.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: Oh, then they're at the bears. Yeah. That one I
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: think is going to be tough early December.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 5: I think they go three and two in that stretch.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: So hang on Pete, you haven't losing to the Ravens,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: the bears and who else?
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 5: Oh, no.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: Okay. Gotcha. Okay. Yeah.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: And I have the same way. I think they, I
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: think that's fair. I think they can take care of
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: business against the Titans. And I'm not sure if Jackson
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: don't be healthy by week 11.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: Now we're going to close things out.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 5: They could win that bears game, by the way. I mean,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 5: I don't think that bears.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: I don't think that bears defense is that good. So
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: they could win that game too. But I'll say three
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: and two.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: Okay, we'll go three and two there. Now we've got
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: Steelers Monday Night Football, which I'm just excited for Monday
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: Night Football in Jacksonville anytime. And obviously against the Steelers
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: will be good. Go to Houston. Then you're in Texas
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: back-to-back weeks, actually. You're in the Texans, and then you
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: go back to Dallas for Sunday Night Football, which... If
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: your Super Bowl Super Bowl preview is going to be electric,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: a Christmas gift to us all. And then commanders, they
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: don't have a date on it yet. And Colts will
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  Speaker 3: be obviously they kind of do the game times closer
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: to playoff implications and whatnot. That Colts game at the
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: end of the season hopefully doesn't matter, but that's always
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  Speaker 3: tricky with them on the road. I this is this
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: is what do we think here? One, two, three.
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead, Austin.
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  Speaker 5: I want to hear yours.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm going to say it. So usually, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: this happens with every team in the NFL. You're going
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: to lose a game that you're supposed to win. And
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: I think that's shaping up to possibly be the Steelers game. Like,
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  Speaker 4: I expect them to be favorites at home Monday night football.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: You know, Aaron Rodgers maybe coming to the stadium in
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 4: a walker. I'm not sure yet. But at the end
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  Speaker 4: of the day, I just, for whatever reason, I feel
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  Speaker 4: like the Steelers might get them here. So I got
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 4: the Steelers beating them. I have them losing. I haven't
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: gone to a game losing streak. Then they're going to
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  Speaker 4: lose the Texans in Houston. Um, I think the Dallas
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: game is going to be tough as well. And then
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: they rebound the last two games of the season, assuming
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: that that Colts game actually means something. So, um, through
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  Speaker 4: this stretch of the season, I actually have them going
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: two and three.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: I haven't beat, I haven't gone three and two. I
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: think they can, I think they, they beat the Steelers.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: I don't think the Steelers are going to be that
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: good by that time. I think they, they lose the Texans.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: They lose the Cowboys, although that's a winnable game. It
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: just depends on where Dallas's defense is at that time. Um,
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  Speaker 2: And then they beat the Commanders and they beat the Colts.
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  Speaker 2: So I have them going 3-2.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Let's see if I can do some math here. So
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: if we have three losses, five losses, six. If we
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: go 3-0 with that little London trip, then it's six losses. Otherwise,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: it would be six. seven is what we have. And
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: that's what I mean with, I'm not.
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  Speaker 5: That's what you guys have. I didn't have him have
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  Speaker 5: his seven.
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  Speaker 3: Well, of course he has all the crowd. I had him.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 5: I had him. I don't, I'm with you though.
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  Speaker 3: Kai.
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  Speaker 2: I think they're going to have, they're not going to
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  Speaker 2: have as many wins.
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  Speaker 5: They're going to be a better team. I've said that
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  Speaker 5: all along.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that's, to me, in my opinion, I
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: think sometimes that's beneficial when you come to post-season time,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: cause you're a little more, and I'm not saying this
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: is the exact situation, but you know, the Patriots had
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: an easy schedule and then they get in there and
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: they're like, not able to get it. after it when
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: it's a truly tough matchup.
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  Speaker 5: I think they'll win 11 games. I think they'll win
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 5: 11 games.
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  Speaker 3: 11-6 then?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Or maybe 12-5.
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  Speaker 3: I'm with 11-6.
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  Speaker 2: I'm cool with it.
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  Speaker 3: 12-5.
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  Speaker 5: By the way, that'll win the division.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: If you look at the Texans' schedule, the Texans' schedule
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: is brutal, by the way, too.
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  Speaker 1: It's tough.
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  Speaker 5: So I think they'll win the division 11-6.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: And then I think the Texans will make the playoffs.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 5: I think those two teams are both making the playoffs,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 5: by the way.
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  Speaker 3: I think they're certainly capable. Cause I mean, when you
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: look at the AFC, who's, I.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 5: Mean, I had it. I had it.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: The Bengals winning the North.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 5: I have the Broncos winning the West.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: I have Jacksonville winning the South and I have the
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  Speaker 2: East to Buffalo.
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  Speaker 5: I have new England missing the playoffs. So that that's
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 5: your four teams.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: Then I have the Texans in, I have, The Ravens in,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: and then I had the Chiefs in. I had the
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: Chargers missing, which a lot of people are surprised at.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: Prove it to me, Chargers. It's the same story every year.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: They get the opposite of what Jacksonville gets. They get
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: all of the upside. It's going to be great. They
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: get the positive spin. It's just always going to be
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: great without any proof of product, in the playoffs at least.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: What are the Ravens actually going to look like, Pete?
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: Sorry you mentioned them. I'm curious what that's going to be.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 5: It'll be interesting to see what changes.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: Well, the offense is going to be different. You know,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: it's a different style of offense and that's going to change.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: So it'll be interesting to see how they evolve. I
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: think defensively, if the young pass rushers, you know, they
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: have a lot of guys they drafted.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 5: If they show up.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: You know, Mike Green and, you know, those kind of guys,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: if they show up and become factors, then they're going
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: to be pretty good on defense. But again, Matt Abiki's
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: coming off a major injury.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 5: We don't know where he's going to be all year.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 5: That's big to them.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: If he's not on the field, a lot of guys
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: didn't play well for them last year. And I think
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: a change at coach. is a good thing for them.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: Even though Harbaugh's been a good football coach, sometimes it
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: gets stale and the message gets old. So it might
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: be good to get him out of there and get
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: Jesse Vanderen. I think they're going to be a good team.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they're necessarily going to be a
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: great team. I think they'll be a good team. But
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: when Jacksonville plays on Thursday night, that place, that's going
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: to be rocking.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: It's going to be awesome. A lot of primetime matchups
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: this season, so I'm looking forward to them all. Stay
• 1:08:37
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• 1:08:40
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  Speaker 3: We're breaking it all down. We're talking a little bit
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: about week one, what we think the schedule is going
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: to look like. And we talked a little bit about
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: this in the last hour, but I wanted to bring
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: it back up because it's time to keep it real.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: Presented by ServPro like it never even happened. Parker Washington's contract,
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: we hope, is a matter of when and not if.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: But we did mention, of course, before that hopefully some
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: of these other wide receiver deals are getting done that
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: maybe that means Parker's is getting done sooner. Michael Wilson.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, to me, the, the Michael Wilson one was
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 4: the big domino, right? Because you can sit there and
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: look at what Zay Flowers got paid and everything. And
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 4: even what Christian Watson got paid.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: They're not good comps necessarily.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 4: They're not great comps because to me, they're, they're true
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 4: number one receivers and you have an offense in Jacksonville.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 4: You don't have to be necessarily the guy week in
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 4: and week out. They need Christian Watson to be the
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 4: guy in green Bay.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: Obviously Zay Flowers, the same.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 4: So, Once Michael Wilson got his contract, where, yeah, I
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 4: get he was heavily used last year, heavily targeted, but
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 4: they still have Marvin Harrison Jr. They have Trey McBride,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: who is probably the most targeted tight end next to
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: Brock Bowers in the NFL. So there's other pieces there.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: So to me, it was the ultimate comparison, right? So
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: you see three years, $ 75 million. If I'm Parker's people,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 4: I'm just like, we can sit here and go back
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: and forth. I can just point to what Michael Wilson
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 4: got and say, it's got to be close to that.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: Michael Wilson's had more. Catch has been more productive in
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: his time there, so I can argue that the other way, too.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: But I think that number is about right. I really do. Now,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: will he get to that exact number? He might just
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: be behind it or something, but I think that's the ballpark.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: And I do think it gets– did you see he
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: tweeted out a picture of him and his agent today?
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: It was last night, and everyone was like, wait, it's
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: going to drop today. It's going to drop today. And
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: as of– this five 26 hour on a Monday. It
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: has not dropped yet, but we'll let you know.
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  Speaker 5: No, but that's a good sign that he's here. That
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 5: means they're negotiating in person. That usually means something's going
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  Speaker 5: to get done.
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  Speaker 3: Get a little closer to the real deal.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And again, he wants to get it done. They want
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: to get it done. They started way apart. Um, and
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: you know, they've kind of come together and I think
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: it's really close right now. And then, and I think it, Ultimately,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: it's in the best interest of both sides to get
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: it done.
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  Speaker 5: There's risk on both sides.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: The number could go up if you're Jacksonville, though you
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: could always tag him next year, by the way, if
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: you wanted to.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 5: They have that in their back pocket.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: What's that tag going to be?
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it'll be hefty, but they still could do it, though.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: It gives you more time, I guess.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And so from his standpoint.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: you know, there's always the risk if you don't put
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: up the numbers that you did a year ago, or
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: God forbid, if something happened to you.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 5: So I think they'll ultimately, they'll get it done. And
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 5: I think it'll get done before this. I think it'll
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 5: get done.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't surprise me if Wednesday they came in and
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: they said, Parker Washington has the new deal and everybody's
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: all over him and half, you know, and then next
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: thing you go out to practice.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. No, and that's the thing too.
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  Speaker 4: People fail to realize when a player gets paid, everyone
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 4: in that.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: Locker room would be happy. We all would.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 5: I remember when.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 4: Josh Scobie got his contract, we were blasting Aston Martin
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 4: music by Rick Ross.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: We're all celebrating.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: Here I am making the rookie minimum, just trying to
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 4: get by on player performance bonuses, and Josh Scobie gets
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 4: millions and millions of dollars, but we.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: Couldn't have been happier for him.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 4: So I think in terms of just like a little–
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 4: motivating shift if you want like a little extra incentive
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 4: like yeah go go ahead and pay before that browns.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: Game yeah i think the important thing to remember is
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: like sometimes contracts can get really you know animus and
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: angry and like have bad there's none of that it's
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: more just like all right we'll figure it's just like
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: a feeling of we'll figure it out that's the vibe
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: it gives if you want to put it that way.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 4: Pete is it the same way for you with the
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 4: paramount plus stuff that people get happy for you when
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: you got the new contract or not or people bitter
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 4: about it.
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  Speaker 5: Um No, they would be happy.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 5: They would be happy.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: There you go. I'd be happy for you.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: We're always happy for Pete.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: When your MVP gets a new contract, you're happy about that.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: So kind of MVP.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: So modest, this guy. He's just like a receiver.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 5: Give me the ball. Give me the damn ball.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: Give him the damn ball.
• 1:13:09
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  Speaker 3: some fan questions our first of the regular season so
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  Speaker 3: we're going to get into those and tell you what
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 3: we got for answers. So first off, Tartan Teal, he
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  Speaker 3: wants to know how confident are we as a collective
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: feeling about the O-line holding up against the Browns' pass rush? Pete,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: you worried at all? They're all in different spots now.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: No, I think that's one of the units that's being
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: undersold when people evaluate the Jaguars.
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  Speaker 5: I really do.
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  Speaker 2: Now, we don't know what Van Lan is going to
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: be like right off the get-go. So there's some concern there.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: But I think Harrison at left tackle looks natural.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 5: You know I'm a big believer in Pregnan. He's a mauler.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: Those two guys get off the bus. You have two
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: giant guys over there. They look like a left side
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: of an offensive line. The center, look, productive player, smart.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: The right guard's playing for.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 5: A new contract. He wants a new contract, so he's
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 5: going to play his butt off. And then it's Van Lannen.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 5: And Van Lannen was good last year, and I think
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 5: Van Lannen.
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  Speaker 2: Better at right tackle. So I'm not worried about the
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: offensive line like some people are.
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  Speaker 5: I'm just not.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and honestly, I don't really get where the worry
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 4: necessarily comes from. Like, okay, if you want to go
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 4: over the last half of the season in terms of
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 4: running the football, it wasn't their MO, fine. But, like,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 4: how many people are so focused on, oh, their offensive
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 4: line wasn't good at run blocking?
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: Like, last time I checked, Trevor Lawrence was an MVP candidate.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 4: He had good receivers, sure, but I think that offensive
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 4: line had a part of it, too, especially when Colvin
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: Lanning came in. So, yeah, I'm not worried necessarily in
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 4: the pass game for sure keeping Trevor Lawrence upright. We'll
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 4: see what the run game looks like because, once again,
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 4: I think it's a little unproven right now based on
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 4: what we saw towards the end of last season. But
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 4: as far as keeping Trevor upright against the Cleveland Browns,
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 4: I'm not too worried about it.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, I thought that Liam Cohen had some
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: really nice comments about Pregnant today. I don't know if
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: you guys saw them, but about– I mean– You don't
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: talk about rookie guards like that usually. And he's, look,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: he's square, he's powerful, and he will move people in
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: the run game.
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  Speaker 3: And I think he's been impressed with him for quite
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: some time. And obviously with the injury situation during the
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: training camp, probably saw him earlier than maybe expected to be,
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 3: but he's certainly made a case for himself and he's
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: going to start in week one. Pretty exciting for a
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: rookie to get out there. Obviously a little learning curve
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: as always, but I think he'll be all right. Our
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: second question is about the safeties, which we've talked about,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: the backup safeties. How confident are you guys with the
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: backup safeties, Husky or Ransaw? Could one of the corners
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: play safety if needed?
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: Well, you have, I mean, look, again, you have two
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: veterans back there, Murray and Johnson, who are good players.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 5: And then the other two are just much more athletic players.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 5: You know, they're the young athletic guys. If you had to.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: Play those guys, their athletic ability would probably show up more,
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: but you might get some assignment misses and some head spinning.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 5: That's the difference. Because, you know, Ransom's technically a rookie,
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 5: even though he knew.
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  Speaker 3: He was around last year. I think for all intents
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: and purposes, they treat it like that as well. Yeah.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 5: So those are two rookies. They're athletic.
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  Speaker 2: But again, ideally, you'd like to see maybe midway through
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: the season, see one of those guys start taken time
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: away from maybe a veteran.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 5: And maybe it's Murray, but.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: You'd like to see Ransaw's athletic ability when he starts
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: understanding what it takes to play the position, maybe standing
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: out and getting him on the field a little more.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and to me, you're going to see one of
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 4: these guys, I think, a little bit in terms of
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 4: dime packages and stuff, but they do bring in three safeties, right?
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 4: So it's not like they're not just going to be
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 4: on the sidelines the whole time. You expect to see
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 4: them a little bit. Husky is definitely the bigger dude.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 4: He looks more like a safety to me. Ransaw, obviously,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 4: I think he has the speed to his advantage. I
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 4: think with Ransaw, it's just getting his reps in. It's
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 4: getting more confidence in terms of... Diagnosing and not having
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 4: your head in a beehive as Quincy Williams referred to
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 4: it his rookie year here out of Murray State and
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 4: Jacksonville Pro into the New York Jets but I will
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 4: say this much I'm judging Caleb Ransall closely because to
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 4: me that is the and I get you drafted Travis
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 4: Hunter and everything so like that was the exciting pick.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 4: But to me, the Caleb Ransaw pick in James Gladstone,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 4: that was the first time that he kind of went
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 4: against the grain a little bit, against the consensus boards,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 4: and kind of had a vision, right? You take a
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 4: cornerback and you put him at safety. You had Xavier
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 4: Watts that was available. Yeah, but he wasn't really a cornerback.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: He played like a dime. He played a dime. He
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: played like a linebacker at times. He played a lot
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: of spots there.
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  Speaker 4: But my only point is I thought Xavier Watts was
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 4: the home run pick there.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: He ends up going to Atlanta and Xavier.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, he was the safer pick and.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 4: He was the consensus pick a two time All-American. The
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 4: only other guy that did that was Travis Hunter. Right.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 4: Like to me, it made the most sense. They go
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 4: with Caleb Ransom instead. Watts goes to Atlanta and they
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 4: really I mean, you probably know better than I do,
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: but I feel like they like Watts a lot with
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 4: what he's doing there.
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  Speaker 1: With the Falcons and everything.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: Oh, they do.
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  Speaker 5: They like him a lot.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 5: But Ransom was on a better than team, though.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: Remember?
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 5: He was another one that I pushed him to take.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: Well, so this is all your fault, then. And I
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: get it.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 5: Blame me.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: At least we have someone to point a finger at.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: I got you.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: I think that's... a young room it's they're gonna need
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: time you're talking about this they may be in the
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: wrong spot hopefully they're athletic enough to get to where
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 3: they need to be when they realize they've made a
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: mistake uh antonio johnson was kind of like that for
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: me his rookie years first two years really super athletic
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 3: you saw the ability and listen he was dealing with
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: a lot of other stuff coordinators and otherwise i know
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: trying to learn that way but he's really flourished and
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: hopefully I think also Matt Arujo who's joined the team
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: from the Dolphins used to work with Anthony Campanile he's
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 3: like mini camp works with them very diligently so I'm
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 3: expecting a lot of growth out of that group as
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: a whole as the season moves along let's move along
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 3: I think I don't know if I wrote this one
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 3: all the way out from Peter what are the three
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: most important factors for the Jaguars to get off to
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 3: a hot start this season let's all pick one take
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 3: one who wants to.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: Go first You go first. You're talking about me?
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 4: Oh, then I'm going to take the low-hanging fruit. I mean,
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 4: it's the run game. If this offense wants to go,
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 4: they have to run the football. When you're talking 12
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 4: and 13 personnel running the football, setting up play action,
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 4: getting Trevor Lawrence on that boot and finding the open guy,
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 4: that's what has to happen. I don't think you want
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence passing the ball 40 to 45 times a game,
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 4: even though he's capable of doing that. But to see
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 4: the full arsenal of this offense... You have to run
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 4: the football. So establish the physicality, run the football.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: All right, Pete, what you got?
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to say this because I'm not wrong
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: that much. I was wrong about Trayvon Walker.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 5: And I'm going to sit here and say this.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: And what did you say and what were you wrong about?
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: Look, should he still have been picked over at Hutchinson?
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: Probably not. If you want a dynamic pass rusher, no.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: But Trayvon Walker is a damn good football player who
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: doesn't get the due he deserves, including by people like
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: myself early in his career. The more he plays, the
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: more I appreciate what he does as a football player.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: And he was hurt last year. So the numbers were down.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: He played with, what, one hand and whatever and everything else. Yeah,
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: he had every malady in the world. I think Trayvon
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: Walker might be the guy that takes this defense to
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: the next step this year. He can do so many
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: things for that defense. And I think that they rush
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: him inside. His sack numbers are going to be higher
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: than what we think they're going to be. So I
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: think Trayvon Walker might be the X factor for the
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: entire defense and what he can do. We know Heinz
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: Allen can do what he does. But if they get
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: that production from Trayvon Walker, wow, wow, wow, the pass rush,
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: which is a concern, will be that much better.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 3: We've been talking about moving him inside for forever and ever.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 3: We might actually see it now.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 5: He's a better rusher inside, Kai. I mean, look at him.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 5: He's so much better.
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  Speaker 3: No, they refuse to.
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  Speaker 4: Even when he had essentially one working arm or hand
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 4: or whatever, I mean, he was still doing all the
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 4: dirty work.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: That's what people don't talk about either.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 4: Like, you want to talk about a team that was
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 4: number one in stopping the run, and yes, Devon Hamilton played.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: A big part of that.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 4: But when they bumped down Trayvon Walker to that four-eye,
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 4: and he's kind of two-gapping essentially with two hands in
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 4: the ground, like... Not every single first overall pick defensive
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 4: end wants to do that. And not every single first
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 4: overall pick at defensive end would do that. Right. But
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 4: I think it speaks volumes in terms of he bought
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 4: it in the process. He trusted the process and he
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 4: was doing the dirty work.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: And guess what? That defense flourished because he was willing
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: to do the dirty work.
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  Speaker 5: He's the best run playing defensive end in the NFL.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 5: In my mind. He's the best run playing. And look,
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 5: you don't make.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: Millions to be a run defender at defensive end. But
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: that's why I think his pass rush now, when that
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: starts to come where it should be, and he's been
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: decent at times when he's been healthy, but if he
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: can rush inside and get you the production, the sack
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: production from the inside and play the run on the
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: outside and on the inside, I think that gives you
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: what you need. And I think he's going to have
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: a good year, a really good year this year.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 5: I'm on record as saying that.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: Pete, we're in the same mindset because my thought immediately
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 3: was if they want to like really get off to
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 3: a hot start, it's going to have to be something
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 3: on the defense. I think the offense will figure itself out.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 3: I have very little concern about that. It's just what
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 3: it's going to look like. They need to turn the
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: pressures into actual sacks because that's where they get in trouble. It's, oh,
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 3: we're pressuring. Well, they're still throwing. They're still getting the
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 3: first down. So that's great. But we need to turn
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 3: this into actual sacks. And by moving Trayvon inside a
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 3: little bit more. Also, I'll give credit where credit is due.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: Eric Armstead had a phenomenal training camp. And he has looked.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: And if he is healthy and playing his best, he
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: can be a huge difference maker in the middle for
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 3: them where they've lacked pressure consistently. They've got all these
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 3: young guys they can sub in on the edge. And that,
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 3: turning that into actual sacks, getting the stat numbers up,
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: and actually stopping some of these offenses. I think Deshaun
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: Watson doesn't have that mobility anymore. Hopefully he can get
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: that going early. And Boatnick's come back from injury. Like,
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 3: there's opportunity here. And I would like to see that
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: sooner than later, just to know that they are capable
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 3: of getting there, getting to the quarterback and finishing. Also,
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 3: I'll couple in just to go off, because I know
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: you talked about Trayvon a little bit. I think they
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: still need to continue to get takeaways. And I know
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: they stress that. They're super, you know, Campanile's biggest thing
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: is getting your eyes where they need to be and
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: focusing in on that. And I think they will. But
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: that's such a huge lift for the team. And that
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: felt like so many points... and this is not like
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 3: teams of old, but they have those game-changing moments where
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: getting a pick, turning it over, forcing it. Those are
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 3: things that change momentum of a game, and they had
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: so much of that last year, whether it was on
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 3: special teams or if it was on defense, getting interceptions
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 3: or forcing fumbles. And I just want to see that continue.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 3: A lot of that's a mindset. A lot of that's
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: your coaching, and I think they're still going to harp
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 3: on that, but hopefully early they can continue it.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: Let me ask you all this real quick because I
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: think Kai brings up a great point about Eric Armstead.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: I do agree with you.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 4: He seems to have showcased a little bit in training
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 4: camp Given where he's at right now with his age and,
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 4: you know, the injuries from last season, like, do you
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 4: guys envision him playing, you know, a full workload?
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: Do you bring him more in on third? So you
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: think third down, Pete, like password.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 5: Situations and Matt Dickerson? I don't even think he starts.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so you think Matt Dickerson and then you just
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 4: rotate Eric Armstead in for third?
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: I think Dickerson starts and they rotate Armstead in because
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: you get that pass rush out of him, and that's
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: what he gives you. And I think they'll be smart
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: with him. He's not a kid anymore, and you mentioned
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: the injury. So I think Dickerson starts. He comes in
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: as the rotation guy. And Dickerson's a good football player.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 5: They love him.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: They love him.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 5: And how he's made himself into a good player. That's
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 5: the amazing thing.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 4: Foyle Aluokin told me personally, he goes, he is the
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 4: most underrated player on this team is Matt Dickerson because
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 4: he does all the dirty work and everything. We talk
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 4: about the run game and everything. He's definitely serviceable in that.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 4: And then when it's third and long, bringing Eric Armstead,
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 4: pin your ears back.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 5: By the way, you mentioned the pass rush.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: If get guys on the ground, all you got to
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: do is every, what I would do if I were
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: Liam Cohen this week, I'd get the Buffalo tape out
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: and say, look, you had two drives to get that
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: guy on the ground and you get them on the ground.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: You got to get them on the ground.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 3: But it's true because that's where it definitely showed. I mean,
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 3: the other points, but that's where it definitely showed. And then,
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: Secondary got exposed on the back end. So they have
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 3: to get the sacks. Hopefully that comes sooner than later.
• 1:26:01
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  Speaker 3: excited for that one. It's going to be our first
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 3: game in the stadium, first regular season game of the year.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 3: So we're excited to get back in there, see real football.
• 1:26:14
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• 1:26:15
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• 1:26:18
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  Speaker 3: to check that out. I think hopefully now, but, um,
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 3: Liam Cohen got to hop on the preseason broadcast. If
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: you guys haven't seen it, he got to call some
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: of the plays and he was calling the game, like
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 3: basically not calling the place for the game, but calling
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 3: it on the broadcast, what was going to happen. And
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 3: he ended up calling that touchdown pass. And then the
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 3: two point conversion as well to DJ Dallas, but pretty
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 3: cool to see there. Pete, did you check out Liam
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 3: on the broadcast at all?
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 5: I did. I did. I thought it was cool. I
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 5: thought they did a really good job with that.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: And he, you know what, there aren't a lot of
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: coaches that would have played along with that, He did
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: a nice job with it.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 5: So, yeah, it was fun. And, again, it was a
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 5: long time he was on with them during that broadcast.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, because they had those long drives, like both
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 3: of them. He was on like 15 minutes.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was fun.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: It was good.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 5: He was good on there.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 3: You got to do something to make the preseason a
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 3: little more interesting. I think that's fair. I'm just going
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 3: to throw that out there.
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  Speaker 3: to us to name the starter. I don't think that's
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 3: a super shock, I suppose, in Atlanta. What's going on
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 3: over there, Pete?
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: That's more of a health thing with Penix. He's not
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: ready to go. And Tuba was bad during the preseason.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: It's almost like the lesser of two evils. It's not good.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: They're another team, by the way, that's going to have
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: a new quarterback next year.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 5: I don't think there's any question about that.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: You know, new coach Stefanski comes in. He's dealing with
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: these guys this year, and I think they'll have a
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: new quarterback next year.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 3: Is that one of those things where Penix is just,
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 3: it's injuries and it's never going to really like pan
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: out or do you think?
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 5: I mean, that's a lot of knee injuries.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 5: That's a lot of knee.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: And he, by the way, he wasn't good before he
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: suffered his latest knee injury last year either.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 5: He was struggling. So I think they know.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: In the back of their heads that they got to
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: navigate through this year and then they'll get the quarterback
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: in the draft next year.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 3: Let's talk a little bit about the season starts on Wednesday.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 3: Of course, a rematch of the super bowl, which we
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: don't always see because they got that Australia game coming
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 3: on Thursday, but yeah, I know you already kind of
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 3: told us you don't think the Patriots are going to
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 3: make the playoffs. What's you think is all falling apart?
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 3: What are your thoughts? Is it going to be an
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 3: OK season? How bad is it going to get?
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: I think it'll be OK because I think they were
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: one of those teams that had a soft schedule last
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: year and took advantage of it. They'll be competitive. They're
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: going to be in a lot of games. They're going
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: to be, you know, that's the variable way.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 5: They're tough. They're feisty. They're going to get after you.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: I worry about some of the things I saw from
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: Drake Bay down the stretch last year.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 5: You know, he struggled when teams played off coverage against him.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: The Bills were the first to do it in the
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: second half of that game when they rallied back and
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: then everybody in the playoffs did it. He won the
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: same prior. So guys have to evolve. He'll have to evolve.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: It might take him a little bit to get going.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: And then the offensive line has got to prove to
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: me that they can protect the quarterback, starting against Seattle,
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 2: who's pretty damn good at getting after the quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: I will say the one thing about the Patriots that
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 4: I do like is that they added A.J.
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  Speaker 1: Brown.
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  Speaker 4: And I get A.J. Brown's not for everybody, right? I
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 4: think he's 30 years old now, going to be 30
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 4: years old pretty soon. But I just think having a
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 4: true one receiver, not to say Stephon Diggs wasn't, but
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 4: I think it is an upgrade from Stephon Diggs last year.
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  Speaker 4: We know he wants the ball, and I think they
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 4: can give him the ball. So I'm expecting big things
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  Speaker 4: from A.J. Brown, and in doing so, probably Drake May
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  Speaker 4: as well.
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  Speaker 3: All right, the Jaguars announced their captains today. So there's
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 3: eight of them. There's two on special teams, Ross Matysik.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 3: And Logan, of course, who's been captain for quite some time.
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  Speaker 3: Foya Lewakin on the defense. Jordan Lewis, Josh Heinz-Allen on offense.
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  Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence, Jacoby Myers, who was new to the team
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  Speaker 3: last year, and Robert Hainsey. Trevor got a vote from
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 3: every single person on offense. which obviously you want from
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 3: your quarterback, but I mean, that's great to see Pete.
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  Speaker 3: What do you think about captains? How are you on cat?
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  Speaker 2: Is this one of those things?
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  Speaker 3: I had a thought and I was.
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  Speaker 2: Like, here's the other thing about two of those captains
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: might not be starting. I knew you were going to
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  Speaker 2: do that.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, it's true. He might not be starting
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  Speaker 5: all the way through.
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  Speaker 3: You were trying to get rid of him already.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 5: No, I'm not trying to get rid of them.
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  Speaker 2: I just think that they want, if they want to
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: get more physical, the other kids more physical. And then
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: the other part of that is Jordan Lewis. If, if,
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: Here's the thing about Jordan Lewis and Jordan Lewis is
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: a good football player. Is he one of the three
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: best corners on the team when he's healthy?
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  Speaker 4: That's up for debate, Pete, but he is the heart.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like, and he is the, he's the, like
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 4: the motivating factor, right?
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  Speaker 2: Like we go back to Austin, we go back to
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  Speaker 2: kind of what.
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  Speaker 5: We say with the receivers.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: If you're going to play, if three corners are on
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 5: the field, sure. Jari and Jones be on the field.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 4: No, I mean, listen, it's up for debate. And Jerrion
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 4: Jones might cement himself in one of those roles. But
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  Speaker 4: my only point is, it's not necessarily the best players
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 4: that become captain. it's the players that can either motivate
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 4: you or that mean the most to the team. And
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 4: I think right now, you know, even if he's not
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 4: going to be necessarily a full-blown starter going forward, like
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 4: I think in terms of just getting people fired up
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 4: and everything and kind of having a dog in him.
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  Speaker 2: Austin, you know, if a guy ain't starting and he's
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: rah-rah and in your ear, you're like, dude, you don't
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  Speaker 2: even start.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 5: You don't even, you're not starting.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 4: But they're also going to have like the in-game, like
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 4: the game captains too, right? So they're going to rotate that.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 3: Which I saw also, the Browns said they weren't doing captains,
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 3: they're only doing game captains.
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  Speaker 5: Which I thought was interesting. I don't mind that. I
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 5: don't mind that.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they do that anyway. They do that too,
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 3: so it's kind of.
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  Speaker 5: Let's just play this out.
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  Speaker 2: What if Monheim took Hainsey's job four weeks in, and
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: then Hainsey's... Switch it up. You're not even playing.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: You're trying to motivate me.
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  Speaker 3: Just rip it off his chest.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 5: Absolutely not.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 4: Hey, Pete, I just want to let you know, man,
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 4: because it got brought to my attention. I tried to
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 4: have a captain in the media, and I actually... I
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 4: was going to nominate you, but the way you're talking
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 4: right now, man, I'm going to have to.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: We'll see what else is available.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: No, don't nominate me because I'm not motivating anybody else.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 5: You ain't trying to rock the scene? I'm a self-motivator.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 5: I don't need somebody telling me what to do. Just
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 5: follow me.
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  Speaker 1: I'll do my stuff.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: If I work my ass off and do everything, I'd
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 2: be the Parker Washington. I'd work my ass off and
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: do everything that needs to be done. If you don't
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: follow me, that's on you, but I'm not going to tell.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 5: You what to do.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: Liam Cohen's going to clip this and play it in
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: the locker room for a week.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 3: I would say it's quiet leadership, but it's not quiet
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  Speaker 3: at all.
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  Speaker 5: No, but I wouldn't.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: You know what?
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: I used to hate rah-rah guys.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 5: Rah-rah guys bother me.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 3: I'm with you too, Pete. I would rather just, you know,
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 3: someone you trust in full. And I think that's why
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 3: Trevor is very much an example of that. He's never
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 3: going to be the rah-rah guy, right? He leads you,
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 3: and they trust in him now, and that's what you want,
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 3: but he's not going to be the one screaming in
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 3: your face.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: When we were in high school, I had a kid
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 2: on my team. He was like the calisthenics guy and
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: the rah-rah guy, and he was the other guard, and
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: I was the guard on the other side, and I
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: graded out higher than.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 5: Him every damn week. You know what? Then it came time.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 5: Think about this, though.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: President Ford came to our school, and he was the
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: one they picked to shake his hand, not me, because
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: he was the rah-rah, or not anybody else, because he
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: was the rah-rah guy.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: Dang, man.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 3: Don't worry. Pete's not holding on to that still.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: I guess not.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 5: President Ford.
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  Speaker 3: That's tough. Yeah.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 5: He came.
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  Speaker 1: Man.
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  Speaker 3: Back in the day.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: And then some.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 3: And then some.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 3: What else we got going on nationally? Oh, the Rams
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 3: have not even considered leaving town until tomorrow. They're going
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 3: to go to Australia and be there for less than
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 3: 24 hours to play a football game.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: It worked against the Jags.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 3: And I get it. The one to London is your prerogative.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 3: That's fine. They beat the crap out of the Jags.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 3: That's fine. This is wild to me. This flight is
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 3: so long. It's almost a day.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 5: But is it longer than their London flight?
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Cause they left from the East coast. Pete, remember?
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 5: That's right. Cause they stayed on the East coast. That's right.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 5: That's right.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 3: And so that like, okay. In theory, like the London
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 3: flight's annoying, but whatever. It's not crazy. Like this is
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 3: crazy to me.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 5: Cause you lose a day.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 3: You lose a full day. They get there Thursday morning,
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 3: their time. And then the game is in Australia, Friday morning,
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 3: like 10 at 10 AM or 10 30 Friday morning
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 3: in Australia is what time it's at.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 2: Did you see that Raheem Morris celebrated his 50th birthday?
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 5: He missed it. But he actually didn't get to celebrate
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 5: it because they lost the day.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess we get to that age, though.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: It's just another day, isn't it?
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 3: Also, to be fair, it's a football birthday. You never
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 3: really get to enjoy it.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 5: How long is the flight?
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 3: 14 hours?
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know what it is from L.A.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 4: I mean, from Jackson. I've flown out there twice now,
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 4: and it was 22 hours for me.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 5: Wait, so you went to Australia?
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I've been to Australia twice. One to fight
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 4: and then one to actually help a fighter out.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: I was in his corner.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: Okay, so you flew from where to where? From Jacksonville
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: to LA?
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 4: No, so it was Jacksonville from Dallas, Dallas to Qatar,
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 4: then Qatar to Australia.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 3: So they're going direct the other way, right?
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 5: How long was a flight from Dallas to Qatar?
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. Honestly, it was like.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 3: He blacked out.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: 17 hours, 18 hours. Yeah, it was a long time.
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 5: I don't know how I'd handle that. I couldn't handle that.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 5: I'd go nuts.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 4: And, like, you need, like, a week to acclimate. Usually
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 4: you need a week to acclimate. And I get the
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 4: whole Rams thing. They're reinventing the wheel. But I don't
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 4: know how you're going to fly, spend that much time
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 4: in a plane, and then say, hey, let's go play
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 4: a football game now.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: But are you really acclimated if you go for a week,
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: like the 49ers have gone?
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 5: I mean, that's tough, too.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so honestly, it took me about three days to
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: actually acclimate. And then I was okay.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 3: I think you just want to not feel like crap, right?
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 3: Because I think anytime you take a huge time change,
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 3: you just don't feel yourself. These guys are so routine
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 3: of habits, so drinking this certain type of electrolyte water,
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 3: so eating this certain thing so they feel their best.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 3: When you get there and your sleep is off, that's
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 3: got to be huge. But apparently not for the Rams.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but once you get on the field, you play football.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you go play football. Then after the game, you're exhausted.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: You're exhausted and miserable and everything else. But that's the
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 2: hard part about it is when you go back and
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 2: get back into the groove of playing his NFL season.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's hard.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 3: Pete, Aaron Donald unretires. What's that going to look like?
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 3: Is it as big of a deal as it sounds?
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 2: It's a great question because... In the history of this league,
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: guys don't come back from two years off. Now, he
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: was truly a dominant, one of the greatest players who
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 2: ever played, but Reggie White took a year off, came
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: back and had four sacks when he was older. If
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 2: you look at the age, guys his age who have
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 2: sack numbers, nobody got them, nobody gets them. It's tough
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 2: to do, but again, are you getting 80% of Aaron
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 2: Donald or are you getting 50% of Aaron Donald? If
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 2: you get 80% of the old guy, you're a hell
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 2: of a player. If you get 50%, then you've got
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 2: a little bit of a worry.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 3: Well, it's going to be interesting to see football's back
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 3: on Wednesday and Thursday. Jaguars are at it on Sunday
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 3: against the Browns. Pete Austin and myself, it's a triple lock.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 3: It's a dub.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: I want those joggers.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 3: We will be back on Victory Monday to discuss it
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 3: all with you. It's been Jaguars Happy Hour.